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Psychic Surgery, Trance Channeling, Mystery School | David Lotherington · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: So it's the gods that are, let's say the old
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Speaker 1: gods might be the Norse pantheon or the Egyptian pantheon
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Speaker 1: or the Greek pantheon.
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Speaker 2: These beings, they.
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Speaker 1: Create the underworld, essentially, and these commercials with the goal
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Speaker 1: to get you to be recycled into the system where
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Speaker 1: they can perpetually feed on your entropy, which is your
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Speaker 1: emotional leakage.
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Speaker 3: David Lotherington, thanks so much for doing this. Really appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: It's been an amazing time and amazing journey really here
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Speaker 3: being with you and going through this journey with you
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Speaker 3: and the school and everything. I really wanted to bring
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Speaker 3: you on because it's been a while since you've been
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Speaker 3: on the channel. But for people that are not familiar
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Speaker 3: with you, I had you on like right in the
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Speaker 3: beginning of everything. And I had an energy healing from
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Speaker 3: you that I really feel like propelled me into everything
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Speaker 3: that I'm doing right now. I mean, if it wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have been for that energetic healing moment, From you, I
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Speaker 3: don't believe that I would be doing the things that
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Speaker 3: I'm doing right now. So the utmost gratitude to you
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Speaker 3: and everything that you've done and all the things that
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Speaker 3: you've accomplished so far and you're starting a school. So
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Speaker 3: it's really great to be here with you, brother.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Roger. Appreciate you. Thanks forever.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Pleasure.
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Speaker 3: How exactly does that work? Because I think that that's
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Speaker 3: a really important thing and what I would implore everyone
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Speaker 3: to really do is get that healing first because it's
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Speaker 3: really going to open you up and basically awaken you
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Speaker 3: to everything that you need to do. So how exactly
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Speaker 3: does that work?
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Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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Speaker 1: So like most of the time, people don't even know
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Speaker 1: that they have entities in their field or attachments, or
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Speaker 1: they don't know that they're actually blocked up for manifesting
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Speaker 1: what they want into their life. Or they can have
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Speaker 1: many things like addictions, for example, that are all because
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Speaker 1: they have blockages in their field. So for the person
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Speaker 1: that has never had an energy healing session before, this
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Speaker 1: is not Reiki that I would.
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Speaker 2: Be doing, it would be psychic surgery, which is much
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Speaker 2: more advanced.
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Speaker 1: It's not just adding energy to the field, but it's
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Speaker 1: removing things that don't serve your highest and greatest good
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Speaker 1: from your field, which allows you to manifest exactly what
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Speaker 1: you want into your life. So I typically address every
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Speaker 1: chakra individually. So I'll begin with the root chakra, then
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Speaker 1: the sacral, then the solar plexus.
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Speaker 2: I'll work my way up the field.
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Speaker 1: Each chakra is responsible for manifesting certain things. Like for
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Speaker 1: the root chakra, it's responsible for manifesting security, um, It
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Speaker 1: has to do with money. It has to do with
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Speaker 1: your structure and your.
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Speaker 2: Stability in your life.
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Speaker 1: So if you're moving around a lot or you have
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Speaker 1: a bunch of different jobs, you may have a weak
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Speaker 1: or very blocked up root chakra potentially. So for that person,
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Speaker 1: they may very well want to have a clearing done
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Speaker 1: in the root chakra and that will help them to
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Speaker 1: manifest these things into your life. Because your chakras are
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Speaker 1: responsible for manifesting your reality. If they're blocked up, then
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Speaker 1: you can't They can't exactly do what they need to
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Speaker 1: do in your field. So removing anything from the field
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Speaker 1: is good, as long as if it doesn't serve your
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Speaker 1: highest or greatest good. Entities are a very complex issue,
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Speaker 1: but they'll typically manifest in chakras that are more blocked up.
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Speaker 1: If you have a negative pattern or belief system that
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Speaker 1: exists in your life for a long period of time,
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Speaker 1: if you create a space and something that's made to
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Speaker 1: fill that space or fill it. So An entity, if
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Speaker 1: you have a terrible belief system on certain things or
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Speaker 1: you hate something, then that can cause an entity that's
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Speaker 1: attracted to that hateful energy to come into your life
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Speaker 1: in that particular area. So depending on what the shopper's
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Speaker 1: responsible for will influence what sort of energies they'll be
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Speaker 1: attracted to the entity.
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Speaker 3: Can trauma have an entity come in and attach to you?
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Speaker 3: I believe that trauma is a really good... inducer of entities?
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Speaker 3: Like entities can just come in because you've opened yourself
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Speaker 3: up essentially to them. And is there a difference between
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Speaker 3: an entity that comes through trauma and then an entity
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Speaker 3: that you could possibly maybe pick up by being in
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Speaker 3: a location that, you know, people would call a paranormal
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Speaker 3: style of entity?
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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Speaker 1: So I would say entities are actually all over the
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Speaker 1: place all of the time. But if you don't have
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Speaker 1: the flavor that they enjoy, then they won't be.
