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Card Shows & Dr. Beckett - Turn Back The Clock With DoubleD Vintage Baseball Cards & Splendid Sports · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  Hey there we are back. I don't know how long it's been
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  Dylan. Maybe a few weeks, maybe it's
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  maybe it's even been a month, but we are back with another
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  turn. Back the clock, Adam from
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  Splendid Sports. This is Dylan Double D Vintage
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  baseball cards. And Dylan, how you doing?
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  Doing fantastic, Adam. Stoked to be here.
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  Yeah, it's probably been a month.
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  Been looking forward to talking to you.
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  It's been hit or miss with both of our schedules.
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  Yeah. So I'm I'm pumped up.
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  Yeah, I mean, and that that we're we're like wild cards here
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  on the sports card clubhouse. Like like when we started this
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  thing, you know, going into it, Mike and Greg, you know, they
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  were well aware that like we're not going to be like regimented
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  and and like they, I mean they they're unbelievable how they
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  produce their man on point and they don't do this full time or
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  anything either like some other creators do.
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  So I give them credit 'cause they they never miss an episode
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  or even if they do, they have a fill in.
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  Whereas we're just kind of, you know, we're just, we're just
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  wild, we're wild cards out here and whenever we can do it, we do
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  it. I think we're going to have this
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  one and then they'll be another one in two weeks.
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  So that will be a set schedule. But after that, you know, we'll
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  see. Hopefully we'll be rocking and
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  rolling every two weeks. But we got a couple things I
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  want to talk about today. The first one being I went to a
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  card show pretty recently. So I have some, I don't know if
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  they call them hot takes or whatever, but I have some
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  opinions on, on experience at card shows and this one in
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  particular that I want to run by you and get your thoughts on.
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  And then at the end, of course, we, you know, we haven't touched
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  on the, the shield bidding Dr. Beckett thing.
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  So I, I think we'll come at a little different angle than
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  maybe some others have and at least I will, but we want to
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  definitely touch on that and talk for a little bit about
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  that. So yeah, let's, let's start with
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  the card show. So I, I don't know when it was,
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  it was a couple few weeks ago. I, I hadn't been to a card show
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  in a long time, but I went to the Shriners card show in
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  Wilmington, MA. And the reason I went is because
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  there was a lot of other Youtubers that were going and
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  you know, like Mike junk wax hero, Shane shoebox legends.
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  I, I got a chance to meet him, which was awesome.
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  So like, that was what really brought me to the card show and
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  that it was just awesome meeting those guys and, and hanging out
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  for a little bit. But you know, what I, what I
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  wanted to kind of really talk about on that is Mike mentioned
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  this a little bit and it was funny cuz when he said it, I, it
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  was already in my head. Like at the card show.
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  I, I only got 1 card at the whole card show and it was a
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  card that I had already bought and the, the dealer was just
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  bringing it to the show. So I really didn't buy anything
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  at the show the whole time. I, you know, I walked around, I
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  tried, but for me, I think I don't really have a lot of cards
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  that I want to buy at this point that you're going to see at a
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  card show. You know what I'm I'm looking
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  for. I was looking for like the rare
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  Pedro Martinez card in the in the, in the boxes.
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  And so I didn't find anything like that or maybe a Larry Bird
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  card I hadn't had before. But you know, and the vintage
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  cards kind of like we got, you know, they this they had some
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  awesome cards there, but they just didn't have the I appeal I
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  was looking for. Or maybe I already had them.
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  I think I said to to Shane as we were walking around.
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  I was like, you know, if I came to the show like 3 years ago,
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  I'd be going crazy. I'd be buying everything.
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  But I'd had bought so many cards over the last few years that
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  pretty much everything I saw either already had or it didn't
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  like meet what I was looking for, you know?
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  So I guess I'm pretty particular too with this type of thing.
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  So for me, at least I the card show, going to a card show is
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  just going to all all be about the social aspect of it meeting
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  up with if it's an opportunity to meet with other people.
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  But I don't know what what would be like if you were if you could
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  go to another card show. I know you don't have many in
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  your area, but if like we would you be interested in doing that
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  at this point? You think you would buy a lot
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  like you did at that national that we both went to in 2023.
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  You got a a decent amount there. Would it be different now you
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  think? Or what do you?
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  What do you? Yeah, it would be different, but
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  I, I, for one, 'cause I don't have card shows, right?
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  I They're like walking into Toys-R-Us when you're a kid and
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  you go through the sliding doors.
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  And the long? Hallway and then Toys-R-Us opens
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  up. It's like it's a magical feeling
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  and I don't think that's ever going to go.
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  Away. Even if I had a card show, you
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  know, across the street every single weekend and there's guys
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  talking about like small, small shows or 200 tables.
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  I'm like 200 tables. I would die for 200 tables.
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  I got 1. Table at this at our local
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  little show once a month here. And he's got like, there's six,
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  there's nothing. There's nothing.
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  I know exactly what card every guy has.
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  I for one. For that feeling alone that
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  would get me to every single card show and knowing that there
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  could be one card there, that really strikes me.
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  But I do remember Last National when I went I, it's a running
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  joke. Blue Rock always talks about it.
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  I came back to the house and I go, man.
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  There were two centered baseball cards, tops baseball cards at
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  the entire national and I and I bought.
