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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 5-13-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Pardon me, all right, So midweek, we've got a fun
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  Speaker 2: one lined up for you. Today, Freddy Coleman is going
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  Speaker 2: to Jonahs join us. Freddie is one of the best
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  Speaker 2: voices in the entire sports radio game, and we'll have
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  Speaker 2: a lot to discuss with him. The NBA Playoffs, the
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  Speaker 2: NFL schedule release coming up, the international games being leaked
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  Speaker 2: out there as the NFL really is trying to push
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  Speaker 2: its product beyond the American borders, beyond the North American borders.
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  Speaker 3: It's big in Mexico, it's big in Canada.
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  Speaker 2: But man, there's a very concerted effort with games all
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  Speaker 2: over the planet now for the NFL to try to
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  Speaker 2: grow its global footprint. And I'm super curious to know
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  Speaker 2: if it can ever happen because we've I think we've
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  Speaker 2: done a really good job in Utah adopting hockey, loving hockey,
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  Speaker 2: or at least learning to love hockey, figuring out, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how to speak the language of hockey, gradually all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Most of us didn't grow up with hockey, at least
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  Speaker 2: not for our entire childhoods. I lived my early childhood
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  Speaker 2: in Minnesota, where hockey is religion, and then when I
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  Speaker 2: moved to Utah, it just kind of goes by the wayside, right,
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  Speaker 2: But it's been part of our sports landscape to some degree.
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  Speaker 2: You've had some vague awareness. You go back far enough,
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  Speaker 2: and there was remember that cool James. You're too young
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  Speaker 2: for this, but there was. There was a sports cartoon,
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  Speaker 2: a Saturday Morning cartoon for a brief and blessed period
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  Speaker 2: that had Michael Jordan and Bo Jackson and Wayne Gretzky
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  Speaker 2: as like sports superheroes. We had video games all throughout
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  Speaker 2: our childhood that reinforced our interest in our love of sports,
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  Speaker 2: even if we didn't play those sports. NHL ninety four
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  Speaker 2: might be the best ever sports console game. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be something you did. You didn't have to
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  Speaker 2: go skate out on the pond to have something of
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  Speaker 2: a NHL awareness.
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  Speaker 3: The NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Is well American football, and most importantly, the NFL for
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  Speaker 2: this conversation at least, is a completely foreign concept to
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  Speaker 2: countries that don't have an infrastructure of youth football, that
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  Speaker 2: don't have high school football, that don't have college football.
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  Speaker 2: It's similar to US with rugby. It's similar to us
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  Speaker 2: with cricket. It's similar. I mean, what other sports are
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  Speaker 2: the like cycling, bike racing, you know Tour de France.
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  Speaker 2: We know what that is. You don't grow up with
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  Speaker 2: it necessarily. It's huge in European countries, bike races, every weekend,
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  Speaker 2: amateur circuits.
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  Speaker 3: People actually doing it.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL and by extension, college football, the CFL is
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  Speaker 2: a new product for a massive part of the globe.
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  Speaker 2: It's a curiosity. It is Australian rules football. It is hurling,
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  Speaker 2: which is a Irish sport that most of you probably
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  Speaker 2: haven't even ever heard of or seen one lick of
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  Speaker 2: at best. It's lacrosse, which has grown rapidly in the
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  Speaker 2: United States, but for a long time was just kind
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  Speaker 2: of an East coast, southeast and northeast sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Utah is still the only school, is
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  Speaker 4: the farthest west school in the country that has a
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  Speaker 4: lacrosse program. There might have been, there might have been
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  Speaker 4: others that came up, but when, certainly when the lacrosse
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  Speaker 4: program was got started, it was the farthest west in
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  Speaker 4: the US. It was the only one besides Denver west
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  Speaker 4: of the Rockies. So yeah, definitely more of an East
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  Speaker 4: coast thing, and it's it's spread a lot more as
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  Speaker 4: as time has gone on.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see here, Stanford women have have a good lacrosse
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  Speaker 2: team now. But yeah, everything else is these I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: at the division. There's club teams all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: M c l A is the name of the organization
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  Speaker 2: that handles the club sports. So there's like a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of California schools that have those. But as far as
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  Speaker 2: men's programs go, Utah I think is the furthest west
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  Speaker 2: the D one programs. Oregon and Stanford have D one
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  Speaker 2: programs for women, and a lot of D two, D
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  Speaker 2: three programs in California out in the like the smaller
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  Speaker 2: schools University of Redlands, Pomona College, Pacific University, this kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing. Interestingly enough, California, Utah, Colorado are now considered
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  Speaker 2: recruiting hotbeds, but most of the time D one schools
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  Speaker 2: are on the East coast. So it's like, yeah, wow, congratulations,
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  Speaker 2: you got invited to go play lacrosse at North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: You got to be part of Wake Forest. Syracuse wants
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  Speaker 2: you to play lacrosse out on the East coast. It's
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  Speaker 2: the Western programs appear not to be much of a
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  Speaker 2: destination as of yet. But I don't want to get
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  Speaker 2: too far away from the original point here, or the
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  Speaker 2: original premise of being like, we're still at a point
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  Speaker 2: in entertainment and sports saturation market where I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't care where you go on the planet. I spend
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  Speaker 2: a lot of time traveling, as plenty of you listeners
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  Speaker 2: suffer through with me, and I appreciate you still listening
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  Speaker 2: even though you know my other job takes me away
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  Speaker 2: from the show. Sometimes when you go and you you're
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  Speaker 2: staying at a hotel in Northern Ireland or you're in Spain,
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  Speaker 2: and you flip on the television mostly out of habit
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  Speaker 2: and you scroll to whatever the sports channel is.
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  Speaker 3: Right, there's soccer on all the time.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't find soccer, you can find depending on
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  Speaker 2: where you are in the world, you can find some hockey.
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  Speaker 2: In Europe, you can find track and field. The aforementioned
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  Speaker 2: cycling is a lot bigger. You'll find volleyball contests and
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  Speaker 2: of course, these places are well populated with Amazon Prime,
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  Speaker 2: with Netflix, with movie theaters, with actual theaters. Right this
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  Speaker 2: the entertainment world is saturated with options, and the NFL
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  Speaker 2: right now is trying to add another complicated and expensive.
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  Speaker 3: One to an already crowded market.
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  Speaker 2: In Paris, Madrid, Sal Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Berlin, all
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  Speaker 2: these places that have not yet developed the same kind
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  Speaker 2: of appetite for it that of course American cities have,
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  Speaker 2: or even Canadian cities have, or even Mexican cities have.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm the growth strategy is a fascinating one because
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  Speaker 2: it's not basketball, and it's not soccer American football. Second,
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  Speaker 2: I think only to hockey requires a lot of lifting
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  Speaker 2: just to get started. Now, flag football is a different thing.
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  Speaker 2: Touch football is a different thing, but good old fashioned
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  Speaker 2: American gridiron tackle football requires not only equipment. You need
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  Speaker 2: a goal standard, right, You need uprights, which are expensive
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  Speaker 2: and not easy to find now in a pinch. Rugby
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  Speaker 2: ones work well okay if we're talking about expansion in Europe,
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  Speaker 2: but also you kind of need coaching and as wonderful
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  Speaker 2: as the internet is now and how you can go
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  Speaker 2: find all you need on YouTube you kind of need
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  Speaker 2: someone who can at least give you more than just
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  Speaker 2: the rudimentary understanding of the rules set. Right. You need
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  Speaker 2: like an introductory playbook. You need an introductory passing route tree.
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  Speaker 2: You can figure out tackling, you can figure out, well
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  Speaker 2: we want to get across this line. You know, kids
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  Speaker 2: especially are learning games, and you can say you got
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  Speaker 2: to make it ten yards and they're gonna be like,
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  Speaker 2: what's ten yards?
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  Speaker 3: Well just call it ten meters?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you got to get ten meters for the first down,
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  Speaker 2: And like they'll pick that kind of stuff, fop, and maybe.
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  Speaker 3: They'll innovate quickly.
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  Speaker 2: And as soon as you give him the basic rule set,
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  Speaker 2: you can pass the ball forward. You can't let the
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  Speaker 2: big fat guys carry the ball. You got to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that the guy on the end of the line
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  Speaker 2: of scrimmage is covered if he's I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 2: complicated rule set, as all of you know, right, and
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  Speaker 2: we've just taken it for granted that this is something
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  Speaker 2: that you know the world is going to or that
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  Speaker 2: that we adopt, that we learn almost through osmosis, through
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  Speaker 2: a long process in life, or maybe you get signed
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  Speaker 2: up from flag football, then maybe you can convince your
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  Speaker 2: parents I want to play tackle football as well when
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  Speaker 2: you're eleven years old. The NFL is taking on at
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  Speaker 2: what I think is perhaps the most ambitious thing that
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  Speaker 2: we have ever seen in sports marketing, by trying to
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  Speaker 2: sell its game, sell its products, sell its merchandise to
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  Speaker 2: a world that doesn't have a frame of reference for it.
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  Speaker 3: And the NFL has enough money to do this.
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  Speaker 2: Like I love rugby, if you try to get the
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  Speaker 2: Australian rugby leagues, or the South African professional rugby leagues,
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  Speaker 2: or even the European professional rugby leagues to come over
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  Speaker 2: here and stage these one off tours and these one
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  Speaker 2: off things, and just like bootstraps a fan base in
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  Speaker 2: the United States, they wouldn't be able to afford it.
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  Speaker 2: They do those things, right, They do those test matches,
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  Speaker 2: they do those exhibitions in the United States. The All
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  Speaker 2: Blacks come play a couple of games in the United
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  Speaker 2: States for a couple of well, partially because diaspora from
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  Speaker 2: all of these other nations to the United States means
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  Speaker 2: there are people in the fan base that live in
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  Speaker 2: the US, but also because you know, there's where a
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  Speaker 2: populated enough country that you can of the four hundred
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  Speaker 2: million people that live here. You can grab fifty thousand
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  Speaker 2: to come to Soldier Field to watch South Africa play
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  Speaker 2: against New Zealand in a rugby contest. Right to establish
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  Speaker 2: yearly multiple visits international tours. I just don't think that
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  Speaker 2: there's any other league out there that can force itself
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  Speaker 2: into markets beyond these American sports leagues. And it's fascinating
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  Speaker 2: to watch the NFL try to do it. They've been
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  Speaker 2: telling us for over a decade now, hey, we might
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  Speaker 2: end up expanding internationally and doing like a European franchise.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a couple of owners overseas.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The Jacksonville guy, obviously con is he's half a Londoner, right,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe he could build something in London. But then
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  Speaker 2: you got to fight with the rest of the owners,
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the league, the collective bargaining, hey, we
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  Speaker 2: don't want to travel that much, we don't want.
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  Speaker 3: To have to fly across the pond. I think it's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I think the idea is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I think the players would get, you know, a little
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  Speaker 2: cultural enrichment out of it, and actually could be an
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  Speaker 2: asset to the league and certainly would grow the game
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  Speaker 2: a lot more if you had a regular weekly or
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  Speaker 2: semi weekly presence every football season over on that side
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  Speaker 2: of the Atlantic Ocean. But it's I mean, what else
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  Speaker 2: what other sports league can do this? The NBA did
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  Speaker 2: it almost by accident with the Dream Team almost, but
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  Speaker 2: again that's a that's a sport that requires so much
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  Speaker 2: less to get started in. Like soccer is the easiest,
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  Speaker 2: basketball is the second easiest. Maybe baseball is the second easiest.
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  Speaker 2: But the NFL releasing an international slate of games telling
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  Speaker 2: you that your San Francisco forty nine ers are going
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  Speaker 2: to be playing in Australia. The Steelers and the Saints
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  Speaker 2: are like, yeah, we're We're playing in Paris. How many
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  Speaker 2: Steelers and Saints fans are in Paris right now? Well,
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  Speaker 2: probably not a lot. We've gone over the markets the teams.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL teams are allowed to market two and some
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  Speaker 2: of them make geographical sense, cultural sense, whatever. Some of
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  Speaker 2: them you're just like, why why does the Jacksonville team
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  Speaker 2: have exclusive rights to market in Turkey or whatever it was?
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  Speaker 2: Niners Rams in Melbourne, Ravens Cowboys in Rio. And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, these are not exhibition these are regular season games.
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  Speaker 2: These are week three, week one, Week three, Cincinnati Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: Week nine in Madrid, Colt Speakers in London, Eagles Jags
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  Speaker 2: in London, Texans Jags in London. The Jags are staying
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  Speaker 2: week five and six across the Pond, Deer Saints in Paris.
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  Speaker 2: Week seven, the aforementioned Bengals Falcons matchup Week nine, Patriots
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  Speaker 2: Lions in Munich, Vikings and Niners in Mexico City. So
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  Speaker 2: week one and week eleven for my Niners are international games,
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  Speaker 2: and as we await the official two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: plus game NFL schedule being released, I think tomorrow right
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  Speaker 2: they're they're leaking out. They're giving you the little tidbits
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  Speaker 2: of these international games, and I'm not there's no hardcore
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  Speaker 2: point to make here.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing to really like.
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  Speaker 2: Drive home. We're already football fans. We're going to remain
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  Speaker 2: football fans. Even if you're a season ticket holder for
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  Speaker 2: one of these teams and they take a home game
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  Speaker 2: away from you, you're not going to cancel your season tickets,
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  Speaker 2: or if you do, they're going to sell the next
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  Speaker 2: day to somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, it is.
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  Speaker 2: Our thing, it is our favorite sport, it is our
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  Speaker 2: national pastime. Now well, I'm still not convinced despite the
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  Speaker 2: massive effort the NFL is making, that it's ever going
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  Speaker 2: to really truly catch on the way they wanted to
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  Speaker 2: in these international markets. James, am I underestimating Roder Goodell
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  Speaker 2: and what the NFL can do here.
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  Speaker 4: I actually agree with you though, like this, they probably
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  Speaker 4: make enough money where they go, Yeah, why wouldn't we
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  Speaker 4: do this? And that's that's what's going to drive this,
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  Speaker 4: But it's not. I don't know that the that the
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  Speaker 4: game is going to grow to the point where you're
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  Speaker 4: finding excuse me, where you're finding prospects in Germany the
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  Speaker 4: way that the way that you do, like the NBA does,
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  Speaker 4: and obviously soccer is done for a very long time.
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  Speaker 4: For many of the reasons you stated, My feeling has
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  Speaker 4: always been, even though everywhere you go in North America
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  Speaker 4: pretty much certainly in the US and Canada, people know
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  Speaker 4: the NFL. People are fans of the NFL whether there's
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  Speaker 4: a game, whether there's a team in your market or not.
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  Speaker 4: Salt Lake City is an obvious example of that. I
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  Speaker 4: I would love for, at least like the preseason games
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  Speaker 4: to have places like here in Salt Lake City, places
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  Speaker 4: in Canada. No, there's never any NFL game in Canada.
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  Speaker 4: I don't. It surprises me, baffles me, Like there're they
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  Speaker 4: have their own they have the CFL, which is which
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  Speaker 4: is really popular up there. Like of course they're going
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  Speaker 4: to come out for an NFL game. I would love
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  Speaker 4: for like preseason games instead of less of these international
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  Speaker 4: games and more of like these preseason games where they
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  Speaker 4: go around to and and you've mentioned the draft go
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  Speaker 4: around to cities in North America, you know, primarily the
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  Speaker 4: United States. But like I said, Canada would be great.