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Speaker 2: Attracted to you.
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Speaker 1: So if you are always optimistic, happy, confident, you're feeling good,
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Speaker 1: you just accomplished a task, you feel a sense of completion,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to be interested in you at all.
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Speaker 1: Because that's not the flavor of emotion that they feed
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Speaker 1: on or the frequency that they enjoy. But if you're
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Speaker 1: in fear or shame or guilt or apathy or hatred, suffering, pain, sorrow,
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Speaker 1: these sort of frequencies, a certain type of entity will
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Speaker 1: be attracted to that certain type of frequency. And it's
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Speaker 1: not a huge deal to have hatred for a couple
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Speaker 1: hours or even for a day. They'll see you and
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Speaker 1: they'll start to come towards you if you are experiencing
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Speaker 1: these negative emotional fields. And they're feeding on you through entropy.
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Speaker 1: I could talk about that later if you want, but
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Speaker 1: it's a complex subject. And... But typically, you'll have to
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Speaker 1: have that emotion for a long period of time. So,
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Speaker 1: for example, if you hate someone and you've been hating
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Speaker 1: them for months or even years, then you're definitely attracting
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Speaker 1: something that feeds off of hate energy. That's the entropy
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Speaker 1: that they're feeding on. And they will establish themselves in
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Speaker 1: your field more permanently if you experience that emotion for
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Speaker 1: too long.
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Speaker 3: You guys were recently in San Francisco. If we decided
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Speaker 3: to go to Tor Alcatraz Prison, it would be harder
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Speaker 3: for an entity to attach to you just by being
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Speaker 3: in a certain location, right?
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Speaker 1: So in that particular location, there may be more deceased
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Speaker 1: humans in that area, like ghosts, let's just say. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how many ghosts are attracted to death by electrocution,
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Speaker 1: like what happens necessarily in that circumstance, but usually the
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Speaker 1: entities are feeding on emotions. If you have like a
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Speaker 1: bright light and you're a very conscious person, it's possible
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Speaker 1: that a deceased being will be attracted to you if
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Speaker 1: you go to that space because you have the ability
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Speaker 1: to share their message with other people, which is interesting
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Speaker 1: to them. But if you had no, if you weren't
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Speaker 1: a channel or medium or telepath, they would probably not
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Speaker 1: be interested.
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Speaker 2: Necessarily in you.
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Speaker 1: But if you had a certain particular affliction of like,
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Speaker 1: Perhaps you're depressed or you had some other negative emotion
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Speaker 1: in your field for a long time. You're really hating
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Speaker 1: on someone or very jealous or whatever it might be
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Speaker 1: in the negative spectrum. Then it's very probable that negative
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Speaker 1: entities that have fed on prisoners in the past will
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Speaker 1: be attracted to you while you're there.
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Speaker 3: I guess I just want to really emphasize how important
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Speaker 3: the energy healing aspect really is. And I'll just give
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Speaker 3: you a really quick rundown of what it did for me.
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Speaker 3: I felt like I had this real negative weight on
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Speaker 3: my shoulders for a really long time. And whenever I
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Speaker 3: got the energy healing done from you, it was like
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Speaker 3: that weight just lifted. I just felt so much lighter.
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Speaker 3: And everybody around me at that time, this was how long?
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Speaker 3: This was like seven years ago. This was like 2019
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Speaker 3: around that area. And whenever I had that done, everyone
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Speaker 3: around me at that time was like, man, you just
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Speaker 3: look lighter. Like, you just look so much better. And
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of getting the chills right now just talking
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Speaker 3: about it because it was a really important part of
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Speaker 3: my journey. Maybe you can explain it better. But it's
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Speaker 3: just like a weight, like the weight of the world
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Speaker 3: just on your shoulders at like all times. And it's
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Speaker 3: very difficult. Some people might explain it as like a cloud,
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Speaker 3: a negative cloud that's always over there, a black cloud, right?
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Speaker 3: That's like the perfect... representation of that. And I felt
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Speaker 3: that for so long.
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Speaker 1: So that blimey cloud could be an entity in your
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Speaker 1: field or like an astral being that's just like feeding
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Speaker 1: on your energies, essentially. So it's better just to come in,
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Speaker 1: get checked out. It's very likely that many people have
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Speaker 1: one entity. Like if they're over 30 years old, they
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Speaker 1: probably encountered an entity in their field because they probably
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Speaker 1: had breakups or They've lost their job or they're having
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Speaker 1: money problems or whatever might be they would definitely Learn
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Speaker 1: something from the session and get something like even if
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Speaker 1: it's just a frequency increase That will shake the oogie
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Speaker 1: boogies from your field because they don't like that frequency
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Speaker 1: They will you'll become incompatible with them if you can
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Speaker 1: change your frequency to be high enough So they like
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Speaker 1: cold dark damp spaces where your frequencies are low like
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Speaker 1: a nasty basement But if you're feeling great, you're elated
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Speaker 1: with life and life is good, then they won't want
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Speaker 1: to be around you. Sometimes the session is more cerebral
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Speaker 1: and you're learning about how to change your patterns rather
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Speaker 1: than energy. Like I always do all of it together.
