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NFL Week 5 Coverage | Banter with the Boys - Gridiron Updates · Banter with the Boys

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  Get laced up. Let's go. It's time for banter with the boys.
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  Yo, welcome back to fire up.
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  Welcome back to Banter with the boys grid.
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  I update. Sorry, it's just a trigger.
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  I see it all fire up fire up.
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  Matt Matt is in my mind always, I guess. That's weird.
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  OK, another great intro by yours truly.
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  I'm smeltzy our cohost across the table from me, Rob, fellow Viking fan.
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  Rob, how's it going?
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  Excellent. Four and oh, start the season.
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  You already know. Yeah, you already know.
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  Didn't think I was going to be here at this moment.
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  So yeah, it was solid win.
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  I can't can't be mad about NFL's quarter way through.
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  Feels good. I'm ready to roll.
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  Ready to roll. Ready to roll.
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  Rolling right along to Mike.
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  Mike, welcome back for your second episode.
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  Thanks. Great to be here.
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  Excited to talk football again.
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  Not really sure how I feel about the Colts who got the W,
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  but it was kind of a awkward win.
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  Yeah. That's the best way to put it.
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  Andrew Luck Jersey. Andrew Luck Jersey.
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  I appreciate that. I like Andrew Luck.
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  Yeah. Yeah, he was a good guy.
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  How did you feel real quick before we introduce our final guest?
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  What did what?
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  How did you feel when they booed him out of the stadium?
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  Oh, not good. Yeah.
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  Bad taste. Yeah.
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  I would not have done that.
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  That day. No, that's that Jake right next to me.
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  Jake, welcome back for another episode again already in this young season.
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  Definitely. Thanks for having me back.
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  Ravens flock represent out of that.
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  Oh, and two hole looking good game winning straight. That's right.
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  There you go. Yeah.
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  It doesn't feel as good as four, but I understand what two feels like.
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  Wow. You know, when you have a tougher schedule than the Vikings.
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  Yeah. It's wait a minute.
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  Wait a minute. We'll get into that.
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  Yeah, we've got a pretty tough. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  But for now, we will edit that part out, probably.
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  I had to knock on wood there for I don't really mean to say that.
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  He'll say later.
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  With that, Kev, let's head right into our five game recap.
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  And starting right out of the recap, we're starting with the Vikes Packers game,
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  arguably the banner of the boys game of the week.
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  We never officially decided.
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  So there it is.
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  Vikes getting the win, 31, 29, going up fast and early,
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  and then letting the Packers climb back into it.
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  But Rob, why don't you take it away?
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  What what got you excited the most this game?
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  I mean, just the effect was the both the offensive defense in that first half.
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  You get up 28, nothing.
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  It just it changed the way you can play the game, you know.
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  And then they had a little hiccup right before half time
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  that kind of changed the momentum a little bit.
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  And then the second half, it's it's always tough playing with that lead.
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  You know, do you take chances and risk, you know, throwing an interception,
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  get back in the game, which actually happened on that darn old fumble.
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  Sure. You know, being aggressive, still trying to, you know,
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  keep the proverbial, you know, get a pedal on the gas.
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  We're going to see one of the pedal on the metal on the metal, sir.
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  But yeah, but a four and all, it's a victory.
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  And, you know, in that week, 10, no one's going to know
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  really what happened in that game.
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  It was just going to be a win in the in the column.
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  For sure. For sure.
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  How do you feel?
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  May, like you said, for no score to the bull.
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  You know what it is?
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  Mm hmm. Sam Darnold.
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  Everybody's talking.
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  I happen to catch a bunch of ESPN and related things today.
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  That's all they're talking about.
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  Sam Darnold so far MVP of the season.
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  Obviously, we know it's young.
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  We're also Vikings fans, so we absolutely know better
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  than to get super ecstatic about it.
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  That's why I knocked on wood right before we came into this.
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  Section because, uh, I don't know. I get it.
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  You know, but everybody wants to have that conversation about,
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  you know, who's MVP right now or the power rankings, how that shifts.
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  So which Vikings just went to one?
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  Yeah, you know, and they started off with what?
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  Seventeen at the beginning of the year.
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  So like things change.
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  It does, you know. So but yeah, it it feels good.
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  And JJ, oh my gosh, that catch, he had a couple catches
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  that just proves he's the number one receiver in the league.
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  Yeah, that the back shoulder touch.
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  So we talked about it last night on our short meeting there.
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  Well, short ended up going two hours because we ended up
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  watching the Lions Seahawks together.
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  It's easy to talk long victories.
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  Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
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  But the throw by Donald right, I mean, it hit him right in the chest.
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  I mean, you can't put it anywhere else. Yeah.
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  I mean, it was perfect.
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  So that's exciting for the Vikes.
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  Aaron Jones going for 93 yards at Lambeau did not get the
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  the touchdown for his Lambeau leap, but they tried.
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  They tried. They definitely were trying there at the end, but good on him.
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  Good game all around for the Vikes, obviously.
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  The Packers, though.
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  Is it just Jordan Love not quite healthy enough yet?
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  Do you think? Yeah, I feel like I mean, they came after him right away.
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  They did. You know, and he had a couple of turnovers
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  and then getting down 28, nothing to start.
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  Not going to help.
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  You know, then they can't run the ball.
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  I don't even know if it carries Jacobson.
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  We have nine. Yeah, exactly. Under 10.
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  So I don't think that's a winning formula going into the game.
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  That you're going to be like, yeah, we run Jacobs nine times.
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  We're definitely going to win this one.
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  Yeah, no. They played well.
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  Their defense is good.
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  And you know, they had some weird calls that interception at the end.
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  That McKinley's it's totally incomplete.
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  I don't know how they didn't see that in the replay, but
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  there was a lot of weird calls in general in the NFL.
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  And then it fell yesterday that will touch on a little bit.
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  But that's one of them.
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  Excuse me. But that's one of them for sure.
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  For the Packers, you know, obviously taking the L,
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  but they climbed back into it late in the fourth quarter, put up 22 points
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  in the fourth quarter at that, which is disgusting, if you ask me.
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  But they got the Rams, the Cardinals and then Houston, followed by Jacksonville.
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  I think they could go three and one in those games.
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  Yeah. I mean, they have this kind of that schedule we have.
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  They were we have some of the under 500 teams coming up, you know.
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  Yeah. So they have a great opportunity to bounce back.
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  Not a good look for them.
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  But I'm not really concerned as long as Jordan Love comes back
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  fully healthy for him at some point.
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  Yeah, I think they'll be fine.
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  I know you're not a fan of Watson, but him going down, does that
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  change a little bit there?
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  It's evening for you know, that he said deep threat, you know,
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  that makes that that safety, you know, respected.
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  He draws coverage.
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  That's like, you know, he's good enough to be on the field to draw that cover.
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  And I love their tight ends to the Packers tight ends, Kraft and
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  I'm blanking on the other Musgrave, other Musgrave.
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  I love those guys. Yeah.
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  I think they need to get them a little bit more involved, to be honest.
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  So with the non Vikings fans think, Mike,
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  I mean, did you get a chance to watch the game at all?
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  Yeah, I saw a little bit of the game and watch the recaps and
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  it both teams looked really good in obviously first half or second half.
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  It was kind of as advertised, not a tight game,
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  but both teams did what they do well.
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  Packers got another interception.
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  They've been doing that all year long.
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  That was kind of their key to the game.
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  They lead the league in interception.
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  I would assume so.
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  I think that's I think that was going into the game, I think.
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  Yeah, I think that was their eighth of the year.
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  So I think they they must lead the league.
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  Yeah, I mean, JJ, I think you're right.
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  He definitely is the best receiver in the NFL right now.
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  Darnold nailed that pass for the touchdown.
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  I mean, you didn't have to be JJ's caliber to make that catch.
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  Darnold made an amazing throw, but the catch at the end of the game to set
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  their down, seal it on the sideline.
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  I don't know. Amazing.
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  One of you two mentioned it last night. I call it. You did.
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  But like the way that JJ delayed putting his hands up to actually go back
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  and catch the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  He did put a perfect throw on it.
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  But how long he delayed to come back and like he saw it the whole time.
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  But how long he delayed.
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  Yeah, that's a really good point.
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  B not not turn. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good point.
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  Yeah, it was. That's just good ball skills right there.
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  You know, Jake, you want to say anything awesome about the Vikings
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  or the Packers?
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  The well, we'll say we'll say awesome stuff for the.
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  Oh, yeah, that's right. He's a half packer.
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  Yeah, that's right. We forget.
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  That's all right.
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  Is it all right? Yeah, it is.
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  No, it really is.
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  So the the the Vikings front four is, I think.
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  A lot so from weeks one and two, the Vikings front four is like,
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  I think, legit over these these excuse me, past four weeks.
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  They're legit. So.
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  They're going to be like just an absolute force to be reckoned with.
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  The way that they push the push the center or push the pocket back.
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  Yeah, really affected Jordan Love and his ability to even just like step
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  like step through on his passes all game long.
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  Yeah, the pocket was glass. It was, you know,
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  and then with the leg injury that makes him a little hesitant,
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  not wanting to step into that pocket either.
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  You know, absolutely.
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  So, yeah, Harrison Phillips is playing an excellent season so far.
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  Why you got an extension?
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  You know. Yeah.
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  But moving right along enough about our Vikings again, we're here all season.
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  Skoll to the bull.
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  We're going to keep hearing it. I do not care.
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  First off, I also wanted to point out
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  this is the first time I'm better with the boys.
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  We have had three separate divisions represented right now.
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  So that's that's kind of fun for us and as always and as advertised
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  champions and then AFC South and then the AFC North.
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  So it's just kind of fun to see different divisions.
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  So, again, if you're local, you want to voice your opinion
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  about your team or your division, hit us up.
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  Comment. Let's figure it out.
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  But we can take other guests. Yeah. Yeah.
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  You got something to say about your team.
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  We want to hear it. Let's hear it in person.
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  But anyway, moving right along.
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  Let's go right into Pittsburgh, traveling to Indianapolis.
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  Mike, I just want to let you take it away, man.
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  I mean, they got the dub, but it was an interesting game, to say the least.
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  Yeah, it was, you know, five minutes of excitement.
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  Anthony Richardson starts three of four,
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  I think, like 70 ish yards, three rushes for 24 yards.
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  He's doing everything that you want to see, except for sliding.
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  He's he's started eight games in his NFL career.
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  He's only finished four of them.
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  The other four, three designed runs and then a scramble,
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  all resulting in some sort of injury right now is day to day, which is great.
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  I think he'll play next week.
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  He wanted to play this week or he wanted to get back in.
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  They tried to get him back in.
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  Well, he tried to get back in.
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  Stike and said, we're going to talk about.
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  Yeah, Stike and said no to that, which I think was the smart call.
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  You've got a franchise quarterback.
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  You don't you don't let him make the decision on that.
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  You listen to your medical personnel.
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  I think that was a smart call on that.
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  But yeah, Joe Flacco, I mean, coming from the Ravens.
