Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Keith Sweat Opens Up About Writing Through Heartbreak, Award Snubs, R&B Evolution + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Don't every day up waiting, click your ass up.
- 0:04Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club finished.
- 0:05Speaker 3: For y'all done morning, everybody's j n V.
- 0:09Speaker 4: Just hilarious, charlamage the god we are the breakfast Club
- 0:12Speaker 4: Lawla Ross here as well.
- 0:13Speaker 3: We got a special guest.
- 0:14Speaker 1: In the building, the legendary that I come.
- 0:16Speaker 5: That's right, ladies and gentlemen, keep.
- 0:18Speaker 6: Sweat, y'are doing new year?
- 0:21Speaker 1: My brother a year, my brother, you ain't you ain't
- 0:24Speaker 1: missing no checks. I know that much.
- 0:26Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 0:27Speaker 7: I might be missing a few. But whatever wherever they
- 0:31Speaker 7: had them, go go get them.
- 0:32Speaker 5: That's right now.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Keith popped out at our jingle ball in Atlanta, fall
- 0:37Speaker 4: Man at the arm b set Man.
- 0:38Speaker 5: He had ladies going crazy out there.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Always did you ever get tired of it?
- 0:42Speaker 6: Nah?
- 0:43Speaker 7: I love that, you know. I love going on after
- 0:46Speaker 7: some people. I gotta make my statement. It's still the same.
- 0:49Speaker 7: Ain't nothing make it last whatever, baby.
- 0:51Speaker 8: But your music has last through so many different generations
- 0:54Speaker 8: like it, don't even matter what crowd, keep sweat, pop
- 0:56Speaker 8: up out.
- 0:57Speaker 1: They know the word.
- 0:58Speaker 3: They know you'd be up there with that cup.
- 1:03Speaker 6: It's some tea.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Now you going out on tour with you Joe Drew
- 1:09Speaker 3: Hill in genuine.
- 1:10Speaker 6: Man, not just add it cut close on my set?
- 1:13Speaker 5: Yeah, brilliant.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh that's dope.
- 1:15Speaker 3: So what does it matter who closes out a show
- 1:18Speaker 3: like that?
- 1:18Speaker 5: Do you care?
- 1:18Speaker 3: I mean, because you got the hits, you got the legacy,
- 1:20Speaker 3: do you care where you?
- 1:22Speaker 7: I really don't care for nobody really wants to go
- 1:24Speaker 7: on after me, you know what I'm saying. But I
- 1:26Speaker 7: don't really care because the sweet spot normally is nine
- 1:29Speaker 7: thirty ten o'clock at the show.
- 1:31Speaker 6: That's the sweet spot.
- 1:32Speaker 7: So you know, sometimes people cry about you know, but
- 1:35Speaker 7: nowadays when people come to a showy they're more concerned
- 1:38Speaker 7: about what kind of show you put on. They don't
- 1:40Speaker 7: really care who head and line it because you know,
- 1:42Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, as long as you rock the joint,
- 1:45Speaker 7: you know they gonna talk about you.
- 1:46Speaker 6: That's what I do. I say, you want to close?
- 1:48Speaker 6: He closed? I don't care who put the gether of
- 1:50Speaker 6: the lineup.
- 1:51Speaker 7: Well, you know, you can't get me on my show
- 1:53Speaker 7: unless than I agree to it. I gotta agreed to it.
- 1:56Speaker 7: So you know, any any deals I do, like, you
- 2:00Speaker 7: gotta tell me who was on the show before I
- 2:01Speaker 7: agreed to it.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Who all over there. Who who.
- 2:05Speaker 9: Are you gonna see you and cut close on the
- 2:07Speaker 9: stage together myself.
- 2:09Speaker 10: Yeah, this is crazy, Joe Drew Hill. Genuine you're gonna
- 2:16Speaker 10: try to dance because you got to. You gotta compete dance.
- 2:21Speaker 6: I mean I don't need to dance.
- 2:26Speaker 7: I got I got dancers my day, I got eight
- 2:30Speaker 7: twelve dancers. I don't need to dance.
- 2:32Speaker 8: I got You know, when people talk about R and
- 2:34Speaker 8: B keeps like your name is like foundational when it
- 2:37Speaker 8: comes to R and B. At what point did you
- 2:38Speaker 8: realize you weren't just making songs, you were like shaping
- 2:41Speaker 8: the whole sound.
- 2:43Speaker 7: I mean when I came in, I knew I could
- 2:44Speaker 7: do up, temple and slow and they all had the
- 2:48Speaker 7: same effects. So uh like there's nothing I can you know,
- 2:52Speaker 7: like I do affle, bead, R and B slow, fast,
- 2:56Speaker 7: it doesn't matter. So I mean I knew at that point,
- 2:59Speaker 7: once I knew I could do whatever, you know, I
- 3:01Speaker 7: knew I would. I would captivate you know that R
- 3:04Speaker 7: and B audience because of the fact, you know everybody
- 3:06Speaker 7: in the R and B game can't do everything. Well,
- 3:08Speaker 7: you sound crazy if you're doing the slow So if
- 3:10Speaker 7: feel ballad ded, you sound crazy trying to do an
- 3:12Speaker 7: up temple joint.
- 3:13Speaker 6: It don't work for everybody.
- 3:15Speaker 9: How do you feel when, like some of your songs
- 3:18Speaker 9: like I know I won't be here for long, it's
- 3:21Speaker 9: like the TikTok and even on Instagram, like it's like
- 3:23Speaker 9: the go to for a lot of the videos that
- 3:24Speaker 9: people use for the means when that happens, like as
- 3:27Speaker 9: an artist, like when you're watching it, how do you
- 3:29Speaker 9: feel when you see people using your sounds across TikTok
- 3:31Speaker 9: and Instagram?
- 3:32Speaker 3: Like, all these years later, I feel.
- 3:34Speaker 7: Good about it because I felt like I did what
- 3:36Speaker 7: I needed to do. I accomplished what I needed to accomplish.
- 3:39Speaker 7: I made an effect on the whole generation, you know,
- 3:42Speaker 7: So I feel like, you know, it makes me feel good.
- 3:45Speaker 7: It makes me feel proud about Yo, I created this
- 3:47Speaker 7: because you know, I write and produce all my joints. So,
- 3:51Speaker 7: you know, me writing and producing my joints and people
- 3:53Speaker 7: still living it to this day makes me feel like, Yo,
- 3:57Speaker 7: I am that dude.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I saw you post.
- 4:00Speaker 8: Can somebody please explain to me how Mary go Around
- 4:03Speaker 8: ended up on Roadblock?
- 4:05Speaker 3: Did you know because you wasn't on everywhere?
- 4:09Speaker 6: No. I looked at that joint. I was saying, what
- 4:12Speaker 6: the hell is this?
- 4:13Speaker 2: Now?
- 4:13Speaker 6: I don't I don't even know.
- 4:14Speaker 7: Man, It's just I look at Instagram and and and
- 4:18Speaker 7: Facebook and YouTube, and like, what.
- 4:20Speaker 6: The hell is this?
- 4:21Speaker 5: How did you hear you was on roadblocks?
- 4:23Speaker 6: I just happened to look at see it happened.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Just happened to be some some chickouse. I got a
- 4:29Speaker 2: look roadblocks in my life.
- 4:36Speaker 7: I'm on roadblocks and whatever blocks from my block.
- 4:52Speaker 8: It is interesting, know how you got a whole generation
- 4:54Speaker 8: that's rediscovering like real grown R and B. So so,
- 4:59Speaker 8: so what do you think like modern R and B
- 5:01Speaker 8: is getting right? And what do you think that they're
- 5:03Speaker 8: missing that they keep coming back to the old G stuff.
- 5:06Speaker 7: Well, like I had a conversation with Pleasure and all,
- 5:09Speaker 7: some of them young brothers, and I said, man, y'all,
- 5:11Speaker 7: y'all keep saying R and B is dead. Y'all killed
- 5:13Speaker 7: arm B because y'all want to curse the songs. Y'all
- 5:16Speaker 7: want to act like rm B is a rap record.
- 5:19Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 5:20Speaker 7: I mean, rm B is full player R and B
- 5:22Speaker 7: is You know, y'all took the whole four play game
- 5:24Speaker 7: out there rap if you cursing and you're trying to
- 5:26Speaker 7: make up with your girl or whatever, and you're playing
- 5:30Speaker 7: R and B song you curse it.
- 5:32Speaker 6: How you're gonna make up? Y'all have an August? So
- 5:33Speaker 6: now that record arguing with y'all to join the argument.
- 5:41Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So I'm saying, so yo,
- 5:43Speaker 6: that's not what rm B was about.
- 5:44Speaker 7: That's what rm B is. The mell ship out melon.
- 5:47Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, For y'all to sit down,
- 5:49Speaker 7: talk it out, talk it out, talk it out, y'all.
- 5:51Speaker 6: Don't kill the game.
- 5:53Speaker 7: So that's why they keep sampling my ship because they like, oh,
- 5:56Speaker 7: make it last.
- 5:57Speaker 5: Who could lay you like me?
