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Adam Koehler - Railroads and Cincinnati Infrastructure · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Eight oh color Mento five fifty five KRCD talk station,
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Speaker 1: written about the greater Cincinnati area and of course objective
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Speaker 1: reporting from Adam Keller. Welcome back, Adam. It's great to
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Speaker 1: see you because I get to see you, and it's
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Speaker 1: great to have you back on the fifty five Carse
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Speaker 1: Morning Show, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Great to be here, Brian, as always.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, since you're on the zoom call, we don't have
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Speaker 1: any telephone problems this morning. And again apologies to my
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Speaker 1: listening audience for a couple of really botched efforts earlier
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Speaker 1: this morning. Not Joe Strecker's fault, that's for sure. Hey,
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Speaker 1: before we get to the infrastructure problems we had, Hey,
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Speaker 1: do we have infrastructure problems in the city there, Adam.
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Speaker 2: That seems to be a consistent complaint from people is
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Speaker 2: not just people who live in Cincinnati, but people visiting.
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Speaker 1: True, and how many years have we been talking about that?
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Speaker 1: This seems to be a perpetual problem for the City
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati priorities.
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Speaker 2: How long has the city been run by Democrats? Fifty
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Speaker 2: five years? Probably fifty five.
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Speaker 1: Years, Brian A. Man Adam Kaled. But before we get
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Speaker 1: to that, I had to ask you. I presume you
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Speaker 1: saw the update on former since fire chief Michael Washington's
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Speaker 1: wrongful termination suit against the city and Cheryl Long as
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Speaker 1: an individual. Appellate court just said yesterday that she is
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Speaker 1: not shielded by immunity ergo, Cheryl Long can be held
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Speaker 1: personally liable for any damage's Chief Washington faced. That's a
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Speaker 1: real problem for Cheryl Long, is it not.
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Speaker 2: It is a big problem. And I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: the people have argued that she was unqualified for that
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Speaker 2: job in the first place, with her you know, her
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Speaker 2: past financial issues and things like that. And now all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, she's running a city and mister Washington
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Speaker 2: is asking for you know, back pay, benefits, restored things.
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Speaker 1: Like that damage damages for his reputational problems that he's struck.
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Speaker 1: He's still struggling with that. He can't get a job elsewhere,
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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact he's very qualified to lead
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Speaker 1: fire departments out there. But with this, this termination hanging
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Speaker 1: over his head. He's people won't touch him.
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Speaker 2: Well, now you got Fiji too, what are we doing
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Speaker 2: with that? Also? I mean there seems to be a
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Speaker 2: problem here, Brian, with you know, people being fired wrongly,
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Speaker 2: the city being mismanaged. I don't know if you know this,
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Speaker 2: but in San Francisco, that Wilson, the mayor, the communist
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Speaker 2: mayor that they elected out there, Yeah, she's getting recalled
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Speaker 2: right now for what I feel like is less than
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Speaker 2: what we're dealing with in Cincinnati. You know, the typical things,
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Speaker 2: not not taking care of the citizens, hiding camera evidence
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Speaker 2: of things, turning off cameras, you know, treating the police
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Speaker 2: like second class citizens. And this is another thing. You know,
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Speaker 2: fire and police, I mean, these people are the backbone
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Speaker 2: of our city. They protect us, they keep us safe,
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Speaker 2: and this is how they're being treated. I mean the
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Speaker 2: two big cases, the Thigi case and now this one,
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Speaker 2: I mean that was that's this is you know, police
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Speaker 2: and fire and these are the people. This is the
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Speaker 2: way they get treated. But you know, if you're a
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Speaker 2: homelessness advocate or you're whatever, I mean, you're treated like a.
