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A Recap to Re-Members Only: Members Only Palm Beach with Kate Casey · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode Reality
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Speaker 1: with the King, I got my girl Kate Casey in
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Speaker 1: the building.
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Speaker 2: Hi, Kody, how are you you look?
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Speaker 1: Ravashing? As always on this mid morning.
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Speaker 2: Real rab Machine Monday morning. Yeah, on the heels of
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Speaker 2: the Golden Globes. Did you watch?
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Speaker 1: I listened because you know, oh, this is like our job,
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Speaker 1: and people don't understand that, which is why there's people
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Speaker 1: who start podcasts and then months later they disappear. Because
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Speaker 1: this is a real job. So I was actually watching
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Speaker 1: Potomac and Maritorn Madison to get ready for the day.
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Speaker 1: But I did see clips of the Go Globes and
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Speaker 1: most importantly, I saw Nikki Glazer's opening monologue. I like
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Speaker 1: her a lot.
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Speaker 2: By the way, I like her too. She's really really funny.
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Speaker 2: I kept thinking, how many how many people sitting in
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Speaker 2: the audience are have been convinced by their agents that
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Speaker 2: they're going to win tonight, and I have a whole
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Speaker 2: speech prepared, and their agents really lied to them, you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, well.
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Speaker 1: That's all. I thought. It was funny that Tianna Taylor
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Speaker 1: was like, I wasn't going to write a speech. The
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Speaker 1: big with me is this, I'm kind of superstitious, kind
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Speaker 1: of I'm trying to like get away from my you know,
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Speaker 1: what I learned in my childhood. But I feel like
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Speaker 1: you and IK would never write a speech because I
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Speaker 1: think we are great at thinking on the spot and
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Speaker 1: speaking on the spot that I just I would wing
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Speaker 1: it and it'll be like a great.
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Speaker 2: Speed and it would be more authentic exactly exactly.
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Speaker 1: But you know the problem in Hollywood is God forbid,
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Speaker 1: you forgot to mention the agent, the director, yeah, the
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Speaker 1: casting producer, you know what I mean. They'll they'll take
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Speaker 1: it personally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so will your husband and your children, right
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Speaker 2: in your case, like your partner and your nieces and
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Speaker 2: your nephews and your parents and everybody you work with
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Speaker 2: in the last twenty five years.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my nice siblings.
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Speaker 2: And that's a problem too with all the siblings, because
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Speaker 2: there's going to be one or two that pop in
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Speaker 2: your head first and then you know, number seven is
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Speaker 2: like I always thought you hated me, and then you
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Speaker 2: have to go to like group there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would have like the Angie k scroll
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Speaker 1: from the coblic City of People and just like breathe
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Speaker 1: them off.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that scene the finale where they're doing
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Speaker 2: the play, what did you think of it? I thought
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Speaker 2: it was like a sideways ambush, But then I thought
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Speaker 2: the plate of the the plight of the people who
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Speaker 2: make this show is they talk in circles, So how
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Speaker 2: do you actually get them to have any sort of
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Speaker 2: introspection or conflict resolution? If this is what you have
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Speaker 2: to do, that's wild because it looked like sorority sisters
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Speaker 2: who were wasted who put on a play, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Okay, your takes are so hilarious.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how could you take that seriously? If you're
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Speaker 2: sitting there and they're all they're weeping, I would be like,
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Speaker 2: are you like what is this?
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Speaker 1: I would get that part either, like this self sort
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Speaker 1: of like introspection. I didn't understand Lisa crying about being commentarialistic.
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Speaker 1: I was completely it.
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Speaker 2: Was like, have you met yourself? Like today's Tuesday? What
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Speaker 2: are we doing here?
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Speaker 1: Precisely? And the other thing too, I might add, is
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's not the first time someone has
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Speaker 1: said this about you, right, So no, I didn't get that.
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Speaker 2: But maybe they all felt like, oh, this is what
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Speaker 2: the producers think of us.
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, honey.
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Speaker 2: We know that's like a knife to the heart.
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Speaker 1: We know that it's the producers who told the actors
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Speaker 1: exactly what to say.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, okay, here's the deal on this one,
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Speaker 2: and you like rip the band aid off, like yeah,
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Speaker 2: you need a hardcore So maybe that's why it hit
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Speaker 2: a little harder. But you know, this isn't Sheila who
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Speaker 2: lives in Kansas. This is somebody who works back at
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Speaker 2: the headquarters and pays my bills.
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Speaker 1: Oh one. But that's what I was like, Look, I'm
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Speaker 1: thrilled to talk to you about a brand new show
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Speaker 1: because I do feel like, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: I do feel like, okay, yeah, let's let's get to
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Speaker 1: something else that's in the docu series space. Netflix is
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Speaker 1: in the business of showcasing us reality. You know, we
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Speaker 1: have the selling Sunset, this selling the ELC selling New York.
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Speaker 1: We got only Manhattan. So there are They're trying to
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Speaker 1: really get into the docu space. And Kay Casey, they
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Speaker 1: have a brand new show, Members Only Palm Beach. And
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Speaker 1: within the first five seconds of the show, I said,
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Speaker 1: it's only one person. That's only one person I can
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Speaker 1: talk to about the show. Your name immediately came to mind.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can only talk to about this because
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Speaker 1: I know my girl is going to give it to
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Speaker 1: me straight, no chasing like you always do the rain drops.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't heard about it, it's called Members Only
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach is Netflix's new docuserie starring affluent social life
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Speaker 1: featured in Palm Beach, Marlago West Palm Beach. It stars
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Speaker 1: Hillary is A, Taja, Taja.
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Speaker 2: Roslin, Maria and Gail I Jail.
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Speaker 1: If you have time to look through seven hundred pages, right, So, Kate,
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Speaker 1: this show is wild and we just have to get
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Speaker 1: right into it. And it's eight episodes, a pure mess. Kate,
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts of Members Only Palm Beach Because
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Speaker 1: these are affluent women who are living in a society
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Speaker 1: that is very red state, very Republican. Mar Logo is
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Speaker 1: the seventh character on the show for sure, Ronald Trump
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Speaker 1: is the eighth.
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Speaker 2: Yep. Well, first of all, I love a story about classism.
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Speaker 2: I mean you and I have talked at length about
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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. It's the same sort of concept. Now a
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Speaker 2: lot of people watch. Most people watch this between Christmas
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Speaker 2: and New Year's and it was the perfect show to
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Speaker 2: be because it is just complete froth. It's not anything
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Speaker 2: to take very seriously. And there were several production companies
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Speaker 2: that have tried over the years to do projects in
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Speaker 2: Palm Beach because the best shows kind of take you
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Speaker 2: into a place that few people get access to. You
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Speaker 2: want to know how people live who seemingly have a
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Speaker 2: completely different life than your own, So this seems like
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Speaker 2: a perfect spot. The hiccup is that Palm Beach island
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Speaker 2: where the billionaires, but billionaires live no one can film there.
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Speaker 2: You can film in a private home, but you can't
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Speaker 2: film like out on the street. So because of the constrictions,
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Speaker 2: then they have to film in West Palm Beach and
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Speaker 2: del Rey and the other areas. So right off the bat,
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Speaker 2: if you think that you're going to see homes on
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Speaker 2: Palm Beach Island.
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Speaker 1: You're out of your mind, but explain that to Okay,
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Speaker 1: So if Palm Beach Island, so two things I have
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Speaker 1: I have for you? Yeah, is it? I'm assuming a
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Speaker 1: very exclusive gated community and they can deny the filming
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Speaker 1: permit to film.
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Speaker 2: Any permit, Like, I don't care. If you are you know,
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Speaker 2: HBO Max and you're going to make a documentary about
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Speaker 2: a billionaire, you still have to get all of these
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Speaker 2: permits and they disallow you from filming unless it's in
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Speaker 2: a private home. So I want to paint the picture.
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Speaker 2: The people who live on Palm Beach Island are the
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Speaker 2: kind of people who have sculptures next to their pool.
