Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie Woolf spoke with Northern Territory Primary Health Network CEO Gill Yearsley
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolf and three sixty online at Mix one
- 0:03Speaker 1: O four nine dot com. We learned yesterday that the
- 0:06Speaker 1: Northern Territory Primary Health Network has announced that near Me National,
- 0:11Speaker 1: in partnership with Larakia Nation, are going to be the
- 0:15Speaker 1: lead provider on the Darwin Adult Mental Health Center. Now
- 0:19Speaker 1: joining us on the line from the Northern Territory Primary
- 0:22Speaker 1: Health Network CEO Jill Year's leg Good morning to you, Jill.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Good morning, how are you today?
- 0:29Speaker 1: Very well?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Jill?
- 0:30Speaker 1: Firstly, what is near Me National?
- 0:33Speaker 2: Okay? Sorry? So me My are a they are a
- 0:38Speaker 2: mental health service provider that have been in operations since
- 0:42Speaker 2: about nineteen ninety eight. They're established originally in Melbourne at
- 0:48Speaker 2: the request of care as and family members for people
- 0:51Speaker 2: access to mental health services. But since that time they've
- 0:54Speaker 2: expanded across most of the states and territories of Australia.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Okay, And so they are going to be they're going
- 1:02Speaker 1: to be working in partnership with Larakia Nation and be
- 1:06Speaker 1: the lead provider at the Darwin Adult Mental Health Center.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Can you talk us through and sort of tell us
- 1:12Speaker 1: a little bit more about the center.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Yeah, So look, the center it's one of eight. So
- 1:18Speaker 2: the government made a commitment. The Commonwealth government made a
- 1:22Speaker 2: commitment in two thy nineteen that they were going to
- 1:26Speaker 2: roll out these mental health sites across Australia and there
- 1:30Speaker 2: are eight launch sites, each in a different state and territory.
- 1:34Speaker 2: So the Northern Territory has won and that's the Darwin
- 1:38Speaker 2: and the idea is that they are their new models,
- 1:40Speaker 2: their new models of one stop service access for adults
- 1:45Speaker 2: who are experiencing difficulty with mental health issues. It's really
- 1:49Speaker 2: building on the models the success that some of the
- 1:52Speaker 2: Headspace centers have had. So we've got access to younger
- 1:56Speaker 2: people and their families, but there was a real gap
- 1:58Speaker 2: it was felt for older adults.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it is such an important service for us to
- 2:05Speaker 1: be able to access and to be provided. How will
- 2:10Speaker 1: people will anybody be able to go there or what
- 2:12Speaker 1: will the process be in terms of being able to
- 2:15Speaker 1: go to that center?
- 2:17Speaker 2: Yeah, so the intended aain well actually the stated aim.
- 2:21Speaker 2: So the Department of Health Commonwealth has been very clear
- 2:23Speaker 2: about the expectations of these centers. So they are to
- 2:26Speaker 2: be operating seven days a week. They are to be
- 2:29Speaker 2: operating at an hour. So initially the one here in
- 2:32Speaker 2: jim we will operate between eleven am and eleven pm.
- 2:36Speaker 2: And yes, people can turn up to see someone and
- 2:39Speaker 2: talk to someone and from that initial contact a discussion
- 2:43Speaker 2: will be held about what's the best pathway to refer
- 2:45Speaker 2: that person onto.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Jill, where is this center going to be based exactly?
- 2:51Speaker 2: Well, we're not sure yet. So we're going to be
- 2:54Speaker 2: perhaps going to be part of the co designed process
- 2:56Speaker 2: and working with the community about where's the best site.
