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Trump Threatens to Nuke Iran | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas · DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Good morning. This is DeProgram with Ted Rall
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and Jamarl Thomas. Today, we will be talking about
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the president's insane speech at the United Nations
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in which he threatened to annihilate Iran. We'll
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be talking about the ICE officer who shot a Venezuelan
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guy in Austin over the weekend, but mysteriously
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decided to turn off his body camera. And this
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was after he hit the dude with his unmarked car.
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Shockingly, the guy didn't know he was an ICE
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officer. The Trump administration is kicking
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750,000 Americans off their Obamacare, so they
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will have no health care going into the midterm
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elections. And this is the two-hour show because
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it's Wednesday. We go 9 to 11 Eastern Time. Thanks
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for joining us. Emphasis on your questions and
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comments in the second hour of the show. Good
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morning, Jamarl. How are you? I'm doing okay.
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Long time no see. How you doing? You had 26 minutes,
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I think. I know, right? Yeah, I was on. I had
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the pleasure to be a guest on your show. Always
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fun. It's funny because it's just a different
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dynamic. Yeah, I got to be honest. Typically,
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the show covers foreign policy. But when Donald
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Trump is giving speeches and stuff like that,
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it immediately feeds into the news cycle.
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So it kind of just works. And your historical
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context is just fantastic. Oh, thank you. You
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can be like, yeah, back in 1922, President so-and-so
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did this, this, this. And I'm just sitting
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there like, wow. It's so much like Teapot Dome.
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I'm hurt, JT. I have never once been a guest
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on your show. I am so hurt. I'm hurt to my soul.
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Listen, I may be like a Klingon in many ways.
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But I do have tear ducts. And there are times
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I cry myself to sleep. I think you might be...
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That might be Sonali lighting right now. Light
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Sonali. L-I-T-E. Oh, did y'all see the shirt
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that Tripp made? No, I haven't seen it yet. Take
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a look at the chat real quick. Okay. Well, okay.
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Oh, there it is. Okay. Well, okay. Oh yeah. You're
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a software engineer, JT. You can do this. $29.
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$29. All right. We'll show it to the, we'll show
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it to the fans. Is it up on the, is it
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up on the. Yeah. He says the shirt is
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live on the website. So yeah. All right. Let
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me go ahead and just remind everyone that we
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do sell merch here. So if you want official
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we're doing it. Do I still have the merch thing
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here? Where is that? Is that ICE agent deporting
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a cow? Is that what I'm looking at? Yes, yes, yes.
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Yes, yes, yes. Oh, there it is. Yeah. Okay. We have
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so many banners here. The merch, the merch site
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is deprogrammed.myspreadshop.com. I'm not a
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fan of the word Spreadshop. I don't know how
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drunk you would have to be when you were starting
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your business to start it out to be like, I know,
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we'll call it Spreadshop because all the good
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URLs are taken. Oh, Spreadshop. Spreadshop. Like
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my spread. I bet all the good names were taken.
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I know how that goes. Spreadshop. Okay, so guys,
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if you have questions, comments, whatever, the
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second hour is especially the place to send those.
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But hell, don't wait. We'll take them anytime.
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Rumble Rants and the Super Chats on YouTube are
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especially appreciated. Just to remind everyone,
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there was really kind of not really confusion
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here. But on YouTube, you can subscribe to the
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show and support us for $5 a month. For $10,
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noticed that if you stuck around until the end
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to exclusive content, including but not limited
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to a call-in chat. And I think I'm probably going
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to start for people who do it for more than,
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say, six months in a row, I'll throw in my next
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book for free, signed, mailed anywhere in the
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United States. It's a cartoon collection talking
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about, it's called No More Mr. Nice Guy. It's
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about cartoons about empire, foreign policy,
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imperialism, exceptionalism, and other U.S.
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bullshit. Very cool. So I'm looking forward to
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that. The book's almost done. I'm putting it
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together now. So, all right. Where shall we start?
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Shall we start with the UN speech by the glorious
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president of the United States? I feel like that
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is the obvious place to begin, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, you want me to start? Oh, yeah. You've been
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up for two hours, yeah. Donald Trump goes to
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the United Nations. All of the other world leaders
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are giving their speeches. He meets Xi Jinping
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tomorrow. But he gives his speech. And this is
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America. Trumpet it to the world, right? And
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it is utterly deranged. Meaning Trump has given
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deranged speeches before, but this is a level
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of deranged that is breathtaking. Donald Trump
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threatened, well, for one, changing super AI
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to super intelligence, as if the rest of the
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world is going to be like, oh, wait. Super intelligence.
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I need to, super intelligence. Nobody's
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going to use that term ever, right? No. Plus
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to me, SI is always going to be Sports Illustrated.
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Exactly. Yes. Swimsuit edition, ideally. The
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only issue I would ever be tempted to pick up,
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but yeah. Exactly. But somebody picked it up.
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But no, the speech was utterly deranged. Donald
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Trump threatened to annihilate Iran, meaning
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every last man, woman, and child in Iran, in
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what is really being called a nuclear war or
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nuclear weapon threat. He even made the point
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of saying, do I drive them into hell? with no
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hope of their future something. It was an utterly
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deranged speech. And some people even make the
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point of saying it broke UN guidelines or it
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broke UN rules in regards to the way the speeches,
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because you can't necessarily sit on the UN and
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make threats against other nations. Basically,
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I'm going to nuclear, I'm going to nuke you to
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other nations. No, it was an utterly outrageous
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speech. And I think you point on something that
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I think is really interesting. Trump has done
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this so many times, it becomes the boy who cried
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wolf. OK, he threatens to nuke them every other
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week. He's been at war. He's losing this war.
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Everybody on the world stage knows he's losing
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this war. And does that feed into this kind of
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amplified rhetoric that is coming out of him?
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Because he knows he is completely impotent to
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do anything about the fact that Iran is - I mean,
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to put a fine point on it, on your point, at
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the very exact time that he's giving that speech,
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U.S. representatives had requested and were
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receiving a three-hour meeting with their Iranian
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counterparts on the sidelines of the same U.N.
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meeting, right? To try to ask what Iran's current
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terms are to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. And
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he told them. They were very clear. Move your
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military. All wars stop. Basically, it's the
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MOU. They haven't necessarily deviated from the
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MOU. All wars stop. We want recompense, meaning
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we want our frozen assets back. We want the U.S.
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military stop threatening and attacking.
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We want the U.S. out of the Middle East, too.
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And we want the U.S. out of the Middle East.
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By the way, as an American, I think it would
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be good for America if we were out of the Middle
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East. You know what's crazy? The craziest thing
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about this, as a former Trump supporter, one
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of the things I supported him on is that he promised,
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he said, I'm the one who can keep you out of
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nuclear war. I'm the one who can keep you out
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of World War III. I'm the one who can make peace.
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We can kill the deep state. We can do all these
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things. And now it's just like Hillary Clinton
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is in the Oval Office, only she looks worse.
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I don't understand. I mean, the man should have
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been, he should be impeached on this alone. By
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the Republicans. Yes, and arrested. Agreed. I
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mean, you cannot just threaten death on 90 million
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people. Men, women, children. And meanwhile,
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you have these so-called Christian leaders who
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are up there just clapping like seals. As the
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president of the only country in the world that's
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ever used nuclear weapons and has its second
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largest arsenal. He should be in prison this
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morning. He should wake up in prison this morning.
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And I'm disgusted. That's why I'm not a Republican
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anymore. They disgust me to no end. Yeah, they
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watch it and have nothing to say. The president
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is threatening annihilation of another country.
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And what's wild about it, the media is so wild
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about this. The level of hypocrisy that
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is built into the media. They will, how do you
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run the speech without, meaning how does the
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speech happen without every media organization
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on the same page saying the president needs to
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be taken out of office? He's lost his mind. This
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is not what America is. You would think that
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they would at least keep up the pretense that
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this is not what America does. I mean, Kaja
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Kallas is over there giving a lecture to Foreign
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Minister Araghchi as Trump is on stage making
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this speech about annihilating an entire population.
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It's like, okay, don't talk to me. You guys gave
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up Denmark. I mean, you guys gave up Greenland.
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I don't want to hear anything from you. You're
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powerless in this situation. And your hypocrisy
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is a stench that is just... Yeah, no, it's putrid.
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And the thing is, there's
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not, the establishment just doesn't
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know what to do about Donald Trump, right? I
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mean, editorial, I can just imagine the editorial board of the
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New York Times meeting. It's like,
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that was a crazy speech. Yeah, should we
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say anything? I don't know. We've done
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it before. Nobody really cared. Should we do
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it again? We can, but it'll just
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make, it'll be just another impotent statement,
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right? That's what they'll be saying. They're
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not wrong. Republicans in Congress
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are like, come on, we can't come out against
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our own president as we go into the midterms.
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Although, actually, it might strengthen them.
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It would be better for them to do so. For them.
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Yeah, from a realpolitik point of view. You
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know, this, look. You know what this is? Honestly,
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there's a remedy here. It's the 25th Amendment.
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This is where and the 25th Amendment, from a
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Republican point of view, solves a lot of issues.
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I mean, can you I can imagine the campaign ads.
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I mean, it's a little late in the game and they
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should have done this earlier. But imagine if
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today J.D. Vance said after, with
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after difficult consideration and thoughts and
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prayers and blah, blah, blah. I've decided to
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invoke the 25th Amendment and have received a
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majority vote from the United States Cabinet
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to temporarily, because that's the language of
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the amendment, remove the president from as acting
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president. I will be assuming the role as acting
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president while we figure out what to do about
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Donald Trump. We all saw that speech. The United
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States has a special responsibility to the rest
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of the world to be sober and calm and rational.
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And even though we continue our conflict against
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Iran, there are certain lines that can't be crossed.
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And President Trump leapt over that, not for
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the first time. I think it's like, and here's
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the ad that I imagine the Republican National
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Committee running. It's like, for four years
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they show images of doddering Joe Biden.
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The Democratic Party covered up the cognitive
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inabilities of Joe Biden that forced him to withdraw
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from the race just two years ago. Republican
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Party isn't like that. We take out our own trash.
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And even when it hurts us, even when it's difficult
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for us, we know it might cost us a few seats
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in the midterm elections. But that's OK, because
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for the GOP, the USA comes first. I would love
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that. That's effective, right? I mean, as a lefty,
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I'd be like, whoa, that's good. That would destroy
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the Republican Party. That would literally destroy
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the Republican Party. Look, I agree with it.
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They should do it because it's in the best interest
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of America for them to do it. But man, and bring
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in Robby. Where's Robby? Because I want to
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get his take on this. The reason why I said this
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would destroy the Republican Party is because
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you have a good 20%. It's kind of like the Sanders
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thing. When the Democratic Party broke with Sanders,
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you got tens of millions of people who said,
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F that party. Me being one of them, by the way.
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And a lot of people who I was doing the YouTube
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videos and everything else with were on the same
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page at that party. I don't want anything to
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do with it. You would never get my vote. I will
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hate you forever, etc. The end. I think you'll
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get something similar that for Trump. I mean,
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keep in mind, there's a good 20 percent of the
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population where Donald Trump could murder somebody
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in broad daylight and they would act as if, well,
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I mean. They had it coming. They must have done
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something or they must do something in the future.
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Yeah. I guess my point is, and I want Robby's
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take on this, would this create a split of the
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10, 15 percent that would do anything that Trump
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tells them to do and believe anything that Trump
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tells them versus the other Republican Party,
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which would be enough to functionally destroy
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the Republican Party from ever getting elected
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in major office? Well, the split already exists.
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People who don't know, I produce Jeff Dornik's
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stuff in addition to this show and TMI. So he
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has a lot of these Republican guests on. It's
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just like, yeah, Trump is bad. Yeah, Trump has
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broke all of his promises. Yeah, Trump is a liar.
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But Republican, they come in November. And sometimes
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what Jeff will do is he'll let me pop on like
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y'all do here. And I challenge these people.
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Why would I vote for a hypocritical Republican
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when I can vote for a Democrat and get the real
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thing? I mean, seriously, I mean, what's... As
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you know, Democrats have often had their own
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version of that same exact comment. Oh, yeah,
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no, no, I get that. But these people, though,
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what they do is they play team politics. So then
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I'd like to just throw that hypocrisy card. I
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mean, we hit $40 trillion under a Republican
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Congress and a Republican president. But yet
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you say you're fiscally responsible. And yet
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here we are. So why would I... At the same time
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that Trump is promising to spend $1.5 trillion
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if the GOP maintains control of Congress. This
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last guy, this lady, she's like a libertarian.
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She's talking about how Trump is a restraining
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force. It's a restraining on what? A restraining
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force saying that she is a restraining force.
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Against the Democrats, I assume she means. Exactly.
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But then the point that... What, against the
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Democrats and their crazy Zionism? Oh, wait.
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Yeah, of course. So then what I pointed out is
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it's like, no, under a Republican administration,
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we killed over a million Iraqis with sanctions.
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Trump started and lost, by the way, a brand new
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war against Iran for the interest of a foreign
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country. But yet you say that you want to make
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America great again? So how do you square that
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peg? What accountability should the Republican
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Party have and Trump specifically for what he
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has done? Okay, so, Robby, what do Jeff's guests
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say? Well, the Democrats would be worse. I said,
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if you asked me to pick up which one of the turd
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would I rather handle? I said, it all sucks.
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How about I just walk away and just go play with
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Tucker Carlson's sandbox and y'all can just
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get smashed? Rightfully so. And it's also this
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split you're seeing here on the right is also
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happening with the Democratic Party with the
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populace on the left. So what people like you,
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and I know Angie Wong doesn't watch this, so
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who cares? Basically, these people, they are
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like Angie Wong, only dumber. Ooh. Careful there
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about my former co-host. Angie Wong is smart.