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Speaker 2: They probably have a separate made quarters, and they never
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Speaker 2: speak to the maid and probably don't even have any
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Speaker 2: idea what their names are. Their home is probably filled
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Speaker 2: with artwork that costs more than the actual structure of
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Speaker 2: the home. We are talking like mega, mega, mega money,
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Speaker 2: and they traditionally only spend a few months of the
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Speaker 2: year there, which is the season which is right now.
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Speaker 2: So you have people who have an absurd amount of money.
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Speaker 2: And at that point, I think people who have that
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Speaker 2: amount of money, only believe that they can be around
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Speaker 2: people who have the same amount of money because therefore
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Speaker 2: they can only understand each which is preposterous. But then again,
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Speaker 2: we're talking about people who we cannot relate to just
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Speaker 2: right off the bat right. So that's the kind of
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Speaker 2: people who live on Palm Beach Island. Now you go
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Speaker 2: over the bridge to West Palm Beach where all the
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Speaker 2: shops are, and it's like a cold different level of
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Speaker 2: like class beneath them. So that is what's funny about
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Speaker 2: the show right from the jump, is that it's a
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Speaker 2: group of people who want you to or want you
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Speaker 2: to believe that they live on Palm Beach Island, but
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Speaker 2: they probably have absolutely no friends or connections that actually
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Speaker 2: live on there. The second part of it is from
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Speaker 2: what I understand from a friend who lives in that area.
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Speaker 2: She said, regardless of politics, there's something about mar A Lago,
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Speaker 2: And I think this is kind of like what probably
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Speaker 2: happens in other places in the world where there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of money, like in New York, or in la
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Speaker 2: or a Moscow or in London, is that the idea
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Speaker 2: of going someplace means that you've made it, like you're
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Speaker 2: among the most elite of the world. So right now,
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Speaker 2: people in that area are clamoring to get an invite
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Speaker 2: to mar Alago because they believe if they get there,
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Speaker 2: they're going to be around people who are enormously powerful,
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Speaker 2: but most importantly have the most social currency. And now,
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Speaker 2: while money may be abundant down there, the truth is
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Speaker 2: wealth alone does not guarantee you full acceptance into elite circles.
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Speaker 2: So I'm talking about influence and reputation and club memberships
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Speaker 2: and invitations. They are treated as the real currency of status,
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Speaker 2: and that's way more than your bank balance. So I
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Speaker 2: think that this show kind of highlights how class hierarchies
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Speaker 2: aren't just economic, but cultural and social. In other words,
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Speaker 2: privilege must be recognized by peers to really count. So
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Speaker 2: that's why you see people that lose their minds over
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Speaker 2: going to mar A Lago despite what's going on in
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Speaker 2: the world. You're like, you really want to go there,
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Speaker 2: but that to them is social currency. So then the
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Speaker 2: third part of this that's hilarious is that the group
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Speaker 2: of women that they've cast for this are, with no disrespect,
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Speaker 2: pretty cheesy, and a lot of them, most of them
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Speaker 2: are from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, which is of course where I'm
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Speaker 2: from too, So immediately I'm sucked in because I'm like,
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Speaker 2: they're like cheesebags from Philly, like it is.
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Speaker 1: What it is.
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Speaker 2: They are not people who like have this pedigree and
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Speaker 2: that they went to like these elite boarding schools and
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Speaker 2: they worked to Goldman Sachs and they, you know, go
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Speaker 2: to Moustique. You in theory are watching this because you
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Speaker 2: want to see wealth versus social currency and these hierarchies.
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Speaker 2: But it's a bunch of people that are transplants. Now.
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Speaker 2: During COVID, I don't even remember this, but I was
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Speaker 2: trying to pitch a show, which was, in retrospect, the
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Speaker 2: dumbest plate time to ever pitch a show. But I
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Speaker 2: had this idea of transplants, like people who move to
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Speaker 2: other parts of the country because of COVID, and the
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Speaker 2: idea that makes me laugh. People that are sort of
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Speaker 2: like fish out of water. This to me if they
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Speaker 2: didn't name it Members only Palm Beach, which they have
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Speaker 2: to because it sucks you in a second, like subtitle
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Speaker 2: could be the Transplants, because it's people from Philadelphia trying
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Speaker 2: to fit into not only these elite social circles, but
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Speaker 2: also culturally there's such a disparity. I mean, people in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 2: as you know, because you know me, are like extremely direct,
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Speaker 2: extremely direct. So they're trying to finesse these social structures
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Speaker 2: and they're talking about all of these rules of rules
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Speaker 2: of engagement and etiquette, but they're like a bowl in
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Speaker 2: a china shop. You know, they're wearing like sequin dresses.
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Speaker 2: But they revealed themselves to be like somebody who would
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Speaker 2: probably be in an Eagles game in the alley, like
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Speaker 2: stabbing somebody. You know, I know my people. So that's
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Speaker 2: why it's so funny too. Last part I would say is,
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Speaker 2: for the most part, I think they are absolutely authentically themselves.
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Speaker 1: They've probably watched.
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Speaker 2: The Real Housewives before, sure, but you get the feeling
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Speaker 2: that despite what they have in their bank account, the
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Speaker 2: real thing that they want more than anything in the
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Speaker 2: world is to be famous, and that, to me is
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Speaker 2: a recipe for success.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Tasey, ladies jumping the gays and days. I mean,
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Speaker 1: now you see why I waited for her to be
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Speaker 1: available to talk because she's the only person that could
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Speaker 1: have broken it down to a science, and I thank
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Speaker 1: you for it. I looked at this show and your
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Speaker 1: rights over the holidays. I'm like, you know, working a
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Speaker 1: little bit but also trying to relax. I put it
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Speaker 1: on and Kate is sucked me in like of bord
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Speaker 1: text within five minutes because at somebody as you know,
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Speaker 1: whose first reality job was The Real Housewives of Atlanta
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Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight, it reminded me of
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Speaker 1: how okay, this is sort of a nod to getting
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Speaker 1: back to the old school reality. Yeah, which is to
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Speaker 1: your point, have these women watch Housewives before one hundred percent?
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Speaker 1: But they are authentically themselves and there's nothing like a
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Speaker 1: season one cast regardless because they are so green to
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Speaker 1: the process. I mean, we'll get to the finale where
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Speaker 1: Hillary may be dumbest mistake by asking the production are
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Speaker 1: we filming? Am I? I'm still I'm like girl, They're
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Speaker 1: still yeah exactly, So we'll get to that later. But
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Speaker 1: they are authentically themselves. And what I what I do
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Speaker 1: appreciate about the show is, and I know you and
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed this, it's a very diverse age range of women.
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Speaker 1: Where society as a whole, especially Hollywood, they sort of
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Speaker 1: like to discard women after forty and I appreciate the
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Speaker 1: fact that we can swear to see women in their forties, fifties, hey, Gail, sixties, really,
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Speaker 1: you know, be entertaining. So I want to start with Hillary,
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Speaker 1: who is considered self proclaimed the Queen Bee of the
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Speaker 1: show Kate. She is a real estate developer and known
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Speaker 1: for her no nasense attitude and social circle. She lives
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Speaker 1: in a forty million dollar mansion in West Palm Beach.
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Speaker 1: She's building an eighteen but well, you.
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Speaker 2: Just don't forty million dollars, I don't know, did you choose?
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Speaker 2: And she lives in West Palm Beach.
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Speaker 1: She lives and this is and the beauty of this
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Speaker 1: is this I don't know about this. This is on Netflix's website.
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Speaker 2: To the two Doom thing. Yeah, they the articles. I
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Speaker 2: think she's I think that, yes, it is. I think
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Speaker 2: what they probably mean is that she's got a real
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Speaker 2: estate development project and she wants to sell that for
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Speaker 2: forty million dollars.
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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. Well, it says here,
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Speaker 1: Hillary lives in a forty mini dollars match at West
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach and she's building an eighteen thousand square for
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Speaker 1: water prohm to sell.
