Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / Reloaded Episode 188. Dan Duval - Sheep Nations, Melchizedek & Metatron
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- 0:40Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
- 0:44and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the
- 0:47earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
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- 1:07the village, and the village would feast on the body.
- 1:15Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
- 1:17armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
- 1:19their cities. Now God looks down and there's
- 1:22violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
- 1:26at, is not against each other. It's against these
- 1:29principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
- 1:31places. It's really worthwhile to read
- 1:34the Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
- 1:37drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought
- 1:42captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
- 1:49that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
- 2:09Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed.
- 2:12This is Rod, your host. Thank you for being here with
- 2:14me. I got another awesome episode
- 2:17for you guys. Dan Duvall.
- 2:20This is Dan's fifth appearance over the years, and this is one
- 2:24for the records. And I think I've said that every
- 2:26time he's been on. But on this recording, we talk
- 2:29about sheep nations, we get into Fivefold Ministry, then we
- 2:33transition into talking about Melchizedek and Metatron.
- 2:38Why is that important? Well, you guys will find out and
- 2:42a bunch of other really cool ideas and topics come up and and
- 2:46feed into each other. Man, this is one of those fun
- 2:49Dan Duvall episodes where we just flow and just talk about
- 2:52some really interesting stuff, sharing some Bible verses,
- 2:55sharing some insights. It's definitely one that you
- 2:58guys will enjoy. And yeah, I got some really
- 3:01great content. Next week, you guys can be
- 3:03looking forward to the Canary Cry Round Table episode
- 3:07dropping. We're going to spread this
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- 3:14content, this one in particular. Yeah.
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- 3:19The video episode I did with Dan kept glitching out even on the
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- 5:12Hi, I'm Dan Duvall. I am the founder of Bride
- 5:14Ministries, also the Bride Ministries coaching platform.
- 5:20I have trained dozens of ministries all over the world.
- 5:23We've built an online deliverance portal, first of its
- 5:26kind. We run a church here in Katy, TX
- 5:30and we have a huge outreach to Survivor, the satanic ritual,
- 5:33abuse, mind control agendas, extreme trauma, and we're here
- 5:37on the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
- 5:44Dan, it's an honor to be back with you for I believe this is
- 5:47your 5th appearance. Praise God it.
- 5:52Just keeps getting more powerful and more interesting as time
- 5:55goes on, huh? Yes it does.
- 5:58It is a wild world my friend. There is a lot going on.
- 6:02Yes, well, it's exciting to be back with you man.
- 6:08I really do feel like with everything going on, I want the
- 6:10freedom of the spirit to to guide this conversation.
- 6:13But I have a couple questions that I think are inter knitted
- 6:18into even what is going on this very day.
- 6:22So let me just start off man, we're going to get right into
- 6:24it. I'm going to drop the first
- 6:25question. You wrote a book early on called
- 6:28Sheep Nations. This has been something that
- 6:30I've been thinking about and feeling rise up in my spirit.
- 6:33This is powerful. This is important.
- 6:36Tell us about the book and then let's define what is Sheep
- 6:39Nations. What's going on here?
- 6:42Possibly one of the most relevant questions we could be
- 6:45asking right now because of the political swing we are watching
- 6:49in real time. And the reality is that it is
- 6:53opening up for a long time. You have various views of
- 6:58eschatology competing and they fall into various camps.
- 7:04You you have a premillennialist camp, an amillennialist camp, a
- 7:09post millennialist camp. And, and essentially these
- 7:13breakdown into the premillennialist being there is
- 7:161000 year reign of Christ at some time in the future, an
- 7:19amillennialist camp that says that's not going to happen.
- 7:23It's it's just a allegory or a metaphor and a post
- 7:26millennialist camp, which essentially argues that whatever
- 7:30that thousand years means, it already happened.
- 7:34And we are currently living on the other side of that reign of
- 7:40Christ in, in, in a, in a Kingdom age.
- 7:43And we just haven't realized it yet.
- 7:45And so within these three camps, the the eschatology interpretive
- 7:50model varies widely. So you have different views
- 7:54competing. And I think more recently a lot
- 7:58of folks have come through a an eschatology that really leans
- 8:04premillennialist, which which says, look, there is a coming
- 8:09millennial reign of Christ. It's not here yet, Jesus hasn't
- 8:11come. And before that, it's going to
- 8:13be very, very dark and very, very bad.
- 8:17And so to mitigate the stress of that conversation, you have a
- 8:23lot of proponents that have argued for what I would call a
- 8:26pre tribulation rapture. Now this is basically the idea
- 8:31that you have a church that goes up and for seven years the world
- 8:36is awful, but those that are faithful to Jesus get to miss
- 8:39all of that and then they come back with them and in the
- 8:43amillennialist camp and post millennialist camp like this is
- 8:46just complete hogwash. They they wouldn't even go
- 8:48there. But within the premillennialist
- 8:51camp, you also have people that say, yeah, but you other guys,
- 8:54you can't even make scripture make sense because you have to
- 8:57basically erase huge parts of the Old Testament and completely
- 9:01redefine certain components of the New Testament, completely
- 9:05allegorizing a whole series of passages to make your point.
- 9:09We don't like your view. Now within the premillennialist
- 9:13camp, you do have other perspectives.
- 9:16Pre raft rapture, post Trib rapture you have mid Trib
- 9:23rapture you have all these people arguing, right?
- 9:25And and so God many years ago called me to start really
- 9:30looking into these things and he said, look Daniel, you cannot
- 9:33understand the context of your calling until you have a better
- 9:37understanding of what is coming you.
- 9:39You need to understand the context into which you've been
- 9:42sent. And that began me on a journey
- 9:46because I realized like, OK, let's say, let's say there's a
- 9:50burning building, right? And there is a, a, a, a, a
- 9:55treasure in that burning building.
- 9:58But the only thing that you are told is that you have a
- 10:01matchbox. So you can either make the fire
- 10:02worse or you can just run away from the building entirely.
- 10:06And you're like, I'm just going to run away because I don't want
- 10:09to get injured, right? It's so, so the mindset that you
- 10:11use is defined by what you think your available resources are.
- 10:16But if I say this is a fire truck and this is a fire hose,
- 10:18you could put this fire out. You would look at that problem
- 10:22differently. You would say, well, the burning
- 10:23building, maybe I'm on assignment to fix the problem of
- 10:27the burning building entirely. I'm going to approach this
- 10:31problem with that mindset. So you may have a coward that
- 10:34says, well, there is a fire hose, but I'm going to run from
- 10:36the from the fire hose and you're going to have a hero
- 10:38that's going to say, I'm going to give it my best shot.
- 10:41And one of the things that I realized as I started to study
- 10:43out eschatology is, is, is that a lot of people were given the
- 10:47matchbox version of the end times.
- 10:49It's like, well, you can only make this thing worse.
- 10:51You, you, you just need to prepare to get away from the
- 10:54problem, run from the problem, be terrified of the problem
- 10:58because the Antichrist is so big and bad and his Kingdom is
- 11:01coming. And you, you, you just got to
- 11:03get yourself in the right position to get out of jail
- 11:06free. And God is like, no, I've
- 11:09actually sent a whole company of people in to be part of Heaven's
- 11:14outreach program to the problem in the midst of the problem.
- 11:19And this is where I get some of my language.
- 11:21Like if you're going to compare what we're stepping into it from
- 11:25an eschatological perspective to a football game.
- 11:29No, God is not pulling his first string, his best players out for
- 11:34the Super Bowl. He's going to play his a team in
- 11:39the Super Bowl. And so the whole idea and
- 11:42concept behind this pre Trib escape route rapture.
- 11:45I you know, on the on the premise of simply logic, I think
- 11:49it fails. But theologically we can go
- 11:51through verse by verse and break that down.
- 11:53Now with that said, Kingdom Government and the Promise of
- 11:58Sheep Nations, the book that you bring up is the result of I
- 12:02would say a study that spanned from 2010 to 2015.
- 12:06So for me, that book was a product of five years of
- 12:09learning. And as I was learning, I was
- 12:11writing. And as I learned more, I would
- 12:13delete and rewrite whole sections of that book.
- 12:16So the the first I think version of the book was like 330 pages.
- 12:21When I finished, it was 445 pages.
- 12:24So considering everything that got deleted and rewritten, I
- 12:28mean it. I went through a massive
- 12:30overhaul of belief system in the process of producing this work.
- 12:34And in order to do that, I read everyone's stuff.
