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Nate Bargatze Wants To Make Tickets Affordable Again(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: You have a new movie. Your movie's coming out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: No Trains. May 29th. May 29th, yes. Breadwinner. Breadwinner. In theaters.
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  Speaker 1: In theaters. And you have a Nate rate? What is this? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we talked to all the movie theaters and got prices lowered.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, because we want the whole family to
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  Speaker 1: come out. It's interesting with movies, man. You start looking at, like, theaters. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you guys make them in distribution and all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. Like, you know, think about touring. Like, it's
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  Speaker 1: hard not to think about movies and touring as kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the same kind of thing. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: get a promoter, you get this, you go to every town. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you make a movie and you go to these
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  Speaker 1: theaters and they're in every single town and you kind
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  Speaker 1: of go... Like, did you hear about that kid on YouTube?
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  Speaker 1: He did a horror movie. And he's got a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of subscribers on YouTube. And he's a big horror fan,
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  Speaker 1: I think. And they made a movie. He made a movie.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It was, you know, it was going to go out
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  Speaker 1: to a few theaters. Then his fans just started calling
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  Speaker 1: their theaters being like, no, we want it to come.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like a huge success. And he made
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  Speaker 1: it for, I want to say three million. And then, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see. Iron, is it? Yeah, it's like. Something iron. No.
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  Speaker 1: Iron something. It was iron something. And then Iron Lung, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Was that it? Yeah. Grossed over $ 50 million. I think
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  Speaker 1: he made it for three. Wow. But it was like,
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  Speaker 1: that's a guy that just basically did it like a tour,
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  Speaker 1: like how we would tour and sell tickets. Markiplier. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: That was in guys named Markiplier. And what does it say?
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  Speaker 3: Can you take me into what happened with the movie?
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  Speaker 1: He just made it. He said he wanted to make it.
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  Speaker 3: The Iron Long movie was independently self-financed and created by
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  Speaker 3: YouTuber Mark Fischbach. Markiplier, who wrote, directed, produced, edited, and
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  Speaker 3: started and operating without a major studio. He shot the
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  Speaker 3: film over 35 days using a life-size 9,000-pound submarine set
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  Speaker 3: mounted on a.
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  Speaker 1: Hydraulic motion rig. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: After struggling to find traditional Hollywood distribution, he self-distributed the film.
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  Speaker 3: Massive fan campaigns convinced major theater chains to screen it.
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  Speaker 3: The indie film became a massive box office hit, grossing
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  Speaker 3: $ 50 million on a $ 4 budget.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So he had his fans all call... Once he
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  Speaker 1: said he wanted to go out, he was in a
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  Speaker 1: few theaters and his fans kept calling their theaters and
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  Speaker 1: their towns. And they said they want to see it.
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  Speaker 1: And then he went out and did it. $ 4 million budget.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's incredible, dude. But that's where you see
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  Speaker 1: movies where you're like, that guy did it kind of
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  Speaker 1: like how you would tour on a comedy club. Like
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  Speaker 1: you're going and selling tickets just in these towns. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you got a big following like that,
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  Speaker 1: that tours and you go make a movie, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, can he go do that? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I understand that one time is kind of like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. So it would be magic. Can he go
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  Speaker 1: do it again or can he repeat it? Yeah, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even with our own movie, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what we sold compared to, like, if I were touring
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  Speaker 3: in a place as opposed to people that came out
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  Speaker 3: to go to the theaters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was close, but I do know
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  Speaker 3: that I had a lot of friends who were like, dude,
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been to the movie theater in eight years,
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  Speaker 3: 10 years, right? I had a lot of people who
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  Speaker 3: went to the movie theaters by themselves. We had one
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  Speaker 3: video of a dude, he went to the movie theater,
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  Speaker 3: nobody else was in the theater, right? he ends up watching,
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  Speaker 3: what was this dude's name? I got to find it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll put it in. He ends up just taking his
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  Speaker 3: shirt off and sitting there and watching the movie by himself, relaxing.
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  Speaker 3: He's the only guy in there. Watched the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: by himself. This dude, I think it's like, it was
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  Speaker 3: this guy, it's like this Latino guy. He's at work
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, bro, I'm freaking tired, but I want
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  Speaker 3: to go see this movie maybe. I don't know. And
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  Speaker 3: then you see him walk in. He's like, nobody's even here.
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  Speaker 3: And then like 10 minutes later, he's like, I guess
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  Speaker 3: I'll just enjoy myself. Yeah. I don't know what happened
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  Speaker 3: after that. I mean, he just, we know he had
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  Speaker 3: the shirt off and watched it. Oh, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 3: him right here, dude.
