Latest / Movie Meltdown / Pardcast Meltdown... with Jimmy Pardo
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- 0:09Speaker 1: I'm Yafit Khodo, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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- 0:44Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
- 1:14Speaker 3: More cooling in the containment chamber. To your citizens, we
- 1:17Speaker 3: have a movie meltdown.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Jimmy was the kind of guy who rooted for the
- 1:21Speaker 1: bad guys in the movie.
- 1:31Speaker 4: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
- 1:34Speaker 5: I'm Lucy.
- 1:34Speaker 6: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
- 1:37Speaker 6: Jimmy's house, your temporary place.
- 1:39Speaker 4: This week's special guest, Jimmy Pardo, has joined us.
- 1:43Speaker 7: Hello.
- 1:43Speaker 8: Hello.
- 1:45Speaker 1: We could probably say my suite, right? Doesn't that sound
- 1:47Speaker 1: more impressive if you say we're in my suite?
- 1:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:49Speaker 5: Is this a penthouse suite?
- 1:50Speaker 1: Let's just call it that. We're on the main floor.
- 1:53Speaker 1: It's audio.
- 1:54Speaker 4: They don't know.
- 1:55Speaker 9: I could have gone along with the theater of the mind. Yes,
- 1:57Speaker 9: we're in the penthouse suite.
- 1:58Speaker 4: 30th floor out overlooking the entire city. It's fabulous.
- 2:02Speaker 9: Is there a hotel in town with 30 floors?
- 2:05Speaker 4: What's the God House?
- 2:06Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 2:06Speaker 5: It has a rotating bar on top.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Yeah, it has a huge number of rooms and quite
- 2:10Speaker 4: a few floors.
- 2:11Speaker 1: It might.
- 2:12Speaker 4: I don't know about 30. It's got to be 20, though.
- 2:14Speaker 9: All right.
- 2:15Speaker 4: It's a high rise.
- 2:15Speaker 10: All right.
- 2:16Speaker 9: Well, thanks for coming by, guys.
- 2:17Speaker 4: It's a delight.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Thanks for coming by for architecture talk.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 2:20Speaker 5: Thanks for having us over.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Sure.
- 2:21Speaker 4: Definitely. I guess to lead in, you have met Mr.
- 2:26Speaker 4: Pardo before. I have. And he doesn't know the ways.
- 2:28Speaker 1: He doesn't.
- 2:29Speaker 4: He's terrified of your story.
- 2:30Speaker 1: I am very terrified.
- 2:31Speaker 7: I'm letting him stew in fear. We met in the
- 2:33Speaker 7: lobby about 15 minutes ago, and I said, I've met
- 2:35Speaker 7: you before. I'm holding the story.
- 2:38Speaker 9: And what look did I have in my face?
- 2:40Speaker 1: Like, oh, good Lord.
- 2:41Speaker 5: Abject terror.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Yes.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Okay, go.
- 2:46Speaker 5: No, it's actually a delightful story.
- 2:47Speaker 9: Is it a nice story?
- 2:48Speaker 5: There's no children you need to know about. There's no scandal.
- 2:51Speaker 4: Let's bring that on him later. It's okay.
- 2:55Speaker 5: I went to see your match game.
- 2:57Speaker 8: Oh, goodness.
- 2:58Speaker 7: The Upright Citizens Brigade Theater. And it was the first
- 3:01Speaker 7: time I ever went, and I was picked as a contestant.
- 3:03Speaker 1: You were a contestant on a match game?
- 3:04Speaker 7: So I got to be a contestant on a match game.
- 3:05Speaker 7: And it was one of the greatest experiences of my life,
- 3:08Speaker 7: even though I lost.
- 3:10Speaker 9: Now let me tell you something, Lucy.
- 3:12Speaker 1: In the lobby, when you said it was a great experience,
- 3:14Speaker 1: I thought you were being hyperbolic.
- 3:18Speaker 9: I thought you were exaggerating. But you know what? I'm
- 3:20Speaker 9: not going to lie to you.
- 3:21Speaker 1: I get it because those match games were something special.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Truly something special. With six of the funniest people in
- 3:28Speaker 1: the world and me. And then you had a chance
- 3:32Speaker 1: to win money. But those were just magical. So you're welcome.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Who was on the panel?
- 3:38Speaker 9: Do you remember?
- 3:39Speaker 7: I do remember. And I'll tell you my story. And
- 3:41Speaker 7: I've told this story often throughout the years. Because while
- 3:43Speaker 7: I lost, I felt that I did, in fact, celebrate
- 3:45Speaker 7: a moral victory of some sort. Bart Braverman was the
- 3:49Speaker 7: classic contestant.
- 3:50Speaker 5: I was on the Bart Braverman.
- 3:51Speaker 9: Bart was on twice.
- 3:52Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I was half of those times.
- 3:54Speaker 5: I was a contestant. And it was your lovely wife.
- 3:59Speaker 7: Oh.
- 4:00Speaker 5: And Scott Aukerman.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 4:02Speaker 5: And, oh gosh, I want to say Doug Benson.
- 4:04Speaker 9: My wife is Danielle Kandick, by the way, for the
- 4:06Speaker 9: at-home listeners.
- 4:06Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, of course.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Sorry.
- 4:08Speaker 5: I thought that went without saying.
- 4:10Speaker 7: And golly, golly, I'm not super sure who the final
- 4:13Speaker 7: two celebrity panelists were.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Rip Torn. Rip Torn. What's interesting about that is it
- 4:19Speaker 1: was early on, because Braverman was on some of the
- 4:23Speaker 1: early match games. He had come to see the show.
- 4:25Speaker 9: Somebody told Bart Braverman about it And.
- 4:30Speaker 1: He came to watch it once. And then when it
- 4:32Speaker 1: was over, I said, so would you like to do it?
- 4:34Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know. You guys, you know, there's
- 4:37Speaker 1: a meanness to the show.
- 4:38Speaker 9: And I was like, well, we're a bunch.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Of sarcastic comedians.
- 4:41Speaker 4: What did you expect?
- 4:42Speaker 9: And he's like, well, the way.
- 4:44Speaker 1: And then he misunderstood something with a contestant who ended
- 4:48Speaker 1: up being April Richardson, the comedian. She was a contestant.
- 4:52Speaker 1: And he thought that we brought her on stage to
- 4:55Speaker 1: ridicule her. and I don't know if this is, I
- 4:59Speaker 1: don't know why I'm telling this out loud. Um, and
- 5:01Speaker 1: I said, she volunteered to be a contestant. He goes, Oh, well,
- 5:04Speaker 1: fuck it.
- 5:04Speaker 9: Let's do it.
- 5:06Speaker 4: Like he really didn't get the concept.
- 5:07Speaker 1: He didn't get, but then when he came on the show, uh,
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know, cause he was on the original match game and,
- 5:11Speaker 1: and was he on Vegas? Is that what he's famous for? Uh,
- 5:13Speaker 1: so what was it?
- 5:15Speaker 9: Vega, Vega dollar sign, I think is what we call it.
- 5:17Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 5:18Speaker 1: So he, um, uh, so he did it. I think
- 5:20Speaker 1: he did it twice. And then, uh, all of a
- 5:22Speaker 1: sudden it, uh, you know, we, we also from the
- 5:24Speaker 1: original had, um, Edie McClurg came on.
- 5:27Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's huge.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And one other person from the original match game. Oh,
- 5:30Speaker 1: the great Marshall Wallace came and did it a few times.
- 5:33Speaker 1: But then we ended up getting shut down for legal reasons.
- 5:37Speaker 6: I was going to say, it seems like that whole
- 5:39Speaker 6: scene's restructured and has changed twice since that stuff, at least. Well,
- 5:45Speaker 6: the whole comedy scene. It seems like there's new waves
- 5:47Speaker 6: that keep coming in.
- 5:48Speaker 9: Well, we were shut down by Fremantle.
- 5:49Speaker 4: At least you have a good reason why it's not.
- 5:51Speaker 9: Yes.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Oh, we would have kept doing match game as long
- 5:54Speaker 1: as I wanted to because it was Scott and I
- 5:56Speaker 1: would produce it but we got it was exhausting and
- 6:00Speaker 1: in a way I was relieved when Fremantle said stop
- 6:03Speaker 1: you don't have the rights to this stop doing it.
- 6:05Speaker 5: Legally we have no choice but to shut this down yeah.
- 6:08Speaker 9: So tell me your story.
- 6:09Speaker 7: So my story is that I was in the lead
- 6:12Speaker 7: and I was feeling pretty good about it. I really
- 6:13Speaker 7: felt like I had a shot at this thing. It
- 6:15Speaker 7: was kind of a dream come true. And we get to,
- 6:18Speaker 7: I have to do a match. I feel like I'm,
- 6:20Speaker 7: I can't remember what the point situation was. But the
- 6:23Speaker 7: question was, or the potential match was, dumb.
- 6:28Speaker 5: Doris is so dumb.
- 6:29Speaker 9: How dumb is she?
- 6:30Speaker 5: Oh, thank you for the cue.
- 6:32Speaker 7: Dumb Doris is so dumb that she needs a recipe
- 6:35Speaker 7: to make blank. Dumb Norris is so dumb that she
- 6:38Speaker 7: needs a recipe to make blank.
- 6:40Speaker 8: Well.
- 6:40Speaker 4: I was going with toast, but all right.
- 6:41Speaker 5: Ice cubes, that's what you think. Because that's the obvious first.
- 6:45Speaker 5: I mean, that's like the.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Can I ask what... This is the third round. This
- 6:48Speaker 1: is the one where.
- 6:49Speaker 5: There's a lot riding.
- 6:49Speaker 1: You're supposed to match.
- 6:51Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Okay.
- 6:52Speaker 7: But my feeling was, I've got one shot at this thing.
- 6:56Speaker 7: I always wanted to be on Match Game. If you
- 6:58Speaker 7: were in a game show in the 70s, and the
- 7:01Speaker 7: option is make blank.
- 7:04Speaker 5: What do you make?
- 7:05Speaker 3: Whoopie.
- 7:05Speaker 5: You make whoopie.
- 7:07Speaker 1: But not in this case. This is recipe.
- 7:10Speaker 5: She needs a recipe to make whoopie.
- 7:13Speaker 4: There's books out there. I thought it was hilarious.
- 7:17Speaker 5: And I say it.
- 7:17Speaker 4: It's a horrible.
- 7:18Speaker 5: It's a terrible answer.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And did the audience boo you?
- 7:21Speaker 5: No, it just went silent. And then there was a
- 7:23Speaker 5: couple of really sympathetic.
- 7:25Speaker 1: You heard it? You heard shoulders go down?
- 7:27Speaker 5: I could hear the shoulders go down.
- 7:28Speaker 7: And it was so disheartening to me because I was
- 7:30Speaker 7: so proud of the answer. And then one by one,
- 7:34Speaker 7: my dreams were crushed. Scott Ackerman, ice. Your lovely wife, Danielle, ice.
- 7:38Speaker 7: Everybody ice except one person. And who is the one person.
- 7:41Speaker 5: Who knew that you make Whoopi?
- 7:43Speaker 1: Bart Braverman said Whoopi.
- 7:44Speaker 5: He said Whoopi. And it was all worth it. It
- 7:46Speaker 5: was worth it.
- 7:46Speaker 9: Now, you met Whoopi Goldberg, right? That's the angle you
- 7:50Speaker 9: were taking.
- 7:50Speaker 4: Somebody needed a recipe to put that together, right?
- 7:52Speaker 1: Right, because I can't figure it out on a daily basis.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Maybe they're off. Well, I'm sorry. But it's your fault.
- 7:59Speaker 1: It's a horrible answer.
- 8:01Speaker 4: Well, it's your fault for growing up when you did.
- 8:02Speaker 6: If you were anyone else in the next generation.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Disagree. Still a horrible answer. Horrible answer. It's about food.
- 8:10Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
- 8:12Speaker 5: It's always about making whoopie.
- 8:13Speaker 6: There's whoopie websites, too. There's recipe books. There's websites. There's
- 8:17Speaker 6: options out there.
- 8:18Speaker 5: I felt like it was in the spirit of the show.
- 8:19Speaker 5: I stand by my answer.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you're saying, yet at the
- 8:23Speaker 1: same time, it's the worst answer in the world.
- 8:25Speaker 5: Well, it cost me however much money.
- 8:27Speaker 9: You could have won $ 200 if I'm not mistaken.
- 8:28Speaker 7: I could have won $ 200, but do you know what
- 8:30Speaker 7: I got instead?
- 8:31Speaker 9: What fun, stupid trinket did you get?
- 8:33Speaker 5: I got Jimmy Pardo paraphernalia.
- 8:35Speaker 4: Oh, this was early on.
- 8:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a CD, so worth it.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Oh, we ended up giving away, like I would end
- 8:40Speaker 1: up going to the clearance bin at Target and buying
- 8:42Speaker 1: stupid things from the As Seen on TV stuff.
- 8:45Speaker 9: But yeah, that was really early on. So you got
- 8:47Speaker 9: a Pompous Clown CD?
- 8:50Speaker 5: Maybe.
- 8:50Speaker 9: Is that what it was?
- 8:51Speaker 5: I don't remember what it was. I mean, I listen
- 8:53Speaker 5: to it all the time.
- 8:54Speaker 1: It sounds like you do. Although in fairness, I don't
- 8:56Speaker 1: trust anything you say because you had the worst answer
- 8:58Speaker 1: in the history. Although that's a great, but there's been
- 9:00Speaker 1: times over the years where we had horrible, like people
- 9:03Speaker 1: just didn't understand match game.
- 9:05Speaker 9: Like they would give us answers.
- 9:06Speaker 4: At least it was strategy, yeah.
- 9:08Speaker 1: And they would like, yeah, or they would try to
- 9:10Speaker 1: be too funny, the contestants. And it was like, that's
- 9:12Speaker 1: not your job. Your job is to try to. You're
- 9:14Speaker 1: the straight man. Yeah, you're the straight man. Exactly. So good.
- 9:17Speaker 1: All right. Well, nice to see you again.
- 9:19Speaker 7: So nice to see you again, Jimmy, after all these years.
- 9:21Speaker 1: My pleasure. I'm so happy we were able to reunite.
- 9:23Speaker 9: I'm glad you can.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Enjoy my CD that you can't remember the name of.
- 9:25Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to hurt my feelings at all.
- 9:27Speaker 9: I'll be fine.
- 9:28Speaker 4: We'll introduce your son later. And that's, you know, when
- 9:30Speaker 4: the lawyer letter comes.
- 9:31Speaker 3: Sure.
- 9:33Speaker 9: No, I was married by then.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I would not. She would not.
- 9:35Speaker 4: As far as you know.
- 9:37Speaker 1: No, I was married by then. It's my earlier days
- 9:39Speaker 1: that I live in fear of.
- 9:42Speaker 6: Well, that's a good intro to how many different things
- 9:45Speaker 6: you've done over the years. I kind of wanted to
- 9:47Speaker 6: enter in on the one that maybe it's a toss
- 9:50Speaker 6: up what you're most known for now, but obviously podcast.
- 9:54Speaker 6: I want to have a podcasting conference at this point
- 9:57Speaker 6: because you've been you're one of the few people I
- 9:59Speaker 6: can run into and go, oh, he's actually been doing
- 10:01Speaker 6: it longer than I have.
- 10:02Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a plus or minus. We're
- 10:04Speaker 4: in our eighth year now.
- 10:05Speaker 9: So, yeah, it's I started to be 10 years in March.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy for both of us. It's crazy. I mean, because,
- 10:12Speaker 1: you know, as well as I do, you know, eight
- 10:14Speaker 1: years ago, nobody knew what a podcast was. Nobody cared.