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Speaker 1: God in this city without question. And I guess I
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Speaker 1: have to wonder from a political standpoint, you know, mayor
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Speaker 1: have tab perval. I suspect might have to do something
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Speaker 1: about Cheryl Long. I mean, his reputation is being tarnished
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Speaker 1: by what she has done in just those two employment
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Speaker 1: acts and maybe other areas as well. But both of
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Speaker 1: them were terminated. It's already been determined legally that Chief
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Speaker 1: Washington's rights were violated in the UH pretermination hearing, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: So that's a subject matter of that. Chief Thiji's issues
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Speaker 1: have yet to be litigated. That's it's going to be
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Speaker 1: a big, sizable payout. But as of by all accounts,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Long was solely responsible for making these decisions, and
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Speaker 1: she did it unilaterally. Does that mean you think have
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Speaker 1: to have perval? Will maybe let her, oh throw her
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Speaker 1: under the bus, but then pivot over, she's going to
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Speaker 1: be in front of it, maybe a jury. Will she
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Speaker 1: then in turn perhaps suggest or throw aftab Pervol under
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Speaker 1: the bus? Because I like to believe the way the
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Speaker 1: hierarchy is that these decisions were ultimately made by the
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Speaker 1: mayor and that she was instructed to get rid of
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Speaker 1: these two individuals. What's your take on that, Adam? I
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Speaker 1: may be wrong.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look what happens, Brian. I put it
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Speaker 2: out on Twitter yesterday. Cincinnati is always slow to let
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Speaker 2: go of incompetent leaders I mean, look at our sports teams.
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Speaker 2: How long do we hang on to some of these people?
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Speaker 2: And you know, people come on this show. I come
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Speaker 2: on the show, Todd Zenzer comes on the show, Signal
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Speaker 2: ninety nine comes on the show. And here we are
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Speaker 2: asking for accountability, asking for basic competent leadership, and we
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Speaker 2: can't get it, and we don't seem to be backed
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Speaker 2: up by the rest of the city. I mean, look Seattle,
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Speaker 2: of all places, Brian, the most one of them, those
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Speaker 2: progressive places in the country, is trying to recall their
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Speaker 2: mayor right now. Meanwhile, here Cincinnati is, you know, not
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Speaker 2: paying attention. People are just going to work every day,
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Speaker 2: driving over potholes, and it just seems like nothing ever
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Speaker 2: gets done. And you know, we live in a city
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Speaker 2: with a one party monopoly where they protect each other.
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Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, these people
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Speaker 2: are gonna We've had history of corruption, but at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, these people are going to protect
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Speaker 2: each other. And it's always leadership. If the team loses games,
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Speaker 2: you fire the head coach. In a lot of cases,
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Speaker 2: we seem to hold on to these people, not just
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Speaker 2: in sports, but in politics. And this is the problem,
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Speaker 2: and we need to get down to it. Who's the
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Speaker 2: ring leader of this, what's actually happened? And I'd love
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Speaker 2: to see where that case goes.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, all of our popcorns out. We're just waiting for
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Speaker 1: perhaps some sort of settlement resolution means the city taxpayers
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Speaker 1: are going to be on the hook for paying off
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Speaker 1: Chief Washington, presumably in the order of millions of dollars
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Speaker 1: of course.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again to back pay and it rightfully so, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, for for what happened to him. And and
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Speaker 2: like you said, his reputation is on the line, you know,
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Speaker 2: being this is his this is his career, and being
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Speaker 2: able to go out and support him and his family. Uh,
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Speaker 2: this is important, uh, you know, and and and and
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Speaker 2: I'll be exactly waiting around with my popcorn seeing what
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Speaker 2: happens here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be tough on the City of
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Speaker 1: s in St. Taxpayers, I can assure that. And well,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Chief Washington. Chief Washington's and looking forward to
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Speaker 1: the resolution as well, so he can go out and
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Speaker 1: get a job again. You know there's a petition being
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Speaker 1: circulated by Christopher Smith, and I'm sure you're aware of it,
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Speaker 1: Adam Taylor, to require council members in a super majority
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Speaker 1: to uh TO to chime in on and approve or
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Speaker 1: disprove hiring and firing decisions, getting more people involved that way,
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Speaker 1: Let's just use a hypothetical. I don't know. You've got
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Speaker 1: a police chief that you think you want to get
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Speaker 1: rid of, but do you have any reasons to get
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Speaker 1: rid of him? Bring up before council, have them asked questions,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, why are you firing Chief FIGI for exact
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Speaker 1: and for some to answer the question, because as it
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Speaker 1: turns out, they didn't do that part. They unilaterally filed
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Speaker 1: Chief Dji as well as Washington. And then, as it
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Speaker 1: turns out, the research and the information in the investigation
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Speaker 1: reveals that there was no reason whatsoever for them to
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Speaker 1: have been terminated. They couldn't, with the high benefit of hindsight,
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Speaker 1: even manufacture a legitimate reason. Adam, That's something maybe they
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Speaker 1: should have talked about in advance, right And wouldn't that
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Speaker 1: wouldn't the problem be solved if people sign his Christopher's
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Speaker 1: petition and put it on the ballot to vote on
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Speaker 1: that concept.