- 12:37I sought God. I spent a lot of time in the
- 12:39prayer closet and I believe that in that process God was giving
- 12:44me a lot of keys. Not even for that time because I
- 12:47wrote the book almost 10 years ago, but for the time when the
- 12:53window and the season would open up that more people could see
- 12:57the possibilities that God was downloading into me a decade
- 13:01ago. And what are those
- 13:02possibilities? I I believe that God has sent in
- 13:06a generation of world changers. Now we have been dispossessed of
- 13:13that inheritance and identity by fraudulent belief systems and
- 13:17and bad eschatology. But what I believe is that we're
- 13:22here to occupy until he comes period.
- 13:25We don't stop and the the the there are other real anchor
- 13:30points that help us to see the valid nature of our ministry to
- 13:37this age. Such as Jesus Christ is the King
- 13:41of kings. And at no point at any time from
- 13:45the beginning of the word to the end of the word do you see a
- 13:47situation where the Antichrist has more power than Jesus Christ
- 13:51or where Satan has more power than God, which means that our
- 13:55prayers to God are never less powerful than the power the
- 13:59devil is working with. So at what point do we conclude
- 14:02that the power of darkness is greater than anything that we
- 14:06can overcome in Christ? No, we, we have contextualized
- 14:10certain statements like the beast is going to persecute the
- 14:15Saints of the most High and we've said, well, that means
- 14:18we're hopeless. No, that means he's going to
- 14:20persecute us. But anyone that's ever been
- 14:22bullied or mistreated understands that just because
- 14:25you have people that are mistreating you or bullies that
- 14:29don't act right towards us, it doesn't mean that our God is
- 14:33suddenly less powerful or is not interested in moving.
- 14:36And that doesn't stop on a personal level.
- 14:39What sheep nations does and and what I do in that book is I
- 14:43actually expand this logic to know what is God doing about his
- 14:46inheritance. That is the nations of the
- 14:50earth, because Jesus said I'm inheriting the the goyim, the
- 14:55Gentiles, the nations, they are his inheritance.
- 14:59And so he's very, very interested.
- 15:02And so in a nutshell, skipping over a lot and we can come back
- 15:07and start picking some things apart.
- 15:09And you know, I recently did a whole series on Ezekiel's
- 15:11temple, the millennial reign. Like we we, we could go a lot of
- 15:14places on this subject, but in a nutshell, the conversation on
- 15:19sheep nations anchors to Matthew 25 and Matthew 25 says the Son
- 15:24of man. When the Son of Man comes it and
- 15:28and sits, I think it's on the throne of his gore.
- 15:34I could pull it up in a second, but but but but essentially the
- 15:37latter part of Matthew 25, you see the Son of Man coming in and
- 15:41taking a seat of judgement and it says when he does that, he is
- 15:48going to put nations on his right hand and nations on his
- 15:54left hand. And it says that he's going to
- 15:58turn to the nations on his right hand.
- 16:00He refers to those as sheep and he gives them entrance to his
- 16:09Kingdom. He says, you can come in.
- 16:12And when they say, what have we done to deserve this?
- 16:15He basically responds by saying when I was sick, you, you
- 16:21ministered to me. When I was in prison, you
- 16:23visited me. He says all these statements and
- 16:26then he says as you've done to the least of these, my brethren,
- 16:30you've done unto me. Now this is really interesting
- 16:32because most people that read this, Matthew 25 passage of the
- 16:37judgment of sheep and goat nations, they minimize it.
- 16:41They really shrink it down and they say This is why we are
- 16:44supposed to dig wells in impoverished nations like
- 16:49Southeast Asia and Africa, why we're supposed to help those
- 16:53that don't have the resources to help themselves or their
- 16:56governments are so corrupt they can't get the resources to help
- 16:59themselves. You know, we need to beat the
- 17:01hands and feet of Jesus, which is also a great thing.
- 17:03I believe that he who gives to the poor lends to the Lord. 100%
- 17:08true. But to minimize this passage to
- 17:11an encouragement to engage in world missions to the
- 17:15impoverished of the world that is the least of these, my
- 17:18brethren, that that's an oversimplification.
- 17:22I mean, top to bottom, I think it's a total misinterpretation,
- 17:25to be honest. And I'm going to explain why.
- 17:28What you have in this setting in Matthew 25 is a very specific
- 17:33context. It says when the Son of Man
- 17:34comes and sits. So there, this is a moment in
- 17:38time and there's a judgement happening where Jesus is sorting
- 17:43out the nations of the earth. This is after his return.
- 17:46This is after Antichrist. This is after the attempt at
- 17:50global governance. This is after a new world order.
- 17:53This is after people have chosen their place in an attempt to
- 18:00install global governance through a new world order.
- 18:03And and then when Jesus comes back, he brings the nations
- 18:07before me. He says, now we're going to sort
- 18:08you guys out on the basis of something.
- 18:11And he says, as you've done to the least of these my brethren,
- 18:13you did unto me. What God helped me to understand
- 18:15is that this happens on the back of another judgment.
- 18:21And I began to understand a concept.
- 18:23I call it the two phase judgment seat of Christ.
- 18:26So Paul references the judgment seat of Christ two times in in
- 18:30his writings in the New Testament.
- 18:32And it says that we must all stand before the judgement seat
- 18:36of Christ, that we may receive that which was done in the
- 18:39flesh, whether good or bad. So the what?
- 18:43What is presented as a parable right before the judgement of
- 18:46sheep and goat nations is a parable of the talents.
- 18:50And what you see is God giving a judgement to his people, those
- 18:56that serve. Everyone in the parable of the
- 18:57talents is a servant. You have a wicked servant, but a
- 19:01servant nonetheless, who gets one talent.
- 19:03And then you have two faithful servants, one who gets 2 talents
- 19:06and one who gets 5 talents. The faithful servants double
- 19:09what was given to them and are rewarded, but the wicked servant
- 19:14does not. He buries his talent and then he
- 19:17blames God and blames the character of God for his choice.
- 19:22Will that results in a loss of reward.
- 19:25And So what you actually see is the judgement seat of Christ in
- 19:29a first phase being reflected through this parable.
- 19:32Whereas God gathers all of those that are his servants and says
- 19:37at my judgement seat as Jesus, the one who redeemed you, the
- 19:41one who paid the price of your salvation, I'm now going to give
- 19:46reward for your works. And we are rewarded for our
- 19:52work. We, we don't earn our salvation
- 19:53by works, but we are rewarded. And so he sorts out our rewards.
- 19:59And then you see him bring the sheep and goat nations, the rest
- 20:03of the nations now into view in this judgement.
- 20:06And it's like, OK, we're still at the throne.
- 20:09We're still at the, this, this seat, and it's called the
- 20:12judgement seat of Christ. And now Jesus is sorting out the
- 20:15nations, because he's. Preparing, He's actually setting
- 20:20the earth up for a new Christ order, a governance order with
- 20:27Jesus at the end physically in the earth.
- 20:32So at this juncture, there are some that get to continue into
- 20:36that and some that don't. And the basis that that decision
- 20:41is made on is actually not whether or not they received
- 20:45Jesus because you read it word for word, you read the language.
- 20:48It says nothing about salvation by grace through faith in Jesus
- 20:51Christ. It is entirely based on their
- 20:54interaction with the brethren. Who are the brethren?
- 20:58The Saints? So everyone that's receiving
- 21:01reward or losing it now becomes the witnesses of the actions of
- 21:07the nations. And on the basis of those
- 21:10interactions, some nations continue into this new Kingdom
- 21:17on the earth and some go into judgment immediately.
- 21:21They're just wiped out. It's that you cannot continue on
- 21:25the face of this earth. And So what I realized from this
- 21:28is that we do have a point where we actually move into a new
- 21:34reality. Everything changes and God is
- 21:39sorting out the nations. But if he is, if he is giving
- 21:44these nations entrance into his Kingdom, now we understand why
- 21:48in the Book of Revelation chapter 20 the devil is released
- 21:53from his prison after 1000 years and goes out to the four corners
- 21:56of the earth, Gog and Magog to deceive the nations.
