Latest / How Canadian Markets Work / Episode 91: REITs and Income Trusts (The Depreciation Illusion)
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- 0:00Last time we looked at hedge funds where, you
- 0:02know, that whole two and 20 fee asymmetry can
- 0:05just eat half your returns, like even when the
- 0:08strategy works perfectly. Oh, yeah. You can literally
- 0:10have a strategy return 22 % and you, the investor,
- 0:14walk away with under 12. It's brutal. Right.
- 0:17But today we're flipping the script entirely.
- 0:20We're looking at a financial structure that seems
- 0:22to do the complete opposite. It pays out distributions
- 0:25that look, well, completely impossible on paper,
- 0:28but are actually completely sustainable. Yeah,
- 0:31I mean, it looks like a math error just waiting
- 0:32to collapse. If you try to apply a standard corporate
- 0:36lens to these vehicles, the numbers simply do
- 0:39not work. No, they really don't. But that's because
- 0:41we're dealing with a structure that was designed
- 0:43from the ground up to systematically break the
- 0:46traditional rules of how we measure corporate
- 0:49health. Exactly. So for anyone listening who
- 0:51has ever looked at a real estate company's stock
- 0:54metrics and just felt completely lost, this deep
- 0:58dive is your shortcut. It's a very necessary
- 1:00shortcut, honestly. Yeah. We are digging into
- 1:02the mechanics of real estate investment trusts
- 1:05or REITs and income trusts. Our mission today
- 1:08is to figure out why traditional stock metrics
- 1:11fall apart the second a property is involved
- 1:14and how a hidden tax quirk could be quietly building
- 1:19this massive tax bill for you years down the
- 1:22line. Which nobody wants to find out about the
- 1:24hard way. Definitely not. Okay, let's unpack
- 1:25this because to grasp how a REIT operates, we
- 1:29really need to look at why this structure was
- 1:31permitted to exist in the first place. Right.
- 1:33Right. Because it certainly wasn't an accident.
- 1:36A REIT is essentially just a trust that holds
- 1:38income producing real estate. So we're talking
- 1:40about apartment buildings, retail malls, industrial
- 1:43warehouses, data centers, stuff like that. And
- 1:45when you invest, you're not actually buying shares
- 1:47in a traditional corporation. Exactly. You're
- 1:50buying units of a trust, and that trust acts
- 1:52as the entity that owns the physical buildings.
- 1:54So the whole point of this setup. is this concept
- 1:57called flow -through. It's like a bypass vowel
- 1:59for double taxation. Which is huge. Right. Because
- 2:02in a normal corporate structure, the company
- 2:04makes a profit, pays corporate tax on that profit,
- 2:06and then pays a dividend to you, the shareholder.
- 2:09And then you pay personal income tax on that
- 2:11dividend, double tax. Exactly. But a trust allows
- 2:14the income to flow directly through to the unit
- 2:17holders without being taxed at the trust level.
- 2:19The catch, though, is that to keep this special
- 2:22status, they have to distribute the vast majority
- 2:25of their taxable income to the investors. Right.
- 2:28And this brings us to a massive structural shift
- 2:30in Canadian tax history because prior to 2006,
- 2:35Canada had this booming general income trust
- 2:38sector spanning dozens of different industries.
- 2:41Oh, everyone was doing it. Yellow Pages companies,
- 2:43meat packers, energy providers. Literally everyone
- 2:46was realizing that converting their standard
- 2:48corporation into a trust structure was a highly
- 2:51effective way to legally avoid corporate taxes.
- 2:54They were converting en masse. It was wild. It
- 2:56essentially became this water pipeline that goes
- 2:59straight from the river to the town, completely
- 3:01bypassing the municipal reservoir, the reservoir
- 3:04being the government's tax revenue. I love that
- 3:07analogy. And once one company figured out they
- 3:09didn't have to leave a cut for the government,
- 3:11every single board of directors wanted to build
- 3:12their own pipeline. Well, sure. But the drain
- 3:16on federal tax revenue became really severe.
