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#365 - For Azeroth!: “The End is Nigh” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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There is, there's a 0% chance I will do a dungeon between
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January 20th and the start of midnight.
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I just, I, I won't because I expect that it's going to be a
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casserole of nonsense. And my concern is not just for
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the people who enjoy it, but it's for people who are
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returning victory for the Forsaken.
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For Lauderon. For the Karen tour for.
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Pandaria for. Calendar to the burning region.
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For Gilnaeus, but have not done for the Lich King, for the
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Sindora, for the Alliance, for the Horn for Azeroth.
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Hello and welcome back to Fort Azra.
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Happy New Year to all of you guys.
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I hope that you had a wonderful holiday season.
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You got rested, you didn't fight with family.
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All that the good wishes from us to you.
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And talking about us, My name is Manny.
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I am one of the hosts. And I am joined, of course, by
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our favorite Tennessee resident. We have Lex.
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Lex, how are you doing? I'm good, although you threw me
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off by not saying. Welcome to another episode of
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For Azra. So my little dance got like
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utterly destroyed. I apologize.
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Worst thing that's happened today by far.
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I apologize. I'm good.
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I was able to catch up on some World of Warcraft stuff because
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we're, you know, like in a bit of a lull.
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So I was able to actually finally do the the rest of the
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storyline and I read Blood Ties and yeah, I'm feeling good about
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the World of Warcraft. It's been, it's been treating
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me. It's been treating me well.
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OK, did the book build up your hype for the expansion or what?
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What's your like quick review in one sentence of Blood Dies.
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Christy Golden is a master of her craft.
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OK, OK, strong words. And then coming to us from the
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wonderful province of Nova Scotia, we have Jean.
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Why is it OK to dox me but not lex?
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You've doxed yourself way too many times.
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It's over now it's it's over. I was upset that you didn't
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follow up with Lex's location by saying she was the only 10 you
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see. Get it?
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Audio first format. She's from, well, this video
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show too now. No, they could tell by this
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sound. I said audio.
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First, you, you definitely could tell by somebody's voice if
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they're A10 or not. You know, I could listen to the
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guy that does blonde zombies void.
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I don't I would never have to see a picture of that man.
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But just by hearing his voice, he's a 10.
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That's how I feel about the kite in Legend of Korra.
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Yeah, see, it's I get it. I get it.
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No, no, no, I'm doing good. I'm doing good.
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I haven't played as much Warcraft as I thought I would
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over the holidays. I've played a lot of Expedition
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33. Really loved that game.
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It's a masterpiece as well. I finished Blood Ties also and I
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agree with Lex, it's my favorite.
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Well, I agree with Lex that Kristy Golden is a master of a
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craft, but it's my favorite Warcraft book ever, and not just
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because it heavily focuses on Torelli and the one true hero
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that we need and deserve. Mine, yeah.
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It made me tear up. And at a moment that was doing
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something that I've been asking for for a very long time.
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Which is really incredible. You.
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Oh so you are really happy about what that event was?
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I felt rage and no longer wished that I had helped others to keep
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that person alive during this raid tear.
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Oh, I cannot possibly disagree more.
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And we can we. I I wanted, I wish.
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I see now I really do wish that we'd read the book before the
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episode with Live Laugh lore because I want to fight about
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it, but. I because we want to.
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Major support because the book completely redeems everything I
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said. I cannot possibly.
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Disagree. There's not.
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I do want to include the audience in Sorry.
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I do want to clue the audience in.
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If you want to know what in the world these guys are talking
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about. Sean was on one side of a debate
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and Lex was joined with Ali from Live Laugh Floor on another side
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of debate where they decided or at least argued the morality,
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the nature of Keralian, if he was a good guy, a bad guy, soon
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to be villain batted or not. And that is a YouTube exclusive.
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So make sure that you do check out the YouTube if you want to
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go through that. And maybe based on replies
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there, you guys could do a follow up now that you've read
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the book, because it seems like you guys have a lot more to say.
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But with that, let's talk about some of the stuff happening
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well, not in game, but soon to be coming to the game because
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the hour is closer than you know.
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As Sean said in our final live episode before the holiday
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break, January 20th is the pre patch.
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And with the pre patch, major changes are coming to the World
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of Warcraft. That includes, of course, the
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changes to the API. That includes the stat squish
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and Blizzard has come out the eve of Christmas Eve to let us
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know a couple of things that are going to be going away with the
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pre expansion patch. That includes no longer being
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able to earn AOTC or Cutting Edge.
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That includes that the Mythic Plus leaderboards will get
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locked in and the titles will be awarded and PvP as well.