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No, she's able to at least make an argument. She's
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also really cynical. I mean, oh, incredibly so. I
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mean, but the point I'm trying to make is that
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both political parties? I always say if Angie
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woke up one morning and there was a giant poster
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of Lenin on the wall across from her house and
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red and yellow bunting all over the place and
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Mao Zedong posters hanging from the lamppost,
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she'd be out there with her hammer and sickle
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lapel pin and talking about how much she loves
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socialism. Oh, that's funny. Well, the point
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I'm trying to make is that both political parties
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have betrayed the American people. They both
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need to be replaced. And why should I reward
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them with a vote before doing the exact opposite
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of what they're putting into office to do? Agreed.
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I would love to get a politician just once, just
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one, who looks at the United States and the American
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people the way they look at Israel or NATO or
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their little war in Ukraine. Yeah. There are
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a few like that. I think Marjorie Taylor Greene
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is one of them. She's in Congress. She's out.
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Right, right. I think Bernie Sanders cares more
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about the U.S. Bernie Sanders just gave a speech
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talking about we need to work with the grassroots
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people in Russia and overthrow Putin's violent
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regime who's murdered 500,000 people. That's
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gay. Literally, I've been doing that. It's really
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gay. I got the clip. I didn't even play it for
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my audience. I was like, I'm so disgusted with
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Bernie Sanders. That's dumb. But, just
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in simple in terms of loving this country. But
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anyway, all right. But yeah, your point is taken,
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Robby. All right. So let's keep, let's digest
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here. We know what should happen here, but we
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know what is going to happen, which is nothing.
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Okay, so let's talk about the... As you point
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out, they may put out impotent articles, but
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what needs to take place is Congress behaving
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like a Congress that cares about... Impeachment
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proceedings. Yeah. I mean, it's and it shouldn't
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be. Although I don't think we have time for impeachment
18:58
proceedings. I mean, as Scott Stantis always
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reminds me, one of the reasons that the Watergate
19:04
Nixon was very popular and it took about two
19:09
years or a year and three quarters to build the
19:12
case slowly over time for the impeachment to
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the point where the whole country came on board,
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including people who had voted for Nixon and
19:20
thought, OK, yeah, he's got to go.
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We don't have a year and a half. This I mean
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first of all I mean Donald Trump's going to be done
19:27
in a year and a half anyway but I think events
19:32
are moving too quickly. It's too terrifying to
19:35
think of where I mean seriously September
19:40
23rd, 2027. That idea scares me if this is still
19:46
the president of the United States even with
19:48
the Democratic Congress. I mean, he can still
19:52
wake up one morning like Martin Sheen in The
19:54
Dead Zone and say the missiles are flying, hallelujah,
19:57
hallelujah, and there's nothing we can do. I
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have a question for you. This is something I
20:01
woke up at 2 o'clock this morning. I was just
20:03
thinking about this. This is a question to ask
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JT and Ted. Could we be looking at shortages
20:09
and civil unrest in cities because trucks and
20:12
trains are no longer moving because diesel is
20:14
so unaffordable that you're just able to ship
20:17
stuff? Did Trump then use that as a pretext to
20:20
cancel the elections in November? So, guys, I
20:22
was driving. I drove out to my dad's birthday
20:26
party last weekend. And on the way back, I was
20:29
driving through, obviously, through Ohio and
20:32
through Pennsylvania on my way back home. I stopped
20:36
for gas. Actually, I stopped to piss at a rest
20:39
area. And there were tons of semis lined up along
20:43
the road in a place that's not like an official
20:45
rest area. It's sort of just an intersection
20:47
off Interstate 70 in the middle of a cornfield.
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And while I was pissing, I was talking to another
20:55
guy who was pissing, a truck driver. And I said,
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oh, do you guys spend the night here? And he
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goes, Well, not really. He goes, the price of
21:05
diesel is now so high that our companies are
21:09
kind of telling us to just sit still and don't
21:12
go anywhere and just hang tight because the cost
21:17
of operating the truck exceeds the profitability
21:20
of running the merchandise and having it arrive
21:23
on time. And I said, is that true? Even accounting
21:25
for the late fees and everything? He said, yeah.
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So he's like where the whole he said the trucking
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system like nationally is starting to break down.
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And so I'd be interested in getting some experts
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on intermodal transport and interstate
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trucking, because it's a very obviously that's
21:44
how most goods in this country move. But and
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I don't know if that guy was full of shit, but,
21:48
it didn't seem like it. But I've read
21:51
similar reports. I was at the gas station here
21:54
in Kalispell and you've been here. It's a small
21:57
town, deep red. It's northwest Montana, for God's
22:01
sake. Out in the middle of nowhere. A lot of
22:02
cowboy hats. No irony. Seriously worn. Even bolo
22:11
ties, a few of those. It's all ranching country
22:14
here. If you get two minutes outside of town,
22:17
it's all ranches. They're dying. All over the
22:21
gas pumps, there are pictures of Trump saying,
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I did this. Wow. Yeah. By the way, I saw some
22:28
stickers like that. I took photos. I think I
22:30
put it in the chat of those stickers on a gas
22:33
pump. This is like Washington Court House, Ohio,
22:39
and it's kind of like off US 35 at the intersection
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of I-71. They have all sorts of hillbilly gear
22:45
that my son loves me to pick up because he wears
22:48
it ironically. These colors don't run and that
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kind of shit. And that... That's as red as it
22:56
gets, right? It's as red as the banner below
22:58
the screen here. And the stickers were all on
23:02
the pump that said Trump did this. Now, that's
23:05
no big deal. But they'd been there for a while
23:07
and nobody had attempted to pick them off. To
23:10
me, that said a lot. They should put that everywhere.
23:13
At every gas station they could find, they should
23:14
put Trump did this, Trump did this, Trump did
23:16
this. Here's the thing, though. Gas
23:19
in Richmond jumped up to $4.32. And I remember
23:22
I was in the car. And I think I said, God is
23:24
good. Just don't be driving a fucking camper
23:31
or something. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the reason why
23:33
I say that is it's like, dude, we are killing
23:37
people. And it's like, I don't think it was like,
23:40
God damn, the gas was going up. And what's wild
23:43
is many Americans don't know why. I remember
23:46
I was listening to a conversation
23:49
between these women. And they were pointing out
23:52
like, yeah, food has gone up. I can't believe
23:55
that a Whopper costs eight bucks and this has
23:58
gone up in gas. And I was like, it's only going
24:00
to get worse. And the moment that you try to
24:03
explain, well, Ansar Allah is taking the Red
24:05
Sea. They're like, Ansar what?
24:11
What? Who? Why is that happening? Blah, blah,
24:14
blah. Oh my God, China's going to get involved?
24:16
I got your Strait of Hormuz right here. Yeah,
24:19
they have no clue. They're completely oblivious.
24:22
What they know is Trump did something and gas
24:24
has gone up. They don't know the particulars,
24:27
the details. Well, that's the thing about it.
24:28
I always say that American politics has rough
24:30
justice to it, right? Like George H.W. Bush,
24:35
he knew what a supermarket scanner was. He knew
24:38
exactly what it was. He was just being polite
24:40
and he came off as a goofus. But it was fair,
24:45
even though it was unfair, because he was a privileged
24:49
Yalie who belonged to Skull and Bones who was
24:52
out of touch and didn't really have to buy his
24:54
own shit and wasn't connected
24:56
to the problems of the American people during
24:58
the middle of a harsh recession. This is the same
25:01
thing. People don't need to know about Ansar Allah
25:04
and the Yemeni proxy war with Saudi Arabia.
25:09
They don't need to know all that shit. But it's
25:13
happening under this president. And the buck
25:16
stops with him. And I guess it's like every Republican
25:20
in Congress. By the way, some Republican congressional
25:23
candidates have started to peel away and distance
25:26
themselves from the president in their public
25:27
posturing, which has been interesting. The Democrat
25:31
running for the congressional seat here in Montana
25:35
very well could win. And he's running on the
25:39
Iran wars. Trump started this. So the two things
25:42
he's going after Trump on is the importation
25:44
of hundreds of millions of tons of Argentine
25:47
beef that Argentina could not sell on the open
25:49
market because no one wanted it. You've got to
25:51
ask yourself why that is. Keep in mind, Montana
25:54
is a big agricultural state, and then the cost
25:57
of - Yeah, but they've got that sweet Belarusian
25:59
potash coming. Yeah, good luck with that. But
26:02
cows don't eat fertilizer. Not to mention, there's
26:06
nothing coming. No, it's all trash. Trump should
26:10
be in prison today, and the Republicans deserve
26:14
everything that's coming to them. I hope that
26:16
they get destroyed. But what's sad to me is that
26:18
the Democrats will benefit, and they don't deserve
26:20
it. And that's the other sad part. Yeah. Like
26:23
when people talk about that stuff and it's like,
26:25
yeah, but what does that really give you? Like
26:29
you could say, well, we put Democrats in office.
26:31
Yeah, but for what? And you could say, well,
26:33
we put Democrats in opposition to Trump. But
26:37
it's like, that's still just an opposition. What
26:39
are you getting out of it? And that's the scam,
26:41
right? Like you have two political parties and
26:44
both political parties realize that the majority
26:45
of things are not going to be something that
26:47
they talk about because those things are settled.
26:49
How you like capital, the issue of wars, the
26:52
issues of how money is moved around
26:56
the country and those type of things. OK, those
26:57
things you don't really have to say so over.
26:59
So what you talk about is, well, these big things
27:02
and the things are not that big because they're
27:04
not that big of a difference between the two
27:06
parties on those things. A Democrat's issue,
27:09
if you listen to like MSNBC, their issue is not
27:11
that Trump attacked Iran. The issue is that Trump
27:15
is losing the war and he looks bad, and that
27:19
the American public doesn't like it, and so they're
27:20
honing in on it. But if they're talking
27:24
about Iran, they trash Iran every bit as much
27:26
as the Republican Party's trash Iran. Same thing
27:29
with Russia, same thing with any other particular
27:30
issue. It's not that, meaning, it's done cynical
27:35
for cynical reasons, not because they care anything
27:38
about the particular issue. It's very cynical.
27:41
It's a scam. It's like it floats back and forth.
27:43
Like Nancy Pelosi one time said, Well, they'll
27:46
come back to us after they get tired of Republicans.
27:49
Meaning she knows that they're going to be unsatisfied
27:51
with the Republicans because the public is not
27:53
going to get ultimately what it wants. And it
27:55
slashes back to Democrats looking for something
27:57
that it's not going to get out of Democrats.
27:59
And it slashes back. We flail. That's what we
28:02
do. We flail between these two shit-ass parties.
28:06
And that's why we have like 58% turnout in national
28:11
elections, which is definitely toward the bottom
28:15
for electoral democracy. They don't need to deliver.
28:17
That's the other part because you can fundraise
28:21
on, you can fundraise from the outside. Well they
28:23
deliver to their donors. That's what they deliver
28:25
to. They don't care about us. Well when Donald
28:27
Trump is making speeches and he's like we've
28:29
done this we've done that he's being honest. Yeah
28:31
he's being honest. It just doesn't apply to us.
28:35
When they tell you in school
28:37
you have to write speeches to a particular audience
28:39
you don't write it to everybody because it doesn't
28:41
really make sense to everybody. It's to your specific
28:43
audience. We are the greatest country. We've made
28:46
huge amounts of money. We're doing great. Stock
28:50
market is awesome. Yeah. Tail the usual
28:54
tale of two economies. All right. Let's talk
28:57
about the talks that took place on the sidelines
28:59
of the UN, right? Yeah. That's worthy and notable.
29:03
So the Iranian delegation met with U.S. reps
29:08
to try to negotiate an end to the war, or at
29:11
least the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz,
29:12
which from the Iranian standpoint is exactly
29:15
the same thing, because that Strait of Hormuz
29:16
is not reopening. The only way it's reopening
29:19
is, as far as Iran is concerned, the war is over.
29:22
So, okay, question here. And I hope the Iranians
29:28
would never be stupid enough to temporarily reopen
29:31
it while they're negotiating. Because they tried
29:33
that shit before and it didn't. They got played.
29:35
That was the theft that they put into play. They
29:38
got played. All right. So clearly,
29:43
all apocalyptic and rhetoric aside,
29:47
Trump and his administration are desperate to
29:50
bring this in for a landing. What do you think
29:52
they're willing to give Iran to accomplish
29:56
that? In other words, is a deal possible? No. I mean
30:02
it's possible Trump could accept their terms.
30:03
Yeah, but in other words is it likely that Trump
30:06
will accept their terms? No. Let's shall we go
30:10
through them? What, okay, so reparations.
30:12
Would Trump return their funds? He returned some
30:17
of them or at least he promised to. I don't know
30:19
if they ever got them. Probably not, right? That'd
30:21
be hard. The way they checked their
30:24
money it is their money and we have no right
30:27
to their money every bit as much as we have no
30:29
right to Venezuelan money or we have any right
30:31
to Russian. Right, but we still stole resources
30:33
from these countries. Yeah. I, the way they
30:37
went after Obama when Obama gave Iran his money
30:40
back and can you imagine that news clip of playing
30:44
this is Trump complaining about Obama giving
30:46
money to Iran? Who's going to play that? Democrats.
30:48
I don't see Democrats playing that card.
30:53
They may not play their card. True. That's true.
30:56
I think Trump can do that. I think Trump can
30:59
get away with that. He can return a sizable amount
31:03
of the money. If I were him, I'd probably be
31:06
like, okay, you get half back now, half upon
31:09
completion, like a real estate deal. It would
31:11
make him look weak. He would never do it. It
31:13
would make him look weak. He's going to look
31:15
weak if he wants to solve this war because he's
31:17
lost. It's one of the main provisions that Iran
31:21
is still sticking with. Yeah. Your dog in line.