- 3:18So in 2006, the federal government stepped in.
- 3:22The financial press at the time called it the
- 3:24Halloween Massacre. Sounds intense. It was. They
- 3:29effectively killed off the general income trust
- 3:32structure for most sectors. They just closed
- 3:35the loophole. But wait, real estate investment
- 3:37trusts were explicitly carved out of those new
- 3:40rules. They were. provided they met very strict
- 3:42conditions regarding what percentage of their
- 3:44revenue actually came from real estate. Which
- 3:46I think reveals a lot about the government's
- 3:48economic priorities. They shut down the trust
- 3:50structure for telecom companies and manufacturers,
- 3:53but they spared real estate. Yeah, they had to.
- 3:56But if this incredible ability to bypass double
- 3:59taxation relies entirely on a specific tax exemption,
- 4:03I mean, isn't that a regulatory moat? Like one
- 4:06that could just dry up if the government changes
- 4:09its mind. It is entirely a regulatory moat. And
- 4:13understanding that is fundamental to understanding
- 4:15the risk profile of the asset. The government
- 4:18spared REITs because real estate inherently requires
- 4:21massive pooled capital. You can't just build
- 4:24a skyscraper with a small business loan. Exactly.
- 4:27It's an incredibly capital intensive, localized
- 4:31and illiquid asset class. If they had taxed real
- 4:35estate at both the corporate and personal level,
- 4:37the capital required to build malls and apartments
- 4:40would have dried up instantly. So incentivizing
- 4:43property development benefits the broader economy.
- 4:46Yes, their existence is intrinsically tied to
- 4:48that policy decision. OK, so the mandate is clear.
- 4:51They have to distribute their income to keep
- 4:54their tax exempt status. but that mandate slams
- 4:58headfirst into traditional accounting. Oh, it
- 5:00completely breaks traditional accounting. It
- 5:02creates one of the most bizarre realities you
- 5:03will ever see in a financial statement. Let's
- 5:06pull a scenario straight from the sources we've
- 5:08got. Let's do it. Say you pull up a REIT on your
- 5:10brokerage app and the earnings per unit, like
- 5:13the official accounting profit, is 40 cents.
- 5:15but they are paying out an annual distribution
- 5:17of a dollar and 10 cents. Right. So traditional
- 5:20financial analysis screams that a company paying
- 5:22out 275 percent of what it earns is a catastrophe.
- 5:26Yeah. In any other sector, that looks like a
- 5:29dividend that is about to be violently cut, usually
- 5:32followed by the CEO resigning. Exactly. If I
- 5:34see a normal tech or consumer goods company doing
- 5:37that, I just assume they're liquidating the office
- 5:41furniture to pay the shareholders. Yet for a
- 5:43REIT, it can be entirely healthy. Which is so
- 5:46counterintuitive. It is. But the reason comes
- 5:48down to why traditional price to earnings or
- 5:51P -E ratios are uniquely destructive when analyzing
- 5:54real estate. It all hinges on a single accounting
- 5:58principle. Depreciation. Yes. Depreciation. The
- 6:02tax code basically forces landlords to pretend
- 6:05their pristine commercial buildings are behaving
- 6:07in a way that defies observable reality. That's
- 6:10a great way to put it. The accounting rules for
- 6:12depreciation were largely built for the industrial
- 6:15era, like factories and stuff. Right. If a manufacturer
- 6:18buys a factory or heavy machinery, that equipment
- 6:21physically degrades over time. It loses value
- 6:25until it's eventually worthless. Makes sense.
- 6:28So accountants who demand conservative uniformity
- 6:30make you take a depreciation charge every year.