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  Speaker 4: Would it would be a great thing to where they go, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we're bringing the NFL to you. I don't care if
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  Speaker 4: you feel like you've maxed out on that giving p
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  Speaker 4: people like hockey has done such a they have so
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  Speaker 4: much faith in Hey, if you go to a hockey game,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to fall in love with the game. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know why the NFL feels like they don't want
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  Speaker 4: to give those experiences to Yeah, maybe they're already fans
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  Speaker 4: here in Salt Lake City in Vancouver in Canada, But
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  Speaker 4: like those fans, many of those fans have never been
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  Speaker 4: in an NFL game. Do you know how much more
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  Speaker 4: invested and how much more they might spend if you
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  Speaker 4: gave them a chance to have an NFL game, even
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  Speaker 4: if it's just preseason, or have the NFL Draft in
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  Speaker 4: their town. Like, I don't know why they don't do
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  Speaker 4: more of that.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about this plenty before the.
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  Speaker 2: Draft itself, Like they're going to go, They're going to
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  Speaker 2: check the boxes of visiting all the NFL cities and
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  Speaker 2: having the draft there, and then they're either going to
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  Speaker 2: restart that rotation or if they're smart, they should bring
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  Speaker 2: it to the fringe markets, the the markets, or they
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of fans where there's an allegiance to
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  Speaker 2: whatever assortment of teams, like in Salt Lake City, like
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  Speaker 2: in Boise, Idaho, like in you know whatever, Iowa city
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  Speaker 2: where you don't have your own team necessarily, but you
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  Speaker 2: are fans. And I think, James, I think the answer
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  Speaker 2: to your question, which is a good one, like why
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  Speaker 2: not an NFL game at Rice Cycle Stadium or a
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  Speaker 2: level Edwards Stadium? I think the answer to that question
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  Speaker 2: is because they know that they're already getting money from
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  Speaker 2: those people, right, those people already.
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  Speaker 4: Have Yeah, they're going after the international.
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders jerseys they have the Denver Broncos jerseys,
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  Speaker 2: they're already paying for the NFL Red Zone package, and
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  Speaker 2: they're looking for new customers. Which that's a I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's a debatable business strategy all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Do you.
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  Speaker 2: Do you sacrifice the needs in the wants of your
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  Speaker 2: current customers in order to get new ones instead the
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  Speaker 2: money that you could spend satisfying your current recurring customers,
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  Speaker 2: is that better spent on trying to tap into a
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  Speaker 2: new market. Well, the NFL has determined that yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: worth their investment to go try to tap into a
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  Speaker 2: new market and try to sell jerseys for one hundred
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  Speaker 2: Great Great Britain pounds pounds sterling or whatever, or for
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  Speaker 2: two hundred euros or whatever they're charging over there. Then
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that James Peterson is renewing his jersey
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  Speaker 2: collection in Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 3: It's the only explanation I can come up with.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, we're sitting here being armchair marketers and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: armchair decision makers, and I'm sure that you know they
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: have the smartest, the brightest, the best minds on the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: accounting problems in the NFL. To to solve these problems
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: or to theorize on what would make more sense for them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: But I can't help but look at every time we
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: see and I love the idea of an international game.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: At one point, I'm going to go to an NFL
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: international game. It's going to be there when I'm already
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: in town somewhere for the PFL or whatever, and I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: just gonna buy a ticket and I'm gonna go, and
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna see what it's like, and I'm gonna love it,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and the same way I would love an NFL game
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: on home soil. But every time I see it, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: look at it and I say, this is not the
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: same as hockey, basketball, even baseball. This is our uniquely
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: American sport that we are in a lot of ways
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: force feeding to an international market. And some of it
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: is for expats, right, some of it is for populations
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of Americans that have gone over and worked in other places.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: But that's not the target that you're trying to increase
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: your market share on. They're trying to get Germans to
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: like NFL football. They're trying to get Brazilians to like
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: NFL football. I believe recognizing an opportunity and saying, you
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: know what, we've figured out in the United States that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: people actually will watch like three or four sports depending
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: on the seasons, not competing with one another. People will
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: people you know, buy their football tickets and then maybe
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: they don't buy basketball tickets also, but they'll buy basketball
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: television packages, they buy basketball jerseys, they buy basketball gear,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: so we can get them on that and then maybe
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: those people also we've done the market research, and they'll
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: also adopt a baseball team in the spring, or maybe
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: some of them are even jumping on this UFL bandwagon
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in the spring, and these people have a summer sports
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: interest as well. Maybe that's what the NFL's done, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: they're looking at it and saying, hey, you know what,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: zill they really love soccer, they really love volleyball. What
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: they don't have is a third sport to attach them to,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: or a fourth sport to attach their money to.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: And that's what they're out for.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And it's it's an experiment that they have enough money
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to fund, maybe until it is too big to fail,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: which makes the NFL unique. If you're a fledgling league,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I work for a fledgling league. Okay, if you're a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: fledgling league and you're trying to do this, you're trying
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: to grasp roots. Sometimes you have to go whether it's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: not competition, sometimes you have to go where there's a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: play where you know, Like in the pfl's case, our
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: greatest success is found from a ticket sales perspective, from
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: a viewership perspective, when we do an event where the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: UFC either has never been or hasn't been in a
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: very long time, right, that is a market start for something.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: But again, those are people who already are martial arts fans,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: are already combat sports fans, mixed martial arts fans.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Those are people that already have like some awareness of
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the product.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: With football, it is a totally unique business model because
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: in most cases people'll find a game in Munich, a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: game in London, a game in Dublin. You're trying to
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: fill that stadium at least halfway with people who don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: know what they're watching, with people who are just as
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: they're watching it, learning.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: What's going on.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It's as bold of a strategy as you're going to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: find in sports. It's not dissimilar from the which is
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: another thing that the NFL does, where they just take
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: big body, strong guys, they take potential and they try
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to turn it into a finished product that actually makes
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: sense from a competitive standpoint.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: On the flip side of this coin, the.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: NFL looks at every human being as a or every
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: sports fan at least as a potential NFL fan, the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: same way they look at everyone who's six' five and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy plus pounds as a POTENTIAL nfl.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Player they're, like, yeah, well that, guy he only Likes
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: serie A italian, soccer but if we give him ENOUGH,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: nfl he's going to become AN nfl.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: FAN i am not convinced of.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: That THE nfl is the wild belief in your own.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Product i'll tell you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: That, Yeah i'm not convinced of that, EITHER, oc BUT
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: i am convinced that they probably make enough money From
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: american tourists going to these games or as you, said
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: expats who live in the in these countries or neighboring
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: countries that they and then the rest of the newer
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: fans who, like oh this is this is a curiosity for.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Me i've heard about, this but now it's, here might
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: as well. Go i'm convinced they make enough money that
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: they're not gonna stop doing, it and they're gonna continue
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: to add. More, MATE i don't know that THE i
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: don't think that they'll ever have franchises outside Of North.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: America BUT i, mean crazier things have happened in my
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: lifetime in. Sports so who.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Knows how many how many cricket, Matches, james would you
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: have to? Have Like i'm talking Like pakistan Versus West,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: indies like big time. Cricket, okay how many of those
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: would have to take place At America First, field which
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: is the wrong, shape so you probably couldn't do it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: There but bear with me on the hypothetical here before.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Your, stadium you can turn into a cricket.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Before you were finally like you know WHAT i actually
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: really liked is and Now i'm like a real. Fan
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it's not just a carnival for. Me it's not just
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: a curiosity for, Me LIKE i THINK i have to
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: go to like twenty cricket, game twenty cricket.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: MATCHES i THINK I i Think i'd have to do
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: at least that, many maybe even maybe even a lot.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: More Like, yeah but that's like and that's where THE.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Nfl that's why THE nfl is in a different position
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: than my cricket cricket couldn't do.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: That, okay they, couldn't, SAY.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I doubt they sell enough tickets or. MERCHANDISE nfl is
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: selling all of that when they go To, munich.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And they can almost they can almost fake it until
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: they make, it which is which is something that requires
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and Live golf tried to do this and realize they,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: can't and they spent five billion dollars trying to do,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: it trying to, innovate trying to, reintroduce trying to completely
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: change the structure of professional golf the span five, billion
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and it didn't. Work THE nfl isn't gonna spend five
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: billion dollars and have it. Fail they might spend five
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: billion dollars though before it's truly the success that they
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: want it to. Be but they're one of the only
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: they might be the only sports league outside of Like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: premiership soccer that that even could do. It fascinating. Stuff
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: we'll give you the full rundown on THE nfl schedule
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and the total release as it. Happens lots to get
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to on the show, today some of the good, news
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: some of it not so good. News we'll touch on
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: some of that when we get to the daily Dump
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Carlos Mauricio ramirez is An APPLE Tv english And spanish
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: play by play, Man olympic studio host over On. Telemundo
• 29:48
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• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Game he's an analyst AT Nbc Sports Pay. Area we're
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: gonna talk some, Soccer we're gonna talk some Upcoming World
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: cup and he's A niners, guy so we're gonna talk
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: My niners as. Well you'll have to bear with me on.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: That he's our first guest and It's Freddie coleman And Adrian.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Denny we're rolling on A. Wednesday It's The shan O'Connell
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: SHOW espn seven hundred and ninety two ONE ff. Two
• 30:15
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• 30:16
  Speaker 1: On you tune To The shan O'Connell show for The
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Murdoch Chevrolet studio OF pspn seven hundred and ninety two
• 30:25
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• 30:26
  Speaker 2: To, Me welcome back To The shan O'Connell. Show welcome
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: in for the first, Time Carlos Mauricio. Ramirez you can
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: find him On APPLE tv DOING mls play by Play
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: english And, Spanish olympic studio host over At telemundo forty Nine, Ers,
• 30:48
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• 30:51
  Speaker 3: FOR Nbc Sports Bay.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Area IF i have my, way we'll be talking With
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: carlos quite a, bit especially when we get into football.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Season, carlos welcome to the show for the first. Time
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: how are?
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: You thank, You thank you for having, me happy to do,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: it and, yes whenever the forty nine ers are, BACK
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: i will be happy to join you, Guys so my.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Pleasure we'll get to the forty nine ers here in
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: just a. Second but If i'm doing my job the right,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: WAY Rsl Houston dynamo tonight At America First Field World
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Cup soccer coming right around the.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Corner we got to dive into some of this a little.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Bit let's start WITH rsl and a strong start to
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: THEIR mls. Season how much have you seen OF rsl
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and are You are you a believer so far that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: this is a team that can actually contend for a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: cup this.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: Year i've called a couple of games AND i think
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: there's enough there for them with with a move or,
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: two with an addition or, two to be a really
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: dangerous team in The Western. Conference and consistency is a big.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: WORD i think this, team which is in my estimation
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: coach but one of the better coaches in the. League
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: In Pablo, australiani it's a new system with three in the.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Back The gozo experiment as a wing back has convinced
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: some there's some others who don't like it as. MUCH
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: i personally like. It if we see The gozo version
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: of what we saw Against portland a couple of weeks.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: AGO i was In Salt lake hauling that game For,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: apple SO.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I love the.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: BASE i do think the biggest, thing or IF i were,
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: to you, know if IF i were to give Real
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Salt lake fans a, wish or IF i Think Pablo
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: muserandi was submitted to a lie detector and you would ask,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: him what would you like or what did you need
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: for this? TEAM i would think you would say a,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: nine a proper goal scoring. Nine Sergi salons has done
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: a great job in terms of hbilitating, passes, pivoting connecting
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: ALL a tug is a physical specimen in the best of.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Ways you Have, Threak he's a really athletic, player but
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: they're not bona fide goal, scorers or at least they
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: haven't been this. Season and when you have the production
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Of Diego luna And zaidiegozo and b levelheet behind a
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: proper nine with spears In kaliscan being what they are
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: in the. Midfield that's WHAT i think will now Separate
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: Real Salt lake from The, vancouvers The, eliotcus The seattles
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: and even The san Jose as of the. World SO
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: i do see there's enough. There if they go out
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: in the in the winner or The World cup break
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: and sign a proper, nine that to me changes everything
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: For Real Salt.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Lake you just mentioned The World cup, break and it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: something that you, know We've we've been kind of Like i've.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Been laying it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Out i've been preparing where we have. Adopted we are
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: a soccer market here now In Salt Lake. CITY a
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: lot of people were, bummed myself. Included although it's understandable,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that you, know not a host city for The North
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: American World, cup but a lot of people have already
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: made their travel. Plans i've SPENT i think too many
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: segments probably talking about transportation and ticket prices for the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: premier sporting events every four years in the. World but
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: one of the big questions people have is Will Real
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Salt lake have any representation on the international ultimate. Stage
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: will the Moon man be on THE us men's national
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: team when the deadline comes in three?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: WEEKS i think he.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: WILL i think he. Should when you look at that
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: loster and when you dice it, up there's no player
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: that does What Diego luna can do in the sense
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: of temple, management connection with, forwards being able to change
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: the rhythm and the pace of a soccer. Match polistic
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: can do what he can. Do no one else can
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: do as well inside the microcosm OF. Pusa but What
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Diego luna brings is he might not be going back
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: to the physical specimen or the physical freak that some
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: players are at this. Stage he might not be. That
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: what he, is, though is A he is the conductor
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: of a. Midfield he can step on, it he can,
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Accelerate you can come from behind connect the dots with
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: either musa or a ballagoon or prolific or whoever you
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: want to put on the. Top AND i understand you
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: need some muscle behind him with mackenzie and that that will, happen, Right,
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: well let some. Mckennie that'll. Happen BUT i do my
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: expectation is That Diego, luino when it's all said and,
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: done will be picked between the twenty six players That
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: portatino will bring to The World.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: CUP i feel like that would be that there would
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: be enough reason for the casual, fans like the kind
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: of the people on the, bubble so to, speak to
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: tune in a little, extra maybe maybe add a little
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: more intrigue to the maybe push someone over the. Hump i'm,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: like all, RIGHT i am going to travel To San,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Francisco houston IN la to go watch A us men's
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: national team.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Game and, look you've been closer to this THAN i.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Have do you get a?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Sense and we've seen all the, Articles we've seen some
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: rollback in prices. Transportation you, know there was like the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: bus ticket was going to cost one hundred and fifty.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Bucks people got mad about, it so they've reduced the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: cost on that kind of.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Thing IS fifa and The World cup sort of?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Community are they responding the right way to some of
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the concerns on making this thing accessible to, fans not
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Just North american, fans but the fans that are making
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the trip From, europe From, africa From South america to
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: try to enjoy this once in every four years.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: Event, yeah that's a good. Question and that is the
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: main concern with prices is how do we afford?