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Speaker 2: People should be lining up to sign that petition. If
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Speaker 2: Christopher Smitherman's involved in something, generally there's a reason and
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Speaker 2: a really good reason for it. Yes, you know, outside
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Speaker 2: of Todd Zenzer in this city and you know Signal
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Speaker 2: ninety nine, I'd say Chris is another solid watchdog who
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Speaker 2: pays attention, who actually cares about the city. So you know,
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Speaker 2: if he's putting forth a petition and he's spending his time,
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Speaker 2: he's got a family, you know, kids, and and he's
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Speaker 2: busy and just like everybody. But to go out there
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Speaker 2: and put this kind of time and effort into something,
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Speaker 2: you know, it has to be important. And you know
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Speaker 2: these decisions if made by city council, you know they're
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Speaker 2: gonna be on record. Now you're going to be on
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Speaker 2: city council watching those city council meetings, what listening to
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Speaker 2: them make those decisions. You know, unless it's another Gang
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Speaker 2: of five situation, they start texting each other behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes city business. But you know, this is just where
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Speaker 2: we're at. And unfortunately, you know again we're in this
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Speaker 2: this city, this monopoly where you don't have officials who
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Speaker 2: are elected that are libertarian, moderate, you know, Republican sitting
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Speaker 2: there whose job it is who is elected to balance
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Speaker 2: out city council. You don't have that balance. It's just
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Speaker 2: not there. The city is run one hundred percent from
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Speaker 2: top to bottom by Democrats in progressive Democrats. On top
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Speaker 2: of that, even the school board. And you see what
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Speaker 2: they're doing to us right now with the tax situation.
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Speaker 2: It's absolutely insane. And at some point you're going to
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Speaker 2: reach the same point these people in Seattle have reached
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Speaker 2: where it's like, look, guys, we're tapped out. We can't
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Speaker 2: do anything else. There's crime in the streets. You know,
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Speaker 2: it just seems like lawless, terrible leadership in the city,
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Speaker 2: and people are gonna fight back at some point.
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Speaker 1: Well, and before you take a break here and get
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Speaker 1: over to the infrastructure issues that we're supposed to talk
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Speaker 1: about in advance, anyway, Adam Keaylor.
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Speaker 2: I get fired up, Brian.
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Speaker 1: I know listen, I know you do. And you know what,
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Speaker 1: on a day when my brain isn't working quite properly,
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Speaker 1: it's awesome having you on because I could just shut
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Speaker 1: up and let you handle it. It's wonderful, Adam Keller.
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Speaker 1: But you mentioned earlier on in this discussion people are
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Speaker 1: not paying attention, and I immediately wrote, given up question mark.
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Speaker 1: Do you think it because you know, going back to
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Speaker 1: the last selection, only twenty five percent of registered voters
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Speaker 1: bothered to even cast a vote. That's troubling. But you
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Speaker 1: can say, well, it's off cycle election, it's the primary.
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Speaker 1: You can't get people motivated to go to primary's history
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Speaker 1: demonstrates that. But you know in the regular election cycle
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Speaker 1: not a lot of registered voters show up either. So
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Speaker 1: do you think they're not just simply not paying attention
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Speaker 1: to political matters or that they've just resigned themselves with
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Speaker 1: the fact that, well, I can't get anybody other than
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Speaker 1: a Democrat elected in this all very dark blue city,
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Speaker 1: So why even bother going and trying.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think I think people are paying attention.