31:24
And he's got to choke. Yeah, he's got to pull
31:26
that choker collar on Israel. Make the dogs holler.
31:32
Right. Right. Can he do that? Well, he can do
31:37
that. He can do everything that's on the MOU.
31:39
Every last thing is within the power of the president.
31:41
The question is, will he? And the answer is no.
31:45
Have y'all seen the profits? I just don't believe
31:47
it. I don't buy it. You saw yesterday, Ben Moser
31:49
yesterday was saying like, look, he thought I
31:52
was being excessive when I said that
31:56
the US relationship with Israel might still continue
31:59
for another 10 or 15 years. He thinks it'll be
32:01
shorter than that. All right, let's split the
32:03
difference and say that it's seven or six years.
32:06
That's probably more accurate, right? So what's
32:11
going to, I mean, if you know that, then
32:15
you know. But he doesn't know that. Do you care about
32:17
Israel, really? But he doesn't know that. And
32:19
not just, he doesn't know that. Trump doesn't
32:21
know much of anything. He's not a bright man.
32:24
And beyond the point, what Donald Trump is doing
32:26
right now. Yeah, but J.D. Vance is, and J.D.
32:27
Vance can tell him. But what Donald Trump is
32:30
doing right now, at this very moment, is trying
32:32
to maintain the American empire. And he's doing
32:35
so because he believes that this capitalism stuff
32:38
is now going against America, right? It's like,
32:42
okay, we had all of these advantages after the
32:44
Second World War. These advantages have slid
32:46
away from us now, and we are receding as an empire.
32:49
We need to hold back the night. And so what does
32:51
he do? We need to lock down South America. We
32:53
need to go after Venezuela and take the oil so
32:55
China doesn't get it. We need to go after Iran
32:57
because we need to hurt Iran, which would hurt
33:00
China and Russia just because of the geopolitical
33:02
position of Iran. Meaning all of this stuff is
33:05
now on the table in this kind of naked aggression.
33:08
Why would he all of a sudden believe the same
33:11
thing for Israel? Meaning in the same way that
33:13
he's doing this for the world, Israel is part
33:15
of the piece of that puzzle. I don't think he's
33:17
going to give that up. I just don't. And leaving
33:20
Iran, emancipated, for lack of a better
33:24
term, with their military force and everything
33:26
else, with them getting very familiar at hitting
33:29
American bases, with Ansar Allah and the resistance
33:31
fighters also taking part of this particular
33:33
war that is making America's economy scream.
33:36
I don't get the sense that he's willing to give
33:38
up that pick. Well, even Imperial Japan got to
33:42
keep their empire. I mean, their emperor at the
33:44
end of the war. Maybe there's some bone that
33:48
Iran can throw to Trump so that he saves a little
33:51
face, right? I don't know what that bone
33:53
is. Is it maybe Iran agrees to roll back its
33:59
support of the axis of resistance to some extent?
34:02
They're not going to do it. They're not going
34:04
to do it. But does Iran need to support Hezbollah?
34:08
They're not receiving tons of material support
34:10
from Iran anyway. If Hezbollah no longer has
34:15
Israel up their ass. Yeah, but Israel still exists.
34:19
Right. For the time being. But the resistance
34:22
is not there just because it's there. It's there
34:24
because Israel is an irritant to the region and
34:26
has been murdering people en masse for decades.
34:29
And so it's like they're not going to give up
34:31
what has allowed them to have some level of
34:34
security, not just their missiles, but also the
34:36
axes. I mean, the fact that Yemen got involved
34:38
with the Red Sea and the Bab el-Mandeb Strait
34:40
was dramatic. Like gas goes from like $3.60
34:45
to $4.20 and then doubles. By the way, do you
34:48
guys have any insight into why and how the Houthis
34:52
achieved their recent military advances? I mean,
34:55
after years of stalemate? Yeah, that's a good
34:58
question. It seems that they were in this kind
35:01
of incubation period. Like they were building
35:04
up their power. That's what it seems like. Because
35:07
the moment that Saudi Arabia hit the airport,
35:10
all hell broke loose. I mean, obviously, Iran
35:13
had been on the ground. So they were fighting
35:15
like Afghans. They were just careful, waiting,
35:18
planning, watching. That's the Afghan way. You
35:22
invade Afghanistan, everyone heads to the hills.
35:25
And you're like, look, we've won. We can start
35:28
fucking all the Afghan women and move right into
35:30
their homes. Uh-huh. Yeah, you do that and
35:34
then in a few years they're going to be eating
35:36
your bones, screaming from the hills.
35:39
But that's going to see what happened. I mean
35:41
Yemen was under starvation, deprivation, poverty.
35:44
They were being killed by Saudis and all out
35:47
just came screaming from nowhere just taking
35:53
over, regaining Yemen territory again. I mean part
35:56
of it had to do with Saudi Arabia and the GCC
35:59
states having to break down themselves in regards
36:00
to policy. But all that besides the point it
36:05
was when they hit the airport is when all of
36:07
the renewed struggle came about. So look I guess
36:11
my point is I don't know what Iran would give
36:13
Trump in this. I mean what do you give away?
36:16
We want your military bases to move away. Do you
36:19
really give that away considering that they're
36:21
launching attacks on your country? We want all
36:23
wars to stop. We want the blockade to stop. Okay.
36:25
Well Trump can easily do the get rid of the blockade
36:28
but the other things are just as important. We
36:30
want our frozen assets. You've stolen our money.
36:32
We want our money back if you want this war to
36:33
stop. And let's be honest it's not like Iran is
36:36
immediately hitting the United States the moment
36:38
that the U.S. stops. Iran for the most part stops.
36:41
I think they attacked Jordan yesterday but You
36:45
know, Donald Trump hasn't responded to any of
36:47
the most recent attacks that Iran has effectively
36:49
done, probably because he's concerned about the
36:51
midterms. But I would say the midterms are a
36:53
lost cause. The midterms are definitely a lost
36:56
cause. I typically am the one who's more than
37:00
happy to blame Israel for pretty much everything,
37:02
including the flyer that landed on my cereal
37:04
this morning. But in this case, I know that's
37:06
the case. Have y'all seen the percentage of
37:10
profit, not earnings, profit that the oil companies
37:13
have made year to date? Oh, I know they make
37:15
it in killing. Yeah, so I pulled it up because
37:18
I'm bored. So ExxonMobil. I'm old enough to remember
37:21
when Congress passed taxes on windfall profits.
37:25
So ExxonMobil last year made $7.1 billion. Today,
37:31
they're up to $14.58 billion. This is a 104
37:34
% increase. Sorry, I've got to call my broker
37:37
right now. They, yet last year they brought
37:41
in some 4.7 billion. Today they are sitting
37:44
at 9.84 billion, 109 increase. That's combined.
37:49
The five major companies are averaging between
37:53
us three are the wrong business and I think Russia
37:57
had like 30, 40 billion in profits or something
38:00
like that. Yeah. Trump has no interest in ending
38:04
this war. It is enriching his donors. That's
38:06
why the Democratic Party is not pressuring to
38:09
have this war ended. It is enriching their donors.
38:13
Okay. I'm about to channel my - Donald Trump
38:16
is still going to be in a world of pain next
38:18
year. Who cares? Well, he cares. If the new boss
38:22
is like the old boss, seriously, what? Okay,
38:24
so George H.W. Bush started a war and nothing
38:29
happened. George W. Bush started a war, killed
38:31
over a million people. He's not in prison. He's
38:33
living his best life talking to Jenna Bush on
38:36
a morning show, yucking up about his new book.
38:38
Nothing ever happens. I don't think they would
38:41
impeach him over the war. Like I said, I think
38:43
they're okay with the war. I think they would
38:44
impeach him over financial stuff. They would
38:46
have had the war themselves. I think if Kamala
38:49
Harris were president and Bibi Netanyahu came
38:51
to her and said, hey, I'm thinking of going after
38:54
Iran. Want to come along for the ride? I think
38:56
there's a good chance she would have said yes.
38:58
Yeah, I don't have an answer to that one. I feel
39:01
like she was going to start a nuclear war with
39:03
Russia, frankly. If anything, what would happen
39:08
is that the Democrats might try to ramp the war
39:11
down with Iran. And then double down on the war
39:14
against Russia. Because for whatever reason,
39:16
the Democrats have got a hard-on against the
39:19
Russians. They want dead Russians. They want
39:21
that war. Why it is, I don't know. And in this
39:25
respect, they are just like Donald Trump. Because
39:27
Donald Trump thinks he can beat Iran. And Democrats
39:30
think they can beat Russia. And those statements
39:33
are both equally untrue. Yeah, both are delusional.
39:36
Both are delusional and wasting American money
39:38
to do it, wasting American lives in the case
39:41
of Ukraine – I mean in the case of Iran. And
39:43
then for Trump to call those soldiers small potatoes.
39:46
Shit like that is – it's like you get these people
39:50
killed, and your response, oh, they're small
39:52
potatoes. Here's a question for you, JT. You
39:54
probably would be the right person to ask about
39:56
this. What do you think the odds are? That there's
40:00
some Wagner type, some Wagner instructors training
40:02
the Houthis on asymmetric warfare and how to
40:05
use these weapons. All of a sudden, they're getting
40:08
shoulder-fired missiles that can bring down
40:10
planes. I think they've done that before. I do
40:13
think they're running, but I don't know about
40:14
the Russians. The Russians aren't a resistance
40:19
actor in that case, which is why many people
40:22
are pissed off at the Russians in the Middle
40:25
East. Well, it's not resistance. I've had people
40:28
leave my show over shit like that, over this
40:31
conversation. No, I get it. But I mean, the United
40:34
States is at war with you. So it's not them helping
40:37
the Houthis on the kindness of their heart. It's
40:39
them opening up another front of irregular warfare,
40:43
asymmetric war against the American empire. They
40:45
have Iran. They can give Iran also its targeting
40:48
data, satellite data, all sorts of shit. But
40:51
geography helps the Houthis. So Russia could
40:55
be playing both places. They could be helping
40:57
both of them. Who knows? That would not surprise
40:59
me. Look, we've seen what Russia has done in
41:02
the Sahel, right? At this point, they're trying
41:06
to keep as small a footprint as possible, stay
41:09
focused on Ukraine. They're trying not to get
41:11
distracted overseas. And they're trying to outsource
41:14
as much of the other overseas stuff to Wagner
41:17
and other organizations. They're trying not to
41:21
do it directly. I mean, I don't entirely agree
41:27
with it. I think you can walk and chew gum at
41:29
the same time. But that's Putin's caution. He's
41:34
too gentle. Putin is too gentle. What do you
41:36
mean gentle? He's too gentle. He's too gentle.
41:38
There's only 2 million dead Ukrainians. I would
41:42
disagree with you on the gentle part. Well, the
41:44
reason why there's 2 million dead Ukrainians
41:47
is because he keeps dragging this war on instead
41:49
of putting it to bed three years ago like he
41:51
very well could have done. I don't think he had
41:54
the power to do that three years ago. I know
41:57
they would never say that, but, I mean, they
41:59
had 150,000 men against, like, 500,000 men.
42:03
Yeah, they weren't conscripting that many guys.
42:07
This has also turned out to be a drone war, and
42:11
having more men is not really what you need.
42:13
You need more drone technology and anti-drone
42:16
technology and more drone operators. I think
42:20
it's a training issue. I think in terms of getting
42:22
up to speed. This is the first true widespread
42:26
drone war that we've ever seen. Oh, for sure.
42:29
They're making doctrine. They're literally making
42:31
doctrine as we speak. Yeah. I don't know. I mean,
42:35
men... This is what war will look like for the
42:37
next few decades. Yeah, until they come up with
42:40
some kind of anti-drone defense. Sure. But the
42:43
reality of it is Ukraine is running out of men.
42:46
And they went with this idea that you can have
42:47
drones instead of men. And that idea has been
42:49
found. Russia has men, but it needs them trained
42:53
properly. And that takes time. Speaking of men,
42:56
have y'all seen Trump's brand new Truth Social
42:58
he just dropped? No. God help us all. What now?
43:04
Canada is destroying itself by allowing millions
43:07
and millions of people into the country, essentially
43:09
unchecked and unvetted, who are causing problems
43:12
that will soon be too big to handle. It is a
43:14
liberal takeover. That will end very badly. Already
43:17
showing up in their numbers. Big unemployment.
43:20
Oh, Canada. President J.D.J.T. He's such a
43:24
clown. What is he even talking about? I mean,
43:28
they do have a relatively they have a relatively
43:31
liberal immigration policy. But have you ever
43:33
flown across Canada? Like they've got the room.
43:37
OK, I mean, they need population. That's like
43:40
they're that's why they have a liberal immigration
43:42
policy. Yeah, they're a huge population. I mean,
43:45
they're a huge country. I mean, Carney is right.
43:49
Like, regardless of what happened. And honestly,
43:52
the thing with Greenland is an exact, is a good
43:55
example of why Carney is right. The moment that
43:59
the bully is like, hey, can you give me a dollar?
44:01
The next thing that he's saying, can I get two?
44:03
Can I get five? Yeah, you got to shove that dollar
44:05
up his ass. Yeah. Yes, you got to hit him in
44:07
the throat hard. And when he's choking on the
44:11
ground, stomp his throat as hard as you possibly
44:14
can. Agreed, agreed. The reality of it is, Europe,
44:17
as they kept giving Trump stuff, he just kept
44:20
taking more. And when he's threatening Greenland,
44:23
oh, I'm going to take Greenland one way or the
44:24
other. Okay, this is the same mob tactics that
44:26
he's effectively used in every other context,
44:28
with Ukraine telling him, I mean, Iran telling
44:31
him to F off and effectively going to war. But
44:33
there was no way to make a deal with Trump, even
44:35
in that context, meaning even if Iran wanted
44:37
to deal, which they did want to do, there was
44:39
no way to make it with Donald Trump. And the
44:41
same thing is true for Europe. The same thing
44:43
is true for Greenland. Greenland believes they
44:44
have a deal. Trump could come back tomorrow and
44:45
be like, by the way, I interpret it this way.