- 22:01Everyone always asks how in Revelation 20 do you have all
- 22:04these saved people at the end of a Millennium, if we are going to
- 22:08go with a premillennialist view that are being deceived by Satan
- 22:12after they overcame in this age by believing in Jesus, it
- 22:15doesn't make any sense. But when we look at the sheep
- 22:19nations, those that are judged as that enter the Kingdom, those
- 22:23that will be ruled over by those that rule and reign with Christ
- 22:26as the Saints. Now we have a population that
- 22:30after 1000 years of future generations, they're, they're
- 22:33just populating the earth. They can totally be deceived and
- 22:37they will some of them. And then it says God reigns
- 22:41heaven, fire down from heaven and they're all destroyed.
- 22:43And then Satan is thrown into the like a fire, right.
- 22:45So that's Revelation 20 in a nutshell.
- 22:47Sheep and goat nations answers one of the oldest and most
- 22:51profound questions people have been asking for years.
- 22:53But but now I, I, I got trapped, right?
- 22:56And I'll let you take this in a in a second.
- 22:59I'm sorry, I'm I just keep talking.
- 23:01But the, the idea is that if, if you see these nations getting
- 23:06this glorious destiny because of their interaction with the
- 23:08Saints on the base of this judgment, that does not happen
- 23:11exclusively at that judgment seat.
- 23:13That is the result of everything that happened leading up to that
- 23:19judgment seat, which means the Saints begin to influence the
- 23:25destiny of nations now, and those nations do not ever sign
- 23:34up for the Antichrist agendas, which means the New World Order
- 23:41ultimately never fully works. But there is a generation in the
- 23:46earth to literally, by the influence of prayer, fasting,
- 23:50actual works of influence on corporations and governments and
- 23:56politics and media, steer whole nations in a different
- 24:02direction. And I think that's where we're
- 24:06at in history right now. Man, I agree.
- 24:12I agree. Check the box.
- 24:14Listen, you know, as you're going on, all these scriptures
- 24:18are ringing into mind for me. The weapons of our warfare
- 24:22prayer, pulling down strongholds, right?
- 24:24We see a generation of willing servants, fiduciaries, even
- 24:29better than that, right? Sheep nations, the meek,
- 24:33reserved power literally overlooked, thrown to the
- 24:36wayside. You had mentioned, I think on
- 24:38our first interview a few years ago, the army of volunteers
- 24:44where there's no exchange, there's no trading going on.
- 24:47Like, well, I'll do this. You know, if I get this accolade
- 24:50or if I get this endorsement or if I get this monetary agreement
- 24:54signed, then I will come and be a part of your vision, Daniel.
- 24:59That's the only way I'm going to do this.
- 25:00No, that that is not what I believe God is showing to the
- 25:05humble servants that are literally thirsting for that
- 25:07righteousness hungering after his beauty and power to to
- 25:12literally supplant reverse all the damage of this Well, for the
- 25:18millennial reign, it's going to be exactly as he says it is in
- 25:21his word. Amazing answer to it, right,
- 25:25you're going. On.
- 25:28And I'm just riding the wave with you.
- 25:29Like, yeah, I totally get this. You know, I think what I'd like
- 25:32to kind of transition into that that fits together with sheep
- 25:36nations is just a brief understanding of what fivefold
- 25:41ministry is, what I find to be interesting.
- 25:43Daniels, many people won't talk about this.
- 25:45Yeah, we have armchair researchers everywhere who are
- 25:48willing to come up with every single name and answer for every
- 25:52temple and what it's made of and location and tribes.
- 25:55But you know, we get into this topic where fivefold ministry,
- 26:00how are the brethren you're referring to, even in in your
- 26:02first speak piece, how the brethren are relating to each
- 26:05other, bearing each others burdens and so fulfilling the
- 26:07law, right. How we're communicating, how
- 26:09we're building together. And and I'm looking at it more
- 26:12and more and going fivefold ministry is the arsenal that God
- 26:14has given us. It's the remedy of what it
- 26:17should look like when brethren get together.
- 26:19Can you just speak on that and we'll have some other things.
- 26:22Hopefully we'll transition into. Yeah, well, fivefold ministry is
- 26:26something that was noted. I mean, I noted this early on in
- 26:30my in my journey. It wasn't easy to bring it up in
- 26:35in a lot of circles. And in fact, I had a pastor
- 26:39from, from Cleveland, you know, and when I went to Bible school,
- 26:44I got my hands on a book by Doctor Bill Hemmen and I started
- 26:47researching like, and he was writing about the fivefold.
- 26:49And I, I, I sent a letter and I said, you know, what do you
- 26:51think about some of these ideas of these offices?
- 26:54And he's like, oh, well, apostles are just missionaries.
- 26:56And, you know, the, the, like the prophets are just people
- 26:59that, you know, speak on prophetic passages of Scripture
- 27:04with eloquence. And you know, I, I was like, OK,
- 27:07you know, I, I don't, I don't know that that's going to
- 27:12journey for, for me. And it didn't.
- 27:15And I mean, and I respect that people, you know, everyone's in
- 27:19a different place, but the reality is God did not come to
- 27:24set up a social club, right? That's not what what God is
- 27:28building. He, he's not building a place
- 27:30where we just come and, you know, hang out and, you know,
- 27:32have barbecues and, you know, feel, feel good about, you know,
- 27:35getting together like, like, you know, and, and, and, and have
- 27:38positive, encouraging words based on Scripture, like, like
- 27:41that. That's fantastic.
- 27:43But what Jesus set up is a government that that's what he
- 27:46set up. So all throughout the book of
- 27:49Matthew, you, you don't see Jesus preaching the gospel of
- 27:53Jesus Christ. You see Jesus preaching the
- 27:55gospel of the Kingdom. He just keeps saying the gospel
- 27:58of the Kingdom. And then he says the Kingdom is
- 28:01at hand. The Kingdom is at hand.
- 28:03He's, he spends much less time talking about his death, burial
- 28:07and resurrection and much more time talking about, let me
- 28:10explain to you the Kingdom that I represent.
- 28:17I am not of this world and neither are you.
- 28:22And so when we understand a Kingdom, what we have to
- 28:26understand is that we are first and foremost dealing with a
- 28:28government. It's a, it's a governmental
- 28:31structure and it has its own order.
- 28:33Every government has offices, it has councils, it has
- 28:38administration, it has delegated power.
- 28:43And, and, and, and this is where people get so confused.
- 28:46So I'm going to come back around to fivefold, but but I'm just
- 28:48going to give you like, you know, Can you imagine trying to
- 28:52govern like 3 million people, right?
- 28:53So let's say you got a very small nation under your control,
- 28:57the 3 million people, you know, most nations, 100 million,
- 29:00hundreds of millions of people, but million three all right.
- 29:02So Can you imagine if you didn't have an like a Ministry of
- 29:07Finance and, and, and a ministry of, you know, economic
- 29:13development and the engineering, civil engineering, and you know
- 29:18this over here, like, and you as the leader of that nation,
- 29:21literally just did everything all by yourself.
- 29:24You made every decision on how business is going to be done,
- 29:28every tax policy, you have to write it down yourself every
- 29:31like, you know, and some people think that's how God runs his
- 29:35government, that he just does everything all by himself.
- 29:37And we just sit back and watch God do everything by himself.
- 29:40And if we have anything to do with anything that God is doing
- 29:43and we think we do, we are a heretic and we need to be
- 29:46rebuked quickly because we're nothing.
- 29:49We're no good lowdown, worthless Sinner saved by grace, you know,
- 29:52So take that and eat it. And I can't stand what this does
- 29:57to people psychologically because it makes people
- 30:01dependents and not that we don't depend on God, but we are like
- 30:07it turns people into almost like victims where it's like if God
- 30:11didn't do it, then he wants me to be in this mess broken.
- 30:17Don't have whatever this and and the whole thrust of Scripture is
- 30:20actually collaborate where we are yoked together with God and
- 30:25when God wants to plow a field down, he puts us next to him and
- 30:29we do it together. That's the whole concept of
- 30:33Kingdom. So so when Jesus sets up his
- 30:36body, he's the head. But like when I when I go and
- 30:39mow my lawn, my head doesn't mow the lawn.
- 30:41My arms do and my legs walk the lawnmower.
- 30:43That's how it works. So we are the body that's doing
- 30:47the works of Christ and we when we when we dispossess ourself of
- 30:52that purpose, then we we don't understand.
- 30:56We're part of a government where there has been delegated
- 30:58authority, there is administration, there are
- 31:01offices. And when we understand
- 31:03government, we understand. OK, well, what are the offices?
- 31:05Answer. I have given you apostles,
- 31:07prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers for the perfecting
- 31:10of the Saints, for the work of the ministry.