- 10:16Speaker 1: And so what I would ask people to be a guest,
- 10:18Speaker 1: they would be like, well, we just come to your
- 10:20Speaker 1: house and sit.
- 10:20Speaker 9: Around a dining room table.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And now we have a studio and everything. It's grown
- 10:25Speaker 1: over the years. But of course, we're talking about the
- 10:27Speaker 1: award-winning Never Not Funny. So yes, I've been doing a podcast.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Do you think that's what I'm most known for? I
- 10:33Speaker 1: would think that it is at this point. Or Conan.
- 10:35Speaker 4: I'm known for Conan.
- 10:36Speaker 6: I think for the audience that's currently listening, probably because
- 10:39Speaker 6: they know podcasts. But if you go out in the world,
- 10:41Speaker 6: it may just be comedy. It may just be stand-up.
- 10:44Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 10:44Speaker 4: I think it depends who you hit. Again, it may
- 10:46Speaker 4: be a generational thing, too.
- 10:48Speaker 1: It's, you know, game show nerds know me because I
- 10:50Speaker 1: hosted a show called National Lampoon's Funny Money back in 2004. And,
- 10:54Speaker 1: of course, National Lampoon's Funny Money, that's a game show
- 10:56Speaker 1: where big laughs get you big bucks and then get
- 10:57Speaker 1: you canceled. And then I just hosted a game show
- 11:00Speaker 1: called Race to Escape. So game show nerds know me
- 11:03Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. And then comedy nerds, I guess, know
- 11:06Speaker 1: me for comedy. And then podcasting is, everybody kind of.
- 11:08Speaker 9: Knows me from that.
- 11:09Speaker 4: It's its own world now.
- 11:10Speaker 9: Yeah. And then Conan, for, you know, a lot of
- 11:13Speaker 9: people know me from Conan, so.
- 11:15Speaker 6: But that was my thing is wanting to discuss, again,
- 11:18Speaker 6: with somebody who understands and has made it work. I
- 11:22Speaker 6: think that's more of my question is what was the,
- 11:25Speaker 6: I guess, what was it that got you.
- 11:26Speaker 4: Into it first? What led you into podcasting? It's a
- 11:29Speaker 4: scary story.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I've told the story before, and I will repeat it
- 11:32Speaker 1: because it comes close to the territory of interesting.
- 11:38Speaker 9: I was doing a live at the UCB.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Again, I was doing a live talk show, or a
- 11:42Speaker 1: better way to put it is a non-televised talk show.
- 11:45Speaker 9: Uh nowhere uh called uh.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Running your trap and a guy named matt belknap who
- 11:49Speaker 1: is now my co-host and producer for 10 years i
- 11:51Speaker 1: like that guy uh great guy and he was just
- 11:53Speaker 1: a fan he was a guy that ran a special thing.com
- 11:56Speaker 1: that the alternative comedy message board and he would come
- 11:59Speaker 1: to a lot of shows at the m bar when
- 12:02Speaker 1: when comedy death ray which is now comedy bang bang
- 12:04Speaker 1: was at m bar then we moved to the ucb
- 12:06Speaker 1: when that opened uh and i moved over there because
- 12:08Speaker 1: i don't know if you know i i started in
- 12:10Speaker 1: chicago i started with matt besser and matt walsh and.
- 12:14Speaker 9: Horatio Sands.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I knew a little bit, and Adam McKay I knew,
- 12:17Speaker 1: and I did not know Amy Poehler, but Matt and
- 12:21Speaker 1: I would do open mics and stuff together. So when
- 12:22Speaker 1: they were bringing the UCB from New York to LA,
- 12:25Speaker 1: they were like, hey, we want you to be part
- 12:27Speaker 1: of the scene. We loved working with you in Chicago.
- 12:31Speaker 1: And because they were new, they needed to fill time slots.
- 12:35Speaker 1: So I was doing like three shows a month when
- 12:37Speaker 1: they first opened the UCB. And so I would do
- 12:39Speaker 1: game shows, and I would do talk show, and I
- 12:41Speaker 1: would host a stand-up thing, and whatever they needed me
- 12:44Speaker 1: to do, so I was doing this talk show called
- 12:47Speaker 1: Running Your Trap, and Matt Belknap became a huge fan,
- 12:50Speaker 1: and he would come and watch it, and he'd watch
- 12:53Speaker 1: the game shows, he would watch whatever I was doing,
- 12:54Speaker 1: and And Ricky Gervais was doing a podcast at the time.
- 12:58Speaker 4: About the only other person who can claim before.
- 13:01Speaker 8: Right?
- 13:01Speaker 1: And it's the only one that I had ever heard of.
- 13:03Speaker 1: In fact, I remember after Ricky's, I was like, this
- 13:08Speaker 1: is a neat format. And then I ended up listening
- 13:09Speaker 1: to old Abbott and Costello's because other than tech stuff,
- 13:13Speaker 1: there really weren't a lot of podcasts. And I guess I,
- 13:17Speaker 1: in a way, I want people that don't know me
- 13:21Speaker 1: it's really unfair of me. It's, I want them to go, well,
- 13:23Speaker 1: what's number not funny, Jimmy Porto? Oh, I'll listen to that.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Yet I didn't give anybody else a chance when I
- 13:27Speaker 1: started listening to podcasts. Like Dawn and Drew were a
- 13:29Speaker 1: big podcast, but I didn't even give them a second.
- 13:32Speaker 6: The first one I heard about was music themed. And like,
- 13:35Speaker 6: it was a guy who I actually knew who was
- 13:38Speaker 6: like a DJ or was pretending to be a DJ
- 13:41Speaker 6: and started like putting together his own mixes and he
- 13:44Speaker 6: was releasing them as episodes. And I was like, Wait,
- 13:47Speaker 6: what the hell? So I went in thinking it was
- 13:49Speaker 6: mostly music oriented. And it was like six or eight
- 13:52Speaker 6: months later, I heard the first one of people talking
- 13:54Speaker 6: and went, oh, this is what you can do.
- 13:56Speaker 4: Oh, these guys are terrible. Hell, I can do better
- 13:59Speaker 4: than this. Isn't that funny? That was the first.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Thought I had. And I don't know anything about Dawn
- 14:03Speaker 1: and Drew because I didn't listen to them. But again,
- 14:04Speaker 1: they were popular at the time. And I'll circle back
- 14:07Speaker 1: to that because it addresses what you just said. So
- 14:10Speaker 1: Matt said, why don't we turn Running Your Trap into
- 14:12Speaker 1: a podcast? And I don't.
- 14:15Speaker 9: I didn't know what that meant.
- 14:16Speaker 1: I mean, I knew Ricky Gervais had one, but I
- 14:18Speaker 1: didn't know I could have one.
- 14:20Speaker 4: They were issued to you, or you had to get
- 14:21Speaker 4: a license.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Yeah, the podcasting authority is going to give it to you.
- 14:25Speaker 1: But Matt was also doing a thing called AST Radio,
- 14:27Speaker 1: which was a dry, and I say dry in a complimentary,
- 14:32Speaker 1: about the craft of comedy. And so he interviewed me
- 14:35Speaker 1: for that, and then he said to me, you know,
- 14:38Speaker 1: I would have a heck of a lot more fun
- 14:39Speaker 1: producing your podcast than hosting mine. So why don't we
- 14:43Speaker 1: turn Running Your Trap into a podcast? So the first couple,
- 14:46Speaker 1: which are long, burned, he recorded, we recorded just my
- 14:51Speaker 1: live show at the UCB. And I think there's a
- 14:54Speaker 1: clip online on YouTube of me talking about that. And
- 14:58Speaker 1: then got away from that and said, let's just do
- 15:01Speaker 1: it like a radio show. So we started it at
- 15:03Speaker 1: my dining room. Me and Matt and Mike Schmidt was
- 15:06Speaker 1: the third person for the first year. And to speak
- 15:10Speaker 1: to what you said about people being good at it,
- 15:12Speaker 1: nobody knew what a podcast was really except for tech people.
- 15:15Speaker 1: So we had a professional sounding show, you know, hosted
- 15:18Speaker 1: by a professional comedian with another professional comedian is the,
- 15:21Speaker 1: is the, uh, basically it's a cohost for the first
- 15:23Speaker 1: year with a, with the professional comedians coming out as guests.
- 15:27Speaker 1: And it sounds, so it sounded great.
- 15:28Speaker 9: And it was funny.
- 15:28Speaker 1: So all these tech people were like, Oh, somebody is
- 15:31Speaker 1: finally not just talking to the microphone on their computer.
- 15:34Speaker 1: And we shot up the chart and the people at
- 15:36Speaker 1: iTunes took a light guy, specifically a guy named Scott Simpson, uh,
- 15:39Speaker 1: took a liking to us.
- 15:40Speaker 9: And so he would feature us all the time.
- 15:41Speaker 1: So for, I would say the first three to four months,
- 15:44Speaker 1: it wasn't, it was some comedy people from AST special thing.com.
- 15:48Speaker 9: Cause Matt was able to promote it there.
- 15:50Speaker 1: But it was mostly tech people who were fine because they,
- 15:54Speaker 1: they're the ones that knew about podcasting.
- 15:55Speaker 6: And if you listen to them, even like, I will
- 15:57Speaker 6: see people very tech oriented on YouTube, put together a clip.
- 16:00Speaker 6: I'm like, good God, this is the most boring thing
- 16:02Speaker 6: I've ever, like they know the tech end of it,
- 16:04Speaker 6: but they're not necessarily entertaining. So hearing guys who were,
- 16:07Speaker 6: it's probably a big change at that.
- 16:09Speaker 1: It was. And you know, and, and then Corolla came
- 16:11Speaker 1: quick after they started turning his morning radio show into a,
- 16:14Speaker 1: you know, into a podcast.
- 16:15Speaker 9: And then, He, of course, the legal stuff that happens.
- 16:20Speaker 1: And now, of course, you know, it's where we are
- 16:21Speaker 1: with podcasting, where it's I like to say I'm the
- 16:24Speaker 1: beta tape because VHS is now more popular.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Yeah, it's had a comeback. I don't know about beta.
- 16:31Speaker 9: Well, it's a better quality, better format.
- 16:35Speaker 4: It didn't have the big cool boxes.
- 16:37Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 16:39Speaker 6: Well, that was, I mean, that was the thing getting
- 16:41Speaker 6: into where I did, and then I wanted to see
- 16:44Speaker 6: what was, I guess that was the turning point for
- 16:47Speaker 6: you was just getting featured, or is it, because that's what,
- 16:51Speaker 6: I'm looking at it now, because now, because we were
- 16:53Speaker 6: doing relatively well back when there weren't that many. And
- 16:56Speaker 6: like three years ago, there started to be this shift,
- 16:59Speaker 6: or maybe even a little before that, when suddenly everybody
- 17:03Speaker 6: started to figure out what it was.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Right.
- 17:04Speaker 4: Everybody started going, oh, I can do that too. And then,
- 17:07Speaker 4: Everybody had a show.
- 17:08Speaker 6: And this last year and a half, like literally, like
- 17:10Speaker 6: for a while, I didn't know of anyone else here
- 17:12Speaker 6: doing it. Now there's like 20 guys that I just
- 17:15Speaker 6: know about. There's 50 others I don't know about. That
- 17:18Speaker 6: have all sprung up in the last year and a half,
- 17:20Speaker 6: two years. So I'm like, now how do we define ourselves?
- 17:24Speaker 6: How do we get, as any show, how do you
- 17:25Speaker 6: get out there and find your audience when you're lost
- 17:29Speaker 6: in the sea of other shows?
- 17:30Speaker 1: It's crazy, right?
- 17:32Speaker 9: And we got caught in that week too.
- 17:33Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Because everybody that was like a guest on my show
- 17:36Speaker 1: now has a podcast.
- 17:37Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
- 17:39Speaker 1: And, you know, we did our, so it was not
- 17:42Speaker 1: a disservice, because at the time, podcasting hadn't taken off yet,
- 17:45Speaker 1: where we went to a pay format.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:47Speaker 1: And so we ended up going behind this paywall literally
- 17:50Speaker 1: three months before the comedy podcast boom happened. So it
- 17:53Speaker 1: was like we would battle it out with The Onion
- 17:55Speaker 1: for the top spot, you know, with me and The Onion,
- 17:57Speaker 1: and there was a couple more that were in the
- 17:59Speaker 1: top five, but like we would all, the five of
- 18:01Speaker 1: us would basically rotate for the top comedy podcast.
- 18:03Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 18:04Speaker 9: You all right, Luce? All right.
- 18:05Speaker 1: And, um, and then all of a sudden we go
- 18:07Speaker 1: behind the paywall because I just, I felt like, honestly,
- 18:10Speaker 1: I felt like I was doing cable access. Like I,
- 18:13Speaker 1: here I am this professional comedian who's been on television,
- 18:15Speaker 1: who's tours the country and I'm doing this thing at my.
- 18:18Speaker 9: Dining room table.
- 18:19Speaker 1: And I kind of felt like a, you know, like
- 18:21Speaker 1: a pathetic idiot.
- 18:22Speaker 9: Like who's listening.
- 18:23Speaker 1: I know people are listening, but you know, right. And
- 18:26Speaker 1: it's like, so why bother? And so we decided to
- 18:28Speaker 1: go to this pay format and, um, At the time,
- 18:31Speaker 1: I mean, it was a combination of, you got it, man.
- 18:34Speaker 1: You're the funniest guy in the world. You're the greatest
- 18:35Speaker 1: show in the world. We're here to support you, and
- 18:37Speaker 1: go fuck yourself. The last thing I'm going to do
- 18:39Speaker 1: is pay you for a podcast because people don't pay
- 18:41Speaker 1: for podcasts.
- 18:42Speaker 4: That's what I was going to ask. Did you see
- 18:43Speaker 4: a massive drop-off? Oh!
- 18:45Speaker 1: It was... We didn't see a huge drop-off. Although we
- 18:49Speaker 1: were prepared for that, we even said, if it's a
- 18:52Speaker 1: huge drop-off, we tried it, and we'll bail on it.
- 18:54Speaker 1: And we gave it a try, and good luck to podcasting,
- 18:57Speaker 1: something that will never last.
- 18:58Speaker 9: We're in 10 years now.
- 18:59Speaker 11: But.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Uh, yo, we got just, we got hate mail and
- 19:03Speaker 1: people would review us on, on, on iTunes. Just saying
- 19:06Speaker 1: this show sucks. They charge money. Well, you know what?
- 19:09Speaker 4: When doesn't have anything to do with the show, right?
- 19:11Speaker 9: Dumbass.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Um, but then we, you know, we, but we, then
- 19:16Speaker 1: all these other podcasts came, you know, Hardwick and, and
- 19:19Speaker 1: Aukerman had been doing his, of course, and Doug Benson.
- 19:22Speaker 1: And then here comes Mark Marin and all these guys. And,
- 19:24Speaker 1: you know, you know, Marin had that Carlos Mencia controversy.
- 19:27Speaker 1: And then, uh, uh, Hardwick had Tom Hanks and, Scott.
- 19:31Speaker 1: And so like we started getting passed by and fine
- 19:33Speaker 1: because we went behind this paywall.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:36Speaker 1: And so we're kind of, we kind of became this
- 19:37Speaker 1: neat cult podcast and, um, you know, we just kept
- 19:41Speaker 1: going and, you know, here we are. And, you know,
- 19:43Speaker 1: it's a, you know, I know our numbers at some
- 19:45Speaker 1: point suffered because of that didn't listenership, but you know,
- 19:48Speaker 1: we're here now. And, uh, doing a 10 years and,
- 19:51Speaker 1: you know, I, people still say we're the best. And
- 19:54Speaker 1: I am flattered by that.