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  In Flacco, we trust exactly watched him bring the bring the Browns
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  to the playoffs last year.
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  And so he did what I said.
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  You know, Richardson needed to do.
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  Pittman had six.
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  Josh Downs had eight.
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  They had about 200 or 190 yards between the two of them and a touchdown.
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  That's what we need to see Richardson get to
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  is those completions, that number of yards
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  so that when JT goes for 21 and 88,
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  you know, that's a good compliment there and it works all around.
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  So it doesn't have to be him all the time.
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  Correct. Doesn't have to be JT all day long.
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  So my thing would be I really want to see Richardson learn to slide.
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  I mean, he's a big physical player,
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  but I mean, eight games and you're only finishing 50 percent of them.
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  Time to slide, dude. For sure.
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  And it's definitely helping that JT has been getting more consistent.
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  He started out slow, if I remember right.
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  First game or two is kind of slow, and then he also unpopped off.
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  And now he's been now he's giving you that consistent run game that
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  a you have to have in the NFL like we've discussed already this season.
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  But got to have it from a guy of of his caliber.
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  Yeah. 300 yards in the last three games.
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  So really solid.
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  Jake, how do you feel about the Colts going and.
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  Holding their ground against the Steelers, who have shown
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  they they could be tough this year, but they're kind of
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  they're kind of maybe on our list of pretender three and teams. But
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  three and one now.
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  Well, three and all come into the. Yeah, I guess.
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  Yeah. I'm kind of surprised by it.
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  I figured or felt like the Steelers defense was going to put a lot more pressure
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  on on that offensive line, get more hits, knock.
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  Well, not Richardson around.
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  Not expecting to knock him out.
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  But I mean, the the injury history is now it's stacking.
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  Yep. It's it's going to be part of the conversation every single time.
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  Going down that same rail.
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  Unfortunately, thankfully not had injuries.
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  Yeah. And Justin Fields is a complete wild card at this point.
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  Just like I like that.
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  I mean, hasn't he always been, though?
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  Kind of like you don't quite know.
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  Are you saying in the wild card in the sense that you don't quite know
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  which Justin Field you're going to get any given day?
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  Yeah. I mean, three hundred and twelve yards in the air.
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  Did he ever do that in Chicago?
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  Well, probably no.
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  I mean, that's a liking.
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  They were playing from behind.
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  They weren't they down big to start?
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  So, well, you know, more prevent defense.
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  So those skewed numbers.
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  But yeah, he never threw for three even when he was behind in Chicago.
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  Yeah. So I would agree with you that.
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  Yeah. So I would agree with you there. Yeah.
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  So yeah, just like you don't know what you're going to really get from Justin Fields.
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  So yeah, hats off to the Colts for knocking the Steelers down a peg.
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  Helps the Ravens out for sure.
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  Yeah. That's right.
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  That's why I wanted you to take on that for sure.
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  And Michael Pittman finally getting himself a game.
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  You talked about it last week.
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  He hasn't really had a game yet.
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  There it is. Yeah.
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  Did he get a touchdown? No, he didn't.
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  Just got opportunities.
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  I mean, you don't have to get a touchdown every week.
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  Just finally six receptions, 100 plus yards on nine targets.
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  Like, yeah, yeah.
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  I just need Brandi to show up.
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  I think that that's that's a whole different conversation.
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  I will be mentioned later.
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  I think Pittman's production, though, is really more of a result of Joe Flacco
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  being there, because that's the other knock on Anthony Richardson is he's not accurate.
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  Yeah. And he pulls down and runs it, let's say eight times a game.
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  There's eight targets that someone's not getting.
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  Potentially. Yeah, for sure.
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  100 percent. That's a great way to look at it.
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  So different style offense with Joe Flacco behind it.
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  But yeah, yeah.
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  All in all, two and two feeling I mean, after the one to start,
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  you got to be excited about two and two.
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  I mean, you know, I'm sure you're.
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  Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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  When you look at the numbers, teams that go or start
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  oh, and three, like six percent of them make the playoffs.
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  So you just might as well stick a fork in your season at that point.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and two is down at like 20 percent.
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  Yeah. Oh, and three is just you're done.
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  So not back at two and two. Yeah, that's true.
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  What is it? It's like six percent of oh, and three teams made the playoffs.
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  So something crazy.
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  So yeah, it's something really low.
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  You don't want to be in that boat.
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  So yeah, excited for for two and two.
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  I mean, we've got, you know, Jacksonville at oh, and four, Tennessee at one and three.
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  Like opportunities are there.
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  Those two are out for the season, though they both look pretty terrible.
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  So some wins there within the division split with Houston.
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  And we got a chance at the division.
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  Those are your next games coming up.
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  No, I was just saying just in general. OK, OK.
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  I was like, if those are your next games, I'm sitting AR
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  at least for the first game and starting Joe Flacco just to give them one more week.
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  But then I when he's healthy, 100 percent healthy, I'd put him back in.
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  Yes. I still think he deserves opportunities.
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  But moving on, sorry.
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  Sorry to go off on a small tangent there, but
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  moving now into chiefs at Chargers, chiefs getting the win 1710, our other
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  current undefeated team with the Vikings.
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  I think one's better than the other one Vikings.
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  But we'll talk a little bit about the chiefs.
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  I don't think you're wrong.
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  I know. Yeah, I can't argue.
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  You're kind of getting lucky.
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  I don't think I don't think the Vikings are number one,
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  but I don't think the chiefs are either.
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  Even with Herbert in this game, I'm a Chargers fan.
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  But even with Herbert in this game, the chiefs had no chance
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  of getting a win.
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  They had no business winning only by seven to me.
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  Yeah, I mean, if they're that for real,
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  I don't know why you're playing patty cake with the Chargers.
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  Yeah, but that's like a conference game, you know, division.
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  It is. And all those games, I feel like, you know, and then
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  the hardball style of football is shorting games up, you know, so
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  they lost rice like they're losing weapons, you know.
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  That offense is just I don't right now as explosive
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  without without Pacheco and Rice right now.
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  So I mean, what offense would it be, you know, scoring 35 points
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  that right now, two of their best players out?
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  Well, the Vikings still at J.J., but they were without TJ
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  and Jordan Addison for a hot minute.
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  True. But we also have Aaron Jones.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Now, again, stupid Vikings.
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  Yeah, I know. I love it.
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  It all circles back.
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  I mean, we can still do it.
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  Kareem Kareem didn't look that bad.
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  And now, you know, getting that for sure start going forward at the moment.
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  Maybe they got to look for energy from him.
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  I know that's asking a lot from a guy who really hasn't been that
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  that electric in a hot minute, but he's done it.
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  He could do it again.
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  You know what I mean? And Kelsey finally getting involved.
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  First game with an actual stat line, not seven for eighty nine.
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  So, yeah, he's back involved in the offense.
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  Derwin James being out, I think that's they expose that.
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  Scenario right there.
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  I mean, looking at this game, it was one. It was ugly.
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  I mean, you talk about not explosive offenses.
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  Justin Herbert in his first four years had four games under 180 yards.
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  And he hasn't even cracked that this year.
• 18:13
  They're just he I don't know.
• 18:15
  You want to be balanced, but you got to be balanced, which means
• 18:19
  utilizing one of their utilize in one of the back.
• 18:22
  So the ground is what he's been doing.
• 18:24
  You got to utilize Herbert more.
• 18:26
  He's a great quarterback.
• 18:28
  You can't there are 50 50 on run pass.
• 18:32
  Yeah, but I will say that Herbert came into the season, though,
• 18:35
  with that injury, and he continues to re aggravate the injury.
• 18:38
  So I would say that Herbert's probably not playing 100 percent at all this season.
• 18:43
  But that's a great point.
• 18:44
  I didn't even think about that.
• 18:45
  He hasn't heard 180.
• 18:47
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:47
  180. That's not even game manager.
• 18:49
  Like, that's just avoiding your quarterback altogether.
• 18:53
  But is that also not having big weapons on the outside
• 18:56
  that are gaining you those? Yeah.
• 18:58
  You know, to get those 250 day in our days, you know,
• 19:01
  Queen Johnson's more of a straight line runner, catch it and call it.
• 19:05
  But who's the little their rookie? Josh other rookies?
• 19:10
  McConkey, they got McConkey and Palmer.
• 19:12
  And I think Palmer's been hurt because I got him.
• 19:14
  You just got to did just get hurt.
• 19:17
  I just there's there's enough on that offense
• 19:20
  that you shouldn't be thrown for 180 or at least averaging under one.
• 19:23
  And they're missing the right tackle.
• 19:25
  Well, they miss both.
• 19:26
  They're both tackles. Yeah.
• 19:27
  I mean, the offensive line not being there this game
• 19:30
  should have been worse than. Yeah.
• 19:32
  Oh, absolutely.
• 19:33
  I don't understand how the Chiefs only won 1710.
• 19:35
  I just why I just don't believe the Chief should be concerned right now.
• 19:39
  A little bit. Yeah, they're four and oh, awesome.
• 19:42
  It's a it's a.
• 19:44
  Yeah, I'm going to say it's a weak division right now anyway.
• 19:46
  So they should be OK.
• 19:49
  I'm with you, Chief Nation.
• 19:51
  I think you're still the best team in the AFC.
• 19:54
  So I'm with you over here.
• 19:56
  You know, these are the best team in the country right now.
• 19:58
  And they have see they are.
• 20:00
  Yeah, that's why I told Ravens a toe would beg.
• 20:03
  Well, a the chief heard beat beat the Ravens.
• 20:07
  Yeah, but I know we know that that was a toe.
• 20:10
  That was a toe.
• 20:11
  It was still a W, no matter which way you look at it.
• 20:13
  So how do you get in the Super Bowl?
• 20:16
  When the game.
• 20:17
  You're right. You're right.
• 20:18
  It's just yeah.
• 20:19
  So Chiefs Nation.
• 20:21
  I'm with you.
• 20:22
  Chiefs Nation. Rob's with you.
• 20:24
  He's supporting Chiefs Nation.
• 20:26
  I love I love the little arrowhead, you know, tailgate party spot.
• 20:29
  It's awesome. Unbelievable.
• 20:31
  Yeah. My place to watch.
• 20:32
  Yeah, that's absolutely.
• 20:33
  I heard it's a really great atmosphere.
• 20:35
  It is amazing.
• 20:37
  Yeah. Went to a game there about two years ago.
• 20:39
  And so who did you see?
• 20:40
  Who did they play?
• 20:41
  We watched the Steelers.
• 20:44
  So it was the last time it was whatever year Ben Roethlisberger was playing.
• 20:48
  You just happened to be in town or what was the.
• 20:50
  We did just happen to be in town for specifically for that game.
• 20:53
  Because she wanted she wanted to see Roethlisberger play before.
• 20:56
  Oh, yeah. OK. She. She. OK.
• 21:01
  Fair enough. So.
• 21:03
  So I do all my football watching with
• 21:05
  fairs are man, smart man.
• 21:08
  Let's turn it over here to Jake, who's got to be just
• 21:13
  tickled pink that his Ravens absolutely throttled the Bills.
