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- 0:00If you've had cancer and you make it to five years, that's
- 0:03great, but it's a false comfort to think that it's cured.
- 0:09To ignore a potential risk is to amplify its possible occurrence.
- 0:14Here's what we know. There's such a thing called
- 0:17delayed relapse. The big deal?
- 0:19That's not good because when it comes back, it comes back in a
- 0:25burst. It doesn't come back
- 0:27incrementally. I advocate for complementary
- 0:31supportive anti cancer therapies.
- 0:35Why? Because cancer cells are pretty
- 0:38easy to kill when they're little cells.
- 0:41Your immune system is trying to do it every day.
- 0:43That's why a lot of us don't get cancer, because our immune
- 0:45system is winning the battle. The objective is to give you
- 0:50that advantage. Medicine is full of false
- 0:58comforts of doing things to make you feel better about the way
- 1:02things are, even if it doesn't affect the outcome.
- 1:07Now I'm talking about what should you do if you've ever had
- 1:11cancer. OK, so here's what we know.
- 1:15You're cancer prone. How do we know that?
- 1:18Because you've had cancer? The environment you came out of
- 1:23correlated with the cancer occurring, whether it's breast,
- 1:26prostate, lung, colon. Therefore it would be logical to
- 1:33examine environmental milieu, genetics, a small part of it.
- 1:38Oh, by the way, now you're the genetic vector, now you're the
- 1:41family history. You know, you're the one with
- 1:44the cancer. It's not your fault, but it's
- 1:48less compelling to dig into a genetic predisposition when in
- 1:52fact you've already had the disease, all right, just 'cause
- 1:55you're prone to something that mean it's going to happen.
- 1:58In fact, there is this phenomenon of reaction to the
- 2:02event such that you're healthier than you would have been if it
- 2:05never occurred. I see it all the time in the
- 2:09patients and my Pederuti protocol for prostate cancer.
- 2:13They get the fear of God in them and they're focused.
- 2:15Nutrition gets better, repurposed drugs are on it.
- 2:19They're less likely to progress in that or other diseases.
- 2:23So let's talk about the false comforts, OK?
- 2:27One of them is if you've had cancer and you make it to five
- 2:31years, that's great, but it's a false comfort to think that it's
- 2:37cured. I'm not being pessimistic.
- 2:41I don't want you to live with a cloud over your head.
- 2:44But to ignore a potential risk is to amplify its possible
- 2:48occurrence. Here's what we know.
- 2:52There's such a thing called delayed relapse.
- 2:54It's a big deal. There was a study published in
- 2:57the New England Journal of Medicine specific to breast
- 2:59cancer looking at delayed relapse.
- 3:02We're talking about women who made it to five years cancer
- 3:04free. Yeah.
- 3:05Ring the bell. I'm good. 13% of women with
- 3:10level 1 breast cancer, that's the earliest possible cancer
- 3:14that could be discerned. 13% of them had a delayed relapse from
- 3:195 to 20 years. That's not good because when it
- 3:25comes back, it comes back in a burst.
- 3:29It doesn't come back incrementally.
- 3:32Think about this. Cancer is a cellular disease.
- 3:36You have your your breast cancer removed.
- 3:41Some cells spill out of the mix. That always happens 100%.
- 3:46That's why they sometimes will treat hormone.
- 3:49Sometimes they do radiation. I advocate for complementary,
- 3:54supportive anti cancer therapies.
- 3:57Why? Because cancer cells are pretty
- 4:01easy to kill when they're little cells.
- 4:03Your immune system's trying to do it every day.
- 4:05That's why a lot of us don't get cancer, because our immune
- 4:08system's winning the battle. The objective is to give you
- 4:12that advantage. So you're doing these imaging
- 4:16studies. What's what's odd to me, I think
- 4:20this is a paradox that they do the studies looking for
- 4:24recurrence of cancer and they stopped doing them after five
- 4:29years. So two ways to look at that.