- 19:57Speaker 6: I want to figure out what do you think? Cause I,
- 19:59Speaker 6: I keep telling people, I'm like, there's a change coming.
- 20:02Speaker 6: Like media has already changed and the people haven't caught
- 20:05Speaker 6: up with it yet. I'm like, five years, maybe like,
- 20:08Speaker 6: I think we're going to hit a hard corner because
- 20:11Speaker 6: it's funny. Like that, that's what I'm going to ask
- 20:12Speaker 6: you is what, what do you think will legitimize it
- 20:15Speaker 6: at some point? Cause I still feel like, like people
- 20:17Speaker 6: will look at what we're doing as ridiculous, but a
- 20:21Speaker 6: real job is radio, like traditional radio. And I will
- 20:25Speaker 6: listen to some talk and regular music related. And it's
- 20:29Speaker 6: some of the worst things I've ever heard. Like they're,
- 20:31Speaker 6: What they're presenting out there to the masses as a
- 20:34Speaker 6: quote-unquote real job is sometimes horrible.
- 20:36Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, it's atrocious.
- 20:37Speaker 6: So, I mean, why is it that they're treated as
- 20:39Speaker 6: though they actually have a real job and we're just
- 20:41Speaker 6: a joke?
- 20:42Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. You know what? Well, I think... You know,
- 20:44Speaker 1: I make fun of the fact that everybody, you know,
- 20:46Speaker 1: acts like Sarah Koenig invented podcasting with cereal, but she
- 20:50Speaker 1: did put a spotlight on it, you know? So she
- 20:53Speaker 1: made it.
- 20:53Speaker 9: That made a huge difference.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Yeah. Maren getting the president made a huge difference. Pretty
- 20:58Speaker 1: big deal. So all of a sudden, you know.
- 21:01Speaker 9: I think more and more people know about podcast. But
- 21:03Speaker 9: even my.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Dad will still say, how's the pod going?
- 21:07Speaker 9: He doesn't know what it is. And that's all right.
- 21:09Speaker 1: It's not for him.
- 21:09Speaker 4: I run into that a lot.
- 21:11Speaker 1: How's your little thing going? Do you still get that?
- 21:14Speaker 9: But I think it's going to be... I think it's
- 21:16Speaker 9: going to be one of these.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Almost like the stand-up comedy boom of the late 80s,
- 21:23Speaker 1: early 90s, where everybody had one. Everybody was going to
- 21:26Speaker 1: be a comedian. Any a-hole that was told they were
- 21:28Speaker 1: funny around the office started doing comedy. And you know,
- 21:31Speaker 1: as cliched as it is, the cream rises, and then
- 21:34Speaker 1: the rest just go, well, I gave it a shot.
- 21:36Speaker 1: So I think that's going to happen with podcasting, too.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Or people will keep doing it, and their 10 friends
- 21:41Speaker 1: will listen. And that's what's great about podcasting.
- 21:43Speaker 6: It will get to that point at some point. If
- 21:45Speaker 6: everyone has a show, there's no one left to be
- 21:47Speaker 6: the listener.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Exactly, right?
- 21:50Speaker 6: But I'm also waiting to decide, because you have ads now.
- 21:54Speaker 6: I think advertising is going to make that corner happen,
- 21:57Speaker 6: I think. We're still getting such weird fringe companies.
- 22:00Speaker 4: God bless them.
- 22:01Speaker 1: I love them.
- 22:01Speaker 6: But the fact that mainstream stuff is still kind of
- 22:05Speaker 6: like your little joke, no, we're not going to bother
- 22:07Speaker 6: with that.
- 22:07Speaker 4: Which is, I agree with you. It's going to change.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Because if we use Mark Merritt as the example, he
- 22:13Speaker 1: had the president on.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:14Speaker 1: So why wouldn't Pepsi be? I would not.
- 22:17Speaker 9: Why is it still stamps.com?
- 22:19Speaker 4: And, and when we're, when you're listening, cause that's the thing, TV,
- 22:22Speaker 4: I will tune out. I will not watch those ads.
- 22:25Speaker 6: I will mute it if I need to. Like I
- 22:27Speaker 6: never do that on podcasts. No matter what the ad is,
- 22:29Speaker 6: I don't bother to fast forward.
- 22:30Speaker 4: It's a lot of trouble. I'm like, I just listen
- 22:32Speaker 4: to the ad.
- 22:33Speaker 1: And it's usually over within, unless you're on my show
- 22:35Speaker 1: and I make my ads 45 minutes long.
- 22:37Speaker 9: Cause I just like talking. Um, They're gone.
- 22:40Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 22:40Speaker 1: They're there.
- 22:41Speaker 9: Stamps.com. You walk through it, and they're like, oh, okay,
- 22:43Speaker 9: you know what? I'm either going to use it or
- 22:44Speaker 9: I'm not.
- 22:44Speaker 6: And as myself, I'm like, I appreciate whatever that company
- 22:47Speaker 6: is because they're bothering to sponsor.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Something like this. And I think they're on the cutting edge, too,
- 22:52Speaker 1: the companies that are using it. And they're smart because
- 22:54Speaker 1: they know they don't have to drop huge money to
- 22:57Speaker 1: be advertising on, you know, terrestrial.
- 23:00Speaker 9: It's a word that's tough for me to say. But
- 23:03Speaker 9: they're smart.
- 23:04Speaker 1: You know, Casper Mattress or Harry's Razors.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:08Speaker 9: You know, NatureBox.
- 23:09Speaker 1: These are all smart companies that they know, like even.
- 23:13Speaker 9: With my show, they're reaching a lot of people.
- 23:15Speaker 4: It's a specific audience and it's a captive audience. And
- 23:18Speaker 4: it's in your ear. You're not going to escape from
- 23:20Speaker 4: it until the show's over.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Like Mack Weldon is a great example of like, they
- 23:24Speaker 1: listen to my show and they know that I give
- 23:26Speaker 1: a lot of effort to the ads. So like, well,
- 23:28Speaker 1: you know, and they see the results, the return. Jimmy
- 23:31Speaker 1: Pardo has fun with our ads and therefore, and his
- 23:35Speaker 1: followers are loyal. So if we advertise there, it's not
- 23:39Speaker 1: a huge amount of money to advertise, but yet we get.
- 23:41Speaker 9: A great return.
- 23:41Speaker 1: So I think the bigger companies will figure that out.
- 23:44Speaker 1: Yet I love these small companies. Adam and Eve, I think,
- 23:48Speaker 1: was our very first one. No, no, we had a
- 23:50Speaker 1: small independent lingerie company. And the guy's like, hey, you
- 23:54Speaker 1: know what? You joked about having an advertiser. I'd be
- 23:57Speaker 1: happy to advertise. And he It was a very little
- 24:00Speaker 1: amount of money, but we had fun with it, and
- 24:01Speaker 1: it really wasn't for our show, but we tried it.
- 24:04Speaker 6: Well, it's funny that that was, and it seems like
- 24:06Speaker 6: that would be the, like, we don't care where we advertise,
- 24:08Speaker 6: because that, I mean, the huge boom with Flashlight there
- 24:10Speaker 6: for a while, like, that's the only place you ever
- 24:12Speaker 6: heard about it, but it had such a huge impact,
- 24:14Speaker 6: I'm sure, on their company, because where else do you
- 24:17Speaker 6: advertise stuff like that?
- 24:18Speaker 1: And what was the other one, the grill that you
- 24:19Speaker 1: would put on, for the trucker to put on their engine?
- 24:22Speaker 9: That was a big advertising one for a while.
- 24:24Speaker 4: We need George Foreman. That's what we need.
- 24:25Speaker 9: Yeah, we have him.
- 24:26Speaker 4: Where's that at?
- 24:27Speaker 9: We need the boxer.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
- 24:29Speaker 4: I feel like that system has to change. It's just
- 24:32Speaker 4: such a fight.
- 24:33Speaker 6: So I was, yeah, I just kind of wanted to
- 24:34Speaker 6: get your take on it from at least a slight
- 24:37Speaker 6: step ahead. You're way ahead of most people doing what
- 24:40Speaker 6: we do.
- 24:40Speaker 1: But I think it's also, to speak to what you said,
- 24:43Speaker 1: you know, like Alec Baldwin has a podcast. Yeah. And
- 24:46Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. And I think the more famous people that
- 24:49Speaker 1: have it, it'll bring your larger advertisers. Yet at the
- 24:53Speaker 1: same time, hey, Alec Baldwin and Joe Rogan, go do
- 24:55Speaker 1: your career podcast.
- 24:57Speaker 4: Leave us alone.
- 24:58Speaker 1: You already have a career.
- 24:59Speaker 9: Stay out of mine.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Like, I just had the great comedy legend David Steinberg
- 25:03Speaker 1: on my show. And he has a podcast. And I
- 25:05Speaker 1: was like, David, you're directing Curb Your Enthusiasm. Get out
- 25:08Speaker 1: of my world.
- 25:09Speaker 4: You don't need to do this. Stop messing with my stuff.
- 25:11Speaker 1: This is me. This is for us.
- 25:13Speaker 6: That's another point. And actually, the guest last week brought
- 25:16Speaker 6: this up. He was like, it's such a weird little circle.
- 25:20Speaker 6: And you mentioned this, too, that now everyone that was
- 25:22Speaker 6: on your show has a show, do you feel, especially
- 25:25Speaker 6: in the L.A. scene, do you feel like it's become
- 25:27Speaker 6: such a vicious little circle?
- 25:29Speaker 1: It's very incestuous.
- 25:31Speaker 6: Is it doing any good anymore? It's the same people
- 25:33Speaker 6: on all the shows over and over again.
- 25:35Speaker 1: You know, I argue, my head, here, how can I
- 25:41Speaker 1: put this? My heart gets furious when I have, like
- 25:45Speaker 1: I think I'll get somebody out, quote unquote, out of
- 25:48Speaker 1: the box. I'm like, oh, we got this guest. And
- 25:50Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, oh, he's on Hardwick this week, too,
- 25:52Speaker 1: and he's on this this week. This guest that I
- 25:54Speaker 1: thought was going to be the... So my heart gets mad,
- 25:56Speaker 1: but my head knows it makes no difference because... It's
- 26:00Speaker 1: different people. David Steinberg and Jimmy Pardo is going to
- 26:03Speaker 1: be different than he is with Chris Hardwick. So it's
- 26:04Speaker 1: going to be different. It's a different energy in the room.
- 26:07Speaker 1: So it does not... My heart is annoyed by it.
- 26:11Speaker 1: My head understands it's not that big of a deal.
- 26:13Speaker 4: That's what I was telling the guests last week. I
- 26:15Speaker 4: was like, I think we get such different people.
- 26:18Speaker 1: On this show.
- 26:19Speaker 6: And sometimes... bigger names than I will see people in L.A. get,
- 26:22Speaker 6: and we still don't make the impact. And I'm like,
- 26:25Speaker 6: I don't understand. It's not even like the guest makes
- 26:28Speaker 6: the difference. Sometimes it's just the people that you know,
- 26:31Speaker 6: and that gets the word out to other shows and
- 26:32Speaker 6: other fans.
- 26:33Speaker 9: Well, I got news for you.
- 26:34Speaker 1: You're going to get the famous Pardo bump from this one.
- 26:37Speaker 9: Let's do that.
- 26:37Speaker 1: I don't know what Yafit Kodo got you, but Pardo's
- 26:39Speaker 1: going to bring the numbers, baby.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Yafit Kodo, for God's sakes. And it's still... I mean,
- 26:43Speaker 4: it's not much more than most of our other shows.
- 26:45Speaker 4: I'm like, what is wrong with you people?
- 26:47Speaker 1: It's Yaffa Kodo.
- 26:48Speaker 9: No, when you had Yaffa Kodo, was he on the telephone?
- 26:50Speaker 1: No, we sat down in a room with him.
- 26:53Speaker 5: In his suite, which was not as impressive as yours.
- 26:55Speaker 6: It was the presidential suite, but it wasn't overlooking the
- 26:59Speaker 6: wonderful city like this.
- 27:01Speaker 1: So he was here in town, Yaffa Kodo, shooting some
- 27:03Speaker 1: sort of a motion picture?
- 27:04Speaker 5: Indianapolis.
- 27:06Speaker 6: But yeah, he was, again, like it's something like that
- 27:08Speaker 6: that you don't see pop up in that little world.
- 27:11Speaker 4: And yet it's still such a fight to get the
- 27:13Speaker 4: word out about it.
- 27:13Speaker 1: It's, it's more, especially in your world. I mean, you're
- 27:16Speaker 1: fighting with, and I, I talked about this with my buddy,
- 27:18Speaker 1: Pat Francis, who has the great rock solid podcast. Uh,
- 27:21Speaker 1: and he gets great musicians on it. He, and he
- 27:23Speaker 1: does a great job interviewing them and he battles what
- 27:26Speaker 1: you do. Like he just had Sammy Hagar on and
- 27:29Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure he got a nice bump from it, but,
- 27:31Speaker 1: He's competing with podcasts that are sponsored by USA Today
- 27:35Speaker 1: or Entertainment Weekly, and it's the same for you in movies.
- 27:38Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 27:38Speaker 1: If I'm new to podcasting, and I'm like, oh, I
- 27:40Speaker 1: hear about podcasts, and I love movies, and this is
- 27:43Speaker 1: no disrespect for you, and I think you know where
- 27:45Speaker 1: I'm coming from.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Oh, no.
- 27:45Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to yours, because I'm not,
- 27:47Speaker 1: not because I'm, it's because I'm stupid. I'm going to go, oh, well,
- 27:52Speaker 1: Entertainment Weekly probably has the better movie one, because that's
- 27:54Speaker 1: a respectable magazine. Who's this jackass from Louisville? Yeah. I
- 27:58Speaker 1: think it just takes time for people to go, oh,
- 28:00Speaker 1: I like this one by Entertainment Weekly.
- 28:02Speaker 9: Oh, this guy's got Yaffa Kodo. I'll try that one.
- 28:04Speaker 9: So I think it'll be a trickle down.
- 28:06Speaker 4: I keep hoping people come to their senses.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Well, here it comes this week. This is the one.
- 28:10Speaker 1: This is the game changer right here. Suck it, Kodo.
- 28:13Speaker 1: That's what I'll say to you. No, I'm not nuts.
- 28:16Speaker 9: He was in Midnight Run, right? Oh, yeah. And he
- 28:18Speaker 9: was wonderful.
- 28:19Speaker 4: He's amazing.
- 28:20Speaker 9: Okay.
- 28:20Speaker 4: That might be crazy. We're still deciding. He was a
- 28:25Speaker 4: fabulous guest. He's very special, that Yaffa.
- 28:29Speaker 1: He's a great actor he was fantastic actor he is
- 28:31Speaker 1: great actor.
- 28:31Speaker 4: He's still semi-retired I don't remember how he put.
- 28:35Speaker 6: It oh is that true he doesn't even want to
- 28:39Speaker 6: be in the country anymore is the way he put
- 28:40Speaker 6: it by the end he's not thrilled with the way
- 28:42Speaker 6: things are going so yeah again surprised that he's doing
- 28:46Speaker 6: any sort of press if I consider myself.
- 28:48Speaker 1: That that's a strong word I kind of.
- 28:51Speaker 6: Don't because I'm like that's what and dealing with even
- 28:54Speaker 6: people here that do like the film fest and stuff
- 28:57Speaker 6: and I'm like They're.
