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Standing Firm Against the Enemy with Dr. Michael Vanlaningham & Tackling Cluttering with Kathi Lipp · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
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  S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S5: Boy, you have been a conduit of truth and hope
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  S5: and love. And we want to celebrate with you. Boom crew.
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  S5: I don't even know how to put words to it,
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  S5: but the vast majority of 2.5 million was picked up
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  S5: by you in the boom crew. Yeah. Finished up share
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  S5: last week and we did some extra time. Ali and
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  S5: I stuck around. Super D did as well, and we
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  S5: were plugging away all the way until 11:00. And right
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  S5: before 11:00 we broke the ribbon of 2.5 million, which
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  S5: was beautiful. So we had another hour to go and
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  S5: we piled in another, I don't know, 60 some thousand dollars.
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  S5: But from the bottom of our heart, thank you to everyone.
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  S5: All the prayers. In fact, I'm going to be getting
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  S5: a video out to you. Just did we already get
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  S5: it out the video thanking them for what happened? I
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  S5: think we're getting it.
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  S4: We're going to get it going. Going to get it out. Yes.
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  S5: There we go. So we we love you. We are
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  S5: grateful for you. And it is flat out amazing. We
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  S5: had an hour that set an all time record, 250
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  S5: plus gifts given in one hour, I think on Friday.
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  S5: Was that Friday. My days are all mixed up.
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  S4: That was Friday.
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  S5: Was it Friday?
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  S4: That was Friday.
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  S5: So it was 250. Some gifts in an hour. That's.
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  S5: That's six gifts a minute.
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  S3: That's incredible.
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  S5: That's you. Boom crew. That's what you do. And from
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  S5: the bottom of our heart. Thank you. The unstoppable gospel.
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  S5: It changes everything. And we are grateful that we can
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  S5: even be with you this morning. We're humbled to even
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  S5: be with you. We're just glad to. Thanks for letting
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  S5: us hang out with you. It's pretty cool, isn't it? Super.
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  S5: What's on your heart about that week?
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  S4: My biggest thing with that week is just to see
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  S4: how everyone came together. Didn't matter who, where, what, when.
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  S4: Just everyone came together. The thing is, you know, do something.
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  S4: And they did. Everyone just worked so much as a team.
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  S4: And my biggest heart was how many new people came
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  S4: to the crew. New givers this year. Those who just
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  S4: tapped into the monthly giving upped their monthly giving. I mean,
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  S4: come on. The response was overwhelming. And just as Carl said,
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  S4: there's no words to share what's in our hearts this morning.
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  S5: Yeah. Overwhelmed. Over overwhelmed. It was epic. And that last
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  S5: hour before we broke the ribbon was just one of
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  S5: the craziest things to behold. I mean, it was just nutso.
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  S5: I lost my voice. And, uh, it's a little on
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  S5: the edge, but who cares? That was worth being poured out, man,
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  S5: that was a drink offering all the way. And it's beautiful. Uh,
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  S5: there's some of you that weren't there, and you want to.
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  S5: You understand it. You get it, man. The gospel changes everything.
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  S5: And you believe in the unstoppable gospel. All you got
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  S5: to do is, um, all you got to do. Uh,
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  S5: if you want to be a part in zero arm twisting,
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  S5: still super diet. You got the facts here. What do
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  S5: you got?
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  S4: Absolutely. If you text the word share, just text the
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  S4: word share to 800 555 7898. We've got a link there.
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  S4: There is a special designated number to still use. So
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  S4: we'll get you all that information. Just text the word
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  S4: share to 800 555, 78, 98 and we'll hook you up.
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  S5: And one of the coolest things that happened on Saturday
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  S5: is that super day was a birthday girl on the
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  S5: day when we broke the ribbon.
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  S3: That's a good birthday.
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  S4: That was my gift. I know it was like the
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  S4: best gift ever. Like thank you.
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  S5: Happy birthday.
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  S4: Thank you. Happy birthday. Thank you.
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  S5: 38 years old and going strong.
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  S4: 39.
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  S5: 39.
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  S3: How do you feel for 39?
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  S4: Feeling great. Good. Feeling great. Yeah, yeah, it was a
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  S4: good year, so I thought I'd do it again.
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  S5: You know what I. I'm praying that this year is
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  S5: the best year of your life. I wrote that on
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  S5: a little card to you. I'm wanting this year to
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  S5: be the best year of your life. Oh, great. She
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  S5: didn't get the card yet. We haven't celebrated. Oh, great. Okay,
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  S5: there we go. Carl. Way to go.
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  S3: All right.
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  S5: What do.
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  S3: You mean?
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  S5: What do.
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  S4: You mean? Nothing.
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  S3: It's a little tease ahead.
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  S5: It's okay. Yeah. Little tease ahead. I like that. Basically,
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  S5: that's what I said. This year to be the best
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  S5: year of your life.
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  S4: Thank you.
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  S5: Oh my goodness. Thank you, thank you. So thank you,
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  S5: thank you thank you. 800 696. 24. You can go
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  S5: online to moody radio.org. If you didn't get a gift
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  S5: in and you wanted to. We want to make sure
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  S5: that you have an opportunity. Zero arm twisting. But hey,
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  S5: we're not reaching a budget. We're reaching people. And you
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  S5: get it. And we're so grateful for you. We love
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  S5: you big time. We got some other big news. We
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  S5: got some other big news. You might have heard a
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  S5: voice in here you haven't heard in a while.
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  S4: Who is.
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  S3: That?
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  S5: Who's that coming up here? In a moment, we're going
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  S5: to reintroduce them to everyone.
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  S3: So you might have forgotten who we know.
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  S5: Listen, we've got some. No, nobody forgot, but we might
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  S5: have some new people to the crew in the last month.
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  S5: In fact, I know we do because we had people give.
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  S5: That said, they've been listening for like a week or two.
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  S3: Oh that's awesome.
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  S4: That's a very good point. What we did.
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  S5: So who is that voice? Who is that man? Who
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  S5: is that man? The mysterious man.
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  S4: It's a great story.
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  S5: Yeah, it's a great story. And we'll have it for
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  S5: you coming up here. Welcome aboard. For all of you
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  S5: that are new to the crew. Let us introduce one
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  S5: of the old golden oldies around here. Hang on. That's
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  S5: coming up.
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  S1: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and crew.
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  S4: A lot of people prayed.
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  S5: Yeah, a lot of people prayed during chairman. And we're
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  S5: so grateful for all of you. How many were on
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  S5: the prayer team this year?
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  S4: 660.
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  S3: Wow.
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  S4: Prayer Warriors.
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  S5: Six.
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  S4: And we even had extra 60 others emailed me saying, hey,
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  S4: I know I'm not in the schedule, but I'm still praying.
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  S4: I'm like, wow.
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  S5: That is so cool.
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  S4: Yeah.
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  S5: Well, we got a new voice here. Let's hear it. Who?
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  S5: Who are you, sir?
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  S3: Hey, it's me, Jonathan Radke. Or otherwise known as Young Thunder.
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  S5: Yeah, man, we might have some new people to the crew,
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  S5: but we've missed you for a month. But it's been good. What?
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  S5: What is going on in your life and what are
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  S5: you learning?
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  S3: Well, what's going on in my life is I've got
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  S3: a new baby girl at the home. Uh, little little sailor. Grace. Frankie. Uh.