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  Both of them. So what you're saying about
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  being picky and not, you know, not finding the right copies of
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  certain cards and trying to find a card in general, it's getting
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  extremely difficult. And it, and it is funny because
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  the first national I went to, I came home and I probably had 15
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  cards. And so it wasn't that difficult
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  and I was on the center and kick, but I wasn't that strict.
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  I wasn't that focused. And I was when I just sold off
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  all my sevens, like millions of cards.
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  So I had money to play with, had cards I could pick up.
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  Fast forward, you know, on YouTube, three years.
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  Collecting with friends. Really focusing on my collecting
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  goals and my certain things more.
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  Man, I would struggle big time to find a card that suits my eye
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  and suits my price and suits. All the things that I need.
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  At a card show. But with that said, I can't ever
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  see myself getting sick of going and even.
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  If I was going by myself and I didn't even have friends to hang
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  out with, when I'm at a card show, I really don't talk to
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  anybody. I'm kind of like Mike Junk Wax
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  Hero. Like I'm a solo session guy
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  except for a few guys that like Cart Ken, Candy Man Ken, Ken's
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  cardboard, me and him. Really, we we hit it off when we
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  walk around the shows together. You it's kind of like find, you
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  know, finding your wife and being able to do things with
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  her. Finding the right.
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  Person you do certain things together with but as if if Ken
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  wasn't there. You know, I just go on my own.
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  And wander the floor for six hours by myself.
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  I don't really want to be. I mean, it's cool to be with
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  someone. But it's really hard to because
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  you're just not into the same things and you're like trying to
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  find different things. I, I think like a show that
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  everybody talks about Strongsville, knowing that
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  everyone is around you and you're also by yourself.
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  You can just yell at someone across the room.
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  To me that sounds like best of all worlds.
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  I get to look mostly. Likely I'll find a card I want.
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  All my friends are within earshot and eye vision of me.
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  Kind of just hits all the things and when.
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  You were at that show and I heard.
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  You know I know our buddy Shane. Was there I I've been trying to
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  get Shane to go to the national, you know every.
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  Year I was going. That's a guy I.
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  Really really want to meet like if.
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  More than anyone in the entire hobby that I have not met, I
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  want to meet Shane face to face. So when you guys got a.
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  Seat when you hung out with. Them, or at least saw him.
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  I was so jealous. I was like, oh, if I could just
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  you guys are always whining about, you know, there's so card
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  shows over here, everyone's talking.
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  I'm like you guys have no. Idea I am literally on an
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  island, you know, like. Everyone I've met from from
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  YouTube, Shane was cooler than even you'd think he would be.
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  You know, he's like, everyone lives up to, you know, I've
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  never been like, oh man, they're, they're way different
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  in person or whatever. So, yeah, it was great hanging
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  out with, I mean, and it was, you know, there's a whole list
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  of people that I I'm sure everyone by now has seen who was
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  there and you know, Dan, Dan's vintage baseball PC and Dom's
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  David's sports cars and Jake whack whacks pack wisdom.
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  I mean, there was just a bunch of people there and it was great
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  to meet most of them for the first time.
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  Really. So it was, it was a good
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  experience and I'm glad I went and I'll, I'll go again.
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  You know, I just, I guess my, I was a little like going in.
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  I was like, all right, I brought some cards like I brought, I
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  went through my collection and I picked out.
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  It was about 5 pretty valuable cards that I, I was like, I'm
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  going to either sell these or I'm going to bring them to the
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  show and maybe I'll like work a deal with a dealer.
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  I'll try to sell it to a dealer or a trade or something like
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  that. So I brought them with me.
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  I have my backpack and everything.
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  And then when I get there, I don't know if I'm lazy or what,
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  or I just, I, I get like, I'm just not, I'm not used to it,
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  right? Like I, it's weird.
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  I don't go to any. So like, and it was kind of
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  crowded. So like, you know, there's not a
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  lot of room to maneuver sometimes And like you're look,
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  trying to look through something and someone's next to you, you
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  know, and you know, but the point is like, I didn't end up
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  doing any of that. Guess what I did?
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  I was like, at the end, I was like, well, I still got these
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  cards. So I did, I was, I didn't have
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  the energy or the whatever to try to make a deal with any of
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  these dealers. So I I just did.
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  You sell you a repacker. No, I did a mystery pack.
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  No, what I did is I went to four sharp corners and I consigned
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  them. I just went right.
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  Yeah, I was like whatever I was 1 was a a Yaz rookie PSA 7/19/60
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  Yaz Rook. Another one was a Bill Walton
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  rookie PSA 8. So it was like, you know, higher
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  grade stuff that, you know, I'll, I'm, I'm thinking probably
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  at least get like 4 grand for everything.
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  I can sign that. Actually, they're up for auction
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  now and I won't be bidding on any of my own cards just so
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  everyone knows. But I was like, I, I guess I'm
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  just lazy because I was like, you know what, instead of trying
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  to like work all these deals or whatever, I was like, I didn't
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  see anything I really wanted to buy.
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  So I was like, here, we just can sign these.
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  And it, it was good. So it got me thinking like for
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  someone like me, I see other, I mean, I'll go to these card
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  shows just to to meet up with guys, you know, the social
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  aspect. Even if I don't buy anything,
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  it's worth it for me. But if I'm going to go to a card
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  show, someone like me, I am looking more and I don't know if
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  this could go out to any of the the card show promoters or
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  anything like that, but I'd be very interested.
