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Discipline and Stability: Shannon Sharpe Steps Away From ESPN and Michelle Obama Speaks On Relationship · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
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  Speaker 1: What's up y'all? It's Lauren l Rosa. This is the
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  Speaker 3: Now. I'm your home gird.
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  Speaker 1: It knows a bit about everything and everybody. So today
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  Speaker 1: joining me and Patrick'll say hey to Patrick was good, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon is here, Brandon, I don't know what you want
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  Speaker 3: Or like what you want to go by.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Brandon. Instagram is d dot d dot Underscore twenty seven.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not copying anybody's name. That's what they called me
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  Speaker 4: since college. Yeah, and I was just highly surprised. Laurena
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  Speaker 4: asked me to come on here with her today because
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  Speaker 4: I was being very opinionated at work and just you know,
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  Speaker 4: talk about topics.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, hey, come on the show.
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  Speaker 4: So I said, why not where you work at orcat
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  Speaker 4: power one on one with the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a producer on the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I swhear me and Lauren get our our argument.
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  Speaker 4: Argument usually just give me a real dirty look. I
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  Speaker 4: have to take back what I said.
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  Speaker 3: So today what we do. You know, We're going to
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  Speaker 3: get into a couple of things.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys would love hearing from Brandon and
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  Speaker 1: got to do a check in behind the scenes of
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  Speaker 1: the grind. This is where we check in and we
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  Speaker 1: just see, you know, how people are feeling. But the
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  Speaker 1: rules with our check in are that you have to
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  Speaker 1: use one word and you.
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  Speaker 3: Can describe why you said that one word, but you got.
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  Speaker 1: To do it one word first, and you gotta be
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  Speaker 1: real about it, Like if you're not feeling it today,
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  Speaker 1: you can be like I'm down.
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  Speaker 3: So we start off Patrick, how are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling great. We just came back from Dell State
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  Speaker 3: last night late, but we still got to it.
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  Speaker 1: For those who don't know, I graduated from Delaware State University.
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  Speaker 1: Love my HBCU, so I go back often, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: whenever they ask me to. If I can accommodate, I
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  Speaker 1: try to because I know how important it is for
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  Speaker 1: the students to see somebody that's like really out here
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  Speaker 1: doing things that's not like eighty years old.
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  Speaker 3: Up close and personal. So I went.
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  Speaker 1: They were honoring a lot of the student athletes. They
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  Speaker 1: have a lot going on with the athletic program. That
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  Speaker 1: Sean Jackson is there now. He was there as well
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  Speaker 1: last night. If you want to see some of that.
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  Speaker 1: We did do videos, so make sure you're following me
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  Speaker 1: YouTube as well too, and photos. We'll have photos posted.
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  Speaker 1: So that was that was dope to be able to take,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Patrick to my HBCU.
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  Speaker 3: But Brandon, yes, how you feeling today?
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  Speaker 2: Feeling activated?
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  Speaker 3: I know that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm feeling activated. You know I made, you know, a.
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  Speaker 4: Little hundred dollars on the stock market, so.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a financial advisor at all. I've been taking
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  Speaker 4: big losses.
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  Speaker 2: That's why. That's why today is a little different.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like you're excited today.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm glad you're feeling activated. I'm glad you're stick
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  Speaker 1: it to your goal. It's summertime. You trying to have
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  Speaker 1: the guns out.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, No, I.
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  Speaker 3: Feel good as well too.
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  Speaker 1: I think because the weather is warm, I'm feeling energized,
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  Speaker 1: which is ironic because we were out last night at
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  Speaker 1: Dell State.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, the weather is nice outside.
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  Speaker 1: My niece is here and she's gonna be at American Dreams,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ride go by and see her.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just up. So yes, now let's get on into
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  Speaker 3: the latest.