44:48
Oh, yeah, totally. I mean, yeah, you can't. Like,
44:51
I think it was Mark Carney who said that Trump,
44:54
the US signs all of its agreements in pencil,
44:56
a light pencil. We have some comments we should
45:00
do. And by the way, just a reminder, if you were
45:03
not here at the top of the hour. This is the
45:05
first week that we're on the new schedule, expanded.
45:08
So Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and today is Wednesday.
45:11
We go from 9 to 11. That's two full hours instead
45:14
of one. Tuesday and Thursday is the way it used
45:16
to be, from 9 to 10 a.m. So today, if you have
45:21
questions, put them in any time. But we definitely
45:24
are more free form in the second hour, starting
45:26
at 10 Eastern. Some comments. Math36, has anyone
45:31
heard about the trucker strike October 1st? I
45:35
had good heard. Oh yeah. Well they need to. In a
45:38
way they have to go on strike, right, because they
45:40
can't afford to run their trucks. So I mean it's
45:44
kind of like strike or is just out of gas. Is
45:47
there a difference? I'm not celebrating the fact
45:49
that they're running out of gas so they're having
45:50
difficulties. What I'm celebrating is an end to
45:53
apathy. No, I love truckers. I mean, look, they're
45:56
awesome people and they're doing the most important
46:01
work in this country. I mean, every CEO could
46:04
fail to show up to work for the next year and
46:06
nothing would fucking happen. Every member of
46:08
Congress could fail to show up to work for the
46:10
next year. Nothing would happen. You lose 25
46:13
% of the truckers, the country collapses. Like,
46:18
no, they're incredibly important people and doing
46:21
a really hard job for not nearly enough money.
46:24
And we all owe them a massive debt of gratitude.
46:28
And this country just fucked them over royally.
46:30
Yeah. And like the point is, look, I mean, look,
46:33
if we were serious about supporting them,
46:35
the government could easily say, listen,
46:37
don't worry, we got your back. Like,
46:40
we'll give you gas subsidies. Every trucker
46:44
who buys gas at a truck stop is going to get,
46:47
their gas is half off and you send
46:51
the rest of the bill to Uncle Sam and Uncle Sam
46:53
pays. That would push prices up even higher,
46:57
though. Because the problem is supply versus
47:00
demand. Yeah, the problem is inventory. Yeah,
47:02
but you're going to end up with a COVID-type
47:05
situation where you have supply chain
47:07
fuck-ups within the continental U.S. You can't
47:10
have that. But here's the issue, though. That's
47:12
going to lead to a depression. I mean, then,
47:13
like, if there's nothing, no stock on the shelves,
47:16
there's nothing to sell. Stores are going to
47:19
go out of business. I mean, people are going
47:21
to lose their jobs. Nobody told the U.S. to
47:23
go into a war. Two-thirds of the U.S. economy
47:26
is consumerism. We've got to keep the consumer
47:28
goods flowing. But here's the issue. Yeah, but
47:30
nobody told the U.S. to go into a war. I mean,
47:32
look, you can have one or the other. You can
47:33
have the war. But you got to go without your
47:36
diesel. But JT, you just said yourself there's
47:38
not going to be a deal, right? So I'm just saying,
47:41
given that there's not going to be a deal, this
47:42
is how they should deal with it. They're not
47:45
going to. But they don't have the inventory.
47:46
Because it's under capitalism. The doctrine is
47:49
sucks to be you, right? Here's the issue, though.
47:52
If you give the truckers a voucher like this,
47:56
then what's going to happen is, again, I live
47:59
out here in the middle of nowhere. I live in
48:00
ranch country. The ranchers cannot drive their
48:03
tractors. They can't. I'd make the same offer
48:07
to the farmers. Where are you going to get the
48:09
diesel at? Where are you going to get the diesel
48:11
at? I can give you an 80% discount off of nothing.
48:16
You still have nothing. Just to be clear, the
48:18
reason that the price is going up is because
48:19
the supply has gone low. So it's kind of like
48:24
the missile thing. If you live in Los Angeles,
48:26
you can take the bus. Okay, you can get them
48:28
in 2030. Same thing with the gas. I mean, and
48:31
even somebody made the point of saying, well,
48:33
the U.S. should put an export ban on diesel.
48:38
And someone else kind of pointed out, it's like,
48:39
but you make diesel from crude. And do you really
48:43
believe that if the United States is hoarding
48:45
diesel, that anybody is going to give it crude
48:47
in order to make the diesel in the first place?
48:49
Like, it's a calamity. Yeah, it is. I agree with
48:54
your premise. It's like, look, well, you need
48:56
to give them subsidies, just like you did farmers.
48:58
Trump gave farmers subsidies because he screwed
49:01
up the soybean trade with China. Because it's
49:03
an essential service. Yeah. Yeah. But if you
49:05
don't have it, I mean, this goes back to wartime.
49:07
Right. You don't have it. You can't give it.
49:09
Right. No, I hear you. You can't give it. No,
49:10
you're 100% right. And by the way, they used
49:13
to have food vouchers and all sorts of shit because
49:14
they were rationing and whatnot. Can you see
49:17
this administration saying, hey, because of the
49:19
war. We need to ration so-and-so and so-and-so.
49:21
Well, I hope the truckers go on strike,
49:23
and I hope they do it soon. October 1st is only
49:26
in a week, but it's not soon enough. Because,
49:29
I mean, someone's got to take a two-by-four
49:32
and whack these assholes on the side of the head,
49:35
right? I mean, wake them up. Daniel BTS, the
49:39
GOP-er in Miami, Maria Elvira Salazar, has been
49:43
bashing Trump on immigration. LOL, desperation
49:46
mode. Yeah, I've seen that. Two dollars from
49:49
P.W. Walker. Voting blue won't save you. No,
49:53
it never does. Let's see. I mean, you can vote
49:59
blue if you want Trump impeached, but you're
50:01
not getting anything else. The sooner the better.
50:05
Andre420, I heard Brazilian beef is coming into
50:07
America as well. That got refused by Mexico,
50:11
LOL. When I was in Brazil, the beef, I thought
50:15
their food was fantastic. It has a good rep.
50:19
Daniel BTS, I'm not convinced both parties still
50:22
want, sorry, I'm not convinced, comma, both parties
50:25
still want a strategic relationship with Israel
50:27
and are hoping voters forget about this issue
50:29
like they usually do with everything. Sure, but
50:33
this time is this time is different. I don't know.
50:36
For the leadership I don't think it's different.
50:40
I agree with you that the coming generation is
50:43
going to be hardcore in regards to their point
50:45
of view of Israel being a genocidal state. But
50:48
the leadership that is paid handsomely by those
50:51
same people, I don't think they're on the same
50:53
page. They may talk a game in order to kind of
50:56
talk around it. Like when Macron was at the UN
50:57
grandstanding about the West Bank and said, there
51:01
is no home house in West Bank. He accepts the
51:04
genocide. He takes issue with West Bank, right?
51:07
Like, okay, you grandstand like that and you
51:09
can try to get a clip out of that. But obviously
51:12
he's still on board for Israel. And even when
51:15
Hillary Clinton talks about it, he talks about
51:16
it as Netanyahu's issue. But everything's always
51:18
the way it always has been until it isn't, right?
51:21
I mean, so Mike Hawk, how is America doing trade
51:25
when half the world we can't trade with? Free
51:27
markets, my ass. Europe. Yeah, yeah. Peter, I,
51:33
two bucks, something like a million dollars a
51:36
day, sorry, a million barrels a day of diesel
51:39
are being exported from the US. And thanks for
51:42
the donation. Abdul Kidd, thanks for the $5.
51:46
The assumption that Trump's trying to preserve
51:49
the U.S. empire is as faulty as believing he
51:52
had anything to do with writing the U.N. speech
51:54
he could barely read. The goal is to destroy
51:57
the U.S. economy. Well, I'm sure Trump probably
52:02
did have a lot to do with the content of that
52:05
speech, because you can tell some of it he's
52:07
going off script, right? He does that a lot.
52:10
But I take the broader point. I don't know if
52:14
the goal is to destroy the U.S. economy. Yeah,
52:16
Alexander makes that argument that the goal is
52:18
to destroy the U.S. economy. I don't think that's
52:20
the goal. If I'm being honest with you, I think
52:22
the goal is to destroy every other economy. Yes.
52:25
If you're looking at what... But in an interconnected
52:27
world, you take yourself out when you do that.
52:30
Well, I think they're looking at it like they
52:32
were doing in the Second World War. Okay, well,
52:35
all of these other countries are involved in
52:36
war, so we ourselves are going to be prosperous
52:38
as a result of them destroying themselves, even
52:40
if we're the last ant on the anthill and everything
52:42
else is in flames. Chaos is a ladder to take
52:45
the Game of Thrones thing. Europe can fight Russia.
52:49
Okay, what's going to happen in the context of
52:50
that war? We're going to be able to sell them
52:52
weapons and whatnot, especially if we stay out
52:53
of it. We may do something with China in regards
52:57
to some kind of economic warfare. Israel is going
52:59
to go after Iran. Okay, none of this stuff worked
53:01
in reality, right? Europe and the Russia thing,
53:04
that may work, but the United States was embroiled
53:08
in a war which I don't know if they had planned
53:09
on being in short of Israel being in that war.
53:11
So I don't know, but either way I don't think
53:14
the goal is to destroy the U.S. economy. I think
53:15
he's just incompetent. Yeah. By the way, just a reminder,
53:19
sorry Robby, just a reminder, please do subscribe
53:21
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shows, $10 for credits at the end, $20 for very
53:32
exclusive content. Robby, go ahead. Do y'all
53:36
think it would be in the interests of a corrupt
53:39
American government to have a population of renters
53:43
versus a population of owners? They would prefer
53:46
renters. They would prefer renters, but owners
53:48
would be better overall. Well, because if you
53:51
want your population to be renters, Breaking
53:54
the current economy would be how you make it
53:56
happen. Well, that's the movement, that's the
53:58
direction they're going, but I agree it's motivated
54:01
by incompetence. But maybe the motivation doesn't
54:04
matter, but that's the direction we're going.
54:05
They just want to make profit. I mean, it's a
54:07
capitalistic system. Short-term profit. Right,
54:10
but the current is always going in one direction.
54:15
It may go faster or slower, but it's going in
54:17
one direction. However, they start with, okay,
54:21
we're going to have this capitalism, schoolboy
54:24
capitalism, everybody's going to profit, the
54:26
American worker's doing great, wages are going
54:28
up, everybody's doing great. But at some point,
54:31
they're going to go beyond that notion of, hey,
54:34
I can make even more if I do this. I can make
54:36
even more if I do this. In which case, you inch
54:39
your way to the economy that you have now. Yeah,
54:41
they would prefer renters. If you're looking
54:43
for what's best for a country and a society,
54:45
homeowners. You want people to own. You want
54:47
people to have a space that they live in. And
54:49
feel vested. Yeah. As opposed to this continuous
54:52
hamster wheel of paying a rent for something
54:55
that you would never own. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's
54:58
profit. You make more profit from continuously
55:02
getting the money from people. Totally. And people
55:04
being completely insecure. All right. So let's
55:07
switch gears a little bit. So down there in,
55:12
I guess, in Austin, Texas. There was a DoorDash
55:16
delivery guy named Wilber Perez, 28 years old.
55:20
Obviously, he's just doing his job by all accounts.
55:22
No criminal record whatsoever. He's delivering
55:26
food. And suddenly, he's basically sideswiped
55:31
by an unmarked car. He naturally assumes he's
55:36
being assaulted by gangsters or something.
55:41
That's what I would think. And anyway turned
55:45
out of course it was ICE. He attempted,
55:48
so when he realized that it might be ICE he attempted
55:51
to make a U-turn to try to pull over. At this
55:54
point the ICE guy gets out who's
55:59
a wet behind the ears inexperienced
56:01
new recruit, gets out of his SUV unmarked and
56:06
shoots. So I should say Garcés Perez. He shoots
56:14
him. He's 28 years old. Fortunately, he survived,
56:17
so he's able to talk about it. All ICE goons
56:22
are supposed to have body cameras at this point.
56:26
This guy had one, but it was not on during this
56:30
incident. I call on that. I call it was probably
56:34
on but they lost, ICE lost the tape. I'm going to
56:37
guess here because it doesn't make them look
56:40
good. This is just, I know it's not like really new but it's notable.
56:44
We have to take note of these things every time
56:47
they happen until they stop happening, right? I
56:49
mean it's cowboys and there's something inherently
56:52
wrong with this idea of I would rather him be
56:55
dead than get away. There's no evidence of a criminal
56:57
record. It's no evidence that the guy is doing
57:01
anything wrong per se. He's delivering food. Yeah,
57:04
he's just delivering food. So you caught a guy
57:07
who's delivering food and your response is he's
57:09
a criminal and so I need to kill him. Okay. Maybe
57:12
it's like meaning they would prefer him dead
57:16
as opposed to him escaping which is wow. Yeah.
57:19
I mean let's put this into
57:22
perspective. If he was a, like he had held up a
57:24
liquor store and the local Austin PD were chasing
57:28
him, it would be inappropriate for them to behave
57:31
exactly the same way, to hit his car, imperil
57:34
other motorists, and shoot him. Even though he
57:38
just was an armed robber, local PD probably wouldn't
57:41
handle it that way. And this guy, at most, they
57:44
were worried about his immigration status. That's
57:50
it, which is not even a misdemeanor. And mind
57:52
you, he has already been in the country. It's
57:56
an administrative offense, right? It's not like
57:58
he's breaking into the country. He's committing
58:01
some violent crime that we need to stop him from.