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  S5: Sailor grace. What a great.
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  S3: Name. Yeah. I I'm so happy. My wife, my wife
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  S3: came up with the name. And at first she said sailor.
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  S3: And during the naming process. And I was like, I
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  S3: don't really know. I don't think so. And then later
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  S3: she brought it up again because she was pretty committed
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  S3: to it. And I was like, you know what sounds good?
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  S3: I think we need to do that. So. So we
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  S3: did it. I'm glad you kept bringing.
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  S5: It thrown in.
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  S3: There. That's exactly. Uh, that was her too. She came
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  S3: up with the whole name. That's good. Yeah, it was awesome.
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  S3: And so, uh, she came September 11th, about 4:00 in
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  S3: the morning, and she's been with us for a month now,
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  S3: which is insane to think about what.
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  S5: A good rewrite I on September 11th.
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  S3: Yeah. Amen to that.
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  S5: What a great contrast.
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  S3: A nice way to remember a hard day for a
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  S3: lot of people. Absolutely. And, uh, it was I was
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  S3: just telling somebody that the day before, on the 10th, uh,
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  S3: my wife and I were dropping off her car at
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  S3: the auto body shop. And I was walking back to
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  S3: my car and I said, wait a minute. Let me
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  S3: go grab your hospital bag from your car just to
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  S3: make in case something happens. And as.
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  S5: Wise man.
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  S4: I know.
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  S3: Right. And as I'm walking back, she rolls down the
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  S3: window and says, uh, I think my water broke. And
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  S3: I said, are you serious? And she goes, yeah, I'm serious.
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  S3: And then we got home and she goes, yeah, my
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  S3: water definitely broke. And I said, okay, then we need
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  S3: to get to the hospital.
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  S4: What a.
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  S3: Story. And so we got going. But, uh, this month
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  S3: has been a really sweet time with my family. And
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  S3: God's been teaching me a lot. First, he taught me
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  S3: to appreciate the small moments because yeah, I was gone
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  S3: for a month and, and you know, when you're, when
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  S3: you're with a newborn and you're not getting a lot
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  S3: of sleep and you know, when you're up in the
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  S3: day and you got to take care of your toddler
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  S3: and you still got to go to the park and
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  S3: the library and all those things. so your your toddler
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  S3: can have a lot of fun. You can feel really
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  S3: tired and you can kind of want to fast forward
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  S3: through those moments. But God communicated something to me during
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  S3: that time that was really helpful. And he said, Jonathan,
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  S3: this month off will be the longest period of time
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  S3: that you have with your family without work. I want
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  S3: you to enjoy it and savor it and appreciate it.
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  S3: And that was really helpful to just say, hey, this
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  S3: can be hard and it's difficult and it's tiring, but
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  S3: don't have a desire to fast forward through these moments.
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  S3: Experience them well because it is the last time, or
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  S3: very well may be the last time that I experience
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  S3: these things with them in that way. And then the
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  S3: other thing is, is that, man, I learn it more
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  S3: and more each day, especially now with more kids in
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  S3: my house, is that I am not in control. Uh.
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  S3: I'm really not. I'm really not.
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  S5: And I didn't actually think you were. Did you?
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  S3: No, but I desire it.
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  S5: So much, soul man. It's like I am not in
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  S5: control here.
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  S3: I know I'm not in control. But the thing is,
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  S3: is I fight for it so much. You know, I, I,
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  S3: I have a little two and a half year old
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  S3: who I really want her to go brush her teeth sometimes,
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  S3: and she would rather run away from me and run
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  S3: circles around the house instead of listen. And, and I
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  S3: love that about her. But sometimes it's hard because I
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  S3: want to be in control of things. And that's really difficult.
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  S3: And this last week, my, you know, we had a
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  S3: little cold going through the house and my infant got
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  S3: the cold. And that's really hard to see your one
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  S3: month old struggling with something that you can't do much about. Uh,
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  S3: you're out of control.
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  S5: That's good.
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  S3: And, and that can be difficult, but it's good because
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  S3: it led me to I was walking around the, you know,
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  S3: I couldn't get her to calm down. The only place
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  S3: I could was out on the deck at night. It
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  S3: was cool. And the fresh air was helping her sleep.
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  S3: And I was looking up at the stars and it
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  S3: was just good to see.
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  S5: You're going to get me crying.
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  S3: Here.
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  S4: I know right?
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  S3: It was good to look up and say, God, whether
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  S3: things work out the way I want them to or not.
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  S3: You're good and I can trust you with it all.
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  S3: And and that was a really sweet time I was
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  S3: able to have with him. And so God, God taught
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  S3: me a really good few things on this month off
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  S3: and I'm really happy that I had it.
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  S5: That is beautiful, man. Man.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S5: Yeah. Welcome back, young Thunder.
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  S3: Thank you.
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  S4: It's so good to be back.
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  S5: He's back in the saddle again.
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  S3: I'm really. This is the longest I've sat down for, uh,
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  S3: for a good couple of weeks. I'm up running around
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  S3: and doing a lot of things. I'm like. I really
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  S3: like sitting in this chair. It's nice.
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  S5: We gotta get this show done so you can go
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  S5: home and rescue your wife.
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  S3: Yes, I know she's going to be working hard today
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  S3: until I get home.
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  S4: Now how's Eliana? How's Big Sis.
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  S3: Doing? Oh my goodness. She loves being a big sister. She.
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  S3: She wakes up in the morning and runs to Salem
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  S3: and goes, hi, little Selah and kisses her on the
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  S3: head and asks asks if.
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  S5: She wakes her up.
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  S3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. At night. We have to go. Okay.
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  S3: We need to use your whisper voice because your little
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  S3: sister's sleeping. But she she has not grown tired of it.
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  S3: She really is happy about having her in the house.
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  S3: And that makes things so much more easy.
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  S5: How great is it that God designed kids needing major
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  S5: sleep when they come out of the womb? Could you
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  S5: imagine if a kid came out and all they need
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  S5: is six hours?
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  S3: Oh my gosh. No, no, because, uh, she well, she
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  S3: also can't do anything. She's too small to do anything.
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  S3: So you kind of have to hold her. And then
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  S3: she's just looking at you and staring with her little, like,
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  S3: shaky head because her neck muscles aren't strong enough yet.
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  S3: And you're like, you're awake and, like, I can lay
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  S3: you down on the floor in front of some stuff,
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  S3: but you really can't play with much. So I am
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  S3: glad you sleep a lot right now is helpful.
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  S4: She's a beautiful little girl.
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  S3: Oh, she's so sweet.
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  S4: Oh, the pictures, man.
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  S5: So I want to pitch it to you. Boom crew.
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  S5: What are the little things that you, God is prompting
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  S5: you by Jonathan sharing that story. By the power of
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  S5: the spirit. I want you to think about a little
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  S5: thing today that God is asking you to enjoy that.
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  S5: Otherwise you might just fly right past.
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  S3: Mhm.
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  S5: I want you to think about that. What is that
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  S5: little thing that God is asking you to enjoy that otherwise,
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  S5: right on by it. I mean, come on, man. We
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  S5: are living in the moment. There's a time for everything,
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  S5: but there's always time for enjoying the small blessings from God.