• 21:19
  Why don't you just go for it?
• 21:21
  So the tone got set right away.
• 21:25
  Obviously, the defense or Bills got the ball first, the defense stopping them.
• 21:30
  And then first play Ravens first offensive play from scrimmage, the 87 yard.
• 21:34
  Howdy, Derek Henry.
• 21:35
  How do you look fast to
• 21:37
  him at like almost 22?
• 21:39
  He's like 21.3 miles an hour.
• 21:42
  Sounds like my high school days. Yeah.
• 21:44
  And that's six to two forty seven.
• 21:46
  By the way, I don't think you were built like Derek.
• 21:49
  There was a five and so the four in that. Yeah.
• 21:52
  We're not talking 40 times, but.
• 21:54
  And untouched to like there was nobody laid a finger on him on that play.
• 21:59
  Set the tone right from the beginning is super, super awesome.
• 22:05
  And Lamar didn't have to do
• 22:08
  a mate like Superman things.
• 22:10
  He didn't have to put on the cape at all. Just leverage, leverage.
• 22:13
  Derek Henry leverage that running game.
• 22:16
  I feel like they figured out the best way to line up
• 22:20
  to utilize both Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson. Yeah.
• 22:23
  And I think the rest of the league needs to be worried about.
• 22:26
  Which was the problem that you mentioned before. Yep. Absolutely.
• 22:29
  And they weren't they weren't running Derek Henry properly because they
• 22:32
  they just couldn't they didn't have the alignment.
• 22:34
  Lamar Lamar is not used to being under center.
• 22:37
  He prefers being a shotgun.
• 22:40
  So they predominantly have shortened it into a pistol to at least
• 22:44
  still give Derek Henry a little bit of like a head start.
• 22:48
  Yeah. A step. Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:50
  But they are. Yeah. But they are some rhythm. AP style.
• 22:54
  But shout out to Lamar for spending more time under center
• 22:57
  that over the last couple of weeks, because you're seeing a lot of Patrick
• 23:01
  Card like motion in their fullback motion in
• 23:05
  to do a full eye or power eye.
• 23:08
  I love it. And then just I love fullback.
• 23:10
  Yeah. In general. Yeah. Yes.
• 23:12
  And just the the mountain of meat that those two
• 23:16
  that's like 600 pounds a man.
• 23:18
  Yeah. Hey, that's a great way to put it.
• 23:21
  Mountain of meat.
• 23:22
  Five ninety of it is muscle as well. Yeah.
• 23:25
  Oh, yeah. For the child right now.
• 23:28
  That's right. Meats.
• 23:30
  What? No, what a what a great showing from the Ravens.
• 23:34
  I mean, it's it says something when like you said,
• 23:37
  when Lamar doesn't have to put on the cape, 18 attempts
• 23:40
  and then only what was a six rush of six carries. Yeah.
• 23:43
  Yeah. That's finally he's not having to be the guy, the only guy to do something.
• 23:49
  And that's got to be he looked way more comfortable this week.
• 23:52
  I mean, yes, it's comfortable when you get up early and start playing with that lead.
• 23:55
  You know, but he did look way more comfortable in the offensive.
• 23:59
  And they had a lot more chunk plays, too.
• 24:02
  There were they got they found themselves in a lot of third and longs.
• 24:06
  And I thought it was like, how are we going to get out of this
• 24:08
  or how are we going to keep the drive alive?
• 24:10
  And they kept making them.
• 24:11
  I mean, he had one to to likely one to Nelson Aguilar.
• 24:15
  Just kept popping off of often.
• 24:19
  Yeah. Nelson had the one for 12 yards.
• 24:21
  Bayman had one for 23, likely had one for 26.
• 24:24
  Those are those third down conversion. Yeah.
• 24:26
  And it's just like drop the touchdown, too.
• 24:28
  Yeah. We don't talk about that.
• 24:29
  You know, I just want him to be good.
• 24:31
  I know. Trust me.
• 24:33
  Trust me. He did get, you know, interfered.
• 24:36
  Yeah. He still I mean, that's NFL player makes that for sure.
• 24:39
  And so my other.
• 24:41
  So the other concern with the offensive line was my thought was like
• 24:45
  I was concerned about Follale.
• 24:47
  He's he's in play better.
• 24:49
  He's he's improving, which is after week one.
• 24:51
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 24:52
  So that's a that's a good sign that they're meshing and figuring all of that out.
• 24:57
  So since your AFC, Mike,
• 25:00
  what is your thoughts of obviously Colts are AFC championship bound?
• 25:03
  So what what do you what do you think?
• 25:07
  What do you think of this?
• 25:08
  I mean, this is a heavyweight matchup in the AFC, I would say,
• 25:11
  for the last few years.
• 25:13
  You know, she sprinkles the chiefs in there, too.
• 25:15
  Between these three, you know, that's kind of.
• 25:18
  Yeah.
• 25:18
  But I'm in Cincinnati the last, yeah, like 34 years.
• 25:21
  It's been those four at the top.
• 25:23
  Obviously, Cincinnati is struggling again, but that's where the Colts slide in.
• 25:26
  Yeah, I think right now it's I think these are the top two teams in the AFC.
• 25:31
  No hand. No questions about it.
• 25:33
  I don't agree. I am aware of that fact.
• 25:37
  The chiefs. Yeah, I mean, the chiefs have looked boring.
• 25:41
  They've looked their offense has been just squeaking.
• 25:44
  Yeah, they're just squeaking by.
• 25:46
  Nobody beats the math.
• 25:47
  You know, one score games are 50 50 and they're 4 and 0 in one score games this year.
• 25:51
  So that's not going to hold up.
• 25:54
  And which we saw with the Vikings a number of years ago, not again to bring them up.
• 25:57
  But they were what their first eight games were.
• 25:59
  Yeah, I think they ended up going what?
• 26:01
  Six and two or whatever.
• 26:03
  It was it was good. Good at first.
• 26:05
  But I think they want like nine and one that year and like one score games.
• 26:08
  It was it was crazy.
• 26:09
  So, yeah, it can hold out for a season, but it's going to show up in the playoffs.
• 26:12
  At some point, you got to dominate. Correct.
• 26:14
  You're not going to they have the lowest lowest
• 26:17
  point differential of a four and a team in like 40 years or something.
• 26:20
  So really? Yeah. Plus 20.
• 26:22
  I mean, that's five points per game.
• 26:24
  You know, point differential brings in, you know, if you've got a loss in there,
• 26:28
  there's teams with losses that have higher point
• 26:30
  differentials, which means they're winning their games by a lot more.
• 26:32
  So, yeah, I mean, the Ravens looked absolutely scary in this game.
• 26:38
  If Derek Henry is, I mean, you can scale it back, you know, give him 15 to 20
• 26:43
  instead of 20 to 25 carries a game.
• 26:45
  Just kind of keep him a little season, keep him a little fresher for the end.
• 26:48
  Obviously, they were 0 and 2, so they needed to do what they needed to do
• 26:52
  to get get the wins here.
• 26:53
  But yes, scale him back to 15 to 20.
• 26:56
  They've got eight guys who caught a pass like.
• 27:00
  They're going to be scary. The Bills are going to be scary.
• 27:02
  This obviously didn't go well for them, but the Bills can do the same.
• 27:05
  They can regroup. Correct. Yeah.
• 27:07
  I mean, you called it last week.
• 27:08
  You said, yeah, Ravens are going to win this one.
• 27:11
  The Bills are going to come down for a couple of games.
• 27:14
  And so, yeah, I think it's going to be these two teams in the in the AFC this year.
• 27:18
  Yeah, no, I agree 100 percent.
• 27:20
  I think it'll be fun to watch. And then the Chiefs will sneak Patrick Mahone.
• 27:23
  I mean, the playoffs. Yeah, that's what Patrick and Travis are still out there.
• 27:26
  They're not dead.
• 27:27
  I'm not saying that they're out of it, but they're they're a distant third to me.
• 27:31
  For sure. No, not to Rob.
• 27:33
  Anyway, let's move right along into our final game.
• 27:37
  The Seahawks at Detroit playing the Motor Kitties.
• 27:43
  Again, three of us caught almost the whole second half together.
• 27:48
  So why don't I just start with you, Jake, since Rob and I talk all the time.
• 27:52
  Yeah. For the next however many weeks in a row.
• 27:55
  All the way to the Super Bowl, baby. Yeah.
• 27:57
  I guess my first question is, how real do the Lions look to you?
• 28:02
  Is there any concerns with how the game went last night?
• 28:04
  It started getting close.
• 28:05
  But, you know, the score doesn't really tell that whole story, I would say. Right.
• 28:09
  So what what I had brought up or what we were talking about
• 28:14
  last night was the Lions were scoring quickly.
• 28:17
  So their time of possession was at least lower.
• 28:21
  And the Seahawks are taking advantage of that by continuing to play the game
• 28:24
  that they stay in the game.
• 28:25
  Yep. Run Kenneth Walker to essentially to hell and back.
• 28:29
  And that's what they did.
• 28:30
  They rammed Kenneth Walker down their throats, tired out that defense.
• 28:35
  So there's a there's a blueprint for how to attack the Lions
• 28:39
  and try to get those W's.
• 28:41
  But the Lions, like their offensive coordinator, just like pulling
• 28:46
  trick plays the old Ben Johnson.
• 28:49
  Yeah. The St.
• 28:51
  Brown pass over to Jared Goff.
• 28:53
  Nobody had that across the field.
• 28:55
  Yeah. Nobody had that on their bingo card.
• 28:57
  No. So I remember not horrible coverage on it either. I know.
• 29:01
  It was it was a play quarterback in college.
• 29:03
  Yeah. Beautiful.
• 29:04
  It's a beautiful catch.
• 29:05
  High school. I think it's high school.
• 29:07
  That sounds right.
• 29:09
  Just because you brought it up.
• 29:10
  And I'm sure we've all seen this day across the many platforms
• 29:13
  and social media and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 29:15
  Jared Goff, one receiving touchdown.
• 29:17
  That's more than Travis Kelsey.
• 29:19
  Mark Andrews, Sam Laporta, Brandon Iuke, Jayden Waddle.
• 29:26
  So that's I just thought it was funny. Absolutely.
• 29:29
  Yeah. I mean, he's got that.
• 29:31
  And 18 for 18 most most completions without a incompletion in the NFL game,
• 29:37
  which is insane. Yeah.
• 29:39
  Perfect game. Perfect game for Jared Goff.
• 29:41
  And I'm not a Jared Goff hater by any means.
• 29:44
  He's he's done ever since he's got to the Lions.
• 29:46
  He's pretty much done enough to get them into the playoffs.
• 29:49
  Yeah. That first year was kind of a growth year.
• 29:50
  I think they only won six games his first season.
• 29:53
  It's either six or eight.
• 29:53
  And then it was like, yeah, to the next year.
• 29:55
  And then the next year they hit 10 and now they're in the playoffs.
• 29:57
  And for real at that.
