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911 call released: Kidnapped teen Jayme Closs tells dog walker: 'You gotta help me!' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: to take her with Douglas County nine. One. Hi. I
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Speaker 1: have a youngly at my health right now, and she
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Speaker 1: just says her name is Jamie Cloth. Okay. Have you
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Speaker 1: seen her photo, ma'am? Yes? It does her think it?
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Speaker 1: It's her? Okay? Does it look like she's going to run? No,
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Speaker 1: she's sitting down and she's relaxing. Okay, hang on just
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Speaker 1: a second. What's your name? Yep, your name, ma'am, christencuz
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Speaker 1: in skiffs Christen. How do you say your last name?
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Speaker 1: K A S I N S? Okay? Okay? Did she
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Speaker 1: show up walking? A neighbor just walked up with her
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Speaker 1: to our house and says to come on one one? Okay,
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Speaker 1: hang on just a second. A cold? You need a
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Speaker 1: blanket or anything? Do you need to drink or water
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Speaker 1: or anything? Okay? Have you watched these shows lincol It
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Speaker 1: is their favorite by some Lincoln where we like Lincoln left.
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Speaker 1: That's partly Christen. I'm gonna keep you on the line. Okay, Okay,
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Speaker 1: he sounds good. I can barely hear this, lady. I
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Speaker 1: got him. You'll be relay to go where you go
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Speaker 1: like you know. Look, if somebody comes to this healthy,
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Speaker 1: it is amazing. When the nine one one dispatch, here's
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Speaker 1: Jamie Class is sitting in my den. She seems to
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Speaker 1: ask all types of inane questions. It's a miracle. Jamie,
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Speaker 1: thirteen year old kidnapped from her own home, sees her
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Speaker 1: mom shot dead in the head as mom holds her
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Speaker 1: in a beer hug, barricaded in the bathroom in the bathtub,
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Speaker 1: her dad lying dead at the front door as she's
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Speaker 1: dragged out with hands and ankles taped. In the last hours,
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Speaker 1: her alleged kidnapper in court. We want justice, I mean,
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Speaker 1: see Grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. You are hearing a portion of the nine
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Speaker 1: one one call made by a family not too far
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Speaker 1: from that remote cabin where Jamie Class was held prisoner
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Speaker 1: for eighty eight days. Let's take a listen to more
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Speaker 1: of that nine one one call up the least off.
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Speaker 1: Yes she is okay, we got yeah. Can you ask
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Speaker 1: the neighbor did the female just walk up to her
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Speaker 1: house or how did she come across her? She wants
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Speaker 1: to know where she came from, how you got her
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Speaker 1: a set worst. Okay, hold on one second. I'm married, okay,
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Speaker 1: Gie Nudder, I was, we have a cabin up here
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Speaker 1: in Gordon and okay, ma'am, ma'am and I was ma'am, yes, okay.
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Speaker 1: Can I just get your name, Jeanie Nudder and etcr.
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Speaker 1: So how did she come up upon your cabin? I
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Speaker 1: was walking my dog and we were almost home, and
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Speaker 1: she was walking towards me, crying, saying, you got to
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Speaker 1: help you, you you got to help me. Okay. So I
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Speaker 1: didn't want to go into my cabin because it's too
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Speaker 1: close to pat and she sat her. Her name is
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Speaker 1: Janie Klass yep. And when I walked into this house,
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Speaker 1: they recognized her immediately from okay, you are hearing the
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Speaker 1: nine one one call where Jamie Klass was reported alive
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Speaker 1: joining me forensics expert Karen Smith, judge and lawyer. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley Wilcott,
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Speaker 1: renowned forensic psychiatrist, doctor Daniel Bober, California prosecutor, no stranger
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Speaker 1: to a courtroom, Wendy Patrick joining me, Alan Duke in
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Speaker 1: La Jackie Howard in the studio, and right now to
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Speaker 1: Crime Online dot com investigative reporter, syndicated talk show host
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Speaker 1: Dave Mac Dave Mack, it's almost too much to take
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Speaker 1: in that this girl lived, the girl that lived. I
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Speaker 1: know you've read or watched Terry Potter. He's always described
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Speaker 1: as the boy who lived. This is the girl who lived,
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Speaker 1: because statistically it's virtually impossible and a stranger on child
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Speaker 1: abduction for the child to live past twenty four hours,
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Speaker 1: much less for eighty eight days. Yesterday, Rolla's kidnapper in court.
