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- 0:30Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Brett keen, and you
- 0:32are watching and listening to the Brett King show.
- 0:36Hold on a second. Let me fix this picture here.
- 0:39I don't know why it's like that for.
- 0:43Let's go ahead and move that over there like that.
- 0:47There we go. Cool.
- 0:50Alright, so recently, Matt, pal Christian did the interview with
- 0:57knock, who is the former Raging atheist.
- 1:02And I got to be honest with you, I've always liked these two.
- 1:07God could tell you that I've had some disagreements with both of
- 1:10them. Whatever it comes to madpal,
- 1:13though, a majority of what he's talked about and what he's
- 1:16preached. I've agreed with the Marne.
- 1:18There's no reason why we should get him to pass it.
- 1:21Specifics about the very few things that Matt pal has said,
- 1:25that I've have had issue with unfortunately, I made them.
- 1:29Mistake of thinking that because we were good friends and because
- 1:34I loved admired respected him that it was going to be okay to
- 1:39not agree with everything Matt said.
- 1:42I don't even know if me and Matt Powell according to him from his
- 1:45reference point, if we're even friends anymore, but I still
- 1:49watch his videos, I still love what.
- 1:51He's got, I've learned over the 20 years of being on YouTube
- 1:55that simply disagreeing with some Christian friends or
- 1:59atheist friends. Can cause you to be very lonely,
- 2:01very quick. Are the other that?
- 2:06So, luckily, I've grown thick skin and I've learned how to be
- 2:13able to deal with what they call fair weather friends.
- 2:17But I still love him, I still care about him and I still think
- 2:20that his message is good and I still think that he's he's doing
- 2:25a great job, not only as a preacher, but as a man of God.
- 2:30And also as a father and husband and all these different things.
- 2:34He's been through a lot of lot of work, and a lot of things
- 2:39throughout his life. And then there's former raging
- 2:43atheists who's no longer an atheist.
- 2:46Even when raging atheist was a raging atheist, I liked him, I
- 2:52dug him. One of the things I noticed
- 2:55about Ronnie. Other people might not be able
- 2:59to fool. We appreciate what I'm talking
- 3:02about whenever I say this, but there were many times where I
- 3:07would come to Ronnies live shows or his chat and I heard atheist.
- 3:15Tell him don't talk to Brett. King, Brett Kings, a piece of
- 3:18shit, right. Kings a liar, but Kings of fake
- 3:21Christian. Brett Keen only became a
- 3:24Christian because Christians pay him a lot of money, which is
- 3:28obviously untrue. Anyone that Ever checks out my
- 3:30patreon are, looks at the mini images.
- 3:33I put of my PayPal. The balance can see that I get
- 3:38paid, maybe five bucks every once in a while, and that could
- 3:41be a five six month period before I even see enough money
- 3:46to buy me a Snicker bars. Now, I don't do too bad, aren't
- 3:49selling T-shirts, and I also do advertisements and sponsor
- 3:54people on my radio. But as far as YouTube goes, I
- 3:57don't get dick and I don't even Who the people are that are
- 4:01sponsoring me on the radio. All's I know, is I go through
- 4:04international radio, I'm heard all over the world and I don't
- 4:09know if it's Christians or atheist, but I can tell you
- 4:12this, the lot of the people who support me are not Christian
- 4:16whatsoever. Like, for instance, well,
- 4:18Kincaid, he pays me money on patreon and he doesn't ask me
- 4:23for anything. He doesn't ask me for favors or
- 4:26anything like that. He and I have Been friendly with
- 4:31each other for years and he never liked offered something at
- 4:35that point or whatever. I'm just being honest with you.
- 4:38Ladies and gentlemen, it hasn't been a big budget thing.
- 4:41I'm not like sitting down in the basement, receiving paychecks
- 4:45from the pope. But the point is is that when
- 4:49Ronnie even though people dissed me and they talk trash to me,
- 4:54Ronnie always had this moral thing about him, he would say,
- 4:59well, I don't No, the guy in the guys never done nothing wrong to
- 5:03me. I'm going to give him a chance.
- 5:05I'm going to give him a shot. I'd like to be able to actually
- 5:08talk with them and if he is a liar if he is dishonest then
- 5:13that will simply be exposed. See Ronnie.
- 5:17It didn't matter to him who he was talking to Ronnies interest
- 5:21was having intellectual discussions.
- 5:23He wanted to have conversations with people and he didn't
- 5:26condemn or judge people based upon other people's Onion.
- 5:30He was one of those type of guys that was liver.
- 5:33Let Die kind of attitude. His personality was, I don't
- 5:37judge a book by it's cover, you know, I'll give anybody an
- 5:41opportunity any chance and to me, that was very adult-like.