- 2:59Speaker 2: I mean, it needs to be in the community, so
- 3:02Speaker 2: it won't be based on the hospital site, but it
- 3:04Speaker 2: needs to be near enough the hospital should Indeed, we
- 3:07Speaker 2: need to be working with our partners in the anti
- 3:09Speaker 2: health department regarding transfers. But it also needs to be
- 3:13Speaker 2: accessible for people with public transports. Many of our population
- 3:18Speaker 2: do not have access to private transport and people need
- 3:21Speaker 2: to be able to access it as they go about
- 3:23Speaker 2: their daily business and not feel triumatized by doing so.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Jill, how soon are we anticipating that it's going to
- 3:31Speaker 1: be operational.
- 3:33Speaker 2: We are hoping and certainly we are working with the
- 3:37Speaker 2: providers that we will be operational by October to December
- 3:42Speaker 2: this calendar year. Now, I'm sure it won't be completely
- 3:46Speaker 2: up and running by them, but we are at least
- 3:48Speaker 2: hoping to have the initial semblance of a service commissioned
- 3:52Speaker 2: and active by that time.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Now, can you tell us a little bit more about
- 3:56Speaker 1: I suppose some of those services that you anticipate it
- 3:59Speaker 1: will be able to provide as well, you know, because
- 4:02Speaker 1: I know that there will be plenty of people out
- 4:03Speaker 1: there listening this morning who are wondering if it's going
- 4:07Speaker 1: to help them.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Look, the intention is it's about how do we work
- 4:13Speaker 2: with the existing service providers in our communities, and we
- 4:17Speaker 2: have lots of those already and increase and develop and
- 4:21Speaker 2: platform off what they already provide. One of the biggest
- 4:25Speaker 2: conversations we have with families and their carers and people
- 4:29Speaker 2: trying to access services is they don't know where to go.
- 4:32Speaker 2: So we actually have a whole suite of services already
- 4:35Speaker 2: available in the community, but not enough. Obviously, these services
- 4:41Speaker 2: will be able to do clinical triage, so they'll be
- 4:44Speaker 2: able to identify if a person has sorts of self harm,
- 4:49Speaker 2: if a person needs to see a GP, if a
- 4:51Speaker 2: person needs to see a psychologist, or if indeed a
- 4:54Speaker 2: person needs to support from another person who's experienced of
- 4:57Speaker 2: mental health issues. A lift experience workers as we call them,
- 5:02Speaker 2: in the sector, and also thinking of an Aboriginal autocia
- 5:05Speaker 2: armed a community and our cold community. How do we
- 5:09Speaker 2: link people with appropriately culturally appropriate people to help support
- 5:14Speaker 2: them through a journey of discussion around their experiences and
- 5:19Speaker 2: what they need. Oftentimes, I think people's experience and interactions
- 5:23Speaker 2: with mental health services is complicated by their inability to
- 5:28Speaker 2: fully explain and explore what's going on for them.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Jill, are we finding here in the Northern Territory that
- 5:34Speaker 1: we have an increase in the number of people who
- 5:37Speaker 1: require those mental health services?