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: THIS i, mean how do we.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: How do we get? THERE i mean not just the
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: visa and all those issues that are you know ingrained
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: with going to The United states if you're a foreign
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: citizen or if you're just a, tourist which are.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: A.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Concern but even when the government gets involved and you
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: HAVE us lawmakers seeking, transparency you, know from from, ticketing
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: that's that's an issue in and of. Itself so we've
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: heard members Of congress responding to the tickets for The World,
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: Cup so that is an issue most of the, games
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: or at least tickets for most of the, games and
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: the remember there's Sixteen North american cities that will host
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: The World. Cup some tickets have gone over ten thousand. Dollars,
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: Right that's that's, obsessive that's. Excessive But i'm even upset
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: if you have ten thousand dollars in your back pocket
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: for a sporting. Event good for. YOU i, mean you're
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: doing Something i'm. Not but and THEN fifa releases sam
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: and say that they're focused on ensuring fair access to
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: a game for existing but also prospective, fans, Right and
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: they're saying there's some tickets are available at sixty, dollars
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: those were long. Gone and then the other problem THAT
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: fifa has to address is the resale, market and that's
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: another conversation to, have but it is a. Problem some
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: cities have recorded and reported some issues with, hotels saying
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: that they would have expected at this. Stage we're twenty
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: nine days away from The World cup starting and some
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: cities have yet to at least record or notify increase
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: in hotel accommodations and people not recording or not getting
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: their either airbnbs or hotel rooms at different, rates so
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: they're not seeing an increment in hotel accommodations and bookings
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: regarding or compared it to other, summers which is alarming
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: for those. MARKETS i think it'll go. UP i think
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: as days go buy and, people you, know see what
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: money they have said to go to The World, cup
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: that will. Increase Maybe i'm just being, naive but it
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: has been an issue for. Sure, Well i'm with.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: YOU i think it is going to go, up AND
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: i think that part of the reason they'll get the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: more bookings IS i think that these airbnb hosts and the,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: hotels especially in the stadiums. Themselves they're, realizing, like, man
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: we actually can't gouge the prices as much as we have.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Been i'm, Realisticing. CARLOS i understand that we're talking about
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: a premier sporting event, here and there's a cost associated with.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: That it should be maybe twice as, much maybe three
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: times as much as a normal. Ticket the five and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: ten x thing just doesn't make a lot of. Sense
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and FOR fifa to, pretend, oh we want to address
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the resale, market we want to make it accessible while
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: also taking a fifteen percent cut have every ticket re.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Sold you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: There you're not actually trying to serve the fan. Base
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: and by the, way they're not. Alone there's plenty of
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: sports organizations that do. THIS i wonder if we're ever
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: going to get to the point, though where we truly
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: price fans, out especially like you just, said the prospective,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: fan and people just truly do get sick of.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: It, YEAH i, mean the problem is when when you
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: have people who are willing and able to pay ten
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars for YOUR i don't, Know, Portugal, columbia Imagine.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Miami how do you explain. It, well if there's someone
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: able and willing to do, it then we'll keep putting
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: it out. There so it is an. Issue it is
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: a problem, Again President President johnny And fantino saying That
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: World cup tickets price AT us market rate is. Naive
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: it did start that way months, ago but those tickets
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  Speaker 6: were sold out within hours of them being on the.
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  Speaker 6: Market the tickets for most of the fe For World
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  Speaker 6: cup group, games Per, infantino remain or ranging from thirty
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  Speaker 6: three hundred and eighty dollars to four and five, dollars
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  Speaker 6: so anywhere from four hundred bucks to four thousand. Bucks
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  Speaker 6: that is what's happening right. Now and they say we
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: HAVE fifa says they have a twenty five percent of
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: group state tickets that can be bought for less than
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: three hundred, dollars which is not BE i, mean that
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  Speaker 6: is not an insane. PRICE i understand that that to
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  Speaker 6: me sounds reasonable for A World cup ticket if it's
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: under three. HUNDRED i would ask That infantino would find
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: me those, tickets BECAUSE i have yet to see someone
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  Speaker 6: at this stage saying, yeah you know WHAT i found
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  Speaker 6: a ticket.
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  Speaker 2: FOR i don't.
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  Speaker 6: Know jordan Versus algeria In San francisco for under three. Hundred,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: sure BUT i JUST i, MEAN i haven't seen it
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  Speaker 6: at this.
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  Speaker 2: Point, Else Mauricio ramirez is our guests here talking about
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: A World cup soccer on the shot Of connell's.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Show one, thing all of my complaining in my hand ringing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Aside one thing that we will pay for in The
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: United states is and we'll pay to watch a. Winner
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: and if THE us men's national team could make a
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: run those ticket, prices people will pay whatever it is
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to watch elimination.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Rounds how realistic is.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: A nice? Run i'm not talking about winning The World cup,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: here but is there a ceiling in your mind for
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: this men's national?
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Team, well It's GROUP, d IT'S, Usa, Paraguay australia And.
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  Speaker 6: Turkey that TEAM usa should, ADVANCE i mean winning the.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: GROUP i don't. KNOW i hope so. Advancing, SURE i
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: would even say it's it's mandatory For TEAM usa to
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: advance within the confines Of GROUP. D then it's well
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: you have to knockout rounds are really hard to. Predict
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: if they win their, group and That's GROUP, d they
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: would Play july first In San francisco against the third
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  Speaker 6: team out of Either GROUP, B, E, F i OR.
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  Speaker 6: G and now you're just you, know flipping a, coin,
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: right it could be. ANYONE i mean not literally. Anyone
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: but let's Say GROUP b if they're for if they're
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: the number one seed out Of GROUP. D GROUP b
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  Speaker 6: Is canada bosniat guitar In, Switzerland so it could BE Usa.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Canada it could BE Usa, switzerland it could BE Usa.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Bosnia anyone who comes out of that group in the
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: third spot could be. There let's go To GROUP, e
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: which could also be paired. There, well It's, germany Curisl
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Ivory coast Or. Ecuador, Well germany Or ECUADOR i think
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: will ring that, group so maybe It's Ivory. Coast, well
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: it could also be Good GROUP. F that means it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: it's the third team From, Netherlands, Japan sweden And. Tunisia,
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: well it could be Either japan Or sweden that comes
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  Speaker 6: out of that group on the third. Spot then it
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  Speaker 6: could Be GROUP. I and you're seeing a training. Here
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  Speaker 6: i'm Just i'm just giving you. Names, France, Senegal iraq Or. Norway,
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: well it's Either iraq Or senegal that's third Because france
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  Speaker 6: And norway are going to fight for group. Supremacy and
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: then the final one and please bear with, me It's GROUP.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: J that's HOW i say This World cup will be
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: and that could Be, Argentina, Algeria austria And. Jordan so
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: you're seeing here a trend of teams that are not you,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: know world beaters or world, thumpers who would Face team
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: USAF TM usa Wins GROUP d and if they do,
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  Speaker 6: that Then i'm not gonna boy you with the other
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: combinations because they're. Infinite they would move to the round of.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: Sixteen so all all to, SAY i think that the
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: four For TEAM usa should be at least round of thirty,
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: two and THEN i can see them advancing and beating.
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: One are those teams make it to the ground of
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: sixteen and then all bets are, off, right because if
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: if that, happens then they would face the winner Of GROUP,
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: g and That GROUP g would Be, Belgium, Egypt iran
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Or New, zealand so it could Be TEAM usa Against.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Belgium all bets are, off SO i could see them
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: at least making it to the ground of sixteen at.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Least all, right BEFORE i let you, GO i want
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: to ask you a little inside baseball. QUESTION i do
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: play by play myself on combat, sports not on, soccer
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: not yet on, football which is Where i'd like to
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: be at some. Point but you Do english And spanish
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: play by play, commentary AND i have a deep admiration
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: for people who are multi, lingual and especially in a professional,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: setting the ability to switch back and, forth to do
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: An english game on A, monday A spanish game on A,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: friday whatever it, is.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: It's a different.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Level my question for you is is one more fun
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: than the?
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: Other because there's a different there's a different, sound there's
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: a different, formality there's a different formatics to the Way
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: english sports are done And spanish sports are, done And
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: portuguese And.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Japanese, right there's each language kind of has its own
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: rhythm and its own. Pace is one more fun than
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the other when you're Doing english Or spanish? Commentary that's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: a great.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Question i'll put it this. WAY i, THINK i don't,
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: THINK i. KNOW i know that there's a level of
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: energy and excitement that is not just, allowed but expected
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: of one when you call any sport In, spanish whether it's.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: Football And i've been the voice Of Sunday Night football
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: for tell Them. WINDOW i did it in twenty twenty
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: one leading up to the The bengals And Rams Super,
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: bowl or whether it's What i'm going to do now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: Here i'm In seattle right, Now i'm going to call
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: The Seattle sounders And sanders a game. Tonight For apple And,
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: spanish whatever the, sport there's not just a, license but
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: an expectation that you should be, loud, raucous boisterous and
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: demonstrative when you do play by. Play not doing it
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: is pretty much anti. Cultural, well the opposite happens In.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: ENGLISH i, MEAN i can't call a game In english
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: the WAY i call In SPAN i would BE i get.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: Fired no one would be able to handle ninety minutes
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: of soccer the WAY i do it In, spanish because
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: it's it's just. Different it's culturally. Different fun is, different
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: because WHAT i like About english play by play is
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: you have these, pockets and you have this linguistic licenses
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: and tools That english has That spanish. Doesn't, uh there's
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: a way you can phrase and construct and use certain
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: terminology That spanish doesn't, have especially in sports like baseball or.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: Football SO i would definitely say soccer is way more
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: fun In. Spanish BUT i would also say sports like
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: football are more fun In. English SO i would say
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: it depends on the. SPORT i would rather call a
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: game or a soccer game In. Spanish But i've also
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: been able to blend or bring in or read some
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: of The spanish calls or energy on The english, side
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: and What i've found is that fans really appreciate. It
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: you really like it when you when you give that
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: energy without going, overboard without going over too, much because
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: that's that's not accepted or or even tolert it because you.
• 48:56
  Speaker 8: Know it just it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: Doesn't so that's the best. Way that's a long winded
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: way of saying. THAT i think both are fun AND
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: i love doing, both AND i appreciate your comment and
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: thank you for.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: That.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: WELL i think it's great that you're able to do,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: both AND i like the over the top nature Of spanish,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: calls SO i would like that to be integrated more
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: into The english side of, things and it sounds like
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: you're doing. It so we're going to catch some games
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and we'll be talking more With Carlos Mauricio roverrez as
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: The World cup approaches and then into football season when
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: he's working on The niners in baseball pre and postgame
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: with the giants in The. A'S i can't wait to
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: keep picking your. Brain, carlos thanks for your time.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: Today thank you appreciate. It it's a pleasure talking to you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: Guys Love Salt Lake, city love the. MARKET i was,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: there LIKE i said a couple of weeks, ago for
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: YOUR rsl game Against. Portland it should be a fun
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: game tonight Against. Houston A houston team that BEAT lOFC
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: pretty badley over the weekend With Ben elson doing a
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: great job with those, dudes With Mataos bogus and. Company
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: so if you're out there In Salt lake And, sandy
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: go to the. Game it's A World cup, year so
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: soccer mania has taken over a beautiful, Nation so do.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: It support your local team where the. GEAR i think
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  Speaker 6: THAT rsl has perhaps the most intriguing PROMISING us soccer
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: talent right now in the league With bolarue From San
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  Speaker 6: jose and by a sep Year, Goozo so go and watch.
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  Speaker 6: Him he's A utah, native so go watch him while you,
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: can't BECAUSE i promise you this kid will not last
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: long IN. MRIs he has a bright future out of,
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: him so you should go out and see him play
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: every time you Can.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Well Stated Carlos Mauricio Ramirez apple tv mls for, now
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: and he's he's doing a lot of different, things so
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: we'll stay up up to date on what his latest
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: project is as we check in with him in the near.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Future All, right The Hot lunch is coming. Next we'll
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: do it BECAUSE i want to get To Freddy coleman on.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Time it's A shan O'Connell SHOW espn seven hundred and
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  Speaker 2: to join us here in a couple of. Minutes some
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  Speaker 2: an Important World cup travel. Announcement The trump administration is
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: suspending a requirement for foreign visitors from certain countries that
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: are often guilty of overstaying their visas in The they've
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  Speaker 2: instituted a rule where you have to have fifteen thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars in bonds if you're visiting from one of these
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  Speaker 2: countries before you're allowed in to The United states Of.
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  Speaker 2: America because if you're from places Like, Algeria cape Vered Ivory, Coast, Senegal.
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  Speaker 2: Tunisia there's been a long history of people staying in
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  Speaker 2: the country illegally after visa's, expired and as part of
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  Speaker 2: the illegal immigration crackdown with The trump, administration they increased
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  Speaker 2: the cost of coming into the. Country but there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be an, exemption exemption specifically for The World, cup
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  Speaker 2: so you don't have to pay the fifteen thousand dollars
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: in bonds as long as you hold A World cup.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Ticket now some of those tickets are fifteen thousand dollars,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: anyway but if you're from a place Like senegal and
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: you want to get, in in the, past you would
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: have had to have a fifteen thousand dollars. Bond now
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: you just have to have A World cup. Ticket which
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: this was a major topic of discussion with THE us
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  Speaker 2: anti you, know anti illegal immigration. Policies it's supposed to
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: be a global welcoming sort of vibe to The World,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: cup but a lot of people are saying that's not
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: exactly what's going on WITH us borders right. Now, THIS
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  Speaker 2: i think is a step in a direction that makes
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: more sense to be hosting A World, cup And i'm
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: curious to see how many people are going to buy
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: A World cup ticket now as an easier way to get.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: In fifteen thousand dollars is a lot of, do especially
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: if you're coming from some of those. Countries so a
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: little update, there since we were just Talking World cup
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: soccer With Carlos Mauricio. Ramirez in order to stay on,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: time that we're going to make that a very brief hot.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Lunch here on The sean O'Connell. Show Freddie coleman joins us,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: next one of the best voices in all of sports,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: radio and we get to pick his brain for about
• 53:40
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• 53:42
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  Speaker 1: Your teams is A sean O'Connell show from The Murdoch
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  Speaker 3: You i'm doing all. Right glad to have you on
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  Speaker 3: the show.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Today there's a lot of different THINGS i want to
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: get into, here if you don't. Mind we started the
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: show today talking about as THE nfl leaks out its
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: international games ahead of the full schedule. RELEASE I i'm
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: fascinated by the strategy of expanding in an actually for THE,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: nfl of trying to grow the fan base Beyond american,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: borders where of course the infrastructure of the Background american
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: football is a Quintessentially american thing that does not have
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: a lot OF.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I guess local and grassroots growth in other.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Countries your thoughts on how just how well this is,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: going or just how much it's going to take for
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: THE nfl to grow it's international fan base to a
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: degree that makes this many games overseas make.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Sense, well THE nfl knows what kind of demand is
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: not only here in The United, States, shaan but also,
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: overseas and we've seen time and time again THE nfl
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: likes two, things money and. Power and when you make more,
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: money you're going to have a lot of, power especially
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: when you're going into hotbeds that are going to be
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: known for, soccer or boxing or. Baseball THE nfl clearly
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: understands what kind of gravy train that they're on, sean
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: and that gravy train does not seem to be running
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: out of tracking anytime. Soon so as much as people
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: don't want to see these international, games that believe, me
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: that's not being the Ugly. American you want to see
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: more Of american games. Here when that money adopted to be,
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: made That's yankee capitalism at its, finest courtesy of The
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: National Football.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: League you can't argue with.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: THAT i, mean it is very much a league, that
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: let's see the almighty dollar dictate a lot of what they're,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: doing and they're the best at it In american, sport
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: at least in gaining those revenues and finding different avenues
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: for those. Revenues for the fan bases like my Beloved
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: San francisco forty nine ers that are they're seeing not
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: just one but multiple games. Overseas in your, mind is
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: there any risk that you alienate some of your local,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: fans some of your domestic, fans AND i guess try
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to make up for that with international.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: Fans, yeah it's a great question Because i'm sure THE,
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: nfl the more they probably think about their, risk they
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: look at their bottom line of the almighty, dollar and
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: they're always going to believe that even if you run
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: the risk of alienating fans shown the risk is that
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: those fans are not just going to go away from
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: their football, teams that when their teams play at, home
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: they're going to be there to support. Them if one
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: or two people do, it but a hundred other people
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: aren't feeling, alienated then THE nfl will take those outs,
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: anytime any given, year any given. Situation and believe, me
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: IF i had my, WAY i think you can have
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: international games more in the, preseason but then that interrupt's
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: getting ready for the regular. Season SO i don't believe
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: that's a good. Idea but they see exactly what kind
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: of foothold they've been able to gain by having international,
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: games AND i guarantee you as much money as we've
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: seen THE nfl is made from, that it's probably a lot.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: More they're probably not being honest about their books and
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: probably how much money they're making from their product being
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: going overseas and being. International so, yeah if you're going
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: to alienate a fan or, two but then you see
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: all that goal going into your, pocket THE nfl has
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: shown they're willing to take that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Risk one of my least favorite conversations that happens around
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: THE nfl every year is talk about the playing. Surface
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: somebody tears an acl or an achilles problem comes, up
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: and players immediately rush, to, well don't have us playing on.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Turf and as much AS i don't like this, CONVERSATION
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: i think it's going to be louder this year than
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: it ever has been because The World cup is coming
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: in and they're Giving World cup soccer players grass in
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: TURF nfl. Stadiums THE nflpa is, like, oh they can have,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: it but we. Can't how much do you think this
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: is going to aggravate the already aggravating discussion about grass versus.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: Turf, well it should aggravate, it BECAUSE i, know If
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: i'm a, player it's okay that THE nfl doesn't care about.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: You that doesn't mean that you can't raise your voice
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: because you're only going to be as productive for THE
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: nfl as long as you're on the football, field AND
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: nfl owners are always going to have an adequated notion that,
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: well players will adjust and coaches will. Adjust what is
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: it going to be best for our? Fans, WELL i
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: guarantee you playing fans don't want to have these situations
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: or these turf monsters creeping up and then one of
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: your players gets injured and then you're going to need
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: that player to get into the playoffs to be a championship.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Team as long as they don't believe that there's going
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: to be that kind of cause and effect that's going
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: to harm their product and enum where they believe that
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  Speaker 5: people are not going to watch, football then they're going
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  Speaker 5: to have whatever service they believe is going to be
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  Speaker 5: best for, them because not going to be best for the.