• 30:00
  Well, having a running game, you have Gibbs in Montgomery.
• 30:02
  It's a lot easier to play football.
• 30:05
  You know, Montgomery is ridiculous.
• 30:07
  I mean, Gibbs was ridiculous, too.
• 30:08
  I mean, that's a two headed monster.
• 30:10
  I might be the best running back combo in the league right now.
• 30:13
  Laportis kind of surprised me that he doesn't have a touchdown yet this year.
• 30:16
  Correct. You know, I would agree with you.
• 30:18
  But you know what? I'm going to give it off to the Seahawks.
• 30:20
  They played and they stuck around that game, you know, like they're three and all.
• 30:24
  I don't feel like I was a fake three and all.
• 30:27
  Like, I feel like they're pretty solid team.
• 30:30
  You know, I don't think I mean, I could see him 10 and seven,
• 30:33
  you know, at the end of the year in the playoffs.
• 30:35
  They win in the NFC West at this point.
• 30:37
  I think it's pretty.
• 30:39
  But is it are they on their hands in the ring?
• 30:41
  I think they're the favorites right now to win the NFC West with the lead that they have.
• 30:47
  I think that they they've got a legit chance at it.
• 30:50
  I think they needed to do more of the two headed monster that Detroit did and and use Charbonne.
• 30:55
  Oh, yes. I mean, you can't end Charbonne.
• 30:58
  He just got off of two games of dominating with Walker out like he has a fantasy.
• 31:03
  But I do have him. I already I support this decision.
• 31:08
  He's on my bench.
• 31:10
  But he only he only had two.
• 31:12
  Yeah. But I go away from the hot hand that you had.
• 31:16
  Right. Just to go back to the starter.
• 31:18
  I'm not saying don't run Kenneth.
• 31:19
  Like, obviously, you want to get him involved.
• 31:22
  And he only had 12 carries.
• 31:24
  Yeah. You know, they only had four.
• 31:25
  Yeah. 14 between the running backs with five for Gino.
• 31:28
  So just needed.
• 31:30
  I mean, obviously, they were down, but the whole.
• 31:32
  And we mentioned this every week.
• 31:33
  I'm sure it gets repetitive like, oh, this team should run and this team should pass.
• 31:37
  But obviously, there's game situations, right?
• 31:39
  Like this game, they're playing behind most of the game.
• 31:41
  So that's why Gino Smith threw the ball 56.
• 31:44
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 31:45
  So there's there's that stuff that's going to happen.
• 31:47
  But I agree. 100 percent run Charbonne.
• 31:49
  Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why.
• 31:51
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 31:52
  Shouldn't be a 12 to split if you even if you've only got 14 carries.
• 31:56
  Like what Kenneth with the three tugs. Yeah.
• 31:59
  This can state there is represent.
• 32:01
  So I will say quick, I do think Detroit is the number one team in the NFC.
• 32:06
  I know I wasn't asked, but I like to throw that out there.
• 32:08
  No, that's interesting. That's curious.
• 32:10
  So I got I got Vikings in Detroit at the top of the NFC right now.
• 32:14
  But I would bet on the Lions if I if I really.
• 32:17
  Absolutely. Wow.
• 32:18
  I still have faith in the 49ers that they're going to flip it around.
• 32:22
  Yeah, I'm not. But I'm not totally out in San Francisco.
• 32:25
  No, I'm not. I'm not either.
• 32:26
  But as far as like a complete team dominance,
• 32:31
  other than the Vikes, I would say the Lions do look real good.
• 32:34
  Yeah, they look because nobody looks dominant.
• 32:36
  Now, the south, I mean, the Texans probably are.
• 32:39
  And then you got the Vikings Packers and then wait a minute.
• 32:42
  Texas are in the NFC.
• 32:43
  Not Texans are who's in the south.
• 32:45
  So the box box.
• 32:47
  Carolina. Are you talking about Carolina?
• 32:49
  Bugs, Falcon Saints.
• 32:51
  You know, yeah.
• 32:53
  Are you an Andy Dalton fan?
• 32:55
  Now I am.
• 32:59
  Just for fantasy reasons, that's about it.
• 33:01
  You're a fan of who? For fantasy reasons?
• 33:03
  Well, yeah, because I have the offense moves the ball now.
• 33:06
  Yeah, you know, so I mean, he has got to a flack of that right.
• 33:09
  Right. Oh, boy. So I go back.
• 33:12
  But with that, Lions winning 42, 29, moving to second place in the NFC
• 33:17
  north behind the Vikes, of course, at four and oh.
• 33:20
  So before we move on.
• 33:23
  Wait, that's right. I have it over here.
• 33:25
  So I forgot to update them.
• 33:26
  So Rob went perfect this week.
• 33:29
  Rob, five and our first our first clean slate of the season.
• 33:34
  First sweep, Rob, five and oh, which means he takes the one win
• 33:39
  lead over yours truly on the season.
• 33:42
  He is now 13 and seven.
• 33:43
  So congrats on the five and oh, I lost my mic.
• 33:46
  It spun over on it.
• 33:48
  Not even the experts go on five.
• 33:50
  Oh, you know, I was just, you know, sandbagging on the first couple of weeks.
• 33:53
  Now I'm actually going to put my full commitment.
• 33:56
  Now you knock the rust off and now you're good to go.
• 33:59
  Five and oh, every week, I guess.
• 34:01
  We'll see. Every week.
• 34:02
  We'll see. We'll see.
• 34:04
  This week, I went four and one.
• 34:05
  My one. Congratulations. Four and one is a solid number.
• 34:08
  You know what my L was? Picking the Seahawks to be different.
• 34:10
  What an idiot. But they still almost pulled it off.
• 34:13
  They again, they looked better than I even thought.
• 34:15
  I just was like, so that's why I'm down 12 and eight on the season.
• 34:20
  Jake, right next to me, went four and one as well.
• 34:23
  Yeah, there you go. Great week for you.
• 34:24
  Yeah, definitely needed the bounce back after that week to atrocity.
• 34:28
  Oh, that brings you back to 500 now. It does.
• 34:30
  He's 10 and 10. Jake's 10 and 10. That's right.
• 34:33
  Nice. Jake's 10 and 10.
• 34:35
  Mike, you went three and two last week. Respectable.
• 34:38
  Was that bad? You're on the right side of the five games.
• 34:42
  Yeah. You know, you could have been two and three, but you're three and two.
• 34:44
  I could have been. You know what I mean?
• 34:46
  So on the season so far, Mike is three and two because he just started with us last week.
• 34:49
  So we just started getting his picks in.
• 34:52
  Tyler, our guest from last week, also went three and two.
• 34:55
  So he's also three and two on the season.
• 34:57
  Congratulations, Tyler. Matt, you guys saw him earlier this season,
• 35:01
  also went three and two this week.
• 35:03
  So Matt is now nine and six on the season. Fire up.
• 35:06
  Fire up. Or horns up.
• 35:08
  Horns up.
• 35:10
  Ben joined us, I think, two weeks ago. Our other Packer fan.
• 35:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:15
  Went two and three this week. So he is four and six on the season.
• 35:19
  Maybe I'll get win percentage in there for us at this point next week.
• 35:22
  So for now, everybody can just praise Rob for his five and oh week and leading on the season.
• 35:27
  Thank you. Congrats.
• 35:29
  With that, let's head right into our tent talk.
• 35:39
  And let's start off our tent talk with some what do you call it?
• 35:44
  And friendly fire, friendly fire. Patrick Mahomes destroying.
• 35:50
  Well, actually, potentially destroying Rice's ACL should be done for the season.
• 35:56
  Do they confirm that today at all? Do you know?
• 35:58
  Because they were like, oh, it might not be as bad as it seems.
• 36:01
  But I think it's like 95 percent at this point. Yeah.
• 36:03
  All right. So Rice probably done for the season.
• 36:07
  Michael Parsons for the Cowboys could also miss his first game of his career, I believe.
• 36:13
  From a high ankle sprain. So that's not good.
• 36:17
  Christian Watson out potentially with an ankle.
• 36:21
  Fred Warner, linebacker for the 49ers is day to day with an ankle.
• 36:26
  Alan Camaro running back for the Saints. Broken ribs? Question mark.
• 36:30
  May have played through them on Sunday so we can discuss that in a second.
• 36:35
  And then I just have A.R. written down.
• 36:38
  I guess I'll take that one.
• 36:40
  Anthony Richardson, you know, shoulder right? Or no, it was hip.
• 36:43
  Hip and. Hip and ribs, I think they said.
• 36:48
  Hip and ribs. Yeah. A combo.
• 36:50
  Hip and ribs, hip and ribs.
• 36:51
  Joe Mixon still sidelined. Got to have him back.
• 36:54
  Demarcus Lawrence also for the Cowboys should have grouped him with Micah.
• 36:57
  I forgot he is now on I.R. for his foot.
• 37:00
  So we will miss Demarcus Lawrence for at least four games.
• 37:04
  Will Levist undergo an MRI on his shoulder.
• 37:07
  But at the moment, everything's pointing that he will start this weekend.
• 37:12
  Anything we got to touch on injury wise.
• 37:15
  I mean, jumps out and bites you.
• 37:17
  It's just the 49ers.
• 37:19
  Oh yeah, McCaffrey also was found with tendonitis in both of his Achilles.
• 37:25
  Yeah, you know, with the timeline.
• 37:28
  Who knows? I don't know.
• 37:29
  TBD. Yeah.
• 37:31
  Tendonitis could last all season.
• 37:33
  You see quarterbacks getting in their elbows and stuff.
• 37:35
  So I don't know.
• 37:37
  I mean, that kind of sticks out to me.
• 37:39
  Micah Parsons being hurt with that Dallas defense.
• 37:42
  And you're losing Demarcus Lawrence.
• 37:43
  Yeah, and Lawrence. Great.
• 37:45
  And then other than Rice with the Chiefs.
• 37:49
  A Chiefs offense that can't really lose any more pieces.
• 37:52
  True. So unless they're trading for somebody else.
• 37:57
  I mean, great Devonte Adams target just to kind of pre-lead into the news.
• 38:01
  Yeah, yeah. Let's go right into the news really quick.
• 38:04
  Devonte Adams, I guess, officially requesting to be traded today.
• 38:10
  He has not heard, word on the street is he has not heard from head coach Antonio Pierce at all about anything.
• 38:16
  So Pierce allegedly liked some posts.
• 38:19
  I don't know if it was on X or Facebook or whatever, but.
• 38:22
  Over thinking.
• 38:23
  Something about Devonte Adams could be traded and Pierce liked it.
• 38:26
  And now that's been removed. So who knows?
• 38:29
  Drama.
• 38:31
  Devonte Adams to the Chiefs though? That'd be interesting.
• 38:33
  I mean, I think it makes sense for everybody.
• 38:35
  Devonte Adams is not happy there.
• 38:38
  He wants to go. Raiders got an asset they can get something back for.
• 38:42
  Get traded to a 4-0 team.
• 38:43
  Do the Chiefs have the assets to trade the Raiders?