- 28:58Speaker 4: Like, oh, you do interviews. And I'm like, we're not
- 29:00Speaker 4: like red carpet. Like we're not normal traditional press.
- 29:03Speaker 6: Like this thing we're doing right now is totally different
- 29:05Speaker 6: than most press anywhere else in the world. Like podcasting
- 29:09Speaker 6: is just different than every other form. So it's trying
- 29:12Speaker 6: to convince even people in some level of the industry
- 29:15Speaker 6: sometimes as a fight.
- 29:16Speaker 7: So.
- 29:17Speaker 5: All right.
- 29:17Speaker 6: Well, we've got the podcasting up. But again, it's one
- 29:19Speaker 6: of the few times I have somebody who understands.
- 29:22Speaker 1: And you know what? Maybe if 10 people found that entertaining,
- 29:24Speaker 1: that's a win.
- 29:25Speaker 4: Well, again, I think it's the world we're heading into.
- 29:29Speaker 6: And I think the more people realize how this system works,
- 29:33Speaker 6: the more maybe they'll go, oh, we should probably support
- 29:35Speaker 6: these because they're putting together quality entertainment versus some of
- 29:38Speaker 6: the mainstream crap that's out there. that like i'd be
- 29:41Speaker 6: way more you know willing as a listener to want
- 29:44Speaker 6: to support something like that and just go along with
- 29:46Speaker 6: free stuff that's also terrible.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Well but free is easy and it's what they've known
- 29:50Speaker 1: all their lives and and there's a great you know
- 29:52Speaker 1: bob and tom although bob retired but You know, they've
- 29:56Speaker 1: been great for decades. And there's other great, you know, Tyler, whatever,
- 30:02Speaker 1: out of Omaha. There's great, you know, a horrible name,
- 30:05Speaker 1: but Free Bear and Hot Wings is a great morning show. Like,
- 30:08Speaker 1: there's great, there are great, Steve Dahl in Chicago is
- 30:10Speaker 1: a genius. There's great, Bill Leff in Chicago, Brian Noonan.
- 30:14Speaker 1: There's great radio people. But for the most part, it's like,
- 30:17Speaker 1: I'll hear, even in Los Angeles, oh, Kevin and me
- 30:19Speaker 1: are great.
- 30:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:20Speaker 1: But there's a morning show that I won't give the name,
- 30:23Speaker 1: Heidi and Frank. And they, uh, I don't know how
- 30:27Speaker 1: they're in Los Angeles. It's like, they, it's like, this
- 30:31Speaker 1: is Los Angeles and this is the best you got.
- 30:33Speaker 4: It's just amateur hour. And somehow they're putting it out
- 30:35Speaker 4: on the radio.
- 30:36Speaker 1: And they've been on for 30 years and people listen
- 30:38Speaker 1: to them every day. And, and I'm sure they're great
- 30:40Speaker 1: people and they're nice people. It's not my, by the way,
- 30:42Speaker 1: maybe they're great. It's just not my bag. It's not, uh,
- 30:44Speaker 1: It's not for me, but I didn't want to whitewash,
- 30:47Speaker 1: because I think there are still great radio people out there.
- 30:50Speaker 4: Yeah, there are.
- 30:51Speaker 9: But there's also junk.
- 30:53Speaker 1: There's a lot of other crap. And it's the same
- 30:54Speaker 1: with podcasting. There's a lot of junk in podcasting, too.
- 30:57Speaker 4: Again, that's what I'm saying.
- 30:57Speaker 6: Trying to distinguish what you're doing from the million other
- 31:01Speaker 6: kids in their basement.
- 31:02Speaker 4: And I'm one of the kids in the basement. What
- 31:03Speaker 4: do I care?
- 31:04Speaker 1: I've got a studio in Sherman Oaks, California.
- 31:07Speaker 6: Not all of us get a fabulous studio.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Yet.
- 31:10Speaker 4: Bring it in.
- 31:11Speaker 6: Yet.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Bring it in.
- 31:13Speaker 4: I'm looking for him.
- 31:13Speaker 1: But we can't do... To flip on that, we can't
- 31:17Speaker 1: do this.
- 31:18Speaker 9: Because we have a studio, we don't go.
- 31:20Speaker 1: We'll do some live shows around the country, but if
- 31:23Speaker 1: somebody says, well, can you come to our office and record?
- 31:25Speaker 9: That's not what we do.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Whereas Marin went to Dick Van Dyke's house. Whereas when
- 31:32Speaker 1: we talked to Dick Van Dyke, we're like, no, he's
- 31:34Speaker 1: got to come to our studio. Was I smart to
- 31:36Speaker 1: do that? Probably not.
- 31:37Speaker 9: No, you dumbass.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Go to Dick Van Dyke's house.
- 31:38Speaker 4: Dick doesn't want to go anywhere. Dick hangs around the house.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Jesus.
- 31:41Speaker 9: Buy one of these and go to Dick Van Dyke's house,
- 31:43Speaker 9: you dillwad.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Well, we're all still learning then.
- 31:47Speaker 1: Yes, right.
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- 33:16Speaker 9: I love to travel by train.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think this is, a class trip?
- 33:19Speaker 9: A tough ex-cop. Are you always this angry?
- 33:23Speaker 3: A sensitive criminal.
- 33:25Speaker 9: Oh, no, no, come on, come on. Cigarettes are killers.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Why are we running away from the FBI?
- 33:32Speaker 4: Because I got to bring it back myself, otherwise I
- 33:34Speaker 4: won't get my money.
- 33:35Speaker 1: They can't fly. They also suffer from acrophobia and claustrophobia.
- 33:38Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if you don't cooperate, you're going
- 33:40Speaker 1: to suffer from fistophobia.
- 33:42Speaker 2: They're seeing America the hard way.
- 33:44Speaker 3: Why would you eat that?
- 33:45Speaker 10: It was a taste good.
- 33:49Speaker 3: At gunpoint.
- 33:50Speaker 10: What did you.
- 33:51Speaker 4: Do before you did this?
- 33:52Speaker 1: What qualified you for this?
- 33:54Speaker 10: He's gaining. No, get it.
- 33:56Speaker 2: He's flying.
- 33:58Speaker 9: Robert De Niro.
- 33:59Speaker 1: It is truly in your best interest to just relax.
- 34:02Speaker 1: I'm totally relaxed.
- 34:04Speaker 9: Charles Grodin.
- 34:05Speaker 6: Two dollars, that's all you're going to leave?
- 34:08Speaker 8: That's 15%.
- 34:08Speaker 9: That's 13%.
- 34:09Speaker 1: These people depend on tips for a living. From the
- 34:11Speaker 1: director of Beverly Hills Cop, Midnight Run.
- 34:14Speaker 10: Hi, my name.
- 34:25Speaker 1: Is Jennifer Lawrence and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
- 34:34Speaker 11: It's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
- 34:42Speaker 11: enough movies.
- 34:43Speaker 3: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
- 34:46Speaker 2: And now, on with the show.
- 34:48Speaker 11: Music Well, okay, since we technically do talk about movies.
- 35:13Speaker 6: I guess we can veer into, you have turned up
- 35:16Speaker 6: in stuff over the years. It made me think, do
- 35:20Speaker 6: you set out to do that? Because you went into comedy.
- 35:23Speaker 6: That's obviously what you were drawn to first, but was
- 35:26Speaker 6: there a plan to And I might do some acting too?
- 35:29Speaker 4: Or was it just like they presented these opportunities?
- 35:33Speaker 1: Well, I actually went to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts.
- 35:36Speaker 9: I studied acting. I thought, you know, it was in
- 35:40Speaker 9: the 80s.
- 35:40Speaker 1: And, you know, it was like, even when I, my
- 35:43Speaker 1: son just, he was eight years old, but my wife,
- 35:46Speaker 1: my wife mentioned Goonies in passing once. And my son just,
- 35:52Speaker 1: it was the sweetest thing in the world. He said, Dad,
- 35:55Speaker 1: I know what I want to get mom for Christmas.
- 35:56Speaker 1: I want to get her Goonies. And we considered it
- 35:58Speaker 1: because mom loves it.
- 35:59Speaker 9: She mentioned it once.
- 36:01Speaker 1: But it was so sweet, so we went and bought it,
- 36:03Speaker 1: and we had a family movie night with Goonies. But
- 36:05Speaker 1: the reason I bring it up is Goonies is exactly
- 36:08Speaker 1: that 80s movie that I would watch and go, I
- 36:11Speaker 1: want to be part of that. I want to be
- 36:13Speaker 1: in movies. And Goonies and Lost Boys and stuff like that.
- 36:19Speaker 1: You know, obviously Breakfast Club and St. Elmo's Fire and
- 36:21Speaker 1: all that nonsense. I didn't know that I wasn't pretty
- 36:25Speaker 1: enough to.
- 36:25Speaker 9: Be in movies, but.
- 36:26Speaker 4: They let Judd Nelson in.
- 36:27Speaker 1: But he was a handsome dude until he got drunk
- 36:30Speaker 1: and bloated. I don't know anything about his life.
- 36:31Speaker 9: I don't know anything about... It was for humor.
- 36:33Speaker 4: We're sorry, Judd. You can come on.
- 36:34Speaker 9: It's all right. So I studied acting.
- 36:38Speaker 1: And even while I was there, my teachers would say,
- 36:42Speaker 1: you know, you should go into comedy. You're a fine actor,
- 36:47Speaker 1: but you should really be doing stand-up comedy or Second City.
- 36:50Speaker 9: And so when I moved.
- 36:53Speaker 1: When I went back to Chicago after the first year
- 36:55Speaker 1: at the, at the Academy.
- 36:56Speaker 9: Which sounds so prestigious when I.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Put it that way, uh, the goal was just to
- 37:00Speaker 1: go back and see my family and spend the summer
- 37:02Speaker 1: back in Chicago, then come back out to LA.
- 37:03Speaker 9: This is again in the eighties.
- 37:05Speaker 1: And, um, I went back to LA and turned 21
- 37:10Speaker 1: or I'm sorry. I went back to Chicago, turned 21,
- 37:12Speaker 1: did my first open mic and did about five or six.
- 37:16Speaker 9: And it was like, I don't know if I'm ready
- 37:19Speaker 9: for this. And I kind of.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Bailed on that. And so I got a great job
- 37:22Speaker 1: with a record company. And hanging out with rock stars
- 37:26Speaker 1: and doing all the bullshit that you do when you
- 37:28Speaker 1: work for a record company. And yet, that wasn't filling
- 37:31Speaker 1: the void. And so then, this is a long-winded way
- 37:33Speaker 1: to get to your answer.
- 37:34Speaker 4: It's fine. That's what we're here for.
- 37:37Speaker 1: I then, well, you're very kind that day. And then
- 37:41Speaker 1: when I was doing this, and my boss gave me the,
- 37:45Speaker 1: and I started doing open mics again to fill that
- 37:47Speaker 1: void that I needed to be doing comedy. And my
- 37:50Speaker 1: boss gave me the ultimatum of, you know, you got
- 37:52Speaker 1: to make a decision. Do you want to work for
- 37:54Speaker 1: MCA Records? You want to be a standup comedian? And
- 37:55Speaker 1: the next day I came in and said, I'm going
- 37:57Speaker 1: to be a comedian. And then when he, they had
- 37:59Speaker 1: all come to see me do a show like three
- 38:01Speaker 1: weeks before this. And when he announced at the morning
- 38:05Speaker 1: meeting that I was, that I gave my two week
- 38:07Speaker 1: notice that I was going to go into comedy, just
- 38:09Speaker 1: silence in the room because they, I sucked. I was horrible.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Take a sip for Christ's sake.
- 38:16Speaker 9: I'm so worried. I was horrible.
- 38:18Speaker 1: I was just, I was, I mean, I was, I
- 38:19Speaker 1: was new to comedy.
- 38:20Speaker 9: I sucked.
- 38:21Speaker 1: And they saw me suck. And they didn't just like,
- 38:23Speaker 1: even when you start, you have some good shows.
- 38:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 38:25Speaker 1: They didn't see one of those. They saw one of
- 38:27Speaker 1: the worst. And so when I decided I was going
- 38:29Speaker 1: to quit, like it was the most uncomfortable, you know,
- 38:31Speaker 1: people not making eye contact and people like, you know, go,
- 38:34Speaker 1: that's great, man. Good for you, man. Yeah. Love your dream.
- 38:37Speaker 1: I'm sure I walked out of the room. What the
- 38:39Speaker 1: fuck is he thinking? Like they had to think that.
- 38:41Speaker 1: So I went in, I started doing standup and then
- 38:46Speaker 1: moved to LA. And then again, to answer your question, uh,
- 38:50Speaker 1: I would audition a lot for commercials when I first
- 38:52Speaker 1: moved to LA. I auditioned a lot for situation comedy. Uh,
- 38:56Speaker 1: I'm not, uh, I'm not.
- 38:58Speaker 9: A good auditioner. I'm a horrible auditioner.
- 39:01Speaker 4: It's its own battle there.
- 39:02Speaker 1: It really is.
- 39:03Speaker 9: It's its own world.
- 39:04Speaker 1: And people, some people are great at it and some
- 39:07Speaker 1: people suck at it and, uh, some are bad at
- 39:09Speaker 1: it and then they just have a great one. And
- 39:11Speaker 1: like my friend Ty Burrell from modern family, uh, it
- 39:14Speaker 1: talked on my podcast about how auditioning is the worst
- 39:16Speaker 1: experience in the world. And the fact that they, You've
- 39:18Speaker 1: got to go in, and there's people sitting on a couch,
- 39:22Speaker 1: you know, like judges, staring at you with no warmth,
- 39:26Speaker 1: and you have to be the most relaxed and comfortable
- 39:29Speaker 1: you've ever been in a life and know the material.
- 39:31Speaker 1: And it's like they put everything against you, yet you
- 39:35Speaker 1: have to be more relaxed than you've ever been in
- 39:36Speaker 1: your life to get that role.
- 39:38Speaker 4: And it's no representation of your skill either.
- 39:40Speaker 1: It's really not.
- 39:41Speaker 6: Because you can be a great– you can do great
- 39:42Speaker 6: at auditions, but– You can be a terrible actor.
- 39:46Speaker 4: Or vice versa. You can be the greatest actor in
- 39:47Speaker 4: the world and just suck at auditions.
- 39:50Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm– I think I'm an
- 39:52Speaker 1: average actor, but I know I'm a horrible auditioner based
- 39:55Speaker 1: on the fact that I've gotten six roles in my life.
- 39:57Speaker 1: And they've always been like the perfect roles. Even when
- 40:01Speaker 1: I read it, it's like, oh, I'll get this one.
- 40:02Speaker 4: This is me.
- 40:03Speaker 1: And there's only been one or two where I read
- 40:05Speaker 1: it– I joke now that I look back at when
- 40:08Speaker 1: I was auditioning a lot for commercials and which I don't,
- 40:11Speaker 1: I stopped doing those cause they're just so degrading to
- 40:13Speaker 1: audition for. Um, and, uh, and I never, I never
- 40:17Speaker 1: had that big payoff that some commercial actors get where,
- 40:19Speaker 1: you know, they, they get that national spot and they
- 40:21Speaker 1: make a hundred thousand dollars. And it's like, well, you know,
- 40:24Speaker 1: for three hours of work, uh, I've never, I never
- 40:27Speaker 1: had that.
- 40:27Speaker 4: We don't have old footage of you in a Burger
- 40:29Speaker 4: King cap.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Nope.
- 40:30Speaker 4: They always drag out the old.