- 5:58Speaker 6: Nobody? You know you got twisted girl. You know what
- 6:01Speaker 6: I'm saying.
- 6:01Speaker 7: I said, that's what everybody's going back to. That's why
- 6:04Speaker 7: every sample in my songs.
- 6:08Speaker 4: I got into an argument with this guy in Starbucks yesterday,
- 6:10Speaker 4: right two days ago. He works there, and he was
- 6:12Speaker 4: talking about hip hop and R and B and he
- 6:13Speaker 4: was saying that, you know, people are making R and
- 6:17Speaker 4: B hip hop and I'm like, that's not true. I'm like,
- 6:19Speaker 4: there are some R and B artists out of hip hop,
- 6:22Speaker 4: like Mary J.
- 6:22Speaker 5: Blige, I say, Chris Brown.
- 6:24Speaker 4: But I said, there are are and B artists that
- 6:26Speaker 4: are not hip hop, and I'm like, like, Keith Sweat
- 6:28Speaker 4: is an R and B artist. So do you think
- 6:30Speaker 4: that when you talk about the cursed in the music?
- 6:32Speaker 4: Do you think there's different levels of doing it, different
- 6:34Speaker 4: ways of doing it? Like the hip hop version to
- 6:36Speaker 4: R and B and then just R and.
- 6:37Speaker 6: B, when back in the day, R and B was
- 6:39Speaker 6: just R and B.
- 6:40Speaker 7: Even when Mary did it back in the day, she
- 6:42Speaker 7: still did it R and B, you know, I mean?
- 6:46Speaker 7: And so I think what sometimes we as R and
- 6:51Speaker 7: B artists have a tendency to do is we try
- 6:55Speaker 7: to be we create ourselves, and we know follow the
- 6:59Speaker 7: trend of what everybody else is doing, which doesn't work
- 7:02Speaker 7: for everybody, and it shouldn't work for everybody. I'm not
- 7:05Speaker 7: trying to follow what everybody else is doing. That's why
- 7:08Speaker 7: I'm in this lane by myself, or certain lanes by myself,
- 7:10Speaker 7: because I don't care what he doing on the right
- 7:12Speaker 7: or he doing on the left.
- 7:14Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 7:15Speaker 7: That doesn't make your pioneer following somebody else. I don't
- 7:17Speaker 7: want to follow you. I don't want to follow you.
- 7:19Speaker 7: This is what I do because for so long people
- 7:21Speaker 7: have talked shit about he sweat, but he don't do this,
- 7:24Speaker 7: he don't do that, he don't do that. So now
- 7:27Speaker 7: my point is I'm just laughing thirty our years later
- 7:30Speaker 7: and say, y'all thought I couldn't do this, and I did.
- 7:33Speaker 7: I didn't do that because I didn't want to do this.
- 7:35Speaker 5: You couldn't do to dance. That's it. That's the only
- 7:39Speaker 5: I heard.
- 7:39Speaker 6: I could dance. You've seen me on something to go
- 7:41Speaker 6: back and look at some of the.
- 7:45Speaker 7: Now but you know, like for instance, like I never
- 7:48Speaker 7: won a bet Award. I never want to Grammy after grant,
- 7:53Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. But when I get on stage,
- 7:55Speaker 7: I always say, y'all of my Grammys could look you
- 7:58Speaker 7: know everybody that has done that, they're not even still relevant.
- 8:03Speaker 7: You know, I'm still headlining and I'm still doing what
- 8:05Speaker 7: I do, so I'm still able to do tours and
- 8:08Speaker 7: you know, do six seven thousand or more people. So
- 8:12Speaker 7: you know, Africa been trying to get me over there
- 8:14Speaker 7: for the longest. You know what I'm saying. They trying
- 8:16Speaker 7: to go up on the money more and more.
- 8:18Speaker 6: Please me. Stee Way coming to see me. I've been
- 8:24Speaker 6: to Africa. I've been all over.
- 8:29Speaker 7: I've been a Kate Town, derb and you know, Johannesburg,
- 8:33Speaker 7: NIGERI I've been to Africa before. But you know, I mean,
- 8:37Speaker 7: you know last time when the Africa was funny because
- 8:39Speaker 7: they got me because you know, he said, you're playing
- 8:43Speaker 7: in Africa.
- 8:44Speaker 6: I said, okay, so I'm in Africa right.
- 8:47Speaker 7: We're in the car driving, so I said, well the sugar,
- 8:50Speaker 7: I said, oh man, they having a game over there.
- 8:52Speaker 7: It's packed out as a soccer stadium. He said, my brother,
- 8:55Speaker 7: that's where you beformed me tonight. I said, hold, look,
- 8:59Speaker 7: wait a minute, let me get this person on the phone.
- 9:02Speaker 7: You said them, he said, it sold out soccer stadium,
- 9:05Speaker 7: standing room only. Man, I called back to America, I said, man,
- 9:10Speaker 7: if you don't put some more money in mind, I'm
- 9:13Speaker 7: coming home. So that's the last time I've been South
- 9:17Speaker 7: Africa when it was soccer stadium, you know I did.
- 9:19Speaker 6: It was packed out. It was damn man.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And so so you thought she was doing a smaller venue.
- 9:24Speaker 6: Oh my god, yes I did. And then I seen
- 9:26Speaker 6: I said, mante the game there.
- 9:27Speaker 7: No, that's what you so. So now they're getting it
- 9:33Speaker 7: all together. So you know, you know, they sent me
- 9:37Speaker 7: some stuff. They want me going to Shambia, you know
- 9:40Speaker 7: what I'm or. You know, they're trying to put the
- 9:42Speaker 7: whole thing together. But I said before I go, I
- 9:45Speaker 7: want to make.
- 9:45Speaker 5: Sure that's what stadiums.
- 9:47Speaker 6: You doing at the stadiums, and the money got to
- 9:49Speaker 6: be what it got to be. You know what I'm saying.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Do you think pain is necessary to make great? R?
- 9:55Speaker 6: And B or can enjoy be just as powerful? And
- 9:57Speaker 6: the love song?
- 10:01Speaker 7: I've never been happy making the love song? No, No,
- 10:05Speaker 7: I mean you know, like my best songs came from
- 10:09Speaker 7: being hurt.
- 10:11Speaker 6: Make it last Forever.
- 10:12Speaker 7: That first album was a hurt, was all pain and
- 10:16Speaker 7: nobody was I think it was all pain. You know,
- 10:20Speaker 7: like we all go through things in our life, you
- 10:22Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And some people you know, and
- 10:23Speaker 7: it doesn't necessarily a female. You know what I'm saying.
- 10:25Speaker 7: Things hit you at a you know where you least suspected.
- 10:28Speaker 7: You know, we could be like one day and be
- 10:30Speaker 7: like going on the next you know what I'm saying.
- 10:33Speaker 7: So you know that's when I think I get my
- 10:36Speaker 7: best ideas when I run in the studio after you know,
- 10:40Speaker 7: I'm going through something because that's like, for me therapeutic.
- 10:45Speaker 7: I can write songs and it's there, very therapeutic for me,
- 10:47Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh my god, because I've written songs
- 10:50Speaker 7: in two hours, three songs and two hours and they
- 10:53Speaker 7: were hit you know, and it was therapeutic for me.
- 10:56Speaker 7: It was like me, you know, getting counseling. You know
- 10:59Speaker 7: what I'm saying, that type of stuf.
- 11:00Speaker 8: That's interesting, you said, because a lot of your records
- 11:02Speaker 8: do feel like conversations people were afraid to have in
- 11:05Speaker 8: real life.
- 11:05Speaker 1: So you are writing from personal.
- 11:07Speaker 6: Experience, right, definitely.
- 11:08Speaker 9: I don't know if you want to share. But during
- 11:10Speaker 9: to make It Last for every time, what was it
- 11:12Speaker 9: that you were exploring?
- 11:13Speaker 7: This girl cheated on me so ahead, So I was like, yo,
- 11:19Speaker 7: so I went through a whole It was like what
- 11:22Speaker 7: I really went through. Something just ain't right was really
- 11:24Speaker 7: something just ain't right. Make it last was really make
- 11:28Speaker 7: it last. Don't stop your lover was really don't stop
- 11:30Speaker 7: your How deep is your love?
- 11:32Speaker 6: Was really? Yo? You don't really love me like you
- 11:34Speaker 6: say you love me? Yeah, so make it last forever?
- 11:38Speaker 4: She cheated on you with another celebrity a ball.
- 11:41Speaker 6: Player, just a regular game on me.
- 11:42Speaker 7: She came, she came to her school reunion, saying, got
- 11:47Speaker 7: with one of whole You know, actually I was in
- 11:49Speaker 7: New York. She came to Atlanta and where out there?
- 11:52Speaker 7: And then her girlfriend told Anna.
- 11:55Speaker 4: Da damn, you get with the girl.
- 12:04Speaker 6: A girlfriend?
- 12:05Speaker 7: Man, I didn't want a girlfriend us a snitch.
- 12:16Speaker 1: But that's how you felt for you want happy that
- 12:17Speaker 1: the girl came to you and told.