- 5:46I've always thought whenever I see non-believers talking like
- 5:49that, like, don't talk to that crush and I don't talk to that
- 5:52religious person because their religious therefore they're
- 5:57stupid or they're dumb where they're not worth your time.
- 5:59I'm see being a Christian, I believe that everybody is worth
- 6:04my time. I believe that everybody
- 6:07deserves a chance, or an opportunity, I believe in
- 6:11redemption and forgiveness. I also do not believe that I've
- 6:15done anything that would warrant.
- 6:17People disrespecting me, or talk to me like that.
- 6:20Just simply because I believe in God and try to do things the god
- 6:25way. All right, this way it is but
- 6:29I'm also self-aware enough to realize it.
- 6:32Some atheists don't just dislike me because I believe in God,
- 6:37they dislike me because I didn't do things for them or I didn't
- 6:41commit to favors that they wanted.
- 6:45Like, for instance, I've had a lot of non-believers asked me to
- 6:48Mere their videos or share their stuff.
- 6:51And whenever I had a lot of subscribers, they thought they
- 6:54were going to benefit all for that.
- 6:56But due to their videos, being too controversial or even
- 7:01stepping over the edge of racism or oppression, I decided that
- 7:05that wasn't something that I felt would benefit my audience
- 7:09or myself to share their bullshit.
- 7:12If that makes sense. Well, now that we've gotten that
- 7:18personal stuff out of the way, I do want to say that I'm really
- 7:21proud of Ronnie, I will put this out there.
- 7:26I always knew that Ronnie was on a road to truth.
- 7:33I always knew that there was something there with him.
- 7:38A lot of these atheists out there that he admits that he was
- 7:41influenced by, they do this. Not because they're looking for
- 7:46If but because they're looking to get paid and by the fact that
- 7:49they mentioned subscribers and how many views you get all the
- 7:53time shows me that this is about narcissism and feeding their
- 7:58egos and looking smart and playing games with other people.
- 8:04If you're the type of person who thinks that someone isn't worth
- 8:08listening to are watching because they're not popular, or
- 8:12because they don't have thousands of subscribers to
- 8:14their name or because cuz they're a part of a certain
- 8:17religion or a certain group, then you my friend are a
- 8:21childish, want And it's funny because a lot of the people who
- 8:26think this way are not popular themselves, a lot of these
- 8:30people don't have one subscriber to their name, probably less
- 8:34than five and they're the same people who are constantly
- 8:38bragging about how irrelevant you are, even if you've got
- 8:43thousands of subs and they don't.
- 8:46So not only do they insult you, but they lie to themselves and
- 8:50live in their own stew. And delusion, it's weird like
- 8:53that But like I said, I always knew Ronnie had a road.
- 9:00I didn't know if it was going to lead to Christianity.
- 9:02I didn't know if it was going to lead to Jesus Christ, but I knew
- 9:05that it was for him. He wanted to know the truth, he
- 9:10fought for it. He fought for it.
- 9:12And I think that that's the big difference between some non
- 9:15believers who claim they tried. And then non-believer who
- 9:19actually is trying. There's a lot of people out
- 9:22there who have these testimonies where they say, but I prayed and
- 9:25I tried this and I used to even be a Christian But then when you
- 9:30talk to them about the Bible, they don't know anything about
- 9:33it. They don't know anything about
- 9:35the history of it. They know nothing of it, yet
- 9:38they claim to be a Christian. I can tell you right now from my
- 9:42own personal observation and experience that.
- 9:45A lot of people that I've met who claim to be Christians and
- 9:48even some who claim to be preachers, wouldn't know where
- 9:53to start. If you were to get into a
- 9:54discussion having to do with the Bible, Some of them have never
- 10:00even read the Bible. I was literally on a church
- 10:03phone call talking to a preacher.
- 10:05And I said, I know this might be an unusual question for you
- 10:08because you've been a preacher for a long time.
- 10:10But have you ever actually read the Bible cover to cover?
- 10:14And the preacher says, what we talked about the Bible all the
- 10:17time and I said, obviously you're a preacher, but have you
- 10:20actually read it? Remember, Thou shalt not bear
- 10:24false witness and the preacher actually admitted.
- 10:27He never Read Genesis to Revelation from beginning to
- 10:31end. There were times where I asked
- 10:34preachers, what is the second book in the Bible?
- 10:37That is so easy but Exodus and some preachers they couldn't
- 10:43remember that right off the top of their head.
- 10:45It wasn't like I was asking them what the 20th book was or the
- 10:49fifth book. I was asking them the very
- 10:51second book after Genesis and they could not get it.
- 10:58I've played video games with Ronnie.