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Speaker 1: It's like sometimes I'm channeling while I'm doing the healing
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Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm removing bad things. Sometimes I'm adding good
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Speaker 1: things to the field. Sometimes it's just reprogramming. and your
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Speaker 1: current perspective in your life to help you see the
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Speaker 1: answers and solutions to a problem that you have in
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Speaker 1: your life.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I agree with that 100%. And with me, it
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Speaker 3: was a little bit different because I already kind of
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Speaker 3: understood a lot of different concepts and I was kind
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Speaker 3: of already enveloped into the spiritual community. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: had been, you know, looking into all kinds of stuff
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Speaker 3: since like 2008, you know, like a long time ago.
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Speaker 3: And so that kind of, It kind of just got
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Speaker 3: rid of... Again, it just got rid of the weight.
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Speaker 3: But for some people that don't really know about... any
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Speaker 3: of those concepts and are kind of maybe new in
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Speaker 3: their journey uh do you think that it would be
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Speaker 3: different for them to get an energy healing than because
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Speaker 3: i've sent quite a few people to you before and
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Speaker 3: they've always had a really positive experience just for the
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Speaker 3: people that i online and also people that i know
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Speaker 3: in my personal life, because I think that, you know,
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Speaker 3: this is a really important thing for people to get
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Speaker 3: done that really transforms their entire life. Uh, but do
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Speaker 3: you think that it would be different for somebody that
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Speaker 3: had been hanging on to things, uh, for a lot longer,
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Speaker 3: maybe doesn't necessarily believe in energy healing and stuff that
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now is 100% real and everything
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Speaker 3: that Dave has done has, uh, I mean, I could
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Speaker 3: feel it when he was working on me. I could
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Speaker 3: 100% feel it. And anybody that doubts, I mean, Mel
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Speaker 3: Gibson is on Joe Rogan talking about energy healing. It's
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Speaker 3: very real. It's a very real thing. Do you think
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Speaker 3: that it would be different for someone that doesn't really
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Speaker 3: know about any of this kind of stuff? Like, would
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Speaker 3: it be different for them in how it would manifest
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Speaker 3: in their life than, let's say, someone that was kind
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Speaker 3: of familiar with it, that not necessarily on the beginning
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Speaker 3: of their journey, but had been in it for a
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Speaker 3: little bit longer?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So let's say, I don't want to say anything bad,
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Speaker 1: but like a more mundane person, a person that's like,
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Speaker 1: more NPC-ish. They're not really into spirituality. They're not really
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Speaker 1: into psychic stuff or interested in anything spiritual or faith.
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Speaker 1: They still leave feeling lighter. So they're like, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what it is. I can't explain it. But they
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Speaker 1: might have had a vision during the experience. They definitely
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Speaker 1: leave with a brighter perspective on their current situation. And
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Speaker 1: they usually receive information on how to solve the problems
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Speaker 1: that they're dealing with. But everyone leaves feeling brighter and better.
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Speaker 1: They can't put their finger on it exactly what it is,
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Speaker 1: but they feel better or brighter. Now, if someone's more
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Speaker 1: initiated and they know, like, they're clairsentient or clairvoyant or clairaudient,
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Speaker 1: they know about a few past lives, or they know
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Speaker 1: more about the chakras and manifestation and things, you're going
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Speaker 1: to get a lot more out of this session, actually,
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Speaker 1: because I can go a lot deeper with you as
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Speaker 1: a person because... People that are initiated, they have a
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Speaker 1: lot more questions because there's so much to flush out
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Speaker 1: in the spiritual world that you may have questions about.
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Speaker 1: And I've been down the road for a long time,
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Speaker 1: I can say. So I've been practicing for like 13
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Speaker 1: years now. And I've learned a lot of stuff on
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Speaker 1: the way so I can help anyone out individually as required.
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Speaker 3: It's almost like an energy therapy session. Energy therapy session
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Speaker 3: with Dave. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'll do everything I can during the time that we
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Speaker 1: have to like clear your field, remove any entities from
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Speaker 1: your field, remove any implants like energetic or etheric implants
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Speaker 1: from your field, anything that's blocking you from manifesting whatever
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Speaker 1: you want in your life. And that by itself is
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Speaker 1: very valuable. Like if you just remove all the blockages
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Speaker 1: or an entity, one entity from your field will help
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Speaker 1: you out tremendously. But if I'm also giving you angles
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Speaker 1: to approach your life in a different way, that helps
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Speaker 1: you on a more 3D way, more practical way. And
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Speaker 1: if you want to learn how to do certain things
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Speaker 1: like exercise wise, I can give you the exercises because
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Speaker 1: we have people who are late school. So before people
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Speaker 1: experience something real from spirit, like a real intuitive person, like.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of fakes out there. Don't get
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Speaker 2: me wrong. There are.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, if you experience a real intuitive person, that's
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Speaker 1: very exciting for the soul. The soul is excited to
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Speaker 1: have all these wonderful opportunities that are beyond what is
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Speaker 1: in front of your eyes and beyond what you can
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Speaker 1: hear with your ears. And that can call the soul
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Speaker 1: into the person, and that can trigger an awakening. And
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Speaker 1: if that happens, then they get curious about all the
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Speaker 1: things that are spiritual.