- 40:31Speaker 1: I did rallies. There you go.
- 40:34Speaker 4: Uh, no wonder you didn't get it.
- 40:35Speaker 8: Right.
- 40:36Speaker 1: It was like in four markets. Um, but, uh, I
- 40:40Speaker 1: look back at myself from those times, you know, I
- 40:42Speaker 1: was still drinking and I was, uh, not in shape.
- 40:45Speaker 1: And so I look back at pictures of me and, and,
- 40:48Speaker 1: or footage of me and I'm just, I looked drunk
- 40:51Speaker 1: and bloated in all these shots. Like, well, I wouldn't
- 40:53Speaker 1: have hired me. No matter how good my audition was,
- 40:55Speaker 1: I wouldn't have hired me. So I ended up getting some,
- 40:58Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about movie roles. I mean,
- 41:02Speaker 1: I was in Dreamgirls and I got cut out of Dreamgirls,
- 41:05Speaker 1: which was a bummer. You know, I thought that was
- 41:06Speaker 1: going to be a neat, not that it would have
- 41:07Speaker 1: been career changing in any way, just the idea of
- 41:09Speaker 1: being in Dreamgirls, like this great, you know, musical. And,
- 41:14Speaker 1: you know, I just imagine people watching Dreamgirls and going,
- 41:17Speaker 1: This is great. Is that Jimmy Carter?
- 41:18Speaker 6: Exactly.
- 41:19Speaker 1: Wait a minute. What the hell is Jimmy Carter with this?
- 41:21Speaker 4: I know that guy.
- 41:22Speaker 5: What was your role?
- 41:24Speaker 1: What's interesting is it was a role that in the
- 41:28Speaker 1: script throughout the movie, whenever the dreams or I forget,
- 41:33Speaker 1: it's Jimmy, whatever Eddie Murphy's character, Jimmy something in the dreams.
- 41:38Speaker 1: It was all done by voiceover. And so the director,
- 41:42Speaker 1: I can't pull it. I think the same guy did Chicago, right?
- 41:44Speaker 1: He said, Is it Bill Conlin? Does that sound right
- 41:46Speaker 1: to anybody?
- 41:46Speaker 5: That sounds right.
- 41:47Speaker 1: But did he do Dreamgirls? Is it that guy?
- 41:50Speaker 4: This involves Google.
- 41:52Speaker 7: Right?
- 41:52Speaker 1: And I can't be one of those actors. You know,
- 41:54Speaker 1: when Bill had me on the set, I can't even
- 41:55Speaker 1: be that a-hole. But he had the idea of, because
- 41:59Speaker 1: this particular one, this particular voiceover was when the dreams
- 42:04Speaker 1: left Eddie Murphy's character to go out on their own.
- 42:07Speaker 1: His idea was, well, that one should be special. We
- 42:09Speaker 1: should have a, instead of using a V.O., uh, for
- 42:13Speaker 1: that transition. Let's have a human being do it. And, um,
- 42:18Speaker 1: so he hired, I didn't even audition. He saw tape
- 42:20Speaker 1: of me somewhere and he goes to, and he's, and
- 42:23Speaker 1: my agent got the call.
- 42:24Speaker 9: Saying, Hey, they want you to be in dream girls.
- 42:26Speaker 9: And like what?
- 42:27Speaker 1: And they go, yeah. So, uh, I had to block
- 42:30Speaker 1: off two weekends cause they didn't know when I was
- 42:31Speaker 1: going to work it. And, uh, and in fact, one,
- 42:34Speaker 1: I had to cancel Lexington because I, uh, and of
- 42:37Speaker 1: course that was.
- 42:37Speaker 9: The weekend they didn't need me.
- 42:39Speaker 1: So I'm sitting at home going, I could be at
- 42:40Speaker 1: Lexington to make money. Uh, So I was, uh, I
- 42:45Speaker 1: got to the set and they were doing this huge, uh,
- 42:49Speaker 1: when I arrived, they were on the, uh, that's not true.
- 42:52Speaker 1: Annika Rose, I believe is her name was Annika Rose.
- 42:55Speaker 1: The third, it was a Jennifer Hudson, Beyonce and the
- 42:58Speaker 1: third one. She was getting her makeup done. And then
- 43:01Speaker 1: they went and I was, I got there like, you know,
- 43:03Speaker 1: typical Hollywood story. I got there like at four.
- 43:06Speaker 9: In the morning. And I literally have one line.
- 43:09Speaker 1: I have, you know, ladies and gentlemen, the crystal ballroom
- 43:11Speaker 1: is proud to present for the first time ever, the dreams.
- 43:14Speaker 1: That was my line. And I was like, well, Jesus Christ,
- 43:16Speaker 1: I'll be done by 445, you know? And so, and
- 43:18Speaker 1: that was the plan. Like if you looked at the
- 43:20Speaker 1: shoot schedule, it was that. Well, the lighting people that
- 43:22Speaker 1: day lit for the dance number. And it's a dance thing,
- 43:26Speaker 1: which is maybe one of the, it's like one of
- 43:29Speaker 1: the three biggest scenes in Dreamgirls that they shot from
- 43:32Speaker 1: five Till midnight. And I'm not... It was literally that long.
- 43:37Speaker 1: But when I got there, you're up first, but you
- 43:39Speaker 1: rushed me into makeup. So I'm in makeup for 18 hours.
- 43:42Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there to do one line.
- 43:44Speaker 9: I live.
- 43:45Speaker 1: three blocks away from where they're shooting. And I kind
- 43:47Speaker 1: of go, guys, I literally live three blocks from here.
- 43:49Speaker 4: Just call me.
- 43:50Speaker 9: Let me go home.
- 43:51Speaker 1: If you call me, and.
- 43:52Speaker 9: Then they're like, no, we can't take the risk.
- 43:53Speaker 1: Is it Bill? Did you look it up?
- 43:55Speaker 5: It is, in fact, Bill Condon. It is, in fact,
- 43:57Speaker 5: Annika Rose.
- 43:58Speaker 9: And what is it?
- 43:59Speaker 5: Annika Rose.
- 43:59Speaker 9: Annika Rose.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Nailed it. So they're like, no, no, we can't take
- 44:03Speaker 1: the risk. What if he just wants to sneak it
- 44:04Speaker 1: in at some point?
- 44:05Speaker 9: And I'm like, Jesus Christ.
- 44:07Speaker 1: So I'm waiting in my, I'm in my trailer all
- 44:08Speaker 1: day long and I'm in my, you know, in my, uh, uh,
- 44:11Speaker 1: you know, period attire and, uh, just sitting there and I,
- 44:15Speaker 1: you know, they even told me he's going to be
- 44:17Speaker 1: in and out in a few, most at most two,
- 44:19Speaker 1: three hours.
- 44:19Speaker 9: So I don't even, I didn't even bring like a
- 44:20Speaker 9: book with me.
- 44:21Speaker 1: I got nothing. You're sitting there like going to solitary
- 44:24Speaker 1: confinement and just going nuts. And, and so then, uh,
- 44:28Speaker 1: I would go and watch them shoot, uh, sometimes to
- 44:30Speaker 1: watch it, which was neat to see. And, um, and
- 44:33Speaker 1: then finally it was like at 1145, uh, They was like,
- 44:37Speaker 1: I think somebody finally.
- 44:38Speaker 9: Went, Bill, you've got to get this guy. You've got
- 44:40Speaker 9: to do something here.
- 44:41Speaker 1: And so they lit for me, and it was a
- 44:44Speaker 1: beautiful shot. I was lucky enough to see them play
- 44:48Speaker 1: it back, where it was just this one light hitting
- 44:51Speaker 1: me on the side and delivering that line.
- 44:54Speaker 9: I did two takes.
- 44:56Speaker 1: And that's a wrap for Jimmy Pardo and Beyonce and
- 44:59Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson and Etika. They're literally like four feet away from,
- 45:02Speaker 1: I go, I go, that's an 18 hour day right there, guys.
- 45:04Speaker 1: And the whole place was laughing that it literally took
- 45:08Speaker 1: four minutes and it looked beautiful. And then my agent
- 45:11Speaker 1: got the call saying that for consistency, Bill's going to
- 45:15Speaker 1: go with that VO, uh, throughout the whole thing. But
- 45:18Speaker 1: I still get residuals because I was credited or I
- 45:21Speaker 1: guess on IMDB, it says I was uncredited, but, um,
- 45:25Speaker 1: I was credited, and so I still get money for
- 45:27Speaker 1: this thing, and so it comes up often. But it
- 45:29Speaker 1: was a great experience, even though I just shit all
- 45:33Speaker 1: over it. But it was neat to say that I
- 45:36Speaker 1: was in Dream, even though I wasn't in it. Then
- 45:38Speaker 1: I thought I was hoping it was going to show
- 45:39Speaker 1: up on the DVD, like in all the extras, and
- 45:42Speaker 1: then with some commentary like, this guy was fantastic, we
- 45:45Speaker 1: just couldn't, like I was hoping for that, and then nothing.
- 45:48Speaker 6: We couldn't stand this performance. We took it out immediately.
- 45:52Speaker 6: At least then it would be on there, though.
- 45:54Speaker 1: This dick sat around for 18 hours and then phoned
- 45:57Speaker 1: it in with these two takes.
- 45:58Speaker 4: We knew we were going to cut the line. We
- 46:00Speaker 4: just wanted to see how long he'd sit there.
- 46:02Speaker 1: It was almost like a torture experiment.
- 46:04Speaker 6: They had a camera running on you the whole day going, look,
- 46:06Speaker 6: he's still just staring at the wall. Oh, he got
- 46:09Speaker 6: a cup of coffee.
- 46:09Speaker 4: Look at him.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Some live stream going out to people. Asshole waiting for
- 46:13Speaker 1: his part.
- 46:13Speaker 4: That's how they funded Dream Girl.
- 46:15Speaker 6: Right.
- 46:16Speaker 1: Your reward.
- 46:16Speaker 6: You pledge, you get to watch this guy as we
- 46:18Speaker 6: torture him all day long. Well, and that's one of
- 46:21Speaker 6: those you never kind of know. Like, you can't tell, oh,
- 46:24Speaker 6: my scene's not important.
- 46:25Speaker 4: It'll probably be. So, I mean, you assume.
- 46:27Speaker 1: Well, when I got the script, I thought, where's my role? So,
- 46:30Speaker 1: in a way, I was like, well, how important is that? Yet,
- 46:32Speaker 1: when I got there and they explained why they wanted
- 46:34Speaker 1: me there, it's like, oh, that is important. Because it
- 46:36Speaker 1: is really, it's the turning point of these girls being
- 46:38Speaker 1: backup singers to being stars. I was like, holy shit,
- 46:41Speaker 1: even though it's one line, what a.
- 46:43Speaker 6: This is the introduction of the whole rest of the movie.
- 46:48Speaker 1: But I get why it was cut.
- 46:49Speaker 9: I wasn't angry.
- 46:50Speaker 1: I was disappointed, but I wasn't angry by any means.
- 46:52Speaker 1: But to speak to what you said earlier, I was
- 46:55Speaker 1: just given the role. I didn't audition for it. And
- 46:59Speaker 1: then the other movie, oh, damn it, that I did with,
- 47:06Speaker 1: but I was given that role as well. Whenever I'm
- 47:10Speaker 1: given something I do okay, it's that auditioning that, clunks
- 47:12Speaker 1: it all up.
- 47:13Speaker 4: I don't know they need a new system yeah well
- 47:18Speaker 4: then again it's like do you do you want to
- 47:22Speaker 4: do more of that specifically or is it just one
- 47:24Speaker 4: of those like enough that you'll be pursuing it or
- 47:27Speaker 4: is it just something no if.
- 47:28Speaker 1: I get offered like I just got offered Peter Pardini
- 47:30Speaker 1: who was kind enough to include me in the documentary
- 47:33Speaker 1: on the band Chicago yeah is a filmmaker.
- 47:36Speaker 4: I hear you're a little bit of a fan I
- 47:38Speaker 4: like the.
- 47:38Speaker 1: Band and thrilled that they're getting in the Hall of
- 47:41Speaker 1: Fame uh but Peter was kind enough to include me
- 47:44Speaker 1: in like, he's got some celebrities and I throw that
- 47:46Speaker 1: in quotes because of me, but he's got Joe Mantegna
- 47:47Speaker 1: and the guy that owns the Dodgers and he's got
- 47:49Speaker 1: some other.
- 47:49Speaker 9: Folks and then me.
- 47:51Speaker 1: And then he is doing this faux documentary and he
- 47:56Speaker 1: asked me if I would be in it. And, uh,
- 48:00Speaker 1: so of course I said, yeah, you know, it was
- 48:02Speaker 1: very flattering. I play a detective and it's, uh, you know, it's,
- 48:05Speaker 1: it's done documentary style. So it's, you know, it's, it's not,
- 48:07Speaker 1: it's not heavy acting, but, but he was smart enough
- 48:11Speaker 1: to know that I think Jimmy Purtle would be.
- 48:12Speaker 9: Funny in this role. And, and I saw some footage.
- 48:15Speaker 1: It's good. It's decent. So, but again, I was given it,
- 48:17Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, and again, people and, and I, and,
- 48:21Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate that Peter was kind enough to
- 48:22Speaker 1: include me in the Chicago thing.
- 48:24Speaker 9: And then also in this.
- 48:25Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 48:26Speaker 1: Well, that's, yeah.
- 48:26Speaker 4: I mean, anything that you can put yourself in the
- 48:29Speaker 4: middle of that.
- 48:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 48:30Speaker 1: But as you know, but, the movie world's a whole
- 48:34Speaker 1: different world. You know, like sitcoms and stuff like that.
- 48:36Speaker 1: You know, I auditioned a lot for those and, uh,
- 48:40Speaker 1: and I would land a role here or there, you know, uh,
- 48:42Speaker 1: not a lot, you know, one every couple of years.
- 48:45Speaker 9: Uh, and then I just stopped auditioning altogether.
- 48:47Speaker 1: And, uh, the last thing I did was again, somebody,
- 48:50Speaker 1: a show called true Jackson VP, uh, where that girl's.
- 48:53Speaker 9: Now she's gonna be in Greece, uh, Greece live. What
- 48:55Speaker 9: the heck is her name? Uh, African-American beautiful. Uh, Oh
- 48:59Speaker 9: damn it.
- 49:00Speaker 1: It was her show. Uh, But I was just given that, too.
- 49:03Speaker 1: The guy was a fan of mine and said, I
- 49:05Speaker 1: think you'd be funny. And they even worked out, it
- 49:08Speaker 1: was during an off week of Conan, where he was like, oh,
- 49:13Speaker 1: you're off that week. And then they worked their schedule
- 49:15Speaker 1: to do that episode the.
- 49:16Speaker 9: Week I was off.
- 49:17Speaker 1: And like it's not even that big of a role
- 49:18Speaker 1: but it's like jesus christ thank you.
- 49:19Speaker 6: That's cool yeah well then you again you're you're doing
- 49:24Speaker 6: tv that type of stuff is that more enjoyable because
- 49:28Speaker 6: again the the movie story is grueling but like TV
- 49:31Speaker 6: is its own weird little system too.
- 49:33Speaker 4: Is that an easier system to work in?
- 49:35Speaker 1: I don't think it is. And again, it's because I'm,
- 49:38Speaker 1: other people love it. They love the idea of getting
- 49:40Speaker 1: there at six in the morning and just, that's their day.