58:03
It's like hunting out of season or something.
58:06
I mean, it's not a major crime. It's weird. I
58:08
don't want him to get away, so I'm going to take
58:12
a shot at him with my gun. He's like, what? I
58:14
got to say, honestly, this shit's not going to
58:16
stop until a couple of ICE guys get killed. Then
58:18
it's going to stop. Because, basically,
58:22
the ICE guys are imperiling themselves. I mean,
58:25
look, this is America. People have weapons.
58:29
We're rugged individualists. We have the
58:32
right to self-defense in all 50 states.
58:34
It's like, if I can go to a judge and credibly
58:37
convince a jury, look. I was driving, minding
58:41
my business. I was delivering food. I was delivering
58:45
food. And this maniac in an unmarked car, not
58:49
wearing a uniform, not presenting ID, hit my
58:53
car. I felt scared. So I availed myself of my
58:56
Second Amendment solutions and I popped the fucker.
59:00
I guarantee you that most jurors from far left
59:04
to far right are going to be like, yeah, I probably
59:07
would have done the same thing. He didn't know
59:09
who the guy was. It's not like he was identified
59:12
as a cop. Right, right. I mean, you're totally
59:14
within your rights to do that. Yeah, they're
59:18
fair game. I mean, they're fair game. I mean,
59:21
you're running up on people unmarked, unidentified,
59:23
wearing ski masks. What do you think that they're
59:25
going to do? Who does that? Who does that? I
59:29
actually agree with you. It's like showing who
59:33
your face is because you know you're goons and
59:35
just like other goons in other oppressive states.
59:37
You know, the same fate. Well, I'm not going
59:40
to say the same fate awaits. But I guess my point
59:44
is, like, they know what they're doing. They
59:45
know their sins, which is the reason why they're
59:48
not showing their face. But either way, I don't
59:50
know who you are. And if I have a weapon and
59:52
I think I'm under attack, I have every right
59:54
for self-defense. Every right. I agree with
59:56
both of you. It's outrageous. Like, the idea
59:59
that you have the Stasi force all throughout
1:00:02
the states that are just rounding up people,
1:00:05
some of these people being Americans by the way.
1:00:07
They held up two Americans recently. I'm a little
1:00:09
ashamed of my fellow Americans, many of whom are
1:00:12
armed and well trained in the use of a weapon,
1:00:15
have not defended themselves against these kind
1:00:17
of assaults. And there have been, by the way, fake
1:00:20
ICE goons who have kidnapped and raped women.
1:00:23
Like basically like look I have a ski mask.
1:00:27
I'm an ICE officer. Yeah that's outrageous.
1:00:30
I mean, it's just outrageous. That should not
1:00:34
be legal. If this guy was really, if it was illegal,
1:00:36
and I have no idea if it was or not, they could
1:00:40
have just caught him at the end of his shift
1:00:41
and said, okay, come on with us. Yes. You have
1:00:43
to go home. Walk up to him like a normal person
1:00:45
and be like, excuse me, sir, can we talk to you?
1:00:49
So this is another example of Trump doing the
1:00:52
right thing the wrong way. So being an illegal
1:00:54
immigrant is not a death sentence. You should
1:00:58
go home. You shouldn't be sent to the next world.
1:01:00
I mean, those are two very different things.
1:01:04
Outrageous. Like, imagine someone getting a parking
1:01:06
ticket and a cop shoots them because they think
1:01:08
he's walking away. It's so fucking unprofessional.
1:01:11
I mean, in LA, they used to have these, like,
1:01:13
crazy high-speed chases all the time with the
1:01:16
LAPD. And they used to call them the ghetto birds,
1:01:18
the helicopters following them. And then even
1:01:21
the crazy-ass, heavily militarized LAPD that
1:01:24
gave the world the SWAT team decided at a certain
1:01:28
point that they were imperiling public
1:01:31
safety. And it's like, you know what? Like sometimes
1:01:34
dude's going to be getting away and that's okay.
1:01:38
And other times we can see him from
1:01:40
the air and we can like set out a
1:01:43
nail strip and catch them later.
1:01:46
Do it as safely as possible. It's just
1:01:49
not worth it. Right. I mean, they're having gunfights
1:01:53
in the middle of the street. It's not even gunfight.
1:01:56
They're just shooting in the middle of the street.
1:01:58
I mean, it's like these guys are reinventing
1:01:59
the wheels when it comes to law enforcement.
1:02:03
I mean, American cops have hundreds
1:02:05
of years of experience. They know what works
1:02:07
and what doesn't work. It's like, why not talk
1:02:09
to people who are professionals and know what
1:02:11
the fuck they're doing? This doesn't seem like
1:02:13
a law enforcement. This seems like something
1:02:15
else. Yeah. Law enforcement is different, at
1:02:16
least in my mind. It's not running up on people
1:02:20
unmarked and snatching them off the streets.
1:02:23
And I want to reemphasize, this is dangerous
1:02:25
for ICE. Like they are endangering themselves.
1:02:28
These tactics are bad for them.
1:02:32
And it's going to happen. I mean, I'm surprised
1:02:37
that they haven't been popped yet. Yeah. Yeah.
1:02:40
It will happen. You will get no tears from my
1:02:43
side on this. No, I mean, I might privately be
1:02:47
laughing a little bit. I might not be privately
1:02:50
laughing a little bit, but I mean, it's certainly
1:02:53
like when it happens, it's not going to be surprising.
1:02:56
I mean, I don't want to see anyone lose their
1:02:59
life, really, truly. Well, there's a few people
1:03:00
who I wouldn't mind seeing. There are a few people.
1:03:03
There's a few people. By the way, did you see
1:03:06
the story on AOC considering running for the
1:03:10
presidency? No. What's the latest? It's the New
1:03:12
York Times, and they come out with this big editorial,
1:03:17
Ocasio-Cortez 2028, quote, life doesn't wait
1:03:20
for you to be ready, unquote. Oh, this is an
1:03:25
editorial. Yeah, this is editorial. Well, it's
1:03:27
an interview, I think. It's an interview. It's
1:03:31
a wide-ranging interview. The New York Times,
1:03:33
the New York Congresswoman offered the most detailed
1:03:34
insight into her thinking about a possible presidential
1:03:38
run. And her thing is basically, like, look,
1:03:41
I'm thinking about 2028 as a presidential run.
1:03:44
She made the point of saying she's even thinking
1:03:48
about a Senate run against Chuck Schumer. And
1:03:50
her concern was like, if you do a - Well, a Senate
1:03:52
run makes sense for her. That's what I thought,
1:03:54
too. A Senate run makes sense. Presidential run,
1:03:56
less so. No. But a Senate run makes sense. I
1:03:59
mean, why do you think, I'll tell you why I don't,
1:04:01
but why do you think it doesn't make sense for
1:04:04
her yet? The presidential run? I don't think
1:04:05
she is, I don't think she's great for presidency.
1:04:10
For some reason. In general or now? But there's
1:04:15
something about her that doesn't quite. She's
1:04:20
not presidential timber. Yeah. But she doesn't
1:04:22
look presidential timber. No, she doesn't. I
1:04:25
mean, look, the first part is constitutionally,
1:04:29
she's barely qualified to run for president,
1:04:32
right? She's 36 years old. She'll be 38 during
1:04:34
the election. I think William Jennings Bryan
1:04:38
ran for the first time in 1896 against McKinley
1:04:43
at the age of 36. I think he's the youngest person.
1:04:48
Ever elected. It was a surprise nomination. He
1:04:52
gave a very famous speech at the Democratic National
1:04:56
Convention. You will not crucify us on a cross
1:05:00
of gold or force us to wear a crown of thorns.
1:05:04
And this was the crown of thorns speech that
1:05:11
was about a controversy that is now
1:05:14
forgotten about bimetallism. Like whether the
1:05:17
U.S. should go off the gold standard or supplement
1:05:21
it with the silver standard, which was viewed
1:05:25
as the more populist working class approach to
1:05:28
monetary policy. But William Jennings Bryan was
1:05:31
a colossus intellectually and as an orator. And
1:05:35
that's why the convention just went crazy and
1:05:40
was like they elected, they nominated him by
1:05:42
popular acclamation. He went on to run, I think,
1:05:44
a total of four times. But, and it's funny to
1:05:47
me that he's forgotten now because he was such
1:05:51
an important figure that defined American politics
1:05:53
for 25 years. But the Scopes Monkey
1:05:56
Trial, he was one of the lawyers in that case
1:06:00
and he died like right afterwards. Reap the whirlwind,
1:06:06
that's him. But she's no William Jennings Bryan.
1:06:09
I think she... She doesn't have it right now.
1:06:13
She doesn't have what it takes to be taken seriously.
1:06:18
She doesn't have the gravitas. She doesn't have
1:06:22
the accomplishments, right? She can't say. And
1:06:24
she doesn't have the... Obama was viewed as someone
1:06:28
who had amazing oratorical skills. She doesn't.
1:06:33
And he was viewed as having tremendous potential.
1:06:37
Like this was a guy who was like holy that
1:06:40
the world is his oyster. Anything's possible.
1:06:43
I don't think she's viewed that way and I think
1:06:46
there will be a president, there will be a
1:06:50
first woman president. It's 200 plus years overdue
1:06:53
but I just, I'm not sure it's going to be her.
1:06:57
But I could see her being a veep in eight years.
1:06:59
I could see that. Yeah. I'm skeptical of a presidency
1:07:02
thing for some reason. I don't quite like I can't
1:07:05
all your reasons. I accept all your reasons. That's
1:07:07
true. And presidents, there's something about
1:07:10
them that is different. Yeah. It's this sort
1:07:16
of intangible thing. And sometimes people grow
1:07:19
into it. Like I would have said four years ago
1:07:22
that J.D. Vance didn't have it. I think he does
1:07:26
now. Barely. Yeah. I think he's grown into it
1:07:28
a little bit. No. No. I'm not talking about politically
1:07:33
or anything like that. I just mean in terms of
1:07:40
could you imagine that guy giving a speech from
1:07:41
the Oval Office? Could you see that guy shaking
1:07:47
hands with Keir Starmer? If Trump can do it,
1:07:50
anybody can do it. If Trump can do it. But he
1:07:53
can't. Well, Trump does have it. He has it in
1:07:56
a weird way. Here's what AOC has going for her.
1:08:00
She's young, she's Latina, she's attractive and
1:08:04
she has an Instagram account. She has a follower.
1:08:08
She's probably the first member of Congress, maybe
1:08:10
the only one that you could rightly call an influencer.
1:08:12
So she's very relatable especially to women voters.
1:08:14
So I mean she, I can't think of another member
1:08:17
of Congress that goes on there on Instagram and
1:08:20
puts up makeup on her face while she's talking
1:08:22
to her people. That's what she does. Instagram
1:08:24
for her is what Twitter used to be for Trump.
1:08:27
She is relatable. That's what she has going for.
1:08:29
Do you remember Beto O'Rourke? Beto O'Rourke
1:08:33
following AOC's thing of just like cooking and
1:08:38
doing Instagram, putting on makeup, doing Instagram
1:08:41
and talk to the audience. He does a dental visit.
1:08:43
Did you remember this? Yeah, he went and
1:08:46
did a dental visit online on like Instagram. It
1:08:49
was the weirdest thing in the world, right, because
1:08:53
you can't talk because the dentist is in your
1:08:55
mouth and it's like oh why are you doing this.
1:08:57
He was trying to glam on to what AOC was doing.
1:09:00
Yeah but he couldn't do it. My take on it because
1:09:03
he weren't doing those videos before. Oh for sure.
1:09:05
I mean that's what it is and listen I agree with
1:09:08
you. I don't think that she would ever get elected
1:09:10
not to the presidency. I think that going for
1:09:12
the Senate in New York makes a lot of sense for
1:09:15
her. As far as where she goes from there I don't
1:09:17
know because I don't know how serious she could
1:09:22
be taken as a head of state whenever – She would
1:09:24
have to get some shit done in the Senate more
1:09:27
than Hillary did with the only bills that Hillary
1:09:29
ever – The Congress doesn't do anything. There's
1:09:33
no shit to get – When Hillary was a senator,
1:09:34
she only had like four bills with her names on
1:09:36
it, all for renaming post offices. But the Congress
1:09:38
doesn't do anything. That's the problem. Her
1:09:42
husband was her credentials. I mean, it's the
1:09:44
epitome of the dead end, show up for work job
1:09:48
and get paid because Congress does nothing. Well,
1:09:51
that's true. I mean, she could look, the thing
1:09:55
is like the Bernie Sanders thing where
1:09:58
he was the long struggling socialist outsider
1:10:02
who kind of the conscience of the left kind of
1:10:04
taking over the Ted Kennedy role. That, I don't
1:10:08
know if she can fill that spot. I don't feel
1:10:12
that from her. I mean, Sanders had been doing
1:10:15
it for like 20, 30 years in the wilderness. Yeah.
1:10:17
That's why he had credentials. Yeah. Exactly.
1:10:19
Yeah. He had credibility. I've been fighting
1:10:22
this for 30 years. So now this is my moment.
1:10:26
I was doing this shit when Reagan was president.
1:10:28
Yeah. Yeah. And I never deviated. I was the same
1:10:30
person. Yeah. AOC doesn't. No, she doesn't. And
1:10:33
I've seen her flip on the Israel thing. Anyway.
1:10:37
Yeah. I mean she was hardcore before she got
1:10:39
elected and when she got elected it moderated
1:10:41
heavily and I saw her in an interview with
1:10:43
William F. Buckley's, oh, the Firing Line. I don't
1:10:45
think she can pass the stress the stress test
1:10:49
either. I mean she's not good in an interview.