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Speaker 2: It just expands indefinitely into.
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Speaker 1: The rabbit holes that exist out there. So sometimes it's
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Speaker 1: the catalyst that you need for your awakening process.
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Speaker 3: Talk about channeling as well, because channeling is also a
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Speaker 3: very real phenomenon. Angela Ford, which is in my documentary,
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Speaker 3: she's a Army intelligence, DIA remote viewer, psychic spy that
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Speaker 3: was employed by the government. And she was a channeler.
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Speaker 3: She was an automatic writer. That is a different form
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Speaker 3: of channeling, but it still is channeling nonetheless. So could
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Speaker 3: you speak a little bit about channeling and how you
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Speaker 3: became to be a channeler?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This is a bit of a story, but I guess
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Speaker 2: we're all here for stories.
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Speaker 1: So there's many types of channeling. There's clear channeling and
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Speaker 1: trans channeling. And there's things that you can do while
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Speaker 1: in these states. So clear channeling might be like speaking
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Speaker 1: light language.
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Speaker 2: Like.
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Speaker 1: And some people can translate that. Some people can't. Most
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Speaker 1: people just.
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Speaker 2: Hear it as babble or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But it's a light language, a quantum language. And this
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Speaker 1: can activate things in your DNA, for example. Some people
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Speaker 1: lightly channel when they do automatic writing. So as you said, like,
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Speaker 1: I usually will close my eyes.
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Speaker 2: And start typing.
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Speaker 1: And then when I open up my eyes, there's like
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Speaker 1: five pages written of material. And I'm like, I'm reading it,
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Speaker 1: and it's not the style that I would normally write in.
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Speaker 1: And it's more profound than I.
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Speaker 2: Could actually probably kill off, let's be honest.
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Speaker 1: But other people, they channel when they do ballet or
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Speaker 1: interpretive dance. or they channel when they're playing piano or
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Speaker 1: drawing with a paintbrush. So channeling comes in many forms,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people actually do have their channeling
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Speaker 1: shopper open, just not a ton. And they can benefit
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Speaker 1: from that because they become more intuitive and reactive in life,
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Speaker 1: which is great. But when you're doing trance channeling, that
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Speaker 1: is like, there's certain percentages. So some people do low
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Speaker 1: trance channeling, which is like under 5%. of that being's
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Speaker 1: energy is in your field and communicating and speaking through you.
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Speaker 1: And really advanced channelers can channel over 10% approximately of
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Speaker 1: that being's energy. So, um, the more that you can channel,
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Speaker 1: the more information you can access that this brain doesn't
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Speaker 1: have in it. So I can, like when I'm channeling,
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Speaker 1: I can access vocabulary that I don't have in my
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Speaker 1: understanding or knowledge. Um, and also not just vocabulary, but
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Speaker 1: also concepts, and the mind is much more organized, and
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Speaker 1: everything is just much more clear and concise when channeling.
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Speaker 3: And I have to say that Dave has channeled some
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Speaker 3: entities for me, and I 100% believe that, I don't
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Speaker 3: know exactly what it is that he's channeling, but he
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Speaker 3: is in fact channeling something that is not just him,
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Speaker 3: or not just his higher self, and I'll sometimes say
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Speaker 3: his higher self, or my higher self can't, come through
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Speaker 3: in the channeling but uh the person or the entity
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Speaker 3: that i am talking to i know is not dave
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Speaker 3: because they know things that it would be impossible for dave.
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Speaker 2: To know they just have the answers to things it's
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Speaker 2: very crazy to get the reading there yep for.
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Speaker 3: Sure So I 100% believe in channeling and I have
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Speaker 3: actually spoken about you before on the show as one
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Speaker 3: of the best channelers that I know and one of
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Speaker 3: the only energy healers that I trust. Okay, let's get
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Speaker 3: into the school and what the school is and how
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Speaker 3: the school came about. Sure.
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Speaker 2: The Order of Light Academy is the name of the school.
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Speaker 2: It's a mystery school.
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Speaker 1: And it began six years.
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Speaker 2: Ago, this October.
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Speaker 1: Um, when I was working on a client and they
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Speaker 1: were suicidal and I did everything I could to help
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Speaker 1: them energy healing wise.
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Speaker 2: And once I ran into things to teach them, they said, I.
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Speaker 1: Want to learn what you do. I want to learn
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Speaker 1: how to do what you do. And I want to
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Speaker 1: learn the ways of essentially spirit.