- 6:33This systematically reduces your reported net
- 6:36income on paper. But they require real estate
- 6:38companies to apply this exact same logic to their
- 6:41buildings. Exactly. The incur statement subtracts
- 6:44this enormous depreciation chart, operating on
- 6:47the assumption that a premium downtown office
- 6:49tower is just slowly wearing out and marching
- 6:52toward a value of zero. Here's where it gets
- 6:54really interesting. Because anyone who has ever
- 6:57looked at the property market knows that a well
- 7:00-maintained building in a good location appreciates.
- 7:03It goes up in value. Yeah. It doesn't go to zero.
- 7:05Yeah. It's like writing off the value of a vintage
- 7:08guitar every year for tax purposes, claiming
- 7:10it's becoming worthless when you and everyone
- 7:13else know it's actually becoming a priceless
- 7:15collectible. That's a perfect analogy. The accounting
- 7:17says you're losing money, but reality says otherwise.
- 7:20Writing down the value of a premium skyscraper.
- 7:23As if it were a rusting tractor on a farm is
- 7:26absurd. And because of that massive non -cash
- 7:29depreciation charge, a REITs reported net income
- 7:32systematically understates the actual cash the
- 7:35property is generating. The income statement
- 7:37is completely blinded by the depreciation rule.
- 7:40So to fix this, the real estate sector had to
- 7:42adopt its own metric to show investors what was
- 7:44actually happening with the cash flow. They call
- 7:46it funds from operations or FFO. OK, looking
- 7:49at the data from the sources really makes this
- 7:52click. So let's walk through them. We have a
- 7:54hypothetical REIT that reports a net income of
- 7:57$20 million. But to arrive at that $20 million,
- 8:00the accountants force them to subtract a massive
- 8:03depreciation charge of, say, $45 million. Right.
- 8:07So to calculate the FFO, you take that $20 million
- 8:10reported net income and you just add the $45
- 8:12million depreciation charge right back in. You
- 8:15just reverse the accounting fiction. Exactly.
- 8:18You also have to subtract any one -time gains
- 8:20or losses from selling a property, because selling
- 8:23a building is a singular event, not a recurring
- 8:26measure of how well you operate your properties
- 8:28month to month. That drastically changes the
- 8:31picture. You aren't generating 20 million. You're
- 8:34actually generating 65 million in operating cash.
- 8:37Huge difference. Let's say this REIT has 50 million
- 8:40units outstanding. If you blindly calculate the
- 8:43traditional earnings per share using that 20
- 8:45million dollar net income, you end up with that
- 8:48terrifying 40 cents a unit we talked about. But
- 8:50when you calculate the per unit metric using
- 8:52the FFO of 65 million dollars, you get an FFO
- 8:56per unit of a dollar and 30 cents. that impossible
- 9:00payout of a dollar and 10 cents isn't a red flag
- 9:02at all. Not at all. I mean, it looks completely
- 9:04insane against 40 cents of accounting earnings.
- 9:06But against a dollar and 30 cents of actual FFO,
- 9:09that payout ratio is about 85%. Which is perfectly
- 9:13fine. Distributing 85 % of your cash flow when
- 9:16you are legally required to distribute the majority
- 9:18of it is a perfectly normal, sustainable operation.
- 9:21So this is why price to FFO replaces the traditional
- 9:24P -E ratio when evaluating real estate. Oh, 100%.
- 9:27If you rely on P -E, every single REIT looks
- 9:31like an overpriced, failing business on the verge
- 9:34of bankruptcy. Wow. But FFO is really just the
- 9:37starting point. Many analysts take this one step
- 9:39further to a metric called adjusted FFO, or AFFO,
- 9:44to get to the true bottom line. Right, because
- 9:46even though the physical footprint of the building
- 9:48appreciates, the components inside the building
- 9:51absolutely do degrade over time. Exactly. A prime
- 9:54location appreciates, but the roof still leaks.
- 9:57Elevators break down. HEAC systems need replacing.
- 10:00Parking lots need repaving. All those glamorous
- 10:02things. Right, these are recurring maintenance
- 10:04capital expenditures, and they require real cash.
