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- Lucas: So Luna, here's a number I stumbled on this week that stopped me cold: 62 countries now offer some form of digital nomad visa. That's up from about a dozen in 2020. Luna: 62? That's wild. I remember when Estonia launched theirs back in 2019 and it felt like a novelty. Lucas: Exactly. And what's interesting isn't just the count — it's the second-order effect on company policy. I've been looking at a mid-size software firm — let's call them 'NexaSoft' — that saw about 30% of their engineers relocate abroad after they went fully remote in 2021. Luna: Thirty percent? That's massive. Did they adjust salaries? Lucas: That's the thing — they originally kept everyone on their home-office salary, mostly Bay Area or New York numbers. But within a year, they had engineers living in Lisbon, Chiang Mai, Medellín — and earning the same six-figure base. The founders started asking, 'Are we overpaying for talent in low-cost locations?' But also, 'Are we creating a retention problem if we cut pay?' Luna: Right, because if you drop someone's salary because they moved to Spain, and their colleague who stayed in San Francisco keeps the higher rate, that's a culture poison right there. Lucas: Exactly. So NexaSoft did something a lot of companies are now doing: they introduced location-based salary bands, but with a twist. They didn't cut pay for existing employees who had already moved. Instead, they set a baseline for new hires based on the local market, and for current nomads they froze the number — no raises until they came back to a higher-cost region. Luna: Hmm. So effectively a pay freeze for nomads. How did people react? Lucas: Mixed. Some engineers saw it as fair — their dollar went way further in Thailand. Others felt it was a backdoor pay cut. The company lost about 8% of those nomad engineers within six months, mostly to fully remote-first companies that still paid us level salaries regardless of location. Luna: So the market is still figuring this out. But let's talk about the visa angle itself. For someone listening who's considering a nomad visa, what are the actual requirements? I've heard numbers from $30,000 to $100,000 in annual income. Lucas: The global average minimum income requirement is about $46,000 a year, according to a recent analysis by a company called 'Nomad Capitalist.' But it varies wildly. Spain's new digital nomad visa, which launched in early 2023, requires about $32,000 — but you also need a clean criminal record and health insurance. Portugal's D8 visa is around $9,000 a year minimum income, but the application process is notoriously slow. Luna: And Thailand's new LTR visa targets high earners — I think it's something like $80,000 a year for most people, but drops to $40,000 if you have a master's degree or own a business. Lucas: Right. And what's fascinating is that these visas are starting to shape hiring patterns. Companies like Airbnb and Spotahome have built internal 'nomad policies' — they track where employees want to go and help with visa paperwork, but they also put guardrails around time zones and data security. Luna: And I've heard that some companies are writing 'nomad clauses' into employment contracts. Like, you can work from anywhere, but you have to be in the same time zone as your team for at least four hours a day, and you're responsible for your own tax compliance. Lucas: Speaking of tax — that's the messy part. If you're an American living in Portugal, you still owe US taxes. And Portugal might also want a cut. There are double-taxation treaties, but they're complex. I spoke with a tax attorney who said the fastest-growing part of her practice is helping remote workers figure out residency rules. Luna: Yeah, and that's where the phrase 'tax nexus' comes in — some companies are worried that having an engineer in Spain could create a permanent establishment there, triggering corporate tax liability. So they're limiting nomad visas to countries with safe harbors. Lucas: Exactly. And speaking of having the right support — this episode is brought to you by listeners like you. We keep Future of Work Tech ad-free because of people who chip in at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. If today's conversation gave you something usable — maybe you're thinking about a nomad visa yourself, or you're a manager wrestling with location-based pay — and you want to help keep this show independent, that link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, just a way to say 'this matters.' Luna: And honestly, your support directly helps us dig into stories like this one — finding real companies, real numbers, real people navigating these changes. Lucas: So back to the data point that surprised me most: 42% of digital nomads are married with children. That's from a 2025 survey by MBO Partners. The stereotype of the solo backpacker with a laptop is fading fast. Luna: That changes everything. If you've got kids, you're thinking about schools, healthcare, stability — not just beach Wi-Fi. Lucas: Right. And that's pushing some countries to offer more than just a visa. For example, Uruguay's new digital nomad program includes a fast-track for family members and access to local healthcare. And Greece offers a 50% tax break for the first seven years. Luna: Okay, so for a company like NexaSoft, how do they square the circle? They want global talent, but they don't want to overpay or lose culture. Lucas: A few models are emerging. One is the 'hub and spoke' approach — the company has physical hubs in three or four cities, and employees can rotate through them. That's what Spotahome does: hubs in Madrid, Berlin, and Mexico City. Luna: Another model is what some call 'geo-neutral' pay — you set a single global salary for each role, regardless of location. Buffer and GitLab have tried that, but it tends to be higher than local markets and lower than Silicon Valley, so it can be a tough sell either way. Lucas: And then there's the 'base plus adjustment' model: a global base salary, plus a cost of living adjustment that changes if you move. That's what NexaSoft eventually adopted. It's not perfect, but it's transparent. Luna: Transparency seems key. I think the companies that get this right are the ones that communicate openly about why they pay what they pay, rather than making it a secret formula. Lucas: Totally. And as more countries launch these visas — I've heard Mexico and Japan are both drafting theirs — the pressure on companies to have a clear policy will only grow. Because the genie is not going back in the bottle. Luna: No kidding. So if you're a founder listening, what's the one thing you should do this week? Lucas: Audit where your people actually are. Not where their home address is on file. Then decide: do you want to enable that mobility, or constrain it? Because right now, your employees are probably already making that decision for themselves. Luna: And if you're an employee considering a nomad visa, do your homework on the tax side first. A cheap rent isn't worth a surprise tax bill. Lucas: Well said. And that's our show for today. Next time on Future of Work Tech with Fexingo, we're looking at how no-code tools are finally eating into the IT department's turf. See you then.