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  S5: What is that small blessing from God that the Spirit
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  S5: of God is showing you? Enjoy this moment. Sometimes we're
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  S5: going so fast we just run right past blessings. Or
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  S5: we kind of hope that, well, maybe this will go
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  S5: by more quickly. And maybe God saying no. Enjoy it.
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  S5: 805 557898 text us your response to that. You can
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  S5: call in as well. 805 557898. In fact, let's get
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  S5: calls and texts in here. What is that little thing?
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  S5: Because of what Jonathan shared, the Spirit of God is
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  S5: prompting you. Enjoy this right now. 805 557898, 800 555, 78, 98.
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  S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
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  S5: Uh, we're getting some good feedback here. The sunshine coming
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  S5: through my kitchen window. The fabulous early fall weather we
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  S5: have been having. Okay. Talking about the little things you
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  S5: need to stop and just say thank you, God for that.
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  S5: My kids son graduated been has accepted his first job
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  S5: as an engineer daughter at Urbana, major elementary teacher and
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  S5: in the National Guard. You just go. Thanks God for
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  S5: my kids.
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  S4: Absolutely.
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  S5: They aren't perfect, but boy, they're a blessing. Truly grateful
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  S5: for the opportunity to be the caretaker for my mom. Oh.
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  S5: Mom's got dementia, but she's grateful for those times. Wow.
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  S5: Hard times. Because it allows me to rely on God
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  S5: more and more. Boy, when you can get there. Now
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  S5: we're growing up in grace.
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  S3: Yeah. I love this one. I'm thankful for the young
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  S3: man who sits behind me in church and sings every
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  S3: worship song loudly and boldly. It blesses my heart to
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  S3: hear this man unashamedly praise God.
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  S5: Isn't that awesome?
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  S4: That's so great.
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  S3: That's so good.
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  S5: Isn't that great?
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  S4: This one I love because because of nature. God's hand
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  S4: that paints a beautiful sunrise in the morning. Nothing like it.
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  S3: Mhm.
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  S5: Oh my goodness. Heavens declare I got a trucker here, man.
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  S5: He's saying, yeah, I'm a trucker. I'm grateful for Moody
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  S5: radio that I get to feed my mind with God's
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  S5: word all day. Being a truck, that is great.
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  S3: Truck driver. That's real.
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  S5: Yeah. That is so good. Wallpapered your mind with that stuff. Yeah,
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  S5: that young man thing. I'm just seeing that right now.
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  S5: Gratitude for beautiful landscape as trees change colors during my
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  S5: favorite time of year. This is becoming one of mine.
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  S5: I'm getting to the point where I'm not digging all
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  S5: this sweat.
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  S3: No falls. The best summer falls. The best season.
• 15:57
  S5: I mean, I like warmth, but I think I like
• 15:59
  S5: it on vacation more than a steady diet.
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  S3: 100%. Absolutely.
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  S4: Uh oh. Someone's first grandchild. Eight months now. Oh, such
• 16:08
  S4: a joy to me. Oh.
• 16:10
  S5: Of course. So cool. Massive access to biblical truth and
• 16:13
  S5: freedom to pursue biblical scholarly resources in a cool, dark,
• 16:18
  S5: quiet bedroom every night. So grateful. That's awesome.
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  S4: Man.
• 16:23
  S5: I didn't know where that was going. Here in a dungeon? No.
• 16:26
  S5: It's great. The blessing of having five senses. That's good.
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  S3: Yeah, absolutely.
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  S5: Yeah.
• 16:33
  S3: See, these are things that we can just blow by
• 16:37
  S3: On a, you know, on any given day.
• 16:39
  S5: On the on the regular.
• 16:40
  S3: On the regular, because there are things that we're, we're
• 16:42
  S3: exposed to most of the time, a lot of time. And, uh,
• 16:46
  S3: and it's good to be able to say, no, this
• 16:48
  S3: is a gift from God.
• 16:49
  S5: Somebody thankful for an interview with a potential new pastor
• 16:52
  S5: tonight to replace our retiring pastor. See, that's cool stuff.
• 16:55
  S3: Yeah.
• 16:56
  S5: New seasons, new stuff. Cooking. Grateful for the sunshine after
• 17:02
  S5: effects of Isaiah's. And I think I got that right.
• 17:05
  S5: I see.
• 17:06
  S3: The the hurricane.
• 17:07
  S5: That came through.
• 17:08
  S4: Alabama. Yes!
• 17:09
  S5: Wow. Way to go, guys. God's hand that paints a
• 17:14
  S5: beautiful sunrise in the morning. Nothing like it. Oh, see,
• 17:20
  S5: look at those things that are small and say thank you, God.
• 17:25
  S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
• 17:28
  S4: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
• 17:31
  S4: to stay in your past. And I want you to
• 17:33
  S4: know and believe that today.
• 17:35
  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
• 17:37
  S5: Yeah. Thanking God for the little things here. Got a
• 17:40
  S5: couple brothers that held on. Glad you did. David and Sarasota, Florida.
• 17:44
  S5: What's the little stuff you're thanking God for today?
• 17:48
  S6: Hey there. How are you all doing?
• 17:50
  S5: Doing great man. What's on your heart?
• 17:52
  S6: Well, it sounds it's really. It's big. I was diagnosed
• 17:56
  S6: 26 years ago with a neuromuscular disorder that was a misdiagnosis.
• 18:01
  S6: And I now know that I have multiple sclerosis, which
• 18:05
  S6: sounds really, really bad and horrible. But the big truth
• 18:07
  S6: is that there's treatments for Ms. at my other disease
• 18:12
  S6: didn't have the diagnosis of the. Ms. explains so much
• 18:17
  S6: of my gait disorder that I've had for 30 plus years.
• 18:21
  S5: Bro, that's got to be freeing to hear that news,
• 18:24
  S5: isn't it?
• 18:25
  S6: It makes me cry to have the knowledge and the
• 18:29
  S6: truth and the freedom to go, oh, because there's a
• 18:33
  S6: big thing. Chronic fatigue is big with Ms.. It doesn't
• 18:36
  S6: matter how much you sleep, you just have it. So
• 18:39
  S6: I'm like, how do I always wake up tired? You know,
• 18:43
  S6: I go to bed early on, on Friday night to
• 18:45
  S6: sleep late on Saturday, you know, nine hours. And I'm like,
• 18:49
  S6: Holy crap that I would not sleep. And I slept great.
• 18:51
  S5: Yeah, no, that is that is huge, dude. David. That's awesome. Man.
• 18:57
  S5: I am so happy for you when you get those
• 18:59
  S5: blanks filled in. And you know what? Thanks for not
• 19:01
  S5: having bitterness. You've probably battled with that a little bit
• 19:04
  S5: being misdiagnosed, but well.
• 19:07
  S6: But the last doctors. Yes. How did they miss it
• 19:10
  S6: on the MRIs? But because God is sovereign and I
• 19:13
  S6: was not mature enough then to handle this, that today
• 19:18
  S6: I am. So God's timing is perfect.