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Speaker 2: So I said, okay.
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Speaker 1: I started teaching them week after week after week. And
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Speaker 1: after that was all done, I taught them everything I
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Speaker 1: knew at that time. I put all that material together
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Speaker 1: and that is what created the original mentorship program.
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Speaker 2: So that's like a condensed form of all that was teachings.
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Speaker 2: Now I taught many people over.
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Speaker 1: The years, but the school began evolving and beginning.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know it would be a school.
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Speaker 1: I just was offering something on my website as all
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Speaker 1: things like that.
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Speaker 2: Are interesting, naturally mature.
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Speaker 1: Um, eventually I suggested that the people that went to
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Speaker 1: the mentorship program join me on Sundays for just a
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Speaker 1: casual gathering. But during that casual gathering, I would channel
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Speaker 1: for that.
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Speaker 2: I started channeling.
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Speaker 1: And more and more people joined the mentorship program, and
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Speaker 1: I started to create a Sunday class and a Wednesday class, eventually.
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Speaker 1: And I would just channel the gods, variable gods. Some
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Speaker 1: are dragons, some are angels, some are titanese, and galactics,
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Speaker 1: and everything in between, pretty nice. And things that, you know,
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Speaker 1: serve our highest and greatest good for humanity was the intention.
19:24
Speaker 2: And then we got the school, essentially. That became the school.
19:27
Speaker 3: We're actually on one of the school trips. Dave was
19:32
Speaker 3: nice enough to let me tag along for this because
19:34
Speaker 3: it's in California and I live in California, so it
19:37
Speaker 3: was easier to get together like that and meet in person.
19:42
Speaker 3: And how is this school done right now? Is this.
19:46
Speaker 2: Yes, so typically.
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Speaker 1: We do everything through Zoom, and if you want to
19:50
Speaker 1: join the mentorship program, which is essential if a school
19:52
Speaker 1: is currently, we're currently watching a new program though called Foundations.
19:57
Speaker 2: And that's going to.
19:58
Speaker 1: Be, if you don't know anything about spirituality at all,
20:00
Speaker 1: but you want to learn like from the best teachers,
20:03
Speaker 1: which would be higher dimensional beings, then join that program.
20:07
Speaker 2: It'll be 199 bucks to booth.
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Speaker 3: Perfect, great.
20:11
Speaker 1: And that'll teach you from knowing nothing to knowing everything
20:14
Speaker 1: you need to know.
20:15
Speaker 2: Plus more.
20:16
Speaker 3: But if they want the advanced, how do they get
20:18
Speaker 3: the advanced?
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Speaker 1: The advanced material takes a bit of time because foundations
20:24
Speaker 1: is the foundation. And it's going to have way more
20:27
Speaker 1: than you've ever learned from Reiki or any other modality.
20:32
Speaker 1: It's going to be tremendously valuable. You'll learn about portals, galactics,
20:37
Speaker 1: like different species. You'll learn about all your claribilities.
20:40
Speaker 4: Telepathy how to do energy healing um you learn how
20:44
Speaker 4: to ground and protect yourself you learn about the merco
20:47
Speaker 4: bone the matrix and it just keeps going on and
20:49
Speaker 4: on and on so because i.
20:51
Speaker 3: Think that some people believe that you have to go
20:55
Speaker 3: to be in person for an energy healing to happen
20:58
Speaker 3: which you did give uh me an energy healing in
21:01
Speaker 3: person while we were here uh but i did not
21:05
Speaker 3: feel any different from you being in person than us
21:09
Speaker 3: doing it.
21:10
Speaker 1: Virtually right so energy doesn't care you just think of
21:15
Speaker 1: it like this like if someone that you love is
21:17
Speaker 1: in space you still love them and they may be
21:21
Speaker 1: able to feel your love or your connection like for
21:25
Speaker 1: example if any of you have experienced feeling someone pop
21:28
Speaker 1: into your head and then they call you or you
21:31
Speaker 1: receive a text from them That's telepathy. So this is
21:34
Speaker 1: the quantum entanglement that occurs during an energy healing session.
21:39
Speaker 1: So I essentially create an astral form of the person
21:43
Speaker 1: that I'm working on right next to me. And I
21:46
Speaker 1: connect to your energetic field and I create a copy,
21:49
Speaker 1: which is a proxy. And then I can just work
21:51
Speaker 1: on this copy and it will work on you.
21:55
Speaker 3: Someone would like an energy healing. How would they contact
21:59
Speaker 3: you or sign up to get an energy healing from you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can contact them through my personal email,
22:04
Speaker 1: if you want, david _ _ lotherington.
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Speaker 2: Hotmail. com, or you can go to our website.
