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Episode 57-Tim Brando Final Four Recap and Masters Preview · Johnny's World

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SPEAKER_00: Coming to you live from the Johnny Packer Eyewear Studio in fabulous Dark Vegas, Mississippi, please welcome our co-host, the best iDot this side of the Mr.
0:14
SPEAKER_00: Tippy, BW.
0:18
SPEAKER_00: And now, welcome a true hero, a DF warrior whose favorite motto in life is just keep living.
0:27
SPEAKER_00: Here's Johnny.
0:46
SPEAKER_03: Hello, friends.
0:47
SPEAKER_03: This is BW here again.
0:49
SPEAKER_03: It's that time of year, April the 4th, 2023.
0:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm joined here with my good friend Johnny.
0:58
SPEAKER_03: We're here to talk about the Masters.
1:00
SPEAKER_03: We also have a very special guest that's going to join us, join us today.
1:04
SPEAKER_03: We'll talk a little bit about March Madness and the Masters.
1:08
SPEAKER_03: So, Johnny, how are you doing today, man?
1:11
SPEAKER_04: Uh hello, friends.
1:13
SPEAKER_04: Uh I'm doing great.
1:15
SPEAKER_04: Um, this is the best time of the year, isn't it?
1:17
SPEAKER_04: We got March Madness just wrapped up last night with the national championship game.
1:21
SPEAKER_04: The women's was Sunday, and Masters Week is here.
1:25
SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, we're we're pretty excited about the Masters.
1:29
SPEAKER_03: Me too, Johnny.
1:30
SPEAKER_03: This is this is definitely one of my favorite times of the year.
1:33
SPEAKER_03: I love love the Masters, love the uh Azellas in bloom, love the March Madness baseball season.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: Of course, baseball season's not going too well for us this year, but that's all right.
1:44
SPEAKER_03: At least at least Ole Miss isn't doing good either.
1:47
SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, yeah.
1:48
SPEAKER_04: The last time we were on, I think we had uh we we we did it the opening day of college baseball season with uh with Ben McDonald.
1:55
SPEAKER_04: And you know, his LSU Tigers are number one in the country looking really, really good.
1:59
SPEAKER_04: And uh the Mississippi State Bulldogs, man, they're struggling.
2:03
SPEAKER_04: But so, like you just said, so Miss uh past two national championships, uh the past two years are both in the in the cellar in the SEC West.
2:11
SPEAKER_04: Who would have thought it?
2:12
SPEAKER_04: But uh hey, it's uh that's just the way it goes sometimes.
2:16
SPEAKER_04: But um, I've been to I've been to most of the games this year, and States uh has the talent uh on the roster.
2:22
SPEAKER_04: I just don't know why they can't do it.
2:24
SPEAKER_04: And the games have been so lopsided, run ruled and everything.
2:28
SPEAKER_04: And then, but then we ended up run ruling South Carolina the other night.
2:32
SPEAKER_04: I couldn't believe it.
2:32
SPEAKER_04: I was I was actually thinking, I was like, you know, we had an 18-game SEC losing streak in baseball.
2:37
SPEAKER_04: I was like, can we get it to 20?
2:38
SPEAKER_04: Can we get it to 20?
2:39
SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be something unheard of.
2:40
SPEAKER_04: And oh, we slipped up and won a game and and then we lose the next one.
2:44
SPEAKER_04: But uh yes, uh it's uh they got a lot to work to do if they want to make the postseason, but uh, but uh if I had to if I had to pick right now the team and the team to beat in the conference, is this LSU.
2:56
SPEAKER_04: So uh we'll see what happens the rest of the season.
2:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, it's funny.
3:00
SPEAKER_03: We'll probably talk a little bit more about the final four and stuff here in a few minutes with our guests, but it's funny.
3:06
SPEAKER_03: I I actually enjoyed the women's final four more than the men's this year, so yeah, man.
3:12
SPEAKER_04: You know, people have been been blasting the people on uh on Twitter about the the controversy that happened after the women's final four, but man, I love it.
3:19
SPEAKER_04: I love trash talking, man.
3:20
SPEAKER_04: That's what that's awesome.
3:21
SPEAKER_04: People say, Oh, it's not sportsmanship.
3:22
SPEAKER_04: No, that's not good sports.
3:24
SPEAKER_04: You know what?
3:24
SPEAKER_04: They're having they're having fun and they won.
3:27
SPEAKER_04: They deserve to win.
3:28
SPEAKER_04: I mean, they play they outplayed them.
3:30
SPEAKER_04: And if the girl was talking smack to Louisville, which it sounds like she was, she had every right to give it back to the LSU players.
3:36
SPEAKER_04: Did it's just uh that's just the way my view on it, and I think it I think it's just enjoyable.
3:41
SPEAKER_04: Uh and look, it got everybody talking about it.
3:43
SPEAKER_04: I think more people are talking about the women's national championship than the men's, which is uh unheard of.
3:48
SPEAKER_04: But uh, but yeah, Kim Mulkey at LSU.
3:51
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna ask our guest about him because about her because I know he is uh from Louisiana and and and knows her, but uh you know, yeah, she she's awesome.
4:00
SPEAKER_04: Second year at LSU and already won a national championship.
4:03
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, they're they're gonna be uh, you know, I was just glad to see Don Staley get beat, man.
4:07
SPEAKER_04: I'm tired of South Carolina women's basketball, man.
4:10
SPEAKER_04: They've had their run at the top and they beat us and in the national championship, and they won it.
4:15
SPEAKER_04: So let somebody else, but it looks like uh LSU's got a powerhouse on the rise down in Baton Rouge.
4:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
4:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm glad to see somebody else win it.
4:24
SPEAKER_03: And um, it's uh it's kind of frustrating.
4:28
SPEAKER_03: I was really hoping with the men's deal that uh UConn's already won it, you know.
4:31
SPEAKER_03: I was hoping somebody else can get it, but um, that's just how it goes sometimes.
4:35
SPEAKER_04: And you know, you know, Brandon Weatherspoon, uh who's the brothers of Nick and Quendary Weatherspoon, he played at Mississippi State, is on the Florida Atlantic team and he's from Canton.
4:43
SPEAKER_04: And I was really hoping that Florida Atlantic was gonna put it off.
4:46
SPEAKER_04: That's who I was really hoping for.
4:47
SPEAKER_04: And I was watching that game, and man, they just I had a feeling the way the score was going at the very end that they're gonna lose at the buzzer, and sure enough, they lost at the buzzer.
4:55
SPEAKER_04: But uh man, what a what a year.
4:57
SPEAKER_04: No, I don't think there was anyone alive.
4:58
SPEAKER_04: If anyone's alive that picked the final four, picked those two teams, and they're they're lying because I mean that's the most craziest brackets I've ever seen in my life.
5:07
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
5:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love it though.
5:09
SPEAKER_03: It it gives you hope for uh for a team like us that right has never really been there.
5:14
SPEAKER_03: I mean, one year we made it, but you know, it it makes you see the parody and hopefully maybe maybe some of the big big teams will stay down and some other some other people can get in.
5:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, Kentucky's been down a while, so right, you know, maybe some of the other other guys will too.
5:29
SPEAKER_04: And uh yeah, we were a five seed that year we met to the final four, and San Diego State was a five seed that played in the championship.
5:35
SPEAKER_04: So that just shows that does give you hope.
5:38
SPEAKER_04: And you know, teams like that's why I'm kind of a little worried about picking LSU and baseball to win that win the national championship this year because that they kind of remind me of Alabama basketball right now because they're just dominating the SEC every every weekend.
5:50
SPEAKER_04: They got studs up and down the lineup.
5:52
SPEAKER_04: And I had a feeling that was gonna happen to Alabama.