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  Speaker 1: I would say we're taking y'aut of court, but again
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  Speaker 1: this hasn't even made it the court yet. But you
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  Speaker 1: know your girl love to take y'aull of court. Lot
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  Speaker 1: to take y'all a court. Shannon Sharp just posted a
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  Speaker 1: statement to his Instagram. The statement that he posted is
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  Speaker 1: actually have a screenshot of a text that he sent
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  Speaker 1: to someone, so it says my statement is found here
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  Speaker 1: and this is the truth. The relationship in question was
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent consensual. At this juncture, I am electing
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  Speaker 1: to step aside temporarily from my duties at ESPN. I
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  Speaker 1: would be devoting this time to my family and responding
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  Speaker 1: to and dealing with these false and disruptive allegations set
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  Speaker 1: against me. I plan to return to ESPN at the
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  Speaker 1: start of the NFL preseason. I sincerely appreciate the overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: and ongoing support I've received from my family, fans, friends
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  Speaker 1: and colleagues.
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  Speaker 3: Shannon Sharp. When is NFL preseason Brandon usually.
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  Speaker 4: In the summertime, in the summer, so like around August.
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  Speaker 3: So he's supposed to be over fairly quick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could almost have predicted that this
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  Speaker 1: is what was going to happen. Yeah, which is why
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  Speaker 1: I had been reaching out trying to, you know, figure
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  Speaker 1: out previously, like was ESPN going to make the call
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  Speaker 1: or was he and not because I want to see
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  Speaker 1: anybody out of a job, I think. I think in
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  Speaker 1: a matter like this, it is very unfortunate that you
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  Speaker 1: can't wait until something has actually been proven or disproven,
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  Speaker 1: like guilty not guilty, Like he can't keep his job
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  Speaker 1: until then. But it's just how it works with brands,
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  Speaker 1: especially a brand like an ESPN Disney, because those brands
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  Speaker 1: don't want, like Disney like esp the big money.
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  Speaker 3: They want to stay out of the muddy waters.
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  Speaker 1: And even though Shannon Sharp has not been proven guilty
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  Speaker 1: of anything that has been alleged against him, it's still
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  Speaker 1: a lot of conversation around the brand every single time
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  Speaker 1: he gets on television on that show. Yeah, Like people
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  Speaker 1: are like, well, why is why is he still there?
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  Speaker 1: Last night, literally I was reading a reddit, like a
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  Speaker 1: long conversation on Reddit, and then I saw, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some conversation online on Twitter, and sad to say, the
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  Speaker 1: court of public opinion matters to these brands, like they
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  Speaker 1: care about what their image is, guilty or not guilty
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  Speaker 1: if you're the person in question. And when I started
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  Speaker 1: to see these things, that's what made me reach out
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  Speaker 1: and say, hey, look, you know, because people are online
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  Speaker 1: talking about this, I'm starting to see more stories. Because
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  Speaker 1: there was a story that came out I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was a Yahoo. They did this story early Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: the twenty third, that Shannon Sharp was not let go
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  Speaker 1: from ESPN right now. Since then, there has been more
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  Speaker 1: audio that has come out, There's been text messages, there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation. The photo of the woman
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  Speaker 1: the accuser in question has come out. There's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of online discourse as well. Because all of those things,
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  Speaker 1: Shannon Shart posting a video, all that stuff, it makes
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  Speaker 1: it bigger, makes people talk about it more, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but it's not uncommon at all, and it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't signal that he's guilty at all.
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  Speaker 3: It could honestly be a couple of things.
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  Speaker 1: What I predict that happened is ESPN needed to make
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  Speaker 1: a decision for their brand, to protect their brand, to
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  Speaker 1: protect their shows, and protect protect their other talent because
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  Speaker 1: he's on first take with Steven Naseman, which is unfair.
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  Speaker 1: It puts everybody in a very unfair position. So I
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  Speaker 1: get it, and this is what happens. We were all
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  Speaker 1: in here when he posted a statement that literally just happened.
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  Speaker 1: What y'all think of the statement outside of it being
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  Speaker 1: not a text from him but a text.
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  Speaker 4: To him, I think the statement is fair. I actually
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  Speaker 4: thought that was a good amount of time. You said
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  Speaker 4: the summertime like NFL preseason times a little soon. I
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  Speaker 4: thought that's enough time to really figure out, you know,
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  Speaker 4: conclude everything that's going on, or and then him come
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  Speaker 4: back like a fresh slate. Hopefully he learns from this situation.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to get here yet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but he seemed very like green about all this, verry
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  Speaker 4: naive about having all this recorded. If he is, if
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  Speaker 4: this is just a situation of him doing like BDSM
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  Speaker 4: and just that type of kink they have together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's the case, I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Very negligent on his behalf to just have so much
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  Speaker 4: evidence that writing and audio of it there was trust there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what it is for me.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, as this developed in the story
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  Speaker 1: comes out, because even in us talking about it in
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  Speaker 1: here today, I'm just trying to figure out where, like,
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  Speaker 1: if there was trust there as it seems to have been,
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  Speaker 1: where did that go wrong? If this is just a
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  Speaker 1: case of him just you know, that's how they get off, right, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, that's what makes it tricky, and to see like
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  Speaker 4: there might be something way more to just the kink
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  Speaker 4: or just text message.