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  Like I'm looking to like consign cards to like if PSA can get at
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  some of these shows. Like I would love to take some
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  of these older slab PSA cards or even some SGC ones and try to
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  cross them over or submit them 'cause like I don't wanna send
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  any of these cards in the mail right now with everything I'm
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  hearing, right? So like I have a big interest if
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  I can go to some of these shows and actually like instead of
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  even even buying a lot of stuff, using it to like grade cards or
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  you know, change, upgrade the slab or whatever to the newer
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  slab from some of these older ones crying trying to crossover
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  consign like that. That's the type of thing that
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  where I'm at with my collection, I'm I'm more in that mode where
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  instead of like even acquiring new stuff, I'm trying to like, I
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  guess optimize what I have already.
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  So I see a lot of value in that at going to card shows because
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  the more I do it, like I again, I, I, I, I would rather do that
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  stuff in person right now if I can.
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  I, I don't really want to ship valuable cards to PSA or to
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  really anything right now. I just, I've kind of lost
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  confidence in that. Nothing's ever happened to me.
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  But I've seen so much with like lost packages and, and all the
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  stuff that I see a lot of value if like PSA or some of these
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  companies can get more regional, like, you know, have like a
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  branch almost in some of these bigger cities where you could do
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  that in person. I think that would, that would
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  be pretty valuable. That'd be something that I'd I'd
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  be interested in doing so. No, I love it and and the whole
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  thing like bringing cards to trade in a card show.
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  Dude, the first national I went to, I had a whole box of cards
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  and it it's embarrassing. I I'm definitely not a guy.
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  Who, you know, can go around and film card shows like, dude, I'm
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  not taking my camera out. I'm not, I'd be, I'd be sweaty
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  and I'd be so embarrassed. And so I feel so weird about it.
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  And that goes for like bringing a box of cards and going to a
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  dealer and handing your box of cards and be like, do you want
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  any of my baseball cards? Can you trade?
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  You know, dude, So I did that at the First National, man, I'm
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  like, I'm. Just going to do it.
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  I flew. Across the country I went to
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  every single table at that national and only one guy.
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  Was willing to trade with me for.
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  The cards that I had and he and that was when I got the 52 bow
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  Mickey Mouse, the greatest trade, greatest trade of my
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  whole life value for value. I was I was trading leaders
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  cards a whole stack of low cards for one big card and I got full
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  comps like all the way equal. It was, it blew my mind, but I
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  literally wasted 8 hours just taking these cards that every
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  single dealer when for me like Greg text me like a month ago or
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  something because I just sold off 100 cards and he's like why
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  don't you just sell them on your channel?
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  And I'm going dude, the. Last thing I ever want to do is
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  sell them on my channel and have to e-mail someone back and forth
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  non-stop to get one card when I can take them all, put them,
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  give them to a consignor, pay whatever fee it is going to be.
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  I sent them all to Greg Morris and some to Fanatics and I I
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  don't have to do anything. I did a pack all them up 1.
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  Time and like you said, if you had a card show, you can go over
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  and just drop them off straight to the people.
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  It it's worth the money. But with that said, I have
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  decided I'm going to be selling some cards on my channel.
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  Which is funny because I I am that's a for a future thing, but
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  I have a stack. Going.
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  I'm going to do. That, but I don't, it's not
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  going to be something that I enjoy like emailing people back.
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  So I have to figure out a, a solution, a way to do it.
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  And yeah, card show to bring in a box of cards and hand them to
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  a consignor. That would be if, man, I would
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  do that all the time. It was really easy because, you
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  know, I've used, I've used four shop cards before.
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  I, I was always like kind of like, I don't know, the
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  consignment thing, like I was like, I could just do it myself,
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  right? Like I just put it up on my own
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  eBay and, and then I've kind, I was like, yeah, if I'm selling,
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  like if it's just one car, that's one thing 'cause it's
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  about the same amount of work really, you know, to, to just
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  ship a car. But if you're selling like like
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  even 5 like this, it's way easier to just put them all in
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  the one box and send them to the and they'll do everything else.
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  And let alone if it's a bunch of cards.
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  So, and it's the same with like again, these consigners, they
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  sell them on eBay and it's like lower percentage than you'd pay
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  selling them yourself on eBay. So it really makes a lot of
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  sense to do that. And again, if I can do that in
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  person, I'm all for it 'cause like, yeah, I just don't wanna,
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  I'm not cool with shipping stuff right now unless, unless I have
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  to. So, yeah, if I could do, if I
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  could do these like grading things and, and, and selling
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  cards in person, handing them off that, that for me, that's
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  that's worth the drive up right there to a card show and the
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  price of admission, 15 bucks or whatever it was to get in the
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  car, even if I don't buy anything.
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  But I just do that. And then also obviously if if
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  there's any type of like meet up or anything, it's it's cool,
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  it's fun and it was a good card show.
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  I mean, it was very crowded and it was, it was funny because the
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  one I was walking around and like, to your point, I have a
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  hard time multitasking. So like, if I'm trying to look
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  at cards, I have a hard time focusing on like having a
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  conversation with someone. But I, we're just, Shane and I
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  were walking around and like looking through tables and
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  really just wasn't finding anything.
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  And then I'm just looking down like I don't even know whose
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  table. And then I'm looking like, oh,
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  look at, oh, man, I'm like, look at this.