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  Speaker 5: Players there's not one owner and not one general, manager
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  Speaker 5: not one team president that's going out there to play.
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  Speaker 5: Football and you can express your concerns and put them out,
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: there but as long as people are showing up in,
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: numbers record numbers to watch your product, goals showing up
• 59:35
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  Speaker 5: players are going to be, there how long they're going
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  Speaker 5: product is there each and Every sunday Or monday, night
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  Speaker 2: Power we haven't had a chance to catch up with
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  Speaker 2: you since THE Nfl draft. Happened then it was A
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  Speaker 2: it was a momentous draft here In Salt Lake. City
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  Speaker 2: for the first time, ever The university Of utah had
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: two first. Rounders both of them happened to play the same,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: position offensive. Tackles one guy top, Ten Caleb, blowmo snuck
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: into the first round as. Well but with respect to the,
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  Speaker 2: draft was a. Team was there a team or a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: couple of teams that you thought did the best that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: utilized their draft capital in a way that's actually going
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: to mean a lot for them this upcoming.
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  Speaker 5: Season, well i'll give your team off the. BAT i
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: thought The New York giants had a terrific, draft because
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: anybody that looked At John. Harball you know that they're
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: going to get the best possible people that were going
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  Speaker 5: to help. Them and they got an outstanding linebacker pass
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  Speaker 5: rush to do it all guy In Argill reese the
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  Speaker 5: fifth pick out Of Ohio. State then they Got Francis
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  Speaker 5: manno and an offensive tackled out Of miami at the ten.
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  Speaker 5: Pick and you love when a guy says about their,
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  Speaker 5: Quarterback Jackson, DART i will die for. YOU i thought
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  Speaker 5: That draft night involved in the aus sensive tackle For.
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  Speaker 5: Miami BUT i love what The gihants were able to.
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  Speaker 5: DO i like The cowboys are able to. Get you
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  Speaker 5: get kalob downs in safety all of a, sudden he's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be one of your leaders on, defense can make
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  Speaker 5: plays at all three levels of your. Defense and then
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  Speaker 5: later on the first round you Get Malachi lawns out
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  Speaker 5: OF ucf and edge rusher you need in the, division
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  Speaker 5: which you got to deal With Dyalen hurts twice a,
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  Speaker 5: Year Jackson dart twice a, year and then Also Jackson
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  Speaker 5: that can get after the. QUARTERBACK i think the best
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  Speaker 5: pick that a lot of people did not talk about
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: enough Was Kansas city Getting Master delaney out OF lsu a.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: Cornerback they always have been really, good not just finding
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: cornerbacks in the, draft but finding all pro. Cornerbacks they
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: don't want to pay, them that's not what they want to,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: do but they find those guys on, defense and Now
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  Speaker 5: steve Spac noble can get back to being a kind
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  Speaker 5: of defensive coordinator where you can pressure the quarterback knowing
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  Speaker 5: lot of, TIMES i never have winners and losers from the.
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  Speaker 5: DRAFT i look at who they able to jap based on,
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  Speaker 5: need AND i thought those three, teams That giants and
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  Speaker 5: The cowboys In Kansas city did a really good job with.
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  Speaker 2: That Freddy, COLEMAN Espn radio or guests for just another
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: couple of minutes here on The sean O'Connell, show we're
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: very much a college football market here In Salt Lake
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  Speaker 2: city With UTAH byu was back on the national, scene
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  Speaker 2: and you, know now there's a lot of conversation is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: college football in that?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: World the changes accelerate at a breakneck.
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  Speaker 2: Speed and we've only been in an expanded college football
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: playoff for a short, time but it looks like that's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: going to grow. Again and now the recommendation is going
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: to leap frog over a sixteen team, format and it
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: looks like twenty four is the most likely direction that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the eventual college football playoff expansion is going to settle.
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  Speaker 2: On what do you make of a twenty four team?
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  Speaker 2: Playoff Freddy, Coleman, WELL.
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  Speaker 5: I Guess i'm not, Surprised. Sean and here is, why
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  Speaker 5: BECAUSE i go back to the pandemic in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 5: when so many university athletic officials would get for a
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: load and they had to find a way to mix
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  Speaker 5: and match that money that was not going to be
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  Speaker 5: there from the games that generate that kind of revenue
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  Speaker 5: for college. Football AND i, said, OKAY i wonder how
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  Speaker 5: long's it's going to take before they expand the playoff
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  Speaker 5: and bring that kind of money back to college. Football
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: WELL i got my. Answer not even ten years, later
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  Speaker 5: we're going to have an expanded playoff where they are
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: hell bent on getting that the twenty four. TEAMS i
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  Speaker 5: think sixteen is the right. Number but they're seeing so
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  Speaker 5: much of that out there with the BIG tv contracts
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: that college football had signed WITH espn AND abc AND
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: nbc AND cbs And Fox sports AND Espn plus And
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: Fox sports won all those kind of parameters out there
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  Speaker 5: to bring their product no matter where you, are to
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  Speaker 5: root for your favorite football. Team and with that kind
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  Speaker 5: of extra attention and also increase, viewership it's going to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: bring what money to the, table more money to the.
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  Speaker 5: Table AND i wonder how to be able to try
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  Speaker 5: to recapt the lost. Revenue they've been able to figure
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: that out that people want college football playoff and they
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: want to see the playoffs ON, tv which means that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: more is going to be better for. THEM i think
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  Speaker 5: twenty four is too. MUCH i think you go to
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  Speaker 5: twelve to sixteen and you keep it right. There but
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: if the money and the returns come, in and that's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: going to be, there what have we seen time and time, Again,
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  Speaker 5: Sean if some as, good more as going to be,
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  Speaker 5: better bigger and bigger and. Better especially about the power
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: conference is THE sec and The Big. Ten they want
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: more of THAT pott than anybody. Else and right now
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  Speaker 5: those two leagues are ruling college football on and up
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  Speaker 5: the football.
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  Speaker 2: Field they absolutely, are and we unfortunately have to watch
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: that through The Big twelve lens because that's where our
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: local teams, are at least for. Now and you, know
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: the arms race is not one That utah AND byu
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: are winning right. Now the rush towards greater revenues is
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: not favoring The Big twelve conference right, now and the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: gap between the haves in The Big ten and THE
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: sec and the have nots or they have lesses continues to.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Grow is there any way to close it besides you,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: know getting an invite to The Big ten or THE
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: sec or another tear down and restructure to super conferences
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  Speaker 2: or something like. That is there anything that can save
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  Speaker 2: The Big twelve and THE acc and not just the
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  Speaker 2: top brands in those, conferences but the rank and.
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  Speaker 5: File, WELL i think The Big twelve is most savable
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  Speaker 5: because they're better, league not just in basketball but also
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  Speaker 5: in football and even in. Baseball you can make that
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  Speaker 5: case to The Big twelve did a fantastic job that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: looked like this league was going to go by the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: way of discoing The dinosaur about four years. Ago they've
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  Speaker 5: done a really good job, revamping getting the right kind
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  Speaker 5: of partners in the right kind of teams athletic departments
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  Speaker 5: in their league to make them more than. Solvent THE
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: acc is a different story because they're not even a
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  Speaker 5: terrific basketball conference anymore and that's been their foundation of
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  Speaker 5: any kind of. SUCCESS i think The Big twelve is
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  Speaker 5: more than stable as a conference that they can have
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  Speaker 5: a seat at the big boy. Table they're not going
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  Speaker 5: to have as many seats in plates compared to The
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  Speaker 5: Big ten and also THE, scc but they're not going
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  Speaker 5: to be left behind in the dust because of the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: kind of quality programs they having their big money sports
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  Speaker 5: and they're making big money with those. Programs even if
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: it's And utah kind of feeling lost in that. SHUFFLE
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  Speaker 5: i think the more and more The Big twelve he's
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: having better competition and having those seats and doing well
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  Speaker 5: in the collegewall playoff for THE Ncua, tournament then they
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  Speaker 5: would be hard to. Ignore THE. ACC i worry about
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  Speaker 5: a little, bit especially in football because even if they
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: get one to two teams In martin or, not they
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: lose in the first round of the nca either tournament and,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: basketball but definitely in, football The Big toe at least
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  Speaker 5: has teams that can make a run of two and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: bring more revenue to the league when it comes to collegewell. Playoff,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: yeah they're not going to be anywhere near the big
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: tien of THE. Fcc BUT i think it's all said and,
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  Speaker 5: done the big toe be more than just, fine more
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  Speaker 5: than people want to, admit or more than one of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: people and even think about regarding a terrific, league no
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: matter what sport that is in the big.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Twelve i'm going to ask you an unfair question here
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: before we let you, Go. Freddy The World cup begins
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: In North. America american host, cities A us men's national.
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  Speaker 2: Team that's a question mark on how well they can
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  Speaker 2: really do and make a run in this. Tournament when
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: we look back a couple of months from now on
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: This World, cup how are we going to be processing?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: It, well that's a really good question because there's always
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: WHAT i like to call that group of death where
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: you look at those Teams city and Sell, man oh,
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  Speaker 5: Man i'm Glad i'm not in that. Group if you
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: look at The United, states they're in the group With,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: canada Bos, Herds cabona and Also. Paraguay so that's a
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: pretty not easy. Draw but each of the other draws
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  Speaker 5: That i've been able to, See for, example the group
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  Speaker 5: d Draw Australia turkey during the CURE us, out good
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  Speaker 5: luck with. That the group have Draw, Netherlands, JAPAN I Becaus,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: ecuador good luck with. THAT i think The United, states
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  Speaker 5: having that home field, advantage will be making a decent.
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  Speaker 5: MIND i they can't get to the round of thirty,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: two but then they may run into a team Like
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: belgium who's going to be really. Good they may run
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: into a team like The netherlands who's really going to be.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: GOOD i think the most important thing is that we're
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: going to look back to The World cup of twenty twenty,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: six and it should be what's talked about on the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: pitch and not outside of the, pitch because too many
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: FOR us are trying to make sure that they have their,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: attention their, agenda have the expense to The World. Cup
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: hopefully that will now be the case that fans won't be,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: compromised fans will be, exercise but more importantly, sean hopefully
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: the game won't be exercise because the, game it's supposed
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: to be the thing and all. That others outside of
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: that needs to stay on the outside and not let
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: that effect on the.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Inside, well Said. Freddy we'll be watching. Closely we'll be
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: listening To Freddy. Coleman tell our, Guy, harry we said
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: hello and thanks for joining us.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Today my pleasure shall take can be, well my friend
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: will do it again.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Soon That's Freddy coleman really truly is one of the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: best in the business on sports talk. Radio he did
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: solo work for a very long. Time he And Harry
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: douglas have a great show ON Espn. Radio we're lucky
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: to grab him on a day Where Man Stanley cup playoffs.