5:54
SPEAKER_04: A lot of people picked Alabama to win it all in basketball.
5:56
SPEAKER_04: I had a feeling they're gonna slip up, and and sure enough, they did.
5:59
SPEAKER_04: So you never can.
6:01
SPEAKER_04: Those teams that are highly favored going into tournament play, yeah.
6:05
SPEAKER_04: Once you get into postseason, anybody can be beat.
6:08
SPEAKER_04: So uh I think they proved that this year for that.
6:10
SPEAKER_04: And just like Tennessee baseball last year, they were top dog in in SC baseball last year, and they didn't even make it to Omaha.
6:16
SPEAKER_04: So that's that's why we watch sports, though.
6:19
SPEAKER_04: That's why that's why I saw because you never know.
6:22
SPEAKER_04: You never know.
6:23
SPEAKER_03: That's exactly right.
6:24
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
6:26
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, uh it's another year.
6:28
SPEAKER_03: Masters goes by, another year that that I didn't get tickets from the lottery, lost again.
6:33
SPEAKER_03: So I'm not going.
6:34
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna be watching it from the house again.
6:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I thought I I messaged you.
6:38
SPEAKER_04: I thought Jim Nance was gonna have us do uh Johnny's World from Amy and Corner.
6:42
SPEAKER_04: I was really baking on that happening this year.
6:44
SPEAKER_03: I know you had me going for a minute there.
6:46
SPEAKER_03: You said our guest was gonna be able to get us get us Jim Dance, and I said, Oh man, is he serious?
6:51
SPEAKER_03: It took me a minute.
6:52
SPEAKER_03: And and then you said, Yeah, he's gonna call in from Butler Cabin.
6:54
SPEAKER_03: And I said, uh, this can't be right.
6:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we're gonna do it in Butler Cabin.
7:01
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna present the green jackets, and then we're alive from Johnny's World right here.
7:05
SPEAKER_04: That would be great, though.
7:07
SPEAKER_04: You know, I'd be I'd be down for it would be, it would be.
7:11
SPEAKER_04: Well, you have a master's pick before we get our guests on to talk about the masters.
7:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I've I've kind of been going back and forth about it this year.
7:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, that you've got the live golf guys right that left.
7:23
SPEAKER_03: And so I think this is gonna be uh the first year at Augusta since they left.
7:28
SPEAKER_03: And uh there everybody was acting like it was gonna be a big deal that that some of those guys were gonna you know come in and and uh get treated bad.
7:37
SPEAKER_03: I I don't think any of that's gonna really happen, but uh I do worry a little bit at one of those one of those guys may have a little bit more to prove um being not on the tour and and wanting to come in.
7:49
SPEAKER_03: And I think that uh Cam's Cam Smith, um the Australian that won the British Open last year, I feel like he has a pretty good chance at it because he he's always played pretty well at Augusta.
8:00
SPEAKER_03: And if anybody from the live golf is gonna do it, I think I think it could be him.
8:05
SPEAKER_03: But they're saying that it's gonna be a lot of rain this week and it's gonna be pretty wet conditions and everything.
8:11
SPEAKER_03: And for whatever reason, Cam Smith seems to play better when it's uh like dry and hot and like really hard conditions.
8:19
SPEAKER_03: So he may not be able to pull it out.
8:22
SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna say that Royal McElroy is gonna finally, finally get the green jacket, complete the career grand slam.
8:30
SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be his year.
8:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you you you stole my thunder right there, Wally.
8:35
SPEAKER_04: That's uh that's who I was picking.
8:37
SPEAKER_04: But hey, hey, you know, you know, uh I hate to pick him because it seems like but when we picked football scores this past year, it was always almost to the to the I mean it was almost on the money, like every week we all we were almost there, but but uh so I I hate to do this picking him because I feel like I'm gonna jinx him by picking him.
8:56
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I'm like you, man.
8:57
SPEAKER_04: He he is it's his time, man.
8:59
SPEAKER_04: He he needs uh he needs the green jacket, he's been close, and uh I feel like this is the year he's gonna get it done.
9:05
SPEAKER_04: But again, with me saying that I feel like I put a jinx on him, it's not gonna happen, but uh I'd like to see it happen.
9:11
SPEAKER_04: I think it'd be good.
9:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh, so I listened to a golf podcast uh called No Laying Up, and the guys on there uh like like to pick Rory too, and and they've they've got it called they call it now the Rory block party.
9:24
SPEAKER_03: And so they're everybody's having a party that's picking Rory, and uh they said, you know, the the problem that you worry about, the Rory block block party, somebody's gonna come in with the with a wild dog, it starts biting everybody, or somebody somebody comes in and brings a guest that's not invited, and so that's what they're saying.
9:40
SPEAKER_03: Uh is could potentially happen with some of the uh these other guys.
9:43
SPEAKER_03: But but I I think I think if you and I are both on the same page, we didn't talk before this.
9:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, I I think the Rory block party is happening this year.
9:52
SPEAKER_03: I think I think so too.
9:54
SPEAKER_03: Just given our history with with the picks in the football season, it's it's destined to happen.
9:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, uh, we're here for it if it happens, man.
10:02
SPEAKER_04: That would that would be awesome.
10:03
SPEAKER_04: And uh maybe maybe if if uh he he wins, he can give us a shout out, you know.
10:08
SPEAKER_04: So those guys picked me.
10:10
SPEAKER_04: They picked all those football scores correctly.
10:11
SPEAKER_04: They picked us, man.
10:12
SPEAKER_04: Then Vegas will come back.
10:13
SPEAKER_04: We'll be we'll be uh booked in the Vegas uh gambling halls in Vegas, and then people will come to us for scores.
10:19
SPEAKER_04: That'd be Johnny's world, Johnny's World picks, yeah.
10:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, obviously, I hope that happens, but the biggest thing I really want is I just want it to be a good uh down the stretch, you know, Sunday, uh coming down to the back nine.
10:35
SPEAKER_03: Uh, somebody's gonna come in and win it, make some birdies, make make something happen at the end, make it exciting.
10:41
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to see some kind of runaway.
10:43
SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, somebody's in the lead by six on Saturday, and they just kind of come in there and just hold the lead.
10:49
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I'm a little worried Scotty Scheffler may do that.
10:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh and I I like Scotty, um, but I just you know, I want to see Rory win it.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, that'd be more exciting for me, at least.
11:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Scotty uh he he kind of ran away with it last year, and I could definitely see him uh in contention at the end and possibly winning it back to back years.
11:12
SPEAKER_04: I feel like he's a big name coming up in golf.
11:15
SPEAKER_04: And uh, but but uh like I said, I just hope it's like you said too, uh uh on Sunday that we got a good competition going on, it would be more interesting than one guy running away with it.
11:26
SPEAKER_04: It's always fun seeing the back nine and Augusta on Sunday and the roars.
11:30
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
11:31
SPEAKER_03: Maybe we could.
11:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, even if Phil could make a little run or yeah, Tiger, I doubt it, but uh it'd be pretty cool to see something something like that too.
11:40
SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
11:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I saw Tiger and uh pictures of Tiger and Fred Couples today, so that was pretty pretty cool seeing that.
11:47
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
11:47
SPEAKER_03: Yep, definitely is so well.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: Johnny, I think our guest is about to join us, so that's probably a good place to pause for a minute here.
11:56
SPEAKER_03: So um so y'all, y'all stay tuned for just a minute.
12:00
SPEAKER_04: Okay, we're we're back with Johnny's World.
12:02
SPEAKER_04: We got our guest who just joined us, and uh we we've had him on the show before, and he's uh a great guy.
12:08
SPEAKER_04: Y'all might uh remember him from uh from TV.