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  Like it was a Larry Bird card, like a patch card that I, I knew
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  right away. Like, oh, I like that.
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  Like that would be something. And then I look up, I'm like how
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  much? How much for this Larry Bird
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  card? And I look up and it's on the
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  guys like those aren't for sale. It was Heritage Auctions and
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  he's like those. Are in our.
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  Yeah, like those are going to be in our blah blah blah elite show
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  kit, whatever it is. I'm like, oh, OK.
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  I was like, sorry, I didn't. I thought you were just a deal.
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  So like I was just in the zone. But then like, so it was like
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  the only cards I really would have bought at that show were
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  ones I can't buy, you know? So it was just, and that's just
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  me, like just where I'm at and how I collect now.
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  I'm not going for a big collection.
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  I'm very specific. So that's, that was just my my
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  thoughts on it. And then when I heard Mike say
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  that too, you know, Mike was on his channel saying he's very
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  specific on how he collects now. So card shows are really not I I
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  don't know how he put it, but not his thing or whatever.
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  But to his point, it's all worth it when you get to hang out with
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  some guys for a few hours. And I wish I could have, I, I
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  wish I could have gone to the, to the meet up after I, I
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  stopped by for like a minute, but I had to go.
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  But yeah, things like that make it really, really cool, really
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  fun. So I, I, I'll try to do like
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  that. If I could do that even once a
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  year, like locally at a meet up like that, that, that, that's
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  something that I put a lot of value on.
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  So it was a good experience. And I think that's all I have to
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  say about the. Card did you get?
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  Did you you say you got one card?
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  Yeah, you did. It was a Tom Brady.
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  Tom Brady 2001 gold out of 100, he's only got 3 cards.
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  Think about this right? So Tom Brady, I know you're not
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  a football guy, but you appreciate that's what I've been
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  trying to get across. Like a lot of when I talk Tom
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  Brady on YouTube, you know no one.
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  I don't get a lot of views on those and, and it's because you
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  know, it's mostly baseball on YouTube and people hate Tom
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  Brady 'cause he beat their ass for 20 years.
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  So I get it. But what, what my point is like
• 18:21
  when I talk about my Tom Brady collecting, I hope other people
• 18:25
  can connect to it, not because of Tom Brady, but because of
• 18:28
  like the, the collecting ideas that I'm talking about.
• 18:31
  And then what I, what I'm like going after and runs and so
• 18:34
  forth. So hopefully it can be applied
• 18:36
  to any player and, and relate to, But think about this Tom
• 18:40
  Brady the, the, the GOAT of football.
• 18:43
  So I think it would be like Otani or Messi or like Michael
• 18:50
  Jordan, LeBron James, these guys, if that's a good one.
• 18:54
  LeBron James, his rookie year was 2003.
• 18:57
  In 2004, I don't know the number, but his second year, I'm
• 19:01
  guessing he probably had like hundreds of or not hundreds, but
• 19:06
  maybe 50 different brands of cards that second year.
• 19:09
  Like, and then probably like thousands of different cards in
• 19:11
  his second year. Tom Brady had in his second year
• 19:15
  had three cards. That was 3 brands that put out a
• 19:18
  card of his because he was not expected to be, He was expected
• 19:22
  to be a career backup or whatever.
• 19:23
  So the the card companies didn't make any cards in his in it
• 19:27
  before he won that Super Bowl other than his rookie year.
• 19:30
  But his second year's got 3 cards.
• 19:31
  So I was able to get playoff. It's playoff national treasures.
• 19:36
  It's real popular now national treasures.
• 19:38
  But this was like the playoff national treasures, which I
• 19:41
  think became what it, you know, the, the big brand for Panini,
• 19:45
  but that's a gold out of 100. And I ended up buying it online
• 19:49
  a few weeks before that. And I, and I picked it up in
• 19:51
  person cause again, the dealer I bought it from Kevin the
• 19:54
  captain, he, he was like, you know, I don't really like
• 19:56
  shipping these type of cards anymore, even locally.
• 19:59
  So I was like, well, I'll just pick it up at, at the Shriner
• 20:02
  show. So it worked out well.
• 20:03
  But yeah, it's pretty, pretty interesting that a a player of
• 20:07
  of Brady's magnitude in their second year would only have 3
• 20:10
  total cards. That's pretty crazy when you
• 20:12
  think about it. Be like dude that in 2018 having
• 20:15
  only three cards. Dude, that's mine.
• 20:18
  Mind boggling. And and Adam, I, I, I get
• 20:21
  inspired by you all the time. I don't.
• 20:23
  I get inspired by Chris Hoge. I can inspire.
• 20:27
  I could name hundreds of guys who do not collect how I collect
• 20:31
  or what I collect, but it's those thoughts, it's those
• 20:34
  ideas, it's the concepts, it's how they think about collecting
• 20:37
  itself. We know we, you know, our buddy
• 20:40
  Dave, Iowa Dave, he listens to that podcast about collecting in
• 20:45
  it all different collecting things, not even baseball stuff.
• 20:49
  I haven't tried that podcast out, but I imagine I would love
• 20:53
  it because it's it's really. It.
• 20:55
  Gives it just a different perspective on how, like you
• 20:58
  say, I could find another way to collect a certain guy.
• 21:01
  And copy how you're doing, but with Brady.
• 21:03
  Getting inspired me like wow, he did it with that.