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  Speaker 3: It's something way more on some sides.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted you to tell me because you said
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  Speaker 1: that in that article mentioned in twenty twenty three to
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  Speaker 1: now what else does.
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  Speaker 4: It say that they had consensual sexual activity with Jane
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  Speaker 4: Doe about one hundred times in both Los Angeles and
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  Speaker 4: Nevada from late twenty twenty two to January twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: I knew when I read the headline, I'm like, this
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  Speaker 1: has to be sourced somewhere close to or you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, something coming from Shannon Sharp's side, because
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  Speaker 1: it's they're trying to you know, continue to push the
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  Speaker 1: narrative of and just further expose the narrative of this
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  Speaker 1: was a consensual relationship according to Shannon Shark, and in
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  Speaker 1: this statement comes right after I literally reached out to
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  Speaker 1: ESPN because reports at beginning there were more reports that
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  Speaker 1: begin to happen about Shannon Sharp being let go from
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  Speaker 1: ESPN and them, you know what I mean, saying hey, we're.
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  Speaker 3: Good off you.
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  Speaker 1: So I reached out to sources close to production over
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  Speaker 1: there just to figure out what's going on, Like is
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  Speaker 1: this true? Because I see the reports and then people
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  Speaker 1: will report that it's not true, and then I see
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  Speaker 1: it again and like, what's what's up?
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  Speaker 3: I need to know for myself.
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  Speaker 1: And what I was told was that, you know, Shannon
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  Speaker 1: Sharp at the time before he just announced that he's
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  Speaker 1: stepping away, was on the it was business as usual.
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  Speaker 3: He's there Monday, Tuesday, he's not there.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of the week, and if anything changed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we would know. We'll have to, you know, see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a long it's be a long summer.
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  Speaker 4: What do you what are your thoughts on people like
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  Speaker 4: from the outside kind of showing that they've never been
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  Speaker 4: on his side.
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  Speaker 2: Or like everybody kind of dog piling him now with like.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the Matt Barnes audio came out the shack don
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  Speaker 4: rawlins Babe Mama, Like everybody's kind of like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Not flipping, but yeah, it's a crazy dog pole going on.
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  Speaker 3: I think it comes to the territory. I'm not surprised
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think more so it's like I think people kind
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  Speaker 1: of think that it's funny, Like I'm seeing a lot
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  Speaker 1: like there are a lot of people who are like,
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  Speaker 1: he's weird as hell.
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  Speaker 3: That girl is way too young.
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  Speaker 1: But the jokes that people are making, I'm like, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not jokes about what happened to the alleged victim.
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  Speaker 1: It's more so jokes about Shannon Sharp just doing too
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  Speaker 1: damn much democracy.
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  Speaker 4: It's like him always like kind of coming at people
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  Speaker 4: for messing with younger women and making fun of them.
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  Speaker 2: And he's bessing with a nineteen year old.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, early twenties took her off from I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know, no nineteen when they
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  Speaker 1: started though, but now she's in her early twenties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's that Cat Williams video. Let's throw that
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  Speaker 3: on in here.
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  Speaker 4: Just for you know, they don't want to get with
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  Speaker 4: a white woman because I was scared she might have
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  Speaker 4: me running down the street like Jonathan Chah.
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  Speaker 5: Not because I didn't like white women.
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  Speaker 3: I think white women are as great as any other women.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not gonnac like.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not scared of them.
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  Speaker 2: I have a reason to be scared. You could be King.
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  Speaker 4: The conqueror and they could take your rabbit ass down.
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  Speaker 2: In two weekends.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the truth of the matter.
