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REPORT: Saints Carr 'Very Unlikely' To Play | Why It's Time To Give The Reins To Spencer Rattler · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: or won't he saga of Derek Carr continues. I'll remind
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  Speaker 1: you that last week, after Derek Carr was injured in
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  Speaker 1: the game against the Giants, Darren Rizzy was asked because
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  Speaker 1: remember there was an initial report that Derek Carr was
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  Speaker 1: likely going to be done for the season, and Darren
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  Speaker 1: Rizzy disputed it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've already seen some reports out there a
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  Speaker 2: little bit a little bit false. So right now, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: like I said yesterday, Derek's dealing with a non throwing
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  Speaker 2: hand injury. As it stands at this moment, I don't
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  Speaker 2: believe it's going to be an iruation. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a week two week situation. So We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: kind of take this day by day this week. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see how this week plays out. He is in the
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  Speaker 2: concussion protocol also, so he's got to complete the first
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  Speaker 2: step of that tomorrow, so that it is a double
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  Speaker 2: aspect in terms of the injury, you're dealing with both.
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  Speaker 3: So we got to obviously happens there.
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  Speaker 1: Right. They weren't ruling them out for this past week's game,
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  Speaker 1: so it wasn't gonna be season any but they weren't
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  Speaker 1: even ruling him out, Okay, So ultimately he didn't practice,
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  Speaker 1: didn't play this weekend. In the in the home loss
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  Speaker 1: to Washington Well Monday, Darren Rizzy Is asked for an
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  Speaker 1: update on Derek Carr and opines that we haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: the last of Derek Carr this year.
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  Speaker 3: At this point.
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  Speaker 2: I would say he would get a chance to play
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  Speaker 2: at some point before the season's over. I think I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's a I don't think it's a reach.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, you know, is he you know,
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  Speaker 2: get like any injury, it's it's getting it's improving.
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  Speaker 3: He's just not there quite yet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, not me saying it, now, you saying it. Not
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  Speaker 1: Anonymous sources saying it. It's the head football coach of
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  Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints saying, think we're gonna see him
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  Speaker 1: again this year.
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  Speaker 3: Won't say you gotta prove, but I think we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: see him again. Now.
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  Speaker 1: When I heard Darren Rizzy say that, my assumption was
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  Speaker 1: he ain't gonna play on Monday night football, Like they're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna rush him back to go playing a cold
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  Speaker 1: weather game on the road against one of the hottest
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  Speaker 1: teams in the NFC.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that's mindful.
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  Speaker 1: What's more likely is you get him an extra week
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  Speaker 1: than he plays against his former team, the Raiders. Right,
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  Speaker 1: that would be the target, the goal always.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, Ian Rappaport puts out this tweet, citing sources,
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  Speaker 1: although his sources tend to be pretty good. It's why
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  Speaker 1: he is who he is as a random siet. Ian
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  Speaker 1: Rappaport used to write for al dot Com. Used to
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  Speaker 1: have him on the fastest hour me and Josh Ennis
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  Speaker 1: back in the day. Now he never returns a call.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Givoni's another one. Remember that you know that guy
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  Speaker 1: for ESPN, the NBA draft guy, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, were talking about he was a draft express.
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  Speaker 1: Uh we used to have him back in seven o eight,
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  Speaker 1: had Jonathan to nobody knew Jonathan Jevoni was now won't
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  Speaker 1: return a text big big league anyway. Ian Rappaport are
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  Speaker 1: our good buddy, formally avail dot com. Uh Saints quarterback
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr underwent further examination recently. He's at least a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks away from being able to withstand contact, with
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  Speaker 1: three weeks remaining, or turn the season is described as
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  Speaker 1: very unlikely. Rappaport also notes that Carr has a left
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  Speaker 1: hand fractured in two places. So again, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks away from even being able to withstand contact,
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  Speaker 1: the question is why would you even In theory, the
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  Speaker 1: only opportunity for him to return would be Week eighteen
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  Speaker 1: on the road against Tampa. Now, this isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: prize you a lick what I'm about to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: but it is my opinion that you should shut Derek
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  Speaker 1: Carr down, move him to IR, free up the roster
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  Speaker 1: spot to make your team better somewhere else, and let
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler cook for the next three weeks. And with
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  Speaker 1: the full understanding that Spencer Rattler over the next three
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  Speaker 1: weeks could stink. He could be downright atrocious. It could
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  Speaker 1: look as bad as it did when you scored eight
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  Speaker 1: points against the Chargers, or when you scored what was
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  Speaker 1: it like, eleven against the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever that final score was.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, thirty three to ten was the final twenty
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  Speaker 1: six to eight against the Chargers.
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  Speaker 3: I got it could be that bad.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm okay with it, because I'm okay with a
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  Speaker 1: micro loss for a macro game. I'm okay taking two
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  Speaker 1: baby steps backwards for the possibility of taking a giant
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  Speaker 1: leap forward. Because right now, here's what I know about
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  Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. You are already more than sixty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars over the cap for next year. You're remember it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about this year anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Don't care. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Like we all know what this team is. They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: finish up five hundred. They're not going to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: It's now about playing out these final three games to
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  Speaker 1: evaluate your roster, to see what you have for projectability
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  Speaker 1: for next year and potentially beyond. And there is no
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  Speaker 1: more important position than figuring out what you have at quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler has now started three games. He's zero and
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  Speaker 1: three as the starter, and he came in in relief
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  Speaker 1: of Jay Cayner in the second half and look pretty good. Now,
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  Speaker 1: remind you that Spencer Rattler at times looked very bad.