- 10:08So, AFFO takes the funds from operations number
- 10:11and subtracts those real unavoidable maintenance
- 10:14costs. By doing so, AFFO provides an even more
- 10:18accurate conservative picture of the cash the
- 10:21business is truly producing after keeping the
- 10:23properties in working order. Okay, so, rule number
- 10:26one for real estate. Toss the net income out
- 10:29the window and look for FFO and AFFO. Always.
- 10:33That proves the dollar and 10 cent payout is
- 10:36mechanically safe from a cash flow perspective.
- 10:39But if those distributions are mathematically
- 10:41safe, it's really tempting to just treat these
- 10:44vehicles like supercharged savings accounts.
- 10:47And this is where we have to look at the psychological
- 10:49trap hidden in the payout itself. Because we
- 10:51need to know exactly what that cash is. It's
- 10:54not all income. Right. The composition of that
- 10:57cash when it lands in your account is complex.
- 10:59If you are holding these investments in a non
- 11:02-registered taxable account, the tax implications
- 11:04of that composition become absolutely critical.
- 11:07Because when a REIT pays you a distribution,
- 11:09it is rarely just standard income. Right. It's
- 11:11usually a mixture. It might be a part ordinary
- 11:13income, part capital gains, and part something
- 11:15called return of capital or ROC. Think about
- 11:18opening your brokerage app right now. you see
- 11:22a REIT offering a green 8 % dividend yield and
- 11:26you feel like a genius collecting all this passive
- 11:29income. It feels great until tax season. Right.
- 11:32Because what your brokerage app doesn't actively
- 11:34warn you about is that part of that quote -unquote
- 11:38income is just an accounting illusion giving
- 11:40you your own money back. Exactly. Return of capital
- 11:44is exactly what the name implies. The REIT is
- 11:46basically returning a piece of your original
- 11:49investment principle. OK. Because it is your
- 11:52own money being handed back to you, the government
- 11:54doesn't tax it in the current year. It effectively
- 11:57defers the tax. Which sounds good at first. It
- 11:59does. However, it achieves this deferral by reducing
- 12:03your adjusted cost base, or ACB. So what does
- 12:06this all mean in practice? Let's run the numbers
- 12:08from the sources to see how this trap closes
- 12:11over time. OK, let's say you buy units of a REIT
- 12:13at $20 a share. You receive your distribution
- 12:16of $1 .10 every year. And when you get your tax
- 12:19slip in the spring, it indicates that $0 .30
- 12:22of that payout was return of capital. OK, so
- 12:25$0 .30 is ROC. Because you weren't taxed on that
- 12:28$0 .30 this year, you must subtract it from your
- 12:31original purchase price, your adjusted cost base.
- 12:34So after year one, My ACB drops from $20. down
- 12:38to $19 .70. Exactly. Now, if you hold this investment
- 12:43for five years, your ACB drops by 30 cents a
- 12:46year, resulting in a total reduction of $1 .50.
- 12:50Right. So my new adjusted cost base is now $18
- 12:53.50. Correct. Well, wait. If the price of the
- 12:57REIT on the public stock market never moves a
- 12:59single inch for five years. Yeah. And I eventually
- 13:02sell it for exactly the $20 I originally paid
- 13:05for it. I still have a capital gain of $1 .50.
- 13:07per unit just because of the ROC. Yes. You sold
- 13:11it for what you paid, but because your adjusted
- 13:13cost base was systematically lowered every year
- 13:16by the return of capital, you triggered a capital
- 13:18gain upon selling. That is wild. The deferred
- 13:21tax is finally realized. You essentially owe
- 13:24taxes on a gain even though you didn't make a
- 13:26dime on the stock price itself. This raises an
- 13:28important question regarding long -term holding.