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Speaker 2: N because I feel like, and you know those with housewives,
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Speaker 2: like do you remember the days where like Peggy Salaion's
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Speaker 2: like husband would like open the jewelry box and'd be like, Oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get her this necklace. Then you find out
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Speaker 2: like it's like a cousin has a jewelry business and
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Speaker 2: loaned for a day and she's talking about rain drops.
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Speaker 1: The one hundred housewife who was a one season wonder
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Speaker 1: on The Real Waderbores County continue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just like all of this stuff. You know,
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Speaker 2: when they when they put a number up on the screen,
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Speaker 2: I kind of find it hard to believe. But I
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Speaker 2: don't know if they're writing the article. What's interesting about
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Speaker 2: her is she's very good friends with Jill Zarn So
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Speaker 2: I think Jill probably gave her like a little playbook
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Speaker 2: like Okay, this is what you need to know. And
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Speaker 2: I can kind of see that because there are certain
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Speaker 2: cast members, like from the very beginning where she's like,
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Speaker 2: I have zero interest in never filming. So what I
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Speaker 2: understand behind the scenes is that Roslin and Hillary absolutely
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Speaker 2: despise one another. Now I interviewed Roslin, and I asked
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Speaker 2: her if she had known Hillary, and she said, well,
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Speaker 2: we're both members of a club and I'm very social,
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Speaker 2: and I had never seen her before. I had no
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Speaker 2: idea who this woman was. And then we're cast on
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Speaker 2: the show together. So there's already the classes and mission
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Speaker 2: between the two of them. Now Hillary has done interviews
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Speaker 2: and basically makes it seem like Roslin is persona non
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Speaker 2: grata in town, like she's overstepped or welcome. There are
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Speaker 2: a lot of people that want nothing to do with her.
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Speaker 2: So these two have the biggest beef. So I would
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Speaker 2: say it's sort of like, you know, look at like
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Speaker 2: on a Housewives, where you've got these two women that
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Speaker 2: have all of these friends that kind of crossover, sort
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Speaker 2: of like the beginning of like Rony right, it was
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Speaker 2: like Jill and Jill. It's it's sort of like that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So these two.
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Speaker 2: Despise one another and for that alone, you're like, I'm
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Speaker 2: put the I'm ready for it, I like it, I'm
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Speaker 2: into it.
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Speaker 1: What the fucking car gear? Pay casey? Yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now here's what you need to know about Roslin.
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Speaker 1: So, by the way, Kate, who is my favorite?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah? So okay, So that's when I interviewed. You
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Speaker 2: gotta go listen to that, all right, Okay, So picture Rosalind.
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Speaker 2: First of all, she made it seem as if to
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Speaker 2: me that she has been with her husband for the
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Speaker 2: duration of like her like adult life. She's a mom
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Speaker 2: of five. What Hillary has pointed out post show and
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Speaker 2: interviews is that Roslin was married before and so I
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Speaker 2: think they're two children from the first marriage. Now Roslin says, yeah,
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Speaker 2: but by the way, that was a horrible marriage and
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Speaker 2: why are you bringing that up? So this is like
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Speaker 2: the kind of stuff we're like, wait, what's going on?
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Speaker 2: So they both want to destroy each other's lives and
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Speaker 2: again for that, I salute them. Okay, So Roslin has
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Speaker 2: five kids. Here's what you need to know. In Philly,
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Speaker 2: she was taught like dance classes at a gym, and
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Speaker 2: she told me that she would roll up to the
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Speaker 2: gym in a bentley. That was like her whole thing.
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Speaker 2: She was like stay at home mom who teaches like
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Speaker 2: zumba classes and rolls up in the bentley. Her husband
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Speaker 2: owns like a bail bondsman's business, which to me is
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Speaker 2: like I need a reality show about that, Like what's
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Speaker 2: that about? Right? Okay, sure are So when Roslin comes
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Speaker 2: to Palm Beach, I think, well, she has said all
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Speaker 2: of her kids were basically out the door, they had
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Speaker 2: all gone off to college. So now this is her
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Speaker 2: time to like really shine. And I think what's interesting
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Speaker 2: is like this transition period for a certain age group,
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Speaker 2: like your kids have left, you're stuck at home with
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Speaker 2: your husband. For them, I think they're like, we know
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Speaker 2: everybody here. There's a certain level we're not going to
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Speaker 2: make it past because Philadelphia, as much as we'll stab
20:01
Speaker 2: you in an alley, there's also a lot of old
20:04
Speaker 2: money and social circles, like you're not going to get in,
20:07
Speaker 2: Like it's like just forget about it, right, So she
20:11
Speaker 2: moves to Palm Beach, which, by the way, I'm like,
20:13
Speaker 2: is this gonna be any better? So she and her bail
20:16
Speaker 2: bondsman husband have moved to Palm Beach and they're trying
20:18
Speaker 2: to like work their way through again. Another one who's
20:21
Speaker 2: like mar A Lago is the top they for them.
20:23
Speaker 2: It's like mar A Lago is like an Olympic medal,
20:25
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, if you get invited,
20:28
Speaker 2: that's where they want to go. Okay, would you go,
20:31
Speaker 2: would you go? Okay tomorrow?
20:33
Speaker 1: Lago No no, no, no, hear me out. No no, no
20:36
Speaker 1: mine no no, no, hear me out. You're like me.
20:39
Speaker 1: You're a journalist and you're nosy to be nosy, to
20:42
Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall. Oh that's what I'm
20:45
Speaker 1: talking about.
20:46
Speaker 2: No, I have people to do it for me, like
20:50
Speaker 2: I love you, so yeah, but I'm not I'm not
20:54
Speaker 2: going there. Okay. So she's probably trying to reinvent herself.
20:58
Speaker 2: So she tells me the reason that she knows Romina
21:01
Speaker 2: is because Romina's cousin used to take her dance class
21:04
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. So the way she explained it was, I
21:07
Speaker 2: get to Palm Beach and I'm starting my life. And
21:09
Speaker 2: she's talking about her Instagram like she is like a
21:12
Speaker 2: major influencer, which again is like my favorite kind of person,
21:14
Speaker 2: favorite kindnant person who's like they already perceived themselves. They've
21:18
Speaker 2: manifested it. You know, they're doing like the crystals. They're like,
21:20
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a big time celebrity. So she
21:23
Speaker 2: says that Romina reaches out to her and says, I've
21:26
Speaker 2: now moved to Palm Beach area adjacent probably like Delray
21:29
Speaker 2: Beach or something, and I've looked at your Instagram and
21:32
Speaker 2: you seem to be living a fabulous life. Now again,
21:35
Speaker 2: this is her explaining the story to me, and I'm imagining,
21:38
Speaker 2: can you imagine telling me that story? This guy named
21:42
Speaker 2: Matt reached out to me and he said, Carlos, I
21:45
Speaker 2: looked at your Instagram, and I thought to myself, he
21:48
Speaker 2: is living a life that one can only dream of.
21:50
Speaker 2: Like you'd be like, Matt, have you lost your mind?
21:52
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, So she's That's the
21:55
Speaker 2: way she explained it. She said, Romina looks at my
21:57
Speaker 2: life and really just as like I want what you have.
22:00
Speaker 2: And that's why she started to take her under her
22:03
Speaker 2: wing and invite her to parties, because the way they
22:07
Speaker 2: want you to make you believe is that getting invited
22:11
Speaker 2: to any party during the season is near impossible. However,
22:15
Speaker 2: other friends have told me who live in the area.
22:17
Speaker 2: Now it's like trunk shows, like you can go to
22:19
Speaker 2: any party, like it's not a big deal. Are you
22:21
Speaker 2: gonna get on Palm Beach Island and go to the
22:23
Speaker 2: house that has the sculptures next to the pool with
22:25
Speaker 2: the chandelier and the maid and the you know, swilling
22:28
Speaker 2: chardonnay and looking at the ocean. No, but you could
22:32
Speaker 2: go to Alice and Olivia's store opening, like that's okay,
22:35
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Okay, So that's and now
22:37
Speaker 2: Romina is new money. She's an immigrant and she's new money.