- 12:18Speaker 6: You what was up that ship? Now that shit made
- 12:21Speaker 6: me hurt, mold Nick.
- 12:23Speaker 1: So you rather be cheated on in peace you might
- 12:25Speaker 1: not even know about.
- 12:26Speaker 6: I want to know what I don't want to know.
- 12:27Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of like you want to know,
- 12:29Speaker 7: but you said some things are better said on said.
- 12:32Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. You know how that is.
- 12:34Speaker 7: You want to know what you don't want to know?
- 12:35Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
- 12:37Speaker 6: So it's like I'm like, damn, do I really want
- 12:39Speaker 6: to know? Because some things that hit you harder knowing
- 12:42Speaker 6: getting that confirmation something.
- 12:45Speaker 7: You would always had that little bitting you saying, well
- 12:47Speaker 7: maybe that didn't have it, you know, but what you
- 12:50Speaker 7: know it did happen.
- 12:52Speaker 6: You'll be on the whole nother level.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Man, So you thought she was cheating like you already.
- 12:56Speaker 7: Had, I added in my mind, but she put that
- 13:00Speaker 7: gave you that clarity, and I was like, damn, girl,
- 13:03Speaker 7: you will go.
- 13:03Speaker 4: Back to check out she's doing. But like, I hope
- 13:05Speaker 4: she's doing bad now you check on Facebook.
- 13:07Speaker 6: I'm a funny.
- 13:07Speaker 7: I want everybody cheating on me to do bad.
- 13:13Speaker 6: Anybody. Now that's the that's the that's people mentality.
- 13:18Speaker 7: Because if you if they do they cheated on you,
- 13:22Speaker 7: and they and they and you're doing good, they hate that.
- 13:24Speaker 6: That's the wor they look at you. Oh god, wrong man,
- 13:29Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
- 13:30Speaker 7: But if you're doing bad, they'd be I thank god
- 13:32Speaker 7: I left that one so you be warning.
- 13:34Speaker 6: It's kind of like.
- 13:35Speaker 7: That's it's selfish, but it's real. And if somebody say
- 13:39Speaker 7: that's not true, they lying. I don't care what nobody said.
- 13:42Speaker 1: You know what interrected keeping.
- 13:43Speaker 8: People would think that you are player and you out
- 13:45Speaker 8: here sleeping with a bunch of girl friends and stuff,
- 13:47Speaker 8: but you seem like.
- 13:47Speaker 1: You was a one woman.
- 13:49Speaker 6: Man, look at.
- 13:52Speaker 9: You, what's that You were faithful? Now, whole situation before
- 14:00Speaker 9: you find out you cheated.
- 14:02Speaker 7: I think I was I don't know.
- 14:06Speaker 6: I think I was.
- 14:07Speaker 1: She wasn't cheating back.
- 14:09Speaker 6: No, no, no, I think because I was into it.
- 14:12Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. If I'm into somebody, I
- 14:14Speaker 6: ain't trying to mess it up, mess it up.
- 14:16Speaker 7: But if I ain't really into you, because you know,
- 14:18Speaker 7: sometimes you think you into somebody, you ain't into somebody,
- 14:20Speaker 7: think you see something else walking.
- 14:21Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 14:23Speaker 7: I guess I wasn't into but in my eyes can't
- 14:31Speaker 7: be open. But so I'm funny, man, because you know,
- 14:34Speaker 7: you know the one. If I'm into you, I'm into you.
- 14:37Speaker 7: But if you if I if I see the slightest
- 14:39Speaker 7: little bit of you know, something that you ain't doing, man,
- 14:43Speaker 7: I'm then then I'm like that. Right now, I'm going
- 14:45Speaker 7: through that ship. You know what I mean. I'm going
- 14:48Speaker 7: through that. They think they slick, but they ain't slicking.
- 14:50Speaker 7: I'm putting them out there for you.
- 14:56Speaker 2: That's right.
- 14:59Speaker 9: I was okay, they think they're doing what's happening.
- 15:03Speaker 6: Yo. You know.
- 15:07Speaker 7: When you when you when you when you're doing wrote
- 15:09Speaker 7: songs about bangs, when you're on the experience thing, you know,
- 15:12Speaker 7: when somebody being select You know what I'm saying, when
- 15:14Speaker 7: somebody doing banging somebody else too, you know what I'm saying.
- 15:18Speaker 6: So you know what I'm saying.
- 15:19Speaker 7: And they, you know, they have a tendency to play that,
- 15:21Speaker 7: oh I'm a good girl role. Don't play that like Yo,
- 15:24Speaker 7: my attitude is this right?
- 15:26Speaker 6: Anybody right? And this is the truth.
- 15:29Speaker 7: If you want to open a relationship, just say, yo,
- 15:31Speaker 7: I wanna do my thing, You do your thing with me,
- 15:34Speaker 7: back together, be together.
- 15:36Speaker 6: You know, you take care of things with me when
- 15:39Speaker 6: I'm with you.
- 15:40Speaker 7: And if you want to be with the next man,
- 15:42Speaker 7: let him do what he do he with you, because
- 15:44Speaker 7: if that's what you want, there's nothing wrong with that,
- 15:46Speaker 7: because now you've been because now now that you don't
- 15:49Speaker 7: want to play with people feelings and emotions. It's a
- 15:51Speaker 7: dangerous game out here when you're playing with people feelings
- 15:53Speaker 7: and emotions. So it's like I tell people all day long,
- 15:56Speaker 7: don't you know? You know that's not a toy with
- 16:01Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Because if you ever been hurt,
- 16:05Speaker 7: that joint ain't no joke for real. And some people
- 16:07Speaker 7: can't handle pain, that kind of pain, I can handle it.
- 16:11Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Because I go in the
- 16:12Speaker 6: students start singing. You know what I'm saying. Everybody can.
- 16:16Speaker 6: It's so it's like it's better for people to say, yo,
- 16:18Speaker 6: this is what I want to do.
- 16:19Speaker 5: You do you?
- 16:20Speaker 6: When you do you, I do me, and then when
- 16:22Speaker 6: we want to be together, we do it.
- 16:24Speaker 7: Yeah, but you cannot keep make somebody or you can't
- 16:26Speaker 7: ask somebody do certain things that you're only your real
- 16:30Speaker 7: significant other should do and playing games with them that
- 16:34Speaker 7: is not some of the toy.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And you gotta make a real commitment.
- 16:37Speaker 9: Are you in a relationship right now? Are you in
- 16:40Speaker 9: a relationship right now?
- 16:41Speaker 6: Sometimes I think I am? Sometimes, Man, you gotta stop
- 16:44Speaker 6: with this.
- 16:46Speaker 9: How does she know when she's playing games? If like
- 16:48Speaker 9: what are y'all y'all have like boundaries or like a
- 16:50Speaker 9: certain situation set up, Like there's like like are you exclusive?
- 16:53Speaker 3: Like what is she playing?
- 16:57Speaker 9: You're supposed to be You are supposed to exclusive, right
- 17:01Speaker 9: but you ain't.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Keith, don't talk. You're ready to go back and tell
- 17:05Speaker 1: a girl.
- 17:06Speaker 6: Don't telling.
- 17:06Speaker 9: I'm just trying to figure it out because I just
- 17:08Speaker 9: want to know where you're coming from.
- 17:09Speaker 6: Okay, that you got it? You know? Okay? Exactly?
- 17:12Speaker 1: He brom What the closest you think you've ever been
- 17:17Speaker 1: to getting married.
- 17:19Speaker 6: I've been married before. You're married a long time ago.
- 17:22Speaker 6: Don't bring it up though.
- 17:25Speaker 7: Damn whatever, people you are great, move on to another.
- 17:35Speaker 6: Didn't last like that?
- 17:36Speaker 8: Who do you listen to when you're going through a heartbreak?
- 17:39Speaker 8: People listen to your music when they sweat you Just
- 17:41Speaker 8: go in there and write something.
- 17:43Speaker 7: You think I'm playing, No, I'm not playing. I don't
- 17:47Speaker 7: want to hear nobody else singing to me when I'm
- 17:49Speaker 7: going to a heartbreak. I want to hear me sing
- 17:51Speaker 7: to me. Say yo, this is how you figure your situation.
- 17:53Speaker 7: I promise you I'm not listening nobody else. I'm going
- 17:56Speaker 7: to heartbreak because I've written too many songs to heal myself.
- 18:00Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I go back and listen,
- 18:03Speaker 6: you know, because I've.
- 18:03Speaker 7: Been for Drew Hill, Ron Osley and Mature everybody right,
- 18:08Speaker 7: so I can listen to some of them songs.
- 18:11Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 18:11Speaker 7: Say, Okay, this is because, like I said, every time
- 18:14Speaker 7: I've been through a situation, I've been able to write.
- 18:17Speaker 7: And so I can go to maybe the second third
- 18:20Speaker 7: album and listen to something that be like damn that
- 18:25Speaker 7: and it might heal man feel good, you know, I
- 18:28Speaker 7: feel good about it, But no LSG album anything.
- 18:30Speaker 6: Sothing like that.
- 18:31Speaker 9: You know, are you the type of person after a heartbreak?