- 4:31Why did you stop doing them at five years when this delayed
- 4:34recurrence is a real thing? I told you it's 13% for level 1
- 4:38breast cancer. If you have a level 2, that
- 4:41means if some lymph nodes are involved, the relapse, daily
- 4:45relapse rate goes up over 30%, closer to 36%.
- 4:50That's pretty darn high now when it comes back because it's
- 4:54spread at a cellular level. Think about these little seeds
- 4:58in the in the wind, they're planting in the bone, the liver,
- 5:00they're planting elsewhere. I've heard this too often.
- 5:04It's disturbing to me. Everything was great.
- 5:06Everything was great. She had cancer 20 years ago.
- 5:09Her back hurt. They did an imaging study and
- 5:11the cancer was everywhere. That's because the seeds all
- 5:14spread at the same time 20 years ago, and it took them that long
- 5:19to grow up to be tumors. Now, if we know it's a cellular
- 5:23disease, we know you're prone to it, then you should take in
- 5:27action. Now here's the stuff you can do
- 5:29on your own. I don't care what the cancer is.
- 5:32These are universal recommendations.
- 5:35Percent body fat. For the love of God, get focused
- 5:39on this, whatever it takes. It doesn't matter if you're
- 5:42vegetarian, carnivore, however you achieve it.
- 5:45Lower that percent body fat. For women, threshold I like to
- 5:50see is below 35. Ideally below 30, but maybe you
- 5:55can't get there. Depends on your body type.
- 5:57For men, we like to target below 20.
- 6:00This is one of our admonitions for prostate fighting cancer
- 6:03like a man. For the breast cancer, perhaps
- 6:06even more compelling. A direct correlation.
- 6:09More fat, more cancer. Fat reduction, less cancer.
- 6:13All right, check that box. I don't care what it takes.
- 6:17If you have to go on a GL P1 drug, Ozempic, semaglutide,
- 6:20tirzepatide, you're better off using the drug at percent body
- 6:24fat than avoiding it out of fear.
- 6:28Do not do this on your own. Make sure you have some
- 6:30guidance. The drug alone is not going to
- 6:33be sufficient. You need nutritional behavioral
- 6:37change, right? OK, I have a book coming out
- 6:40pretty soon for that purpose that'll help you, but in the
- 6:42meantime, get some guidance. All right, so we got that part
- 6:46under control. The next part, physical
- 6:49activity, 100% whatever the cancer conditioning is going to
- 6:54have value. The next part.
- 6:56Supplements matter. They do matter.
- 6:58They can help. Vitamin C in particular, I like
- 7:012000 milligrams a day. Vitamin DI like to get the blood
- 7:05levels above 50 that correlates with a potential decreased risk
- 7:10of subsequent relapse. Here's a big one.
- 7:14If you have access to it and you've had breast, pancreatic,
- 7:18colon, liver, other malignancies.
- 7:21Not talking about prostate right now.
- 7:23It's a different kind of an animal.
- 7:25You guys know that it's a different disease.
- 7:28Once a month high dose intravenous vitamin CI.
- 7:31Love this For those patients, 50,000 milligrams intravenously
- 7:37administered has a pro oxidative effect.
- 7:42It turns into hydrogen peroxide when it gets in proximity to
- 7:47cancer cells that kills them. It's safe for your cells because
- 7:53your cells make lots of catalase, an enzyme that
- 7:58neutralizes hydrogen peroxide. So think of it this way.
- 8:02Imagine you've got 2 million cancer cells floating around in
- 8:05your body. You get the IV infusion of high
- 8:08dose vitamin C. It whacks half of them.
- 8:11And now you're down to 1,000,000.
- 8:12Great, they're going to rebuild. But then you're going to whack
- 8:15them again next month and next month and next month.
- 8:18And you maintain that once a month infusion indefinitely
- 8:23because it's safe, because it's got possible benefit.