• 1:08:44
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• 1:08:47
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• 1:08:51
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• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: willie's down at teen Seventeen South. Main and you heard
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: me Ask Freddy coleman about the twenty four team college football.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Playoff we'll get to some of it more in The
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Daily dump that's coming up, Next but THE acc and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: The big twelve are in this situation that we touched
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: on a little bit earlier in the. Week they're in
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: a situation right now where you have to you have
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: to strike this almost perfect balance of advocating for yourself
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: trying to make sure that.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: You're on the right path as a.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Conference and WHEN i say on the right, PATH i
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: mean you're surviving, first.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Thriving, second.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: That you're keeping your more, influential more, powerful more financially scared,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Members you're trying to keep them. HAPPY i think that's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: more of a concern in THE acc that it is
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: in The Big. TWELVE i think that when the phone
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: calls come for, Reorganization miami's getting the first, Calls North
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: carolina's getting.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Calls clemson maybe.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Depending on how Much dabbo alienates people and how long
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: he keeps that football program hyper relevant in the national
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: landscape of real power and. CONTENDERS i think that for
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: The Big, twelve you're less in danger of losing the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: top you, know, four, five six teams of your conference
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: to other. Suitors BUT i don't think that's necessarily a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: good problem to, have because it means that THE, acc
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: which of course is not as good as you. Are
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: excuse me from a depth of talent, standpoint from a
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: depth of conference standpoint in football and now even in,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: basketball they just have a. Brand recognize that you have
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: to try to overcome both The Big twelve and THE
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: acc have to play a very unique game in that when,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: proposals when rule changes come down from On, high and,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: unfortunately in this, case On high is a Greedy Big,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: ten a GREEDY. Sec they're very close television partners who
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: are probably even more. Greedy you have to, say all, right,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: WELL i like your, idea but how about we make
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: the idea make a little bit more sense for? Me
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: and you really don't have a ton of power or
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: a ton of leverage to try to ensure really. ANYTHING i,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: mean it's not going to be long before somebody in
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Those Big ten AND sec meetings ask the, question, well
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: how much do we really need and out of at
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: a qualifier for The Big, twelve do we really want
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: to guarantee THE? Acc, LIKE i know there's the tradition
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: of college, football AND i know this expanded format kept
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the entire nation, engaged but how much how much do
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: we really care about those? Things because The Big ten
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: is now a coast to coast conference And oregon's going
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: to be a, player and USC's got sources to be a,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: player and every now and, Again washington on The west
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: coast is going to be a major. Player and then
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: of course in The Big, ten we've got all these
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Like midwestern. Teams if we can do something to bolster
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: our eastern, presence Our eastern time zone, presence if we
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: can make sure that we're getting you, know if we
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: can somehow find a way to Make rutgers, relevant then
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: we got The northeast. Covered and of course in THE,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: sec they go all the way To Middle. America now
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: we got To texas And oklahoma and THE, sec and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: we don't really have to worry about television sets or
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: dollars or anything else going anywhere else when it comes
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: to college football In, Florida, Georgia, tennessee et. Cetera there
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: is going to be a time when the power brokers
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: in those other conferences in The Big ten in THE sec, say.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: How much do we really care about preserving the competitive?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Balance how much do we really care about the lip
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: service that we are paying to the entire footprint of
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: The Big twelve and of THE. Acc if we can
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: just lop off the top of both of those, conferences
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: we don't actually really care.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Because they.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Don't what are they going to say to The orlando
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: market WHEN ucf gets left behind? Nothing you want to know,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: why because they've already Got florida covered From tallahassee and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: The panhandle all the way down To, miami who they
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: will have stolen at that. Point they, say, yeah all,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: right so middle Of, florida, Sorry, everglades but you're just
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: gonna have to attach your allegiance to one of the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: other three major schools that we've decided are good enough.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: To be at our.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Party the twenty Fourteen College Football, playoff which is the
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: proposed expansion that was discussed AT acc.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Meetings and what did they. Do they huddled. Up this
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: is THE, acc, right and they're making phone.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Calls they're having conversations with THE, sec and THE sec
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: is telling them what they want to. Hear you have, course, you,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: guys if we're a twenty fourteen, playoff yes we will
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: get six and eight teams, in but you guys will
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: get two or three and that's better for you than.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: One and THE aec is probably, saying, yeah but our
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 9: one made a run all the way to The National championship.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 9: Game look What miami, did and THE sec just gets
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 9: to laugh and, say, yeah we, Know Miami's miami's pretty,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 9: Good miami's pretty. Appealing we got our eye On. Miami
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: you don't want us to Take, miami do. You so
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: let's how ABOUT.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Acc how about you support what we are putting. Forward
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: how about you get on board with this new model
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: that we've been talking. About so when you hear AN acc,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: conference and by the, way you will hear it from
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: The big twelve as. Well, Now, brett you Or mark
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: is a little bit more, cagy and So brett Or,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: mark we'll say two months from now At big, twelve
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: just less than two months from Now big twelve media, Days, hey,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: yeah you know what we actually we like the proposal
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: of a twenty fourteen playoff. EXPANSION i can see it
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: being something that makes sense for. Us and he'll, say
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: we want two guaranteed or we want three guaranteed. Spots
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: we want our top teams to have equal representation to
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: these other conference's top. Teams, now he's gonna say these
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: things because he has to say these. Things he's gonna
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: say these things knowing full well that ultimately The Big
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: twelve and THE acc have to acquiesce to the demands
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: of The Big ten and THE, sec because the power
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: dynamic that exists between those conferences and the conference that,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: unfortunately our local university plays.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: In right now is nothing more than.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: Altruism from The big ten in THE sec that, you for,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: now we have decided we like, you and we have
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: decided that you serve a purpose for. Us as soon
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: as they decide that that is not the, case they
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: will make the, votes they will make the, changes they
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: will make the phone calls to the television, partners and
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: they will destroy The big twelve and THE. Acc it
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't serve them to do so right, now so it's not,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: imminent it's not coming just. Yet but someday they will
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: make the decision that it does serve The big ten
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: in THE sec to rip down the structure of college
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: football as it is today and to maximize their, growth their,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: footprint their, whatever their revenue most, importantly and right now
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: they don't feel a need to because they can say
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: to THE acc and they can say to The big, twelve,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: guys we want to go to twenty four teams in
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: The College Football, playoff and what's in it for you
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: is instead of having one team in the college football,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: playoff we're gonna give you. Too and instead of guaranteeing
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: a spot and having a convoluted rule that could have you,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: know two Non power four teams get automatic qualifying bids
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: like we saw last, year maybe we'll take those. Away
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: twenty four teams, though that's what you're gonna. Support it's political.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Theater we've seen it in politics for years and years and. Years,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: right you have this candidate that you really. Love, this
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: by the, way this has been my entire political. Experience
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: you see this guy on the, rise the governor of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: so and, so the representative from, where and you're, like,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: huh all, RIGHT i saw this guy on a news.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Interview look at listen to this. PODCAST i like this person's. Principles,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: okay Traditional american values. Check all, right let's. Go and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: then that, person as they climb the ladder in their
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: own political, party is pulled aside by some, shadowy probably
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: nefarious figure, said, hey we're gonna need you to calm
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: down on those things that matter so much to.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: You another reason that The sean o'connells of the world
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: like your.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Politics we're gonna need you to stop talking about that
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna need you to get on board with
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: our candidate who's above you right now in the pecking,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: order saying this, Instead, okay support, that and then four
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: years from now it'll be your, turn or eight years
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: from now it'll be your. Turn and what happens invariably
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: that person or their political advisor or their campaign manager says, yep,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: okay this is our stance, now and then you and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: me sitting back.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Home, go oh, man this. SUCKS i thought they had
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: our best interest in. MINE i thought that they.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: WERE i thought that we were like truly cohesive in
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: our thoughts here on how this is gonna.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Work, ultimately.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: All of these, schools all these conferences are going to
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: do what they're going to serve their own best interests,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: individually and conference, alignment conference, realignment conference allegiance is going
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: to matter exactly, zero and that will eventually be dictated,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: primarily not even primarily solely by the current power, players
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: the commissioners in The big ten and THE. Sec and
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: WHEN i say the commissioners in The big ten and THE,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: SEC i also mean the television networks that are in
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: bed with. Them so when their edict is twenty four,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: teams the marching order that comes all the way down
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: and Look utah AND. Byu they are more powerful than
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of the teams in The big twelve conference,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: are but they're not powerful enough to, say, no you know,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: What Ohio, STATE i don't like that, Idea, GEORGIA i
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: don't like that. Idea we're not gonna go along with.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: That we're gonna die on the hill of twelve or.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Sixteen and then the big boys, say all, right, well
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna rescind your invite to this. Party we've
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: extended you this olive branch with these automatic invites and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: the revenue associated with, them and that revenue's gonna help. You,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: now it's gonna help us, more but it's also gonna help.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: You and you're, trying you're trying so hard to keep
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: up with us in these. Ways so we're gonna dangle
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: this little carrot that gives you an illusion, of, hey
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: maybe we can keep.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 10: Up you.
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  Speaker 2: Can't you.
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  Speaker 3: Can't but.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't go along with our, way you definitely.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Can't this is gonna at least give you. Hope this
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: is gonna at least keep the gap the same or
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: relatively the. Same that's where we're at right now in THE.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Acc i'm thankful actually that THE a had their meetings,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: first and that THE acc got that phone, call got
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: that talking to you before The big. Twelve just from
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: an optic, standpoint THE acc had to swallow that pill
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: first and, say, yeah we want twenty, Four we support twenty.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Four they might very well prefer sixteen or twelve or,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: eight but they're gonna tell you the same way that
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: The big twelve eventually is going to tell. You, yep
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: twenty four is the number that makes sense for all
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: of us because that's the number of the big boys
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: won and we're living in their. World got to take a.
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  Speaker 2: james are you regular, stitious superstitious or little? STITIOUS i
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  Speaker 4: I would probably say, little but, OKAY i don't.
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  Speaker 4: Superstitious maybe just a.
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  Speaker 2: Little, well, UH i don't know how Cal rowley was,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: before but he might be superstitious now because he was
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and after an incredible red hot year last, year he
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: fell into the worst slump so far in the. Majors
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  Speaker 2: Cal raley, went what thirty eight games hitless or something?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Insane maybe thirty eight At. Pats it's in any, case
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: the longest hitless streak in the. Majors and he was
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: trying everything figuring it. Out. Well it took the advice
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: of one Of seattle's, Pitchers Logan gilbert told Cal, rawley,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: who of course you, know battery mate his. Catcher he, said, look,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: man you want to get rid of this bad, juju
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: you got to.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: Wash it off literally and.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Figuratively he, said go take a shower wearing your. Uniform,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: so after going oh for thirty eight in his, slump
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Cal raley On tuesday night busted out of it after
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: showering in full uniform with two singles in a tend
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: to win over The Houston. Astros, wow the shower in full, Uniform,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: james the move that you would use to get yourself
• 1:26:16
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  Speaker 3: Off here's the.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, baseball more than any other, sport lends itself to
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: all these weird little, things the quirks of, athletes and every,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: athlete make no, Mistake every athlete has their, traditions their.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: Quirks some guys are like married to. Them other guys
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: it's just kind of a you, know it will. Be
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  Speaker 2: if you wear the same lucky.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever baseball more than any other sport because of the
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: sheer amount of time you have to think about these.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Things not only do you have.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: A marathon of a, Season you've got one hundred and
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: sixty two games with these.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Guys and also.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 11: The nature of baseball is even while the competition is,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 11: happening you can be thinking about everything. Else in, FACT
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 11: i think one of the most difficult things About Major
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 11: league baseball is the ability to stay focused on the,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 11: season on the task at.
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  Speaker 2: Hand WHEN i, mean they figured this out a few years.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Ago what is it like if it's like eight minutes
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: per game that a position player is actually active in
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: the pursuit of baseball with their at, bats their base,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: running their, fielding their. Defense in a multiple hour long,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: game you're actually only playing. Baseball you're actually only baseballing
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: for like eight to ten. Minutes and that means your
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: mind can wander any kind of place it wants. To.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah John smoltz likes to bring up the box score
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: area codes game in the in the box score when
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: because pitchers pitchers only pitch every five, games right or
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: for four games probably, Now and he he likes to
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  Speaker 4: great job on that he they look for area they
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  Speaker 10: Like.
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  Speaker 2: Things aren't going, well right and you're getting inside your
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  Speaker 2: to go out the next, shift and you're sprinting down
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  Speaker 2: the ice and somebody's thrown a puck at your face
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• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: one down and oh there's a one time or. Opportunity
• 1:29:16
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  Speaker 2: try and hit. THIS i, mean you don't really get
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: to think on things the same. Way the pace of,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: baseball even when you're at, bat, right it's like hyper,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: focus hyper.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: Focus wind up pitch that took all of five.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Seconds And i'm gonna step out of the batter's. Box
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• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: Have too much time with your own.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Mind and if that's, something if you're prone to doubt
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: or to spiraling out of control with negative self, thoughts
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: baseball is the worst. Sport And i'm not trying to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: accuse Cal rawley of, being you, know mentally fragile or.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: Anything but when you start.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: To go over, two over, six so for, ten, oh for,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: fifteen you can't help but start to get inside your own.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Head and the way that they convinced him to get
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: out of his head was a shower with the full uniform.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: On he.
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  Speaker 2: Said even as he was doing, it he was rolling
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• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: everyone's gonna make a big deal out of. It but
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  Speaker 2: it got him off the. Slump whatever, works.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: Baby, yeah it's a great. STORY i, MEAN i can
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: understand him being, LIKE i don't want to look LIKE
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: i don't want to look like someone who's, crazy. Superstitious
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: BUT i did do. THIS i, mean, hey it.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Worked, Okay SO i told, You, well MAYBE i haven't
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: told you. Yet Winter classic tickets are on sale for
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: full season ticket holders. Today they're on sale for half
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: season ticket holders. Tomorrow they're on sale for the public
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: the general public after. That The Winter, classic of, course Is,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Thursday december thirty first At Rice Ecles stadium against The Colorado.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Avalanche this is going to be an incredible showcase. Game
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: THE nhl released The Winter classic. Logo we so far
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: have not gotten any sneak previews of the sweaters and
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: the you know they always do a one off. UNIFORM
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: i imagine those are going to be. Incredible maybe you
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: get a little bit Extra mountain. BLUE i would not
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  Speaker 2: be surprised If Ryan smith made sure that the, uniforms
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: because the game is being played at The university Of,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: utah had extra.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Blue on them as a little wink, wink you.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Know in any, case tickets are going on sale and
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: it's first come For serve And Cole bagley's been on
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: This Mammoth insider over AT ksl. Sports face value is
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: anywhere from two hundred and two dollars to four hundred
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  Speaker 2: and seventy seven dollars for A Winter classic. Game first of, All,
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  Speaker 2: james we were talking About World cup tickets and kind
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: of the threshold you're willing to. Pay this isn't Quite
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  Speaker 2: World cup level of, unique but it is an incredibly unique.