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Those leaderboards will get locked in as well and that
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season will come to a close. I thought I was going to be top
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of the PvP leaderboards, damn it.
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You have still some time, Lex, to make your surge to the top.
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How close are you, Lex? I'm like so close man.
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Like I I I'm basically number one of the PvP.
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Could you give me just an example of a score that you
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think is close? I, I would worry that if I said
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01 that I think is close. I I don't know man, like.
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She would embarrass all the other keeping peers so they
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would give up hope and loose heart.
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I love it, I love it. It had all of the energy of
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Hello fellow kids. I play with players, therefore
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are we not doing I guess I'm not verses I love them.
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They're my best friend. I could never do player versus
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player. I my number one sorry.
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I'll let you guys actually talk about actual World of Warcraft
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things, but one of my earliest World of Warcraft memories was
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when I happened upon a horde player while I was Alliance and
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like we spent like probably 2 hours just like a modding at
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each other anyway. Not fighting, just like dance
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battling. No, literally, that's where I
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learned. About the essence of PvP and
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that horde. That horde player got to say
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like I survived an encounter with Lex rance #1 rated PVV
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player. She decided of all the hoardies
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to let me live, and that person will go down in legend.
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I'm not. You're not merciful.
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Also coming to its conclusion is Legion Remix, so if you are
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chasing down any trans mug, any of the mounts, any of the
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rewards that you can get out of there, you now have less than as
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of the recording of the show. 10 days before we are out of Remix,
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all of your characters that are in there will be converted to
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standardized characters. The standard character and all
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of the amounts will only be available at their like 1% drop
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chances or some not at all. So make sure you're doing that.
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Any of the decor that is currently only available in
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Legion will get shifted on to a new vendor, but the costs are
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apparently going to be quite higher, so you may want to put
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in that time. The last thing that we have is
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of course along with the stat squish that is going to be in
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there, Wowhead has reported on some data mining.
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This data mining is heavy nerves to our current raid, which is
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getting on top of the stat squish, A 40% overall damage
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reduction, as well as some targeted but not really
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fine-tuned nerves to a lot of the burst damage, a lot of the
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Dots, a lot of the timing to a point where some people may find
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that this content is going to be laughable compared to what it
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was that they were proxy against up until the free patch.
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So what do you guys think of this?
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We'll throw this to you first, Sean.
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I think we need to wait until it's live before we say how
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heavy the nerfs are. We are, yeah.
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We still don't know how exactly how classes are going to feel
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post stat squish and class redesign.
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A lot of classes are losing functionality that they have
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now. For example, protection paladins
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which got heavy play on Dementius for their ability to
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get 100% spell block, no longer have the ability to get 100%
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spell block. So if you are a prop paladin who
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takes all of the cosmic smashes from Dementius, you're going to
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have to come up with a new solution for that, potentially
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for your defensives because you can no longer 100% spell block
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those. So they are big an extra 40%
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nerf, but we'll see. We'll see how it looks when it
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goes live. The fractalist changes as well,
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I don't think are enough. They're changing it from 8
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seconds, sorry, from they're they're changing it from 7
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seconds to get to your lane, to hit your to create your walls to
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10 seconds. And I don't know that that's
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enough time. We'll see.
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We'll see. It'll be I don't know anybody
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who's even going to pull Fractus.
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I mean, maybe some of the top teams will, but there's no point
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for a lot of teams to it is hopefully enough, but it does
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show that they are at least aware that hey, we need to make
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some some changes. And I think it also speaks to
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what we can expect going into midnight.
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If you think of the current raid tier that we have now.
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And if if they're before a single attack has been made,
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saying, hey, we need to reduce this damage by 40% more.
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I think it speaks to like a huge change in design philosophy
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going into midnight, right? Like they have made characters
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significantly weaker. If this is what's needed for us
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to be able to clear, I don't think this is going to allow
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players to to walk through and face roll.
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I think this is going to make it just doable, but we'll see.
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Definitely see it goes in line with the changes that we've seen
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to healers and the changes that we've seen to defensives.
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Like it you just across the board defensives have been a
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subject of being paired back and healers part way through the
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beta. They did a lot to like remove a
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lot of the passive healing and it takes a bit longer like far
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longer than what we are used to on live to get those health bars
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topped up. So when you look at these
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changes to to like even the Dots where they're like, OK, like if
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it's a fast dot, like that 0.5 tick dot that got nerfed to 80%,
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right? If it's somewhat longer or
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rather slower taking dot, they've lengthened the length of
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it or like the in total duration of it, but they still reduce the
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damage so that healers have more time to react.