• 19:20
  S5: How you got man, that's some maturity, bro. Dog. Let
• 19:24
  S5: me pray over you right now. Father, I pray in
• 19:26
  S5: Jesus name that you would heal my brother. And it's
• 19:30
  S5: so cool to hear him just elated with knowing what
• 19:34
  S5: in the world is going on. And Lord, when you
• 19:37
  S5: fill in those blanks for us, it's truly a gift
• 19:40
  S5: from you. And I pray that you will bless David
• 19:43
  S5: and heal our brother in mighty ways. And thank you
• 19:47
  S5: that he gives you glory in everything this morning. In
• 19:50
  S5: Jesus name, Amen. That's a wild one, isn't it, guys?
• 19:54
  S3: I, I love that it's so cool that what God
• 19:59
  S3: did to give him that diagnosis and how freeing it
• 20:03
  S3: would be to say, oh, this is what's going on.
• 20:06
  S3: And now we can do something about it.
• 20:08
  S5: That's so awesome. Jason, first time caller in Crandall, Georgia.
• 20:12
  S5: What do you say, my man?
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  S7: First things first and foremost, the Word of God. It
• 20:19
  S7: being so readily available, whether it's the paperback Bible apps,
• 20:23
  S7: there's no restrictions in the U.S. that you can't download
• 20:26
  S7: the Word of God.
• 20:27
  S5: Yeah.
• 20:28
  S7: And what I'm doing right now, brother speaking, I ought
• 20:31
  S7: to be able to use an audible voice. Whether it's
• 20:33
  S7: to cry out to the Lord and praise, or just
• 20:35
  S7: go to him in prayer to share the Word of
• 20:38
  S7: God with others. The same thing y'all are doing right
• 20:40
  S7: now on the radio.
• 20:41
  S5: Yeah.
• 20:41
  S7: And what did you do? I heard your voice to hear.
• 20:44
  S7: I can hear the word of God. I can hear
• 20:46
  S7: y'all giving the word of God. I can hear his
• 20:49
  S7: songs on the radio. All those are so, so important.
• 20:53
  S7: I mean, those are little to some that we take
• 20:55
  S7: them for granted. You know, I know some people that
• 20:58
  S7: are deaf and have to use sign language. They can't
• 21:00
  S7: audibly speak to the Lord, you know, and I just,
• 21:03
  S7: I just thank the Lord for those three things because
• 21:05
  S7: the Word of God, that's how I reach you. That's
• 21:08
  S7: how I reach the lost. So.
• 21:10
  S5: Dude, Jason, first time caller. Boom brother and David boom brother.
• 21:16
  S5: That's why we call you the boom crew right there.
• 21:19
  S5: These are two spiritual stud muffins, man.
• 21:21
  S3: Yes they.
• 21:22
  S5: Are. They are finding God in that little sweet stuff. Now,
• 21:28
  S5: David's ain't no little thing. Let me tell you something.
• 21:30
  S5: You're battling something for 30 years, you've been misdiagnosed, and
• 21:33
  S5: then you get the real thing.
• 21:35
  S3: Sure ain't no little thing. It's life changing.
• 21:39
  S5: It's got a few people going out to get a
• 21:41
  S5: second opinion on.
• 21:42
  S8: Some things this morning, right?
• 21:45
  S5: Excuse me. Would you be willing to check my blood pressure, too? Oh.
• 21:49
  S5: It's normal. Oh, good.
• 21:51
  S8: Okay.
• 21:52
  S5: Wow.
• 21:53
  S9: So good.
• 21:54
  S5: That's big stuff. I don't know what you're looking at
• 21:57
  S5: today that you've taken for granted, but find God in
• 22:01
  S5: the little things. It will change the trajectory of your day.
• 22:07
  S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio. This is.
• 22:12
  S5: War. That's the topic of our week. And I just
• 22:15
  S5: want to do a quick set here. We can fall
• 22:18
  S5: off on two sides of the high ridge. We can
• 22:22
  S5: begin to find, as is commonly said, a demon under
• 22:25
  S5: every rock that gets overly used, by the way. But
• 22:29
  S5: we can also become oblivious to the reality of spiritual war.
• 22:34
  S5: And there are fallen angels who defected with Satan out
• 22:39
  S5: of his pride and beauty. And they are being used
• 22:44
  S5: by the prince and power of the air to deceive,
• 22:47
  S5: to accuse, and to otherwise defeat followers of Christ. Even
• 22:52
  S5: born again people. Our guest right now, Doctor Michael Van Landingham.
• 22:56
  S5: Love this man, Allie. Boy. Michael, what do you think
• 23:00
  S5: about this spiritual war? We kind of miss it on
• 23:02
  S5: two sides often, don't we, friend?
• 23:04
  S10: We do. And it's a topic that's crucially important. That's
• 23:07
  S10: a huge understatement. You know, here in the West, I
• 23:11
  S10: think we probably don't think that Satan and demons are
• 23:15
  S10: as active as they are in some more animistic cultures,
• 23:19
  S10: in other parts of the world. And yet Satan does
• 23:22
  S10: things differently here, I think, than he does in those
• 23:25
  S10: parts of the world. And yet he's still very much
• 23:27
  S10: real and still very much at work.
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  S2: Okay, so explain what you mean. You said you think
• 23:32
  S2: he operates differently in this part of the world compared
• 23:34
  S2: to others. That's going to raise some some questions from people.
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  S2: Explain that a little bit more.
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  S10: Sure. Well, in some parts of the world, third world areas, cultures,
• 23:46
  S10: you know, you've got shamanism, you have black magic, you
• 23:49
  S10: have more sort of outspoken, observable demonic activity that's taking place.
• 23:56
  S10: We don't have that as much here in the West.
• 23:58
  S10: But what we have here in the West are things
• 24:00
  S10: related to culture and values and idolatry and anti-God thinking,
• 24:08
  S10: all still demonic and still very real and still very damaging,
• 24:13
  S10: but slightly differently. Not, you know, I mean, in those
• 24:15
  S10: parts of the world, you've got theological issues and some
• 24:19
  S10: sort of philosophical, existential issues as well. But but you have,
• 24:24
  S10: I think, more common there, more observable, active demonic actions,
• 24:30
  S10: then you might actually observe here. But again, I'll just
• 24:32
  S10: say Satan is every bit still as active here as
• 24:35
  S10: he is there as well.
• 24:37
  S5: Doctor Michael Van Landingham, our guest right now. You know,
• 24:40
  S5: I've thought about this a lot, having lived in South
• 24:42
  S5: Africa and been in various different regions around the globe,
• 24:45
  S5: I have seen more demonstrative demonization in other countries. But
• 24:52
  S5: if Satan is smart and he is, it would seem
• 24:57
  S5: that there's strongholds with regard to the American dream, quite candidly, Michael,
• 25:02
  S5: and things that become. They enslave us and they don't
• 25:07
  S5: look as demonstrably horror film ish, but they're just as destructive.
• 25:14
  S5: Is that kind of where you're going here?
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  S10: Yes, for sure. I mean, you mentioned things being here
• 25:19
  S10: in the West and the American dream and that kind
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  S10: of thing. You know, I think preoccupation with material possessions
• 25:26
  S10: and accumulation of material goods and wealth. I think that
• 25:29
  S10: can be out of balance, and I think it can
• 25:32
  S10: make us susceptible to the attacks of Satan in these
• 25:35
  S10: very areas. And so it's all attacks. It's all attacks,
• 25:39
  S10: whether it's, you know, Satan doing what would appear to
• 25:42
  S10: be black miraculous things, or whether he's just messed us
• 25:47
  S10: up so that we are now focused more on money
• 25:49
  S10: than we are upon God. It's all satanic.