• 38:46
  You know, I don't know that.
• 38:47
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:48
  I mean, you got to trade some futures at this point if you're the Chiefs.
• 38:51
  You're going for the three-peat, which has never been done.
• 38:54
  So I would say everything's on the table for them.
• 38:57
  And if you're 4-0 as the third best AFC team, according to Mike in the AFC.
• 39:02
  You need some help.
• 39:04
  You need some help that's other than Xavier Worthy, who's coming on to be potentially their next, you know, Tyreek for them.
• 39:10
  Just a guy who can run down the field blazing fast and just hook it.
• 39:14
  They lost Marquise Brown early. That was who they got for their pick up.
• 39:19
  Hollywood Brown, yep. They lost their pick up already.
• 39:22
  Now losing Rashid Rice, like they have to go make a move.
• 39:25
  Is Brown done for the season?
• 39:26
  Yeah, he's off.
• 39:27
  That's what I thought.
• 39:28
  Yeah, so again, making another case that they should actually realistically look at the bottom.
• 39:33
  See, but Adams, I think it's going to be a second round.
• 39:37
  I don't think you're going to get a first round out of a 32 year old receiver with that big of a contract to boot.
• 39:43
  I know.
• 39:45
  And I don't know what the Chiefs current salary cap looks like, whether they have the make it happen.
• 39:51
  They figure out a way to make it.
• 39:54
  The NFL script writers will make sure that happens.
• 39:59
  I left my tin foil at home.
• 40:01
  I know, but either way. But yeah, I mean, I could see that.
• 40:04
  I just feel like the Raiders offense is not what Adams excels in for some reason.
• 40:10
  He hasn't been good there.
• 40:11
  So I think it's time for them to part ways.
• 40:15
  But is the Jets out of the question with that?
• 40:18
  No, as long as Aaron Rodgers is in the league wherever he's playing for me, it's not out of the question
• 40:23
  because you know what you're going to get out of that combination, or at least what you're going to get on paper out of that combination.
• 40:29
  They're both aging, right?
• 40:30
  But Nathaniel Hackett is the offensive coordinator.
• 40:32
  Devontae Adams already knows the system.
• 40:35
  So he's played week one really in all three fourths of the playbook.
• 40:40
  Yeah. And I think the Raiders would be out of their minds to trade Devontae Adams in division.
• 40:46
  And you're.
• 40:47
  Oh, true.
• 40:48
  And you're only you're only I mean, we've already talked about the Chiefs 4-0, sure, but you're only two games.
• 40:53
  They're two and two, right?
• 40:54
  The Raiders. Yeah.
• 40:55
  So you're only two games out of the division lead and the team leading the division.
• 41:00
  Yeah, is undefeated. But we've already talked about there.
• 41:02
  Are they for real at 4-0?
• 41:04
  So, I mean, you could still make a run.
• 41:06
  I don't think you're going to win the division over the Chiefs this year.
• 41:09
  But I don't know. That's a tough call.
• 41:12
  But Devontae is going to not give you.
• 41:14
  Right. If you're not getting 100 percent out of Devontae,
• 41:17
  it's better to get the assets.
• 41:19
  You're probably not a Super Bowl team this year with where they're at.
• 41:23
  I mean, they do have a signature win over the Ravens.
• 41:25
  Yeah, unfortunately.
• 41:26
  Yeah, I don't I don't know how that happened, but they have it.
• 41:29
  So it counts. So they could be thinking, you know, maybe get quicker assets, you know, win now assets back.
• 41:37
  But I think you trade for for future assets.
• 41:40
  And I try to win that.
• 41:42
  Sure. We are now on the Devontae Adams watch.
• 41:45
  So we will we will keep an eye on that on week to week trade deadline is November 9th, I believe it is.
• 41:52
  So we'll just see if moves happen before that.
• 41:55
  I believe this is first or second year where they moved it back a week now.
• 41:59
  So just a little bit more time to get some trading.
• 42:01
  Which I yeah, I agree with that.
• 42:03
  Yeah, I think it should be like week six.
• 42:05
  Yeah, it was it was crazy early.
• 42:07
  It needs to be even a little bit further back, in my opinion right now.
• 42:11
  But I'm glad they moved it back.
• 42:13
  So we'll get a last minute Devontae Adams.
• 42:15
  True. But I want it too late where he becomes baseball right before playoffs.
• 42:19
  You know, they're like, oh, well, buy this guy, buy this guy, buy this guy for the run.
• 42:24
  Yeah. Yeah. Hockey does the same thing.
• 42:26
  The hard salary cap.
• 42:27
  I like it a little bit more because it makes it a little harder to make those parents.
• 42:30
  But yeah, for sure.
• 42:32
  Moving right along here, Von Miller suspended four games for the domestic incident from the last November.
• 42:38
  So he is now suspended for them four games.
• 42:42
  He only had like five tackles on this season, but he did have three sacks.
• 42:45
  So it's still a loss on that defense nonetheless from, you know, when you're losing production from a Hall of Fame player.
• 42:52
  True. Yeah. You know, but they can breastfell for a month, you know, but you know, they'll be they'll be they'll be.
• 42:58
  Dolphins to start Tyler Huntley at quarterback for week five.
• 43:02
  I think that's where I move personally.
• 43:04
  I don't think they have too many other options at the moment.
• 43:07
  No, I don't know why anybody hasn't started calling Ryan Tannehill.
• 43:10
  And they and we Tyler mentioned that last week that somebody should pick up Tannehill.
• 43:15
  But I think that was my rant.
• 43:17
  Week one is what's wrong with week one or week two.
• 43:20
  What's like what's wrong with these GMs not picking up a seasoned veteran quarterback as their backup?
• 43:24
  And you're seeing it work for some of these teams.
• 43:26
  Yeah. Bucks with Baker.
• 43:27
  Yes, that's a different situation. Sam Darnold.
• 43:29
  It's Sam Darnold. Gino Smith.
• 43:31
  You know, obviously, you know, we've seen them bounce back.
• 43:35
  Joe Flacco. Yeah, you might have Flacco for two, three weeks.
• 43:39
  So the Dolphins must believe that two is coming back.
• 43:42
  Yeah. Sooner rather than later.
• 43:44
  You know, like I'm getting that kind of vibe out of them.
• 43:46
  Or at least Skyler Thompson could be back next week, you know.
• 43:48
  Otherwise, they would have to win out for if they're like Tannehill, you know, two is done for the year.
• 43:53
  They're definitely I think Tannehill or somebody is coming up in that offense.
• 43:58
  They're just out on them for some reason.
• 44:00
  That's just the only reason why I feel like they haven't picked him up.
• 44:02
  There's something. And he was there before.
• 44:04
  I don't know. Sure.
• 44:05
  But I mean, I don't know if the fans wanted him.
• 44:08
  Moving on. Nick Chubb returning to practice this week.
• 44:11
  That's awesome for him. We haven't seen him since October 2023.
• 44:16
  So that'll be good to see him.
• 44:19
  Matt Stafford moves to 10th all time in career passing yards.
• 44:23
  That's to no surprise.
• 44:24
  I mean, I know at least for us at MCNorth for sure.
• 44:27
  But I mean, the dude's just just a G.
• 44:30
  He's been solid for a long time.
• 44:32
  He's been good for a while and always got the short end of the stick there in Detroit.
• 44:36
  I'm glad he was able to get his Super Bowl, but moves to 10th all time.
• 44:40
  Last thing I wanted to mention is some of the NFL owners have helped with that hurricane relief down south there.
• 44:47
  So Arthur Blank of the Falcons donated two mil.
• 44:50
  The Tepper Foundation, David Tepper's two time bonehead, bonehead of the year last year.
• 44:56
  They donated three million. Buying his way off that list.
• 44:59
  Yeah, he's going to get he tunes in.
• 45:01
  That's why he tunes in.
• 45:04
  The Texans also pledged a million dollars to support.
• 45:08
  And then the Glacier family owners of the Tampa Bay Bucks have pledged a million dollars as well to support.
• 45:13
  So just a couple of NFL teams helping out.
• 45:15
  You love to see it.
• 45:16
  They bring in a lot of dough and a lot of people get upset like, oh, only a million.
• 45:21
  They could have gave two million. Well, they could have gave nothing.
• 45:24
  You know, that's my argument always for like people that come at rich people all the time.
• 45:28
  Don't get me wrong, but I love that money. Of course.
• 45:30
  Am I rich? No.
• 45:32
  But rich, rich, rich. They could give nothing.
• 45:34
  So if they're giving something like at least it's, you know, at least you're trying to help out.
• 45:38
  You know what I mean? But that's just my opinion. I agree.
• 45:41
  I'm with you. All right. All right.
• 45:43
  So with that, let's move right into bonehead move of the week.
• 45:53
  And of course, we got bonehead move of the week.
• 45:56
  Jake's trying to cheat on my paper here.
• 45:59
  I'm honorable mention for bonehead.
• 46:01
  We just had a slight delay while I was sitting here like this, trying to remember what what the bonehead was.
• 46:07
  So I'm honorable mention honorable mention of the year.
• 46:10
  So I'll have the ceremony after the show.
• 46:12
  Yep. Yep. Not recorded. Not recorded.
• 46:17
  Anyway, let's move on. Right.
• 46:19
  So bonehead move of the week. Let's hear it.
• 46:22
  The Lions won the game by a lot. Actually, what was it?
• 46:25
  What would it 42, 29 final score? Yeah.
• 46:28
  Perfect game from Jared Goff set a record.
• 46:31
  Dan Campbell does not give Jared Goff a game ball.
• 46:34
  What? Yeah. Are you kidding me?
• 46:37
  Like, is it a small thing? Yes. You know, first world problems. Right.
• 46:40
  But like, whoa, you know, setting a record.
• 46:43
  Perfect game doesn't get a game ball.
• 46:45
  And I think Dan Campbell came out today or something and said something about, yeah, I totally regret it or some something like that.
• 46:51
  But just I couldn't believe that. And like Dan, you got him then.
• 46:55
  I don't know. Does it matter at that point?
• 46:59
  Maybe doesn't give game balls. 18 for 18 and a receiving touchdown doesn't get you the game ball.
• 47:05
  You'll never get one. You're never going to get one.
• 47:07
  Here's your game ball. We're going to give you this. Here you go.
• 47:10
  It does have a Viking logo on it. No, you cannot scratch it off.
• 47:14
  But Dan Campbell will probably never be on bonehead move of the week again, as far as I know.
• 47:19
  Although, although he likes to go for it. The go for two thing.
• 47:24
  Yeah, we talked about that. That was interesting.
• 47:27
  Yeah, that was interesting. Kind of given the sea chickens and seahawks.
• 47:30
  Sorry. Another chance to get back into the game. So that is interesting.
• 47:35
  I do real quick have an honorable mention bonehead move of the week.
• 47:39
  I thought it was wild in your Colts game when A.R. went down. Yes.
• 47:43
  You know, you ask a player, right? Are you good to go? For sure.
• 47:46
  I'm good to go. You know, they put him back in. But he just went down and sure.