- 18:33Speaker 9: Like if the person breaks your heart, are you willing
- 18:35Speaker 9: to work it out and move forward or you just
- 18:37Speaker 9: completely off the person after that and you're moving on
- 18:38Speaker 9: to something. No.
- 18:39Speaker 6: I don't like starting over. I'm a person that don't like.
- 18:44Speaker 7: I like to try to fix what's broke, because you know,
- 18:47Speaker 7: I just feel like if you when you get into
- 18:50Speaker 7: a new situation, it's still gonna be something that's you
- 18:54Speaker 7: have to work through and fix, and then you're gonna
- 18:56Speaker 7: have the same problem. So my ad a lot of
- 18:59Speaker 7: times you're gonna when you have the same problems. So
- 19:01Speaker 7: my attitude is to try to fix what's broken because
- 19:05Speaker 7: you know that person someone and that person knows you somewhat,
- 19:08Speaker 7: So do what you gotta do to fix that if
- 19:11Speaker 7: you think you can trust that person, that you feel
- 19:13Speaker 7: that person can trust you, or you feel you can
- 19:14Speaker 7: get to a middle point where y'all both agree. That's
- 19:17Speaker 7: my point, because going to something else is like, oh,
- 19:20Speaker 7: I got to meet the family, Mambers I gotta meet.
- 19:23Speaker 7: It's just that whole process, and it takes a long time,
- 19:26Speaker 7: and then you'd be like, you're so consumed with a
- 19:28Speaker 7: bunch of difference, because it's always gonna be somebody who
- 19:31Speaker 7: has the what's.
- 19:32Speaker 6: The next set of problems? It's gonna be that.
- 19:35Speaker 7: And anybody that says it's not it's not true because
- 19:37Speaker 7: I've experienced that. Okay, I gotta deal with this, this
- 19:40Speaker 7: one not dealt with and this is this situation, and
- 19:42Speaker 7: now I gotta deal with this in their situation, and
- 19:44Speaker 7: so it's always gonna be something else.
- 19:45Speaker 1: But the current situation.
- 19:46Speaker 10: Now, why a you't trying to fix that?
- 19:49Speaker 6: I don't say I ain't tried. They might. They might
- 19:51Speaker 6: think they still slick, you know what I'm saying. So
- 19:53Speaker 6: you know, watch not after she watched this, she gonna know. No,
- 19:58Speaker 6: son's son just ain't right.
- 20:03Speaker 9: Is another celebrity that you'redating. Do you stick to people
- 20:05Speaker 9: who are like non celebrity?
- 20:06Speaker 6: I don't.
- 20:07Speaker 7: I don't do the celebrity dating thing. I just don't.
- 20:11Speaker 7: I mean, because it's I don't have.
- 20:13Speaker 5: You tried before you ever?
- 20:16Speaker 6: Well when I got with him, they wasn't celebrity. I don't.
- 20:20Speaker 7: I just don't. I like two people be private, but
- 20:24Speaker 7: not be private, you know what I mean? If you
- 20:26Speaker 7: don't want to take a picture with me, that means you're.
- 20:28Speaker 6: Doing something wrong. You know what I'm saying.
- 20:30Speaker 7: You know, but I don't do the dating celebrity thing.
- 20:34Speaker 7: I've always been like that.
- 20:36Speaker 6: I don't. It's just something about me.
- 20:37Speaker 8: I don't want to do that. When you say not
- 20:40Speaker 8: wanting to take a picture with you, what do you mean?
- 20:42Speaker 7: I mean, you know where most people, you know how
- 20:44Speaker 7: people out and if somebody don't want to be seen,
- 20:47Speaker 7: take a picture with you.
- 20:48Speaker 8: And it's not like some young girls on vacation with
- 20:50Speaker 8: the sugar daddy.
- 20:52Speaker 6: I don't start that bullshitt. You want to be in
- 20:59Speaker 6: the video you had new from that, you know what
- 21:01Speaker 6: I'm talking about?
- 21:02Speaker 2: Your right?
- 21:06Speaker 10: Don't just take the picture the food and crop my
- 21:07Speaker 10: head out.
- 21:08Speaker 9: But I mean not that you're a sugar daddy, but
- 21:11Speaker 9: you are Keith Sweat. So it's like I would think
- 21:13Speaker 9: that you wouldn't want to be in the photo.
- 21:15Speaker 6: But if I'm not, if that's the one, I.
- 21:18Speaker 7: Mean you sugar Zaddy, like you know, don't there y'all
- 21:21Speaker 7: go yo, get them some water.
- 21:30Speaker 5: But can the R and B singer have a night off.
- 21:32Speaker 6: Right.
- 21:32Speaker 4: What I mean by that is you guys sing to
- 21:35Speaker 4: these these ladies and you guys, these ladies desire you
- 21:38Speaker 4: when you'll get into the bedroom. Y'all can't have a
- 21:40Speaker 4: night off because it's.
- 21:41Speaker 7: Over, because you can't have it because you are R
- 21:44Speaker 7: and b s.
- 21:45Speaker 1: What you're trying to say, like you gotta put it down?
- 21:47Speaker 8: Yeah, like if you if you don't, you always it's
- 21:50Speaker 8: the pressure there for you.
- 21:52Speaker 7: Ain't no pressure for me, man, you're talking about for you,
- 21:58Speaker 7: your goddamn you ain't lady gave you some chicken wings
- 22:01Speaker 7: and set you on your way down.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Love.
- 22:02Speaker 6: Let me ask you something. You you're not an armed
- 22:04Speaker 6: you are not R and b Art, but you're celebrity,
- 22:06Speaker 6: so they play pressure for you.
- 22:08Speaker 5: It's my wife.
- 22:08Speaker 6: Oh bro, they're still pressure on my wife or something.
- 22:11Speaker 6: Well that ain't that.
- 22:13Speaker 1: I'm glad you.
- 22:18Speaker 8: Book he talks about how he didn't make his wife
- 22:20Speaker 8: all gat him for teen years.
- 22:22Speaker 6: Get the forgot his.
- 22:29Speaker 3: We made we were fifteen and sixteen.
- 22:34Speaker 2: Was broun with the joint? Was wround with the joint?
- 22:39Speaker 3: Wasn't you was wrong.
- 22:44Speaker 2: With yant work?
- 23:00Speaker 5: Think sex?
- 23:01Speaker 2: Was point?
- 23:01Speaker 4: You just gonna bank bank bank bank bank I was
- 23:03Speaker 4: sixteen years old, fifteen, he and I made it come
- 23:06Speaker 4: from my mouth, just not for.
- 23:08Speaker 3: The sock.
- 23:09Speaker 7: It wasn't working that continue a decade.
- 23:21Speaker 8: To listen anything you understand now about relationships that you
- 23:27Speaker 8: wish you knew when you was writing them Heartbreak Records.
- 23:34Speaker 7: Nah, I think I understand everything. I understood stuff back then.
- 23:37Speaker 7: But you know, like it's always wishful thinking. You know,
- 23:40Speaker 7: you know what you know, but you know, we just
- 23:42Speaker 7: have wishful thinking. We hope that when we get into
- 23:45Speaker 7: something that's gonna be you know, perfect, but that ain't
- 23:48Speaker 7: nothing perfect, So you know what I'm saying. So the
- 23:50Speaker 7: things I felt that it could be ends up being
- 23:53Speaker 7: that way, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:54Speaker 6: So we all have wishful thinking.
- 23:55Speaker 7: We all want certain things to be amazing and and
- 23:59Speaker 7: and great. That's why I said make it last forever,
- 24:02Speaker 7: because that's wishful thinking. That's what make it last forever
- 24:05Speaker 7: was about wishful thinking. We want everything to last forever.
- 24:08Speaker 7: But though it's just not that way, you know what
- 24:11Speaker 7: I'm saying, Things just gonna you know, you're gonna have
- 24:14Speaker 7: bumps in the road, and anything you do in life
- 24:17Speaker 7: there's gonna be some bumps.
- 24:18Speaker 6: In the road.
- 24:19Speaker 8: I like what you was explaining earlier though, because you
- 24:20Speaker 8: were kind of explaining how to make it last forever,
- 24:23Speaker 8: meaning that when you go through those bumps in the road,
- 24:25Speaker 8: that don't mean give up, that don't mean quit if
- 24:28Speaker 8: you really love this person, like listen right, you know
- 24:30Speaker 8: what I'm saying that you not, It doesn't make you
- 24:32Speaker 8: a sucker when you when you love someone on on on,
- 24:37Speaker 8: neither the win or the woman that'll make you whack
- 24:40Speaker 8: for trying to fix what you what you love or
- 24:44Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying that I think it's whack
- 24:46Speaker 8: if you walk away from something and you love it,
- 24:48Speaker 8: because sometimes people just try to be hard.
- 24:51Speaker 6: Oh I don't need you, I don't want you. I
- 24:53Speaker 6: can go find me something else, somewhere else.