22:10
Speaker 1: Our email address is info at orderoflightacademy.com, and our website
22:16
Speaker 1: is orderoflightacademy.com. And we've been building a tremendous amount of
22:20
Speaker 1: information in our archives. We have probably 450 video, two-hour-long
22:25
Speaker 1: video lessons, essentially, an hour to two-hour-long video sessions. And
22:31
Speaker 1: they contain the sequences of the universe, essentially, like what
22:34
Speaker 1: happens when you die and all the questions that we've
22:36
Speaker 1: been wondering, like, uh, what is a soul and, um,
22:40
Speaker 1: why am I here?
22:42
Speaker 2: All this fun stuff. A little bit of taste of that.
22:45
Speaker 2: What does happen when we die?
22:49
Speaker 1: Debt is a multi-layered process and it's broken down into
22:55
Speaker 1: frames and cells of time. Um, which makes it more
23:00
Speaker 1: complex to explain, but I'll try to give a simple version.
23:03
Speaker 1: So there's like different ways to die, essentially. If you
23:05
Speaker 1: die dramatically, like instantly, and you don't even know that
23:08
Speaker 1: you die, then you can become a wandering spirit potentially
23:12
Speaker 1: because your mind is intact. Your mind is not your brain.
23:16
Speaker 1: And your mind has certain belief systems that it believes
23:20
Speaker 1: it's still alive. If that's the case, then you can
23:22
Speaker 1: like just drift around. But if you die of old
23:25
Speaker 1: age or you know kind of death is coming, because
23:29
Speaker 1: you had a trauma or whatever it might be. Then
23:32
Speaker 1: you start going through these phases, and I think it's
23:36
Speaker 1: very similar to what the Tibetans learn about is regarding bardo.
23:40
Speaker 2: So you spend, I.
23:43
Speaker 1: Don't know the exact amount of days, but you spend
23:47
Speaker 1: a certain amount of days processing your depth, and you
23:51
Speaker 1: watch your eulogy, you can see the people that love you,
23:56
Speaker 1: that care about you, that gather at your funeral. So
23:59
Speaker 1: I think a lot of deceased actually will gather. This
24:02
Speaker 1: is just what we learn from the gods. From Osiris,
24:06
Speaker 1: from Odin, and other beings as well that we learn from,
24:09
Speaker 1: particular teachers.
24:11
Speaker 2: And Titans as well.
24:12
Speaker 1: But anyway, you take some time to appreciate your life,
24:17
Speaker 1: but you're still experiencing time as a human would. even
24:20
Speaker 1: though there's less constraints on time and you're disincarnated. But
24:27
Speaker 1: after that window, let's say one week approximately, then you're
24:32
Speaker 1: challenged by the 15 commercials.
24:35
Speaker 2: This is what we've been told. There's 15 commercials. And
24:39
Speaker 2: it sounds ridiculous.
24:40
Speaker 3: Sounds like a Hulu ad.
24:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous. Anyway, each one of these commercials is
24:44
Speaker 1: perfectly designed for you as an individual person. So one
24:50
Speaker 1: might be you'll get to reincarnate as a king and
24:54
Speaker 1: you'll have fame and all fortune and all this stuff,
24:58
Speaker 1: which might be very appealing to one person, but not
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Speaker 1: appealing to another person.
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Speaker 2: Right.
25:03
Speaker 1: One another person might want to redo their life over
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Speaker 1: and take a different path. That will be an option
25:09
Speaker 1: for that person to choose.
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Speaker 2: They might choose.
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Speaker 1: To be a celebrity in a life. Or they might
25:17
Speaker 1: want to reincarnate as someone in the 1400s. It'd be
25:19
Speaker 1: a knight, right? Of a particular round table, maybe.
25:23
Speaker 2: Who knows?
25:25
Speaker 1: But whatever your greatest dream is, these are these 15 commercials.
25:31
Speaker 1: If you choose any one of these commercials, which are
25:33
Speaker 1: extremely temptuous and customized specifically for you, then that's the
25:39
Speaker 1: bug zapper, essentially. So that causes you to get reincarnated.
25:44
Speaker 1: and you go into the underworld at that point. Once
25:48
Speaker 1: this happens, you essentially have to process your karma. So
25:52
Speaker 1: karma is tallied. So positive karma yields positive tallies, and
25:58
Speaker 1: negative karma yields negative tallies. And that's tallied by both parties,
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Speaker 1: not just you for doing the thing, but also for
26:05
Speaker 1: how the person interpreted that thing, that trauma. You may
26:11
Speaker 1: have believed that it wasn't traumatic at all, But for them,
26:14
Speaker 1: it might be traumatic. So you're kind of at the
26:18
Speaker 1: will of that or the whatever word of that other person.
26:23
Speaker 1: So anyway, you go through time backwards once you reach
26:26
Speaker 1: the underworld, which is a wild concept to think about.
26:31
Speaker 1: There is a movie where Jim Carrey visits the three
26:35
Speaker 1: ghosts of his Christmas pass. And I'm told that that's
26:39
Speaker 1: fairly similar concept. So you're guided by guides like Osiris,
26:45
Speaker 1: for example, who will take you to relive the moment
26:49
Speaker 1: of trauma that you produced or that you experienced.