- 8:26Because of my clinical practice, my patients that thrive and are
- 8:30outliers is what they've done. That woman with pancreatic
- 8:34cancer, eight years, the breast cancer 10 years.
- 8:38This is part of the equation. How about repurposed drugs?
- 8:41They may have a role here. You're going to need a doc to
- 8:43help guide you. So I like that part.
- 8:46I don't like false comforts. I don't like if you've had
- 8:50cancer, the every three month CAT scan your whole body thing.
- 8:55Why do I not like that? Ionizing radiation is a
- 9:00carcinogen, and the whole body CAT scan is a lot of radiation.
- 9:06Is it possible that by being compulsively looking for cancer
- 9:11relapsing, we're actually increasing the likelihood that
- 9:15it will relapse? It's possible.
- 9:19The next question to ask is, but is it important to catch cancer
- 9:24early? It's another one of the false
- 9:26comforts, people. You look at an image, you see a
- 9:30shadow. Is it make a difference
- 9:33regarding your survival? So there's some studies that
- 9:36shed light on this. They've never really, really
- 9:39evaluated that part of the question.
- 9:41I'm not aware of any study they've done where they've taken
- 9:44out lung cancer, breast cancer, and they said, OK, we're not
- 9:49going to do any imaging now. We're just going to let you go
- 9:53and if you get a symptom, we'll look at it.
- 9:55Otherwise, we're going to March on.
- 9:58Compare that to the every three months, let's do a CAT scan, CAT
- 10:01scan, CAT scan. Depending on the cancer, this
- 10:03sometimes is the protocol. One study looked at frequency of
- 10:07CAT scans after removal of lung malignancy and they have high
- 10:13frequency and low frequency. They found no difference in
- 10:17mortality between the two groups.
- 10:20All right, So if we could do it less frequently, maybe every six
- 10:24months instead of every three, maybe once a year instead of
- 10:28every six. If we could do it less
- 10:30frequently and have no increased death rate from the malignancy
- 10:34itself, maybe we don't need to do it at all.
- 10:38Maybe we wait and see if a symptom occurs.
- 10:41Will the cancer be a little more developed if it occurs?
- 10:44Possibly, but it doesn't necessarily mean the outcome
- 10:48will be different. This is very hard to separate in
- 10:51people's brains because they all think I'll get to it early.
- 10:55You know about prostate cancer, You absolutely never want to go
- 10:59dig it in the gland looking for it.
- 11:02You don't jab trocars in there. You're stirring the pot, you're
- 11:06spreading the cancer and you're doing nothing to help prevent
- 11:11you from dying of prostate cancer.
- 11:12So no, we do non invasive assessments with PSA testing,
- 11:19with MRI. We do non radiation non surgical
- 11:23treatment through my protocol with repurposed drug lifestyle
- 11:28and supplement safe. No compromise in vitality has
- 11:34potential to keep cancer contained whether it's prostate
- 11:38in some cases the secondary prevention dynamic.
- 11:42Here's another false comfort imaging and biopsying organs
- 11:49with potential for to rule out potential cancer, where the
- 11:53cancer itself is not a risk at all.
- 11:55Now I'm talking about things like thyroid.
- 11:58So the thyroid glance, it's right here, people, check your
- 12:01mind right now. Good, no nodules.
- 12:04You see how easy that is? A good doc with good palpatory
- 12:07skills can determine if there's a lump there.
- 12:11What if there is? Sometimes an ultrasound's
- 12:15recommended. Not a bad idea.
- 12:17Take a look at it. Get a baseline.
- 12:19Suppose the ultrasound shows an isolated nodule.
- 12:24There may be a recommendation to do a needle biopsy to see if
- 12:27it's cancer. Do not do a needle biopsy.
- 12:30People. Just stop right there.
- 12:33There's several reasons the spread of cancer is real.
- 12:37When you stick needles in cancer, it is logical.