- 24:55Speaker 7: And you know, you at that point, you're fooling yourself
- 24:59Speaker 7: because you're gonna run and like I said, you're gonna
- 25:01Speaker 7: run into the same baggage somewhere else. So you know
- 25:04Speaker 7: that's why I said, I hate to start all over
- 25:07Speaker 7: because it's like you gotta date again, you gotta start
- 25:11Speaker 7: just doing all the and sometimes you know, when we
- 25:15Speaker 7: get older, we just be like, man, I ain't trying
- 25:16Speaker 7: to do all that. I mean, as you get older,
- 25:19Speaker 7: you ain't trying to do all the same hit you
- 25:21Speaker 7: was doing before. I don't want to do all that, man,
- 25:23Speaker 7: I'm not doing all that, So you try to balance
- 25:26Speaker 7: everything else else because like for me, I'm too busy
- 25:30Speaker 7: working on too many other things to keep like like,
- 25:33Speaker 7: y'all right, you know what I'm saying.
- 25:35Speaker 6: We all business people were trying to grow.
- 25:38Speaker 7: No matter what we do, We're trying to grow and
- 25:40Speaker 7: keep growing and keep moving right, and we ain't got
- 25:42Speaker 7: time for the bullshit. So that's what you're bringing to me.
- 25:46Speaker 7: Just stay where you at, Let me stay where I'm at.
- 25:48Speaker 7: If you want to work things out, let's come on,
- 25:50Speaker 7: work things out and help me and help me create me,
- 25:53Speaker 7: and let me help you create you, and let's build together.
- 25:55Speaker 6: That's my whole point in life.
- 25:57Speaker 4: Is anything you're still trying to prove right you mentioned
- 25:59Speaker 4: you didn't get it be to your ward? No, Grammy,
- 26:02Speaker 4: is there anything that you want or you're just right now?
- 26:04Speaker 4: It's all like I'm just having a good time before.
- 26:06Speaker 7: Right now, I'm just God is good and I'm just
- 26:09Speaker 7: happy that I've Like like when I grew, I grew
- 26:13Speaker 7: up in the Grand you know, and I grew up
- 26:14Speaker 7: in the projects Hall on Grand Product on the twenty
- 26:16Speaker 7: fifth street.
- 26:16Speaker 6: More onto I namn.
- 26:17Speaker 7: So that like for me to even be where I'm
- 26:21Speaker 7: somewhere where I never thought I would ever be, never
- 26:25Speaker 7: had an idea, you know, all my dreams from me
- 26:28Speaker 7: walking down the street watching old Jay's on the you know,
- 26:32Speaker 7: at the parlor, on the parlor night the Marquis, all
- 26:35Speaker 7: the people Teddy saying, damn, maybe one day I'll be there.
- 26:39Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 26:40Speaker 7: And to have accomplished that and more than ever I
- 26:44Speaker 7: thought I would ever accomplished, you know, to me, you know,
- 26:47Speaker 7: I've gotten my heart's desire, and you know what I'm saying,
- 26:51Speaker 7: I got more than what because there's a lot of
- 26:53Speaker 7: people that will never ever get their heart desire, things
- 26:57Speaker 7: they dreaming about their life. So I think we're blessed,
- 27:02Speaker 7: you know, for all those that have gotten certain things
- 27:04Speaker 7: in life. We're definitely blessed to have been able to
- 27:07Speaker 7: get build and get what a lot of things out
- 27:09Speaker 7: of life that most people will never get.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I think about like a bt
- 27:14Speaker 1: on a Teddy.
- 27:15Speaker 8: Riley, like that was maybe ten years ago, now right,
- 27:17Speaker 8: they got to do that for you because if you
- 27:19Speaker 8: want to do a new Jack Swing tribute, definitely what.
- 27:26Speaker 7: Because you know I don't want it if I haven't
- 27:29Speaker 7: got listen, I'm funny.
- 27:32Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all gotta understand how funny I am.
- 27:34Speaker 7: My attitude in life is give it to me when
- 27:37Speaker 7: I deserve it.
- 27:39Speaker 6: Hold up, Hold up, hold hold up, hold on.
- 27:41Speaker 7: This is I've had more hazards further of all, if
- 27:46Speaker 7: you don't give it to me when after that, like
- 27:48Speaker 7: I told my daughter, if God forbid, I'll leave here
- 27:49Speaker 7: today tomorrow, you bet not take no award they try
- 27:53Speaker 7: to give you now because you know, like my attitude
- 27:56Speaker 7: is this right, you know, don't try to give me
- 27:58Speaker 7: my fliers when I'm not here. And then like I
- 28:01Speaker 7: be seeing them do that to people, and I'm like, yo,
- 28:02Speaker 7: you never really acknowledged them like that when they was
- 28:05Speaker 7: head Come on, I don't want that bullshit.
- 28:08Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 28:09Speaker 7: It's like I'm the man that I am. You know,
- 28:11Speaker 7: I'll teach you my kids to be the same way.
- 28:13Speaker 7: You know, be proud men, don't be take a hand out.
- 28:16Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Don't give it to me
- 28:18Speaker 7: because now you want to make this big thing and
- 28:21Speaker 7: you want people to come and acknowledge it. Man, that's
- 28:24Speaker 7: for the networks and the fuck that shit.
- 28:27Speaker 6: I know, and that's not me.
- 28:29Speaker 9: But you don't think that it adds, like just education
- 28:32Speaker 9: around your legacy, because there are a lot of people
- 28:33Speaker 9: who don't know your role in the New Jackson.
- 28:35Speaker 7: In my own documentary and put my own shit out
- 28:38Speaker 7: and they know you're fluid though I don't need to do,
- 28:42Speaker 7: you know, because I can. I got my money to
- 28:44Speaker 7: do my own doc eight nine ten episodes if I
- 28:49Speaker 7: want to do it, put it all together, and that's
- 28:53Speaker 7: what I do now, you know what, I'm saying that
- 28:56Speaker 7: you won't buy this and I own the car on it,
- 29:01Speaker 7: you know what, and saying that's how, that's how you
- 29:03Speaker 7: do things today. I'm not gonna do that. That's why
- 29:07Speaker 7: I never did Sung and none of the other stuff,
- 29:09Speaker 7: right because I'm not going to let you have my
- 29:12Speaker 7: thing and show it at any time you want to
- 29:14Speaker 7: show me.
- 29:15Speaker 6: This is no. You can't do that to me.
- 29:17Speaker 7: So I'll do mine, sell it to you, and then
- 29:20Speaker 7: I'll tell you when I want you to show that.
- 29:21Speaker 6: Then when I want you to stop show to tell
- 29:24Speaker 6: your story.
- 29:25Speaker 7: Yeah, because half the people, the stories that are told
- 29:27Speaker 7: are not real story, They're not true.
- 29:29Speaker 6: You know.
- 29:30Speaker 7: They leave a lot of tape on the floor, and
- 29:31Speaker 7: we want to show the next what we want to show.
- 29:33Speaker 6: What they want to show. You fabricate and I don't
- 29:35Speaker 6: want that. You know, you can't fabricate things, you know.
- 29:38Speaker 7: I mean, it's just like everybody said the new jack
- 29:40Speaker 7: Swings started on my first album.
- 29:43Speaker 6: No, it did not start on my first album.
- 29:45Speaker 7: I was with Suitra Records, Mars Levy Adam Levey when
- 29:49Speaker 7: they had the Fat Boys.
- 29:50Speaker 6: I was producing the Sutra Records back in the day.
- 29:53Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I had got two records
- 29:54Speaker 6: on the end of at All.
- 29:55Speaker 7: I wanted my baby my mind right, I was with
- 29:58Speaker 7: Tony Lopez.
- 29:59Speaker 6: But Q, you know what I'm saying. Back in the
- 30:01Speaker 6: day on Hunt.
- 30:02Speaker 7: Sixty fifth Street and Woody Crest Avenue in the Bronx.
- 30:05Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So my legacy extends the y'all,
- 30:09Speaker 6: y'all just know the make It Last for Ever party.
- 30:12Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 30:13Speaker 7: For me hanging on ninety fifth Street and Columbus Avenue,
- 30:16Speaker 7: going to sell a restaurant.
- 30:17Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and all that type of stuff.
- 30:19Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. It when't uh Erl Monroe
- 30:23Speaker 6: used to come.
- 30:23Speaker 7: To Sickly fish Woody Crest Avenue to see me because
- 30:27Speaker 7: he had pretty pearl records all that type of stuff.
- 30:29Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. People don't know about all
- 30:31Speaker 7: that stuff. So that was way before I wanna. So
- 30:35Speaker 7: that's what I'm saying. You know, It's like it didn't
- 30:37Speaker 7: start with people thinking. Don't Stop Your Love was my
- 30:42Speaker 7: first song. That's what I got my deal on don't
- 30:45Speaker 7: Stop your Love. It wasn't on I wanted. It was
- 30:47Speaker 7: on don't Stop your Love, So you know, and Benson
- 30:50Speaker 7: Davis gave me the deal with entertainment, and that's where
- 30:53Speaker 7: it all started.
- 30:55Speaker 8: That's why I want to see your story told because
- 30:57Speaker 8: if you can't, I love Teddy, but Teddy can't all
- 31:00Speaker 8: the credit for creating New Jack Swing, not with ill
- 31:02Speaker 8: Keith sweat Well.