12:11
SPEAKER_04: If you've watched uh plenty of uh sports games, he's probably been been calling it on TV.
12:15
SPEAKER_04: He's he's seen it all, and we're so thrilled to have him back on to talk about Final Four of the Masters.
12:20
SPEAKER_04: So, Timmy B, welcome to Johnny's World again.
12:22
SPEAKER_04: Tim Brenda and Mr.
12:25
SPEAKER_01: Packer, how are you?
12:26
SPEAKER_01: Good to see you.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Doing well.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Doing well.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
12:30
SPEAKER_01: How many years ago was that uh evening with the Mannings?
12:34
SPEAKER_01: Was that like uh 11, maybe 12 years ago?
12:36
SPEAKER_01: When was that?
12:38
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know my daughter Tara was at Ole Miss at the time.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: So that would have been like probably 10 or 11.
12:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the last one was in 2010, I believe.
12:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was the evening.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was uh that was the last time Cooper Manning actually had to play second on the billing to me.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's become like this bigger than life star of just about everything, uh, including Fox.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: I think he works for everybody.
13:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, if if you work for Omaha Productions, you're basically working for everybody, right?
13:12
SPEAKER_01: Right.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: That's what you're doing.
13:13
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, uh that was a fun night, and uh a lot of time has passed since then.
13:19
SPEAKER_01: I've got four brand, I've got four grandchildren I didn't have then.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: It's great to be with you guys.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: It's great to be with both of you.
13:30
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, and congrats on your uh contract extension with Fox.
13:33
SPEAKER_04: Big news right there came out today.
13:35
SPEAKER_04: So I know you're happy.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you got me on breaking news Brando Day.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: Breaking news Brando Day.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Well, as uh as uh you know the 12th man on uh every NBA roster always likes to say, that means I've got a new team photo to make, you know.
13:57
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
13:59
SPEAKER_01: If you make the team photos, you're um you're doing something right.
14:03
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I'm very excited about it.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: And um John, at this stage of my career, uh I've I'm very realistic about uh where I am and what I want to do.
14:15
SPEAKER_01: And uh I live a lot more now in the moment than I ever did before.
14:20
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of people in our business, especially, get caught up uh as dreamers and and thinking about our goals.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: And I was really great at long-range goals.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't be here uh at this stage of my life having done all that I've done if I hadn't been a dreamer and I hadn't had a plan.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: But when you you get to uh uh you know uh the 17th anniversary of no, excuse me, the uh 19th anniversary.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, wait a minute.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: No, it is the 18th anniversary.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, math.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: It was always a killer for me.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when you get to the 18th anniversary of your 49th birthday, which is what I just had, uh, you know, you begin to really relish the moment a lot more and and enjoy and and find a way to be grateful for what you have uh and the opportunities you still have to do what it is you love to do.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: And uh so uh having a new deal like this at this stage of my life, not having to worry about a contract again until I'm 70, uh is great.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: And by the time I get to that age, uh, you know, I I who knows.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: I I I may still feel like doing it.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: And I hope they and if I do, I hope they still feel like having me on to do it.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh but I don't I'm not worried about it until I get there.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, I I'm not I'm not concerning myself with anything except today and tomorrow and the people I love and the things that I love to do.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: It's a whole different thing, you know, when you get to this stage of your life and you have grandchildren between the ages of two and six, that's what motivates you.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, uh they're like human mulligans of your own kids that maybe you didn't get to see as much as you would have liked when you were young.
16:09
SPEAKER_01: And they look exactly like my daughters, and they sound and act just like my daughters did.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, so I want to be around them as much as I can.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't I don't worry about what I'm not doing in television.
16:24
SPEAKER_01: You know, these next four months I'm playing golf and chasing grandbabies, and that's the way I want it.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: So uh it's a great time to be at this stage of your life for me, you know.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, it really is.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm no longer uh chasing, I'm just doing.
16:43
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of times people uh in our business and in life spend most of their lives chasing after things and not enjoying the things that they actually are doing.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: And and it just goes by so fast, you know, it really does.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: And uh, but I'm so thankful to be working in a place that appreciates what I do, feels that I've still got my fastball and my breaking pitch, and that I can get us out of jams and and and bases loaded, one out situations.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh and and I and I love and I love working with Spencer and I love working with all the guys I work with in basketball.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not worried about not doing anything else.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, if no one wants me to call, if no one wants me to call golf, that's fine.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: I'll watch it and I'll play it just like I did today.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't play I didn't play particularly well today, but I was celebrating and uh and I and I did enjoy the the camaraderie of the guys I was with.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: But it's just um it's just a great time uh in my life to be where I am and uh and to feel the way I feel.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: And uh uh Terry and I just got back from the Final Four.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: We had a great time.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm still as energetic and enthusiastic as about uh about what I do and what what we're gonna do uh as I ever have been.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: And I just hope that um you know that I can continue to do this for as long as I can.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm really I'm really pumped to know that at the end of this period, this three-year period, that I will have been in the business for 41 years uh at the network level.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, I started at ESPN in 1985, and uh by the time this contract comes to an end, it'll be 2026.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: So that'll be uh five decades worth of work at the national level, 41 years overall, and and that's kind of a cool thing.
18:42
SPEAKER_04: Well, we hope you we hope you keep it up because I tell everybody I mean it, you're you're the best in the business, man.
18:47
SPEAKER_04: We enjoy it.
18:49
SPEAKER_04: You calling the game.
18:50
SPEAKER_04: So uh thank you.
18:52
SPEAKER_04: Talking about the final four, we want to get into that.
18:55
SPEAKER_04: Tell us a little bit about your badness in the final four.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, the best team clearly won it.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they dominated everybody they played.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: They won by double digits in every game they played.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: I had Connecticut a bunch this year.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: If you were watching uh any of my games on FS1 or Fox, you know that I called about a half dozen Connecticut games.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: So I saw them when they were winning their first 14 in a row, had them twice during that period.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: I had them uh two more times when they were in the middle of a uh funk where they lost six of eight games and dropped completely out of the top 25.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: They had gotten all the way up to number two when they were 14-0 and then dropped completely out of the top 25.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: But once uh they figured out their circumstances, figured out the situation, about the scouting report and what teams in the Big East had learned about defending them, uh Danny Hurley made the appropriate changes.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: And what he basically did was he got Tristan Newton uh out of the the point guard position and he moved uh Jackson, Aaron Jackson into that position as point forward.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: That was his team captain.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: And uh he and uh Adama Sinogo kind of took the leadership roles in the the in the uh locker room, and they've got such talent, such great talent, really two of everything.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh they didn't really have to have a pure point guard.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: They all five guys on the floor could really handle the ball really well, and um they just did it by committee, and they became a much more difficult team to guard as a as a result of that.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: And uh that's how they got to the Final Four.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: And uh once they got there, they dominated again.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: So they they really had no peer in this particular tournament.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: People people might say, yeah, well, you know, so-and-so got knocked out.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: UCLA was in their bracket, they got knocked out.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: I I thought UCLA might win that bracket uh because they played such great defense, but UCLA lost a couple of their great offensive players.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: You had to score to be able to compete with Connecticut because you you weren't gonna stop them from getting to say 70 points on a bad night, and they didn't shoot it particularly well last night.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they they he was right.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: Dan was right at that time.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: They should have been ahead by 20.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: They were ahead by 12.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: San Diego State, you knew would make a run, and they did, they cut it to five.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: But I never, I don't know about you, but I never got the feeling that they were gonna have a really, a really good chance to win that game.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: At any point, I never really felt like they were good enough to score enough to uh get a lead and and pull away.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, congratulations to them.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: I thought that the tournament as a whole was just off the charts good.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: You know, 16 beating a one, fifteen beating a two.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Just, you know, the you you looked at Alabama's uh bracket, which of course is is uh where Connecticut came.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Came from and and eventually when you think about it, they they they were able to win the national championship.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: But their side of the bracket, Alabama's side, uh where where San Diego State came from opened up like the Red Sea.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it really did.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: But you see what happens when matchups, uh when matchups occur that are difficult, and San Diego State was a difficult team for Alabama to match up with, you saw what happened.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what makes college basketball so much fun.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's really every yeah, it's uh it's about matchups.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: It's not about people we spend so much time talking about seedings.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: In the end, once you get the once you get the 68 teams, it's not about seedings at all.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: It's about matchups.
22:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's uh me and Brandon were talking a little bit about this before.
22:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh if if someone out there says that they picked uh final four or picked it their line, I mean that's this this it seems like this year's the craziest brackets as far as uh making picks and stuff like that.
23:04
SPEAKER_04: I know I got knocked out early.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: I had I had a frontal lobotomy on my first bracket.
23:11
SPEAKER_01: And then I did what all meteorologists uh do, you know, they revise their five-day forecast.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's just that's just terrible.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I sportscasters don't get to revive anything, you know.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: Once I say said team is gonna win, yeah, hell, I mean, I'm on the hook.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: You know, if a meteorologist says, you know, you can expect that uh F4 to come in tomorrow.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: No, we're gonna revise that forecast.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: So I revised mine when we got to 16.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: No, I went over four in that.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: So what are you gonna do?
23:46
SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna do?
23:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, uh, well, well, I want to talk real quick, but I do want to talk about the masters before we get into the masters.
23:54
SPEAKER_04: Let's talk a little bit about uh I know you're from Louisiana, and I know I know Kim Walkie is the big name right now in the women's side, and they just kind of dominated uh this year.
24:04
SPEAKER_04: And what do you think?
24:05
SPEAKER_04: I feel like they've kind of they're giving Don Stale and South Carolina a run for their money in the SEC right now.
24:10
SPEAKER_04: What are your thoughts on Kim Walkie?
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, listen, I've known Kim since she played for Leon Barmore uh at Louisiana Tech.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm a big I love basketball in all forms, not just men's basketball, but basketball in all forms.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: And uh I've done my fair share or did my fair share of uh Yukon Tennessee women's games when Gino and Pat both had it going big time.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh and and their teams, I mean, they're they're the Mount Rushmores of the women's game, yes.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: But let me say this, um, and you probably know this because of where you're from.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: One of the things that always sort of pissed me off about the women's game was all of a sudden when Connecticut came along, and uh some of my friends and and colleagues in Bristol uh in and around the uh Hartford Stores area saw what was going on with Gino.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: You would have you would have thought, listening to some of those guys, that women's basketball was actually founded and created in Stores, Connecticut, like it had never been played before.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: All the great teams, like uh Barmore's teams uh that Kim was part of uh at Louisiana Tech, all those great teams that you saw in the SEC Wild Pats teams were great, you know, and uh and the Anders' team at Georgia, Joe Champi's team at Auburn, uh uh the great coach that did such a super job at Mississippi State, whose name escapes me now that was just there.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that should have won a national title and unfortunately didn't.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh and that guy that that did such a remarkable job at Arkansas.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: Those those are all great programs, great programs that were always thrown under the bus because of Gino Oriema's dominance and and Pat's dominance.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: Uh my goodness, how many?
26:11
SPEAKER_01: I know you remember Delta State.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: How how how dominant a program Delta State was back in the day?
26:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, maybe you didn't see them, but I know you probably have family members that did.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: Those were great basketball teams.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Our Lady of Immaculata, Google them and find out how dominant they were 50 years ago.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh, a private parochial Catholic school that pretty much funded itself so they could participate at the Division I level.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And they were, you know, basically uh a school of young girls that every teacher was a nun, you know, back in 71 and 72.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: Phil Martelli's uh wife, the old coach at St.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Joseph's and assistant now to Juwan Howard at Michigan, his wife played on that team, our Lady of Immaculata.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, uh I love the women's game.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: I that's my point, and I know a good bit about its history.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, what happened in that Iowa LSU game, 102 points scored by Kim's team, uh, was incredible for the women's game.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: It was a transformational game, as was the the game that preceded it between Iowa um and South Carolina that led up to that game, where you know uh she the Clark girl went for 41.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: I mean, she was a combination in that game.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: She was a combination of Steph Curry shooting it and Larry Bird and Larry Bird or Pistol Pete Maravich passing it.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, she she is the goods, man.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, she is one remarkable talent.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh, as for as for what happened with Angel Reese and uh the controversy over that, I think uh, you know, look, um trash talking and that kind of uh intimidation that takes place on the floor has happened in the men's game for years.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: Very few, if any uh any people ever said anything about it.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, just because they're young ladies, um we shouldn't expect any different.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: They're competitors, uh they're trying to get in each other's heads.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh she probably went a little bit over the top when she walked towards her and kept doing that.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh I I'm pretty sure that Kim, uh knowing Kim as I do, will probably let her know that look, it's great to uh you know be exuberant, it's great to play with the energy and passion.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: And I'll allow you uh a pretty long leash to be yourself, you know that.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: But think a little bit about your teammates when you're doing that, because we'd be spending a lot more of the day after that game talking about how how they performed, how they played out of their minds.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Instead, we're talking about you know, this and put a ring on my all that.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, which sort of takes away from the high level and quality of the of the game itself.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I think for women's basketball, uh, to have that a little bit of controversy is great because uh people are talking about it.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people are talking about it.
29:16
SPEAKER_01: They wouldn't be otherwise, probably.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh the media in general doesn't like talking about uh collegiate athletics anymore at all.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: And they especially don't like talking about women's collegiate athletics at all unless something controversial or negative happens that they can talk about.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh and this was just enough to get people to talk about it all day yesterday.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: I can't remember a time when a men's national championship on the day of the game was talked about less than yesterday.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: And that's a byproduct of what happened in the women's game.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh as for uh Kim, she's an amazing coach, just like she was an amazing player.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: She she was a champion in high school, a champion in college, a gold medal-winning champion for the United States team in 1984.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: There's there's really nothing she can't do and do at the highest possible level.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: So uh with what they've got going with NIL and the transfer portal, I mean, she got nine newbies this year.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm I'm sure a bunch of those newbies are gonna come back, but the ones that don't are gonna be replaced by even greater players.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: So by the time she's done, she might have as many as Gino or Pat.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: She she might.
30:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think you're right.
30:38
SPEAKER_04: Uh and uh I think that I like the rivalry right now with with her and and Dawn Staley in South Carolina, and that's that's uh yeah, that's good for the game.
30:47
SPEAKER_04: It is, really is.
30:49
SPEAKER_04: Well, uh, I do want to ask you about um, I know uh BW my co's brandy had to go, but we'll keep talking.
30:56
SPEAKER_04: I know he wanted to ask this, and I do, I do too, about uh about Jim Nance, about your friendship with Jim Nance and and um and why he why he's calling it quits, you know, uh as far as why he's calling it quits in basketball.
31:08
SPEAKER_04: I guess he's still doing football in the master.
31:11
SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of golf.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: Like like like tons of golf.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: I think it's uh uh he and I spoke his his schedule is is off the charts and has been for a long time.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: And he works around the calendar.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, uh there was a time when uh, and you know this because you've been following me for a long, long time, right?