- 12:42It is biologically inevitable. It is an act of delusional
- 12:47denial when doctors tell you otherwise.
- 12:51The other point is that you could do another ultrasound.
- 12:55Thyroid, kind of like the prostate, is one of those organs
- 13:00that if cancer occurs, it's slow moving.
- 13:04Thyroid is a bit unique in another regard.
- 13:07Different from prostate and other cancers, the treatments
- 13:11for thyroid, metastatic thyroid cancer are quite good.
- 13:16So while I don't advise doing nothing, then doing sequential
- 13:21ultrasounds makes sense because if you delay the diagnosis, it's
- 13:25not likely to matter at all, but it's likely to save you a lot of
- 13:29hardship. So in Korea, they made it a
- 13:33national initiative to make sure that they got out there and the
- 13:36ultrasound thyroids. We're going to get rid of
- 13:38thyroid cancer, we're going to lower the death rate from
- 13:41thyroid cancer. We're going to have a National
- 13:43Health initiative. We're going to ultrasound
- 13:45thyroid glands, and they did. And the rate of thyroid cancer
- 13:50diagnosis, you look at the graph, it skyrocketed.
- 13:54Thyroid cancer diagnosis went through the roof, but the death
- 13:58rate from thyroid cancer didn't. Budget didn't change a bit, even
- 14:04though they're now harvesting thyroid glands.
- 14:07No change. Why not?
- 14:09Because most of these thyroid cancers are indolent, taking the
- 14:15thyroid out surgically causes harm without benefit.
- 14:18Sound familiar? Yeah.
- 14:20Kind of like the prostate story. There are better ways to
- 14:24maintain best health. When you take out a thyroid
- 14:27gland, just like the prostate, there is collateral damage.
- 14:31The parathyroid is another gland that sits right next to the
- 14:34thyroid. Very hard to distinguish it
- 14:36because it looks the same. It's not uncommon for that to be
- 14:40destroyed or damaged during surgery, and when that happens,
- 14:45you have problems maintaining adequate calcium levels.
- 14:47The rest of your life needs medical management.
- 14:50Get low calcium, which can be cardiovascular complications.
- 14:54The other thing I've seen happen, which is tragic damage
- 14:58to the nerve that goes to your vocal cord current.
- 15:01The recurrent laryngeal nerve sits near the thyroid.
- 15:04If that gets whacked by the surgeon accidentally, you walk.
- 15:09You talk like this. Yeah, I'm a hoarse voice arrest
- 15:13of your life because your vocal cord is now paralyzed.
- 15:18How awful. All that misery.
- 15:20Surgery. A hardship.
- 15:23No benefit. None.
- 15:25Based upon the studies we have. Right.
- 15:28At least not in the early stages.
- 15:30So you leave thyroid nodules alone.
- 15:33You assess them with an ultrasound once a year.
- 15:36If it goes from 1 to 2cm, you know, maybe taking action, maybe
- 15:41that's the time you consider having the thyroid nodule
- 15:46removed. But you don't do a biopsy.
- 15:49Why would you? It's going to give you poor
- 15:53information. It's going to potentially
- 15:54disseminate disease and it's not going to settle the issue.
- 15:57You still got the nodule. If you ever are in that
- 16:01position, you do not go to your friendly general surgeon who
- 16:07took out your appendix to look at your thyroid.
- 16:11Highly specialized. You hop on a plane if you have
- 16:14to. You go to a place where that's
- 16:16all the dude does most of the time or the lady does most of
- 16:19the time, take it out thyroids. And you want the person who's so
- 16:25busy that they really don't want to operate on you at all because
- 16:29they got too many cases right. We do not want the overlying
- 16:34impulse of financial gain to cloud this picture.
- 16:38So false comforts can happen by biopsies of a prostate.
- 16:44They can happen by surgical treatment of a prostate.
- 16:47Oh boy, I had my gland removed. Not have to worry about dying of
- 16:50prostate cancer. Not false.