- 31:03Speaker 7: Teddy will tell everybody, and that's my man. Is that
- 31:06Speaker 7: what happened is when I got my deal, but don't
- 31:09Speaker 7: stop it up. I'm the one that went to Teddy
- 31:12Speaker 7: and told Teddy, y'all I need I got to deal
- 31:14Speaker 7: with the lecturer and I wanted you to come on
- 31:16Speaker 7: and work without me, because he was with this group
- 31:19Speaker 7: called Kids at Work, if you remember, and I was.
- 31:22Speaker 7: We would do the Chitlin circuit in New York. We
- 31:24Speaker 7: would do the Red Parrot mark for all them smallst parents.
- 31:29Speaker 7: I saw all them clubs in Harlem and that I
- 31:32Speaker 7: had a group called Jamila Kinky and uh the name
- 31:38Speaker 7: was in Kinky foss uh uh I just got paid
- 31:42Speaker 7: Mann Kent was in uh see because I wrote just
- 31:48Speaker 7: got paid with Teddy, you know what I'm saying. But
- 31:51Speaker 7: I never got credit for it, so you know, it's
- 31:55Speaker 7: just a whole other thing. You know what I'm saying,
- 31:56Speaker 7: because I'm the one that ran that. Johnny Chimis say yo,
- 31:58Speaker 7: because Jess got paid with was going my first album
- 32:01Speaker 7: and we missed the time frame of it because we
- 32:05Speaker 7: had to handle the credits in so it was sitting
- 32:08Speaker 7: with Teddy that whole time, and Johnny went over there
- 32:11Speaker 7: and recorded it and then you know, that's exactly what happened.
- 32:13Speaker 6: But that's that's hell.
- 32:14Speaker 8: There there was there was some You applied a little
- 32:17Speaker 8: bit of pressure to Teddy for that too, when you
- 32:18Speaker 8: because you heard the record on the radio.
- 32:21Speaker 7: So the story, now, I applied a little pressure to
- 32:23Speaker 7: Johnny kemp Uh, you know, god rest is soul. I
- 32:27Speaker 7: applied some pressure to that, and you know and Jane Griffin, Jane.
- 32:32Speaker 6: Griffin, that's what.
- 32:35Speaker 5: Look at his face, man.
- 32:38Speaker 6: Yep.
- 32:38Speaker 1: So the record sounds just like you though.
- 32:40Speaker 5: You can tell.
- 32:42Speaker 7: Yeah, So you know that's where the pressure got. But
- 32:45Speaker 7: I just but I left it alone because you know,
- 32:48Speaker 7: it's just like because I you know, then it went
- 32:50Speaker 7: on for more. It just kept going going on. And
- 32:53Speaker 7: then because Let's Chill was supposed to be the song
- 32:55Speaker 7: I did. Then meet Teddy and butnar Bell wrote Let's
- 32:58Speaker 7: Chill Together, and that was was going to the That
- 33:01Speaker 7: was the song that I was supposed to do a
- 33:03Speaker 7: New Jack City, and you know I didn't. It didn't happen.
- 33:08Speaker 7: And you know that's how I ended up singing there
- 33:10Speaker 7: you go telling me know again, I would I be
- 33:12Speaker 7: singing there you go telling me no at the wedding thing.
- 33:14Speaker 7: And then because I had to have it, See the
- 33:17Speaker 7: song was supposed to be ready that next day.
- 33:19Speaker 6: I had to have it.
- 33:20Speaker 7: For the wedding scene. Very bad people said, yo, we
- 33:24Speaker 7: you know, we gotta have a song. If you're gonna
- 33:26Speaker 7: be in the thing, you gotta have a song. So
- 33:27Speaker 7: I had to go and right there you go telling
- 33:29Speaker 7: me know again that same night before I shot that
- 33:32Speaker 7: scene in Branston at Grandstone. So that's where there you
- 33:36Speaker 7: go telling me no. Came in because I couldn't think
- 33:37Speaker 7: of nothing else. But there you go tell me no,
- 33:40Speaker 7: we're gonna get y'all at Wow. That's how that came about.
- 33:44Speaker 4: I was asking, so if bt the Grammy is any
- 33:46Speaker 4: of those organizations come out.
- 33:48Speaker 5: I said, we want to do something.
- 33:49Speaker 4: For you, You're gonna say no, Wow, Damn.
- 33:56Speaker 6: I would.
- 33:59Speaker 5: I would love.
- 34:00Speaker 6: Look where I'm at. I got my flowers. I'm well, I'm.
- 34:04Speaker 7: Like like like everybody, the thing is different everybody. You
- 34:11Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, That don't that's not gonna make
- 34:13Speaker 7: take my legacy away. Me not having that, that's not
- 34:16Speaker 7: gonna do nothing less for me. They ain't gonna they
- 34:19Speaker 7: ain't gonna give me no more money. You know what
- 34:22Speaker 7: I'm saying.
- 34:22Speaker 6: So what is it gonna do is? Oh, it's just
- 34:25Speaker 6: now I don't care. Man. I used to care. It
- 34:27Speaker 6: used to borrow me. I'm gonna tell you the truth.
- 34:29Speaker 6: It used to bother me.
- 34:30Speaker 7: It's just like when when you know they took the
- 34:35Speaker 7: what was it the American Music Award for me the
- 34:37Speaker 7: first time or something like that, and gave it to
- 34:39Speaker 7: George Michael or whatever for the Best Army Album, and
- 34:42Speaker 7: I got I was halfway out of my sleep best
- 34:44Speaker 7: I'm mean George, like I said, my samp myself. So
- 34:48Speaker 7: it's like, but but that was the only one that
- 34:51Speaker 7: really ever acknowledged me and gave me was American Music Award.
- 34:56Speaker 7: That was my first real big award, American Music Award.
- 35:00Speaker 7: So it's like, so when I got that, I'm like, yo, dag,
- 35:03Speaker 7: I ain't get a bat And I never got a
- 35:06Speaker 7: Soul Training ward when Don Conaius was with it.
- 35:08Speaker 6: What never, that's crazy Paxicing Baker gave me.
- 35:13Speaker 7: I never got a but Paxing Baker realized I never
- 35:16Speaker 7: got a Soul Train award and gave me a Lifetime
- 35:18Speaker 7: Achievement Award on the second Soul Train.
- 35:23Speaker 6: So never got a Soul Train.
- 35:24Speaker 1: I'm sitting there trying to think, who the hell wasn't
- 35:25Speaker 1: given award?
- 35:26Speaker 6: Student, man, I.
- 35:28Speaker 7: Never got a Soul Training but I'm like, hold on,
- 35:30Speaker 7: wait a minute, I never get a soul.
- 35:33Speaker 6: I can't even get on the train.
- 35:41Speaker 2: So I can't even get on so train man.
- 35:45Speaker 6: So that's why you like that.
- 35:46Speaker 7: That's why I'm like that. It's like I'm not playing politics.
- 35:49Speaker 7: I'm not playing the political game because the game is.
- 35:52Speaker 7: I don't feel like playing the game. I don't feel it,
- 35:54Speaker 7: like if my music don't say what it says or
- 35:57Speaker 7: say that.
- 35:57Speaker 6: Yo.
- 35:59Speaker 7: This is like, I know everybody know who keeps I
- 36:02Speaker 7: went to the next game last night. I know everybody
- 36:05Speaker 7: know who keeps sweat? Is you know, just walking in
- 36:08Speaker 7: his spike? Alan Houston all the help?
- 36:10Speaker 2: What's up?
- 36:10Speaker 6: Baby? You know? You know t Lou, you know all that?
- 36:13Speaker 6: What's up? You know? Hanging Drake said he the light
- 36:16Speaker 6: skin keeps sweat.
- 36:16Speaker 1: He said that years ago.
- 36:18Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm the dark Skins.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Have y'all ever hooked up the door record?
- 36:25Speaker 5: Did y'all y'all ever reach out speak to each other?
- 36:26Speaker 6: No, That's why I'm in the hotel.
- 36:29Speaker 10: Mm hmm.
- 36:30Speaker 5: Did he try? Did you try? Or now y'all just
- 36:32Speaker 5: didn't have that conversation.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Did he speak to you?
- 36:38Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 36:38Speaker 7: When I first met him, he was he was excited
- 36:41Speaker 7: to meet me, But as time went on, he became
- 36:44Speaker 7: he was Drake.
- 36:46Speaker 9: Yeah, so the interaction wasn't good or.
- 36:49Speaker 6: No it yeah, it was good.
- 36:51Speaker 7: It was good, you know me, I just I'm just
- 36:54Speaker 7: like you know, it was good. You know he never
- 36:58Speaker 7: we never we we It's always been and cool with
- 37:01Speaker 7: us me you know, running into it. Just there's never
- 37:04Speaker 7: been no I don't fuck with you or you don't
- 37:06Speaker 7: fuck with me type of ship.
- 37:07Speaker 6: I don't do that.
- 37:09Speaker 8: I'm glad I cut closest on this tour. Why isn't
- 37:11Speaker 8: Silk on this tour? You rolle too many hits.