- 13:31What happens if you hold a high -yielding REIT
- 13:33for 20 or 30 years? Oh, wow. I guess your adjusted
- 13:37cost base can theoretically drop all the way
- 13:39to zero. It can. And once your ACB hits zero,
- 13:43any future return of capital you receive can
- 13:45no longer reduce your cost base. So what happens
- 13:48then? At that point, the ROC is generally treated
- 13:51as an immediate capital gain in the year you
- 13:53receive it, completely changing the tax efficiency
- 13:56of the investment. The administrative burden
- 13:59of this is terrifying. Like, if you don't track
- 14:02your ACB meticulously, adjusting it downward
- 14:05every single year in a non -registered account,
- 14:08this error just compounds. It's a huge headache.
- 14:10When the tax agency eventually audits the math
- 14:13a decade later, untimeling those incremental
- 14:15RSE reductions is going to be a nightmare. So
- 14:18what's the solution? The simplest solution, of
- 14:20course, is asset location. Right. This entire
- 14:22headache is a non -issue if you hold the REIT
- 14:25inside a registered tax sheltered account, like
- 14:27a TFSA or an RRSP here in Canada. Because inside
- 14:31those specific accounts, the government doesn't
- 14:33require you to track your adjusted cost base
- 14:35at all. Exactly. The tax shielding is absolute.
- 14:39This makes REITs a textbook example of why choosing
- 14:42which account you put a specific investment into
- 14:44is just as important as choosing the investment
- 14:47itself. Okay, so if the distributions are mathematically
- 14:50safe using FFO and the tax traps are entirely
- 14:54avoidable simply by putting the asset in an RRSP,
- 14:57the yield starts looking incredibly attractive
- 14:59again. It does, but... Right, there's always
- 15:02a but. But that ignores the volatility of the
- 15:04physical real estate itself. A high steady distribution
- 15:08often tricks investors into assuming the underlying
- 15:10asset acts like a safe, sleepy bond. Oh, they
- 15:14behave nothing like bonds, primarily because
- 15:16of the fundamental nature of commercial real
- 15:18estate. It is incredibly capital intensive. Right,
- 15:21you mean debt. Lots of it. To acquire, develop,
- 15:24and maintain these massive properties, REITs
- 15:26carry substantial amounts of debt. Because their
- 15:29balance sheets are highly leveraged, their unit
- 15:31prices are acutely sensitive to interest rates.
- 15:34It's essentially a massive bidding war for yield.
- 15:37Like, if the government suddenly offers a 5 %
- 15:39guaranteed return on a risk -free Treasury bill,
- 15:42a REIT offering a 5 .5 % yield with all the inherent
- 15:46risks of commercial real estate and tenant defaults
- 15:49suddenly looks like a terrible deal. And the
- 15:52market reacts immediately to that discrepancy.
- 15:55Investors sell the REIT, driving the unit price
- 15:57down. And as the price falls, the yield, which
- 16:02is just the distribution divided by the price,
- 16:04mechanically rises. Exactly. The price will continue
- 16:07to fall until the yield hits, say, seven or eight
- 16:10percent, a level high enough to attract capital
- 16:13back away from those safe government bonds. People
- 16:16who bought REITs thinking they were a stable
- 16:18bond substitute often get crushed when rising
- 16:21interest rates force a repricing of the yield.
- 16:24It happens all the time. And the danger isn't
- 16:26just in the debt structure. It's in the physical
- 16:28reality of what they actually own. Just buying
- 16:31a generic mutual fund or ETF with the word REIT
- 16:34slapped on it doesn't mean you have a diversified
- 16:36portfolio. Not at all. Property type dictates
- 16:40everything. Just consider the economic shifts
- 16:42of the last decade. An industrial warehouse functioning
- 16:45as an e -commerce distribution center has a fundamentally
- 16:49different economic trajectory than a suburban
- 16:52retail shopping mall. Right, because of online
- 16:54shopping. Exactly. The exact same shift in consumer
- 16:59behavior, buying goods online instead of in person,
- 17:04drove unprecedented rental growth for industrial
- 17:06REITs while causing an existential crisis for
- 17:09retail REITs. Wow, yeah. And a commercial office
- 17:12tower. facing a remote work transition has different
- 17:15risks than an apartment building facing housing
- 17:17shortages. You really have to look under the
- 17:19hood to see what kind of concrete you actually
- 17:21own. That actually brings up a massive blind
- 17:23spot regarding diversification for the listener.