31:33
SPEAKER_01: Um I was doing in the mid-90s, I was doing um I was doing CBS, Raycom Sports, and the Tim Brando radio show uh in the 2000s, but in the mid-90s, I was doing um Raycom and Jefferson Pilot Sports when I wasn't doing CBS.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: I was doing CBS and I was doing uh the Atlanta Braves and the Atlanta Hawks for Sports South, which was owned at that time by Ted Turner.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: And uh I didn't have any days off.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was working round the clock and and uh through the calendar year.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: And you know, I let me tell you, John, uh that's not that that takes a lot out of you.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: You you don't think about it at the time because you're young.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Probably then I was I was in my um uh mid to late 30s, turning 40, going from say 40 to 45, beginning to push 50.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: And I was working literally, um, you know, obviously the main gig was with CBS, but I was also doing a lot of work for Raycom and Jefferson Pilot Sports, all those SEC tournaments that I did.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh all of the college football I did when I, but you know, before I went to CBS and after I left ESPN was with them.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh and then come baseball season, there I am working with Ernie Johnson Sr.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: for 50 games.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, you put it all together, and that's there's there's very little time for for much else in your life, right?
33:14
SPEAKER_01: And uh all sportscasters at some point in their lives do that, and then as you get older and you begin to uh see you know what's happening on your plate and how you need to attack your plate moving forward, and you want to continue to be in a high-profile position, you you realize you got to give a few things up.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Uh when I left CBS abruptly and went to Fox, I've been primarily in studio for CBS.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: I did a few games, but not every week.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: When you're doing college football every week and you're having to meet with coordinators and players and be really ready to do your job, you need to get there on Thursday and and meet with the players and coaches of the home team and and then do some Zoom calls or conference calls with the people that uh uh make up the road team.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: And to do that and to do the kind of research that you need to be prepared to do your best, you can't you really can't be doing three hours of radio every day and still have a life, you know.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: So I gave up the radio show after my first season of doing Fox College football play by play.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: It was just too much to ask.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: And um I had done the radio for 15 years, and if my job in network television had remained primarily in the studio, uh I might have lasted a little bit longer.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: But I it was changing and I wanted it to change.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: I I wanted to be in the booth, so I gave up the radio and uh and I never really thought about doing anything again, never, never really wanted to do baseball again.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: I had grown disenchanted with it after working for, you know, I thought the best organization in baseball at that time, the Bravos.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, why go there?
35:05
SPEAKER_01: And CBS was offering me a new contract and one that uh could keep me from having to work around the calendar year, that I could work at what I really wanted to work at.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: So uh those choices I made on my own, and I'm glad that I did.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, it it's kept me fresher, it's kept me energized and passionate about the games that I do call.
35:30
SPEAKER_01: And I think that at this stage of my life is really what I want to do.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: I want to feel like every time I go on the air, I'm fresh, I'm vibrant, I'm prepared, and uh, you know, I I don't know that I would be if I worked 12 months out of the year.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, I really I did that a long time, and uh I I look back on it now and I say to myself, you know, I I thought I was really good then.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: And the facts were and are, in my opinion, that I could not be at my best because I was working so much.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: So in the end, you you you you're not giving all that you need to give to all of the different jobs you have when you have too many.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you can do that when you have uh the one you want.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: And and Fox has enabled me to do that.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: And uh and I'm really, really pleased about it because uh after college football and college basketball is over, if if Fox needs me to substitute on an NFL game, and they've done that many times in the uh nine years that I've already worked there, but uh if they want me to do some after college season is over, I'd be happy to do it.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: But for the most part, I'm I'm a college football and college basketball guy.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: Those are my passions, and um the reality is that's what I want to work.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh the others, I'll work and I'll enjoy doing it, but those two, college football and college basketball, uh, you know, I just right now can't see myself not doing those two.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh I just love I love them so much.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: It it uh doesn't, you know, my work doesn't define who I am, but it certainly influences the perceptions people have of who I am, and and I love doing it.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, my kids love watching me, my grandkids love watching me, and that that really uh energizes me in a lot of ways.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: So I'm thrilled that uh uh that's where I am and that's what I'm gonna be doing.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: To get specific about Jim, I think the thing in talking with him uh he's about three years younger than me.
37:43
SPEAKER_01: And uh he's had a career for the ages.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: I sort of define my uh my career as a uh as a really solid uh working man's broadcaster, you know, like a working actor, a guy that seemingly is always there, his voice, his voice has always been a part of your sports uh uh soundtrack.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: You know, if you're if you're my age or uh or down into your say early 30s, uh that's a lot of generations.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's that's baby, that's baby boomer, that's uh Gen X, that's Gen uh Gen Y, Gen Z, Millennials.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, that's a lot of generations.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that I got them in the proper order, but it's a lot of generations.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: And and that's cool to me.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: Um that's sort of what I wanted to accomplish with my career.
38:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh would I have loved to have done you know Super Bowls or you know, uh national championships and Division I college football and and basketball, sure, sure, but but not everyone gets those opportunities.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: Timing is a lot.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: I've had more great timing than than bad timing, but um but I'm very, very pleased with all that's happened in my life and in my career.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I think that when you when you keep your head on straight and you've had a good domestic life, uh a happy marriage of 45 years with two great kids and four great uh kids that are my grandchildren, that's a lot to be thankful for.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh Jim has just been off the charts.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh everything he touched turned to gold.
39:31
SPEAKER_01: He got the CBS the same year I got the ESPN.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: He was in position to take over for Brett Musberger in 1990 when he was, gosh, probably not even, I don't know if he was 30 yet.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: He might have been 32 or 33 at the time, because I think he's about 63 or 64 now.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: So he had to be just cracking the 30 barrier right around that time.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he never thought he'd last 32 years doing this, but he did.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh but but you know, he did have a uh uh a marriage that didn't make it.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: He had a uh uh he has a daughter that's uh uh an adult, and um and a separation was tough uh that led to divorce, and then he remarried, and now he's got a couple of young kids that need their dads a little bit more than maybe he was needed uh by his older daughter from a previous marriage 15 years ago or more.
40:28
SPEAKER_01: But uh being home for him now with those kids is very important to him, and I and I certainly understand that.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh I think that figured into the equation for him as it related to basketball, because the tournament uh and basketball in general, he's been doing about a month's worth of college basketball.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, he he didn't do games at the beginning of the year.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: Very rarely, if ever, did he do uh early games.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: When I was at CBS, I'd be working with even Billy Packer a lot of times because uh Jim was busy doing some golf, you know, in November or December.
41:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh so I think for him, getting this pocket of time from the end of football to the start of the golf season is probably very important for him to be with his family and to catch his breath, to recharge his battery so he can milk the most out of the rest of his career.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: He's uh like I said, I think he's like three, maybe four years younger than me.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: So he would be 63 or 64, uh because I just turned 67.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, he's this isn't like, and I and I noticed him saying this um on the air.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: I didn't bring it up to him when we spoke via text uh the last few weeks, but he's a few times he's had to fend off questions about, well, are you getting close to retiring?
41:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, because anything you give up, anytime you give up something that big doing the NCA championship, people think, oh well, maybe maybe he sees himself slowing down.
42:07
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't see himself slowing down any more than I do, see myself slowing down.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: I I am as pumped up about uh toe meeting leather in September and the many changes that are on the forefront of college football.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: Shoot, uh John, I I can't wait to get started.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: But I do really value this time that I have right now and all the way through the uh end of August to get ready for it and to be energized at the appropriate time.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh I I don't think there's any uh chance of Jim walking away from the NFL booth or the 18th tower uh anytime soon.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: And I feel the same way about what I'm doing now.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: I um somebody said to me today, an old friend of mine I used to work with in TV in Baton Rouge said, Well, will this be the last, you know, your contract?
43:01
SPEAKER_01: I said, I have no idea.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: I said, I have been told though, that uh you can you can be great at what you do, but if you uh outstay your welcome, uh be it be advised that uh you may not want to go, but someone may ask you to go.