1:10:51
I can't imagine her in a debate. Holy. A very attractive
1:10:53
woman asked her what do you mean by occupied
1:10:56
and she lost. She just fell apart. She fell apart.
1:10:59
She was and she froze. She didn't know what
1:11:03
to do. Yeah and it's like oh that's pathetic. That's
1:11:07
pathetic. It's not good. Yeah. I mean say what you
1:11:12
want about Donald Trump he doesn't fail those
1:11:14
kind of tests. Anything at any particular
1:11:16
moment. Yeah no I mean so I mean I think she can
1:11:20
she has. Oh I mean I think Chuck Schumer would
1:11:23
have to step aside. I don't think she would
1:11:30
prime. Well could she primary him? Yeah.
1:11:33
Well, she's talking about primarying him. I'd
1:11:36
vote for her over Chuck Schumer. Yeah. Because,
1:11:38
I mean, Chuck Schumer is like, he's well past
1:11:42
his expiration date, I mean, for a
1:11:44
variety of reasons. It's not even, even if I
1:11:47
didn't hate his politics, which I do, it's just like, yeah. I mean, the dark
1:11:50
horse candidate that people aren't talking about
1:11:53
for 2028 is New York Governor Kathy Hochul.
1:11:56
I don't like her. But people are, but she,
1:11:57
She's more central casting. Like she's like the
1:12:01
kind of, in a sci-fi film or
1:12:05
TV show, you can imagine her as like
1:12:08
Madam President. You're like, yeah, I can see
1:12:12
that. And I think that's a lot of the way Americans
1:12:16
cast their presidents. Like, can I see this person
1:12:18
in my TV box? Can I see that head floating
1:12:20
there next to an American flag? And I think you
1:12:23
could. Well, I just kind of assumed that every
1:12:28
president would be black after Obama. I was shocked
1:12:31
when Trump was like, holy shit, he's not black.
1:12:34
He's the whitest of all white guys. Right, right.
1:12:40
Yeah, he's just certainly, he's not that guy
1:12:42
that you're going to discover like, oh, and I
1:12:46
did 23andMe and I discovered that I'm
1:12:50
part Somali. Like, no, that's not, that's not.
1:12:52
I mean, maybe Kathy Hochul. I like, I gotta be
1:12:56
honest. I don't know who's on the Democrats bench.
1:12:59
I know you think Buttigieg. Oh yeah. I'm on,
1:13:00
I'm not on team Buttigieg, but I'm on team thinking
1:13:04
Buttigieg is the man to beat. Yeah. Yeah. Let's
1:13:05
see right now. Let's do some comments. And just
1:13:09
a reminder, we're now in the second hour. We
1:13:12
go 9 to 11 on Wednesdays and Fridays and Mondays.
1:13:16
So I don't know why I put that in that weird
1:13:21
order. But anyway, so if you have a question,
1:13:22
comment, whatever, please go ahead and tell us.
1:13:26
This hour is more about you guys than it is about
1:13:28
us. So suggestion for two guests to interview
1:13:31
from Kilroy, and thanks for the dono, Zachary
1:13:33
Fowler talks about the economy and JD Opdyke
1:13:37
of Global Intelligence Letter. I don't know either
1:13:41
of those people. Nor do I. So Zachary F-O-U-S-T
1:13:44
and Jeff D, this is a name I have to admit
1:13:48
I have no idea, maybe Dutch, O-P-D-Y-K-E
1:13:52
of Global Intelligence Letter, which I assume
1:13:58
is a Substack of some sort but okay.
1:14:02
Anna Mandarake, did you guys see Jacob Rees-Mogg's
1:14:07
little speech about how war is coming, filthy
1:14:10
peasants need to join the army and many of them
1:14:14
might die, it's normal for them to die? Now I don't
1:14:18
even know whose speech. Jacob Rees,
1:14:22
R-E-E-S Mogg. I don't know what that is. I don't
1:14:24
know either. So I guess the answer to that question.
1:14:28
NATO's thing. I don't know if you saw NATO's video
1:14:32
they put out a propaganda video for white Europeans
1:14:35
to get ready to die for Ukraine. They seem very
1:14:37
happy to go running into the wood chipper. Yeah,
1:14:39
those are good times. That's how my great, I
1:14:42
guess it would be my great uncle died in, is
1:14:47
that right? Yeah, great uncle in World War I.
1:14:50
RoguebotMD, but Obama was horrible on foreign
1:14:53
policy too. He led us down the path to the Ukraine
1:14:58
conflict. I never said he was good. And just
1:15:00
turned the Middle East into a dumpster fire. I
1:15:04
never said he was good. I just say I assume there
1:15:07
will be a black president. It's so funny how people
1:15:09
interpret that, right? I remember giving
1:15:11
a speech one time in the '04 election and one
1:15:13
of the Q and A's someone asked me who I thought was
1:15:17
going to win and I said Bush and people booed
1:15:21
me and I'm like, you asked me who I thought
1:15:23
was going to win, not who I want to win, right?
1:15:26
And I said I wanted to win and also I'm not a
1:15:28
warlock. I don't make things happen.
1:15:32
No I never said Obama was good
1:15:35
on foreign policy. I wrote an entire
1:15:38
book about how Obama sucked. I remember I was
1:15:41
having a conversation with a guy and he said
1:15:44
you know I don't think Black Americans
1:15:47
were ready for a Black president and I remember
1:15:52
thinking about what he meant by that. His point was
1:15:54
this ability to hold a particular
1:15:56
president accountable became impossible because
1:15:59
Republicans were attacking the president. And
1:16:01
you didn't necessarily want to join in to some
1:16:04
of the racist shit they were saying, like the
1:16:06
eight pictures of what's-her-name that asked
1:16:08
for the birth certificate. All this shit is well
1:16:10
beyond the pale, right? No white president had
1:16:11
to show a birth certificate. It's beneath the
1:16:14
office. That should have disqualified Trump by
1:16:15
itself, but apparently America didn't care all
1:16:18
that much about it. I guess my point is, his
1:16:21
thing was, it is impossible to hold the first
1:16:24
Black president accountable, that Blacks if indeed
1:16:27
Republicans are doing racist about the president,
1:16:28
and he's right. Like nobody could say anything.
1:16:31
Like when you had like Cornel West or Jesse
1:16:34
Jackson. Jesse Jackson said a few things like
1:16:36
he's like I'm going to cut Obama's balls off. He's
1:16:40
been talking to Black people. He's got to cut
1:16:44
his balls off. I mean this is the same guy that
1:16:46
was crying on the White House lawn when
1:16:47
Obama got elected, right? Yeah. I don't know, man.
1:16:52
It became complicated. Cornel West was ostracized
1:16:54
because Cornel West was going after Obama full
1:16:56
bore. He didn't necessarily care that the other
1:16:59
people were going after him. But it made it complicated.
1:17:01
It made it complicated. For sure. Maybe, let's
1:17:04
see. Okay. About AOC, maybe Bluthfunk.
1:17:06
Please ask yourself if you'd say any of these things
1:17:08
about Trump. Well, you'd say different things
1:17:09
about Trump. I mean, before Trump ran and I was
1:17:14
being asked about his chances to run and whether
1:17:22
he'd be whether he could be elected president.
1:17:24
I definitely he had. First of
1:17:28
all, you couldn't say he was too young. That
1:17:30
certainly wasn't true. But I mean,
1:17:34
you could say. You could definitely say he, I
1:17:36
kept saying he had no political or military experience
1:17:37
whatsoever. And historically, that has always
1:17:40
been something that people wanted. He was also
1:17:42
rude, crude and socially unacceptable. And I
1:17:46
wasn't sure that the American people were ready
1:17:46
for a president who was basically a carnival
1:17:48
barker. No, I mean, I'd say different things
1:17:51
because AOC and Trump are just not at all the
1:17:54
same people. I mean, politically or temperamentally
1:17:58
or stylistically or generationally at all. So
1:18:00
no, I wouldn't. I don't mind the check in terms
1:18:03
of like, well, are you being sexist? But I also
1:18:05
think we have to, look, to be clear here, there's
1:18:08
any number of women who I would happily have
1:18:13
voted for for president. Elizabeth Warren is
1:18:17
one of them, even though I have problems with
1:18:20
some things about her politics. But her, yeah,
1:18:25
she's a snake. It's true. And what she did to
1:18:28
Bernie and stuff. But the point is, there's definitely,
1:18:32
it's, I think it's, but I think more to the point,
1:18:34
when you acknowledge the fact that like women
1:18:36
face challenges in running for office that men
1:18:38
don't, and that the public isn't used to seeing
1:18:44
women in high positions of power in the same
1:18:47
way that even I know a lot of very well educated
1:18:49
smart women who say themselves they would not
1:18:53
vote for women. I'm reminded of Barbara Jordan
1:18:56
who always said that she was a famous Black congresswoman from Texas who
1:18:58
was famous during the Watergate hearings
1:19:01
and she said it was much harder to be a woman
1:19:05
politician than to be a Black politician in the
1:19:08
'70s, right? So I'm aware of all that but you
1:19:10
have to acknowledge that it's an
1:19:13
impediment. Like with Buttigieg, his
1:19:14
biggest impediment is the fact that he has
1:19:18
that he's gay, right, and so it's not homophobic
1:19:21
to point that out to say like the public would
1:19:24
have to get over that. I mean it's not an advantage.
1:19:27
It's maybe a slight advantage among the
1:19:32
Democratic leadership. I think they would
1:19:34
like that. But among the electorate in general
1:19:36
I think it's an impediment. I mean I did ask myself
1:19:40
was that being sexist. I think I even said it
1:19:43
openly like allowed like am I being sexist when
1:19:45
I'm thinking about this. Would you vote for
1:19:48
a 36-year-old dude with the same exact political
1:19:51
and life and history as AOC? And the answer is
1:19:53
no. No. I mean, if all things are being... I
1:19:56
don't have an issue voting for a woman. No. We're
1:19:59
way overdue. All things being equal, if it's
1:20:01
a man and a woman and they're identical, I will
1:20:03
vote for the woman just because it's time. Well,
1:20:06
I don't know about that. All things being equal.
1:20:10
All things being equal. I mean, all things being
1:20:14
equal. All things are never equal. Like all things
1:20:18
are never equal but if the guy likes Star Trek,
1:20:21
if the guy read, don't, I'm probably like if it's
1:20:23
something it could be something like it's like
1:20:25
okay I need to make a choice. Punk rocker I might
1:20:29
that might do something for me. It could just
1:20:31
be she's very attractive. I can see myself worshiping
1:20:34
her as God ever, right? It could be something silly.
1:20:38
If all things are being equal I don't think it's
1:20:40
bad to have an attractive president either. Oh,
1:20:42
that would be great. I mean, you have to see
1:20:44
them all the time. And also, frankly, people
1:20:49
who are more attractive are going to have better
1:20:50
luck in negotiations and get along better with
1:20:54
foreign leaders. Yeah. Yeah. John F. Kennedy,
1:20:58
right? Like Camelot. All that stuff. No, I wouldn't
1:21:01
have an issue. Robby, you are muted. Oh. I would
1:21:04
vote for the 36-year-old guy if he promised
1:21:06
to burn down the entire system that's screwing
1:21:11
us all because he's closer to it. For example,
1:21:13
the Democrat who's running here for the Congress
1:21:15
here in Montana, he's a smokejumper. He's a firefighter.
1:21:19
He's like, politics is never what I was planning
1:21:23
on doing, yet here we are. And so if we're able
1:21:28
to have a guy who's running for president, kind
1:21:31
of like what Trump was, only without the string
1:21:34
of bankruptcies and stuff, the system does not
1:21:37
work. These companies are making record profits.
1:21:39
They are screwing each and every single person
1:21:42
on earth, starting with the American people.
1:21:45
I want to burn it down completely and start over.
1:21:48
I would vote for him. What's your platform, sir?
1:21:50
Burn it down. Got my vote. Seriously, that would
1:21:52
be enough for me. The status quo does not work.
1:21:56
The burn it down thing, I'm fine with. I think
1:21:58
that's why a lot of people flock to Sanders and
1:22:00
Trump, ironically. Because both of them had that
1:22:04
energy of, we're having a political
1:22:08
revolution. We have to start from scratch here.
1:22:11
Yeah. The stuff is, we have to change
1:22:17
everything. Sanders didn't mean it. But you can't,
1:22:19
again, you can't vote your way out of a problem
1:22:22
like this. I mean, you can't vote your way into a revolution by definition. Yeah. Well,
1:22:24
right. It's a revolution. The entire point of
1:22:27
it is to overthrow the previous order. Right.
1:22:29
And that means the whole thing's got to go. I
1:22:31
mean, here's what I always ask people who say,
1:22:33
ooh, we shouldn't have a revolution. I'm
1:22:36
like, look. If you were starting if you were
1:22:38
at a constitutional convention and it was 1789
1:22:39
all over again would this be the system that
1:22:43
we created and the answer is no. Okay. I mean from
1:22:45
there would be no Electoral College. There
1:22:47
probably wouldn't be a Second Amendment. There's
1:22:49
a bunch of other stuff that we wouldn't do and we wouldn't have a two-party system. We'd
1:22:52
have a multi-party system because that's what
1:22:54
most Americans want, right? So
1:22:56
the fact is that we would be doing everything
1:22:59
differently in a really radical way. We'd have
1:23:03
a far more robust social safety net. So given
1:23:08
all that, OK, that's where we want to be. That's
1:23:11
where we would be if we had the chance. Well,
1:23:13
how do we get there? The only way we can get
1:23:16
there is through a revolution because the system
1:23:19
is not going to change itself into that now.
