Latest / Chuck Douglas / Mayor Ginther news with Joe Motil
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm Chuck Douglas. This is the Power Hour six ten
- 0:02Speaker 1: do WUTV and Columbus City School Board taking a vote
- 0:04Speaker 1: last night. Don't worry, it means nothing. I'm just I'll
- 0:07Speaker 1: fill you in on that here in a minute. It
- 0:09Speaker 1: trust me, it means nothing. The big break in up
- 0:14Speaker 1: at Easton the car break in. I forget how many
- 0:17Speaker 1: they had, but it keeps happening over and over again.
- 0:20Speaker 1: And I offered something to Mike Elliott on Columbus's Morning
- 0:23Speaker 1: News this morning. I will share that with you before
- 0:24Speaker 1: I get out of it. I think I can solve
- 0:26Speaker 1: the problem, or at least largely deflate the reason for
- 0:30Speaker 1: the problem with just a little bit of common sense,
- 0:32Speaker 1: which will never happen because common sense is I think
- 0:37Speaker 1: it's like a third degree felony. Now, speaking of which,
- 0:41Speaker 1: Columbus may Or Andy Ginther skates scot free on the charges,
- 0:49Speaker 1: the allegation, the investigation whatever, of him making a phone
- 0:53Speaker 1: call to Judge Mingo regarding the greyhound bus station issue
- 0:58Speaker 1: on my beloved West Side, which is still there and
- 1:02Speaker 1: still a pain in the butt if you're trying to
- 1:04Speaker 1: get to seventy. But he called the judge outside of
- 1:10Speaker 1: the trial and said you gotta do something about this
- 1:12Speaker 1: exparte communications. I can't walk into a courtroom and speak,
- 1:15Speaker 1: or into a judge's chambers and speak to them about
- 1:17Speaker 1: something going on in the courtroom. Everyone involved in the trial,
- 1:20Speaker 1: both sides, have to be involved. Private conversations with the
- 1:25Speaker 1: judge are not allowed. So you would think if I
- 1:29Speaker 1: would get a little admonishment, a fine, a slap on
- 1:32Speaker 1: the wrist, something, you would think maybe that would be
- 1:36Speaker 1: appropriate for the person that's supposed to be setting the
- 1:37Speaker 1: example in leading the city. But I guess not. I
- 1:39Speaker 1: guess not. I guess that's not. Plus it was being
- 1:42Speaker 1: investigated by somebody from Whitehall, like how much confidence do
- 1:45Speaker 1: I have in that Whitehall is a little a little
- 1:51Speaker 1: less than pristine lately? Joe Motil ran for mayor. He
- 1:56Speaker 1: tried to get you to vote for him. From mayor.
- 1:58Speaker 1: I put a sign in my yard that said Joel
- 2:00Speaker 1: from here on it. Yes, yes I did. And he's
- 2:03Speaker 1: not a Republican. That's how fair and balanced the fat
- 2:06Speaker 1: man is. I do. Common sense is common sense, And
- 2:09Speaker 1: there was a degree of anybody. But again there yes,
- 2:12Speaker 1: there was also an appreciation for Joe's ability to uh
- 2:15Speaker 1: to watch out for the dollars, watch out for the processes,
- 2:19Speaker 1: take hold of these ridiculous tax incentives that are handed
- 2:22Speaker 1: out the corporations like trick or treat candy in the
- 2:24Speaker 1: City of Columbus. I was impressed by that, but alas
- 2:28Speaker 1: the City of Columbus once again showed the sheep that
- 2:32Speaker 1: they were and kept the status quo. I know that
- 2:36Speaker 1: Joe was equally as frustrated about this situation as I
- 2:39Speaker 1: could ever possibly be. Joe Otill, Welcome to sixtn WTV,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and how are you.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Hi, Chuck, and thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it,
- 2:48Speaker 2: But yeah, I was. You know, I tried to remain
- 2:50Speaker 2: optimistic about this, and then you know, reality sets in
- 2:53Speaker 2: when you get these decisions handed down like this, and
- 2:56Speaker 2: you know they use Nicodemus, Whitehall City Attorney, and damn
- 3:00Speaker 2: good and will that he's going to provide him with
- 3:02Speaker 2: a favorable outcome. And that's exactly what happened. And what's
- 3:05Speaker 2: ironic about all this. I was there last night at
- 3:07Speaker 2: the Whitehall City Council meeting and testified to state and
- 3:12Speaker 2: stated in Nicodemus asking him where the investigation was and
- 3:15Speaker 2: why he hadn't it's taken a year for him to
- 3:19Speaker 2: do a completed investigation and hear what happens. You know,
- 3:22Speaker 2: the next day, he didn't even say anything to him.