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Speaker 1: What happened in courts we actually got our first glimpse
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Speaker 1: of the monster, answering a couple of quick questions. Yes, no,
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Speaker 1: that was about it. But we did find everything else
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Speaker 1: that happened in the lead up to did he know
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Speaker 1: Jamie Claus? What did he know about the family? Which
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Speaker 1: we found out horrific information from the get go of
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Speaker 1: how he plotted and planned. The depth of depravity that
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Speaker 1: he went through in his planning was just incredible. In
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Speaker 1: the criminal documents I noticed in court which has just occurred,
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Speaker 1: this guy Jake Patterson in court, calm and cool as
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Speaker 1: a pickle, there with his lawyer looking right into the camera,
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Speaker 1: answering clearly and coherently Meanwhile, his father and brother Eric
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Speaker 1: her in court and the father is crying out loud,
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Speaker 1: sobbing out loud. Ask you, Walcott, you're a judgment lawyer.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of him being so composed as
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Speaker 1: he is being formally charged with two counts of murder
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Speaker 1: and one count of kidnapping. Oh God, Nancy, this is
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Speaker 1: just horrible. I don't understand. It's like he thinks that's
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Speaker 1: another day, a walk in the park, no big deal,
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Speaker 1: going to the grocery store. I'm composed. I did it here,
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Speaker 1: I am in court. YEP. I planned, I plotted, and
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Speaker 1: I stole this child and killed her parents. I don't
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Speaker 1: get it. You know, to Wendy Patrick, you're a veteran
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Speaker 1: prosecutor in the California jurisdiction. It amazes me. And we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about what Dave Mack talk show host
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Speaker 1: just brought up. All the detail in the criminal complaint.
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Speaker 1: We learned all that detail from him from the alleged perp, Patterson.
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Speaker 1: But what's so odd, Wendy, is that he went through
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Speaker 1: so much pain to not leave behind DNA evidence or fingerprints.
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Speaker 1: He shaved his head, he washed himself, he took his shower,
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Speaker 1: he wore two pair of gloves, He covered his face,
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Speaker 1: He went in about bought a balaclava, one of those.
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Speaker 1: It's basically a hood. You see ninjas wear them, and
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Speaker 1: all you can see it's their eyes. And he shows up.
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Speaker 1: He disarms the dome light inside of his maroon for
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Speaker 1: a Taurus. He gets extinguishes the light in the trunk.
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Speaker 1: He even gets rid of the emergency chord that glows
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Speaker 1: in the dark and the trunk so you can get
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Speaker 1: out of the trunk if you're trapped. He does all
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Speaker 1: of that, but then when cops set him down, he
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Speaker 1: sings like a bird wandy in very horrifying detail. As
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Speaker 1: Dave Max said, what's that about? Was he proud and
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Speaker 1: was he acting proud of his crimes in court? You know, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: it seems almost like that's the case. We do see
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Speaker 1: that in certain types of crimes where somebody appears to
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Speaker 1: go over and above to clear up their tracks and
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Speaker 1: make sure they leave no evidence, and then on the
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Speaker 1: other side, when they're finally caught, they go into grueling
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Speaker 1: detail regarding the level of sophistication and planning. As you say,
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Speaker 1: as if it's something to be proud of. Now obviously
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Speaker 1: he was caught, so we didn't go far enough. But
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Speaker 1: I all of weren't wonder when you look at the
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Speaker 1: way that Jamie escaped, it didn't appear that it was
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Speaker 1: as difficult as you might think. And then you start
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Speaker 1: to wonder what was this man's motive all along? And
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Speaker 1: that's one of the things that it has fascinated or
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Speaker 1: I should say, captivated the criminal law community right now
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Speaker 1: to figure out how could somebody possibly do something like
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Speaker 1: this and then, as you say, not only remain cool
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Speaker 1: as a cucumber in court, but be so forthcoming about
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Speaker 1: everything he did. Doctor Daniel Bober, you're the forensic psychiatrist.
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Speaker 1: I'd like you to analyze what you observed in the courtroom. Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I think it's about power, it's about control, It's about
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Speaker 1: you know, narcissistic traits, and wanting to talk about the
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Speaker 1: things that you've done, almost like you're celebrating a trophy.
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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of that plays into it,
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Speaker 1: you know, I swear I think he was acting proud
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Speaker 1: to Karen Smith, you're the forensics expert. Joining us, Karen,
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Speaker 1: Pride is one thing, but covering up forensics is a
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Speaker 1: whole other. Can of worms. Karen Smith, that's correct. There's
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Speaker 1: plenty of forensic evidence, and unfortunately, at this point it's
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Speaker 1: going to be up to the shotgun shelves that were
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Speaker 1: left behind, possibly shoeprints and tire tracks. It is limited,
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Speaker 1: but there is going to be forensic evidence left behind.
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Speaker 1: You said Jamie's and shot the great out of the
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Speaker 1: home of the buzz of the world. The criminal complaint
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Speaker 1: indicates that she was able to push herself out from
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Speaker 1: under the bed and that she put on Patterson's shoes.
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Speaker 1: They were on the wrong feet, but she was able.
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Speaker 1: Then she walked out the front door and saw miss
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Speaker 1: Hutter and at that point made the statements that she
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Speaker 1: was in need of help. He indicated that if he
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Speaker 1: had been stopped by police, it was likely he was
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Speaker 1: going to shoot at police officers the three shotgun shells
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Speaker 1: that he had remaining, kept the shotgun shell inside of
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Speaker 1: his house for two weeks in case the police came.