22:42
Speaker 2: And that's kind of fascinating too, because now I think
22:45
Speaker 2: that like people of a certain age and a certain
22:49
Speaker 2: bank account, I think that's kind of interesting too, how
22:53
Speaker 2: they perceive younger couples, Yes, you have new money, and
22:57
Speaker 2: I think that like makes them uncomfortable, like well, how
22:59
Speaker 2: did you earn your money? As if like demeaning them,
23:02
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, So, and I love her because she's
23:06
Speaker 2: kind of got like a wacka do style. And now listen,
23:10
Speaker 2: if you live in Palm Beach, you're gonna wear like
23:12
Speaker 2: Zimmerman and you're gonna have like you're not gonna have
23:15
Speaker 2: the claw talents. You're not gonna be wearing like a like,
23:18
Speaker 2: you know, a crop top she and a shay style.
23:20
Speaker 2: You're just not. However, probably in West Palmer or del
23:24
Speaker 2: Rey or Boca. I mean, like that's fine. So that's
23:28
Speaker 2: what the like, the unsaid thing that they're basically intimating
23:32
Speaker 2: is like she's trashy because she wears crap tops and
23:35
Speaker 2: she probably goes to Boca to a club. Meanwhile, I
23:38
Speaker 2: think she and her husband do pretty well and they've
23:40
Speaker 2: got young kids. So there's like a total disconnect because
23:43
Speaker 2: you've got someone like Gail who has the worst wig
23:46
Speaker 2: that I've ever and I'm not somebody who pays attention
23:49
Speaker 2: to wigs. So if I if I notice it, it's bad,
23:52
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like I never
23:54
Speaker 2: know who's like high at a party, Like that's just
23:57
Speaker 2: not my lane, that's not my wheelhouse. I also don't
24:00
Speaker 2: pay attention to wiggs. If it's that bad, it's that bad.
24:03
Speaker 2: For that, I salute her. And she's somebody who probably
24:07
Speaker 2: had money twenty five years ago, but her husband passed
24:09
Speaker 2: away and now she's an identity crisis. So she's probably
24:13
Speaker 2: pissed at this young girl. Younger girl. She's probably like
24:18
Speaker 2: thirties right, with young children, gorgeous body, yes, and she
24:24
Speaker 2: and her husband are probably gonna, like, you know, make
24:27
Speaker 2: twice as much, right, and she's at a real crisis
24:31
Speaker 2: at her life. Like I'm not accepting now. The story
24:34
Speaker 2: about Gayla is that she got kicked out of mar
24:36
Speaker 2: Alago one time, or she tried to talk to Donald Trump.
24:41
Speaker 2: Apparently it was like hey remember me, and I think
24:45
Speaker 2: security was like, get this lunatic out of here.
24:49
Speaker 1: And then did you see but she wants to.
24:51
Speaker 2: Go back if I was kicked out of a party.
24:53
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. If I was kicked out
24:55
Speaker 2: a party, I don't want to go back.
24:56
Speaker 1: No. Never, never. Now there is a bottled that circulating online.
25:01
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's Ai. But Gail who
25:03
Speaker 1: knows of her with Donald Trump? He did write her
25:07
Speaker 1: a letter.
25:10
Speaker 2: Probably maybe like fifteen years ago, right.
25:12
Speaker 1: Like this is years ago. But again, what we know
25:15
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump allegedly is he's a it's a boys club,
25:21
Speaker 1: so he may have known her husband.
25:23
Speaker 2: Probably her husband, yeah right, probably, yeah, thats.
25:25
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's sort of like her proxy to him.
25:29
Speaker 1: But at the Netflix premiere party of this show, have
25:33
Speaker 1: you seen his footage of security wrapping Gail removing her
25:38
Speaker 1: from the party.
25:39
Speaker 2: Well, Gail, I think maybe she just like doesn't know
25:42
Speaker 2: how to like pedal a break, you know what I mean.
25:44
Speaker 2: You know somebody who goes to the party and you're like, Okay,
25:46
Speaker 2: let's have a glass of wine and They're like, I'm
25:48
Speaker 2: on glassy. I don't know. I think she just takes
25:51
Speaker 2: it too far.
25:52
Speaker 1: Oh, it takes a tumble.
25:55
Speaker 2: If you know she's rhythmic gymnastics expert. She throws a
26:01
Speaker 2: couple of back off a bench. How do you fall
26:03
Speaker 2: off a bench? Remember she fell off the bench. And
26:08
Speaker 2: I love a wag askew. That's my favorite.
26:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, Caren and Huger Potomac. So the thing that I
26:16
Speaker 1: thought was so interesting was this was, like, to me,
26:20
Speaker 1: one of the first reality shows that really honed in
26:25
Speaker 1: all like you said, classism, hierarchy, Dale and Rosenland sort
26:31
Speaker 1: of took Romina under their ring. Not that you give
26:33
Speaker 1: us a backstory and they tell me, but they're taking.
26:36
Speaker 2: Her under her wing. Let's be honest, Like if I
26:39
Speaker 2: if I'm at a table with them and we're all
26:41
Speaker 2: I would go, You guys took her under your wing
26:43
Speaker 2: because you wanted to demeanor. You wanted to make yourself
26:47
Speaker 2: feel better. You shouldn't dress that way. You look like
26:50
Speaker 2: a whore. I mean, didn't say that, but if that's
26:52
Speaker 2: what they're intimating, right, like, you're no cluss. They wanted
26:55
Speaker 2: to feel better about themselves and the way that they
26:57
Speaker 2: were so weird with each other, like I love you.
27:00
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're passing the torch? What what torch
27:04
Speaker 2: are you talking about? It's like delusion. But the way
27:07
Speaker 2: they were talking to her was so demeaning.
27:10
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I what was so fascinating to me
27:14
Speaker 1: was how Romina sort of tried to listen and understand it,
27:21
Speaker 1: but they kept beating her up and she broke down.
27:23
Speaker 1: She cried, She yelled at Gail, your wig is bad,
27:27
Speaker 1: you know. And then what was so interesting to me
27:31
Speaker 1: is the sort of love affair that Rosalind and Gail
27:35
Speaker 1: have towards each other. What do you make of that?
27:38
Speaker 1: Because Roll is at Gail like like you are lucky
27:42
Speaker 1: to be in her world. But people Hillary said Gail
27:47
Speaker 1: is full of shit, and she got and that her
27:50
Speaker 1: Marologual membership is not on pause because they'll do pauses.
27:55
Speaker 2: I think it's like Housewives, where you've got a new
27:57
Speaker 2: person on the show and there's someone who is kind
28:01
Speaker 2: of pulled them aside and gone like, just you know,
28:04
Speaker 2: if you want to have success on the show, you know,
28:06
Speaker 2: just hang with me, like I know the ropes. I'm
28:09
Speaker 2: best friends with everybody. And then they find out at
28:10
Speaker 2: the end of the season that actually the producers hate
28:12
Speaker 2: that person and so does the audience. I think it
28:15
Speaker 2: was like that. I think she thought, well, according to Hillary,
28:19
Speaker 2: she's like persona non gratta like all over town. So
28:21
Speaker 2: maybe she felt like, I've got a life raft here.
28:23
Speaker 2: If I cling onto this, then like I'll have some
28:27
Speaker 2: ability to I don't know, like this secures me the
28:30
Speaker 2: opportunity to be on the show. It for the season,
28:33
Speaker 2: if not for three more. I don't know. Maybe she's
28:36
Speaker 2: like led her to believe that she's like really tight
28:39
Speaker 2: with the producers. I find a lot of reality stars
28:42
Speaker 2: kind of do that, especially with first season, Like when
28:44
Speaker 2: you have an ensemble show, it's like, oh, you know,
28:47
Speaker 2: this was actually my idea for the show, and you know,
28:49
Speaker 2: I'm really close, and then you find out later that
28:52
Speaker 2: that's not even remotely true. Yeah, and I have to
28:55
Speaker 2: tell you, Like, there's a guy on TikTok. His name
28:58
Speaker 2: is like the elder Annial, and he started posting that
29:02
Speaker 2: he had a show that he was creating in Palm
29:05
Speaker 2: Beach and that uh, Sue Bell, who's the older woman.