- 31:12Which means that Jesus delegates offices with power and authority
- 31:19to then bring a, a training, a empowerment from heaven, an
- 31:27impartation from heaven to the people that are going to be his
- 31:31hands and feet in the earth to expand on the influence of his
- 31:37Kingdom through the earth. So that's where, you know, and I
- 31:40see some people and they're like, well, we don't need 5 fold
- 31:42ministry. And it's like, yeah, but you
- 31:43look at the mindset and the kind of impact it produces in a
- 31:48tangible, real, measurable scale.
- 31:51And it's far less than those that are saying, no, we're
- 31:54mapping to the governmental structure of heaven in order to
- 31:59impose the government of our God onto the earth.
- 32:04Because no one will never save men.
- 32:06God means to save men, but he's going to use men in the process
- 32:11of saving men like he he used Moses in the process of saving
- 32:14Israel and the whole nation was delivered with a man like that's
- 32:20how God delivers nations. He finds men and women, he gives
- 32:23them office, he gives them authority, he delegates power
- 32:26and and then he has them, you know, work in councils.
- 32:30He, he, he, he doesn't say there, there are.
- 32:32Then I'm going to explain something else.
- 32:34There are some types of authority that are delegated to
- 32:36individuals and some types of authority that are delegated to
- 32:40sitting councils. And what you delegate to a
- 32:42council is far greater in authority and power than what
- 32:46you delegate to an individual because a council in the
- 32:49multitude of counselors, there is safety.
- 32:51So what did God do when He wanted to really change things
- 32:54in the earth? He put offices, but He set up a
- 32:57governing body called an ecclesia.
- 33:00That's church. OK, so you know, we call a
- 33:03church a social club. The church is the ultimate
- 33:06resident Supreme Council in creation that is here to
- 33:10actually reconcile creation to 1st a state in Christ.
- 33:15That is a humongous responsibility and that is a
- 33:19power that only gets leveraged when the council governs as a
- 33:24body together. Which means now we have to talk
- 33:26about unity, one of the objectives of the fivefold
- 33:31ministry to bring them to the unity of the faith, to the
- 33:35knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of
- 33:38the statue of the fullness of Christ.
- 33:40So you see, the fivefold ministry is actually tasked with
- 33:43unlocking this extreme authority to bring transformation not just
- 33:49to nations, cosmic transformation.
- 33:51And that's something else we could talk about because the
- 33:53man, man's story in, in, in this whole dilemma of God is it
- 34:00begins in the middle. We are not actually the
- 34:04beginning. Adam and Eve are not the
- 34:05beginning of the story. They, they are the middle of a
- 34:08story that is, is spanning and is a much larger conversation.
- 34:13And so with all of that said, yeah, you have apostles,
- 34:18prophets, evangelist pastors and teachers and, and, and the
- 34:20Apostolic figures, they are builders and planters and they
- 34:26serve as they found they they serve as a foundation for what
- 34:31God builds as a structure in the spirit.
- 34:34The Bible says that, you know, being built upon the foundation
- 34:37of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the
- 34:40chief cornerstone. So so an apostle is a load
- 34:45bearing component of a spiritual structure immovable that that
- 34:51that that that that has signs that demonstrate the office they
- 34:58occupy signs, wonders and miracles and and fruit.
- 35:05You also have prophets, but but prophets do speak the word of
- 35:10the Lord like Rhema word they they get the word of the Lord
- 35:16for the season for nations, for communities, for individuals,
- 35:21all of the above. They often are working together
- 35:26and closely with those that are called to build because prophets
- 35:30and apostles they when when it all alliance create like an
- 35:35unstoppable force. It's, it's very powerful.
- 35:37And then you do have pastors. Pastors are shepherds.
- 35:43They take care of the needs of the flag.
- 35:46Because, you know, look, I'm sitting up here, I told my whole
- 35:49church, I'm, I'm, I'm an Apostolic figure planting a
- 35:51local church. And I mean, I am I, you know,
- 35:54that's why I'm a builder and I'm a spearhead.
- 35:57And that's what God uses me to do.
- 35:59And I don't know. But you know, it's like if you
- 36:03don't have, if all you have is, is, is penetration into new
- 36:07territory, all you have is pioneering and you don't have
- 36:11care. People have a hard time with
- 36:15that. You need pastoral care to
- 36:20maintain a move of God that is pioneering.
- 36:24You need people that have the needs and the desires and and
- 36:28and even the limitations and concerns of the people in their
- 36:34hearts that are looking over that and providing backstops and
- 36:39support in those areas. Pastors or shepherds,
- 36:43evangelists, they they are there because there is always a need
- 36:48to bring in new sheep to the fold of Jesus Christ.
- 36:52There are so many people that need to be reached and an
- 36:56evangelist are uniquely graced to do that.
- 37:01And it is their DNA, it is their wiring.
- 37:04And they often move in science wonders and miracles when
- 37:06they've accepted the office. You know, you can do things with
- 37:10an office and you can do things without an office.
- 37:12And I I've a personal examples of that.
- 37:15I was terrified of the Apostolic office.
- 37:17I said, you know, early on I was like, I don't want it.
- 37:19That's scary to me. I'll hurt people with that
- 37:22thing. And what happened was, is I
- 37:25refused the office I was assigned.
- 37:28I was actually operating from a weakened state that caused more
- 37:34pain in the long run. When I finally accepted the
- 37:38office, and you know, I'm going to sit in that seat and I'm
- 37:41going to embrace this office, a grace came on me.
- 37:46And what that means is it's God's divine enablement and
- 37:50partnership with, with the resources of heaven in a way
- 37:53that only is permitted once you have aligned with the office
- 37:56you've been assigned in your heart like, and so, so, so
- 37:59evangelists, they, they, they receive the office, the signs,
- 38:02wonders and miracles will begin the flow.
- 38:03I mean, it's extraordinary to watch and a lot of fun and
- 38:06teachers they, they are so, so concerned with making sure
- 38:10people are grounded in the word. It's, you know, one of the easy
- 38:13ways to explain fivefold ministry, just in a very
- 38:16oversimplified way, is like, you know, the, the, the, the, the
- 38:20teacher is like the pinky finger.
- 38:22The pastor is like the ring finger because they're married
- 38:26to the body. The evangelist is like the
- 38:28middle finger because, you know, they they are an outreach.
- 38:33The prophet is like the pointer finger because they do get in
- 38:35the face of people and nations and, you know, at different
- 38:38times they they have that calling.
- 38:39And, and the apostle is like the thumb that touches all four and
- 38:43holds the whole thing together. So if you're going to hold and
- 38:45rule and reign with a scepter, you need the thumb to close the
- 38:47gap and, and and, and hold the rulership.
- 38:50So yeah, I mean, there you go. Jumping out of my chair over
- 38:56here. Exactly, exactly right.
- 38:59I mean way more thoroughly than I was even able to attempt to
- 39:03answer Recently. I did a round table episode with
- 39:07the days of Noah podcast guys, and we're doing what was called
- 39:09a deconstruction and a reconstruction.
- 39:11Just looking at literally fivefold ministry, looking at
- 39:16not going to get into it here with you, but but the listeners
- 39:18are going to hear your responses and go this bolts in.
- 39:22It's an accelerated, heightened answer to what really many of us
- 39:27are looking for. We're really looking for better
- 39:30answers and, and rightfully dividing the word according to
- 39:32the power of the Ruach instead of it being, oh, this is my
- 39:36seminary detail and I'm only able to exclude this information
- 39:39based on my certificate. No, we want it to be led by the
- 39:43power of the living God. He is the ultimate teacher, as
- 39:46the Bible says. Dan, I want to kind of scoot
- 39:49into two different topics. Now.
- 39:54I don't want to spend a terrible amount of time on Melchizedek
- 39:56because that's going to require a whole episode.
- 39:59I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on Metatron.
- 40:02I have questions on him too. That's going to require a whole
- 40:04nother episode. But if we could briefly go over
- 40:09and even cliffhanger, if you feel LED, let's talk about
- 40:12Metatron and Melchizedek. What's What's popping?
- 40:18With these titles. I know, I know it's loaded
- 40:21because it's like, yeah, that's going to be a four part series
- 40:24just to lay the foundational work.
- 40:26But unfortunately these are questions that are being asked,
- 40:29right? And I believe that caused
- 40:31drumming up a little bit of excitement and you may be
- 40:33dropping a couple gems. We'll get some people directed
- 40:36towards your past teachings regarding your your elongated
- 40:39series that goes over this, but just fill us in.