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  Speaker 1: So what happens, you know what I mean, especially when
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  Speaker 1: Cat Williams prediction your year.
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  Speaker 3: All right, y'all, so moving on.
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  Speaker 1: This is the reason why I got Brandon here, don't
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  Speaker 1: say all me and now. So Michelle Obama has a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about her podcasts. On this podcast, I enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: it so much. I'm learning so much about her. But
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  Speaker 1: she's just really good at being vulnerable insurance parent, and
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  Speaker 1: she has great guests.
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  Speaker 3: She had Taraji p.
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  Speaker 1: Hinton on her podcast or podcast, Michelle Obama's podcast it's
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  Speaker 1: called in My Opinion, So they sit down with your
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  Speaker 1: talking about her career and the decisions that she's made.
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  Speaker 1: And Taragi has been very vocal about the spiritual journey
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  Speaker 1: that she went on. She talked about it when she
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  Speaker 1: came to the Breakfast Club as well, where she's learned
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  Speaker 1: a lot about herself and saying no and protecting her
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  Speaker 1: peace and you know, because she was in a really
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  Speaker 1: dark place at one point, so she's had to be
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  Speaker 1: more just protective of everything. And Michelle Obama starts having
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with Taraji about you know, her saying no
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  Speaker 1: and her protecting her piece and her being able to
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  Speaker 1: speak out for herself and be vulnerable. This led into
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  Speaker 1: this conversation. Now, I remember when Michelle Obama first made
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  Speaker 1: the comments, some of the comments she's referencing. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the other YouTube video of her where she's sitting
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  Speaker 1: down a revolt with Anjie Martinez and Kelly Rowland and
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  Speaker 1: Winnnie Harlowe and all of the girls. So this is
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  Speaker 1: back in December of twenty twenty two. Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 5: But there were ten years why I couldn't stay my
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  Speaker 5: husband and say that taking all years and guess when
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  Speaker 5: it happened when those kids were little, right, yes, right?
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  Speaker 5: Because you know you can be all great individually when
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  Speaker 5: you when you're just married, you got your life, he's
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  Speaker 5: got his.
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  Speaker 2: You come together. It's like, oh, get.
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  Speaker 5: To see ye take it easy and then you have kids,
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  Speaker 5: suck taking taking anything you're traveling, that's great. Good, I
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  Speaker 5: can hang out watch the TV. I want to watch her.
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  Speaker 5: The minute we had kids, it was like where are
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  Speaker 5: you going and how far? And you start measuring. It's
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  Speaker 5: like how many diapers did you change?
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  Speaker 3: And oh you're golfing? You have time?
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  Speaker 5: Oh you go?
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  Speaker 3: How you at the gym all the time? You were
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  Speaker 3: right right, Well, I'm like.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's when all the measuring starts, because you got
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  Speaker 5: this project and guess what little kids they're terrorist.
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  Speaker 3: Brandon was pissed off at those comments.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not pissed off. It's a little fresh thrating.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to right So I'm listening at this one with
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  Speaker 4: Angie Martinez and Kelly and the rest of the gang.
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  Speaker 4: So she was like, I hated my husband ten years
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  Speaker 4: and if I heard right, Edge was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you do say that. That's my issue.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I feel like she says it a lot,
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  Speaker 4: like she takes every opportunity to tell us how much
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  Speaker 4: you hated the greatest black man, what of the greatest
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  Speaker 4: black men? To ever live, and it's just like, dang,
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  Speaker 4: what can we do? Like, I'm sorry if I don't
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  Speaker 4: have time to change diators. I'm the leader of the
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  Speaker 4: free world right now. I gotta figure out, you got it?
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  Speaker 4: Do this Jones strike or no golfinnes is to take
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  Speaker 4: off some of the pressure.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go through it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just tough. I don't I don't like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the constant you know, I feel like beating of Barack
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  Speaker 4: Obama that I see on her behalf.
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  Speaker 1: And it's because she talks about when things are not perfect. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I can't understand the sentimate because I have male
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  Speaker 1: friends who also, you know, we have conversations about different things.
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  Speaker 1: They deal with the women that they're dating, the women
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  Speaker 1: that they're with, and a lot of times I get upset.