- 16:53The likelihood of dying is the same if you never had the gland
- 16:57removed based upon the best studies.
- 16:59How about breast cancer? Hey, I got it to five years.
- 17:01I'm good to know. You're not, You're not, you're
- 17:03not. Do not be passive with a looming
- 17:07threat over your shoulder. Don't live in paranoia, but
- 17:11don't let go of the wheel. You want to live the anti cancer
- 17:17lifestyle the rest of your life. Vitamin D control, percent body
- 17:23fat control, exercise activities, positive mindset,
- 17:29and if you have access to it, for some of you, intravenous
- 17:32vitamin C. Fantastic false comforts abound
- 17:36in medicine. The imaging studies that we like
- 17:39to lean upon generate revenue. They give us an objective result
- 17:44we could share with a patient that gives them a sense of
- 17:47comfort. Now remember, we should do Ekgs
- 17:49as part of the annual physical. They don't do that anymore.
- 17:53Why? It made no difference.
- 17:55It wasn't showing us anything of value.
- 17:58It gave false comfort. You know, I, I was asked
- 18:01recently what which wearable device do I like the best?
- 18:06I said I like my Rolex. It's pretty how how to use a
- 18:09wearable device. What do I I want to check my
- 18:12heart rate. Oh, my goodness, it went up.
- 18:14Oh my goodness, it went down. Oh, look at that.
- 18:16There's a spike. There's an X.
- 18:18Stop staring at your navel, folks.
- 18:21You could tell if your heart's not right.
- 18:23You don't need a watch to tell you what your rhythm is 24/7.
- 18:28Now it may be different if you've got bona fide card
- 18:31carrying vascular or rhythm disorders.
- 18:35OK, you're a different class. I'm talking about average folk
- 18:41without any pre established heart disease.
- 18:45Nothing I don't like Another false comfort.
- 18:48Those sleep watches y'all are wearing right?
- 18:51You wonder how you slept last night.
- 18:52How do you feel today? It's normal to wake up at night.
- 18:57The watches are notorious for being marginally accurate and
- 19:02not necessarily clinically correlating.
- 19:05I don't need a watch to tell me if I slept OK, right?
- 19:09My body will tell me that. False comforts.
- 19:12You can spend a lot of money chasing false comforts.
- 19:17We talked about mammograms recently.
- 19:19Another false comfort. My mammogram was normal.
- 19:24OK, I mean, it's better to be normal than not normal, but it
- 19:28doesn't protect you from what we care about death from from
- 19:34breast cancer. The evidence of its merit
- 19:37regarding avoiding death from breast cancer is thin and comes
- 19:42at a high price. I share this with you, not to
- 19:46diminish everything to do with medicine, but so that you can
- 19:51become a thoughtful, a question asking type of a person.
- 19:57It's your health, it's your body, it's your choice.
- 20:01You now have the ability to research things on your own.
- 20:05Hey, Doctor Pedriti says that maybe mammograms aren't really
- 20:08helpful to prevent death from breast cancer.
- 20:12Check the research out. It's there.
- 20:15Make your own decisions. Get good counsel.
- 20:18I'm not talking about the counsel that comes from the
- 20:20person doing the mammograms. You know what they're going to
- 20:22say or the conventional doc that is just following the bread
- 20:26crumbs that were laid in front of them.
- 20:29That's why we like protocols. That's why we like paradigms
- 20:33that structure us on flow charts.
- 20:36We don't have to think. Here's the flow chart.
- 20:39Doc Pederuti was handed down to you from corporate.
- 20:44Here's the flow chart for the annual physical.
- 20:46You ever have one of these? Have you fallen lately?
- 20:49Do you feel safe in your home? Look, it's, it's not that those
- 20:54issues are unimportant. It's just that they should be at
- 20:57the discretion of the patient and the doctor may not be
- 21:01relevant to everybody, may not be the best use of your time,
- 21:04but it's a false comfort. Somebody's getting a box checked
- 21:07somewhere. So we don't lean on conventional
- 21:11medicine. We don't lean on FDA approved
- 21:13treatments. The healthcare industry is not.