43:21
SPEAKER_01: You know, it that that can happen.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: So uh after three years, and uh I get to uh the age of 70, uh there'll be another you know, fork in the road, so to speak.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: And uh it'll be uh a decision that will, you know, should be mine.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: I hope it's mine, but I might get a little help along the way in determining uh just how much of the decision is going to be mine.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: I I know this that having Fox uh do what they did for me.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: Um uh our basketball season had just ended, my contract had just become Finished and they didn't waste any time getting to me and saying, you know what, we want you around.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: We want you to be a Fox guy for a number of more years.
44:11
SPEAKER_01: And that's um that's really pleasing because that doesn't happen a lot today, as you know, uh for anyone in any vocation.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Guys my age, usually, uh, that are very good at what they do are being asked because of the either the time put in or the amount of money you're making, uh, they're they're asking you to take that severance package so they can hire somebody to do it uh for uh less money.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: And um that's just a fact of life.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, we all have to come to terms with that.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Um so in that respect, John, I've been very, very lucky.
44:45
SPEAKER_01: And I know uh uh from from the many years that I've known Jim, and he was a warm and welcoming uh colleague and leader really for our team at CBS.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh I know he feels the same way.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: We're we're sort of cut from the same cloth.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: We're we're both storytellers, passionate dreamers, and uh and really want to give our best to the time that we have left to milk the most out of what's left of our careers.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: His has been an epic career.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Mine has been a really fruitful and very good career.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh I do think that um I do think that uh being the so-called working actor, this the guy that's always there, yeah, uh has its has its upside.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: It does.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: Um I told I told Fox when they hired me almost 10 years ago in uh spring of 2014, I said uh they said to me, what do you see your your role be uh uh here being?
45:48
SPEAKER_01: How do you how do you see your role developing here?
45:51
SPEAKER_01: And I told them, I said, uh, you know, I've been working with Vern Lindquist for a number of years, and I've been trying to kick down the door to get in that booth for CBS for college football, and he's not going anywhere, you know, and uh and and and he shouldn't because he's Vern.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: He's got great pipes, he's very likable.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, Vern was never quote unquote a number one guy, he was always sort of a number two guy, you know, uh whether it would whether it was the NFL or or uh basketball, whatever he was covering.
46:24
SPEAKER_01: But Vern was so good that uh if if the big guy couldn't do the game, you wanted Vern to do it because you knew Vern was good enough and had the chops to do it.
46:37
SPEAKER_01: And he had a long-lasting, enduring career.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: And uh he became in the short term someone I aspired to become.
46:46
SPEAKER_01: And so I told Fox, I said, let me be your Vern.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: I uh, you know, a guy that's uh a veteran guy that's been around that knows uh the sports he covers very well, is has uh uh great long and short-term memory, photographic memory in some cases.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: And uh I can help um uh I can help your portfolio as you grow your portfolio for college football and and college basketball.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: Hope hopefully I can help help you grow it and and bring a voice that people know when they're listening and watching your network.
47:21
SPEAKER_01: And uh that was my story then.
47:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm sticking to it.
47:26
SPEAKER_01: They bought it at the time, and uh so I'm I'm you know, being being the next Vern Lynquist was not a bad idea to me.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: It really wasn't.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: And uh he stayed a long, long time and had an incredible long-term career.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: And uh whether he was at ABC or at CBS, spent some time at Turner 2.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, he he did more big events than I've done, but I've been around and in strong roles in the studio for a lot of big events as well as in the booth.
48:02
SPEAKER_01: So uh I sort of fashioned myself as as being in what his role was 15 to 20 years ago.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of where I see myself now.
48:12
SPEAKER_04: Well, I have to say, you know, you you mentioned uh like you know, generational people uh watching sports, listening, and you hear that voice, and you're one of them.
48:22
SPEAKER_04: When you hear your voice, you you know, you know who it is, and you know the game, and it and it takes you back, it kind of takes you as as us.
48:30
SPEAKER_04: I'm 42, as I'm getting older, it takes you back to your childhood to listening.
48:35
SPEAKER_04: Right.
48:35
SPEAKER_04: And and I think that's I think that's awesome.
48:38
SPEAKER_04: I think it's you you kind of you feel like when you hear someone like yourself or Vern or Jim or something like that, you'll feel like okay, I'm I'm settled in this game, they're part of my family, you know, because you can hear it.
48:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's cool.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: Right.
48:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, uh he is uh, you know, Jim's sign-off last night was just brilliant.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: You know, thank you for being my friend.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and and I just thought, yeah, you know, friendly voices, uh guys that uh exude positive energy.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, Jim always did that, Vern always did that.
49:15
SPEAKER_01: I thought Dick Inberg was great at that too.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: I love Dick when he was on the air uh for all those years.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: I I I looked up to him like I looked up to Kurt Gowdy.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: These were all guys that sounded like people that if you weren't watching them on television, you'd like to be in a bar having a beer with them.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
49:34
SPEAKER_01: And uh Ernie Johnson Sr., by the way, when I did those Braves games in Atlanta in the mid-90s, in the mid-90s, 94, 95, 96, that was right between uh my time at ESPN and my time at CBS.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: Getting to work with Ernie Sr.
49:50
SPEAKER_01: was a blast because he was a humble guy.
49:54
SPEAKER_01: He was held in great, great esteem by his uh colleagues on TBS that he had worked with all those years.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh, whether it was Don Sutton or Skip Carey or uh the professor Pete Van Wirren, they all looked up to the big guy.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: They called him the big guy, Ernie Sr.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: And so here I am working about 50 games with him regionally on Sports South because his son, Ernie Jr., who's my age, his career was taken off so much at that time, uh, TBS couldn't couldn't let him do the games on Sport South because he was too busy either hosting the NBA or doing some golf or doing some uh uh they had the Turner games, you know, the Goodwill games for a period of time.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh Ernie was just too busy.
50:43
SPEAKER_01: So I used to joke with uh Ernie Jr.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: I'd say, you know, I was uh I was the Johnson uh child out of wedlock.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: I get to be I get to be Ernie's bastard child when you're not there.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: Because he and I are the same age, Ernie Jr.
51:03
SPEAKER_01: and I.
51:03
SPEAKER_01: And he laughed about that.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: But I learned from being in his midst, being in Ernie Sr.'s midst, uh, how if you're just confident in what you do, and uh if you're engaging and enjoyable to be around, people will come to you.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to you you don't have to work that hard at going to them, they'll come to you and and they will engage you because they hear your voice and they think of somebody they really like.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: Right um, and I think that uh at the time that I was there, which was when I was 38, 39, 40 years of age, you know, right in that neighborhood, uh, and had gone through uh, you know, a good bit at ESPN and in leaving ESPN, um moving home to build my house, staying with ESPN for four more years, but there was just a little bit of a rub because I was leaving Connecticut.
52:01
SPEAKER_01: They didn't want me to do that.
52:03
SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, John, if I hadn't done that, if I had stayed up there, uh very good chance that I could have been doing the games Chris Fowler's doing now.
52:12
SPEAKER_01: If I had just stayed in Connecticut, continued to do College Game Day.
52:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, I pulled I pulled myself off that show because I wanted to, I was in a hurry.
52:22
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to do games, I wanted to get out of the studio.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I never, as much fun as we had, as many great accomplishments as we had, I was always uh uneasy.
52:35
SPEAKER_01: I was like, yeah, but I want to do games.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I want to do games.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: I I I don't think that I appreciated what that role was doing for me, how much better of a broadcaster it was making me.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, all I wanted to do was just get out and go do games.
52:51
SPEAKER_01: And when you're doing that when you're young, I think sometimes you you you miss out on on just how much impact you're having in this particular role, the visibility factor.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: Part of why people uh felt like they knew me when they heard me was because they also saw me, you know, more than they would normally see most play-by-play guys.