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Speaker 1: He remained in hiding after abducting Jamie for eighty eight
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Speaker 1: days before he was apprehended, Your honor. All of this
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Speaker 1: indicates the defendant is a flight risk, a danger to
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Speaker 1: the public, and he is unlikely to further return for
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Speaker 1: further court proceedings without an exceedingly high cash bail. The
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Speaker 1: state asks the court to consider Section nine sixty nine
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Speaker 1: point zero one s four. Proper considerations for the court
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Speaker 1: to consider in setting bail would include the number and
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Speaker 1: gravity of the offenses, the potential penalty the defendant faces,
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Speaker 1: and whether the alleged acts were violent in nature. All
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Speaker 1: of these factors weigh in favor of the state's requested bail.
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Speaker 1: You are hearing part of the court proceedings that have
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Speaker 1: just gone down with this guy, as I call him,
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Speaker 1: Jake Patterson in court for his first year he being
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Speaker 1: formally charged. But what we really learned where we really
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Speaker 1: learned all of the details regarding how he allegedly kidnapped
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Speaker 1: the thirteen year old girl after just spotting her boarding
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Speaker 1: the school bus. That's how he found out where she lived.
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Speaker 1: He had he survived at two days at a cheese factory.
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Speaker 1: At that job, he had worked one day at a
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Speaker 1: turkey Egeneo turkey plant. So on his second day, we
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Speaker 1: think working at the cheese factory, he was driving along.
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Speaker 1: He was behind a school bus and he saw a
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Speaker 1: red headed girl getting on the bus, clearly coming straight
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Speaker 1: from her home because he knew where she lived, so
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Speaker 1: the bus likely stopped the very rural area, stopped at
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Speaker 1: her driveway, and she got on, and he said he
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Speaker 1: knew at that moment that was the girl he was
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Speaker 1: going to kidnap. And one of the things that is
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Speaker 1: so scary about that to veteran California prosecutor Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: is that we arm ourselves every day with the knowledge that, well,
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Speaker 1: I've done everything I can do to protect my child.
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Speaker 1: And the internet trolls and the haters and the naysayers,
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Speaker 1: they were all about, oh, she must have been speaking
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Speaker 1: to somebody online. Maybe she has something to do with
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Speaker 1: her parents to death. Maybe this was part of her plan,
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Speaker 1: or she was allowed to be on social media and
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Speaker 1: she was targeted. It was none of that. It was
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Speaker 1: nothing the parents did. It was nothing that she Jamie did.
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Speaker 1: It was all him. It was as random as him
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Speaker 1: pulling up behind a school bus on the way to
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Speaker 1: his job at a cheese factory. And that's how it happened, Wendy,
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Speaker 1: You know what, Nancy, And then that makes it really
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Speaker 1: one of those old fashioned crime stories that you're right.
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Speaker 1: The first thing we do is we jump to conclusions, Well,
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Speaker 1: this is somebody she met online. This must have been
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Speaker 1: somebody she was secretly corresponding with when this was something
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Speaker 1: that could have happened one hundred years ago. This is
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons we have Neighborhood Watch, and it
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Speaker 1: is a reminder to parents that not only the good
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Speaker 1: guys are watching. This is just one of those stories
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Speaker 1: that strikes fear into the heart of any parents because
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Speaker 1: it could have been any child. You're absolutely right straight
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Speaker 1: out to Ashley Wilcott joining me judge lawyer. You can
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Speaker 1: find her at Ashley Wilcott dot com. You know another thing,
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Speaker 1: I think, aside from the haters that we're trying to
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Speaker 1: somehow blame Jamie herself, I think it also makes us
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Speaker 1: feel insulated because people like to say, Oh, I would
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Speaker 1: never let my child on what TikTok or what is
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Speaker 1: that site you told me about musical or whatever, or
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Speaker 1: all the different family chat rooms and texting. I would
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Speaker 1: never let my child do that, or I never let
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Speaker 1: my child post a photo. You know what, We're no
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Speaker 1: different from Jamie Claus's parents, not at all. We are
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Speaker 1: not insulated because we never know when a guy like
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Speaker 1: Jake Patterson is going to come a law behind their
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Speaker 1: school bus. You know, that's the geary, frightening thing. And
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Speaker 1: I think it's a reminder, as you just heard from
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Speaker 1: a prosecutor, parents have got to be diligent and recognized
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Speaker 1: and realized any scenario is possible anymore. It can be
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Speaker 1: a random, freak crime that affects your family and your child.