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Speaker 2: I just think they're not getting out there because they
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Speaker 2: feel beat down. It's it's no different than the crime
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Speaker 2: is down argument. You know, we hear this all the time.
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Speaker 2: Crime is down in Cincinnati. You've trained people not to
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Speaker 2: report crime. If something happens, my window gets busted out,
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Speaker 2: or you know, somebody assaults me on the street, what's
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Speaker 2: going to happen, Brian. Is anybody going to get prosecuted
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Speaker 2: for that? Am I going to go to court and
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Speaker 2: see whoever it is that that you know, busted my
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Speaker 2: window out and stole the stuff out of my car?
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Speaker 2: Am I going to Am I gonna get any kind
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Speaker 2: of justice in the city for those kind of things?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: So what do I do? I just forget about it.
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Speaker 2: I take it to the glass people, and I get
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Speaker 2: the window fix and I go on about my day.
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Speaker 2: They've trained people to not report crime. That's why crime
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Speaker 2: is down in most cases. And it's the same with
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Speaker 2: these elections. They've trained us that no matter what you do, Brian,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna win in this city. They're gonna win because
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Speaker 2: they've got they've got everything locked down. They've got the
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Speaker 2: voters that they want. They've got the poverty voters, they've
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Speaker 2: got the union voters, they've got the schoolteacher voters. They've
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Speaker 2: got forty thousand votes before anything actually on election day
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Speaker 2: gets counted, all these mail in ballots and the people
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Speaker 2: who voted early. These are all of their people whose
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Speaker 2: jobs and livelihoods are tied to the way they vote.
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Speaker 2: And we have to pay for it. Most of these people,
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Speaker 2: it's we're the taxpayers who are like, hey, let's what's
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Speaker 2: going on in this city. They don't question it, right,
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Speaker 2: so they've trained us not to even bother.
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Speaker 1: So then going back to my not paying attention or
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Speaker 1: given up, it sounds like that is a they've given
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Speaker 1: up or have been, you know, brain or thought controlled
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Speaker 1: into just giving up. Whether it was their personal choice
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Speaker 1: to say why bother, or they've just been told that
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Speaker 1: it's just not worth the effort. I'm not quite sure, Adam.
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Speaker 1: It just sounds like they've given up.
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Speaker 2: Well, and what do people do. They vote with their
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Speaker 2: feet right there you go, once your vote doesn't matter anymore,
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Speaker 2: then you head across the river. Well do you go
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Speaker 2: to Indiana?
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Speaker 1: Adam, real quick here, because we have to take a
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Speaker 1: break the urban hipster land that they created and over
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Speaker 1: the Rhine. You know, yeah, they rehabbed houses. Obviously they
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Speaker 1: were trying to lure tax paying working people, you know,
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Speaker 1: the urban hipsters of the world. Are they starting to
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Speaker 1: flee that project because it was wildly popular for a
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Speaker 1: really long time and I haven't heard really anything about
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Speaker 1: real estate and over the Rhine and whether people are
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Speaker 1: still choosing to move there from their suburban no enclaves.
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Speaker 2: Maybe well, I know a lot of people in real
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Speaker 2: estate right now, and houses aren't moving. If you go
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Speaker 2: go to h ok Lee Hyde Park, houses are selling
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Speaker 2: right single. You know, young family people with money, they're
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Speaker 2: buying houses up there. But in the urban core, good
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Speaker 2: luck selling something. I mean, things were over priced. They
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Speaker 2: hyped it up. But one thing is is they never
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Speaker 2: got rid of the crime. They never got rid of
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Speaker 2: that crime element. They tried to integrate the crime element
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Speaker 2: of anything. And you know, if you're constantly pandering too criminals,
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Speaker 2: you're dehumanizing police, and you're telling victims, hey, get over it,
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Speaker 2: go get your wind to fixed. No big deal, nothing's
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Speaker 2: gonna happen anyway. I mean, what do you do? Do
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Speaker 2: you stick around? You want to spend four hundred thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars on something and over the rhine when you got
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Speaker 2: to deal with that kind of stuff. Are you going
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Speaker 2: to move out to Oakley? Are you're going to go
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Speaker 2: across the river to maybe a Fort Thomas or up
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Speaker 2: further even north, maybe it will Blue Ash or something.