• 47:51
  He goes back in the game. So to test out his hip, you decide to run him immediately.
• 47:55
  A quarterback sweep left. Way to go. That seems wild.
• 47:59
  And he's backing it up to everything. News conference wise, he backs up that decision 100 percent.
• 48:06
  It's really hard to. And again, if A.R. tells you, yeah, I'm good to go for sure, you're going to take his opinion.
• 48:11
  I get it. Right. Yeah. But even that, I'm going to let him maybe roll out or something, roll out past just to see how he's running on it.
• 48:19
  And then, you know, it wasn't always that he can throw it away.
• 48:22
  No, I don't buy that. You should be you should be calling like a screen or a bubble pass.
• 48:29
  I'm just get it out of his hand and back into the game, get him back into the rhythm, see how he looks.
• 48:34
  Exactly. I agree. But his best abilities is availability at that point.
• 48:38
  Tyler Lockett was a great example of that. They talked about that on the game last night.
• 48:42
  No. About how he avoids hits and they showed clips of how he just goes down, goes down, goes down, never gets hit.
• 48:47
  But he's always available to play. That is so I think A.R. needs to watch some film.
• 48:52
  No doubt. No doubt. No doubt. With that, that wraps our bonehead move of the week. Bonehead.
• 49:09
  And like always, we got our five game slate that we're going to preview.
• 49:14
  And again, like always, we got to start with the Vikings, the Jets.
• 49:20
  At oh, well, we got the awesome graphic up right now, but the Jets traveling to the Vikings, but not really.
• 49:26
  It's going to be in London, London.
• 49:28
  Actually, one of my owners is going to be there for my job in Wembley.
• 49:33
  Well, they didn't invite you. I don't know. I think they changed up the location.
• 49:38
  I think they're trying to move it around the UK. I could be wrong, but it is.
• 49:42
  We'll just say UK. I can't remember if it's in London or not.
• 49:44
  They have had multiple locations already. So, yeah, I feel like they're moving it around.
• 49:49
  I can't remember. I know. Just pay attention to the graphic as it spins around the ticker.
• 49:53
  I'm pretty sure it says whatever. There's only 16 games. It'll only take another 12 minutes to get there.
• 49:59
  Stay tuned. But anyway, Jets at Vikings.
• 50:04
  Did I start with you last week for the Vikes? I feel like you did.
• 50:07
  Let's hear what you think. Well, the Vikes are going to win. Tell me why. Shocker.
• 50:11
  Because the Jets look off right now. Now, what could play into the Jets' favor is both teams have to travel.
• 50:17
  They will have to deal with that. But the Jets just look off right now.
• 50:21
  I mean, offensively and defensively for sure. Not as good as we would have expected them to be.
• 50:27
  And the Vikings are rolling. Yes, they gave up kind of that fourth quarter.
• 50:31
  They completely lost against the Packers. But I'm feeling pretty good about the Vikes chances this week.
• 50:37
  I do not think this is the week that they take an L. I will probably pick against the Vikes soon, but it just can't be this week.
• 50:43
  It just can't be this week. Vikes in London. I agree with you.
• 50:47
  I think the Vikes are still going to win the game, but I'm not going off last week's game of the Jets performance in a sloppy conditions in Denver.
• 50:54
  Fair enough. You know, so and their defense is still, you know, just going off the rest of the season.
• 51:01
  Well, yeah, I mean, I don't that's not how I judge a team is one game and then I go, oh, yeah, they played horrible.
• 51:07
  So they must be a horrible team. But they've been horrible all year. Well, were they two and two horrible to horrible to into.
• 51:14
  But yeah, I mean, I think, though, I think it's going to be a closer game.
• 51:19
  I feel like defensively they have a few players that they can cause some issues on for us.
• 51:25
  And then offensively against Aaron Rodgers, I mean, some weeks, yeah, they're going to be ugly.
• 51:32
  I mean, I've even saw that as a Vikings first Packard games, but I've also saw games where he starts dropping dimes on you consistently.
• 51:39
  And you're like, oh, where does this come from? So I think the Vikings are going to win like twenty three seventeen ish.
• 51:46
  But I think it's going to be a competitive game. One score game, though, for you. Yeah, I think it's one score game score game.
• 51:51
  One score game. Mike, who you got? Yeah, I'm going to take the Vikings in London here.
• 51:57
  Yeah, you are. Jets looked not good last week. Seven seven false start penalties on that old line.
• 52:05
  The hard count that Rodgers is known for is getting his own team more than it's getting getting the other team right now.
• 52:11
  So something just seems that was not a wire game, I think, because they didn't have any other the rest of the weeks.
• 52:18
  Yeah, that could be. I don't know. I just called it an anomaly today on the Pat McAvoy.
• 52:22
  Yeah. Yeah, he was talking about it.
• 52:24
  He's he's calling out the the accountability of the offensive line that coaches because people are trying to come at him for the cadence.
• 52:33
  I'm like, yeah, I've used the same cadence my whole career.
• 52:36
  I stole it from the Hall of Famer in front of me.
• 52:39
  You know, he literally said, you know, so so yeah, there's something going on that is they just don't look right.
• 52:46
  Yeah, I think that would be a playoff game. Yeah.
• 52:48
  Yeah, the I mean, the AFC is a massive two and two teams.
• 52:52
  Who's who knows what's going to come out of there? But yeah, I think the Vikings will win this one.
• 52:55
  I mean, they got JJ and in a way game like that traveling, take the best player likes by 50, according to Mike.
• 53:04
  All right. At least 50.
• 53:07
  You can come over to my house. I'll actually be at the Jacksonville Colts game this week.
• 53:13
  Oh, yeah. Nice.
• 53:16
  You ready for this on jets? No Vikings.
• 53:21
  No. Yeah. Vikings defense against legit.
• 53:26
  New York hasn't been able to run the ball very well.
• 53:28
  Like, Breeze Hall has been nonexistent the last couple of weeks.
• 53:32
  And the Vikings defense will continue to do that.
• 53:37
  And Aaron Rodgers only has Garrett Wilson to throw to right now.
• 53:41
  I agree that I think that is a issue.
• 53:44
  So it's going to be super easy to just keep him doubled and then be like, hey, everybody else try and try and beat us.
• 53:50
  So fair enough. Yep.
• 53:52
  Vikes. That's a sweep of the Vikes. Sounds good to me.
• 53:56
  I like it. Oh, here we go. No, Rob goes five and odds.
• 53:59
  Keep the train going.
• 54:03
  Keeping with traditional banner at the boys Packers traveling to the L.A. Rams.
• 54:08
  Half Packer fan. I'm going to start with you.
• 54:11
  Does Jordan Love and company get back on track?
• 54:14
  Yes. Packers over Rams.
• 54:17
  Rams defense is average at best.
• 54:21
  A week of rest will continue to at least love is going to continue to get healthier as long as he stops taking additional hits.
• 54:29
  And the Rams don't have anybody to throw to.
• 54:32
  I know, but they still stay in the game.
• 54:35
  Keep going. Keep going.
• 54:38
  Just like so the if Jair Alexander's back, I I have no I have no reason to think that.
• 54:48
  Or excuse me, Sam.
• 54:50
  That man. Yeah, I haven't asked.
• 54:54
  After is going to continue to struggle, which breaks my heart because he's one of my starting fantasy quarterbacks.
• 54:59
  But he's starting this week to say it's either him or Gardner mentioned.
• 55:04
  So there's that for you. I just can't shoot is, man.
• 55:07
  You got to go for it.
• 55:09
  Yeah, of course. I'm just saying I got I got a jar does not allow.
• 55:14
  Yeah. Passing yards does not.
• 55:17
  Mike Packers Rams. I am also going to take the Packers.
• 55:21
  Yeah, the Rams just do not look good like Jair Alexander.
• 55:26
  They have no receiver. So whoever he's on is getting nothing.
• 55:31
  The Packers, I think, are going to run it a lot more consistently this week.
• 55:34
  I know obviously score played a big part in the last game, but they got to get Jacobs on track.
• 55:39
  And yeah, he's love isn't going against Flores this week, so he should have a little bit more time.
• 55:45
  Sean McVeigh is a good offensive coach, but that's not going to help slow down Jordan.
• 55:49
  Oh, good. Oh, good. Another Packer pick.
• 55:52
  Rob, I'm going wild here. I'm going Rams, baby. Going Rams.
• 55:57
  I have this odd feeling of this game. I'm shooting the moon here if you're playing hearts.
• 56:03
  But yeah, I think it's that crazy of a pick. I mean, they got Sean McVeigh.
• 56:07
  It is. But I don't know what it is. I just have this vibe this week.
• 56:11
  I know I wish I could say this home field advantage because they're playing in L.A.
• 56:15
  But I don't feel like any game in L.A. is a home to field advantage at this point.
• 56:19
  But I just have this feeling that I think the Packers are very high for this last Vikings game.
• 56:24
  They had a little letdown and then they're going to look at the Rams like, oh, this is a W and they're not show up.
• 56:30
  And then it's to keep the Rams in the game. The Rams are going to squeak it out.
• 56:33
  So you think the Packers overhyped themselves or they were over?
• 56:36
  Well, that was just a big game that, you know, it was a big competitive game that they're expected.
• 56:40
  Hey, this is a contending, you know, for later on the season type of game, almost a playoff style game.
• 56:47
  And then they lost it.
• 56:49
  And then when you see the Rams with, you know, on their calendar, they're like, ah, that's a dub.
• 56:55
  And then I think they're staying it. So Rams fans with you, buddy.
• 56:59
  That's tough. That's tough. I really want to agree with you, but I cannot.
• 57:03
  That's fair. Yeah, I think the Packers defense showed me something against the Vikings.
• 57:08
  They really stepped it up in that second half, really started coming after Darnold.
• 57:12
  But I mean, coverage wise, too, it was great.
• 57:16
  And like you said, you brought up that Stafford doesn't have anybody to throw to this week.
• 57:22
  I'm in love with the receiving core for the Packers other than Christian Watson.
• 57:27
  And I love their tight ends. And he's out, so you don't have to worry about it.
• 57:31
  So that's why they can win. But yeah, no, I have Packers all day.
• 57:36
  I think they get back on track here. I think they win by two scores plus.
• 57:41
  I mean, I feel like the Packers should win.
• 57:44
  I want to agree with you guys, but I feel like it's just going to be a game that's going to be weird.
• 57:47
  It's like my pick of the Seahawks. I had that weird feeling, too, like it could have been goofy.
• 57:51
  I ended up being slightly goofy, but I hear you. I hear you.
• 57:55
  Moving right along, we got Bills traveling to Houston.
• 57:59
  I mean, that's that's a big game. That's a big game.
• 58:02
  Two, three and one teams going at it.
• 58:08
  Mike. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be cheering for the Bills.
• 58:12
  That's for sure, as that'll help the Colts get back into this division race.
• 58:18
  I think the Texans are going to come out, CJ Stroud, and he's got so many receivers to throw to Tankdell,
• 58:26
  Nico Collins and I mean, Stefan Diggs being almost a third option out there is insane.