• 21:05
  I'm going to try and collect. Every rookie of this player you
• 21:09
  know Ichiro like. It's it's.
• 21:11
  Possible. So yeah, I, I love it, man.
• 21:15
  I and for me, it's more about. The the coolest thing is like
• 21:19
  it's almost less about the player and more about like the
• 21:23
  the story of the hobby at the time and the brands and, and,
• 21:27
  and for me, it's more of that like I'm more interested in that
• 21:31
  than even like Brady so much. It's just you get so deep into
• 21:35
  it where you start getting more into like, you know, the Pacific
• 21:38
  cards. And again, he only had three
• 21:40
  cards in this year. So it's kind of almost in a
• 21:44
  certain way that the the player becomes like secondary to what
• 21:48
  you're going after with like how the cards are in the hobby at
• 21:52
  that point in time. And I find that way more
• 21:54
  interesting than, you know, Michael Jordan was awesome and
• 21:57
  and Kobe Bryant, it was awesome. I like hearing more about like,
• 22:01
  yeah, in their second year they had three cards total because I
• 22:04
  like those type of stories. Now I'm kind of deep diving on a
• 22:06
  lot of the stuff with the going back in time.
• 22:08
  So it's pretty, it's pretty fun. Dude, I love that Adam.
• 22:11
  So remember when we first started doing this three-year, 3
• 22:15
  plus years ago or whenever that? Was I just liked I I never
• 22:19
  thought I would dive into knowing about the cards and I
• 22:23
  was always like, whatever, you know, that's somebody else's
• 22:25
  thing. Like how hard I wasn't
• 22:27
  collecting modern then either but like so in my take.
• 22:30
  Was like the vintage guys. Like how?
• 22:32
  Did this come in the pack? I never really cared.
• 22:35
  I was like whatever, I just want the card.
• 22:37
  I love the card. It was about the card and even
• 22:41
  not even about the sport either. But now like collecting this
• 22:45
  modern stuff and the Japanese collection that I'm creating, I
• 22:49
  am really digging it. Like you're talking about
• 22:52
  learning about the card itself. And like me and my Mickey Mantle
• 22:55
  card number 7 collection, it was like it started out because I
• 23:00
  wanted to collect the Mickey Mantle because I've been selling
• 23:03
  them my whole life. And then you got me thinking
• 23:06
  about the rare ones that turned into learning about the rarity
• 23:09
  of the card. That turned into learning about
• 23:11
  card number 7, which I didn't even know, wasn't even a reason
• 23:15
  for me to collect Mantle. I wasn't even part of it.
• 23:18
  And then it just snowballs. And now I'm really every card I
• 23:22
  get. That's why I love making my own
• 23:24
  labels too, for my cards. I put so much information on
• 23:28
  there that it tells me every time I pick up that card, I
• 23:32
  learn about that card. Again and it gets clicked into
• 23:35
  my. Brain.
• 23:35
  Anyone that sees my collection can pick up any one of my cards
• 23:39
  that that's in one of my slabs and know exactly how rare it is,
• 23:42
  where it came from, a significance of this or that,
• 23:46
  all kinds of cool stuff. I never.
• 23:48
  Thought I'd be into that so I'm. With you man, like my mic trout
• 23:51
  collection, it's like more about the like getting my Bowman
• 23:55
  Chrome run. And finding, you know, the 2000.
• 23:58
  17 of his in. In the gold, that's more.
• 24:01
  Important than getting a mic trout.
• 24:03
  I want the gold. I want this to fit here.
• 24:06
  It's it's dude, you said it so well.
• 24:09
  It's exactly, exactly what I love.
• 24:12
  So it is becoming less about I mean.
• 24:15
  I still love the players, you know, we still love the players.
• 24:18
  Obviously. It's how it starts.
• 24:20
  You know it. Either starts with loving of
• 24:23
  collecting, loving of cards, or love of the game.
• 24:27
  Or love of the players, you know.
• 24:30
  Oh yeah. Love it.
• 24:31
  Love it, Adam. All right, so we in the last few
• 24:34
  minutes here this episode, I kind of I wanted to talk to you
• 24:38
  about. So I think we're I sent a text
• 24:42
  to you kind of joking, like if you if you took a break from
• 24:47
  watching hobby content stuff or like following it on social
• 24:51
  media for let's say a few weeks, like a few weeks ago, and then
• 24:55
  you you just started a few days back.
• 24:57
  You're catching up on things when you left doctor Beckett,
• 25:01
  you know, on the hobby Mount Rushmore, right, Like I never
• 25:05
  heard a bad word said about him and you and I have compliment
• 25:07
  him all those so many times, right.
• 25:10
  And then you come in and then like all these videos are like,
• 25:13
  you know, lump and Doctor Beckett in with with shill
• 25:16
  bidders. And, and I mean, there was some
• 25:18
  pretty, I've heard some pretty tough things said about Doctor
• 25:22
  Beckett on YouTube and and and social media and so forth.