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Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, Nancy, that's not the norm, so
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Speaker 1: to speak. Right, typically it's by someone that you know,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. So you have
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Speaker 1: to be diligent as a parent, not to blame, not
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Speaker 1: to cast blame, not to throw stones, but instead to say,
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Speaker 1: it could be anything. It could be random, it could
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Speaker 1: be somebody I know, And we're going to look at
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Speaker 1: every scenario because anything is possible anymore. To Dave Max,
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Speaker 1: syndicated talk show hosted joining us with all the details.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday we saw him in court, his head steel shaved,
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Speaker 1: and you know when he looked up at that camera,
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Speaker 1: just head on, I just wanted to slap that arrogant
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Speaker 1: look right off his face. Oh if I could have
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Speaker 1: just got my fingers around his neck. But what I
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Speaker 1: really learned, where I really learned all my facts was
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Speaker 1: from documents details of Jamie's kidnap emerged a criminal complaint
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Speaker 1: just really just before Patterson's first court appearance there in
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Speaker 1: Bear in Wisconsin. What do we learn from those documents
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Speaker 1: to day. First of all, let's talk about how he
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Speaker 1: sings to the cops like a bird, about how well
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Speaker 1: planned out the whole thing was. Explain he was bragging Nancy.
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Speaker 1: He was so proud of what he had pulled off.
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Speaker 1: You know, the part that gets me about this is
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Speaker 1: other than the random nature, is that he said that
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Speaker 1: he was looking for someone to take Nancy. It just
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Speaker 1: happened to me that he saw her because he said
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Speaker 1: he knew when he saw her that that was who
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Speaker 1: he was going to take, meaning this was something he
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Speaker 1: had been concocting for a while. He had plotted and
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Speaker 1: planned so much, all the forensics where he had wiped
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Speaker 1: down the shotgun shells so that they wouldn't have a fingerprint, it,
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Speaker 1: shaved himself and bathed and all those things so that
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't leave nothing behind. It's one of the things,
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Speaker 1: if you remember when we first started covering this, that
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Speaker 1: there was so little evidence. There was four minutes in
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Speaker 1: the house and that was it. He actually claimed that
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Speaker 1: he had planned it so much. He had been to
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Speaker 1: the house two other times prior to abducting Jamie, and
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Speaker 1: the first time there were too many cars there. The
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Speaker 1: second time he saw lights in the house and people
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Speaker 1: moving around. It was the third time, twelve fifty three
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Speaker 1: in the morning, when he drives into the driveway. He
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Speaker 1: turns the lights off to his car and parks at
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Speaker 1: the end of the driveway. Jamie said that she heard
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Speaker 1: her dog barking, saw somebody walking up the driveway, and
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Speaker 1: went and woke her dad up. Dad goes to the door,
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Speaker 1: and what we heard, or what we read in these
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Speaker 1: core papers is that Patterson was standing outside and mister
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Speaker 1: Claus said, show me a badge. When he didn't do that,
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Speaker 1: he shot oho back back it up, back it up,
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Speaker 1: back it up. Karen Smith, forensics expert, I think the
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Speaker 1: whole thing, the scenario that night started in Jamie's home
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Speaker 1: with it Jamie, because according to these court documents, and
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Speaker 1: I've combed over them with a fine tooth comb, she
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Speaker 1: is the one that woke up first because her dog
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Speaker 1: that was sleeping in her room started barking. She sees
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Speaker 1: someone pulling in the sees somebody pulling in the driveway.
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Speaker 1: She goes and gets her dad and mom. The dad
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Speaker 1: goes to the door. Is that the way you understood it,
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Speaker 1: Karen Smith, Yeah, that's exactly the way that I understood it.
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Speaker 1: She was the one that woke her dad up. The
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Speaker 1: dad went to investigate at the front door, and then everything.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Karen Smith, I know it may not
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Speaker 1: be pure forensics, which is your forte, but how many
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Speaker 1: cases have cracked wide open because of a dog? Lots
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Speaker 1: of them loves And when somebody's on the run, you
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Speaker 1: listen for the dogs. When somebody's running away, you got
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Speaker 1: one to run in, you listen for the dogs. And
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Speaker 1: how many times have you hurt the dog never barked translation,
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Speaker 1: it was somebody the dog knew. Not in this case,
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Speaker 1: the dog was barking his head off. But Dave mac
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Speaker 1: that's not necessarily contrary to what you were saying. You said.
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Speaker 1: The dad goes to the door, and according to Patterson's
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Speaker 1: own statement, he says he pulled up and he could
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Speaker 1: see the dad inside standing at a window with a flashlight,
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Speaker 1: looking out into the yard, trying to figure out why
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Speaker 1: was the dog barking, What was happening, and Dave Matt
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Speaker 1: what happened? Then? That's when Patterson says that the flashlight
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Speaker 1: was being shown out the front door. That's when mister Patterson,
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Speaker 1: Well Patterson goes to the door. Mister Class then says,
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Speaker 1: show me a badge. That's when Class he was trying
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Speaker 1: to open the door. Patterson was trying to open the door.
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Speaker 1: He couldn't get in, so he shot through the ornamental
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Speaker 1: glass pane in the door, striking mister Claus in the face.