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There's less cooldowns that healers have to like constantly
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just be like, OK, we're going to yo-yo, your health back back up
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there. So it may be you're right that
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it's just reflecting the reality that damage intake has to come
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down by this amount to reflect the capabilities of healers and
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to not have of that kind of yo-yo health that we have been
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experiencing in the war within, especially in this last season.
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So. And now there's no way to know
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if you have a dot. So when the pre patch comes out
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because we have no debuff filtering.
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So it's great that we have 10 seconds on the Fractalist fight
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to get into our lanes, but we also now have lost the number
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one way to know if you even have the debuff to move to put it in
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the lane because you can't pull those those raid busty busts out
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separate. So we'll see, yeah.
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Yeah. So some significant nerves, this
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might be the new reality based on what healers need, what the
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defensives that we have give players the ability to.
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So this might be tuned somewhat in the ballpark of player
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capability, but that is a very nebulous target with how quickly
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the the tunings have been on the beta for both classes and for
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and for their relative defensiveness.
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So I think you're right, John, I think that we were likely to see
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additional tuning to some pain points that they didn't foresee,
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but it's really good that they have made some adjustments.
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One thing that we had, we haven't actually seen on any of
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these adjustments or any changes to Mythic Plus.
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And I think that there's going to have to be something in there
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because we're still dealing with like the interrupt reality of
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War Within with the packs, but we're suddenly going to be
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healers without interrupts and the new changes there and the
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coordination that will now need to be done accordingly.
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So I, I think I'm more worried about the music plus after the
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20th then I am the raid. And I do want to say something
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that Lex said while we are on a quick little break is that it is
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not ten days until Legion. Until this hits, it is 13 days,
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which is a ginormous, fantastically huge number.
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It's like almost 50% more, I guess it's pretty much exactly
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30% more. Yes, definitely 30% more.
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But you know what, your rounding may vary. 30 to almost 50
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depending on how you're rounding.
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OK, that zoomer math, we're doing some of that zoomer math.
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This is why you guys can't afford houses, Lex.
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This is why we have AI to get that zoomer math that makes
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sense. But I do want to quickly also
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say to the issues that the actual World of Warcraft we're
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talking about. I think that's a really good
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point with the mythic plus issue, especially because Mythic
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plus, like if you're doing like if, if you're feeling the need
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to still kind of try to catch up in preparation of midnight,
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Mythic plus is what you'd be doing, right?
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Because you're still getting gear right.
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You're getting a little bit of gear from rating.
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But by and large, once the AOTC is gone, maybe I'm just an
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AOCAOTC chaser. And so to me, once AOTC is gone,
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rating is just a little like frankly, I would I think Ollie
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old rage should be face rolls. I think that's fun.
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I think it's fun that you get to go in and boom, and all of a
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sudden Jane is down. Like I think that's I picked the
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worst boss because she has faces.
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But you know what I mean, right, like that's that's the joy of
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raiding an archaic patch. So I don't have any issues with
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them nerfing the life out of that because in my AOTC chasing
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opinion sick now you get everything rolls over for you.
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But mythic plus is I I know there's some people who would be
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still wanting the gear and the prep so that they're able to get
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to the point in like so once they're getting into midnight,
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it's easier. Not me.
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I don't I'm it's it's mess around time in Lex land.
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I've done everything I need to do.
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It's time to vibe. But my understanding is that
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there are some people who are like good at the game and want
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to go into midnight with good gear.
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So I would imagine that them struggling with mythic plus is
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going to hurt more than them not being able to or them struggling
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with rate in general if if they've switched which ones they
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wanted to put the the nerves on. Yeah, it's there's also people
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who just like dungeons, they like Mythic Plus, and they play
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it for fun. Crazy.
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I don't believe that. Is there's a 0% chance I will do
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a dungeon between January 20th and the start of midnight?
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I just, I, I won't because I expect that it's going to be a
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casserole of nonsense and my concern, but it's not just for
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the people who enjoy it, but it's for people who are
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returning and getting ready for midnight.
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And if Mythic Plus is a dog's breakfast for those people, then
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that could potentially turn them off of even trying it in
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midnight. And that like they, it's, I
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don't think we can afford to roll the dice and say good luck,
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dungeon runners. I think something needs to be
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done and I believe they will. There there's the Blizzard dev
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team has been doing this for a very long time.
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They know what they're doing. They know what the play race is
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doing. They will address Mythic Plus in
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some fashion. There's no world where they
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don't. If we go between now and
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midnight and there's no change to current Mythic plus to
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account for this wish, I'll quit podcasting, which is going to
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suck because I do it for a living.
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That's how confident I am. We're going to get changed.