29:10
Speaker 1: Who you have to describe baby Obsessed.
29:14
Speaker 2: Said he had Sue Bell on his show and then
29:17
Speaker 2: he was frustrated because the net whatever network didn't take
29:21
Speaker 2: that show. So I know three different projects in Palm
29:24
Speaker 2: Beach now. So there's Snowbirds, which was Purveyors of Pop,
29:27
Speaker 2: which was Bravo didn't want. Then we have this show,
29:31
Speaker 2: and then there was this other one with his guy Joey,
29:33
Speaker 2: and he said Sue Bell was a part of his
29:35
Speaker 2: and he said, we just couldn't get interest. Then it
29:38
Speaker 2: was like two days later he said, guess what, because
29:41
Speaker 2: of the success of the Netflix show, we're back on board.
29:44
Speaker 1: Oh they are.
29:45
Speaker 2: He said, there are two companies that now want to
29:48
Speaker 2: make the show. But he said the caveat is that
29:50
Speaker 2: they probably can't have Sue Bell because she's got a
29:53
Speaker 2: conflict with Netflix. So my point is, I think all
29:58
Speaker 2: of these women who are thirst traps are all kind
30:01
Speaker 2: of like at lunch together Sherry notes, trying to get
30:04
Speaker 2: in roads, and they're all completely unaware of how much
30:07
Speaker 2: the other person knows. And they are all these like
30:10
Speaker 2: production companies there sniffing around. One could maybe believe that
30:15
Speaker 2: Gail had some sort of power if you had like
30:19
Speaker 2: thick glasses on and hearing needs. And just to me,
30:23
Speaker 2: it's obvious, like what that I know somebody. I know
30:27
Speaker 2: somebody who worked on one of those projects, and they
30:31
Speaker 2: said that. She said that Gail is completely like just
30:36
Speaker 2: like bananas, just bananas, like not doesn't live on our planet,
30:42
Speaker 2: like I'm a big deal, like I'm a superstar. Like
30:46
Speaker 2: she thinks she should be on the cover of Town
30:47
Speaker 2: and Country, which for reality shows is perfection. But if
30:52
Speaker 2: we were in real life, we with throat punch her.
30:55
Speaker 2: But great of course. So I think, yeah, the unsophisticated
31:02
Speaker 2: person who's trying to work their way up the ladder
31:05
Speaker 2: may have for three seconds gone, that's the life raft.
31:08
Speaker 2: I've got to like hang myself onto that one because
31:10
Speaker 2: that's what's going to take me places.
31:12
Speaker 1: So that makes sense why Roslyn feels like she has
31:14
Speaker 1: this allegiance towards her, because when you think about Taja
31:18
Speaker 1: and Maria, I really was here for Maria and Romina's friendship. Yeah,
31:24
Speaker 1: I like Romina, not Romina. Maria reminds me of a
31:27
Speaker 1: mob life totally. You know, she gets a little bit
31:31
Speaker 1: of renee Gano.
31:33
Speaker 2: Like definitely, I feel like she could beat somebody up.
31:37
Speaker 2: She could absolutely take someone down. She's like UFC adjacent.
31:42
Speaker 2: And also, I love a midlife DJ now some on
31:46
Speaker 2: social media who are in that space, or like she
31:49
Speaker 2: uses beginner's equipment, and I say, gives a shit because
31:53
Speaker 2: my favorite was when Melissa Gorgo wanted to be a
31:55
Speaker 2: pop star at age like thirty five. So I love
31:57
Speaker 2: a midlife DJ now. Of course, like I said, the
32:01
Speaker 2: classes and issues are like, she doesn't DJ at mar
32:04
Speaker 2: A Lago, okay, Like, so I think they're trying to say,
32:09
Speaker 2: like she DJs at like a Jamba juice outside, you know,
32:12
Speaker 2: like a stre party, which kind of would make her
32:16
Speaker 2: even better. But when she crawled across the floor on
32:18
Speaker 2: the song after they had, you know, said to Romina,
32:22
Speaker 2: you have to be careful about the way that you
32:24
Speaker 2: dress when we know these parties that they're going to
32:27
Speaker 2: are not actually on Palm Beach Island. They're like in
32:30
Speaker 2: a strip mall in a neighboring town.
32:33
Speaker 1: So explain that to me, because obviously, listen, the a
32:36
Speaker 1: story across all eight episodes is the fact that what
32:41
Speaker 1: you said earlier is the fact that everybody wants to
32:46
Speaker 1: belong to mar Alago, which is on Palm Beach Island.
32:50
Speaker 2: Correct, No, but it's it's like you could probably see
32:54
Speaker 2: it from Palm Beach Island. It's like across the water.
32:57
Speaker 1: Got it?
32:58
Speaker 2: But like that's just the status be like for lack
33:03
Speaker 2: of and this is a real weak example, but like
33:06
Speaker 2: back in the day, like soho house, Remember it was
33:09
Speaker 2: like Okay, I don't know how I need to get there,
33:12
Speaker 2: but I gotta go there because you know, if I'm
33:14
Speaker 2: seen there, that means like I'm super sophisticated, I'm high,
33:18
Speaker 2: like super high in the social ladder.
33:20
Speaker 1: And there's membership fees associated.
33:23
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean these I mean it's bananas. It's
33:28
Speaker 2: like hundreds of thousands of dollars for these clubs. Okay,
33:32
Speaker 2: So then my friend was visiting and her dad, excuse me,
33:35
Speaker 2: my friend's dad was visiting and he lives in a
33:38
Speaker 2: penhouse on Palm Beach. No is it West Palm Beach, No,
33:41
Speaker 2: it's Palm Beach, Palm Beach Island. Yeah, one of them.
33:45
Speaker 2: But I go, okay, give me the lowdown, like what's up?
33:47
Speaker 2: And he said the same thing. He goes, people will
33:49
Speaker 2: lose their minds. They're only here for a couple of months,
33:52
Speaker 2: because he's there for a couple like in the nice months.
33:54
Speaker 2: But he's like, there are people who will come here
33:57
Speaker 2: just to like find somebody. Like the people will come
34:01
Speaker 2: to try to like snag themselves like a like a
34:05
Speaker 2: wealthy woman or a wealthy man just to like saddle up.
34:08
Speaker 2: Like the crazies will come out on top of like
34:12
Speaker 2: the people that are the billionaires and the super connected.
34:15
Speaker 2: Then you have the tryhards that are coming there to
34:18
Speaker 2: kind of like snag somebody. So you have all levels
34:21
Speaker 2: of social situations and status and all kinds of different people.
34:26
Speaker 2: So that's what makes it such a wildly fascinating id
34:29
Speaker 2: like like Art Buzzel in Miami, Right, Yeah, you're the
34:33
Speaker 2: people that are actually buying like a acasso, and then
34:37
Speaker 2: you have the people who are wearing like plastic dresses
34:40
Speaker 2: and you know, got an uber and are hoping that
34:43
Speaker 2: they meet like an oligarch. Like that's fascinating, right, Like
34:48
Speaker 2: that's that's good, that's good time to watch.