- 40:42What is going on with these two names that are echoing out of
- 40:46great interest among the body right now?
- 40:49Melchizedek was the priest king that Abraham gave a tithe of all
- 41:00to when he returned from the conquest of kings.
- 41:05Melchizedek was a contemporary of Abraham.
- 41:08He was a contemporary of Nimrod. They were all alive at the same
- 41:13time in that post flood world. We don't know a lot about
- 41:21Melchizedek from the Old Testament beyond the fact that
- 41:25his name literally means the King of Salem and we know that
- 41:30he's a king priest. We get a lot more on him from
- 41:35the New Testament because Jesus Christ comes after the order of
- 41:40Melchizedek and he becomes our King of Kings and our High
- 41:45Priest. And so he is a priest like
- 41:49Melchizedek. And and so he reinstates the
- 41:53Melchizedek priesthood in a sense, because for a long time
- 41:59the Bible articulates the works of the Levitical priesthood.
- 42:04So I mean, you have a lot of other priesthoods that are for
- 42:07false gods. You know, they all have their
- 42:10own priesthoods and their temples and everything else.
- 42:13And then and then and then Yahweh, Yahoo of God, he has the
- 42:17Levitical priesthood in operation.
- 42:19And I mean, there's a lot of problems with that group.
- 42:23So Jesus comes, he basically says I'm going to take the
- 42:26Kingdom of God away from you and give it to a nation producing
- 42:30the fruits thereof. The next thing we know, Jesus
- 42:33Christ is high priest. He's king.
- 42:36He is taking on that role and then we are the priesthood of
- 42:41believers, priesthood of believers, priesthood of
- 42:49believers, priesthood of believers priesthood.
- 43:00You do have a lot that that can be extrapolated because, you
- 43:04know, you get to the New Testament and and there's a
- 43:06passage about Melchizedek that says he is without father or
- 43:09mother, without beginning of days or end of life.
- 43:14And, and, and this is one of the more enigmatic portions of
- 43:18Scripture because you have to ask yourself why?
- 43:21What is this guy doing? And why would it say this about
- 43:25him? Now, if you read the Book of
- 43:27Jasher, which is a pseudopigraphy work, it actually
- 43:31tells you who Melchizedek is. It says it's Shem, as in Shem,
- 43:37Ham and Japheth. Those are Noah's three sons.
- 43:40And so the Book of Jasher actually just comes out and says
- 43:43Melchizedek was Shem, and Melchizedek received the office
- 43:47of priests from Noah, his father.
- 43:50And so it was actually Shem that Abraham is paying tithes and
- 43:55offerings to. And it's like, OK, maybe, maybe,
- 44:01but that does become a little difficult, right when, when when
- 44:07we look at the book of Hebrews and it says, you know, he, he
- 44:15doesn't have a father or mother or beginning of days or end of
- 44:18life. And So what you have to say is
- 44:20kind of like, well, maybe the, the office itself doesn't have
- 44:26those things, because if it was Shem, he certainly had a father
- 44:28whose name was Noah. Now, I think that there's
- 44:35different ways to go about this. And, and at the end of the day,
- 44:38we'll find out eventually what the the truth is.
- 44:46Melchizedek may have also been some kind of angelic figure of
- 44:54sorts, not that is in like not fully like just human person
- 44:59that was fulfilling that role at that time.
- 45:03Or it may have been shown, who knows.
- 45:05But the end of the the day, this is a role and office that that
- 45:10has everything to do with Jesus and what he's doing in the New
- 45:14Testament now. So, so with that said, I mean,
- 45:17that's a that's a brief on Melchizedek.
- 45:19And then and the Menotron Metatron is, according to
- 45:25Kabbalistic texts, the resurrected, not resurrected,
- 45:30the ascended Enoch. That's what they say.
- 45:34And is that true? Well, I don't think so at all.
- 45:38I, I, I think that Kabbalah is a source of poison in the body of
- 45:45Christ. Absolutely.
- 45:46I agree. And the Kabbalistic texts should
- 45:51be avoided as a source of doctrine at at all at all costs.
- 45:56And and and and and because Oh my gosh, you know, and I did a
- 46:00whole 12 part series to try to try to break this down, but you
- 46:03know, in a nutshell, you know, Kabbalah underwrites a lot of
- 46:07Freemasonry in the Illuminati themselves.
- 46:11They use Kabbalah as a programming template.
- 46:13They use the Kabbalah as a programming template in the
- 46:16Jesuit order. It is a revealing of mysteries
- 46:23and, and even the I would call it the Babylonian mystery
- 46:26religion, which is a sex cult based on the worship of the
- 46:29phallus. And there's several things about
- 46:32Kabbalah. It is absolutely a sex cult and
- 46:36its core belief structure. But you wouldn't see that all
- 46:40with all of the layers looking outward towards what we would
- 46:44look at as Jewish mysticism, which is what most people
- 46:49understand Kabbalah as, right. So I have a 12 part series.
- 46:51I can get into all of that. But but Metatron, they would
- 46:55say, well, that's just the ascended Enoch, that that
- 46:57doesn't come from anything in Christianity at all, that that
- 46:59comes from Kabalist, straight up Kabbalistic texts.
- 47:01And the truth is when we begin to break it down, Metatron
- 47:07becomes something they call the microprosopus, which is
- 47:14basically the, the center part of the Lyrianic Kabbalistic tree
- 47:18of life. And that is a, it's a, it's
- 47:22essentially A6 pointed star whose top is at dot, which is
- 47:29it, It aligns with the throat when they map it to the human
- 47:32body. But it, it's bottom is that you
- 47:34said, which it corresponds to like the sex organs.
- 47:37And then you have two other so people could look up.
- 47:40I, I, I, I like when I talk about it in teachings, I like to
- 47:43pull up the trees. So I could say, no, this is what
- 47:44I'm talking about. You would have to reference it,
- 47:47but you know, basically it, when you look at the six points of
- 47:51this part of the Lurianic Kabbalistic tree of life, it
- 47:54forms the diagram for the star, what we call the Star of David,
- 47:58which is actually the star of R.E.M.
- 47:59Pham. It's a six pointed *2 triangles
- 48:02inverted and it also can assemble into a hypercube.
- 48:08And so when they when they refer to something they call
- 48:10Metatron's cube, the idea is that you use a Merkabah.
- 48:14This is Merkabah mysticism. You, you, you astral project by
- 48:19forming in your mind essentially 2 pyramids that are inverted
- 48:23like that six pointed star. You spin them in opposite
- 48:26directions. It pulls the soul out of the
- 48:27body and they ascend into this Metatron's cube, which is a
- 48:30hypercube. And they use it to go into some
- 48:33of the other dimensions. Right.
- 48:34So this is, this is Merc of all mysticism.
- 48:36It's basically astral projection.
- 48:38It's, it's, it's not holy at all.
- 48:41This is a counterfeit. Dangerous territory, it doesn't
- 48:44sound. Good counterfeit ascension
- 48:45protocol. Stay as far away from it as you
- 48:47can because it'll take you into Dark Brown's counterfeit
- 48:49councils. You're going to have encounter
- 48:51that's going to put you in bondage.
- 48:53But the the reality is Metatron is a figure that they believe is
- 48:59the husband of the Shekinah, which which is the the the wife.
- 49:06And so Shekinah becomes associated with Malkut, which is
- 49:10the Kingdom or earth that's at the bottom.
- 49:12But when you really study out their revelation of Metatron,
- 49:18Metatron becomes the microprosobus.
- 49:20He is the Metatron's cube. That part of the thing, which
- 49:24also corresponds to a figure they call Meshiak Ben Yosef,
- 49:27which they say is the driving force behind political Zionism,
- 49:31which is the power that's working with the Rothschilds and
- 49:34other Illuminati families to create counterfeit, what I would
- 49:36call counterfeit timelines in the earth to drive their agendas
- 49:39through God's Word. And, and at the end of the day,
- 49:43when you study out Meshiak Ben Yosef, what you realize is he is
- 49:47the same guy that our apostle Paul referenced when he says the
- 49:52man of sin, the son of Perdition in Second Thessalonians chapter
- 49:562. It's the same guy.
- 49:57And his wife is Shekinah, which is the counterfeit bride.
- 50:01And what you're dealing with is an Antichrist spirit here.