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Speaker 1: And then also the increasing tax bill because since a
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Speaker 1: public school, Lovey will probably pass too, because Adam Keller
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Speaker 1: is going to comment infrastructure another reason people might choose
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Speaker 1: the storm otages, some people are still dealing with that.
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Speaker 1: And Adam Keller pivoting over infrastructure. We started off a
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Speaker 1: little bit just alluded to the topic. We have infrastructure
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Speaker 1: problem in the city. The amount of projects keep piling
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Speaker 1: up year after year after year. They seem to get
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Speaker 1: further behind in the number of like for example, lane
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Speaker 1: miles of road repairs and resurfacing, repaving, potholes are a problem.
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Speaker 1: We could go on and on, and they don't seem
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Speaker 1: to care about what they build. Probably preceded by a
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Speaker 1: ribbon cutting ceremony when something new shows up, but then
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Speaker 1: it just to ignore it onto the next ribbon cutting
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Speaker 1: ceremony and new project that requires ongoing maintenance and up
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Speaker 1: keep that they don't bother paying attention to. Adam, I
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Speaker 1: thought the railroad money was supposed to solve all these problems.
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Speaker 2: Well we thought so. And you know, as the city floods,
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Speaker 2: you know, the mayor's in la at a meeting, just
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Speaker 2: like he always is, but he's he's back in time
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Speaker 2: to raise a flag at city Hall, just in time.
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Speaker 2: So it's it's kind of weird. It almost seems like
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Speaker 2: some of these people were, you know, waiting for their
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Speaker 2: next job and just kind of phoning it in at
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Speaker 2: this point. And you know, fifty six million dollars has
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Speaker 2: been allocated by the Railroad Board to the city, but
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Speaker 2: only a small percentage of that I believe thirteen percent,
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Speaker 2: possibly a fourteen percent has actually been spent. And then
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Speaker 2: you've got this. You know, they've allocated it over half
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Speaker 2: of it fifty one almost fifty two percent of it
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Speaker 2: has been proposed to go to neighborhoods with median household
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Speaker 2: incomes below fifty thousand dollars. So you know, they're being
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Speaker 2: woke with how they spend the money also, and you know,
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Speaker 2: one of the good things is is I come from
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Speaker 2: one of those neighborhoods. Yeah, so you know Westwood, Lower
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Speaker 2: Rice Hill, West Price Hill, those are some of the
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Speaker 2: neighborhoods that are actually going to get the money. But
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Speaker 2: you know, the city hasn't paid attention to those places
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Speaker 2: in probably decades, so doing anything over there is probably
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Speaker 2: going to be help. I mean, how long did we
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Speaker 2: complain about the potholes on Queen City Avenue down there
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Speaker 2: in Sunset?
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Speaker 1: Sunset?
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Speaker 2: That was one of the worst places ever.
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Speaker 1: It was, but you know what, it's a war zone. Well,
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Speaker 1: I guess one could make an argument that those neighborhoods
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Speaker 1: probably deserve the allocation because going back to the broken
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Speaker 1: windows theory, you know, the worse a area looks, the
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Speaker 1: more crime tends to happen there. And there's I'm sure
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Speaker 1: a lot of relatable points on that. But however, they
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Speaker 1: spent the money you said, though allocated. The projects haven't
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Speaker 1: been done though, have they ad them?
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Speaker 2: No? No, this is money that's just been allocated. And Brian,
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Speaker 2: this goes back to an issue how much work can
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Speaker 2: they actually get done?
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Speaker 1: That was my next question. Why isn't it being done?
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Speaker 2: Because there's only so many city workers. I mean, he
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Speaker 2: was supposed to go to college, Brian and get a
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Speaker 2: degree in underwater basket weaving. They weren't supposed to pave
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Speaker 2: roads and do plumbing and electrical work and things like that.