- 21:18It's a disease intervention phenomenon.
- 21:21And what's the main priority of every hospital, of every clinic,
- 21:26of every corporate health entity?
- 21:30Fiscal solvency, That comes first.
- 21:35Please spare me the lip service about how patient care and
- 21:40safety are #1 no, they're not. They're number two.
- 21:44Number one is make sure you put the lights on.
- 21:46And to do that, by golly, we got to take care of healthy people.
- 21:51We got to make them believe they need us.
- 21:54There's not enough sick people to generate profit.
- 21:57So let's get out there and do bone density studies and label
- 22:00people osteopenic so we can do more bone density studies and we
- 22:03can give them drugs. So let's get out there and check
- 22:06cholesterol so we can label them as having hypercholesterolemia.
- 22:09Totally healthy people now have been labeled and medicalized.
- 22:13Now they need an ongoing follow up, blood testing and oh, by the
- 22:15way, maybe some other imaging studies as well.
- 22:18Sound familiar? Is this the treadmill we're on?
- 22:22If we're on it, it's by choice. We don't have to be.
- 22:26Yeah, people may look at us sideways, but you're going to
- 22:30live better if you live the way you want to live.
- 22:34Health vitality, life extension does not come from a hospital,
- 22:39emergency room or medical clinic.
- 22:41By and large, there they are when you need them.
- 22:45Catastrophic illness, acute infectious problem, antibiotics.
- 22:50I'm not dismissive of conventional medicine.
- 22:53I'm just skeptical of their exaggerated claims for health
- 22:57and privacy of your vitality. So process some of these
- 23:02thoughts, team. Make a plan for your health.
- 23:05Here's what I hope. I hope next year you wasted all
- 23:08your money on health insurance because you didn't need it.
- 23:12Speaking of, you got to keep some cash aside to spend on your
- 23:15health. The sad paradox is that
- 23:19sometimes the damn insurance costs so much it absorbs all
- 23:22your discretionary income. That's a tough thing to manage.
- 23:28So I'm I'm of Medicare age, which means I can buy all those
- 23:32stupid supplement things. I didn't buy any of them because
- 23:36I don't value any of them. You never know what's not
- 23:40covered until you try to use your health plan and find out
- 23:43what's not covered. Good luck reading it.
- 23:46It doesn't happen. There are more holes in it than
- 23:49Swiss cheese, so I've opted out. I save my money.
- 23:53I put it. I don't put it in my pocket.
- 23:55I spend it on my ELF. What happens if you need a
- 23:59prescription doc? I pay for it.
- 24:01There's a bazillion generics out there.
- 24:02It's not expensive. What happens if I need an
- 24:05imaging study? I pay for it, you do the right
- 24:08study, it's cheap and most of them you don't need in the 1st
- 24:10place. It's different if you have a
- 24:13chronic illness like diabetes, like autoimmune diseases.
- 24:17I get that with the rest of us. They're selling us false
- 24:22comfort. That's the theme today.
- 24:25False comfort, fear driven false comfort.
- 24:29I have my mammogram who thank God I'm good.
- 24:32I've got the the Cadillac plan for my health insurance.
- 24:36It cost me 3000 a month, but by golly, everything's covered
- 24:41really well. Here's to being healthy.
- 24:45Here's to not needing healthcare.
- 24:48Here's to avoiding doctors, hospitals, and emergency rooms.
- 24:52Here's to doing your own homework and doing your
- 24:56proactive effort to stay well if you've had cancer, to prevent it
- 25:00from coming back. Those answers can be found, just
- 25:04not in the conventional office in most cases.
- 25:07Till next Time Team. Thanks for listening and I'll
- 25:10see you on my podcast. Bye now.