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And that's fair that we're that was this is a little doomery
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because it's not even like World of Warcraft said, these are the
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things that we are doing in preparation for the midnight pre
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patch. It was data mine.
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So it's possible they just haven't, you know, put the I
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don't know how coding. For it might be in the next
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build like so like there's there's still time.
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Well, yeah, maybe, maybe the release candidate.
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Such a change the release candidate patch.
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Is already loaded though. Yeah, but such a change would be
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like set up to be hit hot fix when it when it went through.
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Yeah, yeah, with that. Said I don't want to quit
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podcasting, so surely it will happen.
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Fast Dev, if you make Sean quit podcasting, who will I even
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snark with? No, no, no, that can't happen.
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Yeah, this would be a snarkless show.
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OK, so then John, let's get into as much of your podcasting in
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while we still have you. You want to cover the next
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subject. Yeah, we got some Mythic Plus
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dungeon tuning on the midnight beta.
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There was a blue post that came out yesterday or the day before
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January 6th it looks like. So yesterday to say hey gang, we
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don't have a new build for you yet.
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Now, incidentally. As we are recording this, Algol
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on the Observer has pointed out that there is a new vendor build
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on Wow 3 right now. Like it went out 15 minutes ago.
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That is a more current version of or a newer version of beta.
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So there is a new build now. I anticipate servers will be
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brought down soon to to push this and then we'll get dev
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notes. But there is a new build out and
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oh, why? And they did.
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So they've, they've opened up until then, they've opened up
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all eight of the dungeons. They said, hey, welcome back
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from Christmas. Now, a lot of folks wish that
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this had happened before the Christmas break, that we would
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have had two weeks of unfettered access to all eight of the
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dungeons to test them as opposed to just 4.
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But we didn't. We do now, though, we have all 8
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dungeons available. And there is in those dungeons
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targeted tuning to the Ick and Crick fight.
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This fight has gotten more adjustments than any other
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fights, I think in the next season.
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And it's probably because it was awful when it first came out and
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they're attempting to rectify some of those pain points.
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Initially, they went by initially, the first things they
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did was to to reduce some of the damage to see if that helped it.
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And people were like this. And the problem isn't the
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damage, it's the frequency of the casts, the number of the
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casts, that's the problem. And in this tuning pass, they've
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changed that and they've adjusted the frequency of
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abilities happening and then ratcheted back up some of the
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damage to account for the fact that they're happening less
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often. So the fight might be better.
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I haven't gone and tested myself, but it this post better
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addresses the issues with the Ick and Crick fight, which was
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just how often all of the stuff was happening, and I expect that
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we'll see similar targeted tuning to some of the other
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dungeons as we get closer to Midnight.
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While the pre patch is launching January 20th, Midnight doesn't
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launch until February 27th and early access.
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So they do still have some time to make changes to the dungeons
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to get them in a good spot, and hopefully they continue to do
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so. Beyond, I just apologize, sorry.
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Beyond the fine tuning that they've put in for those those
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dungeons and those particular bosses are, what would you say
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are other dungeons that should be looked at?
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All of them have too many casters still in my opinion.
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So look at that would be 1 and then I think it was those are
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the Mysara cavern. Mysara caverns are narrow like
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one of the troll ones. It's the visuals are just green
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and you have to like activate tributes to some in Aloha and
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there's not enough tributes to activate that.
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You can avoid doing the fishing tribute where you have to stop
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in the middle of the dungeon and fish that can't go live in
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mythic plus like that. There can't be a section in my
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mythic plus where I have to fish.
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So either increase the number of tributes available or decrease
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the number required because that's ridiculous.
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I. Think that's.
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Cute. I think that's fun.
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What makes? It different than like a role
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play boss. We don't want those either, Lex
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we we actively dislike role play, and that gets frequently
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removed or reduced. That's fair, but I think it's.
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Something that's fine in Mythic Zero.
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I think it is something that should be avoided in any timed
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run. Like what's what's the game plan
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there that you 4 man the rest of the dungeon while you've got the
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5th man fishing to like just beat it along?
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Yeah, your healer fishes while you do another pull.
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Yeah, like 6. I can finally just.
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Degenerate finally put off. Yeah, it it encourages
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degenerate play in order to circumvent what is basically a
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time sink. Yeah, OK.
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All right. With that said, oh.
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And fix all the healers. Sorry that's my last one that's
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not dungeon specific. But the healers are not happy,
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Rick. You're talking about players as
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healers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
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Like no classes, the classes as healers.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not they're not.
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They're not the dungeons that are healing OK.
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No, no, no, no, no. The players.
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Yeah, the players. Got it.