• 25:51
  S2: Doctor Michael Van Landingham A lot of times when it
• 25:54
  S2: comes to spiritual warfare, how you hear people use that
• 25:57
  S2: term is that, you know, they're going through a difficult
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  S2: time in their life, or there's been some sort of
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  S2: crisis or hardship. And so people will say, this is like,
• 26:07
  S2: this is definitely a spiritual war. Like I am under
• 26:10
  S2: attack sometimes true, sometimes not. But the question is, I
• 26:14
  S2: think most people wrestle with is, how do I know
• 26:15
  S2: the difference between spiritual warfare versus living in a fallen
• 26:20
  S2: world and therefore going through hard times?
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  S10: None of us is guaranteed that life's going to be easy.
• 26:27
  S10: And so I think it would be wrong to always
• 26:30
  S10: equate hardship in life with satanic or demonic attack or
• 26:35
  S10: spiritual warfare. I just don't think that that's the case.
• 26:38
  S10: It could be. It certainly was the case with job,
• 26:41
  S10: but I don't know that it always is with us. Nevertheless,
• 26:45
  S10: I would say that sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
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  S10: I'm of the opinion that we have three enemies the world,
• 26:52
  S10: the flesh and the devil. But I'm also of the
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  S10: opinion that we respond to all three in exactly the
• 26:59
  S10: same way. And what is that? Well, in Ephesians chapter six,
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  S10: it talks about putting on the whole armor of God
• 27:07
  S10: so that we'll be able to stand firm against the
• 27:08
  S10: schemes of the devil. And so there it's it's more
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  S10: specifically about the enemy who is the devil? You know,
• 27:14
  S10: the world, the flesh and the devil. Well, there's the devil.
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  S10: But the basic parts of the armor are things related to.
• 27:22
  S10: I'll boil it down to proper scriptural doctrinal understanding. So
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  S10: we're to put on, for example, girding our loins with truth.
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  S10: That's not us telling the truth to other people. We're
• 27:36
  S10: to gird our loins with the truth that God has
• 27:39
  S10: provided for us. The full armor of God is the
• 27:43
  S10: full armor of God. That is, he provides this armor
• 27:47
  S10: for us. It's not necessarily something we bring to the battle.
• 27:50
  S10: You know, I've got friends of mine who served in
• 27:52
  S10: the military, and when they went off to boot camp
• 27:54
  S10: and enlisted and went off to do war, they didn't
• 27:57
  S10: take along your grandfather's old Smith and Wesson 22 revolver.
• 28:02
  S10: And why is that? It's because Uncle Sam had better
• 28:05
  S10: weapons for them. And so when we're talking about these
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  S10: things in Ephesians chapter six, we're not talking about us
• 28:12
  S10: telling the truth. We're talking about girding ourselves with the
• 28:14
  S10: truth of God. We're to put on the breastplate of righteousness.
• 28:17
  S10: This is not us being right or righteous. This is
• 28:20
  S10: to recognize that in Christ, God counts us righteous, and
• 28:25
  S10: we are righteous before him. And these things help us
• 28:29
  S10: in the battle to stand strong and to resist the devil.
• 28:32
  S10: Whether it's the devil, the flesh, or the world, we
• 28:36
  S10: use the same weapons of war to stand against those
• 28:39
  S10: things and to be victorious.
• 28:41
  S5: I love that Thomas Aquinas codified the world, the flesh,
• 28:46
  S5: and the devil, but that makes practical, healthy, biblical sense.
• 28:51
  S5: I love that, Michael. Uh, let's back up a little bit.
• 28:54
  S5: In Ephesians, the apostle Paul says, don't let the sun
• 28:58
  S5: go down on your anger and do not give Satan
• 29:00
  S5: a foothold or an opportunity. I think it says in
• 29:02
  S5: the ESV, now, that is not to be possessing a demon.
• 29:07
  S5: It's not oppression even, it is to be with demon.
• 29:12
  S5: But there is some kind of a toehold that is
• 29:15
  S5: given to Satan that is directly linked to Unresolved anger.
• 29:21
  S5: Is this just one example, or is it such a
• 29:25
  S5: big deal that Paul featured it?
• 29:27
  S10: Well, the answer is yes. Clearly, in the context, Paul
• 29:30
  S10: is talking about being angry and yet not sinning. So
• 29:33
  S10: we can be angry and yet not have it degenerate
• 29:36
  S10: into sin. But anger that's not dealt with well in
• 29:39
  S10: the church gives the devil a topos, which we get
• 29:42
  S10: the word topography from that. The idea is, is we
• 29:45
  S10: give him an opportunity, we give him, like you said, Carl,
• 29:49
  S10: a toehold. We give him a place to come in.
• 29:53
  S10: And so I think a lot of times, so many
• 29:54
  S10: problems in the church in particular, but also personally, we
• 29:58
  S10: give the devil an opportunity to really influence and mess
• 30:02
  S10: things up when we're not responding correctly to anger. And
• 30:06
  S10: the right way to handle anger in the church is
• 30:08
  S10: to go to the people that we're having an issue
• 30:10
  S10: with face to face, and actually try to work it
• 30:13
  S10: out with them. You don't go and talk about them
• 30:15
  S10: behind their back. That's something that Satan just loves. That's
• 30:19
  S10: us slandering. And Satan is a slanderer as well. And
• 30:22
  S10: so when we do that kind of thing, because we're
• 30:24
  S10: angry with somebody, that really gives it an opportunity to
• 30:27
  S10: come in and really mess things up. We have to
• 30:29
  S10: be much, much more savvy about being aware of the
• 30:32
  S10: kinds of things that he does and how he can
• 30:34
  S10: use anger to do real damage in the church.
• 30:37
  S2: Doctor Michael Van Landingham, retired professor at Moody Bible Institute
• 30:41
  S2: with us this morning. Is spiritual warfare always a personal thing,
• 30:46
  S2: or can it be corporate? Can a church, even a nation?
• 30:50
  S10: It can be all of that. It is very interesting.
• 30:53
  S10: In Ephesians chapter six, you know, we're to put on
• 30:55
  S10: the full armor of God so that you'll be able
• 30:57
  S10: to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. So
• 31:00
  S10: we're to take up the full armor of God so
• 31:02
  S10: you'll be able to resist in the evil day. Stand firm.
• 31:05
  S10: You know, our wrestling match is literally what the idea
• 31:09
  S10: is for. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood.
• 31:12
  S10: The word struggle there was used for a wrestling match
• 31:15
  S10: between two individual people. There is something intensely personal about
• 31:20
  S10: a wrestling match. You got two guys on a mat
• 31:22
  S10: and they're going at it with one another. It's not
• 31:24
  S10: like 22 guys on a football field. And so I
• 31:28
  S10: think the idea here is that it is intensely personal
• 31:32
  S10: and it can be individualized. The fighting that we have
• 31:35
  S10: now can spill over into the church as well, could
• 31:38
  S10: spill over into national things as well. But at least
• 31:40
  S10: in Ephesians chapter six, it's about me versus the evil
• 31:44
  S10: one and how I can, with God's armor, stand against him.