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  Speaker 1: I be like, does she know how much you're going
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  Speaker 1: out of your way? And you this, you that, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know what I mean like, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: through all the things as a friend or as a
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  Speaker 1: sister because it's like I hear you doing everything you
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  Speaker 1: can do and it not being enough.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's where your sentiment comes from.
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  Speaker 4: Right yeah, pretty much, It's like you worked you know,
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  Speaker 4: to become the president of the United States as a
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  Speaker 4: black man, is like, it still kind of feel like
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  Speaker 4: you're not doing enough at.
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  Speaker 2: Least in the household.
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't know what's going on in their marriage
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  Speaker 4: per se, but it was one part where she was
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  Speaker 4: like everybody says, I'm bitter for trying to humanize him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, Yeah, why does he need to be humanized
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  Speaker 4: if we have him maybe if we have him on
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  Speaker 4: some type of maybe he's a symbol of hope for
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people, or we put him on a pedestal.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, cause, I'm like, there's kids who literally
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  Speaker 4: like growing up, they didn't think like now, I probably
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: can't be president.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I'm black.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: Like it's a simple passion. But it's like, if we
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: hold him in that high regard, why do you have
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: to bring him down and humanize him to us? Like
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: we know he's not perfect, but I don't think there's
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: a need to constantly tell us how imperfect he is.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: What I'm hearing in the second clip with Traji is
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: that what she learned to do was she needed to
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: create the space for her husband, and in doing that,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: he's a human as well.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: He has flaws.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: He's not perfect, but he knows how to come back
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: and get it right. And she knew that there were
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: other women going through that, and I think if you,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I think she probably felt like, if I can humanize him,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: then maybe y'all take it a little bit easier on him,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: because y'all see, he's not perfect.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: He can't.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: No one's perfect just because he is that man that
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: you look at that I'm a little black boy or
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Believen a little black girl. Now I think I can
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: be the president because of Barack Obama. Yes, and that's amazing,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: but this means that has flaws. He's not the perfect dad,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: he's not the perfect husband. He might not be the
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: perfect president, but he's always a trying dad, a trying president.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's where it was coming from. But also too,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of women. Kelly Rowland
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: instantly was I girl, you in my head, it's a
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: lot of people that probably could relate to that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: I've hated you for ten years. Does it sound like
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: what you just said? You're right, I completely understand what
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: you're saying, But I don't know. I just feel like,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: on the flip side, anytime he speaks of Michelle's it's
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: just positive. He writes paragraphs of how she's the greatest
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: woman ever. I just wish she got some of the
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: grades with what you's going through.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: So you don't think that she ever speaks positivity of him.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: No, she does, she does, she does does.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: She does take a lot of opportunities, also ejectively, because
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: she feels like we need to see as heside.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I think men just view that type of vulnerability and
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: conversation differently. And don't get me wrong, it's some women
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that like I don't know if I would have came
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: out and said I hated my man for ten years.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Only because hate somebody.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: But to her point, she said, okay, they've been together
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: for thirty two years. Because she also said this in
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the same clip, and I've heard her say multiple times
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on our podcast. Right, if someone were to tell you, okay,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you might not like this person. Out of thirty two years,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: there might be ten of those years if you put
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it all together, that you're not gonna like this person. Right,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: But the other years you're in bliss, you're in peace,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: You're you're so in love. You gotta take the good
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: with the bad.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I get it, there is gonna be bad, but we
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: don't need to know about it all the time.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Are you only saying that because he's the president or
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you feel like women in general what happens at homes
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: just stay at home.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I think it's more so because he's the president at like,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: he probably has.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: One of the hardest jobs in the country.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: As a man is dope When year girl feels like
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: you one of the dopest dudes out there, why can't I.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Feel like you? Dope?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: But like, you really get on my nerves sometimes, Like
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I really dislike you some days, but I dislike you,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: but I learned how to love you through the dislike at.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Each phase of our life. Like, I think that that's human.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You think that people that are married, first of all,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: do you believe that people can be married for thirty
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: two years and never step outside their marriage?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I haven't been. We mean to step outside? Like, look, yeah,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I think so okay, So.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: In doing that because you believe that, do you believe
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: that there's times within those thirty two years that those
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: people are going to not desire each other, not want
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to be with each other, not agree. When I say