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OK. Yeah, I I think that goes back
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to your rate frames for the majority of things.
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Should we talk about the rumor? What rumor?
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The there was a rumor that started going around.
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No, we shouldn't. We shouldn't.
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No, I feel like. You guys literally have to
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message this to me on discord if we're not going to talk about
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it. I don't know what's going on.
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Yeah, I'll, I'll let this out and we'll move on, OK?
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I think we should leave in where we decide not to talk about the
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rumour so people can ask what rumour.
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I'm going to leave it in the video.
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I'm even going to leave this part in the video where I say we
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should leave it in the audio. OK, fine.
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We're leaving it in. Sean, do you want to give us the
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next part, which is our iTunes thank yous?
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Yeah, I'd love to. I want to give a special thanks
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to all our patrons and all our listeners, not just the patrons,
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but especially the patrons for Azeroth.
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We'll always be free, and you can actually be a free patron.
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Patreon doesn't mean paid, just means you follow us on a
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patreon.com/faz. And this isn't a Patreon
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But we had our vote on what to call the community over the
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holiday break and it was decided that for the next 365 days, when
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we will have another vote to see if we keep this name, we will
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be. And that was just decided in
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this moment, we without these things, without consulting my Co
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host, we we called the yeah, the community will be called
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Fazzers. I love it.
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And yeah. And special thanks to the
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patrons who showed up for our community hangout, Coroneen and
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Epidemi. We had our first ever for
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Azeroth community hangout the weekend and I was supposed to
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record it and I did but then I reformatted my entire PC and put
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a new Windows build on and deleted it so now it will only
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ever live for those two. It was the coronine and epidemi
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for Azeroth special. So now if you want like, the
27:10
story of my wow love life, you'll have to go to those two
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or or Lex and her brush with, like, the dark arts.
27:18
Yeah. It's not at all a game of
27:20
telephone to find out why Lex was banging corpses.
27:26
No, that's completely not what happened, but if you want to
27:30
know the true story, go ahead and jump in the fast discord and
27:35
Lex can defend herself, but we are going to move on from it.
27:39
Corpse banging Lex, that's what we call her in the For Azeroth
27:42
private channel. No CBL.
27:51
Manny is going to message like all of the devs he knows and be
27:55
like you guys. You.
27:57
Cannot fix Mythic plus between now and midnight because I need
28:01
Shawn to drop out. I feel like you're projecting
28:04
Lex, the old Cpl. Why don't you take cover Transmo
28:08
changes. Old Cpl. projecting again.
28:13
Let's do it. So kids, we're going to get
28:15
major revamp to transmog surprise, surprise.
28:18
And that means everything is money and money is scary.
28:21
We get it. So let's talk about it.
28:23
So there's going to be a big revamp to the transmod system.
28:26
This has not been one of the things we've talked about a lot
28:28
because there's been so much going on and basically every
28:31
show has been like a drinking water hose.
28:34
But let's let's get a little a little thing we missed.
28:36
So when in the new system, each slot can be trans item slot can
28:42
be transmod to a different appearance as part of an outfit,
28:45
right? So an outfit is now if like the
28:47
full body everything, you retain the look of your chosen outfits
28:51
when you replace your gear. So this means if you're doing
28:53
the thing where you're rating and you get like a new hat, you
28:57
don't suddenly have like a cute little outfit and a Big Blue
28:59
blazy, nasty, horrible thing on top of your head, right.
29:01
So when you change things out, as long as you're in a certain
29:03
outfit, you keep it when you're saving.
29:07
Saving that outfit is going to cost a certain amount of gold
29:10
based on the number of slots that are trans transmogrified as
29:14
well as your character's level. Once you save an outfit, you can
29:19
switch between outfits with no cost and a three second cool
29:22
down. And am I correct?
29:25
Other people that do Like do I still I still need like a
29:30
transmog toy or thing out right? I can't just like no.
29:33
No, no. You can pull each outfit down to
29:36
your hot bar if you want and just go back and forth anywhere.
29:40
You do need a transmog thing to to set the outfit though.
29:45
OK, but I I once I'm like I can just like swap it out like
29:48
between bosses in a raid. OK, sick.
29:52
Everyone's going to start with two outfit slots and additional
29:55
outfit slots. And I want to remind everyone
29:57
quick no, as we discussed and outfits the whole thing, right?
30:01
It's not like slots in an outfit that we're talking about here,
30:04
so. There's the gear slots, and then
30:06
there is the outfit, which you can save a particular outfit in
30:10
an outfit slot. Yes, yes.
