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Ep. 965: Rut Fresh Radio - The Best Is Yet to Come! Michigan Buck in the October Lull · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's going on. Welcome back to refresh. This is Jake
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  Speaker 1: Hoefer and we have a great episode here for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: We have Aaron Blasey from Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Who connected on a big buck during the October ul
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  Speaker 1: You get to hear the whole story and progression and
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  Speaker 1: game plan on how we pull that together. We have
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  Speaker 1: Christian Babcock from Texas who's also hunting in Oklahoma. We
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  Speaker 1: have Benny Schuman from Minnesota who's actually.
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  Speaker 2: Packing his bags and headed to Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: So we are at the time of year now where
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  Speaker 1: things are going to get more exciting. The opportunity is
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  Speaker 1: likely going to increase. This is a very special window.
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  Speaker 1: You've been sitting on the sidelines to feel like you're
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  Speaker 1: behind the eight ball. Things are likely going to start
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  Speaker 1: bouncing in your favor. There's a lot of change that
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  Speaker 1: is going to happen over these seven days. There's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a lot of sign that is laid down.
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  Speaker 1: If we get a cold front. We're recording this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit early, but if the weather cooperates and you
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  Speaker 1: have an opportunity to potentially shoot a buck before things
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  Speaker 1: go completely haywire in the month of November, there's a
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  Speaker 1: really good chance you're going to have a big deer
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  Speaker 1: show up this week on a scrape entre camera. So
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  Speaker 1: grit down. This is going to be an exciting week
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  Speaker 1: from here on out, it's gonna get a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoyed this week's episode of
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  Speaker 1: here in the US. We are going to kick things
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  Speaker 1: off here with Aaron Blyse is a little bit longer
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  Speaker 1: interview because there's a lot of good information that I
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  Speaker 1: think will help you guys as you developed a plan
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  Speaker 1: for the next seven days.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Aaron Blyseie all right, First up on the line,
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  Speaker 1: we have Aaron Blisee. Aaron always finds a lot of
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  Speaker 1: success in the month of October, in the October little
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  Speaker 1: when everyone else struggles. Everyone else is saying that deer
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  Speaker 1: aren't moving, it's too hard. I'm just gonna sit on
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  Speaker 1: the couch and watch football. You over the last few years,
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  Speaker 1: it's like October is your time to shine.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the deal is, I guess. I well,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, thanks for having me on, Jake. I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate it and getting to catch up with you and everything.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say, you know, since twenty twenty one
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  Speaker 3: October thirteenth, that's kind of been my day, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I really feel like that like quote
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  Speaker 3: unquote October lull the last I would say, probably the
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  Speaker 3: last five. You know, about five years ago I started
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  Speaker 3: looking into like my cameras really started having deer like
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  Speaker 3: good bucks that I'm looking for daylight on scrapes. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like it seems like in that timeframe even this
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  Speaker 3: year with the deer I did kill just a couple
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  Speaker 3: of days ago that he like he has a running
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  Speaker 3: mate with him, and then all of a sudden in
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  Speaker 3: this timeframe, a flip switches. He's opening scrapes and he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have a running mate with him, so it's like
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  Speaker 3: he's almost starting to put you know, they're starting to
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  Speaker 3: feel a type of way I feel like, and you're
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  Speaker 3: starting to get these deer almost like in a sense
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  Speaker 3: of like how the later October is like they're starting
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  Speaker 3: to move a little bit more and in.
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  Speaker 2: Daylight a little bit more that's what I see.
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  Speaker 3: And I've been able to capitalize a couple of years,
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  Speaker 3: three different times, you know, in the last couple of
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  Speaker 3: years on the same.
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  Speaker 2: Type of deal.
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  Speaker 3: But the window is really small, like I'm saying two
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  Speaker 3: three days. It seems like, you know, later October could
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  Speaker 3: be eight days, you know, it could.
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  Speaker 2: Be a little bigger. But this is like a real
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  Speaker 2: tight window.
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  Speaker 3: And if you can get in there and get the
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  Speaker 3: right conditions, I feel like I've done that a couple
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  Speaker 3: times in it the stars can align.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to dive into that because I think
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  Speaker 1: if if the window is only three days, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for the middle part of October, and it's much wider
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  Speaker 1: for the later part of October, we want to try
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  Speaker 1: to help everyone capitalize on that. But before we get
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  Speaker 1: into this, I've been torturing all the guests with the
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  Speaker 1: trivia questions, So yours is going to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different here. So Michigan Pennsylvania, right, those are two
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  Speaker 1: states that come to mind. There's a ton of ton
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  Speaker 1: of hunters in both states. So my question for you
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  Speaker 1: is who has more gun hunters, Michigan or Pennsylvania. And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna ask the same thing for archer, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you how many of each.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's a great question. Boy, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to say that it's Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Michigan. With gun hunters, Okay, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be shocked. Here in Pennsylvania, there is six hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighty nine thousand gun hunters in the state of Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: There's five hundred and seventy nine thousand, So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: still hass.
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  Speaker 2: Of an amount, but so many people.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred and ten thousand hunter delta between the two
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's say one point one and some change
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  Speaker 1: million gun hunters between those two states, which is just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. So I'll ask you the same question. So
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  Speaker 1: for bow hunters, who has more Michigan or Pennsylvania. Knowing
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  Speaker 1: knowing that stat now, oh.