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: not desire, I mean physically, mentally, all of that.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I understand that it's just a platform, it's publicly. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: think we do need to hold certain people as it
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: was a hope. I really think that's important for.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: The it's the president.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Martin Luther King's wife kept talking about how much you
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: cheated all the time. She said, no, the movement is
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: bigger than our marriage.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: She did Martin Luther King's wife. But it's also a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: generation thing. She is older than Michelle Obama.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Making recipes, so we lose a recipe.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I think because it's so crazy is Michelle Obama and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Tracy Ellis Ross talked about this on the episode that
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about prior to this, how as the generations
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: come along. That's why Chercy Alice Ross was saying she
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: dates younger, because she was saying that like younger men
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: are just open to different ideas of what relationships and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the rules of engagement should be, not engagement like marriage,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: but like just how a relationship is set up. Like
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: we come from the era of what happens in the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: house stays in the house. Right, You're not getting on
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a platform talking about your men and nothing in general.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And I do for me I'm an honor that like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: especially because I'm on the like I get on the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: radio every day, and even in the small relationship stuff
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that I do talk about, I'm always thinking about how
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the other person will perceive that or how it can
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: be taken for the other person. And I can't imagine
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: if the world knew, you know what I mean, Like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: if I had a boyfriend and y'all knew who my
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: boyfriend was, and he is, you know what I mean,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: out here doing his thing and then he got to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: run into people.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: That's like, oh yeah, Because Learne was just saying, you
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I think about that, But I think the younger that
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the generations get you feel a certain type of freedom
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: or power where it's like, it's empowering me to talk
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: about this because now I feel like I don't got it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Like if Michelle Bob's ex to Barack and we catch
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a little side eye, now we know I she don't
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like him every day, but she loved him, And don't
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: say nothing to her man or to her about her man.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: She's human. It's sanity at the end of the day.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And that's what she was talking a lot about in
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: this episode. It's like for her mental health, she had
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to learn how to say no. If I want to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: talk about what goes on because it helps me to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: feel human and it helps the world to see him
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: as a human, I gotta do it. And I'm not
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: angry bitter because of it. Is there anything else you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: want to yell at black women about today? So I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: don't want to yell by outside of our household.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I don't like whatever specific thing, you know what I mean?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: And I do want to acknowledge she probably went through
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: a lot, and we talked about it for you. You
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: yelled at me again that you know, she probably had
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: that hard like put having to put her career on
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: this side, and it's soly be a mother and being
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: the public eye, and she maybe wasn't ready for a
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: lot of the things. So I'm not even downplaying everything
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: she went through.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I just do you feel like men's feelings are equally
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: considered in relationships and marriages?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Nah?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: And it's not all on y'all either, Like we we
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: downplay our feelings a lot too, So y'all wouldn't even
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: think we better end it all? But uh no, it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: not I don't think so I feel like I.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Pick up on it more now.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And that's why to me, when I hear her talking
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: about human eyesing Barack, I feel like it's almost like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a method of protection, Like I want you to see
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: him as the person and I see him as so
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that you can, yeah, so that he can get some
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: empathy because he needs it, because he probably goes through
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: so much behind the scenes trying to keep things together.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Y'all have to think about y'all feelings first, we think
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: about her last, we think about our feelings first.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know, crying, the thought like crying for the
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: girl feels crazy.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: You never cried with any of your girlfriends or you're
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: like girls you were talking to.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I was in the bathroom, the closest away from the door.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I came outside, but.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Brandon, Brandon tried to put water on his face. When
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he came out, he was just like, yeah face, Yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: then that's crazy. I don't want my man had to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: go and cry in the bathroom. I want you to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: be human. I want you to be vulnerable. I want
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you to be you know, all of these things with reason, though, like.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Here we go, here we go, the reason would.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You say, Patrick, Yeah, no, now with a condition.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: But just like, Okay, what's the list of things I
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: can't cry about?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Wait if you send your man cry watching the movie?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But my man would laugh at me crying at a movie,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So why can't I laugh at him? Like it would
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: be funny, Like it'd be like, oh, look at you,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and I would laugh. But when I said with the reason,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I just mean like I don't want you to be
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: so emotional that it's like a you're not even a hindrance,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: but like you're emotionally unstable, you know what I mean?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Where like have you ever dated somebody or dealt with
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: people where it's like like, yes, granted, things should have emotion,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you should be able to feel, you should be able