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  Speaker 1: This is the guy. Can you pull it up? Man,
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  Speaker 1: I just got off of work.
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  Speaker 3: I got this f * * * ing movie I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to go watch. F * * *, dude. I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like doing shit, to be honest. Look, I
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  Speaker 1: still made it in this f * * * er,
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  Speaker 1: but look, check it out. Ain't nobody in this bitch, bro.
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  Speaker 1: And he had to set the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Up somewhere and do this.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of a vibe.
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  Speaker 3: That's him right there.
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  Speaker 1: Golden cheeseburger right there. Golden underscore cheeseburger. Shout out to him.
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  Speaker 1: Being a horror worker, went to catch a movie. I
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  Speaker 1: never even thought about wanting to take your shirt off.
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  Speaker 1: I think people either don't or do want to take
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  Speaker 1: their shirt off. Yeah. I'm a not. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to take my shirt off. But, I mean, if someone
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  Speaker 1: wants to, buddy, they want to. Oh, we know a guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we do. We know a guy. Yeah, sometimes I
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  Speaker 3: wish we'd have tried to go in more theaters, but.
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  Speaker 1: Going to. But, yeah, taking your shirt off. Yeah. But
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  Speaker 1: going what? Going to theater alone, man, that, like, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty great. That's something you do a lot as a
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  Speaker 1: comic on the road. You can hit some, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you go to some movie at noon. Yeah. And you're
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  Speaker 1: just by yourself in there. Oh, yeah. Have you ever
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  Speaker 1: had someone come sit right next to you? I've been
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  Speaker 1: by myself or, like, maybe one other comic. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: then two more people walk in, they sit in the
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  Speaker 1: seats in front of us. Oh. Drives me nuts. And
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  Speaker 1: what do you do? I'll move. Yeah. Or I'll sit
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  Speaker 1: there and just be angry during the whole movie. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because why would you do that? Oh, dude, yeah. Why
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  Speaker 1: would you sit right, you know? Just go sit. It's empty.
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  Speaker 1: Just go sit somewhere else up. But here's the thing, though.
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  Speaker 3: If you sit too far away from that person, do
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  Speaker 3: you think they feel kind of left.
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  Speaker 1: Out or something? No, I would go as far away
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  Speaker 1: from them. I'm one that doesn't want to really be
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  Speaker 1: near someone.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, near someone in a dark theater that you
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you've got to have space. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would sit. Like when you go with a buddy,
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  Speaker 1: we don't sit next to each other. You have that
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  Speaker 1: empty seat. Thank you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When we went to Kevin James' movie, you and I
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  Speaker 3: sat next to each other and we kept a seat
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  Speaker 3: between us. Yes, we kept a seat between us. Like
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  Speaker 3: civilized people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We were normal. Yeah. And we
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed the movie more. Oh, yeah. It was good, dude. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like Beetlejuice. You ever see that guy, Beetlejuice? Mm-hmm. From Stern?
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  Speaker 1: We called him up. We offered him money to come
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast one time. And he said no? This
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  Speaker 1: is what he said. This is the craziest part.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, where are you going to leave the money at?
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  Speaker 3: And I couldn't, like, any. And just from there, it
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  Speaker 3: was like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was downhill. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was so hard. He's like, yeah, where are you
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  Speaker 3: going to put the money at? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh. And I couldn't explain to him, like,
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  Speaker 1: at the bank or whatever. Yeah. We're going to send
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  Speaker 1: you a check. Yeah. Unreal. Yeah, wire, anything.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I love that you're doing this, dude. I
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  Speaker 3: love that you were able to make that happen. How
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  Speaker 3: did you make that happen with the theater's? And then also, secondarily,
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  Speaker 3: do you know how many theaters you guys are opening
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  Speaker 3: up in?
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  Speaker 1: I think 3,000. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not positive. I think it's like that. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's 3,000. But it's, you know, it's, dude, it's like meeting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've met like, you know, AMC, that, Head
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  Speaker 1: of Regal, Cinemark, Cineplex. Like, you just kind of go
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  Speaker 1: to them and like, they're all, they're in the same business.
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  Speaker 1: I always say this. I'm in the ticket selling business.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the ticket selling business. We sell tickets. So
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  Speaker 1: you kind of take stuff out of the hands of Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: in a sense, once you're in this ticket selling business.