26:54
Speaker 2: And you just do.
26:55
Speaker 1: That until you reach zero years old and you process
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Speaker 1: your karmas. There's a lot of information in the underworld
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Speaker 1: that I'm.
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Speaker 2: Not going to talk about because it'll take too long.
27:04
Speaker 1: But you can lose your humanity while you're dead if
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Speaker 1: you spend too much time let's just say messing around
27:12
Speaker 1: in the underworld, and you lose your intelligence, you lose
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Speaker 1: your emotions, and you become more of a shade or
27:19
Speaker 1: a skeleton, they prefer to it as. You lose your flesh.
27:22
Speaker 1: It's the term that the gods use. If you're in
27:25
Speaker 1: the underworld for too long, then you forget your humanity.
27:30
Speaker 1: But anyway, when you reach like zero years old, essentially,
27:34
Speaker 1: you enter the character creation screen, which is where you
27:37
Speaker 1: choose your avatar, who you're going to be, what you're
27:39
Speaker 1: going to look like, And you only have a certain
27:41
Speaker 1: amount of points to build that character. So everything costs points.
27:46
Speaker 1: You want to be like 5 out of 10 funny
27:49
Speaker 1: in that life? Okay, you pay this much points. And
27:52
Speaker 1: if you say, oh, I'm going to incarnate and have
27:54
Speaker 1: asthma and arthritis at an early age, then you gain
27:57
Speaker 1: points that you can use towards other things.
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Speaker 2: So this is what we're taught. And then you incarnate, essentially,
28:03
Speaker 2: into that body.
28:05
Speaker 3: So what if you choose to do the exact same
28:06
Speaker 3: life over again?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's possible to do it in
28:10
Speaker 1: the same time, same amount of time, essentially. If you're
28:16
Speaker 1: born in like 1984, like myself, like I don't think
28:18
Speaker 1: you can go back to 1984 necessarily in the same moment,
28:23
Speaker 1: but you might have to incarnate unless you're at a
28:26
Speaker 1: different body. I mean, it would be different because time
28:28
Speaker 1: is not relative.
28:29
Speaker 3: Relevant. But I've thought about that a lot, though. Like,
28:32
Speaker 3: maybe that would be the enticing thing for a lot
28:34
Speaker 3: of people would be to relive the same life with
28:38
Speaker 3: different outcomes, right? And that would be something to get
28:41
Speaker 3: us back into the 3D matrix would be to be like,
28:44
Speaker 3: just offer you the exact same life with a few
28:47
Speaker 3: twists and turns and better things here and better things
28:49
Speaker 3: there and different decisions there and, you know, to make
28:53
Speaker 3: your life better.
28:55
Speaker 2: Well, that might be one of your 15 commercials done.
28:58
Speaker 1: So it's the gods that are Let's say the old
29:00
Speaker 1: gods might be the Norse pantheon or the Egyptian pantheon
29:04
Speaker 1: or the Greek pantheon.
29:06
Speaker 2: These beings, they create.
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Speaker 1: The underworld, essentially, and these commercials with the goal to
29:12
Speaker 1: get you to be recycled into the system where they
29:15
Speaker 1: can perpetually feed on your entropy.
29:16
Speaker 2: Which is your emotional leakage, let's just call it.
29:21
Speaker 3: Briefly, what happens if you don't choose any one of
29:25
Speaker 3: those 15 commercials?
29:27
Speaker 2: Great question.
29:28
Speaker 1: So you go into, you take a different path. And
29:33
Speaker 1: so the longer that you're outside of your body for the, more.
29:38
Speaker 2: You let go of your humanity.
29:40
Speaker 1: So your humanity can be perceived as a weakness because
29:43
Speaker 1: your humanity is limited.
29:45
Speaker 2: You're limited. You can only be in this.
29:47
Speaker 1: Body for your whole life. And that, from a soul's perspective,
29:52
Speaker 1: might be a very limiting thing. You have to eat.
29:55
Speaker 1: You have to drink. You have to sleep. That's like,
29:58
Speaker 1: pretty hard limits and you can't really break those things
30:02
Speaker 1: however once you're out of your body for so long
30:06
Speaker 1: like your memory your brain can only hold so much
30:09
Speaker 1: information but your memory is infinite essentially there's no your
30:13
Speaker 1: memory is quantum and that's what you take with you
30:17
Speaker 1: upon death is your memory the longer that you're in
30:19
Speaker 1: the state of etherealness let's just say like out of
30:24
Speaker 1: body the more quantum you become. So you start entangling
30:28
Speaker 1: more to other lives, you start seeing loved ones in
30:31
Speaker 1: spirit form and in higher dimensions, and you start expanding, expanding,
30:35
Speaker 1: expanding as you gain more omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnipotent. So
30:40
Speaker 1: you essentially increase your dimensionality as you expand consciously, if
30:45
Speaker 1: you don't get enticed by one of the commercials, that is.