30:13
So we have two basically, you can pick, you can build 2 full
30:17
outfits. The cost of the so you're still
30:23
going to have to pay a little bit to save it, but you have two
30:26
outfits in. I'm sorry, I fully lost my train
30:29
of reading. You have two outfit slots and
30:34
additional outfit slots can be purchased with the price of each
30:37
subsequent slot in a non linear fashion.
30:39
The way they love to do it right where you're buying the slots
30:41
and they change drastically in price.
30:44
So on the beta, this is not locked in on the beta, the third
30:48
outfit slot is going to cost you 3.
30:50
Sorry 100 gold and then the 50th outfit slot costs 10,000 gold.
30:53
So that's what we're talking about right?
30:54
It's not like every single. One you missed a zero 100,000
30:58
gold. Yeah, 100,000.
31:00
That's a more reasonable number. Less reasonable.
31:04
Less reasonable by far, I think, if you've.
31:06
Gotten 50 outfits? It's OK for it to cost 100,000
31:10
gold. That's a lot of outfits.
31:12
Yeah, except that it's not just the 50th that costs 100,000
31:16
gold, the non linear fashion. Is that like the first little
31:19
bit like goes like 100, then 150, then 300, then 500 and then
31:24
there's like a little bit of a plateau for for a little bit,
31:27
it'll be like all your outfits will cost 250 and then it'll
31:30
jump again. And then the last like couple of
31:33
slots all cost 100K each. So as you're going for like like
31:37
454647484950, that's like 500K gold that you're going to.
31:43
Blow say, I think that is. Reasonable.
31:47
This may be a hot take. I might be ugly, and it might
31:49
just be that I cannot think of more than like, 3 outfits at a
31:51
time, but that makes sense. Like, yeah, if, if, if it's, you
31:56
know, at the very, very top end. I don't know.
31:58
I mean, there's an argument for me that all this should be free
32:00
because what, does it really harm anyone if I get a million
32:03
cute outfits? But there's also, I think if
32:06
you've gotten if, if, if you are so committed to the game that
32:09
you have like over 45 outfits, you probably also have quite a
32:13
bit of gold. That's my my guess.
32:15
But what? Do I know?
32:16
I, I there's just a couple of things I want to clarify.
32:20
Oh, please do so that it's super clear for everybody.
32:24
It's just some terminology changes that happened.
32:27
Also, I'm pretty sure you only get one outfit slot for free and
32:29
the rest start costing immediately.
32:32
On the beta as of today. I'm sorry there's a new build
32:35
out. Who knows what'll happen when I
32:37
log in later tonight. But as of earlier today, 2
32:41
outfits by default on all characters.
32:45
OK, yeah, that changed since last week then, because it was
32:50
only ever the first slot. You you sure you didn't buy one
32:54
and forgot? OK, like like.
32:57
Never touched the transmog before.
32:59
Going on to make the show notes today.
33:00
Make to make sure that I was verifying what was what.
33:03
OK, very cool, but I so it's just some terminology changes.
33:06
Right now in retail in the game you can design AAA transmog
33:13
outfit and save it in our outfit slots and you can have up to 20
33:19
per character of these saved outfits.
33:21
It costs you nothing to design it.
33:23
This is like when you do shift P and you open up transmog and
33:26
then you use control and Click to put it on your character in
33:30
the character pane and then you save it as an outfit that still
33:35
exists but that is now called custom sets.
33:39
So what you know now as outfits, which are the free to make and
33:44
design and save transmogs, those still exists.
33:49
They're now called custom sets. The new outfits that Lexus has
33:55
been talking about is this new slot that you buy up to 50 of
34:01
and once you lock a custom set into an outfit slot, it costs
34:08
you nothing to train change back into it.
34:12
So you, you unlock the slot for 100 gold or whatever the price
34:15
is. You unlock the slot, then you
34:17
pay your up to 2000 gold to, you know, depending if you're
34:22
wearing cloth or plate, you know, and everywhere in between
34:24
the up to 2000 gold to transmog your custom set into that outfit
34:29
slot. So to change each of the slots
34:32
and then you if you change nothing else from that point,
34:34
you never have to pay again. And whenever you change your
34:38
armor, it automatically changes to that saved outfit set.
34:43
So you're not a lot of people are really confused because
34:48
Blizzard used the term outfit to describe these slots.
34:52
And everybody now when they hear outfit, they think these free
34:56
slots where I can design things that it costs me nothing.
34:59
So they've all lost their minds. You are losing no functionality
35:07
and only gaming functionality. So what you do if you never want
35:12
to buy a trans mux? If you never want to buy an
35:14
outfit slot ever, and you just want to create custom sets and
35:18
then pay to equip them whenever you want, you can still do that.