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  Speaker 1: That's my relationship with the audience is you buy a
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  Speaker 1: ticket and you come see me. And so when you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of do that, I think you can go
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  Speaker 1: to these theaters to go, we're all on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: They want people coming to theaters. I want them to
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  Speaker 1: come see the movie I made. And so then you're,
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  Speaker 1: I think you can just, there's ways around it. And
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  Speaker 1: now we're in such a new world where you're, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you start meeting people and like everybody just wants their
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  Speaker 1: businesses to grow. And I think everybody took it for
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  Speaker 1: granted for such a long time because it was, that's
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  Speaker 1: just what it was. What do you mean? Like growing
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  Speaker 1: up was, you know, growing up you just went to
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  Speaker 1: the movie theaters. You couldn't do, there was no streaming.
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  Speaker 1: There was a, you know, then once all the streaming
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  Speaker 1: stuff started happening. It's like, then they kind of went
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  Speaker 1: hard into that. And then I think left theaters. And
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  Speaker 1: now you're getting back to where these younger generations that
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  Speaker 1: are growing up with phones and they're seeing their parents
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  Speaker 1: on the phone all the time and they just want
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  Speaker 1: to go somewhere and they want to go do stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And so then it's like, there's a chance I think
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  Speaker 1: it will flip back to, you know, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you feel like, I think every time I drop
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  Speaker 1: my phone, I think I hope it breaks. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I always just, someone's like, oh, I'm like, it'd be
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  Speaker 1: wonderful if it broke.
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  Speaker 3: I hope someone steals it. I'll even go to a
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  Speaker 3: city that has a lot of crime and drop my
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  Speaker 3: phone there a couple, 10, 12 times.
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  Speaker 1: See what happens.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll even make that sound like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: And be let down. Yes. I thought this city had
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  Speaker 1: crime and I was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'll even do that when I drop it point at
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  Speaker 3: it yeah but yeah dude leave it way out of
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  Speaker 3: your pocket back pocket oh when my phone goes off
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  Speaker 3: dude sometimes I used to wet the bed and I
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  Speaker 3: would be like an adult which was the saddest part
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  Speaker 3: of it but after that there was times where I
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  Speaker 3: was like supposed to like get up in the morning
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  Speaker 3: or whatever and then I would urinate all over my
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  Speaker 3: phone it would short out and it would be like
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  Speaker 3: the best morning.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah especially after something so sad happening As an adult. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You get past that. But then your phone doesn't work
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, man, what a day. Yeah. I leave
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  Speaker 1: my phone like on the road. But I'll have like an,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have an Apple Watch. You have an
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  Speaker 1: Apple Watch? Like you have an Apple Watch, you can
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  Speaker 1: have Apple Watch with cellular. Yes. So you can leave
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  Speaker 1: your phone. And then like, you know, it's like one
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  Speaker 1: of those like, all right, if someone needed to call me,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you could throw AirPods in or you can
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, I got to call you back or
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  Speaker 1: text message or whatever. That's a big thing you do
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  Speaker 1: with kids at first. Sometimes you give them an Apple
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  Speaker 1: Watch before a phone. Because they can't do too much
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  Speaker 1: with an Apple Watch, but you could get a hold
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  Speaker 1: of them. My kid, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My kid would be lucky to get an Apple and
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  Speaker 3: watch what happens if you don't behave. That's how I'm starting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a start. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Is a good diet and then like light threat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then we'll go from there to see what else
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  Speaker 3: they get if they are well behaved. But Oliver Anthony
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  Speaker 3: just did something. Can you bring that up? What he
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  Speaker 3: was trying to do with ticketing? And congrats, man, on
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  Speaker 3: your movie. Yeah, ours just, we only got 500 theaters.
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  Speaker 3: I wish we'd have gone bigger and I wish we'd
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  Speaker 3: have gone to more rural theaters. I think we tried
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  Speaker 3: to do like too much just city stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway. But I mean like movies are,
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  Speaker 1: go back before too, like streaming is, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: think of streaming sometimes as like, it's like blockbuster in
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  Speaker 1: a sense. It's like where your stuff can go live
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  Speaker 1: and people can go watch that forever. I mean, Bert's movie,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like he went, to theaters, and then
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  Speaker 1: he went crazy and destroyed it on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think, and also, man, sorry to, I kind
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  Speaker 3: of made that about me there in our movie for
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  Speaker 3: a second.
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  Speaker 1: I want to apologize about that. No, I'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: your movie.
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  Speaker 3: No, congratulations. So it's going to be opening May 29th.