- 50:05And so should people look to this Metatron as some kind of
- 50:12good Angel encounter, something to desire or pray for or
- 50:16interact with? I would say that is that is the
- 50:19humongous deception that and by the way, if you didn't know this
- 50:23for all of you guys that have sang songs to Shikai to bring
- 50:26this up in the our advance. I'm not burn some toes here, but
- 50:29if you really study Shekinah, Shekinah is not the word for
- 50:32glory that is used throughout the Old Testament at all.
- 50:34Never in the Hebrew Bible is Shekinah used in reference to
- 50:38the glory of God. Even the glory of the temple of
- 50:40Solomon. It's Kabal.
- 50:42Kabal is the word that is used in the New Testament.
- 50:45It is doxa. There's a few other words
- 50:47translated glory at different points.
- 50:49None of them are Shekinah. Shekinah is from Jewish texts
- 50:52only. Shekinah has all kinds of things
- 50:56associated with it, including if you read an actual Hebrew
- 50:59invocation of Shekinah, you will find Shekinah reference as the
- 51:02queen of heaven. OK like as in the same queen of
- 51:06heaven that is the harlot of Babylon, the same queen of
- 51:09heaven that is Ishtar, the same queen of heaven that is the same
- 51:13queen of heaven that is Aphrodite.
- 51:15I mean, and she has the same characteristic which is the
- 51:17mother wife complex. And so you see Shekinah in
- 51:22Hebrew or these Jewish texts being regarded as not only a
- 51:29wife, she tried to become a wife to, I believe it was Abraham.
- 51:35Later on you see that she is taking on the role of mother of
- 51:41Moses, taking credit for pushing the basket of Moses to Pharaoh's
- 51:50daughter. So so it it it, it gets
- 51:52described as a mother. But later on in Moses life, the
- 51:56Shekinah becomes the female presence that literally
- 52:02satisfies Moses when he is away from the presence of his wife.
- 52:06Yes, intimately she becomes a spirit wife.
- 52:09So she's the mother wife of the prophet of God, the the man of
- 52:15God that leads Israel out of captivity.
- 52:18And it's that same mother wife complex that you see with the
- 52:22Madonna all throughout history. The Shekinah is is not holy at
- 52:26all. This thing is bad news.
- 52:27Triggering Jezebel. Jezebel ring a bell in
- 52:30conjunction with this. I mean, that's what's triggering
- 52:33for me, it sounds. Oh.
- 52:36My gosh. Yeah, yeah.
- 52:37Look, these female spirits are about as bad as they get.
- 52:40Jezebel, Lilith, Queen of Heaven.
- 52:42I mean, they all have their own dynamics.
- 52:44But yeah, I look, look, what I'm saying is if you really dig down
- 52:48into Shekinah and where that term comes from, you're going to
- 52:52run into the same things I'm telling I'm, I'm just telling
- 52:55what you're going to run into. It's dark and it's it, it's
- 52:59total confusion on the, the truth of God's Word.
- 53:01So, so anyway, yes, Metatron not a good guy.
- 53:07Jesus Christ is our high priest. And the way we started this is
- 53:11like the sheep nations and, and the whole entire essence of
- 53:17love. Do not underestimate the power
- 53:20of love. Because when we scale into a
- 53:23little bit of the Metatron, there's a reason I asked about
- 53:26Melchizedek and Metatron side by side because I knew it.
- 53:29We're going to land here. I'm hoping that this is what's
- 53:32relevant in the mind of the listener is that there's one
- 53:36narrow gate. There's one way.
- 53:38So when we're loaded that, you know, systematically
- 53:41compartmentalizing all of this information with Metatron and
- 53:44New Age and all these other practices, what are they always
- 53:46absent of you guys? I want, I want you to think
- 53:48about that as a listener. The motive to be self
- 53:52sacrificial, to literally be meek, prefer other people as
- 53:57greater than yourself. It's absent of all of that.
- 54:00It's driven by like a hunger and a thirst.
- 54:02You know, this is what I found interesting about even the UAP
- 54:05disclosure that's been taking place recently.
- 54:07Dan, there was severely provocative statements that came
- 54:10through. I'm reading between the line,
- 54:11I'm communing with the spirit and I'm listening through.
- 54:14And one of the questions that were asked to these gentlemen
- 54:17that are doing disclosure was wouldn't it be beneficial for
- 54:21America to obtain any information and technology from
- 54:26these unidentified aerial phenomenons before a proposed
- 54:30enemy would as being like Russia or China?
- 54:32I'm paraphrasing here, but bear with me.
- 54:35What was responded is it would be greatly beneficial for us to
- 54:40gather any and all information from these extra dimensional
- 54:44terrestrial, whatever you want to call them entities for the
- 54:48safety of the American people. And what and immediately what
- 54:51happened to my spirit is God was showing me that the mystery,
- 54:54just like with Metatron, the mystery that the longing for the
- 54:59veneration of everything other than what God shows us, the
- 55:01hunger and thirst for those things being literally erected
- 55:05in the town square. Getting that curiosity and that
- 55:07spirit up in people. That's the dark and dangerous
- 55:10path. Because what does that not
- 55:12qualify as an active daily participant?
- 55:14Dying to your flesh, wrestling with your flesh, laying it down
- 55:18right? It's everything other than that.
- 55:20It's my knowledge puffeth up right and hopefully the
- 55:25listeners understand that Dan, I know you understand the spirit
- 55:27that I'm coming up. There's a comparison here.
- 55:29There's a we're we're looking at it.
- 55:32There's one way one narrow gate. It is be a sheep nation, not a
- 55:36goat nation. People read Dan's book.
- 55:39Even though it's 10 years old, the relevancy of it is is
- 55:41superlative to many other topics right now, Dan, I'm going to
- 55:45kind of transition into a couple different questions I have.
- 55:49I'm going to do these two side by side like I did the last two
- 55:53and it's living water and the millennial reign.
- 55:57I just want to talk about those two and and just see where the
- 56:01freedom of the spirit takes you with those two topics.
- 56:03I know, I'm sorry, I do this to you all the time.
- 56:05You're like, I have an 18 part teaching on that.
- 56:08Condense it into 14 minutes, Dan.
- 56:12But hey, this is this is the time we're allotted.
- 56:15So look, the living water, the Bible says in the book of
- 56:19Jeremiah, You have forsaken me fountain of living waters and
- 56:24hearing for yourselves cisterns, broken cisterns that can hold no
- 56:29God himself is the source of living water.
- 56:33It's like, you know, one of the things I I I came out with when
- 56:36I did our series on elementals is God is actually an elemental
- 56:40spirit and that freaked people out.
- 56:43No, because he is an all consuming fire.
- 56:46He is a rock. He is Ruach Hakodesh, the holy
- 56:52wind, and he is living water. Yeah.
- 56:55What does that make him? An elemental being?
- 56:57Don't have a problem, but it's literally what the Bible says.
- 57:02So one of his expressions is that living water.
- 57:07And that living water flows as a river.
- 57:09It flows from his throne. Revelation chapter 21 describes
- 57:14the river coming and flowing through the tree of life that
- 57:18sits on either side of its St. It is described as coming out of
- 57:26Ezekiel's temple in Ezekiel 40 through 48, and really
- 57:30specifically in in chapter 47. And so I did a whole series on
- 57:36Ezekiel's temple because that temple is such a major question
- 57:43mark on the, on the whole body of, of, of text in the
- 57:45Scripture. And it's so confusing.
- 57:48And depending on your interpretive model of
- 57:50eschatology, I mean, you, you, you can put yourself in a box
- 57:54on, on Ezekiel's temple real easy.
- 57:56I mean, because how do you make room for a temple where animal
- 58:03sacrifices occur in a context of a finished work of Jesus Christ
- 58:10because the temple was never actually built?
- 58:14And why does that same temple where animal sacrifices are
- 58:18happening, which to us in this age would seem to be a total
- 58:21abomination, have a river of living water that is God flowing
- 58:27from it, bringing healing everywhere it goes?
- 58:32And one of the even bigger questions is how is it that it
- 58:34goes and heals the sea? When we read in Revelation 21, I
- 58:40saw a new heaven and a new earth and there was no more sea.
- 58:43And you know, you end up with all of these question marks all
- 58:47over the place. And it becomes a really complex
- 58:50conversation, hence a multi series.
- 58:52Look, I, I, I, I had to unpack this over weeks of teaching.
- 58:58Like though we can make sense of all of these things.
- 59:00And it does make sense if you look at it like this.