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Speaker 1: He then had to shoot the dead bolt on the
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Speaker 1: front door to make entry into the class made no
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Speaker 1: move on Patterson at all. Jamie's dad was standing at
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Speaker 1: the door looking out, and this guy admits he shot
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Speaker 1: through the crystal pains of the door, killing Jamie's dad
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. I think exactly where she lived that stated
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Speaker 1: in the criminal complaint. He was driving. I believed it
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Speaker 1: was either too or home from work, saw a schoolbus,
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Speaker 1: saw her and had made the decision at that point
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Speaker 1: that he was going to take her, and he watched her.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's specifically stated in the criminal complaint,
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Speaker 1: but that's where he observed it. How long business again,
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Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to answer that at this time. Apportant
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Speaker 1: is it for you to get a conviction in this case?
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Speaker 1: Given the national media's goal of year, it's extremely important.
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Speaker 1: It's extremely important because we are seeking justice. We have
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Speaker 1: two parents of a thirteen year old who have deceased.
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Speaker 1: We have a thirteen year old who was abducted for
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Speaker 1: eighty eight days against her will. Forcibly, it doesn't get
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Speaker 1: any more serious than that. And I assure you that
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Speaker 1: these prosecutors here, all of us, want justice for both
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Speaker 1: James and Denis and Frgie. The shootings were brutal. Jamie's
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Speaker 1: dad shot dead in the head, left there when Cop
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Speaker 1: Scott got to the door, they could see his feet
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Speaker 1: and legs. Patterson, by his own statement, goes down the
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Speaker 1: hall on the hunt said he was prepared to kill
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Speaker 1: anybody else in that home, even if it were a child,
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Speaker 1: to leave no witness behind. He goes to the back.
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Speaker 1: He finds a bathroom door locked inside. After kicking the
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Speaker 1: door in, he finds, after ripping the shower curtain off
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Speaker 1: the wall, Jamie in the bathtub in a bear hug,
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Speaker 1: being held by her mother. He produces guerrilla tape, black
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Speaker 1: guerrilla duct tape. He tells the mom to put it
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Speaker 1: across Jamie's mouth. When she couldn't do it, he wraps
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Speaker 1: it all the way around Jamie's head. He binds her
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Speaker 1: ankles and her wrists and then turns and with one
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Speaker 1: bullet in front of Jamie, shoots her mother in the head.
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Speaker 1: It's so brutal. The mom's still sitting up in the
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Speaker 1: bathtub when cops get there, dead and part of her
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Speaker 1: skull is lying beside her in the bathtub. He drags
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Speaker 1: Jamie out of the home, telling her she's got a walk.
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Speaker 1: He didn't even remember he had bound her ankles together,
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Speaker 1: forces here in the trunk, and drives off in the irony,
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Speaker 1: Dave Mac, as he's driving away, oncoming the police car
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Speaker 1: where Jamie's mom had managed to call nine one one.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't tell what was going on, and then it
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Speaker 1: went dead. That's because Patterson, by his own words, ordered
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Speaker 1: her to turn off the cell phone to hang up.
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Speaker 1: That cop was so observant, because that cop saw a
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Speaker 1: reddish colored car, possibly a Chorus, with a tag missing
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Speaker 1: on the front, and a white male driving. That was him.
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Speaker 1: That was Jake Patterson, Dave Mac. Jay Patterson had actually
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Speaker 1: pulled off to allow the police vehicles to pass him by.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned that the police officer observed there was no
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Speaker 1: front plate. Not every state requires front and back. This
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Speaker 1: one does he had. Jay Patterson had planned this out
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Speaker 1: so much that he'd actually stolen place for another vehicle,
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Speaker 1: and he put one on the rear, failing to put
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Speaker 1: one on the front. This police officer was on his
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Speaker 1: way to nine one one call that was cut off short.
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Speaker 1: They knew there was chaos, but he still took the
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Speaker 1: time to observe all of that. After Patterson had pulled
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Speaker 1: off to allow the squad cars to pass him by,
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Speaker 1: and Jamie actually described hearing the sirens, they then proceeded on.
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Speaker 1: It was just pure happenstance that he got away with
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Speaker 1: that one I see Wendy Patrick, Felony prosecutor out of California.
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Speaker 1: Defendant states he quote put quite a bit of thought
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Speaker 1: into the details of how he was going to abduct
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Speaker 1: j LC Jamie Class. On one of the nights prior
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Speaker 1: to his third trip to the Class home, defendant stated
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Speaker 1: he drove a few miles down the road County Highway
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Speaker 1: near Sarona and stole license places off a vehicle in
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Speaker 1: the yard in its yard, defendant stated he stole the
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Speaker 1: place because he did not want to get stopped or
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Speaker 1: spot with his own plates on his car. This was
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Speaker 1: so well thought out. There is no doubt in my
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Speaker 1: mind this is murder one, Wendy. You know, Nancy, you
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Speaker 1: often don't have this detail of a confession so early on.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that the prosecutors and the investigators
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Speaker 1: are going to look out is to make sure that
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Speaker 1: all of these details match up with the forensics, because,
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Speaker 1: as you said earlier, when there is an amount of
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Speaker 1: bragging to it, I thought of everything, Here's what I thought,
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Speaker 1: here's what I did. What's missing And by the way,
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Speaker 1: this is all going to come out of the sentencing
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Speaker 1: hearing in terms of what is this case deserve? Well,
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Speaker 1: what's missing so far that is everybody's gonna want to
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Speaker 1: know is why, What was the purpose of going through
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Speaker 1: all of this? Why was he looking for somebody to abduct?