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  Speaker 3: That's this Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's in theaters. It's going to be in 3,000 theaters,
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  Speaker 1: which means almost everywhere. Yeah. That's a lot of places. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's wonderful, dude. It's exciting. Also, just, there's a chance
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  Speaker 1: it's four theaters. If for some reason it's not $ 3, 000.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's $ 3, 000, but it would be funny. Because
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  Speaker 1: the change is $ 4, 000, you mean? No, I think $ 4, 000
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  Speaker 1: is the max. I think we're at $ 3, 000. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: we go back and, you know, it's in 100 theaters.
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  Speaker 1: It could be that, too. Got it.
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  Speaker 3: What was Oliver saying? Yeah, I just saw this the
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  Speaker 3: other day. Can you just play a little bit of it?
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  Speaker 2: I could really use your suggestions and your advice. I
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  Speaker 2: am looking for venues to play. Um, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: started booking my own shows again. So in April we
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  Speaker 2: did those Virginias, um, where I just rented the room
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  Speaker 2: outright and I sold my own tickets through this West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia ticket company. And it was sweet. It was like
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  Speaker 2: a bypass the whole system. Um, and it actually worked
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  Speaker 2: and it went over pretty well. And so I just
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  Speaker 2: announced again for the June 1st through the third, I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing Charlotte, Greenville and Raleigh the exact same way, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going on Google and trying to find venues.
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  Speaker 2: And so I have no idea what's good and bad.
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  Speaker 2: But if you have places that you like going to
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  Speaker 2: see music that can hold.
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  Speaker 1: At least, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, got it. So he was trying, I guess, some ticketing.
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  Speaker 3: I guess ticketing maybe through the exact venues. I think
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  Speaker 3: because that's a big.
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  Speaker 1: Thing for people.
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  Speaker 3: And Oliver has always been like a pioneer of like
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out, you know, how do you get
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  Speaker 3: take away from, you know, some of these big groups
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  Speaker 3: like Ticketmaster and Live Nation. It's just that have these conglomerates,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot. I mean, those Ticketmaster fees are crazy.
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  Speaker 1: They're crazy. Here's the like, you know. They're crazy. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: they're insane. I agree. But here's the thing with like
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  Speaker 1: how much work that was for him to do four
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  Speaker 1: or five shows. Right. That's a lot of work. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like you got to get for him to if
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  Speaker 1: he wants to go if you want to go do
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  Speaker 1: it this way, you're going to need to build a system. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so you're going to have to have people. that
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  Speaker 1: are going to be able to help you to go
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  Speaker 1: do that. You can go do that, but you have
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  Speaker 1: to build a system. Or otherwise, you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to tour like the way you want to.
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  Speaker 1: If everybody wants to go see him, he's wonderful and
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: all this, and it's a lot of work. Remember, Louis
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  Speaker 1: might still do it. Louis did it for a while.
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  Speaker 1: He did it a long time where you buy tickets
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  Speaker 1: through his website and stuff like that. There's many ways
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  Speaker 1: that you can go try to do it. And look,
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  Speaker 1: a hard part of this too is that some people
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  Speaker 1: are like, I'll just, just let me go to Ticketmaster, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. You know, it's our StubHub or whatever they're
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: going to go do. And you're fighting that too. So
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  Speaker 1: it's not like we all want to. I always thought
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  Speaker 1: of it like this. You're right. I never thought about
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  Speaker 1: that part of it. Some people are okay with it.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're like, dude, what do you want? Like if
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  Speaker 1: I really look at it all, even though it's like
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  Speaker 1: I believe in the thing that you're doing, it's just
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  Speaker 1: so much work. And you got to get the word
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  Speaker 1: out and people have to find you and see you
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  Speaker 1: and all this. I don't know what he, where he
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  Speaker 1: wants to be career wise. Like, like, you know, does
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  Speaker 1: he want to be the most biggest star in the world?
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like he, I feel like he loves
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: where he's at. And like, I think he just loves
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: having that relationship with the people, with the audience, with
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the people, which is, which is amazing. Uh, and so
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, you should do that. But then there's a mix.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: You're the thing, you know, it's, you remember doing like
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: comedy clubs and you'd go try to do a rock.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Like for me, I would go try to do a
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: rock venue, uh, instead of a comedy club. And then
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: you go to the odd, the people that would come
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: out to me, they don't know where this rock venue
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: is at. So they've never heard of this rock venue.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: They just know where the comedy club is. Right. Now
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: you're doing it. Now you're a hundred people show up
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: under a bench somewhere. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, you just got word it's 3,300 theaters there.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. They charge all this stuff. Ticketmaster
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: does all this stuff. It's one of those. It's a mafia. Yeah,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: but the audience, yes, it's frustrating. We're all frustrated by it.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: But then it's also like people are busy. How many
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: people can you get that are going to go follow
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you everywhere? I agree.