- 59:03Well, here's a few thoughts. Here's a few thoughts #1 I
- 59:09believe that the river of living water right now is active and we
- 59:14use the river of living water all the time.
- 59:17We use we, you know, just like you'll see some ministers and
- 59:19they'll go down the line and they'll say be, you know, fire
- 59:21of God. And they'll pray for people that
- 59:23they have, you know, I pray for people that their brokenness
- 59:27gets swept up in the rivers of living water and healed because
- 59:31the Bible says that we are washed by the water of this
- 59:34word. And you know, it's a very
- 59:38powerful healing tool and ministry tool.
- 59:41Like just like we can plead to the blood of Jesus, we can call
- 59:46upon the living water of God. And it works wonders in the
- 59:51spirit world. I mean, it is supremely powerful
- 59:56right now. And even though you don't
- 59:58necessarily see it physically, you can open up.
- 1:00:01I mean, we've had many meetings where the river of living water
- 1:00:05opened up and spiritually it was there.
- 1:00:07And we're like in the spirit world, just drinking and dancing
- 1:00:10in the water. But physically it's not there.
- 1:00:13It's it's in the spirit so so we can interact with these things.
- 1:00:16The River of Living Water, in my experience, has been one of the
- 1:00:20most useful tools in bringing healing to different areas when
- 1:00:23we're called to the cosmic sphere because it can be caused
- 1:00:27to flow through whole planets and stars and bring cleansing
- 1:00:31and healing and redemption to that and so on, on many levels.
- 1:00:34I mean, we have only barely begun to tap the power of, of,
- 1:00:37of living water as a healing resource from God for this
- 1:00:40present time. One of the things I love to do
- 1:00:44in deliverance sessions is I will take an entity because we
- 1:00:47deal with so many hybrid spirits.
- 1:00:49What that, what does that mean? That means it's humanity, like a
- 1:00:52piece or fragment of human soul that's woven together, literally
- 1:00:56knitted with a demonic entity. And so it's both combined and
- 1:01:01often times when we run into these in people, it might
- 1:01:03manifest. I'll have angels just bind them,
- 1:01:06put them in a box filled with living water mixed with oil of
- 1:01:10anointing and the blood of Jesus.
- 1:01:12Like I'll and and the person will actually come back to
- 1:01:14presenter. They'll be able to see this
- 1:01:16happening in a spirit world. They'll be like, Oh my gosh,
- 1:01:18that alligator looking pig faces in a box.
- 1:01:21And I'm like, yeah, of course it is because you know, that's the
- 1:01:25power of Jesus Christ, right. So then we'll take it apart will
- 1:01:29actually pull the humanity out of the demonic.
- 1:01:33Because you know, one of the things that water does even in
- 1:01:35the natural is it it's ionized. So it separates things.
- 1:01:39You have a pan, you put it in water and it begins to loosen
- 1:01:43all of the baked on, caked on crud because the water's
- 1:01:46ionized, positive, negative. Well, you can just imagine what
- 1:01:49that does in the spirit world. It pulls apart holy and unholy.
- 1:01:53So we get people delivered with living water all the time.
- 1:01:56I mean, it's extremely potent. I love it.
- 1:01:59And it, you know, I've seen deliverance seconds take it from
- 1:02:02an hour to a minute when you know what you're doing with
- 1:02:06God's resources. So OK, living water for now, but
- 1:02:09living water in the future, there will be actual living
- 1:02:12water that physically flows from what I believe will be Ezekiel's
- 1:02:15temple. I think that Ezekiel's temple is
- 1:02:18going to be for a specific purpose relevant to the coming
- 1:02:23age. And what is that coming age?
- 1:02:26You're going to have a whole attempt at global governance,
- 1:02:29try and fail, and it's going to get interrupted by the actual
- 1:02:33return of Jesus Christ. You will have the beast and a
- 1:02:35false prophet cast into the lake of fire.
- 1:02:38There will be an Armageddon that is a local war.
- 1:02:41That's not the whole planet blowing up.
- 1:02:43And it's going to be a bloody mess.
- 1:02:46But then it'll be cleaned up because the vultures will eat it
- 1:02:48up. And then God is going to reward
- 1:02:51his people. He's, he'll judge the nation.
- 1:02:52And then you have a whole group of nations, like I said at the
- 1:02:54beginning of this podcast, they're going to, they're going
- 1:02:56to actually enter into that next age where Jesus is ruling a
- 1:03:00reigning, but they're going to enter it as citizens, not as
- 1:03:04Saints. Well, in that context, they're
- 1:03:07going to need a system of worship.
- 1:03:10So what does it say in Zechariah chapter 14, it says the nations
- 1:03:13will have to go annually to celebrate the Feast of
- 1:03:18Tabernacles every year. Well, how are they going to do
- 1:03:21that? Well, there's actually going to
- 1:03:22be a functional temple on the physical earth that's
- 1:03:26independent of anything else that's going on, which I
- 1:03:29actually believe that this is going to be concurrent with the
- 1:03:31new heaven and new earth and the the new Jerusalem that's kind of
- 1:03:34like an orbiting sun of earth. But we could, OK, I could talk
- 1:03:38about that later. Like I think it's concurrent.
- 1:03:41But this temple is functional in that context for these people
- 1:03:45that are now in an age that is not governed by salvation, by
- 1:03:49grace through faith in Jesus Christ, that age has ended.
- 1:03:52Jesus Christ is physically around.
- 1:03:55It's a completely new age. And now we have this temple and
- 1:04:00now we have these people that need a temple because they're
- 1:04:04citizens of the earth. They're not Saints of the most
- 1:04:07high that have glorified bodies like we will.
- 1:04:11And so you see that there is a, a situation where a temple like
- 1:04:15this may have a, a function. And so from that temple, the
- 1:04:19river of living water goes forth because this temple sits in an
- 1:04:23interface. It's super imposition with the
- 1:04:26heavenly reality. And so it, it, it, I mean,
- 1:04:31there's a lot to say on these things, but you will see the the
- 1:04:35river of living water heals everything that it touches.
- 1:04:38And just like prophesied in Ezekiel 47, this is going to
- 1:04:42have some extraordinary ramifications.
- 1:04:45And yeah, I mean, wow. Wow.
- 1:04:49Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at Ezekiel
- 1:04:5147 one through 12 right now and the measuring systems that take
- 1:04:55place. We have the 1750 feet and he
- 1:04:59leaves him across the water again and it's at his ankles.
- 1:05:02And then he goes across the water again, it's at his knees,
- 1:05:04right? And it's like the Spirit was
- 1:05:07kind of showing me some hints as to the millennial reign and this
- 1:05:12temple and this foreshadowing, this prophetic Annunciation that
- 1:05:17is yet to even be reoccurrence, if you will.
- 1:05:22So you answered it really well. You know, I would just say at
- 1:05:26this point in time, you know, I'd like to plug in.
- 1:05:30Well, I can't even say it that way.
- 1:05:31I've had you in the details of my show notes for almost a year
- 1:05:35with your Bride Ministries app. So you're already in what I call
- 1:05:39an MMS recommended resource. Everybody knows that you're in
- 1:05:43all the details of my show notes.
- 1:05:45What is some material, whether it be through YouTube or video
- 1:05:48series, that people can go and say I'm blown away?
- 1:05:53I want to dive deeper into these topics.
- 1:05:56Let's do some recommendations there where people can find your
- 1:05:59content, and then close this out with a word of encouragement.
- 1:06:03All right, so we have a lot of you know this.
- 1:06:06I'm going to be honest, this is one of the hardest questions
- 1:06:08we've been trying to figure out for years.
- 1:06:10Like where do we even start, people?
- 1:06:12The best answer we came up with was the school.
- 1:06:15And so we have a whole institute.
- 1:06:19And what the institute does is it takes people through 4 levels
- 1:06:22of teaching, Level 1. So we start with foundational
- 1:06:25stuff and work up, and that's at brianministriesinstitute.com.
- 1:06:30And it's consolidated. So you can go through years of
- 1:06:33podcasts and teachings and pull ideas and concepts together, or
- 1:06:36you could just get them already consolidated for you.
- 1:06:40And that's what the institute does.
- 1:06:42So it's very helpful if you just worked from any person that
- 1:06:47works from level 1 to level 4 and just goes through those
- 1:06:49courses. Grace the realm of Jesus Christ,
- 1:06:54the Kingdom, spiritual warfare, mysteries of prayer.
- 1:06:57And we have all anyway, they're they're going to learn a whole
- 1:07:01lot more than they bargained for.