• 25:27
  I think a lot of the people that said a lot of these things
• 25:30
  probably didn't, it didn't seem like they even listened to the
• 25:33
  episode. It was kind of like they heard
• 25:34
  it second hand. And so for me, I was, I was
• 25:39
  pretty shocked at, although I shouldn't have been because
• 25:41
  that's kind of my point with this is I was pretty shocked at
• 25:45
  not Doctor Beckett's episode, but I was more shocked at the
• 25:49
  response at first from people to that episode, 'cause I listen to
• 25:53
  it and I, I at first, you know, I, I, I was a little, yeah, I
• 25:57
  had a few questions so forth. But if you actually listen to
• 26:00
  the first episode and Doctor Beckett has mentioned this
• 26:03
  before in a scenario, he was talking about a scenario where
• 26:06
  he didn't she'll bid, but he he was raising a hypothetical that,
• 26:11
  you know, it was a tough situation where it was mislisted
• 26:13
  and it was for a friend. And so he was just kind of
• 26:16
  posing different, you know, circumstances, right?
• 26:21
  But and then next thing you know, people are calling him a
• 26:24
  shell bitter and and lumping him in with people who actually did
• 26:26
  shell bit and saying all these other things.
• 26:30
  And you know, I don't really know Doctor Beckett very well.
• 26:33
  We've been on a few episodes together.
• 26:36
  I met him in person. He was very nice that time I met
• 26:39
  him, he signed my back. But even aside from that, it was
• 26:42
  just like, it's crazy how I personally think that social
• 26:47
  media and, and people's attention spans, I think, I
• 26:51
  think society's really going downhill in many ways with, with
• 26:55
  this stuff. It's, it's crazy how people pile
• 26:57
  on people now. Like, I mean, back in the day,
• 26:59
  like I, I, I used to think like before social media, before even
• 27:03
  the Internet, right? Like people would still like,
• 27:06
  you know, gossip and talk trash about people and stuff.
• 27:08
  But now you got people that literally just like in comments
• 27:11
  are saying things they would never ever say to someone's
• 27:15
  face, right? But they're just saying these
• 27:17
  crazy things that a lot of them aren't even true.
• 27:19
  So I just been thinking a lot about that.
• 27:21
  Like, I like doing this. Like, come on out here talking.
• 27:24
  And I, you know, I say stupid things too now and then.
• 27:26
  But it's just, it was kind of wild for me to just be like, in
• 27:31
  a matter of like, you know, Doctor Beckett did think about
• 27:35
  all he did in the hobby for decades, decades and decades.
• 27:38
  And then he had one episode and all of a sudden now people are
• 27:40
  like, oh, it's it's over for Doctor Beckett and all this
• 27:43
  stuff. It was pretty crazy to think
• 27:45
  like, if that can happen to Doctor Beckett, we're all
• 27:48
  screwed, man. You know, like no one's got any
• 27:50
  hope. And I'm doing it.
• 27:52
  If like someone with that much respect and credibility and
• 27:55
  built up capital in this hobby can go from in, in a matter of
• 27:59
  literally like one day can go from where he was to what people
• 28:03
  are talking about now. And I think that will subside.
• 28:06
  But it was just nuts to me really to see like, and it's
• 28:09
  just that it's a sign of where we are with the politics and
• 28:13
  society and everything. And it's, it's kind of sad in a
• 28:16
  way. And it makes me want to go away
• 28:19
  from from social media and a lot of this stuff, honestly.
• 28:22
  But that's, that's just me. I don't know.
• 28:24
  What do you think? All right, so you know, I want
• 28:27
  to give my little take on that whole thing too.
• 28:31
  I I heard that the first episode first I was pretty baffled why
• 28:35
  he was on had P Ryan on there and then as as the episode went
• 28:39
  on what it it wasn't? The thing that shocked me wasn't
• 28:44
  that Beckett told that story about selling cards for his
• 28:48
  friend and all that. I had heard that before he said
• 28:51
  that years ago and I knew that I knew this story.
• 28:53
  I think he said it like 4 times. At least I've heard him say it
• 28:56
  A. Lot that wasn't my issue.
• 29:00
  My issue was that he wasn't. He made it sound like it was
• 29:05
  just OK for the things that P Ryan did, whether it's a mistake
• 29:10
  or not. I I thought the whole.
• 29:12
  Episode was not. He didn't come across well in my
• 29:16
  opinion, the way he talked. It was a.
• 29:18
  Lot of lot of people saying how smart they were and I'll combine
• 29:22
  all three episodes of my brain right now because they all all
• 29:24
  three episodes that Doctor Beckett put out to me, they just
• 29:29
  made just he just took the shovel and dug himself deeper
• 29:32
  and deeper in the hole. And then telling us how smart he
• 29:36
  is. And I called him God once, you
• 29:38
  know, on an episode. Of course I'm being ridiculous,
• 29:40
  right? I'm joking when I say that
• 29:42
  stuff. But this is serious.
• 29:44
  And I I do not think Doctor Beckett is a bad.
• 29:48
  Human. Being I do not think that he's
• 29:51
  out there she'll beating, I don't think that he needs to
• 29:56
  does not. Deserve to go to.
• 29:57
  Jail. In fact, he's not off my totem
• 30:00
  pole of a respected human. I would, you know, I'll still
• 30:05
  shake his hand. I'll still say hi to him, you
• 30:09
  know, did he get knocked off where he was in my brain?
• 30:13
  I'm more of a disappointment. And I'll still listen to his
• 30:17
  podcast if he continues on, which I hope he does, and still
• 30:20
  listen to his opinions. And I'll take them for what they
• 30:24
  are and what they are, just like ours, their opinions and I.
• 30:28
  And I respect when he speaks. I've always listened and I.