35:25
And if you want to change just your hat, you can change just
35:28
your hat on that outfit slot from a custom set, so you can
35:32
still play the game the exact way you play it now, where you
35:35
pay every time you change a transmog set.
35:41
You just wouldn't unlock any other outfits is what you're
35:44
saying. You just have one or the 2.
35:46
Exactly, don't ever unlock an outfit slot.
35:49
I mean, you're not going to get any value from the scenarios.
35:51
Which lets us about to talk about and it's going to be
35:54
foolish to I don't know why you would not I would I would I will
35:58
want a custom I will want an outfit slot for almost all of my
36:02
custom sets so that I can just change to them freely, but.
36:06
You will still get some advantages from this any
36:09
especially at the beginning of the expansion when we're running
36:12
through zones and we're getting new gear and so by the time we
36:16
hit like level cap, we're back in the clown suit as it were.
36:20
That doesn't happen anymore in midnight.
36:22
You mean what if I want to be ugly?
36:24
I guarantee you. Can spend the goal to.
36:27
Do somebody's going to come on the comments of this video or on
36:30
Spotify and they're going to say, I like that at the end of
36:33
the leveling up, I look like a hodgepodge of what I did while I
36:36
was leveling. Why are they ruining that here?
36:39
It is how you do it. Then if you want to be in the
36:41
the hodgepodge thing, there is a option in this system for you to
36:49
ignore non transmog slots so that they will show the original
36:55
appearance. You can save that as one of your
36:59
outfits have that equipped and it will have 0 effect on you
37:04
right? You will be in full clown show
37:07
glory if that is what you so choose.
37:09
So even the people who want to come at us for that you are
37:12
covered by by Blizzard. Congratulations, next angry
37:16
comment. No.
37:19
You actually didn't need to Lex. You really actually did not need
37:22
to continue talking about the the system though.
37:27
Let's talk about situations. So one of the coolest things
37:30
about this new system in my clearly unbiased opinion, I
37:32
don't know why I said like, yes, I actually am unbiased.
37:35
It's not like I'm getting paid for this anyway.
37:37
Is that now your outfits change in situations or you can make it
37:41
so that your outfits switch in situations.
37:43
So these are things that they can be set to trigger based on
37:47
location. They can be set to trigger based
37:48
on movement, based on spec choice and based on equipment
37:51
sets. So if you, for example, want
37:55
like every time, what I'm probably going to be doing with
37:57
this is like when I walk into my house, I want to be in a cute
37:59
little house outfit. And then when I go into raid,
38:02
I'm in my bad ass raid outfit. But you can also set it so you
38:05
know, when you're switching specs, you have your tank
38:07
outfit, you have your healer outfit.
38:10
In this world, I guess we're playing a druid or you can also
38:14
set it to equipment set. So if you have different like
38:17
you know, I personally can't imagine, I guess yeah, if you.
38:21
Have this is the one that hits me the most because I will have
38:25
an equipment set that is like set up for more haste if I'm
38:30
doing a single target or more mastery if I'm doing an AOE
38:34
thing or the trinkets will also swap right?
38:37
And if the gear a parent swap so I can like look at my hair and
38:42
be like, oh wait, I'm running into this mythic plus and I am
38:45
not in my mythic plus AOE set. Regardless of of how different
38:52
that is in terms of gear. That would save me a lot of
38:58
stupid pulls. I will be very happy for that.
39:02
That is actually Manny, you are actually a genius for that
39:05
because I was not fully understanding why equipments
39:07
that transmog outfits would be beneficial.
39:09
But like that you might have also saved our raid quite a few
39:13
bad nights and like whispering people like hello you appear to
39:17
have a fishing pole equipped, do you want to not do that anymore?
39:22
Yeah, or even going between like raid bosses, like make sure
39:25
everybody's got their their cleave set put together and you
39:29
just look across the room and you're like, Sean, I know that
39:32
Viking set is your single target set.
39:34
Come on, come on. Let's let's switch off the God
39:37
of War. Let's get you into your your AOE
39:40
spec, one of my. Favorite things about this rate
39:45
or the the this podcast is that I learned these amazing things
39:48
that are proof of what a bad player I am because you guys
39:51
have different gear sets for Klee versus single target.
39:55
Like obviously you have different talents.
39:58
OK, so I'm bad at the game. Sometimes you will like
40:01
definitely for mythic plus versus versus like a raid single
40:05
target. There might be overlap between
40:08
like an AOE cleave, like it's it's very unlikely that you'll
40:14
have particular gear that will benefit you in a cleave
40:19
situation but not an AOE situation.