1:23:21
Yeah, but apathy. Like it's apathy. It's over
1:23:25
the top. Like when I was telling the story at
1:23:27
the earlier part of the show where - You don't
1:23:30
think it's just resignation? I think in some
1:23:34
part it's, I think part of it is people don't
1:23:38
know what's going on or they get snapshots. I
1:23:41
think the other part is, okay, well, even if
1:23:43
I accept what you say is true, how do I do anything
1:23:46
about it? Well, yeah. And I think that part is
1:23:48
the part that's killed. Yeah. And because there's
1:23:49
no organization that can help bring that about.
1:23:54
It's like somehow something has to come together.
1:23:57
If people weren't resigned, they'd be stupid.
1:23:59
They're right not to think that anything will
1:24:02
change because nothing is going to change until
1:24:06
there's some organization or something. I had
1:24:10
to go through a similar thing, right? It's like
1:24:13
you had all of these years, decades, hundreds
1:24:15
of years of slavery or Jim Crow, et cetera. And
1:24:17
then the catch becomes, okay, we need to mobilize
1:24:19
for the rights but everybody was in the same
1:24:22
situation. Okay, well what do you expect us to
1:24:24
do with that? It's always going to be this way.
1:24:27
Nothing is going to change et cetera et cetera
1:24:29
and then well then people started organizing.
1:24:30
They started organizing but the same thing has
1:24:34
to be true for this and it has to be less nebulous
1:24:36
as be this is what we are aiming for.
1:24:38
Yeah and I think that's the killer. That's the
1:24:41
hard part. Yeah that's all right. People would
1:24:44
agree with you that everything's up. How do you
1:24:47
change it? It's the part that creates inhibition
1:24:49
and I'm not going to say apathy in and of itself.
1:24:50
I mean we obviously I don't think people care
1:24:52
as well. Apathy implies that yeah people just
1:24:54
don't give a. Yeah I don't think they give a.
1:24:57
I don't think that's quite true. I think it's people
1:25:00
are they despair that a new world is possible.
1:25:03
Well and they care about their individual self
1:25:06
not beyond themselves. Well they have to I think,
1:25:09
JT, I think that you hit on it earlier. Because
1:25:12
remember you were talking about that lady who
1:25:14
was complaining about the cost of a Whopper?
1:25:17
Yeah. It's like, oh my God, gas is so high and
1:25:19
beef is so high. The Whopper is so expensive.
1:25:22
And it's like, hey. To have a self-governing
1:25:24
system of government, you've got to have some
1:25:26
buy-in from the population. You've got to pay
1:25:30
some attention to what's going on. If you are
1:25:34
too lazy to do a Google search and say what
1:25:38
exactly is this going on, if you're that checked out, if you're that removed, a representative
1:25:40
system of government cannot work by definition. I
1:25:42
don't know how many people care. I mean we in
1:25:43
a representative government we effectively
1:25:45
tell people just sit down, vote and everything
1:25:48
will be great. That's kind of the way we explain.
1:25:48
We take it from here. Yeah we'll take it from
1:25:53
here. I mean the entire point of it representative,
1:25:55
right, well you're going to represent my interest
1:25:58
in Congress when the reality of it is there may
1:26:00
be a million things that they can do. What do
1:26:03
you think they're going to choose? Okay, Bob
1:26:05
is paying me $100,000. Maybe I pay attention
1:26:07
to more Bob as opposed to these other people
1:26:10
because these other people, I can just win them
1:26:12
over when I get the money in order from Bob.
1:26:13
At a certain point, you realize there's so many
1:26:17
things that they can do in that office that ultimately
1:26:19
they're going to err towards the side of the
1:26:22
people who are giving them the cash because from
1:26:24
their point of view, that is how they get elected.
1:26:26
That's rational, by the way. Because it's corrupt.
1:26:28
True. Rational. By the way, Susan Collins, did
1:26:31
you see the ProPublica piece? No. No. ProPublica
1:26:33
put out a piece of Susan Collins accepting bribes.
1:26:35
And they caught her red-handed. The FBI had
1:26:37
a case against Susan Collins. What? And when
1:26:39
Trump got into office, Trump gutted the FBI,
1:26:42
in which case gutted the case against Susan Collins.
1:26:45
Apparently, there was some kind of firm that
1:26:48
was giving her Super PAC money. Susan Collins
1:26:50
said a thank you before it even registered that
1:26:51
the money was sent from the Super PAC. Basically
1:26:53
we caught you red-handed. You're not supposed
1:26:53
to be working with your Super PAC. You're accepting
1:26:56
money from these guys to the tune of hundreds
1:26:57
of thousands of dollars. You're giving them thank
1:26:59
yous directly even before the money even airs,
1:27:03
meaning you're talking to the people who are
1:27:06
paying you. Yeah. Yeah. And she pushed them millions
1:27:08
of dollars in contracts. No, I did do a search
1:27:11
on this yesterday because remember that guy who
1:27:15
was running against Susan Collins, the Democrat
1:27:17
who got MeToo and got taken out? Yeah, Graham.
1:27:19
Yeah, Graham. So I decided to do a follow-up
1:27:22
on that. The woman who accused him, she never
1:27:25
went to the police after he dropped out of the
1:27:27
case. Or after he dropped out of the race, which
1:27:29
makes me think that there was nothing to that
1:27:31
at all. And it also turns out that she invited
1:27:32
him over to the house because she needed to have
1:27:34
a thigh massage. That text message was never
1:27:37
released by the media. Who needed a thigh massage?
1:27:39
The woman who accused him of rape. She said she
1:27:43
needed a glute massage. It was in the text message.
1:27:46
The media never ran with it. They talked about
1:27:48
the relationship. They ran full on with the accusation.
1:27:50
Sounds to me like a request for a butt massage.
1:27:53
It was. So to me, that sounds like it's not so
1:27:57
much a butt massage. Who couldn't use a butt
1:27:59
massage, though, in this day and age? But the
1:28:02
point I'm trying to make is that Susan Collins
1:28:05
is going to be the senator from Maine yet again.
1:28:07
I don't know about that. No, I think she's in
1:28:10
deep shit now. You think so? I hope so. I think
1:28:14
that's the end of her. Mainers are not going
1:28:18
to put up with that shit. But that's right. I
1:28:21
mean she's given millions of dollars of contracts.
1:28:24
The Democrat is a good, the Democrat who replaced
1:28:26
Platner is a pretty solid candidate. So yeah.
1:28:29
Yeah she's done. She's done. I hope that, I hope
1:28:32
Platner sues the hell that woman that accused
1:28:34
him. I hope he goes after like yeah
1:28:38
but there's always this effect. If I were him
1:28:41
I'd lay low. So who cares? You're already slandered.
1:28:43
Believe me I know all about it. Don't you think
1:28:45
that's your race? That's your rapist already.
1:28:48
Just do it. Believe me, I know all about it. If that
1:28:52
blows up in May, she's toast. They got her dead
1:28:55
to rights. Consider it blown up. If it wasn't
1:28:57
for Trump. Okay. Duskburn. What about Ossoff?
1:29:00
What is it? Josh Ossoff? He's been setting it
1:29:03
on fire lately. I've seen some of his speeches.
1:29:05
I don't know. He leaves me flat. I don't get
1:29:08
it. He's a Zionist Jew. The Democrats would never
1:29:12
support him. It's the whole Josh Shapiro effect,
1:29:14
only he's smart enough not to sign bombs. Yeah.
1:29:17
I mean, seriously. Also, I don't get it. I actually
1:29:20
more understand Josh Shapiro's appeal as a candidate
1:29:23
than Ossoff. I mean, Shapiro has the rizz. I mean,
1:29:26
they're just doing Obama impressions.
1:29:28
Would never fucking vote for him. Yeah, it's
1:29:32
just an Obama impression. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:29:35
It doesn't do it for me. It's like all the Democrats
1:29:38
have just started doing that as their cadence,
1:29:43
thinking that this is the way to get it. Meaning
1:29:44
from their point of view, it's about messaging.
1:29:49
It's not about substance. All right. Q and A continues
1:29:53
with Macadam. Thanks for the dollar. Ted, are
1:29:58
you aware that urinal etiquette is that we do
1:30:01
not talk at the urinals? And do Robby and J.T.
1:30:04
approve of Ted's penchant of striking out
1:30:07
conversations at truck stop urinals? I was going
1:30:11
to bring that up. So, A, it was not a urinal.
1:30:13
It was the side of the road. So y'all were peeing
1:30:18
on the side of the road. Peeing on the side of
1:30:21
the road. Okay, and I don't know if that's an
1:30:23
exception. And B, I did not strike up this conversation.
1:30:26
Who struck up the conversation? The trucker did.
1:30:29
And he, both of you penises out. And he says,
1:30:31
hey, by the way. He was just like, I think he
1:30:32
was just like, like cold morning, huh?
1:30:34
Cold morning. There was, by the way, there was
1:30:37
a ballroom called Roseland in which they had
1:30:39
concerts and shows and stuff like that in Times
1:30:44
Square. I saw the Kinks there, the Sex Pistols.
1:30:46
And it was an old timey like
1:30:48
probably from like 100 years ago like ballroom like where
1:30:51
people would like meet and like you have dance
1:30:52
cards and stuff and in the bathroom the
1:30:55
men's room was cavernous in the basement and
1:30:56
it had rows of urinals facing each other. What?
1:31:00
Yeah you're like right there. That's so weird.
1:31:02
And it's like you're sort of like hey hey. It's
1:31:05
like, how you doing, man? This is a pretty good
1:31:09
party, right? God, that's so weird. Oh, that's
1:31:10
so weird. I know in Egypt, they had the things
1:31:18
in the floor while you had to pee, like directly
1:31:21
in the floor. Yeah, yeah, the Turkish style.
1:31:22
Oh, those are so gross. Oh, but you get a good
1:31:28
squat going, right? It's like the squatty part.
1:31:33
You get like, things come out better.
1:31:36
Give me a good toilet any day of the week and
1:31:39
twice on Sundays. I don't know. I think I'm on
1:31:45
team squat all the way. Maybe Bluth Punk. This
1:31:48
man has killed multiple people, raped children,
1:31:50
brought an existential war to Iran, created a
1:31:53
Gestapo. Maybe Bluth Punk, but she doesn't have
1:31:56
leadership potential. Yeah, but we're not talking
1:32:00
about who's the better president or who has the
1:32:09
better policies. Yeah, we're handicapping who
1:32:13
could win an American presidential primary and
1:32:14
election. Those two things have little, if anything,
1:32:19
to do with one another. And just be clear, we're
1:32:21
not saying her quality as a candidate, like meaning
1:32:23
nobody's saying how good she'll do as president.
1:32:26
Right. I don't think there's any way to know
1:32:29
that. Right. The argument we're making is, can
1:32:31
she get elected? Right. And one of the reasons
1:32:32
that... She's like, if I lose the presidency,
1:32:35
then I would lose my congressional seat also,
1:32:37
which makes her think twice about it. Right.
1:32:42
And people kind of like, when people consider who to, when American
1:32:46
voters go to the polls they think
1:32:48
of it like it's like a feeling. It's a vibe. Do
1:32:51
I think could I see John McCain as president?
1:32:54
Could I see Sarah Palin as president?
1:32:58
It's not about now. Sarah Palin may very well
1:33:00
have been an excellent president. We'll never
1:33:06
know. But the point is that we, it has
1:33:10
nothing, that's not what we're talking about here.
1:33:13
I mean, Donald Trump is a fucking maniac and
1:33:15
he shouldn't, he shouldn't have, he should. And
1:33:17
like Robby said, he should be
1:33:19
in prison. Like you said, he should be in prison.
1:33:20
I say the same thing. Yeah. We're not comparing
1:33:22
the two. No, it's like, and believe me. Yeah.
1:33:25
Yeah. President. Maybe. Maybe she could
1:33:28
usher in a new age for a thousand years.
1:33:31
Could well be. That's not really what I'm judging.
1:33:33
I'm judging on. I actually don't have
1:33:36
any sense of whether she'd be a good president
1:33:39
or not. I'm not even thinking about that. I mean,
1:33:41
there's so many variables there.
1:33:44
It's hard to say. I mean, I don't know that she's
1:33:47
a student of the presidency. You know what I
1:33:51
mean? Like in terms of what works and what doesn't
1:33:54
work. She may well be. I don't know. If we hit
1:33:58
the skids, like, again, man, this will be an
1:34:00
opportunity for a left-wing candidate to knock
1:34:03
that shit off the park. Yeah, in a crisis. Yeah,
1:34:06
this chaos. 1932, right? Everything's falling
1:34:07
apart. Look at what FDR did. FDR did whatever
1:34:11
the fuck he wanted because of that crisis. Yep,
1:34:13
exactly. Yep. I'm going to move heaven and earth.
1:34:18
Aliens about to attack Earth. I get grace to
1:34:21
do whatever the hell I want. Exactly. Ryan Newton.
1:34:25
The Democrats are a Zionist party and don't care
1:34:28
what their base wants. Well, that's for damn
1:34:28
sure. They will go with Ossoff. I don't know
1:34:32
about Ossoff. I don't know. Maybe. I just don't
1:34:34
believe that they can. I don't believe a Zionist
1:34:38
can get elected. Of the Democratic Party. They
1:34:40
can't be nominated. They can't be nominated.
1:34:43
Exactly. Andre420, can you guys ask Robby? Hey,
1:34:46
Robby. What do you think about Saeed with Kamala?
1:34:51
I think Saeed's a con man. Seriously, I think
1:34:55
he's a younger Bernie Sanders with no substance,
1:34:57
no spine, and he's got the looks, but he has
1:34:59
zero substance. And he's going to let down a
1:35:03
whole bunch of lefties because he's more of the
1:35:06
same, only with a slight tan. Well, at least
1:35:09
you didn't say he should be deported. Well, he's
1:35:13
from here. I can't – where am I? Michigan? I'm
1:35:16
teasing. But do you think he's doing this Kamala
1:35:19
Harris thing to get elected? Meaning I need to
1:35:21
somehow bridge a gap among people that for whatever
1:35:25
particular reason I just don't have access to.