34:53
Speaker 1: This is why this show is interesting because I think listen,
34:58
Speaker 1: when it comes to the raw hospals parks, we kind
35:02
Speaker 1: of know how the sausage is made. And every city,
35:05
Speaker 1: yes is different, but tonally it's we know what we're
35:09
Speaker 1: getting watching it, right, And they're so self aware that
35:14
Speaker 1: they're all jockeying for position, and they're all trying to
35:17
Speaker 1: like be a carbon copy of the Queen Bee on
35:20
Speaker 1: the various shows and blah blah blah, because it's sort
35:23
Speaker 1: of like the game of Thrones on Housewives, because you
35:27
Speaker 1: can be a one season person and lose her and
35:31
Speaker 1: get fired and they bringing on somebody else whereas what's
35:35
Speaker 1: interesting about Members Only Palm Beach is the fact that
35:39
Speaker 1: we are in the world that we hear about and
35:42
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is this and I could
35:44
Speaker 1: not wait to talk to you about it. We know
35:46
Speaker 1: that on Housewives, for example, it's considered faux paul for
35:52
Speaker 1: a housewife to be a Donald Trump supporter or even
35:55
Speaker 1: to admit that she's a Republican. Right. What's interesting about
35:59
Speaker 1: Members Only Palm Beach is they lean into those two
36:03
Speaker 1: things that housewives would never do, despite who they follow
36:07
Speaker 1: on that's true. Yeah, do you think I thought that
36:12
Speaker 1: was a very interesting choice for Netflix to say, we're
36:17
Speaker 1: seeing over two hundred countries. This man is the president
36:21
Speaker 1: of the United States, so there are people who follow
36:24
Speaker 1: him on social media and it digit do voted for him.
36:28
Speaker 1: This is a world that Bravo, in my opinion, would
36:31
Speaker 1: never tap into because of the PC nature of the show.
36:36
Speaker 1: Do you think it was smart for Netflix and lean
36:38
Speaker 1: into it because it provides something globally?
36:43
Speaker 2: It was like top top ten, so obviously it resonated.
36:46
Speaker 2: But I think what people, I think that the best
36:50
Speaker 2: way to sum it up is on Housewives, you have
36:52
Speaker 2: like the friend of who's like a wacky character. It's
36:55
Speaker 2: a show of all wacky side characters, like each person is.
37:01
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be enough to be maybe like cast and
37:04
Speaker 2: a real And actually I read that Maria tried to
37:06
Speaker 2: be on Real Housewives of New York like years.
37:09
Speaker 1: Ago, so I can see that.
37:12
Speaker 2: It's it's like the person who's like the side character
37:16
Speaker 2: on the Housewives. It's just it's just show filled with them.
37:20
Speaker 2: So it's like enormously funny because they're trying so hard
37:25
Speaker 2: to work their way into a system that will never
37:26
Speaker 2: accept them. There's no I mean, people who have a
37:30
Speaker 2: lot of money would never be accepted into social circles
37:33
Speaker 2: in Palm Beach. So the the idea of these like
37:37
Speaker 2: transplants who are like cheesy trying to make their way
37:41
Speaker 2: when it's like so obvious to the audience, like you
37:44
Speaker 2: will never be accepted. What are you doing? But their tenacity.
37:47
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta respect the hustle.
37:50
Speaker 1: Oh and and and that's what it is to me.
37:52
Speaker 1: They're all hustlers. And to me, I feel like Sue
37:57
Speaker 1: Bell is like the only real deal.
38:01
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, yes, yes, uh huh okay, She's like
38:06
Speaker 2: personifies Palm Beach. It would kind of be like me
38:10
Speaker 2: doing a show about me and a group of my
38:13
Speaker 2: friends with kids trying to go to New York to
38:16
Speaker 2: be like Eileen Ford models, you know what I mean,
38:20
Speaker 2: where you're like everybody be like girl, give it up,
38:22
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like that, and that's
38:25
Speaker 2: what's so funny.
38:27
Speaker 1: And the thing about Sue Baille, did you know this
38:29
Speaker 1: Kate that she's a former fashion model.
38:34
Speaker 2: She was a former fashion model. Yeah, and she was
38:37
Speaker 2: married up until recently. I think he passed away. But literally,
38:40
Speaker 2: what I have heard is like she knows everybody. But
38:43
Speaker 2: like I said, this guy says that she was supposed
38:46
Speaker 2: to be part of his show, but now she's obligated,
38:48
Speaker 2: probably because contractually obligated with Netflix now.
38:53
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because she's not main cast.
38:56
Speaker 2: No. But then Hillary did an interview apparently where she
38:59
Speaker 2: said Sue is like eighty and the and the filming
39:02
Speaker 2: is really hard for her. Or actually, when I heard that,
39:06
Speaker 2: I thought, is she trying to sabotage her by putting
39:08
Speaker 2: that out in the world, like she doesn't like her getting.
39:13
Speaker 3: So we have to talk about Hillary. So what I
39:21
Speaker 3: gathered is, like you said, in New York And it's
39:25
Speaker 3: funny that Hillary and Jill zerre a our friends because Hillary,
39:29
Speaker 3: to me is like the Jill zeron of the show,
39:32
Speaker 3: you know how like Jill Zer to the full ownership
39:35
Speaker 3: of like I'm the queen bee of New York City.
39:37
Speaker 1: New York City is my playground. I'm going to take
39:39
Speaker 1: bethany another you know, transplant and introduce her to my
39:45
Speaker 1: social circle. And Jill Zerry even today, after not being
39:49
Speaker 1: on the show for MENI meany meany many years, she
39:52
Speaker 1: still believes that when it comes to New York City,
39:56
Speaker 1: especially Upper East Side, that she is the queen Bee
40:00
Speaker 1: and that she's been doing this for years. Hillary has
40:03
Speaker 1: that personality when it comes to that, though. Do you
40:08
Speaker 1: buy that Hillary is presenting herself to be as authentic
40:14
Speaker 1: as she proclaims to be.
40:15
Speaker 2: Oh, I think she's totally authentically herself. I think she
40:19
Speaker 2: and jail have a similar personality. Probably probably had moms
40:21
Speaker 2: that were kind of like, this is why it is,
40:23
Speaker 2: and you know, domineering and you know you got to
40:26
Speaker 2: do this. And I think they probably are like that
40:28
Speaker 2: with their friends. What do you mean you're going to
40:30
Speaker 2: do that? And you have to go on vacation here
40:32
Speaker 2: and this is the hotel that you stay at. I
40:33
Speaker 2: think she's totally authentically herself. What I find is so
40:36
Speaker 2: funny again is that they all are actually from Philadelphia.
40:39
Speaker 2: They didn't like a lot of them didn't even have crossover.
40:42
Speaker 2: They all just happened to be from Philadelphia. The five
40:45
Speaker 2: main cast members, almost all of them. Hillary is from Philadelphia,
40:50
Speaker 2: born and raised in Philadelphia. That's what I'm telling you.
40:55
Speaker 2: They're all fish out of water. I love it so
41:00
Speaker 2: so anyway, she's been Hilary's been there for I think
41:02
Speaker 2: twenty one seasons or something. By the way, married five
41:05
Speaker 2: times A love a woman who's had a lot of marriages.
41:08
Speaker 2: Love it.
41:08
Speaker 1: Oh that tells me everything I need to know. I
41:11
Speaker 1: do love though the relationship she has with her son.
41:14
Speaker 1: I think despite all of that, he seems to be
41:16
Speaker 1: like a well rounded young man.
41:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, but five times, five times.
41:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about her husband?
41:29
Speaker 2: I mean, he's fine. He's like a dud, you know
41:32
Speaker 2: what I mean. But if she's that kind of personality,
41:36
Speaker 2: she needs a dud.
41:37
Speaker 1: She one thousand. I think. Yeah, after the fourth husband,
41:40
Speaker 1: she realized I need somebody that doesn't want the spotlight.
41:44
Speaker 1: It's all about me. Doesn't really have a job, you
41:47
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like kind of me.
41:50
Speaker 2: I think she tested on Heather Heather's podcast that I
41:54
Speaker 2: think he was like the concierge at a hotel.
41:57
Speaker 1: It was Yes, that's how they met.