- 17:26Think about your overall financial picture. If
- 17:28you own a home in a major city, your largest
- 17:31single financial asset is already heavily exposed
- 17:33to the domestic real estate market. It's a huge
- 17:36overlap. Furthermore, your job your human capital
- 17:40is tied to the local economy. If you then tilt
- 17:43your investment portfolio heavily into domestic
- 17:46reads just to chase a high yield, do you really
- 17:49need that? You aren't diversifying. No. You are
- 17:52actively concentrating your risk. Investors frequently
- 17:55silo their thinking. They treat their stock portfolio
- 17:57as one bucket and their physical house as a completely
- 18:00separate bucket. Which is a mistake. A huge mistake.
- 18:03True risk assessment encompasses your entire
- 18:06net worth. Adding heavily leveraged real estate
- 18:09equities to a net worth that is already dominated
- 18:11by a residential mortgage is a choice that drastically
- 18:14amplifies your exposure to a single sector in
- 18:16a single country. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
- 18:19So to summarize what we've covered today. The
- 18:22mechanics of this sector really force you to
- 18:24look past the surface level numbers. You absolutely
- 18:26have to. You have to bypass the traditional P
- 18:29-E ratio because accounting depreciation creates
- 18:31this illusion of loss on properties they're actually
- 18:34appreciating. Right. You had to hunt down the
- 18:36funds from operations the FFO and AFFO to see
- 18:39the true cash flow safety of the payout. And
- 18:42you have to respect the psychology of the return
- 18:44of capital, knowing that the tax deferral today
- 18:48comes at the cost of a lower adjusted cost base
- 18:51and a higher capital gain tomorrow. Understanding
- 18:54the plumbing of these financial structures is
- 18:56really the only way to separate a calculated
- 18:58investment from a blind gamble. Well said. Before
- 19:01we wrap up though, there is one final piece of
- 19:04the real estate puddle from the sources to consider.
- 19:07Think about how these massive properties are
- 19:10actually valued on a REITs balance sheet. Oh,
- 19:12the appraisals. Yeah. Unlike stocks, which are
- 19:15marked to market by millions of active buyers
- 19:17and sellers every single second of the trading
- 19:19day, real estate values are based on appraisals.
- 19:23Which are fundamentally estimates. They are backward
- 19:26looking opinions made by professionals based
- 19:28on comparable recent sales. Right. And in a frozen
- 19:32property market, those sales might be months
- 19:34out of date. Which creates this fascinating historical
- 19:37tension. What happens when a REIT's internal
- 19:39appraisers look at a massive portfolio of downtown
- 19:42office buildings and officially declare it has
- 19:44held its value? But the public stock market fiercely
- 19:48disagrees. We see this happen during commercial
- 19:51real estate slumps. Right. The public market
- 19:53aggressively sells the REITs units, causing them
- 19:57to trade at a massive discount to the official
- 20:00appraised net asset value. The appraisal says
- 20:03the building is fine, but the market price is
- 20:05screaming that the appraisal is wildly out of
- 20:07touch with reality. And historically, when the
- 20:10appraisers and the public market disagree, the
- 20:13market is usually the one holding the checkbook.
- 20:16Almost always. It's definitely something for
- 20:18you to mull over the next time you look at a
- 20:20supposedly rock -solid real estate valuation.
- 20:23Just because the math looks beautiful on the
- 20:25balance sheet doesn't mean the foundation isn't
- 20:27shifting underneath. Exactly. It pays to know
- 20:29what's under the hood. Thanks for joining us
- 20:31on this deep dive. Catch you next time.