- 49:43Speaker 1: I can't stand it. It just drives me crazy. So
- 49:48Speaker 1: I kind of just get there going, well, I hope
- 49:50Speaker 1: this ends soon. I don't enjoy the, now to contradict that,
- 49:55Speaker 1: I love hosting. And so I've hosted game shows and
- 49:58Speaker 1: stuff all through the years. And that, I could be
- 50:00Speaker 1: there every day from 6 to 6 and love every second.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Because you're moving and you're doing something. There's also, when
- 50:07Speaker 1: you do a guest role on a sitcom, that's a family.
- 50:12Speaker 1: And you're coming into the family.
- 50:13Speaker 9: They all know each other. They're all there.
- 50:15Speaker 1: You're the outsider. And I've had great experiences. Nobody ever
- 50:18Speaker 1: treats me. That 70 show, they were great to me. Becker,
- 50:21Speaker 1: they were great to me. I mean, Ted Danson treated
- 50:23Speaker 1: me like I was there every week. But you're still
- 50:26Speaker 1: not there every week. And as the guest, you have
- 50:30Speaker 1: your table read, and then you have rehearsals and rehearsals,
- 50:33Speaker 1: and then you rehearse it during the day, then you
- 50:34Speaker 1: rehearse it a second time, then you show it to
- 50:36Speaker 1: producers every day. And after that, they could either cut
- 50:40Speaker 1: your role because it's not necessary, or they could replace
- 50:42Speaker 1: you because they don't think you're doing it. So it's
- 50:44Speaker 1: like you're never fucking comfortable.
- 50:46Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 50:47Speaker 1: You always, when you're a guest star, at least for me,
- 50:48Speaker 1: and I know other actors that feel this way, you
- 50:51Speaker 1: always feel like, oh, I could be replaced at any
- 50:53Speaker 1: given moment. I better do okay. And so it's like, again,
- 50:56Speaker 1: it's like, I can't be great because I'm scared I'm
- 50:59Speaker 1: going to get fired.
- 51:00Speaker 9: I don't want to be embarrassingly fired. Yeah.
- 51:03Speaker 4: That's what I think of if that's your whole career.
- 51:05Speaker 6: When I'm just dealing with actors and hearing their stories,
- 51:08Speaker 6: I'm like, your whole life is like that when that's here.
- 51:10Speaker 4: It's all like that.
- 51:11Speaker 6: At least you have regular gigs and you're booking more stuff.
- 51:14Speaker 4: But those guys, that's every day for them.
- 51:17Speaker 1: That's crazy. My dad never really– my dad's a guy
- 51:22Speaker 1: from Chicago who at one point had three jobs to
- 51:24Speaker 1: support us and going to school and whatever he did
- 51:27Speaker 1: to make our lives better. And my mom was more
- 51:30Speaker 1: supportive of me when I first started doing comedy. My
- 51:31Speaker 1: dad was a little hesitant because he's my dad and protective.
- 51:34Speaker 4: That's kind of his job.
- 51:35Speaker 1: It's his job.
- 51:35Speaker 4: Tell you to go get a real job.
- 51:37Speaker 9: So he came out to L.A.
- 51:38Speaker 1: And and he stayed with me and he saw what
- 51:41Speaker 1: I was going with the auditioning and this. And he's like, oh,
- 51:46Speaker 1: my God, you guys work every day. You go to
- 51:48Speaker 1: a job interview every day and you're told no every day.
- 51:52Speaker 1: You're told yes.
- 51:53Speaker 9: Once in a blue moon.
- 51:55Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 51:55Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, I had no idea. This is
- 51:57Speaker 1: how it's a yes. It sucks. It's a terrible job.
- 52:00Speaker 1: It's awful what I've chosen to do.
- 52:04Speaker 9: But I don't... I love hosting television.
- 52:07Speaker 1: I don't... If I was given a series regular role,
- 52:12Speaker 1: or even if I auditioned, if somebody called me up
- 52:14Speaker 1: and said, this is the perfect Jimmy Carter role, please audition.
- 52:18Speaker 1: I would probably fight it tooth and nail and probably
- 52:20Speaker 1: go and hope to God I'd do okay. And if
- 52:22Speaker 1: I got the role and I was a series regular,
- 52:24Speaker 1: I think I could relax into it and have fun
- 52:26Speaker 1: doing it. I just don't... I have fun hosting and, and, um, uh,
- 52:30Speaker 1: you know, I've had the pleasure of, I, I, I
- 52:33Speaker 1: auditioned for Mad Men, uh, basically once a season. I
- 52:36Speaker 1: did not audition in the last season, but I auditioned
- 52:38Speaker 1: once a season. Um, uh, because my friend John Hamm
- 52:41Speaker 1: is of course the star and Matthew Weiner, uh, uh,
- 52:45Speaker 1: my name is Matthew Weiner. That's how stupid I am. Uh,
- 52:48Speaker 1: it's apparently a fan of mine and he had a
- 52:50Speaker 1: role of a comedian, uh, maybe season two. And he
- 52:55Speaker 1: called me in for Jimmy. The character's name was Jimmy.
- 52:57Speaker 1: With the potato chips. He was doing a sponsorship for
- 52:59Speaker 1: potato chips. But it was this huge role. And so
- 53:01Speaker 1: John calls me up and he goes, Matthew Wiener's about
- 53:04Speaker 1: to call you. You're going to come in and audition.
- 53:07Speaker 9: I'm like, okay. And I get my audition.
- 53:13Speaker 1: It's like nine pages. It's like, first of all, I'm
- 53:16Speaker 1: not good.
- 53:17Speaker 5: I'm not good.
- 53:18Speaker 4: I want to, I want to be able to remember stuff.
- 53:19Speaker 1: Wait a minute. I can't, you know, there's, so I
- 53:22Speaker 1: walk over to the audition. It is, it's the guy
- 53:24Speaker 1: who got the role. It's Jonathan Silverman. It's all these
- 53:27Speaker 1: people you recognize and this Dilwad. And, you know, admittedly
- 53:31Speaker 1: I got a little intimidated, but I gave a decent
- 53:33Speaker 1: audition for that. That then Matthew kept calling me back
- 53:36Speaker 1: year after year for these different roles. And he kept
- 53:39Speaker 1: on bringing me in for these giant roles, like these,
- 53:42Speaker 1: Because he loved me so much. And he's like, and
- 53:45Speaker 1: I finally, I go, just let me be the Xerox
- 53:47Speaker 1: guy who comes in and says, here's your new machine.
- 53:50Speaker 1: I go, I want to be on Mad Men. You
- 53:52Speaker 1: want me on Mad Men. Give me one line.
- 53:53Speaker 9: He goes, I don't want to disrespect you like that.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Give me, disrespect me.
- 53:55Speaker 5: I don't care.
- 53:56Speaker 1: Give me one line to be on Mad Men.
- 53:58Speaker 9: But he would always give me these huge roles that
- 54:00Speaker 9: he'd want me to be.
- 54:01Speaker 1: And I'm flattered that he thought it. But you'd think
- 54:04Speaker 1: by the fourth time of me not getting it, it's like,
- 54:06Speaker 1: just give him the Xerox guy.
- 54:08Speaker 4: You're suddenly Rob Schneider in the middle of this episode.
- 54:10Speaker 1: I'll be more than happy to do it.
- 54:11Speaker 4: Making copies.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Making copies.
- 54:14Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's my acting career.
- 54:19Speaker 6: Well, I also like to cross over and get people's
- 54:22Speaker 6: take as a viewer, too. So I know on the
- 54:24Speaker 6: show you talk a lot about documentaries. Are you specific
- 54:27Speaker 6: to documentaries, or what do you prefer that you watch
- 54:31Speaker 6: as far as just movies?
- 54:32Speaker 1: It depends what mood I'm in. If I'm just at
- 54:34Speaker 1: home and my wife and son have gone to bed,
- 54:37Speaker 1: There's something about just putting a documentary on and quote-unquote
- 54:40Speaker 1: learning something. Oh, that's trouble. Is that a bad spot?
- 54:45Speaker 9: But I guess, you know, I don't.
- 54:47Speaker 1: Know if I'm... You know, we just watched, with my son,
- 54:51Speaker 1: we just watched Ring the Boom, or whatever the hell
- 54:52Speaker 1: that's called, that Kevin James movie.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 54:55Speaker 9: And is it good?
- 54:56Speaker 7: No.
- 54:56Speaker 9: Did I think it was great? Yes, I enjoyed it.
- 54:58Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
- 54:58Speaker 1: It's like I sat there and laughed like an idiot.
- 55:01Speaker 4: That's everything with Kevin James, though, because I think he's
- 55:03Speaker 4: really talented. He is, right, but But they always give
- 55:05Speaker 4: him the dumbest roles and the dumbest projects. And I'm like,
- 55:08Speaker 4: he's so much better than this.
- 55:10Speaker 1: And I stand behind Paul Blart, too. I thought it
- 55:12Speaker 1: was really funny.
- 55:12Speaker 4: I haven't even seen that one yet because it looks
- 55:14Speaker 4: so bad. They always look bad.
- 55:15Speaker 1: They look horrible. Now, in fairness, I'm there with my
- 55:18Speaker 1: son who's laughing like crazy. And so maybe I'm caught
- 55:21Speaker 1: up in that a little bit. So maybe Paul Blart
- 55:23Speaker 1: 2 stinks. Although I brought it up on my show
- 55:25Speaker 1: and everybody that saw it as well, Jimmy, you're right.
- 55:27Speaker 9: It's really funny.
- 55:28Speaker 4: I guess I'm going to have to get to it.
- 55:31Speaker 9: It's good.
- 55:32Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I think Kevin James is a good, comedic,
- 55:34Speaker 1: physical actor who just is kind of dismissed.
- 55:38Speaker 4: But I can't knock him because those are huge paychecks.
- 55:42Speaker 4: I'm like, would I be making Mall Cop 3? Hell yeah.
- 55:44Speaker 1: Yeah, damn right I would.
- 55:46Speaker 6: But like going in, watching it as a viewer, having
- 55:49Speaker 6: some sort of artistic integrity, not that I have, but.
- 55:52Speaker 6: I'm just like, I wouldn't want to make this. I
- 55:54Speaker 6: wouldn't want to be in it, but would I cash
- 55:55Speaker 6: that check?
- 55:56Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I would.
- 55:56Speaker 3: Sure.
- 55:56Speaker 4: So I won't knock him for it.
- 55:57Speaker 1: Paul Barthew's good, though. Don't whitewash that. If you want
- 56:00Speaker 1: to go grown-ups, too, yeah, you can crap all over that.
- 56:03Speaker 4: They're all cashing a paycheck there.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Or Pixels. Oh, good lord, was that horrible. But I like,
- 56:09Speaker 1: you know, depending on what it is. I literally am
- 56:12Speaker 1: excited about The Finest Hours, the new Disney movie, because
- 56:16Speaker 1: I somehow... I go crazy for any movie that has
- 56:19Speaker 1: a wave in it.
- 56:20Speaker 6: Well, and it was real. I just saw one of the...
- 56:23Speaker 6: There's one surviving member of the original crew.
- 56:26Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
- 56:26Speaker 9: They die?
- 56:27Speaker 1: Don't tell me the story.
- 56:28Speaker 4: It was a long time ago.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 56:31Speaker 4: Literally, they all.
- 56:32Speaker 1: Just like the Titanic. They're all 80.
- 56:35Speaker 4: That's why it was one surviving member.
- 56:36Speaker 1: All right, very good. Thank you.
- 56:37Speaker 4: Other than that, it's a happy ending. It's fine.
- 56:39Speaker 6: But actually i don't really know what happened to the
- 56:41Speaker 6: rest but again i'm assuming it's just because.
- 56:42Speaker 1: They're all really old thank you for saving that but
- 56:45Speaker 1: i wasn't.
- 56:46Speaker 6: I try not to spoil things until i tell people
- 56:48Speaker 6: but um yeah he that's what i was like i
- 56:51Speaker 6: thought maybe it was just something they came up with
- 56:53Speaker 6: but the fact that it is based on like one
- 56:55Speaker 6: of the most successful and daring rescues that ever happened
- 57:00Speaker 6: i'm like oh well again sometimes the real factor makes
- 57:02Speaker 6: it more interesting yeah i.
- 57:04Speaker 1: Or even like The Revenant, where it says based on
- 57:07Speaker 1: a true story, it's like, well, there's no way that
- 57:08Speaker 1: guy dropped 100 feet onto his back and got up
- 57:11Speaker 1: and ran.
- 57:12Speaker 4: There's a lot of license in that one, probably.
- 57:14Speaker 1: But it's still like, all I can say is based
- 57:16Speaker 1: on a true story, it's like, well, some of this
- 57:18Speaker 1: came from somewhere, so I'm more invested. You know, I
- 57:22Speaker 1: like anything, I guess, to answer your question.
- 57:24Speaker 9: You know, I don't know. You know, just a guy.
- 57:28Speaker 1: Watching movies.
- 57:28Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 57:31Speaker 1: By the way, I'm talking so much, I'm starting to
- 57:32Speaker 1: think that the only reason Lucy's coughing is so we
- 57:34Speaker 1: know she's still alive.
- 57:36Speaker 4: Do you have anything specific, Lucy?
- 57:38Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. I feel terribly that I'm doing that.
- 57:40Speaker 1: Who cares?
- 57:41Speaker 9: I don't care.
- 57:42Speaker 1: It's his show.
- 57:43Speaker 6: Usually I'm lucky to get some second to join me,
- 57:46Speaker 6: so I'm just used to yammering on the whole time. Again,
- 57:49Speaker 6: I always tell her.
- 57:50Speaker 1: Just jump in whenever. I don't care. I know I'm yammering,
- 57:52Speaker 1: and I don't shut up.
- 57:54Speaker 4: Again, it's the only way I keep moving at this point.
- 57:56Speaker 9: Like a shark.
- 57:57Speaker 4: Shark podcasting.
- 57:58Speaker 2: Sure.
- 57:59Speaker 4: So we'll Well, take a second. Did you have something
- 58:01Speaker 4: you wanted to ask? Oh, my gosh.
- 58:03Speaker 5: Hot seat.
- 58:04Speaker 8: Wow.
- 58:04Speaker 7: I just came here to talk about Bart Braverman.
- 58:09Speaker 9: Success.
- 58:12Speaker 4: Well, then, if not, then we'll go back to the
- 58:15Speaker 4: other side, then.
- 58:16Speaker 6: I like to throw it out there for listeners who
- 58:19Speaker 6: like cool stuff that maybe.
- 58:20Speaker 4: They haven't seen. Are there documentaries or something that you've.
- 58:22Speaker 6: Seen that you think maybe have flown under the radar
- 58:26Speaker 6: that people should check out?
- 58:27Speaker 9: Oh, I don't know the answer to that. You know,
- 58:29Speaker 9: we just watched Bat Kid. I thought that was great.
- 58:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:32Speaker 1: Because we watched it on the heels of Making a Murderer,
- 58:36Speaker 1: which is depressing and horrible. And then to watch Bat Kid,
- 58:39Speaker 1: here's this documentary that, on paper, it's a kid with leukemia,
- 58:43Speaker 1: but it's all positive energy. And so that was great
- 58:46Speaker 1: to watch.
- 58:47Speaker 4: That seems hard to do. I remember even hearing about
- 58:50Speaker 4: it going... How depressing is this going to be? So
- 58:52Speaker 4: it's good to hear that they put a good spin
- 58:54Speaker 4: on it.
- 58:55Speaker 9: It's all uplifting. And the parents, they seem like great people.