42:00
Speaker 2: My mom always said, you can only have one star
42:03
Speaker 2: of the show, and that is you know, wherever, whatever
42:06
Speaker 2: it may be. So let's say your husband is a teacher,
42:10
Speaker 2: you go to the teacher's event, he's the star of
42:12
Speaker 2: the show. But then when you go to the roller
42:14
Speaker 2: skating rink and you're the roller skating star, you're the
42:16
Speaker 2: star of the show. I think Hillary is the star
42:20
Speaker 2: of the show in her life with that, like in
42:23
Speaker 2: her marriage, every day of the week. And I think
42:26
Speaker 2: he's totally fine with it.
42:28
Speaker 1: Doesn't give a shit, doesn't care at all. He likes cooking.
42:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, A funny thing that happened when I interviewed Roslin
42:36
Speaker 2: was she had just started to see the episodes, so
42:39
Speaker 2: I had seen the episodes before, but it was like
42:42
Speaker 2: the day before she had binged the entire She said,
42:44
Speaker 2: I stayed in bed and I watched all eight at
42:46
Speaker 2: eight episodes. So she was in that frantic mode which
42:50
Speaker 2: you go through every day of your life, where you're
42:52
Speaker 2: getting calls from yes, the cast members like holy shit,
42:55
Speaker 2: like what why did you include that? That's not what
42:58
Speaker 2: I meant. So I grabbed her right that moment. So
43:00
Speaker 2: she was in that frantic period. But then she goes,
43:03
Speaker 2: I really like the way I look on TV and
43:07
Speaker 2: that I was like, you're made for TV. That confidence
43:10
Speaker 2: should propel you through it because this is not going
43:13
Speaker 2: to be easy for anybody to endure the comments, you know,
43:17
Speaker 2: the attention. But if she could in the chaosco I
43:21
Speaker 2: gotta tell you I look great on TV. I was like,
43:24
Speaker 2: this is this is your life, this is it, this
43:26
Speaker 2: is it for you.
43:27
Speaker 1: That's why listen. As a seasoned producer, that's why my
43:30
Speaker 1: watch this show. I gravitated towards more of her because
43:34
Speaker 1: I'm like, there is something special about her. I think
43:37
Speaker 1: she's very likable, very likable. I think she means everything
43:43
Speaker 1: that comes out of her mouth. I think she's so
43:46
Speaker 1: aloof two things that she has a leaf, you know
43:49
Speaker 1: what I mean? I got that from her. She honestly
43:54
Speaker 1: was somebody that I was like, great casting her, and look,
43:56
Speaker 1: I like Hillary, you know what I mean, I like
43:58
Speaker 1: a boss woman. I think that's good to watch now
44:02
Speaker 1: before I'll let you go.
44:03
Speaker 2: But by the way, the scene where that they're in
44:05
Speaker 2: like West Palm Beach and they're at the you know,
44:07
Speaker 2: uh was it? Taja and Roslin are waiting for Hillary
44:11
Speaker 2: to arrive such a ball or move to go to
44:14
Speaker 2: show up like forty minutes. That's like I need to
44:17
Speaker 2: remember remind you I'm more important. And then when I
44:22
Speaker 2: get there, I'm also gonna remind you I work and
44:24
Speaker 2: you don't. You just sit around all day and like
44:26
Speaker 2: do AEROBICX. Like that to me was like put that
44:31
Speaker 2: in a college course. Unbelievable.
44:35
Speaker 1: So I really Ca'm gonna mention the cars he rolled
44:38
Speaker 1: up in and the outfit she was wearing.
44:40
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, that is why you need Hillary on
44:44
Speaker 2: that show. I was like, oh my god, this is
44:46
Speaker 2: so well played because she probably was around the corner.
44:50
Speaker 2: She was just waiting like I'm gonna wait. Yeah. One time,
44:54
Speaker 2: Dan Dan, my husband had a business like when he
44:57
Speaker 2: was in college, and he goes into this investor meeting
45:00
Speaker 2: and they meet. He gets to the with his colleagues
45:03
Speaker 2: to the office and it was like two hours. They
45:06
Speaker 2: made him sit in in the uh in like the
45:09
Speaker 2: lobby two hours and then they go into the meeting
45:12
Speaker 2: and the guy is all the way in the corner.
45:14
Speaker 2: There's no furniture in the office. Really, the desk is
45:18
Speaker 2: all the way in the corner, and their stacks of cash.
45:22
Speaker 1: What uh huh like wait wait physical cash. Yeah.
45:29
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was like a meeting about like potential investment.
45:32
Speaker 2: And now he looks back at he's like, what like
45:35
Speaker 2: that is like a trip and that person who who
45:38
Speaker 2: I will tell you offline who it was, is the
45:40
Speaker 2: subject of a documentary out in the world. But that
45:43
Speaker 2: was like one of their like moves is like to
45:46
Speaker 2: keep the people waiting in the lobby to remind you
45:50
Speaker 2: you wait for me. So if somebody that's my advice
45:55
Speaker 2: to you, if you want to see diabolical, arrange a
45:58
Speaker 2: meeting and make somebody wait for a while. But that's
46:02
Speaker 2: what you did.
46:04
Speaker 1: Rain Johns that's what. You have to watch this on
46:05
Speaker 1: YouTube as well, because my mouth is on the fucking floor.
46:10
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that. Okay, Kate of all the housewives
46:16
Speaker 1: from Beverly Hills, oh See, Atlanta, Potomac, New York City,
46:20
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Miami. Okay, what housewife pastor present?
46:27
Speaker 2: Okay?
46:28
Speaker 1: Can you see being a part of members only? Palm Beach?
46:33
Speaker 2: Oh Alexia in Miami. Oh, but she's like think she's
46:39
Speaker 2: like I think she's a democrat. I just think like
46:42
Speaker 2: her aesthetic, but like that that kind of like I'm
46:47
Speaker 2: a former mob mob wife kind of mentality, and I
46:52
Speaker 2: kind of think she would be so funny, like I
46:54
Speaker 2: don't need to go to mar al Ago. That would
46:55
Speaker 2: be funny to have somebody kind of show up and
46:58
Speaker 2: like I don't want to be seen there. That would
46:59
Speaker 2: be of the conflict, would be great.
47:03
Speaker 1: Yes, I see her, I can see Sutton. Oh could
47:09
Speaker 1: you no? Tell me no?
47:13
Speaker 2: No, because she represents to me the actual people that
47:16
Speaker 2: live there that are embarrassed by the show. Like she
47:19
Speaker 2: would she'd be like, I do you think Sutton wouldever
47:21
Speaker 2: want to be seen with Romina? No, Like that's that's
47:26
Speaker 2: old money versus new money, right, what I want Sutton
47:30
Speaker 2: on the show, of course. But you know what I
47:33
Speaker 2: said to Did I say this to oh Darren who
47:37
Speaker 2: made the show? To the producer? Yeah, yeah, I said, Darren,
47:41
Speaker 2: you are going to have so many unbelievable people reach
47:45
Speaker 2: out to you who want to be on the show.
47:46
Speaker 2: It's just going to get better and better and better. Oh.
47:50
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And they have.
47:51
Speaker 2: People from like Europe and like, yeah, god knows where
47:55
Speaker 2: in the world that are going to go. I want
47:57
Speaker 2: to be on that show. People do that with Housewives.
47:59
Speaker 2: Now we're talking global scale. This show is going to
48:02
Speaker 2: get better and better and better.
48:05
Speaker 1: I want more of it.
48:06
Speaker 2: I I.
48:09
Speaker 1: Really enjoyed because again you and I have talked about this,
48:12
Speaker 1: how we're kind of bored with the same a reality
48:14
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah, and I felt like this
48:17
Speaker 1: this woke me up. It was sort of like too, yeah,
48:20
Speaker 1: it woke me up.
48:21
Speaker 2: Like I was like, now we're cooking.
48:23
Speaker 1: Now we're cooking, and I'm intrigued by conversations that I
48:27
Speaker 1: don't have on all the shows and listen it was.