- 3:24Speaker 2: He didn't speak or nothing. He sat there with his
- 3:26Speaker 2: head down, and he could have at least had the
- 3:29Speaker 2: decency to say, mister Motil, you know the report will
- 3:33Speaker 2: be forthcoming. We didn't even get my attorney didn't even
- 3:37Speaker 2: receive his decision. I had to find out from a
- 3:40Speaker 2: news reporter at about three o'clock this afternoon.
- 3:43Speaker 1: And your complaint was the catalyst for the investigation in
- 3:47Speaker 1: the first place.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. If I don't follow that complaint, nothing happens this.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I don't even know what investigating needed to be done.
- 3:57Speaker 1: If not a violational law, definitely violates a protocol, definitely
- 4:01Speaker 1: deserving of some sort of slap on the risk, some
- 4:04Speaker 1: sort of end management. I don't know what you were
- 4:06Speaker 1: hoping for in the end here, but didn't you hope
- 4:10Speaker 1: for at least something? Joe?
- 4:12Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely. And you know, really, the logic of
- 4:15Speaker 2: his decision that he made is it's just not sound
- 4:18Speaker 2: and Ginther obstructed justice and he violated the constitutional rights
- 4:22Speaker 2: of the parties by contacting the judge. I mean, he
- 4:24Speaker 2: admitted to contacting the judge on a news report that
- 4:29Speaker 2: was given by Channel six back in It's quite months
- 4:33Speaker 2: and months ago. And in my opinion, you know, the
- 4:35Speaker 2: decision is just it's politically biased in favor of Ginther.
- 4:39Speaker 2: And this this means that Ginther or the mayor or
- 4:41Speaker 2: anybody can he can interfere now with any penny case
- 4:45Speaker 2: he wants. Basically, that's what he said. It's okay, he's
- 4:48Speaker 2: I mean, in his decision, he actually says that Mayor
- 4:52Speaker 2: Ginther did not want to delay the trial. You know,
- 4:54Speaker 2: he had no business contacting the judge in the first place.
- 4:57Speaker 2: You know, what did he think was going to happen?
- 5:00Speaker 2: And if the judge turned him in? I mean, how
- 5:02Speaker 2: many times has he actually done this and got away
- 5:04Speaker 2: with it and probably figured, well, Judge Mingo isn't going
- 5:07Speaker 2: to say anything. Well, finally somebody said something. She had
- 5:10Speaker 2: to recuse herself and this delayed the trial. This had
- 5:14Speaker 2: I mean, it's ridiculous. This is one of those things
- 5:16Speaker 2: where you're right his decision.
- 5:18Speaker 1: He admitted to doing it. There was the recording of
- 5:21Speaker 1: him leaving the voicemail for the judge and what he
- 5:24Speaker 1: did his sentiment, his his goal, I think is what
- 5:30Speaker 1: all of us want. We want, but it's not something
- 5:33Speaker 1: you can do behind closed doors. He properly should have
- 5:37Speaker 1: called a press conference and said I am calling on
- 5:39Speaker 1: the court system, I'm calling on the judge and all
- 5:41Speaker 1: involved to do what makes sense here and get this
- 5:45Speaker 1: thing out of its current location in someplace it is
- 5:47Speaker 1: more appropriate. That would have been fine, But the private
- 5:51Speaker 1: phone call is the problem. You cannot do anything as
- 5:54Speaker 1: part of a public hearing, public trial behind closed doors
- 5:59Speaker 1: without all parties being notified and aware of what's going on.
- 6:03Speaker 2: And that's especially because the City of Columbus is the
- 6:06Speaker 2: one who has filed the complaint, and he is the
- 6:09Speaker 2: City of Columbus, and that is the city of attorney's
- 6:11Speaker 2: job to do to make any kind of calls or
- 6:14Speaker 2: or to state anything to the judge during a hearing,
- 6:19Speaker 2: and he has you know, he's not allowed to interfere
- 6:22Speaker 2: with that. He That's why they had to hire a
- 6:25Speaker 2: special investigator to investigate this, because the city attorney had
- 6:29Speaker 2: a conflict of interest and what a joke, you know.
- 6:32Speaker 2: That's what our appeals have been over the last six
- 6:35Speaker 2: to seven months through the District Court in the Ohio
- 6:38Speaker 2: Supreme Court was to have Nicodemus removed because we knew
- 6:41Speaker 2: we couldn't get a fair and impartial response from Nicodemus
- 6:45Speaker 2: we had we needed a judge to appoint a special
- 6:48Speaker 2: prosecutor from outside Franklin County. That's the only possibility of
- 6:51Speaker 2: getting a fair, you know, hearing on this case.