- 58:58Speaker 1: And all the people that rally behind this thing. And
- 59:01Speaker 1: then just to see how big the you know, the
- 59:03Speaker 1: bat kid thing grew from this little make a wish
- 59:06Speaker 1: thing where he's going to go to a park basically and, and, and,
- 59:09Speaker 1: you know, beat up a bad guy to this huge event. It's,
- 59:13Speaker 1: it's really, uh, uh, great. I always think of the staircase,
- 59:16Speaker 1: but that's not a movie. It's more of a, you know, that, uh,
- 59:19Speaker 1: the series, the series kind of thing about the author
- 59:21Speaker 1: that may or may not have thrown his wife down
- 59:23Speaker 1: a flight of stairs. Probably did. And, uh, allegedly, uh, what,
- 59:28Speaker 1: what other documentary? I don't, you know, I, This is
- 59:30Speaker 1: one of those things with, again, being in the hot seat,
- 59:32Speaker 1: where if I'm on a plane making a conversation, I
- 59:35Speaker 1: can come up with 4,000, but now that I'm here
- 59:37Speaker 1: with you, I can't, I can't think of the one
- 59:39Speaker 1: I watched two days ago, and that's about it.
- 59:40Speaker 4: I was trying to think of the ones I'd seen.
- 59:42Speaker 4: Just to throw one to you.
- 59:43Speaker 1: What do you got?
- 59:44Speaker 4: If you haven't seen Almost There.
- 59:45Speaker 9: I don't even know what that is.
- 59:46Speaker 4: That's why I wanted.
- 59:47Speaker 6: To throw, and if people listening may know, because we
- 59:50Speaker 6: had one of the co-directors on, and like, but it
- 59:52Speaker 6: was one of those, like, I saw it at the
- 59:54Speaker 6: film fest, and I sat there like, Oh Lord, this
- 59:56Speaker 6: is like amazing. Like it's a, an aging artist that
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: these two guys just happened to run into it like
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: a street fair and they're outside of Chicago. They start
- 1:00:06Speaker 6: talking to him and they had cameras with them. And
- 1:00:08Speaker 6: so they get that first meeting on film and then
- 1:00:11Speaker 6: it becomes this like, Oh, you should come to my
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: house and see my art because he's out there drawing
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: stuff for people and doing caricature kind of stuff.
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: And it goes over a.
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: Couple of years and a couple of years and eventually
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: they get to his house and it is just, Seriously,
- 1:00:25Speaker 6: there's holes in the ceiling. He lives in the basement
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: because the top floors are falling apart. And they go
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: in and it is just hoarder town. It is just
- 1:00:35Speaker 6: wall-to-wall crap. And just walls of VHS tapes. Wait, I
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: started to see a lot of similarities with this crazy
- 1:00:42Speaker 6: old man. Because I was just like, he's just off
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: by himself. He's got all kinds of crap. And he's
- 1:00:47Speaker 6: still painting away. And he is kind of an amazing
- 1:00:50Speaker 6: outsider artist. But he's also like, insane potentially and there's
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: this weird past that comes up midway into the movie
- 1:00:59Speaker 6: you're like oh okay they like and they had no
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: idea so it's It's fascinating.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: Almost there.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: Almost there.
- 1:01:06Speaker 9: I'll remember it.
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: If you guys Google it, I can send you the
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: link to it because I think they were getting distribution
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: the end of last year, so it's definitely worth watching.
- 1:01:17Speaker 9: Speaking of art, did you see the one?
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: I'm sorry. God, you just were going to say something. I,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: of course, jump in like an asshole. No, no, no.
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: You were the guest.
- 1:01:23Speaker 9: The one about we just watched.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: The guy that does the reproductions of artwork. What the
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: heck is that name of that? We just watched that,
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: my wife and I, and it was great. I remember.
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: Is it a couple years ago?
- 1:01:37Speaker 8: No.
- 1:01:37Speaker 9: Well, I don't know. We just watched it.
- 1:01:39Speaker 6: Because, yeah, I remember one that was like, if it's
- 1:01:42Speaker 6: that good a reproduction, what difference does it make?
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: Was kind of one of the questions that comes up.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: He's the one, like, he brings them to museums. Yeah.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: It's fascinating. And it's like, and he's broken no law
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: because they're, It's art.
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: If it's an individual piece of art, you can't tell
- 1:01:57Speaker 6: them not to do it. It's different if you're mass
- 1:01:59Speaker 6: producing and making money. But if you paint a piece
- 1:02:01Speaker 6: of art... there's no licensing, there's no, you know, it's
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: your art.
- 1:02:05Speaker 9: And he's not making money from it.
- 1:02:06Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: It was fascinating though because he too is, you know,
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: he's nuts.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: Most artists.
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: It's like a companion piece to F is for Fake.
- 1:02:13Speaker 10: What?
- 1:02:14Speaker 5: It's like a companion piece for F is for Fake.
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
- 1:02:16Speaker 7: Oh, it's an Orson Welles documentary about art that's amazing
- 1:02:19Speaker 7: and incredible and finally had a release.
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: Maybe 10 years ago. I liked it.
- 1:02:23Speaker 6: I'm glad I've seen it because I love Orson Welles,
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: but like, It's it's so again, it's Orson Welles towards
- 1:02:29Speaker 6: the very end. So I feel like he's extra crazy
- 1:02:31Speaker 6: at that point, too, because it's like it's following some
- 1:02:34Speaker 6: really interesting train of thought.
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: And he'll take this turn and go over here for
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: a while.
- 1:02:38Speaker 6: You're like, wait, why are we watching this guy? And
- 1:02:40Speaker 6: then it'll come back and like, what was that 20 minutes? Like,
- 1:02:44Speaker 6: it's very strange how he veers off and talks about it.
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: But it's still worth watching.
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: It's Orson Welles.
- 1:02:49Speaker 7: So has Almost There given a career boost to the artist?
- 1:02:52Speaker 7: I feel like there was that period where there was
- 1:02:53Speaker 7: that amazing movement where like all the documentaries were about
- 1:02:56Speaker 7: undiscovered talent. And then as soon as the documentary came out, like, oh,
- 1:02:59Speaker 7: now you're the biggest band in the world.
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: Now you're going back on tour. Now you're like a
- 1:03:02Speaker 5: sought after artist.
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: Not as I heard it at the time. This was
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: a few months ago.
- 1:03:07Speaker 6: And it is one of those, it's interesting how the
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: story turns out. Because you get halfway in and you're like, oh,
- 1:03:13Speaker 6: I don't know what's going to happen here.
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: This could go really, really bad.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Oh, all right.
- 1:03:16Speaker 6: And so it takes a different kind of turn than
- 1:03:19Speaker 6: even you think is coming from the beginning. And the
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: middle point, it ends a little differently. So it's worth
- 1:03:23Speaker 6: watching for that, too. Because you kind of don't know
- 1:03:26Speaker 6: where that movie's going.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Great.
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: Definite bump for that.
- 1:03:29Speaker 9: I will watch it.
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: It's worth watching.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Is it available on Netflix?
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: I don't know yet. Again, I'll check the website. Send
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: him the link.
- 1:03:39Speaker 6: I'm sure he's gunning for the streaming platforms at this point.
- 1:03:42Speaker 6: That is kind of where it's all going now.
- 1:03:44Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the future of that now, yeah.
- 1:03:46Speaker 6: Yeah, that's also, again, that's the media just changing massively,
- 1:03:50Speaker 6: and people are just, they're making use of the convenience
- 1:03:54Speaker 6: of it, but I don't think they see the huge
- 1:03:56Speaker 6: change that's coming, and the fact that network TVs don't
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: really even have a good window anymore, and Again, looking
- 1:04:04Speaker 6: at things like sitcoms, like the window for making sitcoms
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: on network television compared.
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: To like the 90s. I know, right? It's ridiculous. It's
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: like now it's just all streaming.
- 1:04:14Speaker 6: Go to Amazon and make your show. Go to Netflix
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: and make your show. So the whole industry is kind
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: of changing.
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: It sure is. Do you think we'll survive?
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: I hope so.
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: I hope so. Well, is there anything you want to
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: tell people? Stuff you've got in the works?
- 1:04:31Speaker 8: No.
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: You're not doing any comedy. You're not on a podcast.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Are we done?
- 1:04:36Speaker 9: Are we wrapping it up?
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: What else do you want to throw out there?
- 1:04:39Speaker 9: We can talk about whatever you want to talk about.
- 1:04:41Speaker 6: I threw out some movie topics, so anything else you
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: can think of.
- 1:04:48Speaker 9: Nope.
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: Those were mine, Lucy.
- 1:04:52Speaker 5: So, Bart Braverman, what's he like?
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Shut up. You mentioned Bart Braverman again. You know, I.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: Just my podcast. I'm just running my mouth twice a
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: week doing that. And then I get out and do...
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Lucy and I were talking before, and I get out
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: about once a month and do stand-up in a city,
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: and I entertain those fine people for an hour of
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: their sad lives.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: How is that process? Because I'm sure it's changed a
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: little since you started, if you're not driving there now.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: It's... I only have to go out once a month
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: as opposed to 48 weeks out of the year like
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: I used to do. And the podcast is, of course,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: now the room is... you know, half full of podcast fans,
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: which is great. Uh, so I have them there to
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: support my nonsense. And then yet I have the new
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: people that have never seen what I do.
- 1:05:39Speaker 9: So I can.
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: Repeat material, which is important considering that, uh, I haven't
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: written a joke in two and a half years, but, uh, uh,
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: you know, I'm so improv, you know, I try to
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: improvise as much as I can on stage, but there's
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: still the skeleton that hasn't changed at all.
- 1:05:52Speaker 9: Um, but it's great.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: You know, like I joke, comedians, we see a movie
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: and masturbate. That's all we do every day.
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: It's a special lifestyle.
- 1:06:02Speaker 11: It is.
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: You got the two M's and then you move on.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: Then you got to do a show at night.
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: Eat some sort of bad food and go to sleep.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: Try to find something that isn't horrible. Then, yeah, you
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: nap it off. In the old days, for me, I
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: had to get hammered and do whatever happened then.
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: We heard about those.
- 1:06:18Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a chance a child's out there somewhere.
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: The legal ramifications.
- 1:06:21Speaker 9: I don't know if there's a child out there.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's me, man.
- 1:06:28Speaker 9: Man, I don't know who that guy is.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: I don't know why I became a hippie at the
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: end of that sentence.
- 1:06:33Speaker 9: But, I mean, you know, if you want to.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Wrap it up, wrap it up.
- 1:06:35Speaker 9: If you don't, we could talk all day. I don't
- 1:06:36Speaker 9: give a shit. I got enough, you know.
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: I don't know. That was most of mine.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: Just talking movies and your experience in the industry.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: I guess that's it. You know, the sitcoms and, you know, again,
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: I love hosting and the limited movie stuff I've done. Yeah,
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not Yafit Koto with 4,000 movie credits
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: and fun Bob De Niro stories.
- 1:06:57Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not going to talk to us about Kim Davis? Yeah,
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: it went there.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: Who's Kim Davis?
- 1:07:02Speaker 7: The Rowan County clerk who refused to sign off on
- 1:07:05Speaker 7: gay marriages in Kentucky.
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: I'm really glad you don't know.
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: That about Kentucky.
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: Wait, wait, first of all, I do know that.
- 1:07:10Speaker 6: Because it's like the go-to Kentucky. Yeah, I assumed everyone
- 1:07:12Speaker 6: in the nation hates us for that.
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: Well, I don't hate you for it.
- 1:07:14Speaker 9: I think she's nuts, of course.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: But you said, I wouldn't recognize the name, but you said,
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't have any Funny Bob De
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: Niro stories. You go, nothing about Kim Davis? Was I
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: in a movie with Kim Davis? Who the hell's Kim Davis?
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: And I'm racking my brain.
- 1:07:28Speaker 6: I assumed it was the woman that's coming forward with
- 1:07:30Speaker 6: the son that he doesn't know about.
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: They're very welcome to be Kim Davis. She had a
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: hell of a past, from what I understand.
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: I'm here representing Kim Davis, and I'd like to serve
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: you with these papers.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: She doesn't seem hypocritical at all. She seems wonderful, and
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: we wish her a lot of luck in her shawl
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: at the State of the Union.
- 1:07:46Speaker 9: What asshole invited her to that?
- 1:07:48Speaker 6: Or do you know anything about modern futuristic technology that
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: we have that is being hidden from us as we
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: were also treated to in that episode?
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 1:07:57Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: The beaming Star Trek technology is out there and they
- 1:08:00Speaker 6: just won't give it to us.
- 1:08:01Speaker 12: We're not ready for it yet.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: You know, I just read an article. It's so funny
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: because I've been saying this on my podcast. Not that
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: I'm this great. I'm stating the obvious. It's like with
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists. You can't win that argument because every rethink, well,
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: that's what they want you to think. Like, you can't win.
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: And it's funny that just some university just did a whole,
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: I don't want to say experiment, but a whole.
- 1:08:26Speaker 9: Series of tests.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Wrong. Still wrong.
- 1:08:27Speaker 9: Not happy with them. I'm exhausted. Can't think of the word.
- 1:08:30Speaker 9: Don't have the vocabulary.
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: What are those called? Experiments? What are they doing? When
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: they do a thing, not a thesis, but when they do,
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: when a university puts out they.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: Study? Study?
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: A study.
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, that's it.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: They did a whole study. That's it. You know, the
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: tough word of study about this. And basically, the conclusion
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: is you can't win because they just throw everything back
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: in your face.
- 1:08:52Speaker 4: No matter how good a point you make, then if
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: it's that good, you're just part of the conspiracy. You're
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: just part of it. You're part of it.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: You can't win.
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: You're part of the conspiracy. The reason you're giving.
- 1:09:00Speaker 6: me this is because they planted you here right at
- 1:09:02Speaker 6: this moment to tell me that.
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: Oh, and this one was specifically the other thing that
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I've been saying, and again, I'm not the only guy
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: saying this, but people that believe that 9-11 was an
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: inside job, that a million people would have to be
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: involved in order to make that an inside job, and one.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Nobody's come out. It only takes one guy to walk
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: and go, I can't live with this anymore. And that
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: was what the study was basically about. Everything that was
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory Within three to three and a half years,
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: somebody broke and said, I can't keep this quiet anymore.
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: So after a while, it's like, oh, that's the moon landing.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: It's obviously real because that guy didn't come out in
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: three and a half years.
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: Did he not?
- 1:09:37Speaker 5: Or did Kubrick make a movie about it?
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: No.
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: No.
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: Did you see that.
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: Thing going around the internet that was like the guy
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: who did an interview with Kubrick the last couple of
- 1:09:48Speaker 6: months of his life? And he made a deal with
- 1:09:50Speaker 6: him that he couldn't let this interview surface for 10
- 1:09:53Speaker 6: years after his death or something. And it just got
- 1:09:56Speaker 6: put out there. And I'm like, it's on the internet.
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: So I'm like, well, this is a scam. So I
- 1:10:02Speaker 6: didn't go do any more extra investigation on that. But yeah,
- 1:10:06Speaker 6: supposedly they just put out this interview with Kubrick claiming
- 1:10:10Speaker 6: that he faked the moon landing. And he was the
- 1:10:12Speaker 6: one that filmed it and all of this.
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: And like he.
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: Felt weird about it, but he couldn't say anything because
- 1:10:17Speaker 6: of the government. But he knew he was dying, and
- 1:10:19Speaker 6: then he set up this interview and was like, okay, here,
- 1:10:21Speaker 6: legally I want to put in writing that you can't
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: put this out there until after I'm gone and give
- 1:10:25Speaker 6: it 10 years.