- 11:01I've talked to him, I was introduced to him by watching
- 11:06his discussion between Matt Powell and him all throughout
- 11:11time. All throughout their
- 11:14interactions through their disagreements, through their
- 11:16agreements. And the only thing I could think
- 11:19of in my head, as I'd really like to get to know this Ronnie
- 11:22guy, I'd like to be able to have conversations with them.
- 11:26And as I watched his videos at first, I'll be honest with you,
- 11:30it was about why Does he have issue with God for?
- 11:33Why does he have issue with religion?
- 11:35And I started discovering that he had, a lot of personal
- 11:38issues, he had a lot of family members who in a way disrespect
- 11:42and him, it's like they wouldn't give him the the Kudos that he
- 11:47had earned or that he deserved. No.
- 11:51The love wasn't there. Like, it should be.
- 11:56I also discovered that the man was going through, a lot of
- 11:59health issues that he's going through a lot of pain.
- 12:02And I know for a fact, having health issues myself that
- 12:05whenever you're suffering whenever you're hurting and when
- 12:09you discover that, the very doctors and science itself is
- 12:12not able to resolve some of your problems that you just going to
- 12:16lay there in your own stew. You don't know if you're going
- 12:18to be able to walk, you know, know if your backs going to give
- 12:21out, you don't know if you're just going to sit there and rot
- 12:24away. These kind of things really get
- 12:27to you and they make you question everything.
- 12:30It also will make you bitter towards the concept of God.
- 12:34When my health issues first started, it was while I was
- 12:38getting into atheism, and it made me angry.
- 12:41It made me pissed. I said, if there is a God, then
- 12:44why would God let me suffer? And on top of that, why would
- 12:47God let people? I love and care about suffer.
- 12:51See. It starts a big garage like a
- 12:53snowball effect. The ball Starts rolling down the
- 12:56hill and picking up More Steam and more more snow and it
- 13:00becomes heavier stronger and nastier.
- 13:03But unfortunately, the direction that it goes the simply is at
- 13:08some point in time, it's going to crash, it's going to fail.
- 13:12It's going to run into things that you may not have wanted to
- 13:16happen. In fact, your Snowball Effect
- 13:19might run into people that you love and care about and run them
- 13:23right over. And then where you going to be,
- 13:26what are you going to do? I think, I don't know if Ronnie
- 13:32agrees with this, who are not. I don't know if he even knows
- 13:35enough about me to even be able to make this assessment.
- 13:38But I feel like he and I have a lot of in common, you know,
- 13:44tried for years, looking for the truth, finding out was right?
- 13:48The difference between me and Ronnie is it took me many, many
- 13:51more years before I finally surrendered my soul over to a
- 13:55higher power when I finally accepted that, There's more to
- 13:59the universe than meets the eye. Unfortunately, Ronnie.
- 14:04And I have also went through the same negative experience, where
- 14:07we informed our audience, we told our audience, this is where
- 14:11we're at in life. This is what's happening and
- 14:14although it appeared at the moment that some people were
- 14:17supportive, and still cared about us and still want to be
- 14:20our friends. There were many people who
- 14:23basically told us to go screw ourselves that we just our trash
- 14:28now. And that's that really can make
- 14:31a person like Ronnie or myself better.
- 14:33I know that that made me better for a long time because I truly
- 14:37love these people and I know that Ronnie loves his audience,
- 14:42I know that one of the things that he lives for is being able
- 14:45to get on a live video and talk to people that he thinks is his
- 14:49friends. And when you find out that these
- 14:52people were never your friends, that they were just using your
- 14:56live Channel. As a way to be able to spit on
- 14:59God or religion. And now, all of a sudden you're
- 15:02associated with it, you automatically become the Enemy.
- 15:06No matter what you say, no matter how much love you, give,
- 15:09no matter how much logic or rationality do you that, you
- 15:13give our, why it is that you've changed?
- 15:15Positions are accepted the position that you're in.
- 15:20Well, some people, no matter what you say, no matter what you
- 15:24do, you just can't fit in. And popularity well get out of
- 15:32here, some people watch other YouTubers simply because they
- 15:36are atheist. Some people watch other
- 15:39YouTubers simply because they do spit on God.
- 15:43And when that tradition goes away, their form of
- 15:47entertainment, then you go away to and Ronnie at this point is
- 15:52experience and not little by little my assault.
- 15:57From The Atheist Community was a lot more intense, it was more
- 16:01hardcore. I'm not saying that Ronnie
- 16:04wasn't an exceptional atheist or something like that, but a lot
- 16:09of atheists looked at me as a mouthpiece.
- 16:12They looked up to me, they even had names for me like the
- 16:16god-killer, so it was devastating for them.