40:22
Like it's just not really designed that way.
40:24
But having it linked also because you can have your gear
40:27
sets linked to your talents, which then therefore changes
40:30
your your the look of your customization.
40:33
So even if the gear is the same because it's linked to your
40:36
talents, you will get that visual notification.
40:39
Just check your gear. I'll at the beginning of any
40:42
fight anyways, but still nice way of catching yourself.
40:46
It's usually just trinkets, but like I have my prop paladin has
40:50
a there's a shaman in the group set and there's not a shaman in
40:53
the group set because I need different mastery break points
40:56
to hit 100% block chance based on whether or not I have sky
40:59
fury. So if I have a shaman I can add
41:03
more crit and if I don't have a shaman I can I have to add more
41:07
mastery? I used to do that with symbiosis
41:09
all the time. Like if my druid was like going
41:13
to hit the put the symbiosis on me.
41:14
It's like sweet, switch, switch trinkets play a little
41:17
differently. I'm going to go nuts.
41:19
But Lex, you're right, that's a competitive advantage that we
41:22
have. So I think to balance this out,
41:24
they should not allow us to change gear ever.
41:32
I thought you were being too nice earlier.
41:33
You're like, well, there's no way that the devs will forget to
41:37
do that. I will stop podcasting if that
41:39
happens. I'm like, oh.
41:42
If you guys secretly want to quit podcasting, Manny, you
41:44
don't know on my journey. Or you can do what I'm going to
41:52
do with the outfits and you can be cute in different situations.
41:54
Oh, I'm going to do a little both.
41:56
I have definitely bought into this housing scheme so I will
42:00
have my lay about the house outfit for sure.
42:04
Yeah, it's going to be. Funny what I actually do in real
42:07
life when I walk into my house and I don't even fully
42:09
understand how I got into sweatpants when I'm just in
42:11
sweatpants and I'm like all right, sick.
42:14
Lex walks the door, spins around, little magical swirlies
42:17
go and she's in sweatpants. I'm a SIM.
42:21
Also, what they're doing in the game, that's probably what they
42:23
came they got the idea from. Oh yeah.
42:27
Yeah, definitely. OK.
42:29
Yeah, the, the take away from all of this news is this is only
42:33
positive. This is this Transmox system is
42:36
only positive if you hate it. If you are determined to hate it
42:40
and you really just want to keep paying gold to change your sets
42:43
every time you do something different, you can and the gold
42:46
price is comparable to what it is now.
42:49
So you don't have to be angry with the Transmox system because
42:51
you you don't have to engage with it at all if you don't want
42:53
to. Absolutely the exact same.
42:55
I like when I was doing testing for my level lady character on
42:59
beta versus my level lady character on live changing a
43:03
single item. But in this case, I was testing
43:05
weapons from one thing to that's exactly the same you're you're
43:10
down nothing. You're only getting more
43:12
options. Blizzard, this is AW thank you.
43:15
I can't wait for it to come into play.
43:17
And to those people who hate it, Congrats.
43:20
You also don't have to engage with it, so W for you 2.
43:23
You're welcome. Good guy Blizzard winning with
43:26
the trans muck changes. But wait, you guys didn't answer
43:28
my question. So what if I want like a really
43:30
nice outfit but like 2 pieces are just completely messy in the
43:34
middle of raid? What if I want to get
43:35
significantly uglier the longer I raid?
43:39
Just look at your damage meter I guess.
43:41
Oh. Hell yeah.
43:46
I did not test Lexi, you've you've stumped me.
43:49
I did not test if you can change outfits in the middle of combat.
43:53
With the with the bug, no way I don't I.
43:56
I, I don't know, but like you know what, I didn't test it so I
43:59
can't say for certain. Yeah.
44:02
Listers let me know if you are testing on the beta.
44:06
Just just switch outfits in the middle.
44:09
Let me know if it's possible. Oh, you can also, of course,
44:13
name them and put the icon on them as you can with your custom
44:16
sets. Yeah, sorry.
44:18
Your outfits, as they're called on live custom sets, as they're
44:23
called when midnight hits. And then of course, sets, which
44:27
have always been a thing. I, I think I like that
44:29
nomenclature better because sets and custom sets are really close
44:33
together and it just explains what you're, you're doing with
44:35
it. We didn't.
44:36
Love that, that's so true. But I think that's going to be
44:45
it for us today. We will definitely be reporting
44:47
on the new build if there are some goodies in there on the
44:51
next episode. And yeah, make sure that you are
44:55
tuned in because we will have more stuff coming in the new
45:00
year. Until next time, though, may all
45:02
your hits be goods.