• 30:31
  I think he's wise to the hobby. Now I'm not saying he what he
• 30:35
  did was right. I think she'll bidding is
• 30:39
  ridiculous. Well.
• 30:40
  Hold on, let me just let me just get.
• 30:43
  It when you said he did P Ryan was the one who shelled doctor
• 30:47
  Becker did not shell bid like that that that's what I agree
• 30:51
  like and I think doctor Becker would even say like you know
• 30:53
  that was not a great episode for me.
• 30:55
  I didn't. Things came off that's.
• 30:56
  What he should have said, that's what.
• 30:58
  He should have. I've heard him say that already.
• 31:01
  Yeah. I guess he he did kind of, yeah.
• 31:03
  And he? Believe me, he doesn't need I'm
• 31:05
  not defending anything, but what I'm saying is it was just crazy
• 31:08
  that to me it was like, you see this a lot, right?
• 31:11
  Like people this degrees to things like there's a difference
• 31:13
  between shell actually shell bidding and then giving an
• 31:17
  opinion on shill bidding is what?
• 31:19
  And you might say that's a terrible opinion totally just
• 31:21
  but like go to jail. What are you taught for what?
• 31:25
  Like what are they people talking about?
• 31:26
  Like I understand if you're a shill bidder, yes, that I guess
• 31:29
  that could be illegal, but like sharing opinions in like
• 31:32
  hypotheticals, That's those are two completely different things.
• 31:35
  Yet at the end of it, people were lumping them both in
• 31:38
  together and for me that was crazy.
• 31:40
  And you see that with other things too, like, you know,
• 31:44
  without going into other situations in life.
• 31:47
  But there, there a lot of times it's like, you know, false
• 31:50
  equivalency out there right now. And that's what I was seeing is
• 31:53
  like, you know, you totally disagree.
• 31:56
  Like it's like, for example, you could I could say, you know, in
• 32:00
  some I think marijuana is not bad.
• 32:04
  I don't think it's a bad thing, right?
• 32:06
  But in some states it's illegal. So if I go to Texas where it's
• 32:09
  illegal and I say, I think smoking marijuana is, is not,
• 32:13
  not a bad thing, people could say, oh, that am I going to jail
• 32:17
  because I, I, because it's a, it's against the law in Texas
• 32:19
  that I shared an opinion. Whereas if you did smoke
• 32:23
  marijuana in Texas, that's breaking the law, you know, but
• 32:28
  if I say it shouldn't, it should be legal or I think that's a bad
• 32:31
  law. That's a completely different
• 32:32
  thing. You don't go to jail for that.
• 32:33
  So that that for me, that was like the crazy part.
• 32:36
  Yeah, I hear you there. But you know.
• 32:38
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, the world, we've all,
• 32:40
  what do we love? What does everyone love more
• 32:42
  than anything? A guy who's at the very top
• 32:45
  making a mistake and falling all the way to the bottom because
• 32:48
  everybody who didn't like that person and to begin with is hoot
• 32:51
  and holler and and saying I never liked.
• 32:54
  Him. I never cared for him.
• 32:56
  I always knew there was something wrong.
• 32:59
  And I just, that's just how it is.
• 33:01
  It sucks. It is what it is.
• 33:03
  Like one of us could say something Dumber and no one has
• 33:06
  this on this pedestal. Exactly.
• 33:07
  We're at the bottom, so it doesn't matter, right?
• 33:09
  Only our closest friends. You know, would could think of
• 33:13
  us differently, right? It is so it's tough, but let me
• 33:17
  I I'm going to make a I'm going. To make a an opinion here about
• 33:21
  shell being and how I think things are going so far on the
• 33:24
  other. End of the spectrum which?
• 33:25
  Just like dude, all right, so Dan, what's Dan's page is?
• 33:34
  Dan Dan's vintage baseball PC. Dan's vintage baseball PC.
• 33:39
  Yeah, the worst. The guy.
• 33:40
  By the way, meta, Yeah, you. Know great guy love love Dan
• 33:44
  listen listen to a podcast with him and Dave the day it was so
• 33:46
  good so yeah so. He he recently they were doing
• 33:52
  the live auctions and our friend Matt the card story was selling
• 33:56
  cards, consigning cards at CIA auctions and Dan would not bid
• 34:03
  on those cards because they are his friends cards.
• 34:06
  I am I that is not show bidding now what the only way he wasn't
• 34:12
  offered those cards from Matt. He wasn't Matt didn't call him
• 34:16
  up and say, Hey, you want to buy these cards.
• 34:18
  And not even that, but even even if even if Matt called him and
• 34:23
  said, hey, you want to buy these cards, This is the price.
• 34:26
  And and you know, Dan's like now I'll pass, let him go at auction
• 34:32
  and maybe I'll be able to swoop in and get it cheaper.
• 34:34
  Maybe he doesn't come up with an I don't see anything on.
• 34:37
  If you want the card of your friends, please, by all means
• 34:41
  bid it, buy it. That's the whole point, right?
• 34:44
  Other where would our cards go if they don't go to our other
• 34:47
  friends? If I can sign my cards to to
• 34:50
  CIAI hope they do a little thing.
• 34:52
  Hey, these are these are Dylan's cards.
• 34:55
  Buy them. It doesn't.