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  Speaker 2: Opportunity so two two to four to seventy seven pretty
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: reasonable in my. Mind if we're talking about four to
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  Speaker 2: seventy seven being like really good, tickets you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, YEAH i would agree with that, certainly certainly not
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: get you, know anyone who's hoping they could get like
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: a cheaper a ticket under two hundred. DOLLARS i, mean
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: certainly not at this, point but we'll. See i'm curious
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: to see if we see something like the what we're
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: seeing with The World cup tickets on the secondary, markets
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: where the closer we get to, it maybe maybe you
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: get the some better deals out there that tends to
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: happen with all kinds of. Events i'm wondering just how
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: low these might. Get BUT i, MEAN i was talking
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: With Adrian denny about. It he's, Like i've a family
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: that just want to jump on it because you don't want.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: To you want that peace of mind WHERE i got
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: this ticket that's really hard to, get, right you don't
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: want even though you and then maybe you get raked
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: over the, coles you, know comparatively with ticket, prices but
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: at least you're not feeling like the insecurity of, like
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: oh it's a it's a couple weeks, away AND i
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: still haven't got them Because i'm still waiting for it
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: to be the price THAT i want.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: Right, so interestingly, enough the first resale tickets have already
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: hit the market and they're apparently roughly triple the price
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: of face. Value Cole bagley's been on, this LIKE i
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: said talking about you know where where the first demand,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: is and you're absolutely, Right, james, THIS i, mean we
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: saw this with The World cup. Tickets you jump on.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: It if you're the, reseller if you're someone that you
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: know got the, tickets and maybe you can buy up to.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Eight if you're a season ticket, holder you can buy
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: up to eight tickets for The Winter classic with your,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: code with your. Link so you probably keep four for
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: yourself and you put the other four online trying to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: turn a, profit and you're trying to strike while the iron's.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Hot the market's going to be flooded with those and
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: we'll see how good the team is next, year but
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: you're probably you're probably gonna. Sell like the first twenty
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: five percent of the resale market is going to go
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: off as soon as people, realize oh my, GOSH i
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: don't have access to, THESE i don't have special access to.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: THESE i want to jump the. LINE i want to
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: make SURE i have them and leave no. Doubt i've
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: promised my nephew That i'm going to take, them which
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: is my.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Case, unfortunately SO.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: I got to you're getting all, eight is what it sounds.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: Like my little nephew is a hockey.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: Head my sister's son is like in the prime of little,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: kid little league hockey and sports, fandom. Right he is
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: just a full on mullet wearing hockey kid In, boston
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: and because he Loves, utah BECAUSE i live here In,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: utah and we told him about The Winter. Classic i'm, like,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: dude we're, going and he's, like, Yes So Uncle sean's
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: got to come. THROUGH i can't let that. Down SO
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: i got to get these things. Right but eventually people
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: are gonna if the team is as good as they
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: were this, year these tickets are going to stay. Hot
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: if you're in A december slump and people in The
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Colorado avalanche are anywhere close to as good as they
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: are this, year people are gonna be, like, GEEZ i
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: don't know IF i want to sit out in the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: cold and watch that. Game so who. Knows but right,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: now the face value is approaching five hundred. Dollars the
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: resale value is over one thousand. Dollars as these tickets
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: have just hit the market for The Winter.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: Classic have you bought yours yet with Your, WELL i.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: Don't so we have a half.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Season you have half, season so tomorrow, yeah, Full.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: SO i got the email from The Utah Mammoth Winter
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: classic pre sale. Information you will receive an Email, Thursday
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: may fourteenth at one pm that will include a link
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: to purchase tickets for the event on ticketmaster dot. Com
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: you will have the opportunity to purchase up to eight.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: Tickets you must use the link provided in the email
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: to access to pre. Sale we will not have access
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: on our end to assist with purchasing. Inventory so, uh.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah because that makes sense because it's AN nhl, event
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: it's not A Utah mammoth, event it's not A universe
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: Of utah, event even though it's At Rice Cycle. Stadium
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: this is, That this is the team, saying this is
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: the link the league gave. Us we can't help. You
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: it's the lead the league that's in charge of.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: THIS i like. This please note that tickets will be
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: available on a first, come first serve, basis and we
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: anticipate high demand for this.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: Event oh, really, yeah.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: So one o'clock, Tomorrow, James, uh we're gonna Be we're
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be doing a live ticket purchase on.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: Air, okay, OKAY i can make SO i can make
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: sure my GUY i gets to The Winter classic next.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: Year you're gonna we're gonna say, That we're gonna say the.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: Prices where SHOULD i get Some jeopardy music for as
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: the countdown goes down before as you, know you reserve
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: you you pick out your seats and then it puts
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: you on the clock to actually finish The, well.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: We will crowdfund the ticket.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: Purchase So i'll put my venmo out there for all of.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: You eight seven seven three three zero seven. Hundred how
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: much do you? Want how much are you willing to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: pledge Towards sean O'Connell's.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Tickets i'll put on those Like i'll put on those
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: meta glasses and we can all watch the game.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Together, okay a stream the game through my. Glasses there it.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: Is we're all At Rice Cycle stadium On december thirty
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: first for The Winter. Classic, well the.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: Other the wild card here that is hilarious and awesome
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: for me is like it could be fifty five degrees
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: At Rice Cycle stadium if next winter is anything like this,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: winter or it.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Could be just the most miserable experience.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: On New Year's. EVE i feel Like New Year's eve
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: is always crazy. Foggy maybe we get like an eerie
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: sort of muffled, sound hard to see Type Winter classic.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: GAME i mean it could be.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Amazing, yeah.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: You, know the fog might be fun IS i, mean
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: it won't be fun if you're sitting high enough that
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: you can't see the.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: Ice but like ONCE, sucku we spend four hunder bucks
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: out Of Winter classic ticket and you're just seeing like
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: vague shapes in the.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: Mist that's not.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Ideal hold, ON i thought the.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: UH i thought the obstructed view seating was. Over NOW
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: i thought the renovation was. Done oh the, Fog, yeah
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: they couldn't renovate.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: That the last piece of INFORMATION i want to give
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: you in The Daily dump comes from The twitter account
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: of one of our great, contributors our dear, Friend Jerem,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: jordan putting this news host over ON Byu Sports. Nation
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: you hear him here On red And Blue The.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: Enemy of, course we hate, him but we love him.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: Most of it because he's. Blue Jaren hall twenty twenty
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: three fifth round pick for The Minnesota. Vikings Jaren hall
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: has announced his retirement from football on His. Instagram he
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: played in three games for The vikings in twenty twenty.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: Three he got.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Injured he was on The seahawks practice squad in twenty twenty.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: Four he was with The Birmingham stallions of THE ufl
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, six and he is retiring from the
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: game of. Football Jaren hall the First blacks starting quarterback
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: IN byu, history which is still just an insane thing
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: because we're talking about the twenty. Twenties, yeah twenty twenty, one,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: right THAT'S i can't believe that's. Real, Yeah but.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: And UNFORTUNATELY i don't SHOULD i even say. This he
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: broke a streak in the rivalry. Game, UGH i don't
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: like saying, that but.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: No one likes hearing.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: That but, big but you, know big deal in In
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: cougar football history for a couple of. Reasons.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: There, look you can go check out his. Statement It's
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Jaron hall three On. Instagram classy kind of exit For
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Jaron hall acknowledging that you know the run is over
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: and express his gratitude for what he was able to.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: Do and, yeah he's a he's A byu Football you
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to throw, Around you want to throw around
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: the word legend To willy, nilly but he is a.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Whatever the level below legend is like the honorific that
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: is just below. LEGEND i think that's the category he
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: fits into with B yu football because of what you just, mentioned,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: right he was a milestone type. Guy he helped really
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: end a curse that was PLAGUING byu football and its
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: fan base in the most aggravating way, possible and and
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: starting a streak that now Aggravates utah fans in the
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: most pot way. Possible and you, know he had a
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: he had a really good career AT byu without winning.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: Championships he had a really good career at B. Yu
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: and you, know you reserve legend status for the guys
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: who did achieve championship level Or heisman level or you,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: know best at their position in the, conference the country type,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: level but he's just below. That he was, really really
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: darn good and did some important things FOR byu football
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: at an important time FOR byu. Football BECAUSE i don't
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: want to labor the point too much here on A utah,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: station but If Jaron hall and THAT byu team don't Beat,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: utah then the gap continues to widen in recruiting in,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: state even THOUGH byu has the greater resources to commit
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: in THE nil, world you have to be able to
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: tell the kids that you're paying the money to and
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: also you're going to, win especially the local. Kids like
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: the guys that come from out of, state they don't
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: care about the rivalry enough to make it really.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: Matter but all these guys From Bingham.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: High school And Lehigh High school And skyridge And, brighton
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: you got to be able to tell them, like, yeah
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: we're going to beat our. Rival we just did finally
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: shook that monkey off the. Back money solve a lot of,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: problems but it can't solve that particular. Problem And Jaren
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: hall helped do.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: That good luck in.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Retirement, jaren do you think he, uh you think he's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: one of these guys that we see testing dipping his
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: toes in the media.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: WATERS i think that he'd be pretty successful in.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: That, YEAH i could see.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 12: It It.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Alm it feels, like you, know you can mention any former,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: player former coaches name, like, YEAH i could see that
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: guy doing. It it be interesting to. SEE i wonder
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: if he starts the way that most ex players and
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: now even a lot of current players do and then
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: start with the podcast. Thing but maybe we see him
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: somewhere else in the in the local market before the.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: Podcast it'll be interesting to.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 10: See.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: Well Jerem jordan is the one who put the news
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: out there on his and if If Jaren hall is
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: smart and wants to get into media at, ALL i
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: think that he could probably call somebody Like Jem jordan and, Say,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: hey COULD i come sit in and job shadow you
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit ON Byu Sports. Nation seems like a natural.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: Start that's a starting point for him if he wanted
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: to do. It, wait one more piece of information from
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: THE Nba Draft, Combine, James i'll give you a dollar
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: if you can guess Aj debunce's vertical leap forty five ooh,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: Close actually that would have made him. Second Toby lawall
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: had forty five and a half inch, vertical which is just. Absurd, yeah,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: Okay Cameron carr forty two and a, Half Amari allen
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: forty two and a. Half aj De bonce a forty
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: two inches, even fourth best at the twenty twenty SIX
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Nba Draft, Combine.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: So fourth best vertical means he should follow the number.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: Four he's.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: Terrible, yeah don't don't draft, Him, Washington he's. Terrible the
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: vertical way too.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: Low that is just forty vertical is. Ridiculous forty five
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: is even more. So All, right we'll double up Here
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  Speaker 2: Adrian denny to start off our number. Three it's The
• 1:45:17
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• 1:45:20
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• 1:45:23
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• 1:45:33
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• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: Here on A, wednesday on The sean O'Connell, show and.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: We're lucky enough to welcome in our good, Friend Mammoth
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: INSIDER Nhl insider host Of Mammoth, Daily Adrian.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: Denny Adrian, denny welcome back to the.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Show how are you?
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 10: Sir, Hey sean love our weekly. Visits HOW i know a?
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 13: Week it's just Perfect wednesday at, One, like is is
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 13: there a better better part of the week to get?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 13: To and then you're kind of kind of on the
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 13: downhill swing after we, talk headed towards the weekend.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Literally and, Metaphorically, adrian it's, like After i'm done talking
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: to you for the, week the whole week is downhill from.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: There so for me, too you're the peak and then
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: slide on down into the. Weekend all, Right so look
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: The Utah mammoth Are, unfortunately they're out there watching THE
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: Nhl Stanley cup playoffs with the rest of. Us but you,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: know for, players AND i think more importantly for, management for,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: coaches what is the lens you think they are watching
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: the rest of This Stanley cup tournament through because obviously
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: they want to get back to the. Playoffs that's been
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: stated in exit. Interviews they want to be part of
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: the second round and the third round moving. Forward so
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: when you're watching as a, fan these are great. Playoffs
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: when you're watching through the organmanizational, lens what do you
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: think is coloring that lens most right?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 10: Now, yeah they're definitely watching.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 13: INTENTLY i know head Coach Andre turney usually gets out
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 13: and about during the. Playoffs right, now The mammoth aren't
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 13: aren't in him, obviously so i'd expect him to, be you,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 13: know at a at a couple spots watching watching some.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 13: GAMES i know our assistant general Manager John ferguson was
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 13: headed to The Minnesota colorado game one the last we
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 13: saw him last.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 10: Week after after exit.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 13: Interviews so, yeah they're getting out and they're they're watching
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 13: games in, person AND i, think you, know just just
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 13: taking down little, notes just just watching these games intently and, saying,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 13: hmm there's one, thing for, instance you know the power,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 13: play that that one thing that we always talk. About
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 13: That Buffalo montreal game last night finishes three to. Two
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 13: three of the four goals came on the power. Play
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 13: eleven powerplay situations in that. Game Is buffalo gets the
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 13: the series tied up at two After montreal had just
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 13: won a pair of games by four.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 10: Goals so you just you look, at you know what
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 10: what can tilt a?
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 13: Series buffalo changed goaltenders and it and it turned out
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 13: turned out well for. Him but, Yeah utah is digesting
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 13: all of, this you. Know you you look at some
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 13: some stuff on social media and you see some some
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 13: players out on on some golf trips and and taking
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 13: it all in and and maybe some some last few
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 13: days together before they go their separate. Ways and we
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 13: Saw connor McDavid here here In utah vacationing on On.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 13: Instagram but but for the, management it's it's going all
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 13: in watching these playoffs every, night and and a lot
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 13: OF dvr time too because because it's it's going to
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 13: be something that that they'll watch live if they're in,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 13: person watch ON, tv but but definitely going back and
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 13: diving into.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: Them should we start up a conspiracy of sorts With
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: connor McDavid coming To utah immediately after a disappointing end
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: to His edmonton season and some ideas that maybe he'll
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: eventually want to force his way out Of? Edmonton should
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: we start that?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: Rumor?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: Now should we, like should we let a little little
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: fire and start blowing on the sparks?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 13: There i'll tell, You oh see two years ago at this,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 13: TIME i don't think we're opening Up instagram and SEEING
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 13: nhl players vacationing In utah right In.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 10: April, right it's a great.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 13: Spot there's there's all The National parks and And Southern
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 13: utah is great and up here in the. Mountains but
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 13: have we ever seen that? BEFORE i think the words
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 13: gotten out o se AMONGST nhl or starting here with
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 13: with The, mammoth that oh this is this is a
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 13: great place to.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 10: Come you should come here on.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 13: Vacation we're going down to check out that The National
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 13: parks when the season.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 10: Ends you might like it, too and like.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 13: That that's what it struck, me as you, know just
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 13: kind of kind of a game of telephone got talking
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 13: About oh, yeah.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 10: Did you know you could do this?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 13: Here did you know we have that? Here and a
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 13: guy Like connor McDavid, like, well we've never been To utah.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 13: Before let's go To. UTAH i, HEAR i.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 10: Hear it's.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: Great, well we we that live here know that that
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: is oh, heck absolutely. True AND i guess it's nice
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: to know. That you, know SOME nhl guys might be
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: touching down on a vacation and maybe maybe if free
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: agency is impending either immediately or down the line for
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: some of, them they'll have a little seed planted that
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: could grow into something for The Utah mammoth as a.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Franchise and we've talked about this, already but it's clear
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: the reputation of the organization has kind, of you, know
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: permeated conversation in the league where every time and opposing
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: manager and opposing coach and opposing player is talking About utah, like,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: hey they've got a really good thing going. There, well
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: now we're in a time or that could manifest itself
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: into success in a very real.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: Way If Bill armstrong.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: And company are looking at a hot free agent market
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: and maybe trying to lure someone. Here now that there's
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: always cap room conversations and things like. That but there
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: are some not Like megas stars out there. Available there
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: are some pretty interesting names in free agency that'll be
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: testing a free agency market this. Offseason how big a
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: player do you think The mammoth are going to be
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: on some of those bigger.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 13: Names you, know if you look at the last couple of,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 13: years they've made their moves on. Trades they're big moves on,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 13: trades Right, Sergachev. Peterca you could just kind of get
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 13: a little more creative with the cap and with your
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 13: roster when you make. Trades and they've signed the, pieces
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 13: the incremental pieces Like Kevin, Stanlin Na, Schmidt brandon tannev
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 13: V Tech vanichek in free, Agency so looking at, that
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 13: you wouldn't think that they'd go out and make a huge.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 13: Splash And number one that the inventory is the biggest
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 13: uh the biggest challenge that there's just not a. Lot
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 13: utah Signing Nick schmaltz to an eight year, Contract Michael
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 13: carconi do a two year, Contract Logan cooley was going
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 13: to be a restricted free. Agent utah went, out they
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 13: signed their guys before they even get To. July, first
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 13: a lot of teams have done. That columbus just Signed
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 13: Charlie coyle to a six year. Contract that was gonna
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 13: be a top free agent because there's just not a lot.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 13: Left Jason robertson From dallas is a is a restricted free.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 13: Agent that's that's probably the biggest name out there with
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 13: a with a window that that you look. At but
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 13: but oce it's it's just all sets up, right like
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 13: the welcome matt is out. Here like when teams are
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 13: In utah with a day off and a practice, day
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 13: we want them down at The utah man At Ice center.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 13: Practicing we want those players to see the facility and
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 13: be blown away by. It and that's why the visiting
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 13: locker room at The Delta center is really really. NICE
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 13: i know you you watch around the playoffs and there
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 13: there's there's locker rooms like that's seriously AN nhl visiting locker.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 13: Room you hear things about The carolina visiting visiting, room
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 13: but but you know it's you talk about the guys
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 13: coming here on vacations and word of mouth is out
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 13: and you know when you when you're talking to a
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 13: place to go, work you're definitely gonna talk to your
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 13: friends that that work are, like is this this?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 10: Good this this?