30:48
Speaker 1: But the commercials will get more enticing as you increase
30:50
Speaker 1: your dimensionality, which is like increasing your perspective of consciousness.
30:56
Speaker 1: So first, I'll just give a good example because you
30:59
Speaker 1: might say, well, 3D is boring. I don't want to
31:01
Speaker 1: be in 3D anymore. They'll say, well, have a 4D life.
31:03
Speaker 1: Do you want to be a Pleiadian? Wouldn't that be
31:07
Speaker 1: fun to have advanced technologies and, you know, be a
31:11
Speaker 1: beautiful being, do all this stuff where you could be
31:14
Speaker 1: a gray alien or maybe you want to be something
31:16
Speaker 1: else entirely different that you don't even know is an option.
31:21
Speaker 1: And then if you say no to all that stuff,
31:23
Speaker 1: fifth dimension will be there to offer you something. So
31:26
Speaker 1: you essentially continue to be offered different sorts of commercials.
31:31
Speaker 1: I don't know how many commercials are in higher dimensions,
31:34
Speaker 1: but just the third dimension. And eventually, if you say
31:38
Speaker 1: no all the way to the ninth dimension, you're incredible.
31:41
Speaker 1: You must be the coolest cat in the world to
31:44
Speaker 1: be able to get through all these enticements. But apparently
31:50
Speaker 1: at the end is one being. And I'm not going
31:56
Speaker 1: to get into too much of the detail here because
31:58
Speaker 1: it's more advanced information. Say for like adepts or masters
32:02
Speaker 1: to understand fully and understand it. But that being created
32:07
Speaker 1: our reality that we experience.
32:11
Speaker 2: We did too. But they also created it.
32:14
Speaker 1: So they have a part in creating materiality. So the earth, air, fire, water,
32:19
Speaker 1: let's say.
32:19
Speaker 2: And the void.
32:21
Speaker 1: And we're living in the limits of their construct, which
32:25
Speaker 1: is the matrix.
32:27
Speaker 3: One last question and I want to let you go.
32:30
Speaker 3: Is it important to, I don't know if you've channeled
32:32
Speaker 3: this or if you know anything about this, but I've
32:36
Speaker 3: heard that. When you die in the physical body, it's
32:39
Speaker 3: important not to be cremated or buried for a certain
32:44
Speaker 3: period of time. Because you just mentioned that you're kind
32:47
Speaker 3: of in the, you're still by 3D rules for about
32:51
Speaker 3: a week. Is that important for the, to not be
32:54
Speaker 3: cremated within a week?
32:57
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters. I don't think it's important
32:59
Speaker 2: at all.
33:00
Speaker 1: Because once you leave your physical container, you're not limited there.
33:05
Speaker 1: You're going to be sick anymore. You're not going to
33:07
Speaker 1: be sore or tired anymore.
33:10
Speaker 2: You'll let go of a lot of limitations, actually.
33:14
Speaker 1: By the sounds of it, it's great to be out
33:16
Speaker 1: of body because you're much more free. But you just
33:20
Speaker 1: have to observe the people in your life faster. Like,
33:25
Speaker 1: if you get cremated, you'll just visit them. Like, if
33:29
Speaker 1: you don't have a funeral and everyone gathers together, then
33:32
Speaker 1: you'll probably just zip over to their house astrally. And
33:36
Speaker 1: come back when you're finished. Nice.
33:39
Speaker 3: Cool. Thank you very much, Dave. Really appreciate it. One
33:41
Speaker 3: more time, can you let people know if they would
33:44
Speaker 3: like an energy healing or if they would like to
33:46
Speaker 3: join the foundations program, which will be available, or if
33:49
Speaker 3: they would like to join the school where they can
33:51
Speaker 3: do that?
33:52
Speaker 1: Sure.
33:53
Speaker 2: Check out my website, orderlightacademy.com.
33:56
Speaker 1: And if you want to join, just scroll down to
33:58
Speaker 1: the bottom, hit the mentorship button, and I'll send you
34:01
Speaker 1: an email shortly afterwards.
34:02
Speaker 2: I have one of my ADAPT.
34:04
Speaker 1: Students train you for the three-month period, and you can
34:07
Speaker 1: get your journey started. If you're looking for an energy
34:10
Speaker 1: healing session, zoom down to the very bottom of the
34:12
Speaker 1: page and make a $ 200 donation, essentially, and that just
34:17
Speaker 1: reaches me. And then I only work on Thursdays. I
34:20
Speaker 1: only do energy healing on Thursdays. But if you're interested,
34:24
Speaker 1: let me know, and I'll send you an email once
34:26
Speaker 1: your payment comes through.
34:28
Speaker 3: I highly recommend the school and I highly recommend the
34:31
Speaker 3: foundations first. But if those aren't your cup of tea,
34:35
Speaker 3: then I would definitely recommend an energy healing. I believe
34:40
Speaker 3: that would be the first step for you to get into.
34:43
Speaker 3: And I believe Dave is the best at it. Thanks
34:47
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