- 1:10:26Speaker 4: But I'm like, really? It took us this long? And
- 1:10:29Speaker 4: even then, I'm sure it's fake.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: It's got to be because there's a gaffer or something
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: that was there that, like, you'd think he'd get drunk
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: at a bar one.
- 1:10:36Speaker 9: Day and just turn around.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: I was with Kubrick and we did the one thing.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: And then the guy goes, what are you fucking talking about?
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: And then that guy tells somebody and then it's blown
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: wide open. So the fact that that has, like, not
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: everybody can keep their mouth shut. You couldn't live your
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: whole life going.
- 1:10:48Speaker 9: I know something that the whole world doesn't.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Especially in this day and age of everybody becoming famous,
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: you'd think that those people would come forward and go,
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: you're right, it is. And here's why. And they would
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: prove it just so they can get that 10 minutes
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: of fame.
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: Or is that what they want?
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: See if that's what they want.
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: Well, that's my thing.
- 1:11:07Speaker 6: I'm like the inside job thing. I'm like, yes, there's
- 1:11:09Speaker 6: a lot of weird things that don't add up. But
- 1:11:11Speaker 6: do I give our government enough credit to orchestrate something
- 1:11:15Speaker 6: like that? They can't even get taxes right. I mean,
- 1:11:18Speaker 6: they can't get anything else right. Why would they be
- 1:11:21Speaker 6: able to orchestrate this massive thing?
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: As Dennis Miller said, states can't pay fucking roads.
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: And yet we're going to do this.
- 1:11:29Speaker 9: Back when he was funny. Still funny. Back when he
- 1:11:32Speaker 9: was good and relevant.
- 1:11:35Speaker 4: He lives a different life.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Not crazy.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:11:37Speaker 4: Off-white album.
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: That's the way to go.
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: He's so good. He's so good on that.
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: It's brilliant. It's so good.
- 1:11:42Speaker 4: And now I see him, I'm like, oh, it's just
- 1:11:45Speaker 4: boring now.
- 1:11:46Speaker 9: I know, right?
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: And so opinionated that I don't care.
- 1:11:49Speaker 6: It was kind of biting in the early days, and
- 1:11:51Speaker 6: now it's just like, It's so centered in what he
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: thinks that, like, whatever.
- 1:11:56Speaker 4: I see it all coming, you know?
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: His last special was a combination of that and then
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: when he would go away from politics and he would
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: just be funny, it's like.
- 1:12:05Speaker 5: Oh, it's still there.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: It's still there. It's still there. This is great. Great jokes,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: great references, great wording, great writing, but then right back into.
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: Again, the safety area that, like, you know it's coming.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:12:18Speaker 4: It's the easy material again.
- 1:12:20Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a boomer.
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: Yeah, you're talking to your crowd.
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: And he is.
- 1:12:25Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know they're going to love whatever you say.
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: It's the easy jokes. I don't know.
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: Heavy room.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: Got into politics.
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: Don't go down that road. I can't go down that road.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to go down that road.
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: That doesn't seem to be an important thing, really.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point.
- 1:12:42Speaker 4: Intelligence does not have anything to do with politics.
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: But I still don't, I couldn't speak on it well enough.
- 1:12:47Speaker 9: I always joke about my, you know.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: Oh, they're all wearing red ties. Good debate.
- 1:12:51Speaker 9: You know, that's just, I was laughing about this.
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: See, actually, I appreciate that. That's the kind of commentary.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: I would want to take away. My pleasure.
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: Then I would watch more politics if it was like,
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: look at that suit.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: That's a nice suit. I was just laughing about this
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: on the phone with Matt Belknap from the hit podcast,
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Never Not Funny.
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: I've heard of that one.
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: About how I watch, and I'm equating this to fantasy
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: baseball because I joked at the last fantasy baseball draft. I, there's,
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: I can't believe I, for as bad as I love
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: this and I've never been worse than anything in my life.
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: I love fantasy baseball and I suck at it. And
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: it's the same with politics.
- 1:13:24Speaker 9: I watch every debate.
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: I watch every state of the union. I watch every
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: state of the union.
- 1:13:28Speaker 9: I don't understand it.
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: I don't get it. I'm dumb. But I watch it
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: and I go, yeah. And I feel riled up as
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: an American. And then the next day, what was the
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: debate about? I think they talked something about immigration.
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: It was like two hours.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Donald Trump is stupid.
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: That's what I walk away with. Who would vote for
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: that animal? That's what I walk away with.
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: I knew that going in, though. I'm like, that guy,
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: I don't even like him on TV. Why do I
- 1:13:49Speaker 4: want him running anything?
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: He's Ross Perot, but he had a.
- 1:13:55Speaker 9: Although Ross wasn't a bigoted.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: Maybe he.
- 1:13:57Speaker 9: Was, but we didn't know that.
- 1:13:59Speaker 6: From the entry point, that's what I said when I
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: was like, it's just a rich guy buying his way
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: into the election.
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: That's it.
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: That's exactly what Ross Perot did.
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: But with the TV reality... He's.
- 1:14:07Speaker 6: Got 20 years of a TV platform pushing him that
- 1:14:10Speaker 6: Ross didn't have.
- 1:14:10Speaker 7: It's so much more interesting than that because Ross Perot
- 1:14:12Speaker 7: actually did believe in things.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right about that.
- 1:14:15Speaker 7: And Donald Trump only believes in winning. And so it's
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: sort of fascinating to watch this happen that it's just
- 1:14:20Speaker 7: like the height.
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: Of a narcissist. Like he's running.
- 1:14:23Speaker 7: for president because he's a narcissist and he will do
- 1:14:25Speaker 7: whatever it takes to win because winning's what he does
- 1:14:27Speaker 7: and he wants to prove to the world that he's
- 1:14:29Speaker 7: a winner.
- 1:14:29Speaker 4: It's like Perrault had good ideas.
- 1:14:32Speaker 6: He also had a lot of crazy eddies. Like he
- 1:14:34Speaker 6: was a little bit of a crazy man. But again,
- 1:14:36Speaker 6: I respected what he was trying to do. He went
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: in with at least some sort of earnestness about what
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: he was trying to do, where you don't get that
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: from Trump.
- 1:14:44Speaker 7: I mean, the only good news about Trump is in
- 1:14:46Speaker 7: the nightmare scenario, in the apocalyptic scenario that plays out
- 1:14:49Speaker 7: when Donald Trump becomes president, at least he doesn't actually believe.
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: In any of that shit.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: True. Assumably.
- 1:14:56Speaker 6: He doesn't even have anything to stand on, because he
- 1:14:58Speaker 6: doesn't really stand for anything except making money and winning
- 1:15:00Speaker 6: and making fun of other people.
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: And you can see, even in these debates, why he
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: is a great businessman, because he's a bully that takes
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: no bullshit.
- 1:15:07Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: That's how you get ahead.
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: And that's how you get ahead. That's how you get ahead.
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: But not in this. Like, everything that works in business
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: makes them.
- 1:15:14Speaker 9: Although there's these fucking... It kind of works.
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: These inbreds that are supporting this guy.
- 1:15:18Speaker 9: It kind of works.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: If you're a woman, how do you support this guy?
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: If you're a black woman, how do you support... I mean,
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: it's unbelievable if you're Hispanic. And yet they're there. They're
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: there at the... I don't get it. Let me ask
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: you this. And again, this is the most political I'll
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: ever get.
- 1:15:33Speaker 4: More than I've ever gotten.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: Are real Republicans rallying behind Donald Trump? Or are they.
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: It's almost like, it's just this, I don't want to
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: say the tea party, but it's almost the opposite.
- 1:15:42Speaker 9: It's basically a Klan.
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: Rally that are just, they're all raising, like for the
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: first time, these moron hillbillies are going to vote. And
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: I don't mean hillbillies in the way, I mean, these
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: are dumb people.
- 1:15:51Speaker 5: You're in Kentucky, watch out.
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: I make fun of them.
- 1:15:52Speaker 4: There's more than anybody, so it's okay.
- 1:15:54Speaker 5: Sensitive about that term.
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: I grew up on the south side of Chicago. I'm
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: a hill person too, so.
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: Scary Illinois hillbillies.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: I think it's that, right? It's these people that.
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: I don't know, but statistically, I mean, it's... We'll find
- 1:16:06Speaker 5: out this week, I guess. People who identify as Republicans, yeah.
- 1:16:09Speaker 5: We'll find out.
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: I don't claim either party. They both don't know what
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: the hell they're doing. I don't know that anybody knows
- 1:16:13Speaker 4: what the hell they're doing at this point.
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: So parties, I don't care about parties. Individual people, I
- 1:16:18Speaker 4: could get behind. It's rare that I see anybody to
- 1:16:20Speaker 4: bother with, so... Yeah, that's why I don't get political
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: on this show, because I just don't care. Like, there's
- 1:16:25Speaker 4: no good answer.
- 1:16:26Speaker 9: There's not.
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: Lucy brought it there.
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I'm like, I don't... Yeah, but Cotto
- 1:16:30Speaker 5: technically brought it there.
- 1:16:31Speaker 9: That's true.
- 1:16:32Speaker 6: He got political, and I don't know why. Once again,
- 1:16:34Speaker 6: we're wrapping up, and you're like, wait, what is.
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: He talking about? Did he have good Minaret Run stories?
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: A little?
- 1:16:41Speaker 6: I brought it up, and he had good things to
- 1:16:44Speaker 6: say about everybody, and liked the director.
- 1:16:46Speaker 5: Yeah, he's fascinating. Oh, yeah. You should revisit that episode.
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: I'll listen to the episode. How about that?
- 1:16:51Speaker 9: Instead of you guys telling me it.
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: Now, how about I do what you want me to
- 1:16:53Speaker 5: do and go listen to it?
- 1:16:54Speaker 10: Sure.
- 1:16:56Speaker 6: Uh well i will do that he's an amazing man
- 1:16:59Speaker 6: all right and you never know what you're gonna get
- 1:17:01Speaker 6: with him.
- 1:17:04Speaker 4: Much like timmy part oh no all right all right.
- 1:17:08Speaker 6: Well if i think we've covered many interesting topics today
- 1:17:11Speaker 6: and most of which i just kind of wanted to
- 1:17:13Speaker 6: get your take on on all of it showbiz in general.
- 1:17:17Speaker 4: And the showbiz thing that is.
- 1:17:19Speaker 6: Now podcasting which i guess it is it's an uphill
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: battle i i yeah i It's a fight every day.
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: When does this come out?
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt you.
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: Probably next week.
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: I have a podcast-a-thon coming up.
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: That's true. All right.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: Podcast-a-thon for people that are new to the Jimmy Potter
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: world is my 12-hour marathon of Never Not Funny where
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: we raise money for Smile Train, which is the great
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: organization that goes to third world countries and performs the
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: surgery to fix cleft lips and cleft palates on people
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: that couldn't otherwise afford it. I had the opportunity to
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: go down to Mexico this past December and watch his
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: surgery in action and meet the families and Uh, it
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: is not, uh, it's cliche, but it's not to say
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: it was life-changing to see how, uh, it only costs
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: $ 250 to do this surgery and it only takes 45
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: minutes and you are literally changing somebody's life. And I've
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: been saying that for the past seven years of us
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: doing podcast-a-thon, uh, but to actually witness it and meet
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: these families and see how they live and see how
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: this does change.
- 1:18:14Speaker 9: Their life, uh, was life-changing. And it's, um, uh, March 5th.
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: It's part of Castathon, and it's going to stream at nevernotfunny.com.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: And I have a different guest on every 20 minutes
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: to a half hour. That's crazy. Somebody from movies and
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: past guests have been Jon Hamm and Conan O'Brien and
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: Amy Poehler and Bob Odenkirk and Zach Galifianakis and Sarah Silverman,
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: Colin Hay, Amy Mann, Lisa Loeb. Great guests, great comedians,
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. So somebody different every 20
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: minutes to 30 to raise money for Smile Train. And
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: last year we raised $ 150, 000. And we're hoping to raise
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: more than that. So thank you for letting me. get
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: this out as well, because any support on this is appreciated.
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: I'm all for that. Actually, that was one of those.
- 1:18:55Speaker 6: If we crossed into it, I have a personal connection
- 1:18:57Speaker 6: to that.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: Oh, do you really?
- 1:18:59Speaker 6: My cousin was born with a cleft palate, and it's
- 1:19:02Speaker 6: kind of horrifying to see that first time, especially having.
- 1:19:05Speaker 4: It be your family.
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: And I'm like.
- 1:19:08Speaker 6: Okay, at that point, I mean, it was years ago,
- 1:19:12Speaker 6: so it was before I'd ever heard of Smile Train anyway,
- 1:19:14Speaker 6: so I don't know how well-known that kind of stuff
- 1:19:16Speaker 6: was at the time.
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: So I think, I'm sure his mother was like, what
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: the hell do we do?
- 1:19:21Speaker 6: And it is amazing what they can do and how.
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: I mean, he's like 21 now. Like, he's a handsome
- 1:19:31Speaker 6: young man.
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:19:32Speaker 4: They did a huge job. There's just an amazing turnaround
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: in him.
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: It's crazy, right?
- 1:19:37Speaker 6: And he's grown up and a completely normal kid. And he's,
- 1:19:39Speaker 6: like I said, he's got a very adorable girlfriend now.
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: And you wouldn't get that if you came out the
- 1:19:45Speaker 6: original way.
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: They did an amazing job on him.
- 1:19:47Speaker 6: And it's worth supporting because it massively changed his life.
- 1:19:51Speaker 9: It really does.
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: I mean, and like to see what I saw down
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: in Mexico, like the before and after of these kids.
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: was you know they you know their face was basically
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: split open and now it looks like they fell down
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: on the playground yeah and it's.
- 1:20:02Speaker 6: And eventually they can get rid of that like you
- 1:20:04Speaker 6: don't even see that now like it's it takes a
- 1:20:07Speaker 6: continuation kind of thing over the years if you can
- 1:20:10Speaker 6: but I mean first of all you need that to
- 1:20:12Speaker 6: kind of save their life almost I mean infection has
- 1:20:15Speaker 6: to be horrible right dealing with that so but after
- 1:20:18Speaker 6: that they can even you know touch it up and
- 1:20:20Speaker 6: you don't even know and that's That's amazing to see
- 1:20:22Speaker 6: the before pictures and then see how they turn out
- 1:20:25Speaker 6: further down the line. So yeah, from a personal standpoint,
- 1:20:28Speaker 6: I've seen it in action over these last couple of decades.
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: And it's amazing how much it does change people's lives.
- 1:20:35Speaker 6: So support Smile Train and.
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: Podcast about it.
- 1:20:38Speaker 9: Thank you so much.
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: Definitely.
- 1:20:40Speaker 4: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time,
- 1:20:42Speaker 4: Same Geek Feed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:21:12Speaker 8: Break of day Searching for something to say A.
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: Flashing light to.
- 1:21:25Speaker 10: Cross the sky Giving up.
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: I close my eyes.
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: Bye. Bye.
- 1:22:14Speaker 10: 25 or 64 Should I try to do some more.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: 25 or.
- 1:24:34Speaker 9: Thanks for dropping in, baby.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:24:37Speaker 9: Yeah, you one tough pig to nail down. You've been
- 1:24:41Speaker 9: picking at me like some kind of maggot. What in
- 1:24:43Speaker 9: God's name? What's that? Are we being invaded?
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: Is that why Kodo's out?
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: Did Kodo know something? Coming to find you. He heard
- 1:24:48Speaker 4: you talking smack about it.
- 1:24:49Speaker 9: I wasn't.
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: You were. I don't know. Run the tape. Run the tape.
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