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  Speaker 1: We saw Jay Cayner come off the bench in that
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  Speaker 1: game against the Chargers and throw his first career touchdown pass,
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  Speaker 1: So there are are I'm sorry, it wasn't sure it
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  Speaker 1: was the Broncos game went he threw the touchdown pass
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  Speaker 1: to Cedric Wilson. But the point being, I'm not overreacting
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  Speaker 1: to what I saw from Spencer Rattler in the second
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  Speaker 1: half of the game this past week and the loss
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  Speaker 1: of the Commanders. He did lead four scoring drives. He
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  Speaker 1: also completed less than fifty percent of his passes. But
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  Speaker 1: what I know is you have a gigantic financial albatross
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  Speaker 1: hanging around your neck.
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  Speaker 3: In the person of Derek Carr.
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  Speaker 1: For next year, he is gonna cost fifty million dollars
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  Speaker 1: against your salary cap.
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  Speaker 3: Derek Carr, We've been over it enough.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to say anything more about it, but
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  Speaker 1: it is time to start formulating a plan for life
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  Speaker 1: after Derek Carr, because I think everyone at this point
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  Speaker 1: is understanding what Derek Carr is and what he isn't
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  Speaker 1: And if you're not there yet, shame on you, because
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  Speaker 1: I told you the day he signed.
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  Speaker 3: You've got an eleven year sample size. You know what
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  Speaker 3: he is.
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  Speaker 1: So would you have to figure out is if Spencer
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  Speaker 1: Ratler can be a franchise quarterback because if he can
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  Speaker 1: awesome after this season, you've got three more years of
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler on a rookie contract. Can he be your
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  Speaker 1: starter next year? Because I can stomach as bad as
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  Speaker 1: it is the car contract. If I've got a rookie
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  Speaker 1: for a rookie fifth round pick or a fifth round pick,
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  Speaker 1: a starting quarterback on a rookie deal as a fifth
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  Speaker 1: round pick, that helps me reset my roster because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not paying exorbitant amounts of money for my starter. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get there eventually if you got
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  Speaker 1: to pay him a second contract, but you need to
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  Speaker 1: find out if he's worth it. And the only way
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  Speaker 1: to find out truly if he's worth it is to
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  Speaker 1: let him start games, grow that sample size to see
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't great in those first three games. Did you
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  Speaker 1: look better in this second half? Look more comfortable?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's been out there, and for every bit of
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  Speaker 1: experience he gets, you're gonna learn more and maybe he
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  Speaker 1: gets more comfortable, maybe gets better. So let's use these
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  Speaker 1: next three games to say, okay, Spence, what you got.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see if you've improved from the three stars earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the year, and if he has awesome, then you
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  Speaker 1: can go into next year with a legitimate competition to say, hey, Derek,
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  Speaker 1: mind your p's and q's, because if you don't, we
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  Speaker 1: got the kid ready to take your job. Kind of
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  Speaker 1: like what's happening right now in Atlanta where they guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: Kirk cousin nine figures. He stinks literally on the worst
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  Speaker 1: stretch of his career, in the worst stretch of a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger back in two thousand and five,
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  Speaker 1: and now they're about to turn it over potentially to
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  Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. The Saints could be in a similar situation,
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  Speaker 1: but you gotta find out. I am all about using
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  Speaker 1: these next three games to find out what you have
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  Speaker 1: in Spencer Ratler. Yes, I want to see you about
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  Speaker 1: Alante Taylor and kool Aid. I want to see if
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  Speaker 1: we really truly believe Trevor penningk is capable of being
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  Speaker 1: a starting right tackle. His Pro Football Focus grade this
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  Speaker 1: past week was absolutely atrocious. He was in the forties.
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  Speaker 1: Brought up the rear for the entire team. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's things that you still got to learn, and you
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  Speaker 1: can do that over these next three weeks. But there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing more important than finding out what you have in
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler, hurrying Derek Carr back from a broken hand,
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  Speaker 1: for what to play out the string in a losing season. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: I hope they do lose the next three games, just
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  Speaker 1: keep slipping further, fall that backslide into into the highest
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  Speaker 1: draft pick you can. But in so doing, find out
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  Speaker 1: what you have in Spencer Ratler. And if what you
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  Speaker 1: find is you have a guy you think is capable
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  Speaker 1: of being the starter, awesome, And if not, then that
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  Speaker 1: tells you what you have to do going into this
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  Speaker 1: offseason again, which is draft to quarterback, because there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: more important for this organization right now than figuring out
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  Speaker 1: an answer at quarterback. We know it's not Derek Carr,
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  Speaker 1: at ain't j Kayner. It could be Spencer Ratler. The
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  Speaker 1: next three games to find out if you have something
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  Speaker 1: definitive there