• 58:32
  Like he's probably their number two, but it's they've looked good all year.
• 58:38
  I think they're going to continue to look good. They got to get CJ on on track
• 58:42
  and get him in rhythm to have a chance to be a solid playoff team.
• 58:45
  And I think that's what they'll do against the Bills. Bills just got throttled.
• 58:49
  They were afraid to tackle. So I know they're going to come out and they're going to be wanting to play.
• 58:53
  But I think the Texans are so different from the Ravens that they got the home field advantage.
• 58:58
  I think that'll flip it. Yeah, I would say they are.
• 59:01
  I mean, that offense is really different compared to what the Ravens got going.
• 59:04
  Yeah. Do we still have for sure no Joe Mixon this week? Yeah.
• 59:08
  Yeah. Then is that I mean, I'll hop in and throw my pick out there right now just because I think Joe Mixon is the difference.
• 59:14
  I really want to go with the Bills because I think they got embarrassed this weekend and Joe Mixon not playing.
• 59:24
  If he does play, I want to say Texans. But right now I think he's not playing.
• 59:28
  So I'm going to go Bills and go Bills. So going Bills for I just I just see, you know,
• 59:33
  like the Henry running game against the Bills, you know, was the difference of that game.
• 59:39
  And Texas not having having one right now, having one.
• 59:42
  It will be the difference on the other side. So I think the Bills are in a come fired up after getting embarrassed this last weekend.
• 59:50
  For sure. Yeah, that's a fair point.
• 59:54
  I think the Bills are going to try and reestablish James Cook because they got away from them super early last week.
• 1:00:02
  They miss them. I don't think missing Joe Mixon is going to have as significant of an impact.
• 1:00:10
  And tell me why. Ain't nothing but a.
• 1:00:16
  Oh, he finished it. They still have Damien Pierce.
• 1:00:22
  So he's. Yeah, they've got they they've got the depth.
• 1:00:27
  So I'm not. They're not going to miss them.
• 1:00:32
  And I'm against the Vikings. They missed them.
• 1:00:35
  I think or you think the Vikings are better than the Bills.
• 1:00:39
  I know the Vikings are better than the Bills.
• 1:00:41
  So what I really think here is look at like both team the their schedules.
• 1:00:48
  They're both three and one. But are they really are they are they legit?
• 1:00:55
  They could both be pretenders. We're going to find out this week that they're both playoff teams in my.
• 1:01:00
  Yeah, but they're probably they could be bottom barrel playoff teams.
• 1:01:05
  I'll take that chip in a chair.
• 1:01:08
  So but I'm going to take Texans because CJ Stroud.
• 1:01:15
  OK, interesting. Let's hear it. Smelty.
• 1:01:18
  I'm I'm also going Texans.
• 1:01:20
  And the reason why is because I said last week that the Bills are going to lose to this is going to be their team.
• 1:01:24
  This is going to be there, too. And then they could go on a run, you know, backing up all your stuff.
• 1:01:30
  I like it. Bills got keeping receipts on.
• 1:01:33
  I know Bills Bills obviously got Texans this week and then they got in New York for the Jets game.
• 1:01:40
  At the moment, that's winnable.
• 1:01:41
  Then they play the Titans at home, travel to Seattle, which is always a tough place to play.
• 1:01:46
  But winnable, I think, for the Bills and then play Miami and then the Colts.
• 1:01:50
  I mean, a lot of these games, no offense, are winnable for for the Bills.
• 1:01:55
  So I think they're going to drop this one to the Texans and then start, you know, maybe go three and one the next four after that.
• 1:02:02
  You're already like two games ahead. I just have it all.
• 1:02:06
  Fascinating the entire Bills season.
• 1:02:10
  Every week we go one week further on the Bills season total.
• 1:02:14
  What about the game they're playing this week, Tyler?
• 1:02:17
  I do like that you backed up your pick from last week.
• 1:02:21
  But we'll see because if they now if the Bills win this week, it messes everything up.
• 1:02:25
  Now I look like now I look like a bonehead for two weeks in a row.
• 1:02:28
  You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  Here we go. Nope. Not writing that down.
• 1:02:32
  All right. Moving on. Moving on.
• 1:02:33
  We got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers traveling to Atlanta on Thursday night football.
• 1:02:40
  That's a toughie. That's a toughie. AFC South matchup.
• 1:02:43
  Right. I mean, NFC. Wow. I said AFC.
• 1:02:47
  We all know what you meant.
• 1:02:51
  Tyler, tell us what you think in Atlanta. I know I'm trying.
• 1:02:55
  Nothing's coming out. Oh, this one's tough for me.
• 1:02:57
  I think he's going to check this one.
• 1:03:00
  I'm going to pass. Rain check.
• 1:03:04
  Someone make a decision for me. You can pick Ty.
• 1:03:08
  I think. No, no, no. I tried that. I tried that.
• 1:03:13
  We shut that down.
• 1:03:16
  There's like two of them a year.
• 1:03:19
  I think I got to go Bucs. I really want to go Atlanta at home, especially because you're at Bucs.
• 1:03:24
  So you picked the Bucs to win the division.
• 1:03:26
  I did. But like Atlanta's showing me something, but they just haven't shown me quite enough yet
• 1:03:31
  that against like at least a better middle of the road team like the Bucs are, you know, that low tier playoff team.
• 1:03:37
  If you will. I just low tier.
• 1:03:41
  I don't think Atlanta quite has that offense put together yet.
• 1:03:45
  I think they're still trying to figure it out. The best way to use Kirk Cousins.
• 1:03:50
  He played well, but I just I don't know.
• 1:03:53
  Got got there. The guts telling me the Bucs take this one.
• 1:03:56
  What do you think, Mike? I'm putting you on the spot real quick.
• 1:03:59
  I I'm going to go the other way. I'm going with the Atlanta Falcons at home.
• 1:04:05
  It's going to be a tight division all the way along.
• 1:04:10
  Last year, I think all four of these teams were a trick.
• 1:04:14
  Well, I guess all three of these teams, you know, minus the Panthers were trading wins and losses.
• 1:04:19
  Coming back, though, the Panthers. I mean, honestly, the Panthers are coming back.
• 1:04:23
  I mean, Andy Dalton has completely turned that team around.
• 1:04:26
  But you come down.
• 1:04:29
  Turned it around from the fact that it used to be have zero chance to win. 15 percent chance to win.
• 1:04:35
  Yeah. OK. One more. And they got the Bears this week. Correct.
• 1:04:39
  Fair enough. Fair enough. I'm taking the Bears in my
• 1:04:43
  survivor. Survivor. Survivor League.
• 1:04:46
  Jacob's wife. Does that apply to Jacob's wife?
• 1:04:49
  Oh, yeah. There you go. I got you. I got you with the Bears. She loves you. Bear down.
• 1:04:53
  I mean, you did nail it. The Atlanta offense is not quite clicking.
• 1:04:58
  I think this is the week that it does start to click.
• 1:05:01
  Like their identity is not quite there yet. Yeah, I think they've got a they've got
• 1:05:06
  Bichon, they've got Algiers.
• 1:05:09
  So they've got the running game and that'll give cousins just enough time to start
• 1:05:13
  hooking up with his receivers here. Drake London looks like a true number one.
• 1:05:19
  Kyle Pitts looks like absolutely not a number one. But I think with, you know,
• 1:05:26
  if you if he's not the focal point, you know, getting him four to five catches a game
• 1:05:31
  is doable with London taking all of the the attention.
• 1:05:35
  So. Sure. Sure. Rob, you want me to look for a finger?
• 1:05:39
  You're all squinty eyed over there. Like, look like you're really deep in thought.
• 1:05:43
  During the game last night, we were on a conversation. I was on Twitter watching all of
• 1:05:48
  Pitt's routes. Yeah. And I think it was like the first eight passes were all
• 1:05:53
  incompletes. He looks like just not into it.
• 1:05:57
  He's not committing to the ball. He's not really he's just not playing big and tough
• 1:06:02
  like you would need a tight end to do. So I'm going Buccaneers.
• 1:06:06
  I think the defense is going to punch him in the mouth.
• 1:06:08
  And I think the Bucks are in get up early.
• 1:06:11
  And I think I have really might be a route. Wow.
• 1:06:15
  A route. Oh, Baker.
• 1:06:19
  We're doing Mike Evans doing the gritty just whatever.
• 1:06:26
  The Buccaneers got their
• 1:06:29
  I would argue their best defensive player back last week in Vita Vaya. Yes.
• 1:06:33
  So then holy cow, does he change the game?
• 1:06:37
  Yeah, absolutely. So I don't think the Falcons are going to be able to run the ball.
• 1:06:42
  Yeah. And so it's going to be Baker and then Bucks Baker and them Bucks for Jake.
• 1:06:47
  Mike is on an island in Atlanta. I get a chance to make up a game.
• 1:06:52
  Hey, I think that Rob has that same feeling about the Rams.
• 1:06:55
  We all know that that's not going to work.
• 1:06:58
  So much for five years.
• 1:07:01
  The number one spot you got to hold the seats right that down.
• 1:07:04
  So, Jake, I'm coming to write back at you.
• 1:07:06
  Ravens traveling to the Bengals for an AFC North battle.
• 1:07:10
  Is there any question? Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Ravens Ravens flock. Let's go.
• 1:07:17
  That's it. That's all you need to know.
• 1:07:21
  We're going to keep seeing Derek Henry.
• 1:07:24
  They figured it out.
• 1:07:26
  Justin Hills are really good scat back and number two option.
• 1:07:30
  So if they want to play shock, if they want to put Lamar in shotgun,
• 1:07:34
  you'll see more Justin Justice Hill or Justin Hill.
• 1:07:38
  And yeah, the defense is going to continue to wreak havoc.
• 1:07:42
  I'm not that scared of Jamar Chase.
• 1:07:45
  Oh, Jamar, you listen to that.
• 1:07:48
  Not very scared.
• 1:07:50
  The that the front the front seven for Baltimore so long and lanky
• 1:07:54
  like they'll they'll be able to get to Joe Burrow and just wreak havoc.
• 1:07:58
  All right. Let me flip this real quick because you're a Ravens fan.
• 1:08:01
  What would it take for the Bengals to win?
• 1:08:04
  Be a different team.
• 1:08:08
  They need the Ravens.
• 1:08:12
  Burrow and Chase to be on the Tigers again.
• 1:08:15
  You know, like it's a weakness.
• 1:08:17
  What do you say? You know, like as a Vikings fan, I say if someone runs the ball
• 1:08:20
  against us, they could be.
• 1:08:22
  So the was it not that two years ago when they put up like half a hundo on them.
• 1:08:29
  They had they had three they had three outstanding wide receivers.
• 1:08:33
  Ravens had a banged up secondary.
• 1:08:35
  So this this match is early in the season and Ravens secondary is healthy.
• 1:08:42
  And so if the Bengals got up 21, nothing, you would be pretty confident
• 1:08:46
  that they're coming back.