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 13: Good move like, yeah, yeah, yeah you gotta, come you gotta,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 13: come you gotta con. Versus, Yeah i've got an interview
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 13: somewhere else at two. O'clock i'll call you back.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: The Delta center immediately after the season, ended you, know
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: the construction crews get in. There and if you're Following
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: Ryan smith on social, media you're seeing how fast some
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: of those changes are already. Happening you've seen the, drafts,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: mockups the gondola. SEATING i, mean, this this arena for
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: basketball and for, hockey is going to be a totally
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: unique and totally different experience than what we have. Seen
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: and there was some kind of joking conversation about like
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: if you make a deep playoff run that affects the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: timeline on the, reconstruction et. Cetera but how MUCH i,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: mean have you thrown on a hard hat and walked
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: in there and take it a look at the. Renovations,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: NO i.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 13: Haven't It's, uh it's it's we we moved our offices
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 13: back to The Sience Bank Basketball. Campus uh the saturday
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 13: after the season. Ended oh, see it is a construction.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 13: Zone team store is open every Day, uh but but
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 13: the broadcasting department is is one you know one department
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 13: that is in The Delta center for the offices is you,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 13: know a lot of a lot of space has been
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 13: relocated to The MAMMOTH I center and and you know
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 13: we've we've got several campuses, around but broadcasting is back
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 13: back of The Science bank basketball, campus so we are
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 13: not in the. Building and last YEAR i left after
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 13: the last Game april, fifteenth AND i wasn't back in
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 13: until the first preseason game and was in the was
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 13: in ppe and a hard hat until opening. Nights so
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 13: it is a it is a full construction. Zone our radio,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 13: Engineer Jeremy potter did call me On, monday WHICH i
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 13: thought was really cool because our radio studios are undergoing
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 13: a renovation as well that we also have a lot
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 13: of space with The Jazz radio and production and And Mammoth,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 13: radio and he wanted my, input he wanted he wanted.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 10: To hear WHAT i. Thought AND i just, thought, gosh
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 10: that's that's really.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 13: Cool he's he's calling, me uh to just to make
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 13: sure his plans for the radio studio are are going
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 13: to work for, me WHICH i thought was really. Nice
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 13: but oh, see you you look at what they're doing
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 13: in there this. Summer they're starting with with the north
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 13: the north end the Upper, bowl and you, know it's
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 13: it's it's being described as terrace style ledges on on
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 13: that north. Side Ryan smith described it as this is
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 13: double black diamond level on on the north side in
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 13: the upper, bowl and it, is it is, steep and
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 13: everybody's gonna have a unique view for for both basketball and.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 13: Hockey the one goal seats are gonna be completely gone
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 13: by the end of next summer when the south side is.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 13: Completed but but they've added a couple of, gondolas one
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 13: on each. Side that'll add a couple hundred uh extra
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 13: extra seats for fans to watch the, game just high
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 13: a top looking straight down on on the. Action so
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 13: it's it's gonna be. AWESOME i looking at these pictures
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 13: and and the video that That Ryan smith put, out
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 13: it it just never never fails to blow your mind.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 13: Away and then on the south side next, summer they're
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 13: they're going to connect the lower bowl and The Upper
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 13: bowl and that's going to be another you, know dynamic
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 13: slope design that that brings everything, together but a totally
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 13: unique view and So we thought the atmosphere was good
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 13: first season two and season, one but when when you
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 13: you add you know the experience of the views that
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 13: that all the fans are going to have from every single,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 13: seat it's it's going to be out of this.
• 1:57:23
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• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: about These Stanley cup playoffs for me is AND i
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: talked With Tom callahan about this earlier in the, week
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like there is as of yet a
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: goaltender who is kind of taking, over which sometimes you
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: see In Stanley cu up hockey where a guy will
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: just start to stand on his, head become an absolute
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: wall and the offense gets a little bit of a
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: break for whatever team that is because nobody can get
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: past your. Goaltender it hasn't happened, Yet is it going
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: to happen or do we not have that level of
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: goaltender remaining with the teams that are still chasing the.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 13: Cuff the one team that's had it is probably the
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 13: team that you would least expect it, from and that's
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 13: The Carolina hurricanes And Frederick, anderson, right he wasn't you
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 13: know their plans starting. Goalie they Signed Brandon bussey to
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 13: a to a contract mid season after claiming him off
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 13: of waivers From florida right after training, camp and he's
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 13: gone eight to. No Jacob dobish From montreal might be
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 13: might be the kid to, watch the twenty four year.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 13: Old he's he's put in some some good action and
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 13: he's he's a he's a fun kid and in the me.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 13: Too you, know it's INTERESTING oc Because colorado's gone back
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 13: and forth on goalies in this, series so His, Minnesota
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 13: vegas And anaheim haven't but neither's been really. Spectacular And
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 13: Lucasto stalin And Carter hart and then you've Got. Buffalo
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 13: they alternated goalies last, night SO i THINK i think
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 13: you look at The Eastern, Conference Jacob dobish And Freddy
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 13: anderson is the two For. Colorado it's it's always, INTERESTING
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 13: oc because they'd never really have come out and named a.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 13: Starter Scott wedgwood started the first what was it For?
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 13: Colorado the first seven? Games and Then Mackenzie blackwood came
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 13: in for game number four In minnesota On Monday. Night
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 13: but those two guys combined for the most wins in
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 13: THE nhl by a goaltending duo this. Year so, YEAH i,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 13: gosh if If Freddy anderson could could Carry, carolina that'd
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 13: be that'd be big for. Him but that would be
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 13: something that you're, like oh, boy how long can he
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 13: keep doing? This in the conference, finals in the finals Against.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 13: Colorado but but those would be the two That i'd watch.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: For as long as we're talking about, goalies what's the
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: market in free agency going to Be? Forbrovski he's not
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: a spring chicken. Anymore he's up there in. Age Stuart
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: SKINNER i believe he also is out, there, yeah on
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: the free agent. Market he's in his late. Twenties so
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: what's the market going to be like for those?
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 13: Guys do you Think edmonton tries to go back and
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 13: Get Stuart skinner after packaging everything to get rid of
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 13: him and then seeing how things ended up for? Him Serge,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 13: bobrovski it's it sounds, like you, know as you listen
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 13: to insiders and experts and know that the way That
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 13: florida brings back their, guys you would think that he
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 13: ends up back In florida with The panthers as they
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 13: look to run it back next year after winning back
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 13: to Back cups and and missing the. Playoffs you you
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 13: haven't heard you know his, name BECAUSE i THINK i
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 13: think most people think that he probably signs With florida
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 13: again to to come. Back, uh you talk About Stuart.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 13: Skinner you, Know pittsburgh has all the cap money in
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 13: the world with you, know an older, team but but
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 13: a younger. Team they've they've got a lot of cap.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 13: Space they can throw anything at him if they like
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 13: that second half of the. Year but they've also got
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 13: a couple young goalies coming up as.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 10: Well, so, uh you Got Peter marazak And.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 13: Anaheim who's who's a backup Tech fanachick obviously with with
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 13: The mammoth is a is an unrestricted free. Agent there's
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 13: not a lot of goalies out. There but BUT i
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 13: think you hit it with Bub rosky and And skinner
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 13: being the top. Two and Does, pittsburgh you, know do
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 13: they go After, skinner keep him long term and and
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 13: keep trying to retool that thing is is cross be
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 13: And malkin get.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: OLDER i think a lot of locals are watching The
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: anaheim Versus vegas series with peaked interest, because of, Course
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: vegas was the team that eliminated our Beloved mammoth from the,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: playoffs and that's been an excellent series so. Far with
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: the overtime, win Did vegas seas? Control we know what
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: the numbers are in playoff hockey for the winner of game.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: Five have you seen anything that makes you think this
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: this series could buck that?
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 13: Trip, gosh you, know we kind of gave him a
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 13: lot of flak in the regular season for all the
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 13: games that they went past regulation in and won and
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 13: overtime or lost in. Overtime but now three of their
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 13: seven wins in The Stanley cup playoffs have come in,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 13: overtime and they've come in pivotal. Games they tied the
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 13: series at two With utah with the overtime, win they
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 13: took the three to two series lead with the double overtime.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 13: Win then last night Against anaheim they win another game
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 13: and in, overtime and you just kind of keep Feeling
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 13: vegas like there's That game, five, six potentially seven feel
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 13: from them and they just keep getting stronger and stronger
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 13: as you go, along and oh, see it's it's it's
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 13: tough when you lose a game in overtime in the
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 13: playoffs because that's a game you, had so you essentially
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 13: have to go win five games in a series Like
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 13: utah would have had essentially had to win six, games
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 13: seven games in that series to win four games just
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 13: because they couldn't close those two games out and. OVERTIME
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 13: i have always felt if you win game, five you
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 13: probably win game.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 10: Six it was a sinking.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 13: Feeling AND i didn't feel it when The mammoth lost
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 13: To vegas BECAUSE i felt they were they were. Rolling
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 13: but you saw How vegas came out and tighten the
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 13: screws down and in game, six and you, know Anaheim
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 13: is is just kind of. Fearless they're they're, young they've
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 13: got some. Veterans they they don't really get. PHASED i
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 13: could see him forcing a game. Seven BUT i think
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 13: if you win a game five and, overtime you probably
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 13: win a game, six just because you know you're you're
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 13: you're that, close and there's the Emotional now we have
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 13: to go win two games when we had one one
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 13: win to get to one win from winning a.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: Series Does colorado close it out?
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: TONIGHT i think.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 10: SO I i kind of got the feeling when it
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 10: was two to, oh, like, okay.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 13: Abs are in control, here even THOUGH, i you, KNOW
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 13: i Thought minnesota would take it BECAUSE i just couldn't
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 13: believe what they did To. Dallas they just they just
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 13: dismantled the second best team in THE nhl in the regular,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 13: season didn't allow anything to.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 10: Them those games didn't feel.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 13: Close colorado had been kind of up and down on
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 13: the second half and they kind of went back and
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 13: forth WITH la even though they swept, Them and then
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 13: they came out and they won the first two, games
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 13: AND i, thought, okay this is this is a probably
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 13: a six game. Series but they come back with the
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 13: three to one, lead a chance to close it out at,
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 13: home and oh. SEE i Think minnesota has had the
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 13: two most dominating players in the series In Crill caprisov
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 13: And Quinn.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 10: Hughes But colorado's just just.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 13: Overpowering they're they're coming at you like their their third,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 13: line their fourth. Line they're getting like they're getting huge.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 13: Goals it's it's just it's not all McKinnon And Marty
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 13: natchius and And Gabe lanieskog And valon The.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 10: Shuska, no it's.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 13: It's like guys Like Ross colton on their third line
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 13: is is getting big goals for. Him The abs are
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 13: pretty well. Connected and shame on me for, thinking, Uh
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 13: minnesota was gonna go in and do. IT i, Mean
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 13: minnesota was really good in That game, three and they
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 13: just couldn't duplicate it In game. Four because they love
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 13: That game. Three they're, like this is how we want
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 13: to play, it and they just couldn't do. It they
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 13: couldn't they couldn't power Pass colorado into.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: Straight Is carolina's dominance in these first two series gonna
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: come back to actually hurt. Them they're getting, rest but
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: maybe excessive.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 10: REST i don't think.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 13: SO i think they're the best team in The Eastern.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 13: CONFERENCE i think they're gonna play the winner Of Montreal,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 13: buffalo which is. Yesterday at this, time the series is
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 13: two to, one and it felt like three to one
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 13: because The habs had just won two blowout games in a.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 13: Row BUT i think by the, time you, know if It's,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 13: montreal they're gonna potentially have back to back seven game.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 10: Series they Beat Tampa bay and. Seven they This buffalo.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 13: SERIES i, mean it looks ticketed to seven right now
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 13: as it's tied to TO i Think carolina's got the best.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 13: TEAM i think the rest is gonna help. THEM i
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 13: THINK i think they're. CONNECTED i don't think that they'll
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 13: come out and be.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 10: Flat.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 13: CAROLINA i, mean, gosh they had the best record in
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 13: The Eastern, conference but first fifty sixty games of the,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 13: Year i'm not sure they had the same lineup two
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 13: games in a. Row they went through a lot of,
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 13: injuries they had to call a lot of guys up
• 2:07:04
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• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: conversation about an expanded college football. Playoff THE acc says
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: twenty four, teams that's the way we got to.
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  Speaker 3: Go is that really a good idea for THE?
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  Speaker 2: power four, conferences but not the powerful of The power four.
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  Speaker 2: emerging from THE Nba scouting combine multiple reports now that
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  Speaker 2: Aj De bons and his camp have actually indicated that
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  Speaker 2: their preference would be to remain in the state Of.
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  Speaker 3: Utah he and his family all live here.
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  Speaker 2: Now he Loves, utah and THAT i think matters in
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: this draft process as everyone tries to figure out.
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  Speaker 3: What the pecking order. Is one two three.
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  Speaker 2: Four Utah jazz of course selecting at number, two so
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  Speaker 2: of course all of us here In utah are going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about. That but now it's becoming a national.
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  Speaker 2: Story one of the top prospects in THE Nba draft
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  Speaker 2: has a strong preference reportedly to stay In. Utah it's
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  Speaker 2: important to note though not interested in playing The, HEY
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  Speaker 3: At least according to the reports so, far so we'll
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  Speaker 3: keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 2: THAT i talked earlier in the show and With Freddy
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  Speaker 2: coleman about the proposal to expand from Twelve College Football
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  Speaker 2: playoff teams to twenty. Four THE acc and their Commissioner
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: Jim phillips, said, yeah we want to move to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Four reports are that the big ten of THE sec
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: wants to move to twenty. Four interestingly, enough the official
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  Speaker 2: company line FROM, espn who of course is the biggest
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  Speaker 2: college football partner and the owner of the rights for
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  Speaker 2: The College Football playoff, broadcasting has said we want to
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  Speaker 2: stay at.
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  Speaker 3: Twelve so we'll have to figure that out as it.
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  Speaker 2: Progresses THAT espn doesn't want to continue to share more
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  Speaker 2: and more revenue and alter the college football.
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  Speaker 3: Schedule maybe that drastically.
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  Speaker 2: From A UTAH byu excuse, me A big twelve, PERSPECTIVE
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  Speaker 2: i think an expanded college football playoff one of the
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  Speaker 2: things that isn't talked about yet because of, course you,
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  Speaker 2: know it's all just an idea for. Now if you're
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  Speaker 2: asking college football players to potentially play five playoff games
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  Speaker 2: in addition to their twelve team their twelve games, slate
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  Speaker 2: that's AN nfl regular season right. There eventually there's going
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: to be a player or, two or ten or thirty
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  Speaker 2: two first rounders that, say, YEAH i don't Think i'm
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: playing five playoff. Games if you structure your bracket the
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: same way that the fcs is structured its, bracket, Right
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  Speaker 2: you've got your top eight, seeds get a first round.
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  Speaker 2: By everybody else plays the first round, game and then
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  Speaker 2: if you're in that first round, game you're potentially playing
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  Speaker 2: five games on your way to a national. Championship, now
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: the more likely path is that the first round by
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: gives you an opportunity to skip that first, game but
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  Speaker 2: you're still playing four playoff games in order to get
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: to a national.
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  Speaker 3: Championship collected bargaining is not a thing in college.
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  Speaker 2: Sports if you are AN sec school and your guy your,
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  Speaker 2: best you, know you're starting, quarterback you're.
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  Speaker 3: Leading wide, receiver you're running.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: Back they're all on multimillion dollar quote unquote anil. Deals
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: you probably have a little bit less resistance because you're
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: providing you, know elite level.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: Compensation they probably still want.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: More and again it's something that will have to be
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: put into, contracts just like The, hey if you, transfer
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: you got to pay some money. Back there's going to
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: be some. Buyouts we're gonna have to adjust these things
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: on the. Fly if the college Football playoff continues to,
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: expand if you're a big twelve, team especially a big
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: twelve team like Byu Utah Texas tech Maybe Arizona, state
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: that is you, know hopefully knock on wood in the
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: conversation to be in an expanded college football playoff more
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: years than, not.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 3: Recruits are going to know.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: That families are going to, know high school coaches are
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: going to know. Agents most importantly are going to know.