- 5:40Speaker 2: Certainly the feedb we've had from our partners in the
- 5:43Speaker 2: community and we've had from our partners in the Northern
- 5:46Speaker 2: Territory government is that the access for services has increases
- 5:50Speaker 2: and the impacts of COVID. I mean, whilst in the
- 5:52Speaker 2: Northern Territory they've not been the same as other areas,
- 5:55Speaker 2: there are certainly impacts in terms of job opportunities and employment,
- 6:00Speaker 2: and I think for a lot of the population it's
- 6:03Speaker 2: particularly complex and look, I would say there has been
- 6:08Speaker 2: an increase in access. I also think that's that people's
- 6:12Speaker 2: willingness to begin to talk about needing support. So it's
- 6:16Speaker 2: about how do we then we if we're seeing that
- 6:18Speaker 2: increased requirement for access, you know, how do we respond
- 6:22Speaker 2: to that in a way that's respectful and appropriate.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, And I do think that, you know, I
- 6:28Speaker 1: hope that we are breaking down some of the stigma
- 6:30Speaker 1: which is attached to mental health issues. You know, I
- 6:33Speaker 1: think that realistically, we've got to look at this in
- 6:36Speaker 1: the same way that we look at any other health issue.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. You know, if we look at the the
- 6:43Speaker 2: if we look at the what we would call the
- 6:46Speaker 2: burden of disease. I don't like that term, but if
- 6:48Speaker 2: we look at the from the you know, the World's
- 6:50Speaker 2: Health organization and most first world countries, they're burden of disease,
- 6:56Speaker 2: mental health is one of the top at least five
- 6:59Speaker 2: or ten. And yet we don't We've still got this
- 7:02Speaker 2: narrative going on in our community that somehow we don't
- 7:05Speaker 2: talk about it in our community. In DA when we
- 7:08Speaker 2: have a very diverse community. We have people from the
- 7:11Speaker 2: Aboriginal and Toach owned community coal communities. We have x
- 7:15Speaker 2: ADF members and their families. We have people who might
- 7:18Speaker 2: be dislocated from a family because of work reasons, and
- 7:22Speaker 2: all of those people are vulnerable at risk. The other
- 7:25Speaker 2: thing we have as well in the Northern Territory is
- 7:27Speaker 2: that our population is actually a very young population, and
- 7:31Speaker 2: you know, that transition between youth and adulthood, which really
- 7:36Speaker 2: extends to in the mid thirties, if we think about
- 7:39Speaker 2: life transitions now is a really tricky, complex space for
- 7:43Speaker 2: people's experience, and I think that you know, people are
- 7:46Speaker 2: beginning to reach out and access services in a much
- 7:48Speaker 2: more appropriate way, Jill, if you.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Know, what can we do to help a friend or
- 7:53Speaker 1: a family member or ourselves. You know, anybody that's listening
- 7:56Speaker 1: this morning that may be thinking, look, this center sounds great,
- 8:00Speaker 1: but it's still a while off opening, and they're just
- 8:02Speaker 1: wondering what they can do, or maybe we've got a
- 8:05Speaker 1: family member who they would like to try and help.
- 8:08Speaker 1: What can we do in those initial stages.
- 8:12Speaker 2: The first instance obviously always go to your primary health provider,
- 8:15Speaker 2: to your GP. If people have access to a GP
- 8:17Speaker 2: and are willing to go and talk to their GP,
- 8:19Speaker 2: that would be the most sensible strategy. If people don't
- 8:23Speaker 2: want to do that, and there are people who don't,
- 8:25Speaker 2: you know, the Beyond Blue national website and the Lifeline
- 8:30Speaker 2: national website. There's also our local services. We also have
- 8:34Speaker 2: our headspace services here in Gawen. We also have some
- 8:39Speaker 2: other services which advertise regularly on TV. There's Team Health
- 8:43Speaker 2: who are funded by the Northern Territory government and we
- 8:46Speaker 2: are at the NTPH and we also have a mental
- 8:49Speaker 2: health website which is the www dot mental Health nt
- 8:54Speaker 2: dot com dot au and that lists all of our
- 8:57Speaker 2: services in the Northern Territory.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Well, Jill years Lee, the Northern Territory Primary Health Network CEO,
- 9:05Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks so very
- 9:07Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us.
- 9:09Speaker 2: No, thank you, and I'm glad to see you such
- 9:11Speaker 2: an active interest in this space. Thanks Katie, thank you.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, I think that this is a
- 9:17Speaker 1: great announcement. Once this facility is up and running, it's
- 9:20Speaker 1: going to be incredibly helpful, I reckon for a number
- 9:23Speaker 1: of Territorians who obviously are suffering from mental health issues.
- 9:27Speaker 1: And as I said then in that discussion with Jill,
- 9:30Speaker 1: I do think that if there is anything that we
- 9:32Speaker 1: can do to sort of really try to break down
- 9:35Speaker 1: those stigmas that can be sometimes associated with mental health issues,
- 9:39Speaker 1: it's so incredibly important that we do so