• 1:08:49
  I would be a little nervous.
• 1:08:51
  And my concern there is the offensive play calling is we've seen when they fall
• 1:08:55
  behind early that they get pass happy.
• 1:08:59
  They get pass happy.
• 1:09:00
  They get away from what they what they do best.
• 1:09:02
  OK. All right.
• 1:09:03
  That's what I wanted to hear on the other side of it.
• 1:09:05
  You know, like to hear what it would take to beat the Ravens in this game.
• 1:09:09
  But. Good call.
• 1:09:12
  We got to stay with our AFC fan.
• 1:09:14
  I mean, I'm taking the Ravens until Ravens.
• 1:09:17
  I mean, until somebody tackles Derek Henry until they don't run for 250 yards in a game.
• 1:09:23
  I think he's still running. Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  He literally could be so make the world this case.
• 1:09:32
  Yeah. I mean, it's the Bengals don't look good this year to get to your question.
• 1:09:37
  I think what would have I mean, Burrow and Chase would just have to have an
• 1:09:41
  astronomical game, I think, to hear you back.
• 1:09:43
  Yes. Teagan's is there.
• 1:09:45
  I mean, he'd definitely be involved in that.
• 1:09:47
  I think, yeah, just be some sort of passing mayhem that, you know, just fluke plays.
• 1:09:53
  Somebody slips on the field.
• 1:09:55
  Bengals get up a couple of touchdowns, maybe three touchdowns early would be the only way.
• 1:10:00
  Until somebody stops this new Ravens offense of the last two weeks, I don't pick against them.
• 1:10:05
  True. I'm going Ravens.
• 1:10:06
  Anyways, I just throw out the questions to see the other side of it.
• 1:10:09
  Ravens. OK. But yeah, I there the way they are establishing the running game right now is tough.
• 1:10:14
  And that defense flies all over the field.
• 1:10:17
  I was really impressed with watching him the other day, you know, and I was asking whether they're play a lot more man a zone, but they're playing match zone or something.
• 1:10:25
  But it almost seemed like every throw for Josh Allen was contested.
• 1:10:30
  It wasn't a window throw.
• 1:10:32
  It was it was a man to man view when they needed a third down.
• 1:10:36
  So, yeah, I'm going Ravens.
• 1:10:38
  They're playing good ball right now.
• 1:10:40
  Um, well, I'm going to throw it at the wall and see if it sticks.
• 1:10:45
  Last week and I went four and one last week, so it didn't work.
• 1:10:49
  One loss is what you're saying.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah, no, I'm five and oh this week, buddy, with the Bengals.
• 1:10:55
  And it's just another feeling like I kind of got with the Bills, although a little bit different because Ravens are coming in this game three and all right.
• 1:11:05
  They found their identity last week.
• 1:11:08
  I'm really scared about the Bengals offense.
• 1:11:11
  I mean, their defense. So I mean, the offense, too, but their defense, their deep more so their defense.
• 1:11:15
  I'm really worried about the Bengals defense in this game specifically.
• 1:11:18
  So it sounds like I'm trying to talk myself out of it, but I'm going to take the shot in the dark that the Bengals attempt to get back on track in potentially the hardest division that we thought coming into this.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, it was the best division in the preseason.
• 1:11:31
  Yeah, so I'm going to take a shot that the Bengals get back on track.
• 1:11:34
  Do they win next week?
• 1:11:35
  I don't even care who they play.
• 1:11:36
  Probably not.
• 1:11:37
  But I think this could be an anomaly game.
• 1:11:40
  But in the opposite sense that the Jets had this week, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:43
  Yeah, because the Bengals lose this week.
• 1:11:45
  That season's pretty much their season's pretty much done.
• 1:11:47
  Yeah. And I think they know that.
• 1:11:49
  I think they know that they're one and three right now.
• 1:11:51
  Right. Last place.
• 1:11:52
  Yeah. Division.
• 1:11:53
  Division.
• 1:11:54
  And that's what's got it for me.
• 1:11:56
  It's a division game.
• 1:11:57
  It's going to be close.
• 1:11:59
  I think the Bengals somehow magically pull this out.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:12:06
  I mean, if that happens, it's going to be an exciting game to watch.
• 1:12:09
  I know it's insane.
• 1:12:11
  I know it's insane.
• 1:12:12
  I want to pull up Tyler and Matt and Ben's picks as well just to share them with you guys,
• 1:12:17
  because I did actually get those prior this week.
• 1:12:20
  Matt, he's going with the Vikes, the Packers, the Bills over the Texans.
• 1:12:25
  He's going with the Bucks over Atlanta and Ravens over the Bengals.
• 1:12:30
  I wonder if anybody's going to take a shot at the Bengals.
• 1:12:32
  Not Tyler.
• 1:12:33
  Tyler's going with the Vikes, the Packers, the Bills, the Buccaneers and the Ravens.
• 1:12:40
  So far, you're the only one with the Falcons.
• 1:12:42
  Favourites.
• 1:12:43
  And then who's our other guy?
• 1:12:45
  Oh, Ben.
• 1:12:46
  Ben.
• 1:12:47
  Ben.
• 1:12:48
  Where's Ben?
• 1:12:49
  There's Ben.
• 1:12:50
  He did not send me his picks yet.
• 1:12:51
  So Ben's picks will be coming.
• 1:12:52
  So at the moment, you're the only one with the Falcons.
• 1:12:55
  You know what, their hosts, we totally forgot that we knew Mike wasn't being on and we had
• 1:13:00
  to put the Colts in the matchup game.
• 1:13:02
  No, we knew that though.
• 1:13:04
  We knew that.
• 1:13:05
  Give me a minute of the Colts upcoming game.
• 1:13:08
  What are your thoughts?
• 1:13:09
  Colts at Jacksonville.
• 1:13:10
  That's why we didn't pick it.
• 1:13:13
  Yeah.
• 1:13:14
  Good 0-4.
• 1:13:15
  No offence to the Colts.
• 1:13:16
  It's all of the offence to the Jackson.
• 1:13:18
  No, I mean, Doug Peterson is now, I would say, favourite to get fired first of the year.
• 1:13:27
  It's looking not great in there.
• 1:13:29
  You've got a number one draft pick quarterback down there.
• 1:13:32
  You won the Super Bowl with...
• 1:13:34
  Conversation.
• 1:13:35
  Well, I understand he might not be a number one quarterback, but you're an offensive coach.
• 1:13:39
  You got to the Super Bowl with probably...
• 1:13:42
  What did you say?
• 1:13:43
  Their spread loss is what, 12 total points for the season?
• 1:13:46
  So they've been...
• 1:13:47
  The Jaguars?
• 1:13:48
  They've been competitive.
• 1:13:49
  They have been close.
• 1:13:51
  Their offence just hasn't looked good and I think that's what he got hired to do.
• 1:13:56
  It sounds like he's taking play calling duties this week.
• 1:13:59
  Interesting.
• 1:14:00
  Which, if you go back and look, I don't have stats on it, but a head coach taking play calling
• 1:14:05
  duties is generally the, hey, don't fire me right now.
• 1:14:07
  I'll fix it with play calling in three to four weeks.
• 1:14:11
  That doesn't work.
• 1:14:12
  It's, all right, now you can show me the...
• 1:14:13
  We're on the Doug Pederson watch.
• 1:14:16
  I would say if you're in a place that allows betting and you want to put some money on
• 1:14:20
  first coach fired, I think that's the favourite right now.
• 1:14:23
  I think Colts are going to go down there, handle business, take care of an 0-4 team.
• 1:14:29
  Our defence is holding us together right now as we work through this AR situation.
• 1:14:35
  I'm going to guess that he does play this week.
• 1:14:40
  If there's any issue, I would say sit him.
• 1:14:44
  Let's take the week, get everything cleared up medically, but I think he'll want to play.
• 1:14:49
  He doesn't want to.
• 1:14:50
  He wanted to play.
• 1:14:51
  He's correct.
• 1:14:52
  He's a football player, but man.
• 1:14:55
  Sometimes you've got to protect the player from themselves.
• 1:14:58
  Correct.
• 1:14:59
  For sure.
• 1:15:00
  I just wanted to hear his pick.
• 1:15:01
  He won't be here next week to tell us that they just lost the 0-4 game.
• 1:15:06
  Oh man.
• 1:15:07
  It's easy out.
• 1:15:08
  And it's not on record either on the pick.
• 1:15:11
  Put it on there.
• 1:15:14
  Well, bonus pick.
• 1:15:17
  I mean, he is playing catch up on his pick.
• 1:15:19
  Fair, fair.
• 1:15:20
  We'll spot him one game right there.
• 1:15:22
  No.
• 1:15:23
  He's like, you can't pick against an 0-4 team.
• 1:15:29
  With that, Mike, thanks for being here the last two weeks.
• 1:15:32
  We appreciate your insight of football knowledge in general, but obviously your insight of the
• 1:15:37
  Colts.
• 1:15:38
  We really appreciate you bringing that to the table and maybe we see you return later
• 1:15:43
  in the season as well as the Colts make their playoff push.
• 1:15:45
  Yeah, Colts make their playoff push, possibly upset the Vikings for the first loss of the
• 1:15:51
  year.
• 1:15:52
  Hold on.
• 1:15:53
  Every time we try to invite somebody back potentially, they say something out of pocket.
• 1:15:59
  I don't understand.
• 1:16:00
  Hey, that would mean you're like 6-0, 7-0.
• 1:16:03
  We don't play until like week 7 or 8.
• 1:16:05
  Fair, all right, man.
• 1:16:06
  We're there, we'll have that conversation.
• 1:16:07
  It would rather be 8-0 or 9-0.
• 1:16:08
  But no, seriously, thanks for being on the pod.
• 1:16:13
  We appreciate you.
• 1:16:15
  Represent Andrew Block.
• 1:16:18
  Jake, thanks for being here this week on short notice at that end for coming back next week.
• 1:16:23
  Yeah, I'll definitely be back next week, hopefully to continue to gloat about Derek Henry.
• 1:16:28
  Gloat about Derek Henry.
• 1:16:30
  Bangles are, no, never mind, wrong game.
• 1:16:32
  Oh no, right game, yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Bangles are winning, so I'm right, I'm right.
• 1:16:34
  So we'll talk about that next week.
• 1:16:35
  We'll talk about that next week.
• 1:16:38
  Rob, I'll see you next week.
• 1:16:43
  Love you too.
• 1:16:46
  No, appreciate your knowledge, obviously, as always.
• 1:16:50
  Yeah, Skol Viks.
• 1:16:51
  I mean, there's not much for you and I to say.
• 1:16:53
  9-0.
• 1:16:54
  You know, Skol Viks.
• 1:16:55
  We're just floating on cloud nine right now.
• 1:16:56
  Yeah.
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  We're going to continue that this week.
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  We're going to keep playing with House Money this week.
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  Yes.
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  But don't forget to like, comment, subscribe wherever you listen to the band or whether
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  that's YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
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  And we'll see you next week when the Viks are 5-0.