• 31:49
  S5: Doctor Michael Van Landingham, our guest. I want to tackle
• 31:52
  S5: one last thing here out of Ephesians six. There's four
• 31:55
  S5: different Greek words used in authorities cosmic powers present darkness,
• 32:00
  S5: spiritual forces of evil, heavenly places. And I was kicking
• 32:05
  S5: this around with a dear friend and theologian. His take
• 32:08
  S5: on this one, and I want to get yours, is
• 32:11
  S5: that it's much like the Prince of Tyre, I believe,
• 32:15
  S5: where you have these regional demonic forces. And we know
• 32:20
  S5: that Satan's strategic because the word schemes is where we
• 32:24
  S5: get our word method. So this is not haphazard attack.
• 32:29
  S5: How much of these Greek words lead us to understand
• 32:35
  S5: the strategies, the schemes, the methods of Satan?
• 32:39
  S10: Well, I think as we as we begin to really
• 32:42
  S10: study Scripture and we we try to look comprehensively at
• 32:45
  S10: what the Bible says about Satan and demons, then I
• 32:48
  S10: think we can get an idea of how it is
• 32:51
  S10: that he works. And basically, I think how he works
• 32:54
  S10: much of the time is through messing up our thinking.
• 32:59
  S10: You know, Paul in second Corinthians chapter 11 talks about
• 33:03
  S10: how he's fearful that while the Corinthians are betrothed to Christ,
• 33:07
  S10: that nevertheless Satan has deceived them, even born again Christian people,
• 33:12
  S10: Satan can deceive us. He can mislead us. And so,
• 33:14
  S10: you know, in three Corinthians chapter 11, verse two, I'm
• 33:17
  S10: jealous for you with a godly jealousy, for I betrothed
• 33:21
  S10: you to one husband, so that to Christ I might
• 33:24
  S10: present you as a pure virgin. But I'm afraid that
• 33:27
  S10: as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds
• 33:30
  S10: will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of
• 33:33
  S10: devotion to Christ.
• 33:34
  S5: Wow.
• 33:35
  S10: Yeah. And then he goes on and he talks about how,
• 33:37
  S10: you know, some of the Corinthians there were embracing the
• 33:41
  S10: arrival and the teachings of false apostles. That's just one
• 33:45
  S10: of the things that Satan can do, but he certainly
• 33:47
  S10: can and does mess up our thinking. And if he's
• 33:49
  S10: messed up our thinking, then it's a very short step
• 33:52
  S10: to having all kinds of problems and difficulties and hardship
• 33:56
  S10: in our lives in other ways also.
• 33:59
  S2: If you want more from our guest doctor Michael Van Landingham,
• 34:02
  S2: we want to get you to his website connected with
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• 34:10
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• 34:14
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• 34:17
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• 34:19
  S5: Kathy is with us here today. And here's the question.
• 34:23
  S5: We got paper everywhere, says someone I struggle with. Getting
• 34:26
  S5: rid of paper represents my life journey, and when I
• 34:30
  S5: look at it, I just can't release it. Please help.
• 34:33
  S5: What do you say, Kathy?
• 34:34
  S11: Well, first of all, that may represent your life journey,
• 34:38
  S11: but it's not your life journey. And so I just
• 34:41
  S11: want to say there are levels of paper, you know,
• 34:44
  S11: we're going to keep the passport, we're going to pay
• 34:46
  S11: the bills. But one thing that I think is so
• 34:49
  S11: important is so much of that paper needs to be
• 34:52
  S11: kicked back into play. So some of it is bills
• 34:58
  S11: that we are just hanging on to too long because
• 35:01
  S11: out of fear, what if I don't? If I pay
• 35:03
  S11: the electric bill, am I going to have enough money
• 35:05
  S11: for the water bill? You know, so we we keep
• 35:07
  S11: things too long because of fear of not having enough.
• 35:11
  S11: And so that is something we definitely need to get
• 35:14
  S11: a handle on. But if we're looking at older papers,
• 35:17
  S11: things that are from your past, things that maybe there
• 35:21
  S11: are letters or something like that, you don't need to
• 35:23
  S11: keep every letter that your boyfriend from eighth grade sent.
• 35:28
  S11: Now I will say, you know, keep one because those
• 35:32
  S11: memories are sweet.
• 35:34
  S8: He was a good dude.
• 35:36
  S11: He was a good dude. He just wasn't your dude. Okay.
• 35:40
  S11: And so.
• 35:41
  S8: That's right.
• 35:41
  S11: One and release the rest. You know, when it comes
• 35:45
  S11: to maybe relatives who have passed on, we don't need
• 35:49
  S11: to keep everything that they've ever sent us, given us,
• 35:53
  S11: keep the thing that is most representative of that person
• 35:58
  S11: or your relationship, and hold that dear. If our people
• 36:02
  S11: that we love knew that we would be hanging on
• 36:05
  S11: to these things for the rest of our lives, they
• 36:08
  S11: would have sent us a lot less stuff. They don't
• 36:10
  S11: want you carrying around that burden.
• 36:12
  S2: Kathy with us right now, author, speaker, blogger, podcast host.
• 36:16
  S2: Her podcast is called the Clutter Free Academy. She also
• 36:20
  S2: has a Facebook group that's wildly popular, clutter free. Kathy.
• 36:24
  S2: This whole topic can bring a level of shame because
• 36:28
  S2: depending on the degree to which you feel like you're
• 36:31
  S2: living under the weight of clutter, you feel like I
• 36:34
  S2: just can't get it together. Everybody else is so much organized.
• 36:38
  S2: I've tried so many times to get a handle on
• 36:40
  S2: this house, speak to some of the emotions that sort
• 36:44
  S2: of keep us stuck in these patterns.
• 36:46
  S11: That feeling of everybody else has got their life together,
• 36:50
  S11: and I'm a loser is very prevalent. But UCLA did
• 36:55
  S11: a study that said that 66% of women say that
• 37:00
  S11: clutter is a big issue in their life. So you
• 37:03
  S11: are not alone, friend. You just are not. And so
• 37:07
  S11: to think about that shame. Maybe the shame is over
• 37:10
  S11: the money you've spent that on things. You know, those
• 37:14
  S11: things that are hanging in your closet that maybe still
• 37:17
  S11: have the tags that, uh, you know, they look like
• 37:20
  S11: a great idea at the time, but they don't actually
• 37:23
  S11: fit your life. Yeah. I just want to remind people,
• 37:26
  S11: this is your first time on earth, okay? We're all
• 37:29
  S11: just figuring this out. So we all make mistakes. We
• 37:32
  S11: all buy things we shouldn't. We all hold on to
• 37:35
  S11: things because of the memories attached. And so part of
• 37:40
  S11: maturing is saying, you know what, I made a mistake.
• 37:43
  S11: I'm going to release that. And when I was a
• 37:47
  S11: single mom, we went to a goodwill to find my
• 37:51
  S11: kids some shoes. And my son was desperate to feel
• 37:55
  S11: a part of school, and all he wanted in life
• 37:58
  S11: was a pair of cool shoes and we went to goodwill.
• 38:03
  S11: Goodwill is not known for their cool shoes. Let's just
• 38:05
  S11: say that that's not what their reputation is about. And
• 38:09
  S11: we get there. And my junior high going into high
• 38:13
  S11: school is wearing a men's size ten. And so we
• 38:16
  S11: go to the elevens to try to find something he
• 38:19
  S11: can grow into. And he gives me this pair of
• 38:22
  S11: shoes and he goes, mom, these are the ones I want.