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Speaker 2: You remember, yeah, and you know, you only you only
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Speaker 2: have so many people that can do these these jobs.
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Speaker 2: And you know, city planning can only plan so many
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Speaker 2: projects at a time, and you can only have so
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Speaker 2: many roads closed down and things like that. But you
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Speaker 2: remember how urgent it was, Brian. We had four hundred
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Speaker 2: million dollars worth of delayed maintenance. You remember that in
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Speaker 2: the commercials with with Aftab in the car and he
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Speaker 2: was bumping around and everything. It was so urgent that
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Speaker 2: we get these things done. Well, here we are three
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Speaker 2: years later and you haven't. You've barely spent the money.
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Speaker 2: You've just talked about spending the money, and you have
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Speaker 2: no idea what you're going to spend it on. So
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Speaker 2: you know, what was the urgency If you knew you
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Speaker 2: couldn't get this stuff done? And you know, if you
17:51
Speaker 2: thought you were going to sell this, why not plan
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Speaker 2: it ahead of time. You've got a climate migrant plan
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Speaker 2: for the year twenty sixty that they came up with
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Speaker 2: internally at City Hall, a climate migrant plan for all
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Speaker 2: these people who are just gonna be you know, the
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Speaker 2: coastal cities, Savannah, Georgia, you know Jacksonville, Florida, You Miami.
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Speaker 2: All these people are just gonna rush to move to
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati by the year twenty sixty because of climate change. Brian.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna go. They're gonna go underwater. They're gonna
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Speaker 1: be at the rising sea levels. They're gonna consume Manhattan
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Speaker 1: and the coastal regions. And that was supposed to have
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Speaker 1: happened like a decade ago, Adam Corney to al Gore,
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Speaker 1: I'm still waiting.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Miami was supposed to be underwater by what
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty or something.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty fifteen, twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: I got a condo downtown in Miami, and it's it
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Speaker 2: looks fine to me.
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Speaker 1: It's worth a lot more now than it was. Pretty
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Speaker 1: COVID too, isn't it, Adam?
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Speaker 2: Right in Trump's presidential libraries going across the street, so
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a view of that. Well, I happen
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Speaker 2: to be pretty nice.
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Speaker 1: Adam Keller, We're gonna be following you on the sin
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Speaker 1: SA exchange dot com. You welcome on the Morning Show
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Speaker 1: more often than you come on, So you got a
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Speaker 1: spot here to get your message out. But also I
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Speaker 1: have an answer to the underwater basket weaving degrees. You
19:02
Speaker 1: said those folks should have gone into construction, right, We
19:05
Speaker 1: needed them to do pothole work and electric work and
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Speaker 1: plumbing work. People are catching onto that. Maybe a little
19:10
Speaker 1: behind the curve, but yeah, there's jobs out there there.
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Speaker 1: But who does employ the quote unquote underwater basket weaving
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Speaker 1: degree folks, the NGOs that are a priority for the city.
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Speaker 2: We do. That's right, That's right, Yeah, they are the priority.
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Speaker 2: The people that write the climate migrant plans, Brian. You
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Speaker 2: know there was urgency when it came to that. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 2: you got urgency to write this climate migrant plan for
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Speaker 2: these people that are supposed to show up in Cincinnati
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Speaker 2: by twenty sixty. And not only that, they need housing, Brian.
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Speaker 2: We need the city to be more densely populated by
19:44
Speaker 2: people that they need to vote their way, so you know,
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Speaker 2: pack them in as much as possible. Pack the homeless
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Speaker 2: people in up at the former church there.
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Speaker 1: S you know, well that's where Adam, that's where their
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Speaker 1: business model falls apart. What you need to be packed
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Speaker 1: in are people who are earning a living and paying
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Speaker 1: into the system, right.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that's what you should be. And this
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Speaker 2: is what I always said when I was running office,
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Speaker 2: I said, invest in prosperity, not poverty.
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Speaker 1: Adam Kaylor, maybe you should be an elected office. There's
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Speaker 1: an opportunity. Oh that's right. We did try that, didn't.
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Speaker 1: We add him and we