- 6:55Speaker 1: This is Joe Motiel, by the way, joining me on
- 6:57Speaker 1: the Legacy Retirement Group dot com foam lines just a
- 6:59Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. Joe, let me ask you, is
- 7:01Speaker 1: there another step, a next step or is this dead
- 7:03Speaker 1: in the water and over.
- 7:03Speaker 2: With I Unfortunately, I believe it is. I think w
- 7:08Speaker 2: S you said they're going to maybe look into doing
- 7:11Speaker 2: a full story on this, you know, everything that's happened
- 7:13Speaker 2: and occurred, and other than that, you know, our appeals
- 7:18Speaker 2: through the Supreme Court of Ohio ended November, I think
- 7:21Speaker 2: it was in the middle of the month. Is when
- 7:23Speaker 2: they came down with their decision that they wouldn't hear
- 7:25Speaker 2: the case. And that's so that probably pretty much put
- 7:28Speaker 2: an end to that. But you know, it's it's really
- 7:32Speaker 2: sad that this is the way the City of Columbus
- 7:35Speaker 2: and Franklin County Operates. I mean, you can't. You know,
- 7:37Speaker 2: there's just no justice in terms of whenever it's a
- 7:41Speaker 2: you know, politician who's involved with something like this. Uh,
- 7:45Speaker 2: it's it's almost it's impossible. Worst corrupt here in Columbus,
- 7:49Speaker 2: at Chicago or Cleveland or any of those cities, and
- 7:52Speaker 2: but there these people are protected. I mean, it's it's
- 7:55Speaker 2: so sad.
- 7:56Speaker 1: The biggest question of all do you still have your
- 7:58Speaker 1: campaign signs in the garage?
- 8:01Speaker 2: I saved a few, but not many. Yeah. I Actually
- 8:04Speaker 2: it's funny you say that. I've cleaned out my basement
- 8:06Speaker 2: the other day and I have campaign signs back from
- 8:10Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five when I first ran for counsel and
- 8:13Speaker 2: saved a few of everything. Just put them in a box.
- 8:17Speaker 2: But you know, you never say no. But we'll see
- 8:20Speaker 2: what happens in a couple of years and you know
- 8:23Speaker 2: who plans on running and such.
- 8:25Speaker 1: You would be the first mayor to ever play piano
- 8:27Speaker 1: at his own inauguration, you know that.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Thanks for doing that. By the way, when you get
- 8:35Speaker 1: on Facebook and sit down at the piano and play
- 8:37Speaker 1: on Facebook Live, I appreciate it. You play well. I
- 8:39Speaker 1: enjoy sitting and listening to you, so thank you for
- 8:41Speaker 1: doing that.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, I actually I am planning on doing one
- 8:44Speaker 2: pretty soon.
- 8:45Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll be watching. I'll be watching Joe
- 8:48Speaker 1: Motil buddy. Thanks very much for joining me on short
- 8:50Speaker 1: notice tonight. I appreciate you doing that, and we'll talk
- 8:52Speaker 1: again very soon.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate the time you too.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It's the Kuluma City Schools last night taking their vote.
- 9:00Speaker 1: They say they're gonna close down several schools, one of
- 9:01Speaker 1: which is Westbroad Elementaries. I was telling Mike this morning
- 9:04Speaker 1: as I joined him unk Colomus this morning News. I
- 9:06Speaker 1: think it's kind of a meaning. Look, look, if you
- 9:09Speaker 1: know anything about these schools, especially West Broad Elementary on
- 9:12Speaker 1: might be loved West Side, all of the little bodies
- 9:16Speaker 1: coming out of there every day, where are they're gonna go?
- 9:19Speaker 1: Where are they gonna go? The closest schools, Value View
- 9:23Speaker 1: Elementary they can't handle that overflow, Highland Elementary, they can't
- 9:27Speaker 1: handle that overflow. So you're gonna spread them out to
- 9:31Speaker 1: other schools, and then what's gonna happen? Then you'll hear
- 9:33Speaker 1: about over crowded classrooms. What's next, Levy request. You know
- 9:38Speaker 1: it's coming. You know it's coming. I don't think it'll happen.
- 9:45Speaker 1: The vote was posturing just because they had to do something.
- 9:48Speaker 1: They've drawn this out for so long. They had to
- 9:52Speaker 1: do something. And I do believe that the results of
- 9:55Speaker 1: that vote will be rescinded. Write it down, see what happens.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Maybe I'll be wrong, maybe I'll be right.