• 38:25
  S11: They were an eight and a half. Okay? We would
• 38:27
  S11: have to cut the toes out. I look at those
• 38:30
  S11: shoes because they come from the eight and a half section.
• 38:34
  S11: And guys, they were a size 11. And I just
• 38:37
  S11: think about that guy. Or most likely his wife, who says,
• 38:42
  S11: you've never worn these? We need to donate them. They
• 38:45
  S11: didn't know that they were the miracle that my kid
• 38:48
  S11: needed that day. And I'm so grateful that somebody said,
• 38:52
  S11: I can release these.
• 38:53
  S5: I love that story. When it comes to clutter or hoarding,
• 38:57
  S5: it manifests itself in a lot of ways. We want
• 39:00
  S5: to talk solutions here.
• 39:01
  S8: Yeah.
• 39:01
  S2: Porsha calling in. First time caller from Bensenville, Illinois. Go
• 39:04
  S2: ahead with your question for Kathy?
• 39:06
  S12: We have a family of six sports and extracurriculars, plus
• 39:11
  S12: an in-law, and it seems like laundry is never ending
• 39:14
  S12: in our house. There's like piles of it. It just
• 39:17
  S12: it just feels so much. Is there a system that
• 39:20
  S12: I can put in place to make laundry easier and
• 39:23
  S12: more efficient for our household?
• 39:25
  S11: It's such a great question. And Portia, keeping up with
• 39:28
  S11: six people. I, you know, I'm going to get tips
• 39:30
  S11: from you. That's what I'm going to say. But one
• 39:33
  S11: thing I have really released from my life, uh, you know,
• 39:37
  S11: fabrics are so much better than they were even ten
• 39:40
  S11: years ago. And lots of people are sorting into like
• 39:43
  S11: micro piles and it is causing more work than you
• 39:47
  S11: actually need. So I would say, don't be precious about it.
• 39:52
  S11: And I love a shout stick more than anything else.
• 39:56
  S11: That's the best invention of the past ten years, right?
• 39:59
  S8: And so I don't know what that is.
• 40:01
  S5: What's a shout.
• 40:02
  S8: Stick.
• 40:02
  S2: Stain remover.
• 40:03
  S8: Oh, okay.
• 40:04
  S11: It's a stain remover that is just. It's fabulous. Or
• 40:09
  S11: there's also the oxiclean remover. But both of those, those
• 40:13
  S11: are going, you know, you put them on there and
• 40:15
  S11: then they sit. The other thing I would say, I
• 40:17
  S11: don't know how old your kids are, but I think
• 40:20
  S11: about 9 or 10 is a great time to start
• 40:23
  S11: learning laundry. Or the first time a child puts clean
• 40:27
  S11: clothes back into the laundry hamper. That's the sign that
• 40:32
  S11: they need to start learning how to do laundry. So
• 40:36
  S11: you start with folding and putting away, but then they
• 40:39
  S11: can start managing some of that on their own. And
• 40:42
  S11: I think with six people, you just have to resign
• 40:44
  S11: yourself to the fact that laundry is an everyday habit.
• 40:49
  S11: But if you can get into that everyday habit and
• 40:51
  S11: it doesn't pile up, you're going to feel so much
• 40:54
  S11: more at peace with all of those things. The last
• 40:58
  S11: thing I'll say, we just have two people, but we
• 41:01
  S11: have laundry hampers on both floors if you have an
• 41:05
  S11: upstairs and downstairs. And that's something we've just done recently
• 41:09
  S11: that has has made a huge difference.
• 41:12
  S5: Is this why moms sniff clothes?
• 41:15
  S8: Yes.
• 41:15
  S5: To see if it's dirty or not. Because moms. I've
• 41:18
  S5: noticed moms, they just sniff laundry. It's it's a little odd.
• 41:23
  S11: I have never been a person who struggles with deep,
• 41:28
  S11: deep anger until I found clean clothes. I mean, I
• 41:33
  S11: was going to say something.
• 41:34
  S8: More.
• 41:35
  S11: Powerful there.
• 41:36
  S8: But no, no, it's powerful enough.
• 41:39
  S11: You know, to find clean, folded clothes in your child's
• 41:43
  S11: laundry basket. Yes. Is is, you know, whatever crime is
• 41:48
  S11: committed after that, she is excused. And, you know, a
• 41:53
  S11: jury of women would not convict. And I think a
• 41:56
  S11: lot of it comes from overstuffed drawers. Most of our
• 42:00
  S11: kids aren't dealing with too little. They're dealing with too
• 42:02
  S11: much and they just it's hard for them to manage
• 42:05
  S11: the symptoms. So getting those older clothes out of there,
• 42:09
  S11: the things that, you know, maybe somebody bought for them
• 42:11
  S11: that they don't wear, they're outgrown. Get those out. Because
• 42:15
  S11: if they see a drawer that's too full, that's going
• 42:18
  S11: to go in the laundry hamper.
• 42:19
  S2: Kathie Lee with us right now, author, speaker, clutter Free
• 42:23
  S2: Academy is her thing. Coming up, we'll tackle this one
• 42:26
  S2: heartfelt Kathie. How do I help an elderly parent free
• 42:29
  S2: up clutter? They asked for my help, but when I help,
• 42:31
  S2: they don't want to get rid of anything. That's coming up.
• 42:36
  S1: Celebrating the unstoppable gospel.
• 42:39
  S3: It's not that I've got to fill in these check boxes,
• 42:41
  S3: so he's okay with me, but it's that I get
• 42:43
  S3: to stand close to him so that I can experience
• 42:46
  S3: the life that he has for me.
• 42:48
  S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
• 42:50
  S2: We have Kathy, lip clutter free expert. This question came
• 42:54
  S2: in from a dear listener who says, Kathy, how do
• 42:56
  S2: I help an elderly parent free up clutter? They ask
• 42:59
  S2: for help, but when I actually help, they don't want
• 43:02
  S2: to get rid of items that clearly they should. This
• 43:06
  S2: one is um. This is very near and dear to
• 43:09
  S2: the heart of many.
• 43:10
  S11: Yes, this is the universal thing that all of us
• 43:13
  S11: are going to have to deal with with very few exceptions.
• 43:16
  S11: So here's what I would say. Ask that parent what
• 43:20
  S11: their goal is. They say they want to declutter, but
• 43:23
  S11: why do they want to declutter? Is it because they
• 43:26
  S11: want to be able to have people over, or is
• 43:29
  S11: there a safety issue? Or do they just want less
• 43:33
  S11: so that it's easier to clean? Or maybe they say,
• 43:36
  S11: you know, think I don't want to leave all of
• 43:38
  S11: this for my kids? Because you can go back to
• 43:41
  S11: that answer over and over again when they are struggling
• 43:45
  S11: to get rid of things or to put things away,
• 43:49
  S11: to say, hey, mom, I want to make this a
• 43:51
  S11: safe place for you to be able to walk around.
• 43:54
  S11: I'm also worried about your safety. And so being able
• 43:57
  S11: to say those kind of things put the goal in
• 44:00
  S11: front of them. I think it's really important to ask
• 44:03
  S11: before you touch things like, can I go through this box?