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  Speaker 3: That all, right.
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  Speaker 2: Byu Utah Texas, tech Asu arizona's pretty good this, year
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  Speaker 2: you know, what let's count on let's count on this
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: being a fourteen game, season no conference championship, game in
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: an expanded model like. This but let's say that the
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 2: hope is for this coaching staff that you're, committing you're
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: transferring in your deal.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 3: Is a million.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Dollars, well do we think that a million dollars is
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: enough to play twelve? Games?
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah we. Do do we think a million dollars is
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: enough to pay to.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: Play fourteen games or fifteen games for this? School maybe
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: we're going to change our calculus a little. Bit that's
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: just the unfortunate reality of the bigger pie that is
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: being offered with more college football playoff, games more. Revenue
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: everybody wants a piece of. It and IT'S i, say
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: it's a. Problem it's a problem to, solve not a
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: problem that you're just, like, oh we're not going to
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: deal with.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: That it's a problem that you have to. Solve and the.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: Problem the way you solve that problem is you do
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: share the. Revenue we have seen, though several schools now
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: starting to pair down their athletic.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: Department so was it last?
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: Week was It arkansas that got rid of their tennis
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: programs because they can't keep? UP i mean that's AN sec.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: Team that's AN sec team taking their, share their full
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: share OF sec, revenues which are more, robust more lucrative
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: than anything that.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: The big twelve is going to be.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: Distributing in, fact we saw That utah's fiscal year twenty twenty.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: Five remember you're getting a lot of these like a
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: little bit. Late their revenue distributions were like one hundred
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: and twenty one million, dollars If i'm not MISTAKEN byu
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: is not even getting a full share, yet and they
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: were twenty million dollars ahead of Where utah was.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: At this is total athletic department, revenue and those numbers
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: are not what you were seeing from The Big ten
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: and from THE.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: Sec now we didn't get the full full story yet
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: on any of this, stuff but the gap is, there
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: and the gap continues to, grow and the gap will
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: continue to.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: Grow and, yes college football playoff money.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 2: Is going to bring in more to the, conference more
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: to conference, members more to the schools that participate in
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 2: and expand in college football. Playoff if you're getting two
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: and three teams from The big twelve, conference that Means
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: utah a lot more likely to get in when it's
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: a one bid league like it will be in a
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 2: twelve team format THAT espn wants to. KEEP i, mean,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: yeah do you have a shot at The university Of
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: utah of getting that one bid every single? Year of
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: course that's the. Hope but is it something that you
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: can count? On are those revenues something that you can
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: pencil into your balance?
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: Sheet absolutely.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: Not Texas TECH Byu Arizona state every once in a, While.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: HOUSTON i, mean these teams Are baylors gonna rear its
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: ugly head every four to six. Years these teams are
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 2: going to have something to say about. It and even
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: if you do make it to The College Football playoff
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: in an expanded, format more money comes. In all, good that's.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: Wonderful more money's going to go out to your player's
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: gonna ask for a little bit. More and in an ideal,
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: world the pie gets, sliced, however many, times and the
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: athletic department still is able to serve the pie because
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: there's enough.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: Leftover, hey we got This Spencer.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: Fano if we want him to stay with us for
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: the entire playoff, run when he's got a first round
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: grade on, him we better pay him some. More, okay
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 2: gotta do. It let's peel off a little extra for. Him,
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: great but it's stuff you have to account. For it's
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: stuff that you have to acknowledge is going to be
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: there for people to, discuss there for people to. Demand
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: and in the.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: Big, ten in THE, sec you're more equipped to handle.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: It in The big twelve and THE acc who are being, told,
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: hey this is the model we're going to. Support, now,
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: guys you want to keep getting invited to the, party
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: you're going to get on board with us saying that
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: this is what the party. Wants just know that this
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: is part and parcel to all of this being a.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: Rule, change all of this being put into. Place AND
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: i don't have a problem with it either. WAY i
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 3: really don't.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: LIKE i don't think we need a twenty fourteen. Bracket
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: ALTHOUGH fcs playoffs are, awesome they really. Are you got
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: to reduce your regular season a little. Bit you got
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: to start your regular season a little bit. Earlier the
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: COACH afca already said, yes we want to do, That
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 2: so go ahead and do.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 3: It go ahead and push this change.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: Forward go ahead and tell the big, bosses your big,
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: partner your broadcast. Partners they know this is what's best
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 2: for college, football and the fan base is gonna get on.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: Board all of us are gonna be, like all, RIGHT
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: i guess the season starts two weeks before. School, NOW
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: i Guess i'm going to A utah football game Mid
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: august in the hopes That i'm also going to a
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: playoff game in Mid december instead of sitting there waiting
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: twiddling my thumbs for whatever bowl game comes up. Next
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: folks will get on board if that's what you tell
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: them they've got to. Do but there is going to
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: be a cost associated with, it and everyone has to
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: plan for that. Cost and the cost is already the
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: biggest problem in college. Football so an increased, cost even
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: with increased, revenue an increased cost is a problem you've
• 2:21:52
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• 2:25:22
  Speaker 15: those mornings WHERE i was getting, up got some, exercise came,
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 15: home was gonna get ready to prep for the, show
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 15: AND i just turned around and looked in the. Mirror i'm, like,
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 15: DUDE i feel LIKE i look LIKE i feel Like
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  Speaker 15: i've aged like five years in the last one.
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  Speaker 8: Years that's the type of Day i'm. Having do you
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 8: ever have days like?
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: That every day is like. THAT i have aged like
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: a Banana spence every, day he, says my entire my
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: beard is white Like Santa.
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 3: Claus, Now i'm forty two years.
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  Speaker 15: Old you are too young to have as Because i'm
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 15: getting to the point WHERE i Think i'm about two
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 15: or three years away from basically having mostly a white.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 15: Beard but you're too young for the amount of white
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 15: that you. Have sean And i'm talking about your, beard
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 15: not just in, general.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: Well probably, both but, yeah, no it's it's a sobering.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 2: Reality the mirror is it becomes an enemy at a
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: certain point of fitness in your.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 3: Life not necessarily, age.
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: But those two things go hand in, hand Right, yeah
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: and you know, it it's we're not friends right, now
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: and that's.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, YEAH i got to get used to.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 8: It, Yeah i'm embracing. It i'm embracing. IT i JUST
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 8: i don't.
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 15: Know MAYBE i didn't sleep that. Well maybe it was
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 15: the bag under the. Eyes it hit me pretty hard.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 15: Today i'm, like, dude you got to got to up
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 15: your skincare routine or. Something it's not going. WELL i
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 15: have a question for, you, Though Sean. Ready, Yeah, so
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 15: THE nfl is announced they're going to play nine international
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 15: games this, year AND i often reference This gallup poll
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 15: that was released last year that talked about the most
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 15: popular sports In america and talked about the most popular
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 15: sports in the.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 8: World In, america it Is american football by.
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 15: Far it's basketball, too and for the first time in,
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 15: history soccer's, three baseball, four hockey. Five, internationally it's soccer,
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 15: one basketball. Two and then IF i remember, correctly like
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 15: there's a cricket in, there because it's obviously massively popular Like,
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 15: india and there's so many people. THERE i don't know about,
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 15: you but every TIME i watch AN nfl game, INTERNATIONALLY
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 15: i don't get the vibe that people are all that into.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 15: It you think this is a way For Roger goodell
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 15: to maybe start the process of trying to Sell american football,
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 15: overseas so at some point maybe they have teams over.
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  Speaker 2: There, well we started the show here today as, well
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  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i looked at a nine game, slate two games
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: for My San francisco forty nine ers that are no
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: longer on domestic, soil And i'm, Like, OKAY i get,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: it but why so many and why to all these different,
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: places like the international expansion of the D i imagine
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: for THE, nfl it's tantalizing to see what can happen
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: when you have A chinese market suddenly caring about, basketball
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: and when you have a Full european continent market caring
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: about basketball and spending time and money and television broadcast
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: packages and merch and tickets.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: And all that kind of.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: Stuff AND i can see why THE nfl wants a
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: slice of that But i'm wondering where the blind spot
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: exists for, myself because they pay too many, people too
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: much money for the blind spot to be in THE nfl.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 2: Offices But i'm looking the same way you, are And i'm,
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: saying hold on a, minute, like is Sal Paulo brazil
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 2: Or rio De, Janeiro brazil really going to end up
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 2: being a LUCRATIVE nfl market For Roger goodell and his ownership?
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: Partners are we really talking About american, football which has
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: virtually no presence in that nation catching, On LIKE i get.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: It In germany they have some like domestic leagues there
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: on military bases, especially and things like. That there's a
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: little bit of a foothold for like a tiny, one
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: a foothold For american football In. Japan so by all,
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: means go play A tokyo game if that's what you
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: want to. Do WHEN i see some of the choices
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: and some of the we jokingly went, through like the
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: marketing rights that EVERY nfl team has based on their,
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: region based on their global, region it's, like, Okay like
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: for some, reason THE nfl decided that The Kansas City
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: chiefs are the team to sell To New. Zealand what
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: why so nobody grows up playing. Football it is a.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 3: Complicated sport to.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: Learn it is a complicated sport to try to get
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 2: going at the grassroots level because you need the.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 3: Equipment and THE nfl is in such a unique.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: Position in my, Opinion, spence because they can force feed.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 2: It they have the money to force feed it in
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 2: way that like cricket can't do to us here in
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: The United. States if they tried to sell cricket long
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: enough here in The United, states sure maybe some people
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: will jump on, board but they're not just printing money
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: the way THE nfl. Is So i'm fascinated to see
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: what the end result. IS i don't think it's going
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: to be What Roger goodell and THE nfl, want.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 15: Though, yeah in a, WAY i look at it through
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 15: the prism of how long people tried to sell soccer
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 15: To americans before it even had a small, breakthrough you
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 15: know WHAT i. MEAN i mean there was a league
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 15: way back in the day with The New York cosmos or,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 15: whatever And, pele the greatest of all, time was playing
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 15: soccer here and everyone's, like, yeah we're all set.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 8: Here good, effort but no.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks, yeah that's by the, way that's in a nation
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: where most of us our first sport that we play
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: when we're little toddlers is.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 3: Soccer, yeah that's a good. Point, yep you play soccer and.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: You play t. Ball that's what you sign your kids up,
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: for because they're the easiest thing to get started. On
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: and even that took so long For americans to adopt
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: and to, love and, honestly Most americans still don't adopt
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: in love soccer nearly at the level that the rest
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 2: of the world. DOES i just don't know how you sell,
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: Football american football to a, nation or to nations or
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 2: to entire international markets that have never and probably will
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: never Have Little league football, there college football, there high
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: school football.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 3: There that's why we love it so much.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 2: HERE i don't know how you get people to jump
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: on board with zero participation.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 8: Elsewhere, yeah and we do this thing As.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 15: Americans we think because we love, it everyone else should
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 15: love it and will love. It and, LOOK i Think
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 15: american football is the BEST tv show in all of.
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 15: Sports AND i also believe THE nfl is the best
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 15: spectator experience we have to respect to college. Football it's
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 15: also awesome in its own, rate excuse, me its own.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 15: Right if you've never been to AN nfl, game they
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 15: do an awesome. Job pretty much wherever you. Go THE
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 15: nfl consumer experience is. Incredible but just because we love it,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 15: HERE i don't know that it's going to be something
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 15: that people are going to embrace. OVERSEAS i suppose if
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 15: you're a, goodell if you're THE, nfl maybe you're just
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 15: starting to pave a pathway that maybe in a generation from,
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 15: now will finally embrace this. Sport but it also took
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 15: THE nba a long time to carve out a viable international.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 8: Footprint it really did start in ninety two with The Dream.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 15: Team but if you go back and look at the
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 15: scores of that, experience you, know now these games are
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 15: close and compelling Because france is, good And spain is,
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 15: good and Even australia is, good and you know The
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 15: germans had run With dirk and obviously you know The
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 15: serbian national team is quality as. Well you go back
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 15: to ninety, two they were beating teams by a. Million
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 15: because basketball wasn't a global. Footprint it took about fifteen
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 15: to twenty years for the rest of the world to
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 15: kind of catch up and everybody else to completely fall
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 15: in love with. Basketball then don't ever underestimate the effect Of,
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 15: yao who basically opened up the doorway To. China Darryl
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 15: moore got fired, today by the, way speaking Of, china
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 15: and that opened up a huge global market plays. Footprint
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 15: maybe if there's some great Like german quarterback that comes
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 15: over and Wins Super bowls with The niners or, something
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 15: maybe football will resonate over.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 8: There BUT i find it an interesting.
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 15: Choice and again WHEN i first saw the, news my reaction, was,
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 15: well every TIME i watch an INTERNATIONAL nfl, game the
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 15: fans seem to be sitting on their.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 8: Hands maybe that changes with.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: TIME i will die thinking. THAT a reason why basketball
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 2: caught on the way that it did is because Young, Spanish,
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 2: French Serbian croatian kids saw the hype around basketball and,
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: said you know, What i'm gonna go play basketball today
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: instead of. Soccer i'm going to pick up a basketball
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: And i'm going to chuck it at this root of
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 2: man entry, hoop the five hundred dollars hoop that somebody
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 2: in town hung on a wall. Somewhere and my belief
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 2: will always be that's a huge reason why the sport
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: has grown so much and the same In china and
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 2: the same everywhere. ELSE i don't know how you make
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: that happen when you need, helmets, pads, cleats, goalposts. Etc
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 2: In order to get that level of adoption In american.
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 2: Football but THE nfl is unique in that they have
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 2: the money and apparently the bandwidth Under Roger goodell to
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: fake it until they make it to just, like, yeah we're,
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: investing we're, investing we're, investing show, up do. THIS i
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: mean they're running football camps on The african continent.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 3: Spends i've spent a lot of time.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: There i've been TO i think eight Different african. COUNTRIES
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: i have not seen one level of interest or had
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: one decent conversation About american football with Any african That
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: i've ever. Met it just doesn't have a presence. There.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: Yet THE nfl is, like, yeah, no we're going to do, this, guys,
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: like let's. Go SO i think they're forcing, it and
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: maybe they're powerful enough to force. It but The saudis
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 2: weren't powerful enough to force golf at five billion dollar
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 2: expense through the live. Experiment so that's to me the
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: most interesting comparison right now with what THE nfl is
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: trying to do, yeah.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 8: The other, thing and Then i'll set you loose BECAUSE
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 8: i know you got to get to.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 2: It but like You're.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 15: Niners they're showing this On Sports. Center Your niners are
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 15: going to travel like forty two thousand miles this. Year,
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 15: yeah you, Know and, LOOK i know you're flying in
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 15: five star hotels in the. Sky they're. Not Kyle shanahan
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 15: is in a middle seat in. COACH i understand. That
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 15: but you're also asking a lot of your teams, to you,
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 15: know show up and perform when you're traveled as much
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 15: as they. Are so, LOOK i don't, know, Man maybe
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 15: in a generation from, now football can kind of do
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 15: what soccer is done here and not necessarily take over the,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 15: masses the carve out a market share where it is.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 8: Viable we'll.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 2: See we'll hold our breath for it for the next twenty.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 3: Years stay tuned for The drive With.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: Spence. Checkus thanks for listening to The sean O'Connell. Show
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: one more from The road this week and Then i'm
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: back On, Friday so hang with.
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