- 37:13Speaker 6: For Silk, Mary go around?
- 37:21Speaker 7: Now, it's because I tried to make it happen as
- 37:26Speaker 7: recently as last week. But you know, when you when
- 37:31Speaker 7: you're doing shows, right, there's only but so much money.
- 37:36Speaker 7: And the thing, you know, because you got production in licening,
- 37:39Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And you know, like I
- 37:44Speaker 7: gave up a lot, a lot of my money to
- 37:46Speaker 7: make it happen with cut close and certain. You know,
- 37:49Speaker 7: I gave up certain things. You know when I do shows,
- 37:52Speaker 7: I look at the branding of the show. I'm not
- 37:56Speaker 7: if it's me, if it's about me putting all the
- 37:58Speaker 7: money in my pocket, but the show is gonna be
- 38:00Speaker 7: I won't do it. So I try to make it
- 38:03Speaker 7: with the show is good for the public because now
- 38:06Speaker 7: in the temperature.
- 38:07Speaker 6: We're in, in the.
- 38:09Speaker 7: In the in the world and in this time and
- 38:11Speaker 7: people losing their jobs or whatever, and I gotta tell people,
- 38:14Speaker 7: I say, you can't charge as much for the ticket
- 38:17Speaker 7: price because you know, and you got so many two
- 38:19Speaker 7: us so you gotta have the ticket price has to
- 38:21Speaker 7: be at the right price because everybody can't afford those
- 38:25Speaker 7: high prices right now because so they want to see
- 38:28Speaker 7: the show, it's got to be at a price. So
- 38:30Speaker 7: that means the artist prices has to come down to
- 38:34Speaker 7: make sense if you want to tour, right, Some people
- 38:39Speaker 7: get it, some people don't.
- 38:40Speaker 6: Until didn't get that.
- 38:42Speaker 7: I'm not saying, but they five guys, so I can
- 38:44Speaker 7: understand that. You know, you gotta split the money five ways,
- 38:48Speaker 7: you know, and so the money has to be a
- 38:52Speaker 7: little more for somebody who.
- 38:54Speaker 6: Got to split the money five way.
- 38:56Speaker 7: I realized that when I did LSG, I wasn't swear
- 39:01Speaker 7: your money go get cut three ways, you know what
- 39:04Speaker 7: I'm saying.
- 39:04Speaker 6: And then when I started touring, I'm like, hold on,
- 39:06Speaker 6: wait a minute, man, look at my money. I'm going
- 39:10Speaker 6: out by myself, so that type of thing.
- 39:13Speaker 7: So I was disappointed it didn't happen, but I'm understanding
- 39:21Speaker 7: that you gotta spend the money five ways. So my
- 39:24Speaker 7: money is just me and I make a lot more
- 39:28Speaker 7: than I back in the day when I hit it.
- 39:30Speaker 7: But I'm not giving up all my money because you're
- 39:33Speaker 7: spending five ways.
- 39:34Speaker 6: I can't do it, you know what I'm saying.
- 39:35Speaker 9: I heard you say you're going to give up some
- 39:37Speaker 9: of it though, so that cut close can be good.
- 39:39Speaker 9: There's sometimes these conversations about you and cut close and
- 39:43Speaker 9: like your relationship being a little bit rocky, but it
- 39:46Speaker 9: sounds like you know you're taking care of them, right
- 39:48Speaker 9: so when you okay.
- 39:49Speaker 7: I don't listen when it comes to people relationships being rocky.
- 39:53Speaker 7: I hears things and you know what I'm saying, It's
- 39:56Speaker 7: my truth, they truth and the real truth, right like,
- 40:00Speaker 7: And I say this to still cut closer to anybody else.
- 40:04Speaker 7: I always tell people if you think I did something
- 40:06Speaker 7: from you, I'll pay for my lawyer to open my books.
- 40:09Speaker 6: You go look at my books and I'll pay for it.
- 40:12Speaker 6: People have heard me say that.
- 40:14Speaker 7: I've told Tady that I tell that Hey, I'll tell
- 40:18Speaker 7: you what you think I took something from you. I'm
- 40:22Speaker 7: gonna call my lawyer. You can look through whatever you
- 40:24Speaker 7: want and I'll pay for it.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Now.
- 40:26Speaker 7: If you don't find nothing, you're gonna pay that money back.
- 40:32Speaker 7: So really it's like to me, it's like, Okay, I'm
- 40:36Speaker 7: gonna pay my lawyer. But made over Ukay, you got
- 40:39Speaker 7: to take time. You gotta find things. Go ahead, find it,
- 40:42Speaker 7: look through it.
- 40:42Speaker 6: Now. If you find something, then you got a point.
- 40:46Speaker 7: But if you don't find nothing, why should I pay
- 40:48Speaker 7: for you to find and you don't find nothing?
- 40:50Speaker 6: Right, you gotta pay that back? Am I right? Wrong?
- 40:55Speaker 6: That makes sense? Right, you know what I'm saying. So
- 40:58Speaker 6: so I tell anybody.
- 41:00Speaker 7: But when but cut Close was signed to a production company,
- 41:03Speaker 7: they weren't signed directly to me, so that the production
- 41:08Speaker 7: company gets everything and they got to pay their artists.
- 41:14Speaker 7: So it's never a direct thing because I didn't they were.
- 41:19Speaker 7: They were brought to me by someone else, right, So
- 41:23Speaker 7: when they said that's not that wasn't a deal I
- 41:26Speaker 7: put together. That was the deal the production company put together.
- 41:30Speaker 7: Because it's like, if anybody signed to a production company,
- 41:33Speaker 7: you know how that works. The production company is basically
- 41:36Speaker 7: the artist and you sign to pay the production company,
- 41:40Speaker 7: and the production company don't pay the artists. That's not you.
- 41:43Speaker 7: You have nothing to do with that. That's not that's
- 41:46Speaker 7: not your yo, yo fault. That's why it was only
- 41:50Speaker 7: one album done. I believe you know so. But you know,
- 41:54Speaker 7: I you know, I still, you know, love the hell
- 41:58Speaker 7: out of them girls, and I'm that's why I'm taking
- 42:00Speaker 7: them on to it. I don't have to take them
- 42:02Speaker 7: on to it with me, but I want to take
- 42:04Speaker 7: them onto it number one. I want to take them
- 42:06Speaker 7: because I think that's what the fans want to see.
- 42:09Speaker 7: And you know, everything you see is keyswet when there
- 42:11Speaker 7: was a whole ara of Key sweat cutcos Key sweat
- 42:13Speaker 7: cutcos Get swet cut Coast. So I'm doing that because
- 42:17Speaker 7: of the fans. Now, I'm gonna make it work if
- 42:22Speaker 7: they have issue, because I've been blessed to be in
- 42:25Speaker 7: a position with I can make it work, you know
- 42:28Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So I'm definitely gonna look after them
- 42:31Speaker 7: at this point, you know what I'm saying, because it's
- 42:33Speaker 7: like it's my it's my responsibility.
- 42:36Speaker 6: I feel to do that. That's why I'm taking them
- 42:38Speaker 6: on the road.
- 42:38Speaker 9: That's why hearing from you it's so important though, because
- 42:40Speaker 9: like they even like there's like the dollar publishing story,
- 42:43Speaker 9: there's the sophomore album was supposed to come out. They
- 42:45Speaker 9: thought a lot of what doesn't happen or didn't happen
- 42:47Speaker 9: for cut close on you. But to hear that there
- 42:50Speaker 9: it was somebody the production company that was also involved.
- 42:53Speaker 9: And not just keep sweat, but your name gets.
- 42:55Speaker 7: I don't even know nothing about a dollar, you know.
- 42:58Speaker 7: I say what that come from? Because I don't some
- 43:01Speaker 7: of them them bullshit that stories. Why would I pay
- 43:05Speaker 7: it like that, that's so beneath a person like like,
- 43:09Speaker 7: that's not even my my pedigree, you know what I'm saying.
- 43:13Speaker 7: So when I like sometimes when I hear things, I
- 43:16Speaker 7: laugh because that's not even my pedigree, you know what
- 43:18Speaker 7: I'm saying. Because when I see people that's going to
- 43:21Speaker 7: have a problem, I go with my pocketing just head
- 43:23Speaker 7: in the back. I said, Yo, can I bow some money?
- 43:26Speaker 7: I know you can't, and you ask them for a thousands.
- 43:28Speaker 7: I know you can't pay it back, man. That's what
- 43:30Speaker 7: I'm giving you this to you because I know you
- 43:33Speaker 7: can't give it back because you ain't even got it
- 43:35Speaker 7: to give it back. So you know what I'm saying,
- 43:36Speaker 7: it's gonna put you back in the hole if I'm
- 43:38Speaker 7: looking for it. Right, That's what I do with a
- 43:40Speaker 7: lot of my friends who are my friends, to be
- 43:41Speaker 7: honest with you, right, So I'm not not even a
- 43:44Speaker 7: dollar come on that.
- 43:45Speaker 6: That's not even real.