53:13
SPEAKER_01: So being on camera as much as I was in my youth on national television would pay big dividends for me down the road.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: I didn't fully appreciate that at the time.
53:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, I just didn't.
53:27
SPEAKER_01: Um by the way, I do not have any regrets about leaving uh ESPN.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't have any regrets about uh leaving them even after they hired me to do games when I moved back home to Shreveport.
53:41
SPEAKER_01: I I found out in the four years that I lived up there how much being at home in your real home, your comfortable home, and how much it meant for my wife to feel uh really cool and confident when I was gone.
53:58
SPEAKER_01: And she wasn't gonna feel that way if we stayed in Connecticut.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: I needed to get her uh uh back to her Italian mom here in Shreveport, Louisiana, so that when I went on the road, uh she was excited to be uh away from me and near her near her family and friends that she grew up with.
54:18
SPEAKER_01: And it made it made us prosper uh a lot more because of that.
54:23
SPEAKER_01: Um had had we stayed in Connecticut, uh, I truly believe at some point uh we might not have made it, or our our marriage may not have made it.
54:34
SPEAKER_01: And uh Kurt Gowdy was um a great mentor, and he told me years earlier that as you begin to grow in your career, you need to understand that uh if you want it all, it can't just be about you, it's got to be about your family too.
54:51
SPEAKER_01: And uh he said, You want it all, I can tell.
54:53
SPEAKER_01: I said, Yeah, I sure do.
54:55
SPEAKER_01: He said, Well, put put your wife where she's happy, because uh the only way you're gonna be happy is if you're doing what you want to do.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: And you're telling me you want to be at games.
55:05
SPEAKER_01: Well, being at games means for a good part of your life, she won't see you at home.
55:11
SPEAKER_01: So her home better be where she's happy because for a few months, all you're gonna be doing is coming home to get new laundry.
55:20
SPEAKER_01: And uh, and he was right, you know, he was absolutely right, and um so it all worked out for us.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: It it really, really did.
55:30
SPEAKER_04: Well, Tim, let's uh let's transition over and talk a little about me and uh Brandon before he uh before we got on.
55:36
SPEAKER_04: When we between the two of us, we made some master picks.
55:38
SPEAKER_04: I want to get your take on this year's masters and and uh and what you think of the field.
55:43
SPEAKER_04: And I mean it's an exciting time.
55:44
SPEAKER_04: Masters week, we look forward to every year, and and it's here.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, I love the masters field.
55:50
SPEAKER_01: I am I I really hope, uh, and I'm not big on live golf.
55:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm not.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: Now, I was giving it a chance.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: I really did give it a chance.
55:59
SPEAKER_01: You know how much I uh the the one sport that I wish I had called more uh than I have is golf.
56:07
SPEAKER_01: But golf is a tough roster to make.
56:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, most of the people, you usually about the only real broadcasters that they have that that that's their job is broadcasting, not play is the guy on the 18th tower, you know, whether it's Nance or Buck when we had the US Open uh or Dan Hicks on NBC, most of the other guys are either former players or teachers or current teachers or uh even golf architects, okay?
56:39
SPEAKER_01: Not other broadcasters.
56:41
SPEAKER_01: You just don't see many.
56:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh I did the masters.com for four years.
56:46
SPEAKER_01: If there's one thing I miss not being at CBS, it's not really doing the NCA tournament, it's getting to do the Masters uh all that week at Augusta National and to do either um Amen Corner or to do um the feature groups on digital, you know, on uh masters.com.
57:06
SPEAKER_01: Man, I love that.
57:07
SPEAKER_01: That was so much fun.
57:08
SPEAKER_01: I worked with Scotty McCarron on it, it was great.
57:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, I also did the tower on a couple of uh seniors events that we had on CDS at that time, and uh I I thoroughly enjoyed it.
57:21
SPEAKER_01: That's what I miss is getting to go to Augusta because that's a special, special place.
57:27
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, I I would love to see, even though I've tried to watch live golf and I can't, my problem with trying to get engaged into live golf is that these guys are mega millionaires, and regardless of whether Phil uh shoots 74 or Sergio shoots 78, they got guaranteed money.
57:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, I'm not compelled to really watch that.
57:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'd rather watch the Canadian tour or the Corn Ferry Tour where guys are trying to make the cut just to find out if they can take a flight to their next event or they're gonna have to get a rental car and drive.
58:08
SPEAKER_01: You know, I I want something to be on the line when I'm watching golf.
58:12
SPEAKER_01: Now, when I'm watching the Masters, I will say this the Live Tour guys, uh, I'm rooting for at least one or two to be on the leaderboard by the weekend, just so we can have some rivalry going on.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: You know, some I mean, can you imagine uh you know the backrooms at Augusta, if uh Phil or any of his colleagues that are on Live, some of whom have already won a lot of major championships, like a Brooks Kepka, by example.
58:49
SPEAKER_01: If any of those guys happen to be on the leaderboard, the rivalry situation that we might have uh late on Saturday or Sunday could be really fun to watch.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it really could.
59:03
SPEAKER_01: I I I hope that that's part of it.
59:05
SPEAKER_01: As for my favorites, uh, I think right now the guy that impresses me most with his uh a manageable swing off the T.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh, not that the T game or ball striking is the uh the big deal at Augusta, really the flat stick is what controls how well you do uh at Augusta National on Saturday, and especially back now on Sunday.
59:29
SPEAKER_01: But John Rom, to me, right now, has the kind of has the kind of game off the T where even if he's not as accurate as he'd like to be, he can fix it or control it in the middle of a round.
59:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I don't know that you see that with a lot of the other guys that have been successful there.
59:50
SPEAKER_01: Um I I I really think that that's the guy of the three top players in the world right now, uh, which are um without question, uh Rory off the T is really good.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: And when you when you watch Scotty Scheffler, I don't think there's anybody that gets around that course or plays better on big stages than Scotty Scheffler.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
1:00:19
SPEAKER_01: His his T game can get a little cockeyed from time to time.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh McElroy has the most majestic swing, okay, and result, but he's got so much scar tissue from Augusta.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: And even with Speeth's win there, he's got scar tissue from Augusta.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at somebody that maybe, and this is gonna sound like I'm a homer, I know it, but when Sammy Burns got that win at the World Golf Championship, what was it two weeks ago?
1:00:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it was two weeks ago.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: I thought maybe he's ready now to make his run at a major championship.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh, keep an eye on Sammy Burns.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh the LSU great and um Shreveport, Louisiana native.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_01: He plays out of uh Squire Creek over in Shudrant next to Louisiana Tech.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: It is a Fozio course, it is outstanding.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_01: Uh it would remind you a little bit of Waverly, only it's a lot tougher than Old Waverly.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but it is a Fozio course that's just an absolute thing of beauty.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, those guys jump out at me, and I I have been waiting for uh uh a long time uh to see Xander.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm a big Xander Shoffley guy, and he's just not one of the majors that I I've always thought he should.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be my dark horse pick, Xander Shuffle.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: But the other guys, uh Scheffler, Rom, Rory, uh I think you have to have those in mind.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but always, always keep in mind now, guys that that are maybe up in years and haven't been winning majors lately, but like Bubba, that golf course, Augusta National, is made for bombers now.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: It's made for bombers, especially left-hand bombers.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_01: And that's why Phil was on leaderboard so often.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, even after he won, what is it?
1:02:21
SPEAKER_01: I think it's four, right?
1:02:22
SPEAKER_01: He's got four.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I mean, I think he could is the potential there for him to suddenly find his game, yeah.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh, potential there for Bubba to suddenly find his game?