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Speaker 1: Why did you select Jamie? It is that kind of
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Speaker 1: detail that we're still going to learn. But you're right,
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Speaker 1: the issue isn't a who'd done it, but a why
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Speaker 1: why in the world with somebody abduct in such a
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Speaker 1: cold blooded fashion, as you've mentioned, such a beautiful young girl.
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Speaker 1: You know, interesting Ashley Wilcott. The number one motive for
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Speaker 1: stranger on child kidnap is sex motive. We know that
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Speaker 1: when he got her out of the trunk. And this
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Speaker 1: is by his words, not mine. The little girl was
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Speaker 1: so scared, she was crying and she had urinated all
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Speaker 1: over herself, and he told her to take to strip,
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Speaker 1: to take off her clothes, and he then later gave
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Speaker 1: her his sister's pajamas. There were no sex assault charges
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Speaker 1: in the indictment. However, I did notice at the end
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Speaker 1: of court, while he was being ordered to stay away
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Speaker 1: from the witnesses and have no contact of any kind
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Speaker 1: with them, DNA was ordered. A DNA sample was ordered
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Speaker 1: taken from him. What does that mean to you, Ashley
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Speaker 1: will cut so Nancy in terms of the DNA. The
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Speaker 1: reason they also I believe, are ordering or requesting and
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Speaker 1: getting a for DNA is because, look, Frankly, who knows
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Speaker 1: what legal maneuvers he's going to make. Once he has
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Speaker 1: an attorney. They may argue that his confession is inadmissible,
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Speaker 1: and there are lots of reasons that argument has valid
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Speaker 1: constitutional rights involved that that could happen. So they've got
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Speaker 1: to continue to gather all of the evidence so that
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Speaker 1: if there's any reason his confession is thrown out, they
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Speaker 1: can still prove the case, Yes, he's confessed to a
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Speaker 1: lot of details of what he did, but that doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean that he did not sexually assaulter. It means he
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Speaker 1: did not admit that he did that, and so you
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Speaker 1: have to cover your basis. We don't know what statement
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Speaker 1: she's given to the police yet, who knows what she
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Speaker 1: said in the horrific experience that she had with this perpetrator.
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Speaker 1: So the DNA test maybe to shore up and determine
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Speaker 1: did he also sexually assaulter? We all pray not, but
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Speaker 1: no stone unturned to hold him responsible for every single
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Speaker 1: crime he committed. To doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, if
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Speaker 1: this was not a sex crime, then what was the
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Speaker 1: motivation of getting the girl, killing two people, being willing
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Speaker 1: to kill others to keep or what did they are
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Speaker 1: under the twin bed of your cabin Nancy. Some people
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Speaker 1: are just motivated by power and control. It doesn't always
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Speaker 1: include sex, although more often than not it does. But
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Speaker 1: this is a criminal on a whole nother level. This
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Speaker 1: is not someone who just gave into their impulses. But
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Speaker 1: this was someone who is cold, who is calculating, and
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Speaker 1: who made as many attempts as possible to conceal his
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Speaker 1: tracks you know. The ad District Attorney laid out many
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Speaker 1: reasons why Patterson is a flight risk. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: as we hear the argument in court regarding the bail
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Speaker 1: the five million dollar bail request. He indicated that if
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Speaker 1: he had been stopped by police, it was likely he
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Speaker 1: was going to shoot at police officers with the three
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Speaker 1: shotgun shells that he had remaining, kept the shotgun shell
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Speaker 1: inside of his house for two weeks in case the
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Speaker 1: police came. He remained in hiding after abducting Janey for
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Speaker 1: eighty eight days before he was apprehended, Your honor. All
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Speaker 1: of this indicates the defendant is a flight risk, a
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Speaker 1: danger to the public, and he is unlikely to further
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Speaker 1: return for further court proceedings without an exceedingly high cash bail.
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Speaker 1: The state asks the court to consider Section nine sixty
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Speaker 1: nine point zero one sub four. Proper considerations for the
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Speaker 1: court to consider and setting bail would include the number
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Speaker 1: and gravity of the offenses, the potential penalty the defendant faces,
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Speaker 1: and whether the alleged acts were violent in nature. All
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Speaker 1: of these factors weigh in favor of the state's requested bail.
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Speaker 1: Mister Wright, the State's recommendation regarding bail. State is asking
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Speaker 1: the court to set cash bail in the amount of
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Speaker 1: five million dollars. Mister Patterson has no ties to Barren County.
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Speaker 1: The allegations and the complaint are that he worked at
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Speaker 1: Saputo Cheese factory for two days. The only reason other
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Speaker 1: than that for being in Barren County was to kidnap Jamie.