1:35:26
And apparently I was listening to a Hasan Piker
1:35:29
thing where he was like, hey, there's a gap between
1:35:31
the Black community and Muslim community. And
1:35:33
I'm like, really? I need to ask Latham about
1:35:36
this because I didn't really realize that this
1:35:40
was the thing. I mean, I saw it in the polling
1:35:42
where the Black areas went to his opponent. Sure.
1:35:44
And he was able to take the other areas of Michigan,
1:35:48
but it was a close race. Well, he could always
1:35:50
just reach out to the Nation of Islam. I mean,
1:35:50
why would you reach out to – seriously, why would
1:35:55
you reach out to Kamala? She has arrested – she's
1:35:55
directly responsible for the prosecution of the
1:35:59
untold number of Black men, put them in prison
1:36:00
for smoking pot while she laughed about doing
1:36:03
it herself. She sent an innocent dude who she
1:36:07
admitted she knew was innocent to death row.
1:36:10
He's still in San Quentin. So if you're trying
1:36:14
to reach out to the Black community, you probably
1:36:16
wouldn't reach out to the woman responsible for
1:36:23
putting Black men in prison. That's probably
1:36:26
not the best play. Although there's a lot of...
1:36:29
There's sort of a lot of mainstream
1:36:33
Black voters, older people, churchgoers, who
1:36:35
the kind of people who respond to the James Clyburns
1:36:39
of the world. Yeah. Like think of what
1:36:41
Sanders went through. Sanders. I remember he gave
1:36:44
the speech at a church and it was a Black church
1:36:46
and everything that he's saying is getting applause
1:36:48
lines. Like they love it. What he's saying, right.
1:36:52
Clinton comes up, gives her speech, milquetoast.
1:36:54
And yet. When Sanders leaves, all of them are
1:36:56
on Team Clinton. It's like, oh, she's establishment.
1:37:01
That's the way they look at it. Kamala Harris
1:37:03
may also be looked at as the establishment, which
1:37:05
gives Blacks, oddly enough, for whatever particular
1:37:06
reason, this kind of license to latch on to the
1:37:08
party under Saeed. I don't know. It's very weird.
1:37:12
I agree with you on some parts, Robby, because
1:37:16
it's not like Kamala Harris got the Black vote
1:37:20
when she was running in the primaries. Black
1:37:22
voters have become small-c conservative within
1:37:25
the Democratic Party. I think they're afraid
1:37:28
of wasting their vote. I think their votes were
1:37:28
hard to come by, and they're afraid that if they
1:37:31
vote for a radical, they'll lose and the Republicans
1:37:33
will get in and make their lives even worse.
1:37:35
Yeah, but if Saeed won the primaries. If Saeed
1:37:38
wanted to win, all he would have to do is have
1:37:42
press conferences at every gas station in the
1:37:45
state. Said this is what's going on. This president
1:37:48
and this Congress started a war for Israel and
1:37:53
you are literally paying the price for it right
1:37:57
now. It's not a racial issue. It's literally
1:38:00
a class issue. It's between do you have to
1:38:03
buy sardines at the dollar store
1:38:06
to survive as opposed to going to Whataburger.
1:38:08
Well I guess Whataburgers don't exist in Michigan.
1:38:10
I mean you pick your restaurant, right, but you
1:38:13
hear what I'm saying though. That's what you don't.
1:38:18
Reach out to the Black community by going to
1:38:19
Kamala Harris, who has incarcerated Black men.
1:38:21
Yeah, but a lot of voters don't view it that
1:38:23
way. But look, I think like I was telling Jamarl
1:38:27
about two hours ago on his show,
1:38:30
my take here is that Saeed's
1:38:33
trying to like make inroads with the Black community,
1:38:34
with Black Democratic politicians, and Obama's
1:38:36
refusing to show up for him, right? Which is
1:38:36
well. So he had to make do with like Carrot Top
1:38:37
of Black politicians here. Obama is the one that
1:38:39
he needs. Yeah, he, no, Obama gets it done. If
1:38:42
he, if Obama goes there, it's finished. That's
1:38:45
like eight points in the can for him. Don't
1:38:48
need to campaign. I remember the Black gay thing
1:38:52
when Obama, when body was like, Obama doesn't
1:38:54
care about that. And immediately overnight, the
1:38:56
Black community was like. Yeah, there's nothing
1:38:58
wrong with gays. We never really had an issue
1:39:01
with gays and blah, blah, blah. Now, the fact
1:39:04
that Obama's not going, Obama's not showing up
1:39:07
for Saeed either because he doesn't think Saeed
1:39:09
is definitely going to win or because he's so
1:39:12
corporatist, he doesn't want Saeed to win and
1:39:16
he would rather the Democratic Party lose a mildly
1:39:18
progressive candidate then, and allow the Republicans in. They don't want that
1:39:21
to happen. I suspect that's where Obama would.
1:39:23
Black churchgoers vote for a spineless Muslim
1:39:27
man? Yes if he's against a Republican. See because
1:39:30
that's the rub, right? It's not like Saeed is running
1:39:30
against another Democrat. He's running against
1:39:32
a Republican and under my model the Democrats,
1:39:36
Black Democrats, one main item: who keeps the monsters
1:39:40
at bay. That's the key point. The monster's eating
1:39:44
your lunch right now. Every time you go to the
1:39:48
grocery store, the monster's eating your lunch.
1:39:51
Every time you go to the gas station, the monster's
1:39:53
eating your lunch. The monster's not at bay.
1:39:56
He's in your house. The monster, in this analogy,
1:39:59
is a Republican Party. That's what I'm saying.
1:40:03
When I was young and growing up, that was the
1:40:06
modus operandi. Who keeps the monsters at bay?
1:40:10
The monsters are in the other party. We need
1:40:13
to stop the other party. So you pick whatever
1:40:16
random Democrat that's effectively there. You
1:40:19
don't even know who the Democrats are. It's just,
1:40:22
all right, this is the guy and go and put your
1:40:24
business monsters because I voted for this random
1:40:25
Democrat. That has run its course. That is severely
1:40:27
run its course, right? But if Saeed is running
1:40:28
against a random Republican how the hell do they
1:40:31
turn around and vote for the Republican? I just
1:40:33
don't see it. They may stay at home. I don't see
1:40:36
them voting for the Republican. Well why would
1:40:39
you vote for Republican? The Republicans want
1:40:43
to screw you. Exactly. But I guess my point is,
1:40:47
Saeed is worried about the race. And he's worried
1:40:49
about getting enough Democrats on staff. It's
1:40:51
tight. It's tight. RealClearPolitics average
1:40:54
for Saeed currently has Saeed ahead by 2.8.
1:40:59
That's within the margin of error. That's tight.
1:41:01
And by the way, the last primary race was way
1:41:02
closer than they were predicting. Let me tell
1:41:06
you what I would do. And y'all are going to
1:41:10
think I'm crazy for this. Although this doesn't
1:41:14
have as many undecideds as that primary race
1:41:16
did. Go ahead, Robby. If I lived in Michigan,
1:41:18
I'll tell y'all exactly what I would do. And
1:41:20
Saeed, if he's watching the show, this is what
1:41:22
he should do. I would go, well, he would have
1:41:24
an easier time because he's Muslim. I would go,
1:41:27
I would set up a meeting with Louis Farrakhan.
1:41:30
Okay, here I am. Louis Farrakhan is five million
1:41:32
years old, man. It doesn't matter. But hear me
1:41:34
out here. But most Christians, we disagree on
1:41:36
a lot. But we agree on these things. That's the
1:41:38
last thing he needs to do is hang out with Louis
1:41:39
Farrakhan. The economic system is screwing us
1:41:43
all. We started this war for Israel. My opponent
1:41:45
supports more of the same. Let's take this to
1:41:49
Main Street. And the reason why I've reached
1:41:53
out specifically to the Nation of Islam as a
1:41:56
Christian fundamentalist is because they have
1:41:57
a ground game, they have an organization. That's
1:42:01
why we do it. Do they still have a ground kind
1:42:03
of an organization? I mean, I haven't seen mention
1:42:05
of Islam. I mean, they used to be in Richmond
1:42:09
all the time. My barber or one of them used to
1:42:12
be Muslim or Black Muslim, I should say. Do they
1:42:14
still do that? Let's find out. I don't know the
1:42:18
answer to that. That's what I'm asking. I know
1:42:22
that they have like a lot of motor drives and
1:42:24
stuff and they do a lot of charitable work, that
1:42:28
kind of thing. So, I mean, they have a game.
1:42:31
They've got more of a game than Kamala's got.
1:42:33
What does she have? She has a camera. By the
1:42:35
way, I'm looking at Saeed's platform, and it's
1:42:37
worrisome. Basically, he talks about overturning
1:42:41
Citizens United. Ain't going to happen. Getting
1:42:43
rid of the Senate filibuster. Also ain't going
1:42:45
to happen. Medicare for all. Also ain't going
1:42:46
to happen. Taxing the wealthy. All of this stuff
1:42:49
is federal. He's, this isn't about that.
1:42:51
This race is going to be about how you can reindustrialize
1:42:53
or replace the deindustrialized upper Midwest.
1:42:56
Right. How are you going to, what are you going
1:43:00
to do for Michiganders who have hollowed out
1:43:02
cities like Flint? How are you going
1:43:07
to poverty, opioids, unemployment, housing?
1:43:09
Those are the things that people in Michigan are going
1:43:12
to be worried about. And if I were him, I wouldn't
1:43:17
be focusing on a bunch of pie-in-the-sky bullshit.
1:43:21
I mean, I'm worried about him. He can lose this
1:43:23
race. No, I agree, but he's going to the Senate.
1:43:26
I mean, I guess he could put legislation that
1:43:28
would try to reindustrialize the Midwest and
1:43:31
those type of things. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
1:43:34
I mean, I think he's a squishy Democrat, frankly.
1:43:37
Yeah, he is. I could be wrong. I think he's squishy.
1:43:38
And he's not. And he's not. And he's charmless.
1:43:40
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, AOC's got the charm like
1:43:45
nobody's business. Because Mamdani was very,
1:43:48
he's very charming. Oh, so charming. I mean,
1:43:50
you might dislike him, but he does come across
1:43:52
very likable. He's a likable dude. I mean, come
1:43:54
on. He is. He's funny. He's very likable. El
1:43:57
Saeed. On his city, driving around town on his
1:43:59
Citi Bike with the older Jewish guy who was helping
1:44:03
him out, Brad Lander. So cute with their little
1:44:06
bromance. Doing the polar bear swim at Coney in
1:44:10
his suit. Diving into the public pool on the
1:44:13
opening day of summer in his suit. That's what
1:44:16
I mean, right? Like that works, especially from
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New York. It's so appealing. Maybe Michigan is
1:44:23
different, but I don't know. That should work.
1:44:28
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, Saeed's just like, I
1:44:28
mean, like, who would, okay, this would be the
1:44:33
beer test. Who would you rather have a beer with?
1:44:37
I mean, for me, it's Mamdani, for sure. It's
1:44:39
going to be a more, a fun, much more fun evening.
1:44:41
Please bring your wife. She's very attractive.
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Saeed's going to be bringing, like, all of his
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Y chromosomes. I'm going to be, I don't need
1:44:53
to be out-butched. All right. Let's
1:44:56
see. Makaden, we got to talk about, we do have
1:44:58
to talk about the ACA a little bit. Makaden,
1:45:02
with all due respect, if I'm pissing on the side
1:45:05
of the road and a guy comes up next to me and
1:45:07
whips it out, I'd be uncomfortable with or without
1:45:08
the conversation. A little bit. You seem to be
1:45:12
very comfortable with that. I mean, it's not the first time anything like that's
1:45:13
happened. I'm 63. If you say we need a fake alien
1:45:17
invasion to unite the empire, maybe the aliens
1:45:19
can explain to us what a woman is. Do you think
1:45:23
Trump would be impeached, prosecuted or extradited
1:45:23
to the Hague or anything at all if he nukes Iran?
1:45:28
God, what a good question. I don't think so.
1:45:31
I don't think so. He should be. That would be
1:45:34
the moment. Should be. Any random, for one any functional government wouldn't have allowed
1:45:36
him to do it in the first place. True. He would
1:45:39
be celebrated as a hero. I don't know. I don't
1:45:43
think so. No. People would be absolutely appalled.
1:45:46
No I'm not talking about the people. I'm talking
1:45:50
about the way that the media and the establishment
1:45:53
would do is that he destroyed this the largest
1:45:57
terrorism on earth. I've never disagreed with
1:46:02
you anything more than that. Even Fox News would
1:46:05
be out the door. Listen, I hope to God I'm wrong.
1:46:07
Even OAN couldn't be there for him. Yeah, I think
1:46:11
they would be horrified. They would be horrified.
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Nobody. You said you've already won the war.
1:46:15
There's that, right? Like you've already said
1:46:18
they're beat to death. They don't have the military.
1:46:20
They don't have any of this stuff. They don't
1:46:23
even know the state. We're going to name the
1:46:25
state of America. And then you nuke them? Yeah.
1:46:27
After saying you're going to destroy 90 million
1:46:32
people? He would be forced to resign within days,
1:46:36
I think. Like I said before, the man should be
1:46:38
in prison for even threatening it. But I just
1:46:41
don't know. I think that the way the propaganda
1:46:43
would go is like, we received credible intelligence
1:46:46
that Iran was about to nuke Baltimore. And so
1:46:48
we acted. I think he would try. But that's like
1:46:51
saying, do we really believe Iran is nuked now?