- 1:07:02Now beyond that, we have years of sermons and the way that I
- 1:07:08preach at our church, it's kind of, I think different than some
- 1:07:11church. I don't psych like, I don't keep
- 1:07:13going back to old stuff because as a pioneering ministry, we do
- 1:07:18address, you know, relevant things as we go, but every
- 1:07:23series that we do is almost like a new book that's opening up.
- 1:07:26So I, I preach topically and I will typically do anywhere from
- 1:07:324:00 to 12:00 sermons on a single subject, breaking it down
- 1:07:38over a period of months. And we have all of those sermon
- 1:07:44series at bradmovement.com on our shop page.
- 1:07:46A lot of them we left up on YouTube.
- 1:07:48Some of them then they're only available from our website.
- 1:07:52But you know, if people are looking to really go in a deep
- 1:07:56dive on one thing, like I encourage you to explore a
- 1:07:59sermon series because like what you asked about Ezekiel's
- 1:08:01temple, I mean, that's like that's like a thimble of of the
- 1:08:05information that we walked through, the deep depth of the
- 1:08:09study, the richness of everything that was brought
- 1:08:11forth. Even, you know, if you were to
- 1:08:12ask me about the Arkie or if you were asked me about sheep
- 1:08:14nations like you did, you know, I'm giving sound bites in an
- 1:08:18interview, whereas there's so many answered questions.
- 1:08:22It's like, but we have a lot, a lot of these subjects have a
- 1:08:25corresponding sermon series where it's like, no, we went
- 1:08:27through the gamut. And then we have years of
- 1:08:30podcasts. One of the other things that I
- 1:08:33want to let people know is that, you know, what we do is we dig
- 1:08:39our heels in deep on actionable intelligence.
- 1:08:42So I'm not an armchair theologian where I'm just like,
- 1:08:45I'm just going to sit down and make up a wacky idea and try to
- 1:08:47convince people I'm right. I'm here because we are.
- 1:08:52We haven't assigned a task of sending the captive St.
- 1:08:55That's what we do at Bride Ministries.
- 1:08:57We have raised, I mean, we've trained dozens of ministers
- 1:09:01internationally. A lot of them still serve with
- 1:09:04us as as coaches at brideministriescoaching.com.
- 1:09:07And they do deep inner healing and deliverance deprogramming.
- 1:09:10We work with the most difficult cases.
- 1:09:15You know, if you've been to church and they said you're too
- 1:09:17tough for us, we want to help. Like that's what we're here to
- 1:09:21do. And what we learned that brings
- 1:09:27the breakthroughs is what we expand upon when we teach.
- 1:09:32So even if an idea sounds far fetched or difficult to swallow,
- 1:09:37it's like the reason why we're talking about it is because of
- 1:09:40the breakthroughs. It produces one of the
- 1:09:42statements that I made earlier that's quite inflammatory.
- 1:09:46You know, I said the story doesn't begin it.
- 1:09:48Adam. Adam's the middle of the story.
- 1:09:50Well, now there's a lot of other people that are talking about
- 1:09:52it. You know, Derek and Sharon
- 1:09:54Gilbert have been talking about the pre Adamic world.
- 1:09:57You have a number of other people that are really beginning
- 1:10:01to talk about it more. And the idea that there is this
- 1:10:08whole pre Adamic problem that then Adam gets dropped in the
- 1:10:13middle of on the 6th day of that earth, which is really I believe
- 1:10:17more of a recreation because it's formless and void.
- 1:10:22But the Bible says in Isaiah God didn't create it that way.
- 1:10:26You know, that opens up God's plan to redeem his creation
- 1:10:29through man. But it's not the beginning of
- 1:10:33the story. Well, well, what we've been
- 1:10:35getting into more recently is, well, what what does that mean
- 1:10:38for us before Adam is created as a human on the earth?
- 1:10:43And I'll tell you some of the deepest deliverances we've been
- 1:10:46getting connect to the experience of not our souls, not
- 1:10:51our physical bodies, but our human spirits as residents of a
- 1:10:58heavenly pre Adamic reality and the trauma that the human spirit
- 1:11:06went through at the fall, which predates Adam's placement in the
- 1:11:11garden. Because the conflict is already
- 1:11:13underway. I am telling you, we did this at
- 1:11:18the Bride tribe advance and we did a whole teaching and then we
- 1:11:21opened the realm of encounter. Hundreds of people.
- 1:11:24You can fool one or two people everywhere you go.
- 1:11:28Hundreds of people stepped in to encounter with memories from
- 1:11:33their human spirit that predate Adam and there was corresponding
- 1:11:41deliverance and breakthrough. And so when we open up a realm
- 1:11:47and we start to talk about it, it's because there's fruit.
- 1:11:50It's because God is setting the captives free.
- 1:11:53And so we also have a whole thing, we call it our
- 1:11:56deliverance portal, where deliverance.bridemoving.com
- 1:12:00people can take assessments. You know, we and it's 100% free.
- 1:12:04We don't even send you follow up emails.
- 1:12:06Like we don't take an e-mail list from that.
- 1:12:07You just go in and you will take assessments.
- 1:12:10It'll tell you what prayers to use for what problems.
- 1:12:13And we have, I mean, thousands of testimonies all over the
- 1:12:15world of people being delivered of things they didn't even know
- 1:12:18could be a problem. And we're really happy to be
- 1:12:20able to offer that. I, I have a word of
- 1:12:22encouragement. And the reality is, you know, we
- 1:12:28are here for such a time as this.
- 1:12:31I, I think, I think we are sitting in one of the most
- 1:12:33consequential generations ever sent into the earth.
- 1:12:38And this is a generation where you see what I believe is the
- 1:12:42army of volunteers, many people that have come in volunteering
- 1:12:47to be born into some of the most occult dark bloodlines there are
- 1:12:54in order to overcome and to break the cycles.
- 1:13:01In one generation you have a company of people that's been
- 1:13:04sent in all at the same time. Not to just sit here and take it
- 1:13:09and wonder, you know, well, when's the New World Order going
- 1:13:12to come so I can dig a ditch and hide in an underground bunker
- 1:13:15with some nuts and guns? No, I think we're actually here
- 1:13:19to influence the nations because the world is going to pick
- 1:13:23sides, but those sides may be substantial.
- 1:13:28I believe whole nations will opt out of the beast system if the
- 1:13:32company of people that is sent into the world in this day and
- 1:13:36hour takes up their mantle and does what their scroll in heaven
- 1:13:42says they are sent here to do. The destiny of whole nations are
- 1:13:46going to be swayed and the Antichrist and his Kingdom are
- 1:13:52going to have more than they bargained for and guaranteed
- 1:13:56failure up until the very end. It's not going to be easy.
- 1:14:00It's not going to be reasonable. But you know, I think that there
- 1:14:05are some people that are going to hear this and think I'm
- 1:14:07absolutely off my rocker. And I'll say, you know what, you
- 1:14:09can think whatever you want. I'm on scroll and watch what
- 1:14:12happens. And I think more people are
- 1:14:14waking up and be like, you know what, I'm going to get on my
- 1:14:16scroll too, because I am more consequential than I ever
- 1:14:20realized. And that's OK.
- 1:14:22It's OK to be part of a plan that goes further than I could
- 1:14:26have ever imagined. Because the Bible says God is
- 1:14:29able to do exceedingly, abundantly above all, we can ask
- 1:14:34or think according to the power not that works in him.
- 1:14:39The power that works in US, it's not.
- 1:14:44God says there's a whitestone with a name written on it to he
- 1:14:49who endures and no man know the name that is written on that
- 1:14:54stone. We want to hear well done, good
- 1:14:57and faithful servant. That's going to require
- 1:15:00sacrifice and love and being a pioneer.
- 1:15:04It's going to be uncomfortable at times.
- 1:15:07We we pummel the devil more than he pummels us.
- 1:15:12As these days go on. Dan, I just want to honor you
- 1:15:15and thank you for your time again, your 5th appearance and
- 1:15:18hoping to the Lord it's not your last.
- 1:15:20I think we have more things to talk about as the days go on.
- 1:15:26That's it. That's the show you guys.
- 1:15:27I'm going to ask you to share this with your friends, family
- 1:15:30members, Co workers. Share this with your pastor,
- 1:15:32with your doctor coming to you from Southeastern PA.
- 1:15:36God bless. And goodbye.
- 1:16:27Music. The.
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