• 34:57
  That is not a she'll be. If you go on Instagram right
• 35:00
  now, pretty much half the people I follow, their stories are just
• 35:04
  them sharing links to their auctions.
• 35:07
  So it's, it's that's if you. Yeah, that's not chill.
• 35:10
  Bidding right? Yeah, there's nothing wrong with
• 35:12
  that. Like so it's the same thing but
• 35:14
  chill bidding. We we know what it is, it's bad.
• 35:16
  We're not saying it's. Don't do it.
• 35:18
  It's not good to do like so that that's there's no just
• 35:21
  everyone's agreeing agreeing on that.
• 35:22
  I even heard doctor Beckett say that he was on today.
• 35:25
  So I don't I don't, I think it's, you know, a little over
• 35:29
  the whole I think Doctor Beckett had a bad episode there.
• 35:33
  And but I mean, that was kind of he deserves our.
• 35:37
  Forgiveness. And if you don't believe in
• 35:40
  forgiveness, just your acceptance, your acceptance of
• 35:43
  of just. Him getting lost in his own
• 35:45
  words. I mean dude, there's things that
• 35:49
  he said that I thought were straight up dumb.
• 35:52
  And and it and it it. Made him sound arrogant and
• 35:55
  cocky. But it doesn't make him a bad.
• 35:58
  Human being and I, I forgive him, I don't think.
• 36:01
  He did it, I don't. Think he She'll bid.
• 36:03
  I know he didn't. She'll bid.
• 36:04
  And I don't think that he's been out there corrupting us this
• 36:08
  whole time with the Beckett. And all the Beckett prices were
• 36:11
  off. No way.
• 36:12
  If anyone this guy was didn't. Even collect cards during the
• 36:15
  whole period and he made it clear I I did.
• 36:19
  No one else in this industry stops collecting cards if they
• 36:21
  work. For a car company and I don't
• 36:23
  expect them. To I don't want them to because
• 36:26
  I want them to understand what's going on in the hobby.
• 36:27
  So, and I think a lot of it was like.
• 36:30
  Cuz you know, I don't know how many of the of the people that
• 36:32
  were sounding off. I mean, I've listened to a lot
• 36:36
  of his since for probably four years I've listened to his
• 36:39
  podcast, not every single one, but a lot of them.
• 36:42
  And so you feel like if you listen to someone that much, you
• 36:47
  feel like you get a good feel for the person, right?
• 36:49
  Like, so for me, it was just crazy to be like, man, the the
• 36:53
  heat he's getting now for that. If, if, if, if people think he's
• 37:00
  the problem in the hobby, then we then we're all then we're
• 37:04
  all. Prudent.
• 37:05
  We're all prudent. That's if that's what you're
• 37:07
  going after. Doctor Beckett.
• 37:08
  I mean, there's plenty of other fish to fry, in my opinion, if
• 37:11
  if that's what you're trying to do.
• 37:13
  But yeah, if if so, he never every episode I've ever listened
• 37:17
  to him, he was like he came across as the exact he was
• 37:21
  completely like he would be above board ethical with
• 37:23
  everything and like so yeah, he had one bit and then all of a
• 37:26
  sudden that's all it takes. Like he takes 1 bad episode.
• 37:30
  I would say it took where it wasn't.
• 37:31
  Like he was like, Oh yeah, I. She'll bid I she'll bid that he
• 37:34
  that that's what people were making it out like.
• 37:36
  Like he confessed to some history of shell bidding or
• 37:39
  something. He did it.
• 37:40
  So I don't, I don't know. To me I mean.
• 37:42
  For me, my own self, it disturbed me a lot of the things
• 37:47
  that he said as AI don't know if I I guess.
• 37:51
  Once you're like, once you, once you have P Ryan.
• 37:54
  On And then you have that conversation and some things got
• 37:57
  said that were arrogant and cocky and to me sounded like
• 38:02
  we're all dumb idiots are getting cards I didn't like a
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  lot of. Things that were said and it
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  wasn't and and I just want to. Make sure that I'm not, I'm not
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  offending, I'm not defending P Ryan like I.
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  Don't know him really well. I'm definitely not defending P
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  Ryan. People I don't even know who
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  existed till then, but so a lot of the bad things were from from
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  him. You know, so even Beckett.
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  I mean, I'm I'm. Bummed out I I thought he said
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  some really just really dumb things and.
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  And even saying you're a smart. Person can be dumb just if.
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  I had a lot of more problems. Than maybe how it's coming
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  across so I don't. Want to think people think I'm
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  like, I just forgive them, OK, I forgive and I will move on and I
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  will continue to watch it. Listen to him talk.
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  But I also think that he owes all of us an apology.
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  I think the words that he used at times were inappropriate and
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  that had nothing to do with the show being to me it would just
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  it came across wrong. But I say dumb things all the
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  time, so. Who am I?
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  Who am I to judge? Like I'm like, dude.
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  So there we go. I'm.
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  Sorry, you're not judging. I've said so many stupid.
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  Things, yeah, so yeah, me too. So I guess we made our.
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  We made, you know, we, we said what needed to be said.
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  And, and you know, people aren't going to like me for the things
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  that I've said during this episode.
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  That's fine too. Yeah, that's it.
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  I guess we can put this to bed. I forgive you.
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  I forgive you, Mr. Recker. Yeah, well, that's it.
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  So. That's this episode, guys.
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  Appreciate you watching. Subscribe to the Sports Card
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