48:29
Speaker 1: It was more of an eye opening world to me
48:33
Speaker 1: that I know exists, but no one dares to show
48:36
Speaker 1: and it reminds me of because I said this to
48:39
Speaker 1: you about like the view for example, how I'm like,
48:42
Speaker 1: you know, I want to know more about like the
48:44
Speaker 1: other side, because they do exist, and I'm just curious
48:48
Speaker 1: about like their thought process and rather or not, you know,
48:51
Speaker 1: people agree or not disagree. I think it's worth hearing
48:55
Speaker 1: the other side. And I think this show really showed
48:57
Speaker 1: you how the other side lived. They talk about and
49:01
Speaker 1: it was like being a fly on the wall.
49:04
Speaker 2: Also, I kept thinking this was filmed last year, and like,
49:08
Speaker 2: as time goes on and the world changes, honey, it's
49:13
Speaker 2: all going to be so different season to season, you know,
49:19
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, like put this in a time capsule, right.
49:24
Speaker 1: Oh, I want more of it. So listen rain Jobs.
49:28
Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it yet members only, Palm Beach
49:31
Speaker 1: is currently streaming on Netflix and listen watch the episodes.
49:36
Speaker 1: If you have watched it, let Kate and I know
49:39
Speaker 1: what you think.
49:40
Speaker 2: I want to know.
49:41
Speaker 1: We're both packed up on X and we will respond
49:45
Speaker 1: to you, so let us know. He was comments on
49:47
Speaker 1: Spotify as well. Hey Kate Casey, let my audience know
49:52
Speaker 1: where they can find you. Follow your support you, my darling.
49:55
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing they need to know is that
49:56
Speaker 2: every week I put out a list of what to watch.
49:59
Speaker 2: So there are reality shows and documentaries that you do
50:02
Speaker 2: not know about, and I don't want you to miss
50:04
Speaker 2: out on it. So if you go to Katekacy dot
50:06
Speaker 2: substock dot com, you're going to get a list. And
50:08
Speaker 2: I have run everything from sports to true crime, to
50:11
Speaker 2: reality ensembles, to competition to obscure documentaries. So go there.
50:16
Speaker 2: You can find me on TikTok and it's katekc Instagram
50:19
Speaker 2: at Kkcca, I'm on x I'm on Threads. My podcast
50:24
Speaker 2: is called Reality Life with Kksey. I have six episodes
50:27
Speaker 2: a week and I'm bringing you interviews with the people
50:30
Speaker 2: behind camera and in front of the camera. And I'm
50:33
Speaker 2: telling you by the end of the week, you're going
50:34
Speaker 2: to go, oh my god, I have three things I
50:36
Speaker 2: have to watch.
50:37
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we have to talk about documentary that was
50:39
Speaker 1: on your list that I did watch? Which one Evil Influencer?
50:44
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I interviewed the director of that one.
50:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's when we watch it.
50:49
Speaker 2: Oh was this woman insane or what? By the way,
50:54
Speaker 2: do you think that they I think that they were lovers. Well,
50:58
Speaker 2: the daughter she wrote a book and she said that
51:01
Speaker 2: that one night her mom was going up to her
51:05
Speaker 2: room upstairs and that Jody was upstairs and there were
51:08
Speaker 2: like all these candles lit.
51:11
Speaker 1: They really do like about that?
51:13
Speaker 2: Yes, well that's what I think that like Jody has
51:18
Speaker 2: like internalized repression of her sexuality and she takes she
51:22
Speaker 2: was taking it out on a lot of the men
51:24
Speaker 2: that she would bring in these couples for therapy and
51:27
Speaker 2: then convincing these women you don't really need your husband,
51:30
Speaker 2: you need to because I think she wants to like
51:32
Speaker 2: get it, get down to get down. Yeah, one hundred
51:35
Speaker 2: percent they were. There were a couple that's and then
51:39
Speaker 2: you that the shame that they were probably carrying because
51:42
Speaker 2: their religion is like this is not cool.
51:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lived together. The husband had to see
51:48
Speaker 1: his children over a year.
51:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that dingling husband who's out of the house doesn't
51:56
Speaker 2: see his kids. It is like, okay, whatever you say.
51:59
Speaker 1: There was two I still the house in the.
52:02
Speaker 2: Desert, the multimillion dollar house and the couple's massages with
52:06
Speaker 2: the with the campbells. Yes, they were absolutely a couple.
52:11
Speaker 1: Okay, I can talk to you all day. All right.
52:13
Speaker 2: By the way, last question, did you watch did you
52:15
Speaker 2: watch heated rivalry.
52:18
Speaker 1: Am I not an ugly gay man who like loves
52:22
Speaker 1: loves all things LGBT? Honey over the it was Christmas break? Yeah,
52:29
Speaker 1: And and to the point Kate, I thought the finale
52:35
Speaker 1: was like episode seven, you know what I mean?
52:38
Speaker 2: Like, so I was like wait what.
52:40
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, ways, but I was sort of like,
52:44
Speaker 1: all right, next episode. I'm like, are you kidding me?
52:48
Speaker 2: Besides, and then I went insane on threads. I was like,
52:50
Speaker 2: please tell me there's another season. But the good people
52:57
Speaker 2: of HBO Max and Crape by the way, and astute
53:01
Speaker 2: person at HBO Max was like, you know Crave, which
53:04
Speaker 2: is basically HBO in Canada, Like they've got some incredible
53:07
Speaker 2: stuff that person needs, like a raise and a half,
53:10
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. What they're guys brave projects.
53:15
Speaker 1: Yes, like the Casey brothers, the guys who this trade
53:18
Speaker 1: for things, the guy who did what's that Kevin Costner's
53:22
Speaker 1: not anymore paramount, yo, you know how to get like
53:28
Speaker 1: these massive overall deals. Yeah, they need that.
53:32
Speaker 2: Oh right, it's I hope those guys. You know what.
53:35
Speaker 2: The biggest thing I walked away from that This is
53:37
Speaker 2: how you know my brain thinks, please bring back unknown actors.
53:43
Speaker 2: Stop stop hiring people because they have a big TikTok following.
53:47
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
53:48
Speaker 2: It doesn't superb actors. If they had stuck some of
53:52
Speaker 2: these you know, influencers in the same actors all the time,
53:56
Speaker 2: that would have not been the same project.
53:59
Speaker 1: No, I can't not, Can I go still further to
54:04
Speaker 1: start if you're going to have a gay role, start again,
54:07
Speaker 1: cav openly gay actors.
54:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
54:12
Speaker 1: It was so I mean, I could talk about this
54:15
Speaker 1: all day it was. But anyways, it was a ten
54:17
Speaker 1: out of a ten. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
54:20
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's like casting me to be like
54:21
Speaker 2: a just Sell Buncheon. It's like, okay, what he'd a rivalry.
54:27
Speaker 2: I hope those guys have very long, long careers. And
54:31
Speaker 2: you know what I like too, Yeah, I think that
54:34
Speaker 2: the actor that played Shane, he is so funny in interviews.
54:41
Speaker 2: He's totally authentic himself. I like that the publicists are
54:45
Speaker 2: not telling him to, you know, kind of turn the
54:48
Speaker 2: volume down on his personality. He like curses and is like, yeah,
54:53
Speaker 2: I love that too.
54:55
Speaker 1: No, I think they're great. They're great. Please watch he
54:58
Speaker 1: a robbery on HBO Max two is a underful scripted show,
55:01
Speaker 1: and again it goes with what we were saying about
55:04
Speaker 1: members only palm Beach. I think the success of these
55:08
Speaker 1: shows is showing the world that people are bored with
55:11
Speaker 1: the same on the same all and the fact that
55:13
Speaker 1: more women are watching hitted robbery than gay men shows
55:20
Speaker 1: you and a lot of streatment. I'm watching it too,
55:21
Speaker 1: but it goes to show you that there's an audience
55:25
Speaker 1: for new storytelling, whether it's unscripted a scripted. Yep, yeah,
55:30
Speaker 1: all right, love you kkse, honey, thank you, I'll see
55:33
Speaker 1: you the next one.
55:34
Speaker 2: You got it.
55:38
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