- 16:19Whenever I walk atheists, do not like to believe that.
- 16:24It's possible that someone can find God.
- 16:27They like You convinced himself that once you're an atheist, it
- 16:31would be a form of retardation for you to change your views,
- 16:35especially if you are a big mouth like me and Ronnie where
- 16:38you talked, a lot of a lot of trash towards God or religion
- 16:42and then you turned around and said maybe there's something to
- 16:46it. Maybe there's some point to it.
- 16:51It couldn't be possible that people grow up though, right?
- 16:56We couldn't be argued. That sometimes when you're a
- 16:59young person you got a lot of stupid thoughts in your head.
- 17:02You got a lot of anger and you're trying to figure yourself
- 17:05out in life. You trying to learn how to be a
- 17:08good, father, a good, man. You trying to be good to your
- 17:11family. It couldn't be that you started
- 17:15learning more, as you got older and a lot of things started
- 17:19making sense to you. That didn't make sense before.
- 17:21Now that can't be argued because young people, especially young
- 17:26atheist, they don't understand that they don't comprehend that
- 17:28concept but it happened she get older, you go through changes.
- 17:34You go through what they call spiritual and psychological
- 17:38Evolution baby things. Start sparking the light bulb
- 17:47starts getting brighter. I'm very proud of Matt Powell
- 17:55and Ronnie. I'm proud of Ronnie because
- 18:00Ronnie deep down inside knows that coming out and doing this
- 18:05is going to break a lot of people's heart, but for him,
- 18:09Ronnie's going to always do what he thinks is the right thing to
- 18:12do. I'm sure that Ronnie spent hours
- 18:17and hours, perhaps weeks months considering what he was doing,
- 18:22and the choices that he was making, this wasn't something he
- 18:25just did on a whim, and he didn't do it for some Financial
- 18:28benefit. And how do I know that?
- 18:31Because he did the same damn thing I did.
- 18:34I had thousands of videos this and on religion and God and I
- 18:38removed every single one of them after making a promise to God
- 18:43that I'm going or God here on out.
- 18:46And all my atheists of atheism, garbage is gone and whenever he
- 18:51discovered or came to the View that God is real, that there is
- 18:57something going on. He didn't feel the desire to
- 19:00keep up, all that work and all that time.
- 19:03All those videos, all that years worth of content, he removed it
- 19:09and said it's time for a change. It's time for Ronnie to be.
- 19:15What Ronnie was meant to be? To me, ladies and gentlemen,
- 19:20that takes courage. It takes courage.
- 19:24There's a lot of people out there.
- 19:27That will never accept God because accepting God means they
- 19:31lose their paycheck from atheist.
- 19:34They lose the audience that they once had And that's hard and
- 19:40besides that you also Lose Friends, you lose popularity and
- 19:45sometimes like myself you have to start all over again and you
- 19:50have to find people who love you for who you are.
- 19:54And nothing else. But you know, I've always said
- 19:56and I hope Ronnie takes us to Heart.
- 19:59I'd rather be hated for who I am the love for something.
- 20:05I'm not that's my philosophy. I'd rather someone have sincere
- 20:11feelings about who I truly am. Then to be accepting me for
- 20:15something. I'm totally not Well, Matt
- 20:23Powell, I hope that you and the family does.
- 20:25Well and I hope that the health is good.
- 20:28I miss our conversations. I do but I'm going to respect
- 20:33your space. Ronnie, I respect you and I
- 20:37appreciate where you've come and I always enjoy watching your
- 20:41life stuff. I always enjoy hearing what you
- 20:47have to say. I know it's going to be weird
- 20:51changing from this to that and being able to talk about other
- 20:55topics and you'll most likely find yourself in the same
- 20:59position as I did. Where I was kind of a hybrid
- 21:03between atheism and theism where I still from time to time, found
- 21:06myself getting critical, God and God's people, but I grew and I
- 21:12matured and I was able to become more open-minded and learn more.
- 21:17As I went along. It was really interesting for me
- 21:20to Ronnie because I started making friends with people.
- 21:24I never thought I'd be friends with.
- 21:27I started hanging out with people that I never thought that
- 21:29I would ever do, but I also lost a lot of people.
- 21:34I never thought I would ever lose.
- 21:37It's weird how that works. My mother used to tell me that,
- 21:40whenever you're at the bottom of the barrel, whenever things seem
- 21:44like it's impossible, and it doesn't seem like there's a
- 21:48doorway, You're an escape and site, that's when you'll truly
- 21:52know who your friends are. That's who and when you'll find
- 21:56out who loves you, And Ronnie Matt, I love you both.
- 22:07Mistakes flaws are not love you both.