1:02:33
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing about Augusta National is um there are horses for courses, and some of those guys are always going to be there.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh gosh, uh boom boom.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh Freddie Couples has been on leaderboards uh as recently as five years, four years ago.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, he's all he's Nance's age, you know.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_01: So uh, but that's because they know the course, they've been on those greens so many times.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh Tiger's more of a factor in this tournament than he will be in any other major championship because he knows the golf course and he knows those greens so very well.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a blast.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_04: I think so too.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, me and BW, we we both picked uh picked Rory.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_04: I just feel like I feel like this is his time.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_04: I I I I mentioned earlier, I was I think I gave him the jinx by picking him that.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_04: But I you know, we did a little uh between uh to get get our listeners uh fired up about football season every week during the football season since me and Brandon both went to Mississippi State.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_04: We would pick our scores of the Mississippi State games, and just about every week, we were right on the money, just about every week.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_04: So I was like, you know, this could be a good thing or bad thing picking Rory.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_04: We're close with our football picks, but I could be jinxing him by picking him.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_04: But uh but I'd like to see him win, you know.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_04: He like you say he's got marked, he's he's he's been so close there.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I I hope that you're right because I really like Rory.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh I think lately, uh particularly through the live controversy, uh the uh RNA's put a lot of pressure on him, and uh to some extent his position on the tour uh here in the United States put him in a tough position.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_01: And it probably weighed heavily on him.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_01: There are responsibilities that come with being one of the leaders, and with Tiger not playing that often, if ever, unless it's a major, uh Rory's like one of those guys you're gonna seek out.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_01: Um I I think uh, you know, we haven't mentioned uh Justin Thomas.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_01: I I I certainly think Justin Thomas is is no reason why he could not win at Augusta.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_01: Um but I think more for him, uh, and I think a lot about this, guys that play and win PGAs and U.S.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_01: opens are guys that are incredible ball strikers.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_01: Um if you can take some of the putting circumstances out of it, then I think Justin's got a better shot.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh Will Zalatoris and people like that, I think, are always gonna play well on open championship or PGA championship courses.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_01: Augusta's different, man.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_01: It's just different.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_01: You got to be creative, uh, you got to be willing to take risks.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh you can't just be a robot, you can't be a ball-striking robot, I guess is my point, to win at Augusta.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh that's that's why you know Lee Trevino never won at Augusta.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_01: Ask anybody from his era who was the best ball striker of his era, they'll all tell you, Lee Trevino.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, uh my hometown boy, Hal Sutton, you know, won two players' championships, won uh a PGA when he was a kid in '83 at Riviera.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_01: Um never really played that well at Augusta.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_01: What would people say about Hal?
1:05:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's no better ball striker on tour than Al Sutton, you know, the year he.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_01: Was player of the year.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_01: And he had a great comeback and beat Tiger Mano a mano back in 2000 when he was in his mid to late 40s.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_01: You just have to be a magician around the greens with your short game and with the flat stick.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_01: And uh you know that that's what separates guys like Scheffler and other past champions at Augusta, is they're up to the moment, but they're also creative uh with their short games.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_04: Well, well, Tim, this has been great.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh I know uh I know our listeners will really enjoy listening to what you had to say, and and uh especially with this time of the year with with uh with basketball wrapping up and the masters got a lot of going on in the sports sports world.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_04: And uh so really excited about that.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_04: But I do want to uh let our listeners know, you know, we we were selling uh uh our glasses and we had coffee products on there from johnnypacker.com to benefit the cystic fibrosis foundation since uh suffer with CF.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_04: So we're doing what we do now.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_04: We're not selling anything, we're just uh if you're listening to this podcast, there's a little link after we post, it'll say support this podcast.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_04: We'd love for you to just support the podcast.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_04: Now I know Tim, you're friends with uh Boomer Sas and with Gunner, you probably are aware with his fight with CF.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_04: And and I just celebrated my 42nd birthday uh in February.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_04: You know, it's just we've seen it come so far.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh when I was born, the life with someone with CF is 15, was 15.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_04: So I like to tell everybody I I'll kick my coverage, man.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_04: Uh 42 now.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_01: But uh you're a survivor in uh in the era of surviving advance, you have been surviving, right?
1:07:37
SPEAKER_01: And that's right.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's wonderful.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_01: And and prayers stay up for you and all those.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_01: I have friends of mine, really close friends of mine, that have had kids with CF going back 30, 40 years ago, and you're so right.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh those kids, um uh some of them at the time uh were only supposed to live until about their teenage years.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_01: And right, uh one of them outlived his dad, who was in really good shape and my age at the time.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_01: And I'm so proud of that kid.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_01: And and you're right, the the longer we fight it and the longer you live, the more the chances are that we can find, you know, uh, if not a cure, a better way to allow others to live longer.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_04: Well, well, there they came out with this drug uh in 2019.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_04: You might have heard of it, it's called Tricafta.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_04: I was able to get on it, and it treats 90% of the CF population.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_04: And so there's still 10% that can't take it, that they're looking for a drug, but man, it is absolute miracle drug.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_04: People who listen to this podcast have heard me talk about it before.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I was borderline about to have to have a lung transplant.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_04: I moved to Starbucks in 2019 to be closer to Birmingham.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_04: UAB is where my doctors are, and uh my lung function was dropping.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_04: I was I was real sick, and I got they were like, if you can just hold on to get this miracle drug, I got it in 19.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_04: And man, I I feel as good as I did back in college 15 years ago.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_04: It's it's changed my life, literally saved my life.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_04: And uh, and that's what it's saying.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_04: You know, people were born today with CF with this treatment, we're taking tricapta.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_04: I read yesterday the life expectancy is like 57 or something like that.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_04: If you're a born dog, so it's just come a long way.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_04: And but they're still fighting, like that 10 don't have anything.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_04: And I was in a boat before I got this drug.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_04: Well, there was another drug I couldn't get, and and it was frustrating, you know.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_04: I uh seeing other people uh do good with the drug and you can't take it.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_04: So my heart goes out to them, and I know uh I know how they feel right now, but but yeah, there's uh that's kind of the reason why we started this podcast and just share my fight with CF, let people know about it, let people know I'm I'm living, I'm thriving at 42.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_04: So um, you know, there's uh there's hope, I guess.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_04: There's hope, and and yeah, that's what that's what our goal is, is just spread hope and let people know that uh you know it it's a bad, absolutely it's a bad thing, but but good can come out of it.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_04: And um, I just kind of hope that I can share my story with others and and get people on you, get people on here like you.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_04: You know, we love to talk about sports and and you're one of the best at it.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_04: And any and hopefully people will listen to this and they'll know and they can support the show and and and donate to CF Foundation and help raise more money.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_04: We actually, me and Brandon got an award in Memphis uh uh last month for uh for the podcast for just uh kind of doing what we do, you know, just sharing our story and all that sort of stuff.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_04: So it's been fun.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_04: We gosh, we started this and started it, I guess, during the pandemic, but so we're about almost three years into doing this.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_04: It's been a lot of fun, and and I'm so happy to have you back on.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_04: And you're you're one of the greats.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_04: So uh I thank you so much, Tim.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll continue to come on and I'll also uh do what I can to be of even greater service for you at some point with what you're doing for CF uh as we move forward.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_01: I want to be able to do more than just bump my gums on your behalf.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_01: I'd also like to help fill that kitty.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_01: So we'll we'll figure something out down the road a way to do that, okay?
1:11:00
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_04: All right, thanks, Tim.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_04: I really appreciate you coming on.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_01: We'll have you back for sure.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, John.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_01: And give my best to your associate and we'll we'll do it again.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm just gonna go with a homer pick here.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna just go with Bernsey and say, look out.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, these LSU kids are pretty hot right now, male and female.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_02: Thanks so much, Sam.