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to be a person. But sometimes it's just like WHOA
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: did this equal all of that? Like that type of thing,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Like I want you to be able to feel and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: all of that, but I don't want I don't want
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to be your emotional punching back is what I'm saying.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes when you create space and create
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: room for things, I just don't ever want it to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: be miscommunicated because I don't want to. I don't want
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to punch it back nobody else, Like if I'm having
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a day, You're not gonna have a bad day because
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I'm having a bad day. It is what I'm saying,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: So like emotion, but us knowing how to like navigate
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: each other's emotions so that I'm helping you through it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: or I'm at least supporting you through it, even if
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: it's just like I'm sitting there in silence and we
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: just like scrolling on our phones like they're like, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just you called me, you need to talk, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just listening, but not like, okay, now you're throwing
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: dark that darts my way because it's something you experience
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: because you know I'm there for you, And I don't
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: think that it should be the other way around either.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think that it should be like that with
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: women as well. And I've done that in my past
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: as well too.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm being.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Accountable or whatever. But leave Michelle about my alone brand
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and keep her name much of my own.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I think very highly of Michelle about I just wish, well,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: we're gonna leave.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: You on that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And wrapping it up, what have we learned from today, y'all?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: This is the part where we kind of summarize everything
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that we have been talking about into like one overall,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Like all right, here's here's today's takeaway. So we went
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: from Shannon Club to Michelle Obama and Obama Household.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: What do we learn today?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: You know, y'all really can learn how to control yourself,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Like that's ridiculous. One of the things you're doing is ridiculous.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Or if you really need to get that off, you
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: gotta be more disagreet with it. But it's ridiculous, Michelle Obama.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: What I've learned from that is like, from what you're
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: saying is like the other side of it, the grace.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You know she may need and why she's lashing.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Out, lashing out while she's.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Expressed herself in these ways.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there's different things you learn from
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: both the stories we talked about.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: What I learned from all of this is there should
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: be a golden rule, and I think that there probably
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: is one. I just don't know the quote for, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it should be golden to be able to protect your peace,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: your household, your reputation, your brand, just like how you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: interacting with people and how you deal with an impression
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that you leave when the people you interact with and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: like how that echo into the world. So I don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: know what went down with Shannon Sharp with and this
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: girl or what didn't go down, but something wasn't protected
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: somewhere on someone's side, and now we're getting all of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: this like and it's it's it's it's not good. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, just learning how to protect
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: everything you've worked for. But that's I don't know. That's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy to say, because if if on the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: other side, like if what she's alleging is true, like
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: if right, yeah, there's no way that you yeah, no, no, no,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: because there's no way that you know, you don't you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: don't go somewhere like not trying to protect yourself from
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: things like sexual assault. So I don't know, its crazy.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: But no, you should definitely, I don't know to say anyway.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I don't know if
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I've learned anything from Shannon Sharp.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just leave that there. I think that
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: that's just I'm gonna just leave it there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But as far as Michelle Obama, while I tweeted this thing,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he tweeted he said, too much exposure invites entitlement and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: too much access disrespect. When people feel they can reach
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you at any time, see you everywhere, and speak to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you however they want, they begin to forget your value.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Mystery protects respect, boundaries protect peace, and I think I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: think that it goes to your point of what you're
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: saying about Michelle Obama and how she speaks out about
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: certain things that go into you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: But I also think that it speaks to what she's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: trying to say as well too. She's managing how people
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: deal with her so that they deal with her in
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a way that is respectful and according in a line
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to you know, where her mental was at.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: So that is it. That is all. But we had
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a good time, Brandon, thank you for joining us.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Had a great time.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Also, I probably didn't expressed myself in the best way
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: of this episode.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: But then you gotta come back. You gotta come back,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You gotta come back. So this has been the latest
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: with Laura l Rosa. I am Laura l Rosa, your
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: homegrowl that knows a bit about everything. And everybody tell you,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: guys this every time because I want you to know
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean it. At the end of the day, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: guys could be anywhere with anybody, because it'd be a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: lot going down talking about all this stuff. But y'all
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: used to be right here with me every single episode,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and for that I appreciate you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Guys. I will see you in my next episode.