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Speaker 1: State asks the court to look at the charges themselves.
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Speaker 1: He's charged with two counts, the first degree intentional homicide
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Speaker 1: maximum sentence on each of those counts life imprisonment, the
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Speaker 1: count of kidnapping forty years, the count of armed burglary
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. The state asks you to consider the efforts
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Speaker 1: he took to conceal himself, as alleged in the criminal complaint,
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Speaker 1: The modifications that he made to his vehicle so that
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Speaker 1: police wouldn't find him, including stealing license plates on the
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Speaker 1: vehicle near Serona, putting him on his vehicle before he
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Speaker 1: went to the class residence so that if police did
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Speaker 1: see him, they would not be able to trace his
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Speaker 1: vehicle back to his plates, The fact that he disengaged
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Speaker 1: his dome light to make sure that no one would
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Speaker 1: be able to see him, enter or exit his vehicle,
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Speaker 1: fact that he purchased a mask, fact that he wiped
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Speaker 1: down shotgun hit the shotgun that was located at his house,
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Speaker 1: and the shells that were used to kill James and
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Speaker 1: Denise by his own words, so that no DNA or
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Speaker 1: fingerprints would be found. The fact that it is alleged
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Speaker 1: he shaved his face, all of his head hair and
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Speaker 1: showered before leaving for the Class home so no DNA
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Speaker 1: or fingerprints could be located. The fact that he turned
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Speaker 1: his engine off, headlights off to conceal his arrival at
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Speaker 1: the class home. The fact that he had made a
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Speaker 1: decision that he was going to shoot anyone inside that home,
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Speaker 1: including children, because he could not leave behind any eyewitnesses.
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Speaker 1: And let's follow that through to its logical end. Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: no witnesses, has already killed the mom, The dad was
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Speaker 1: prepared to shoot whoever was in the home in order
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Speaker 1: to get Jamie. What about what was going to happen
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Speaker 1: when he got tired of her, when he got tired
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Speaker 1: of hiding her under the twin bed, and the mentality
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Speaker 1: of the wording he uses. Those neighbors were very right
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Speaker 1: to say get a gun because they knew this guy
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Speaker 1: had already killed two people to get Jamie. If he
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Speaker 1: found her when she escaped, wouldn't he killed them too,
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Speaker 1: And wouldn't he have ultimately killed Jamie class herself? Wendy, Oh, absolutely, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: You know this case is something on so many different
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Speaker 1: levels that Jess goes to show why we take the
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Speaker 1: kind of precautions we do, why we talk to our
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Speaker 1: children about how dangerous strangers can be, and why we
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Speaker 1: try to be as perceptive as we can. God bless
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Speaker 1: that police officer that saw all the detail that he did.
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Speaker 1: If everybody behaved that way, perhaps we would have seen
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Speaker 1: something earlier. For example, sometimes you do see the same
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Speaker 1: car seemed to be casing a house. Many perceptive neighbors
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Speaker 1: noticed this, so you had a lot of red flags here.
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Speaker 1: And by his own admission, he's teaching us what to
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Speaker 1: look for, because you're right that some people will just
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Speaker 1: do away with anybody that could possibly be a witness
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Speaker 1: in court. Thank goodness, we have the result of the
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Speaker 1: forensic tests and to be able to prove these types
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Speaker 1: of core Whinny, do you believe that there will be
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Speaker 1: additional charges? Do you think that is why they ordered
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Speaker 1: a DNA sample taken from him. Well, that's one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons. But you're also correct and that Jamie's going
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Speaker 1: to be interviewed and there haven't been any indication of
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Speaker 1: sexual assault, but once she's interviewed, they will take what
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Speaker 1: she says into consideration. Absolutely. I mean, the prosecutor was
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Speaker 1: clear they could be other charges forthcoming, and that wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be unusual in a case like this where investigation is continuing,
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Speaker 1: and to forensics expert out of the forty jurisdation, Karen Smith,
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Speaker 1: Karen sure they could have gotten his DNA from items
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Speaker 1: at the cabin, but then you would have had to
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Speaker 1: prove that was his toothbrush or his hairbrush. Doing it
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Speaker 1: pursuing to a warrant where you have a witness see
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Speaker 1: has blood drawn and take that vial of blood to
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Speaker 1: the crime web. There's no question in chain of custody.
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Speaker 1: Why do you believe they asked for a DNA at
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Speaker 1: this juncture. Well, there's a couple of reasons. The first
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Speaker 1: that you've already discussed with the possibility of sexual assault.