- 43:47Speaker 7: That's not real enough because if somebody did that to me,
- 43:50Speaker 7: I would never talk to their ass.
- 43:54Speaker 9: For people that are listening that don't know what he's
- 43:56Speaker 9: talking about, the story was that cut close sign they're
- 43:58Speaker 9: publishing away for a dollar? Just don't want to mention
- 44:01Speaker 9: some people don't know what the story is that we're
- 44:03Speaker 9: talking about.
- 44:04Speaker 7: I wouldn't take nobody publishing for a dollar. I don't
- 44:07Speaker 7: think nobody would sell it for a dollar. Thank you.
- 44:10Speaker 7: You got to sell your publishing to me, right, Okay,
- 44:14Speaker 7: I can't force you to sell you So how can
- 44:17Speaker 7: I get take your publishing for a dollar? How can
- 44:20Speaker 7: I buy your publishing for a dollar because somebody would
- 44:22Speaker 7: have had to so that doesn't even make common sense, Like,
- 44:28Speaker 7: you know, nobody's going to say, yo, here's a dollar.
- 44:32Speaker 6: I'm here's a dollar.
- 44:33Speaker 7: Let me give you have your publisher who's gonna do that,
- 44:36Speaker 7: so that I'm telling you it was of a dozen
- 44:39Speaker 7: company signed them to me.
- 44:41Speaker 6: Now, if somebody lying.
- 44:43Speaker 7: Says we gave you key sweat your publishing for a dollar,
- 44:47Speaker 7: then they made it, go check them niggas. You know
- 44:49Speaker 7: what I'm saying because of a damn lie like that
- 44:53Speaker 7: is like I need to go to hell and burn
- 44:54Speaker 7: like motherfucker if that's true.
- 44:55Speaker 6: Damn and I'm telling.
- 44:59Speaker 7: The truth, That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying,
- 45:00Speaker 7: because that is so fucking whacked me. It was up
- 45:04Speaker 7: for somebody to do something like that, that's like me
- 45:06Speaker 7: having a problem with it. Why would I had issues
- 45:08Speaker 7: with people in the past on my my music. Matter
- 45:11Speaker 7: of fact, I'm having issues right now that I'm hiring
- 45:14Speaker 7: like two or three lawyers to go at certain people
- 45:16Speaker 7: right now where it is millions and millions and millions
- 45:20Speaker 7: of dollars at steak on my ship right so my
- 45:24Speaker 7: masters in all kinds of shit, right, So I know
- 45:27Speaker 7: I'm gonna get that ass. You know what I'm saying.
- 45:29Speaker 7: I'm putting it out there for though. I know I'm
- 45:31Speaker 7: gonna get that ass.
- 45:32Speaker 6: So you might as well be Jason, what made you
- 45:40Speaker 6: want to do afrobeats. It's the it's the new arm b. Yeah.
- 45:45Speaker 6: I called it new Army because it's so so for the.
- 45:47Speaker 1: Energy I just came from cap to I agree.
- 45:50Speaker 6: The energy is the feeling.
- 46:02Speaker 5: It's smooth.
- 46:03Speaker 1: What made you want to do radio?
- 46:04Speaker 8: And you got your radio show so long ago doing
- 46:06Speaker 8: that for yeah, but what made you want to do radio?
- 46:09Speaker 6: I don't know winners.
- 46:13Speaker 7: Now it's like he's just like he said, Yo, let's
- 46:16Speaker 7: I said, let's do radio. I just did radio because
- 46:19Speaker 7: it was like the next thing, that my next move.
- 46:23Speaker 7: Everything is the next move, like you know, like executive
- 46:27Speaker 7: produce some movies. All the ship I do is my
- 46:29Speaker 7: next move, my next one. What's my next move? You
- 46:31Speaker 7: know what I'm saying that type of stuff. So I'll
- 46:34Speaker 7: be on that next move thing, you know what I'm saying.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Got a candle line platinum?
- 46:38Speaker 7: Want to smell like freak me? You could put it on.
- 46:41Speaker 7: You want to smell like make it last?
- 46:43Speaker 6: For it on now?
- 46:45Speaker 7: Because the candle line is a different sense. What do
- 46:48Speaker 7: I got my candles? You mean you came here with
- 46:51Speaker 7: all kind of bag. Don't worry about it, don't worry
- 46:53Speaker 7: about sleep, don't nothing come to sleep with dreams so.
- 46:59Speaker 2: Chief.
- 47:00Speaker 1: It smells good, even in the box and smelled good.
- 47:04Speaker 1: I'm a candle guy. You're just gonna come and get candles.
- 47:06Speaker 10: Just one one sign?
- 47:07Speaker 6: What that candle say?
- 47:09Speaker 8: This one says candles by Keith, Make it last forever.
- 47:13Speaker 8: This one is I give all my love to you.
- 47:15Speaker 8: This one is twisted.
- 47:16Speaker 6: God, Damn they smell amazing.
- 47:18Speaker 10: Damn I want one. You'll got three candles and piece.
- 47:20Speaker 10: I want one, but they gave me one.
- 47:21Speaker 6: When you're gonna be in Atlanta, man boys, Atlanta?
- 47:24Speaker 7: Okay, well you need to come to my house and
- 47:25Speaker 7: get your bag there.
- 47:28Speaker 2: Yes, Keith, I like this.
- 47:32Speaker 9: Out and about in Atlanta. There was a video that
- 47:33Speaker 9: went brow you singing. I think it was like a
- 47:35Speaker 9: karaoke night or something like that.
- 47:37Speaker 6: Pleasure he made me come there.
- 47:38Speaker 7: You were just I don't know what kind of bag
- 47:41Speaker 7: you specially because I want to tell you he gave
- 47:43Speaker 7: on the brown skin dogs.
- 47:44Speaker 5: And people in here.
- 47:46Speaker 7: That's wrong with what's wrong with that?
- 47:50Speaker 6: They told me you overs in Atlanta. I can over
- 47:52Speaker 6: night your bad.
- 47:53Speaker 5: I just messing with you.
- 47:55Speaker 7: You better bring in your hands Alan and come to
- 47:56Speaker 7: my house and you can pick what everyone you want.
- 47:58Speaker 5: I am that's fine, A right bag.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Don't worry.
- 48:01Speaker 5: Come, I'm calling you later on for something else.
- 48:03Speaker 6: What you called me?
- 48:04Speaker 4: I said, you leave a comment on my daughter's a
- 48:06Speaker 4: page that she get married. Made last ever, I got
- 48:09Speaker 4: the garment that you did.
- 48:10Speaker 6: No, I didn't need no ship.
- 48:11Speaker 11: Okay, man, not like you acted like you. Yeah, you.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Know what you want? Your song said you said, yeah man.
- 48:49Speaker 6: I said ship.
- 48:52Speaker 11: Yo.
- 48:52Speaker 5: That is for your kicksque going out on to a
- 48:55Speaker 5: thirty city to kick it off on the thirty February.
- 48:58Speaker 7: That's Valentine's Keep sweat dot Com for the candles and
- 49:02Speaker 7: the bags.
- 49:03Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 49:03Speaker 7: They you know, yeah, don't.
- 49:12Speaker 6: And the can keep sweat dot Com.
- 49:13Speaker 7: You know candles by Keith, Candles, back keep Platinum status,
- 49:18Speaker 7: bags great, great quality, Kelly Closon, Kelly Clarkson got hers.
- 49:24Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Spike League got his.
- 49:26Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying.
- 49:28Speaker 6: You won't see it. The Zipper works got where do
- 49:38Speaker 6: they get the ticket from?
- 49:39Speaker 5: The Matt Black?
- 49:41Speaker 2: That is fine? Look at that, so you're gonna see it.
- 49:49Speaker 6: Hold up, I want to show it. Hold up. Backpack
- 49:54Speaker 6: comes off Okay, you know what I'm saying.
- 50:00Speaker 1: Got something you can use that as like a little.
- 50:04Speaker 9: Don't put none on that.
- 50:06Speaker 5: Everything that's right.
- 50:07Speaker 6: It got of pockets, you know what I'm saying. Look
- 50:10Speaker 6: that's clean, that's right. You know what I'm saying.
- 50:12Speaker 7: But you know it comes in to Okay, you're funny.
- 50:22Speaker 5: Get your tickets.
- 50:23Speaker 1: Your tickets, guys, I like that too.
- 50:27Speaker 8: Dot Com everything Onna keeps what dot com appreciate you keep.
- 50:31Speaker 6: Always a pleasure.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Mom.
- 50:32Speaker 5: That's right.
- 50:33Speaker 3: Make sure you get your tickets, your candles and your bags.
- 50:36Speaker 5: It's the breakfast club.
- 50:37Speaker 7: And when he comes to my house, you get his.
- 50:40Speaker 7: And ain't I didn't hit up on make it last bad,
- 50:43Speaker 7: but boy, that was scary to me.
- 50:48Speaker 6: The wedding.
- 50:48Speaker 5: It's the breakfast club.
- 50:52Speaker 6: Every day a week.
- 50:53Speaker 2: Click yours up the breakfast Club.
- 50:56Speaker 6: Finish for y'all. Done