• 44:07
  S11: We have to remember our parents aren't former people. They
• 44:11
  S11: are people and they have whole lives. They have, you know,
• 44:14
  S11: their their boundaries and then realize you're just going to
• 44:18
  S11: have to go slow. Sometimes they don't want to get
• 44:21
  S11: rid of things because they're worried that the story is
• 44:23
  S11: going to be gone. So you can ask, hey, tell
• 44:26
  S11: me about this picture or tell me about this. And
• 44:29
  S11: we also have to remember that they're grieving a season
• 44:32
  S11: of their lives, that that people who maybe are near
• 44:36
  S11: and dear to them are now gone and they can't share.
• 44:39
  S11: So I would say keep it to short amount of time,
• 44:43
  S11: 30 to 90 minutes. Pick one small area and I
• 44:48
  S11: would start with safety first. I think that's the most
• 44:52
  S11: important thing, especially if things are on the floor and
• 44:54
  S11: start with easy wins. The expired food. I know that
• 44:59
  S11: some people are still going to hold on. Those are
• 45:01
  S11: perfectly good fruit cocktails. But to say, you know what,
• 45:06
  S11: let's just start with a fresh pantry. The things that
• 45:09
  S11: you're actually eating. Because a lot of that food was
• 45:11
  S11: from a season that they are no longer in. And
• 45:15
  S11: so start with those small wins. But safety is the
• 45:18
  S11: most important thing. But also their emotional comfort is really,
• 45:23
  S11: really important. And we think about getting rid of stuff.
• 45:26
  S11: It's probably going to be more storing stuff until it's
• 45:30
  S11: the child's decision. It's not so much about getting rid
• 45:34
  S11: of stuff. It's about storing things in a systemized way
• 45:39
  S11: until some people just are not equipped to make those
• 45:42
  S11: emotional decisions.
• 45:43
  S5: Love it. Kathi Lipp is our expert right now. Got
• 45:46
  S5: a text that came in help. I got a husband
• 45:48
  S5: who's a hoarder, doesn't care to get things organized, but
• 45:52
  S5: then it obviously bleeds into my life and functioning. That's
• 45:56
  S5: a tough one, Cathy. What do you say?
• 45:59
  S11: Oh my goodness. I am with you guys. My dad
• 46:01
  S11: was a hoarder. I saw my mom struggle with this
• 46:04
  S11: not for years, but for decades. And so a couple
• 46:08
  S11: of things. If he wants help, there are now some
• 46:13
  S11: hoarding programs. So you can Google this that were not
• 46:16
  S11: available even two years ago. But if he doesn't want help,
• 46:21
  S11: then I think you have to put bigger goals in
• 46:25
  S11: front of you as a couple than I just want
• 46:29
  S11: to get rid of your stuff. So one of the
• 46:31
  S11: goals can be I want to be able to feel
• 46:34
  S11: safe in my own home. I want to be able
• 46:36
  S11: to feel peace in my own home. I want to
• 46:39
  S11: be able to have our kids. Or for a lot
• 46:42
  S11: of people, it's a safe place for the grandchildren to come.
• 46:46
  S11: That's really important. And sometimes this isn't a clutter issue.
• 46:52
  S11: It is a relationship issue to say I need safe
• 46:57
  S11: spaces to respect. And so with some couples, we have
• 47:02
  S11: to be able to say, hey, you get this room,
• 47:05
  S11: I get this room. I'm not going to talk about
• 47:08
  S11: anything that's in your room, but I need for our
• 47:11
  S11: kitchen and our living room to be safe, clear spaces
• 47:17
  S11: so that I can feel at peace. And, you know,
• 47:20
  S11: hoarding is a mental disorder that is not something that
• 47:25
  S11: you can train out of a person. And so you
• 47:27
  S11: need to get them in to get psychological help. Or
• 47:32
  S11: if it's really just a clutter issue that may be
• 47:36
  S11: marriage counseling and go see a marriage counselor that has
• 47:40
  S11: dealt with clutter and stuff and hoarding before because you're
• 47:45
  S11: going to need somebody with some background, you really will.
• 47:47
  S2: Kathy Lipp, our guest this morning, want to get as
• 47:50
  S2: many questions as we can. Anonymous caller from Miami, Florida.
• 47:53
  S2: Go ahead with your question.
• 47:54
  S13: My problem is I have a department store at home
• 47:58
  S13: and in the storage. I was a shopaholic. I still
• 48:03
  S13: love to shop. I cut down, but now I'm trying
• 48:06
  S13: to get rid of all of these clothes. And I
• 48:10
  S13: too am embarrassed because I don't invite anybody to my house.
• 48:13
  S13: My house is nice and clean, but it's full of clothes.
• 48:17
  S13: Sometimes I am very embarrassed and ashamed, and I have
• 48:21
  S13: to apologize to God for the bad use of the
• 48:25
  S13: money that he has given me, but I really and
• 48:29
  S13: truly want to get rid of this stuff. Every time
• 48:33
  S13: I start to get rid of them, you know, it
• 48:36
  S13: becomes so overbearing that I just stop. It's like I'm
• 48:39
  S13: not getting anything done on my own.
• 48:42
  S2: Yeah. Anonymous from Miami. Thank you for that honest call.
• 48:45
  S2: Go ahead Cathy.
• 48:46
  S11: Well, first of all, I just want to give her
• 48:48
  S11: a hug. I really do, because I know the shame
• 48:52
  S11: of buying too much and feeling like I've abused the
• 48:58
  S11: resources that God has given me. But I do believe
• 49:02
  S11: that there is redemption in this. And one of the
• 49:04
  S11: things I would say is cluttery people and shopaholics are
• 49:10
  S11: some of the kindest, most generous people I have ever
• 49:12
  S11: met in my entire life. And to our anonymous caller,
• 49:16
  S11: I would really encourage you to find a program that
• 49:21
  S11: is equipping women for the workforce or helping single moms
• 49:28
  S11: who are struggling. And once we know, oh my goodness,
• 49:33
  S11: there's a person on the other end who needs these clothes,
• 49:37
  S11: who needs these shoes, who needs these for a job interview,
• 49:43
  S11: or to be able to go to church on Sunday
• 49:46
  S11: and feel and feel confident? Find a A program that
• 49:51
  S11: works with those women. You know, whenever I talk with
• 49:55
  S11: cluttery women or Shopaholics, if they know the things that
• 49:59
  S11: they've bought can go to help somebody else, there's a
• 50:02
  S11: release in that. There is a freedom in that. And
• 50:06
  S11: so maybe God can, you know, just redeem those decisions
• 50:12
  S11: that you made when maybe you were in an emotionally
• 50:16
  S11: vulnerable place or just didn't know how to deal with
• 50:20
  S11: some of the emotions in your life. So shopping was
• 50:22
  S11: the answer. And now you can use those results to
• 50:25
  S11: help other women.
• 50:26
  S5: Yeah, this is good stuff. Kathy Lipp And I think
• 50:28
  S5: what we need to do is point people to an
• 50:31
  S5: amazing website here, right?
• 50:33
  S2: Yeah. Just text the word clutter to 805 five, five, 78, 98.
• 50:38
  S2: This is going to connect you to many resources from
• 50:42
  S2: Kathy on her website. You can get started on some
• 50:44
  S2: of this today. Very practical. Just text clutter to 800 555, 78, 98.