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Speaker 1: The other is that you know he says he wiped
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Speaker 1: down the shellcasing the shotgun shells and he wiped down
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Speaker 1: the gun. I'll tell you what. They're a thing called
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Speaker 1: secondary transfer of DNA. And even if you wear gloves,
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Speaker 1: we all touch our face, we all scratch, we all,
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Speaker 1: you know, touch various parts of our bare skin. And
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Speaker 1: if he did that and then he secondarily transferred that
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Speaker 1: back onto the shotgun shells or back onto the shotgun,
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Speaker 1: there you go. It's another reason that they want to
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Speaker 1: have that for comparative analysis later on to ask you. Wilcott,
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Speaker 1: juvenile judge and lawyer. You can find her at Ashley
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Speaker 1: Wilcot dot com. Ashley. A trickle of photos are being
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Speaker 1: released of Jamie and she's always smiling and all of
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Speaker 1: these photos, you know, that doesn't mean a thing to me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, my twins have smiled at a camera since
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Speaker 1: they were eighteen months old. The fact that she's smiling
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Speaker 1: at the camera, that means nothing to me. Now it
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Speaker 1: shouldn't mean anything because she's been traumatized by multiple events.
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Speaker 1: The fear of somebody coming into the house, recognizing her
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Speaker 1: father's been shot and then killed, seeing her mother get killed,
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Speaker 1: being put in a trunk, not knowing where she's going, etc. Etc.
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Speaker 1: All of these individual traumatic events affect her brain necessarily,
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Speaker 1: and so she is not only undergoing the trauma of
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Speaker 1: what she's seen, her brain's been affected by it. She
35:27
Speaker 1: is going to need a lot to recover from this,
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Speaker 1: and she's always going to have these horrible experiences. So
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Speaker 1: smiling at the camera doesn't mean anything about how someone's
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Speaker 1: doing on the inside. He has destroyed a thirteen year old.
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Speaker 1: She will no longer feel like a thirteen year old
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Speaker 1: because of what he's done to her too, Doctor Daniel
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Speaker 1: Bober Reynow, forensic psychiatrist. Doctor Bober, you know people make
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Speaker 1: light of memory laws surrounding traumatic events, but I can
35:55
Speaker 1: personally state that it is true to this day. They're
35:59
Speaker 1: big chunks of time before and after my Fianc's martyr.
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Speaker 1: I can't recall at all. When I ever see a
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Speaker 1: high school classman, I'm like, what happened in high school?
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Speaker 1: Or a college film, what happened that freshman year? In
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Speaker 1: that sophomore year. I just I can't remember, doctor Bober.
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Speaker 1: She said the moment she ran into Jeane Nutter, the
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Speaker 1: retired social worker, in the street, she said, I've been kidnapped.
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Speaker 1: This guy killed both my parents. I want to go home.
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Speaker 1: She can never go home because the home she remembers
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Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore. Her parents are not there, they will
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Speaker 1: never be there. Her way of life is over, It's gone,
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Speaker 1: can never be reconstructed. What does this do to a
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Speaker 1: child of her age? Doctor bober Well, Nancy, we talked
36:48
Speaker 1: about fight flight or freeze, and there's chemicals in the
36:51
Speaker 1: brain that are released, like cortisol and adrenaline, which altered
36:55
Speaker 1: the way memories restored. So very often people will have
36:57
Speaker 1: no memory of the event, and it's sort of the
36:59
Speaker 1: mind's way of protecting itself from the intensity and the
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Speaker 1: severity of the trauma. But over time, there may be
37:05
Speaker 1: things in the environment that you experienced that triggered these
37:08
Speaker 1: memories and caused them to bubble up to the surface.
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Speaker 1: To Ellen, joining me from La, what can you tell
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Speaker 1: me about this guy's older brother that shared that cabin
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Speaker 1: with Patterson after their parents split until the time the
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Speaker 1: older brother moved away. What do we know about this
37:24
Speaker 1: older brother and what influence he may have had on Patterson. Well,
37:27
Speaker 1: we do know that after the divorce, when I believe
37:30
Speaker 1: Patterson was about ten years old, the kids were still together.
37:33
Speaker 1: This was before they went to foster care, and the
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Speaker 1: older brother was arrested and convicted on a fourth degree
37:39
Speaker 1: sexual assault charge. And whether his younger brother saw or
37:44
Speaker 1: knew much about that, we don't know, but that is
37:47
Speaker 1: an indication that he was exposed to something. Alan, You're right.
37:50
Speaker 1: Court records show no previous criminal history for Jake Patterson himself,
37:55
Speaker 1: but their brother, the older brother, his Facebook page says
37:59
Speaker 1: he's moved to Colorado and did work at a subway,
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Speaker 1: does have a criminal history for fourth degree sex assault.
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Speaker 1: Wis cousin. Court records show that the brother had apparently
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Speaker 1: met up or found a girl, a minor girl in
38:15
Speaker 1: a different town. Drove from Gordon to Buffalo City, nearly
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Speaker 1: three hours away to meet a fifteen year old girl
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Speaker 1: to have relations with her. They met online. He had
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Speaker 1: maps closed a police scanner in his car at the time,
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Speaker 1: and he actually was convicted on that on a lesser charge.
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Speaker 1: What if any effect did that have on Jake Patterson.
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Speaker 1: The crimes startlingly similar but yet very different. We wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story signing off goodbye friend,