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  Speaker 3: My gosh, I think I'm gonna stay with Michigan. I
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  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna go with Michigan on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you are correct. There's three hundred and twenty two
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  Speaker 1: thousand bow hunters in the state of Michigan and there
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  Speaker 1: are two hundred and sixty five thousand in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. And just for folks to get an idea,
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  Speaker 1: like I just flip the page here, Kansas thirty three
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  Speaker 1: thousand to put that in respective, yes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and it's like I even think about Iowa too, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the the zone in the county that I
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  Speaker 3: hunt in Iowa, I don't even know what the number is,
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  Speaker 3: but there are like more bull hunters in the state
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  Speaker 3: of Michigan then people live in that county. Like it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I would even probably loop in a
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  Speaker 3: couple counties around there. It's wild just how the population,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with Pennsylvania and Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: There's such rich tradition there.
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  Speaker 3: I love to see it, you know, I really do,
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  Speaker 3: because I still get really thrilled on the deer that
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  Speaker 3: I get to hunt, and uh, you know, so it's
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  Speaker 3: still running strong, which is good. I'm gonna guess what
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  Speaker 3: is Wisconsin third or fourth right in there somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just I'll.
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  Speaker 1: Flip over here, let me find it really quickly. Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: obviously a very rich tradition state when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 1: But Wisconsin as six hundred and nineteen thousand gun hunters
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  Speaker 1: and two hundred fifty three thousand bow hunters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Michigan, And yes, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Have the full spreadsheet of all of them, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: those are three states that come to mind when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the deer camp and tradition and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: But looping back to knocking down an awesome buck in Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: you were, you know, one of three hundred some thousand
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  Speaker 1: bow hunters had success here. Man, what how did so
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  Speaker 1: just dive into a little bit more so? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I feel that time of the year it's a little
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that just ultimately kind of
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  Speaker 1: struggle or kind of have like a melancholy approach to
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting where it's like, yeah, you know, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you seem to be very methodical with that approach. So
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  Speaker 1: kind of what made you key in on what was
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  Speaker 1: the feature that you set up? I mean this kind
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  Speaker 1: of break down the tactics or I guess the nuts
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  Speaker 1: and bolts of how it came together. Yeah, so real quick,
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  Speaker 1: last year, he was you know, I knew about him
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  Speaker 1: last year and he wasn't you know, he was like
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  Speaker 1: just kind of an up and comer.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I felt he was a really good two
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  Speaker 2: year old.
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  Speaker 3: I felt just had a lot of promise, but I
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  Speaker 3: never seeing him from on the hoof one.
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  Speaker 2: Time last year.
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  Speaker 3: But I did have a lot of camera pictures and
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  Speaker 3: videos of him, but he really wasn't on the radar,
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  Speaker 3: to be honestly, So coming into this year, he showed
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  Speaker 3: up and you know, and he was still there, and
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  Speaker 3: it was like, man, he's really made a big jump,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, I was just super excited to get
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  Speaker 3: after him. And I figured he was a three year old,
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  Speaker 3: but he was just such a big body deer that
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  Speaker 3: I just love those big body deers so and honestly,
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  Speaker 3: he's probably the biggest deer I.
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  Speaker 2: Have to hunt this year on any farm in Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, well, I'm gonna put a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time into him, but I will say the biggest common
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  Speaker 3: denominator on and how I got to kill him early
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  Speaker 3: like this is that the farm is corn this year,
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  Speaker 3: so the standing corn really played a big role. I
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  Speaker 3: did put in two acres of food plot. So basically,
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  Speaker 3: when the corn stops, I took twenty four feet from
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  Speaker 3: the farm field to the timber, and I aligned twenty
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  Speaker 3: four feet all the way around the farm of food
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  Speaker 3: and I used the vitalized stuff and I did the
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  Speaker 3: night tribute in the spring and then came to the
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  Speaker 3: carbon load and everything. So that was like the biggest
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  Speaker 3: common denominator because which I didn't know at the time,
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  Speaker 3: but knowing looking back now, you know, I encountered this year.
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  Speaker 3: I hunted him seven times. It's the only farm I've
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  Speaker 3: hunted this year. I hunted him for seven times and
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  Speaker 3: I encountered him five times.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And every time I seen him, he was just like
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  Speaker 3: he would never break that sixty yard you know, barrier,
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  Speaker 3: but like every time I seen him, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: he's never seen a human before. So my entry and
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  Speaker 3: exit really was really key in this, and so I
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  Speaker 3: think the biggest common denominator. We had a huge acorn
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  Speaker 3: crop this year. I don't have a ton of acorns
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  Speaker 3: on this farm, there are some, but he and he
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  Speaker 3: had three, well two for sure, different beds for south
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  Speaker 3: and east winds because that's what we had. And that's
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of what I what I kind of honed.
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  Speaker 2: In on there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that was the biggest thing, being
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  Speaker 3: able to and then laying off the farm like there
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  Speaker 3: was you know, I hunted him the first two nights
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  Speaker 3: a season, and I laid off him for like five
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  Speaker 3: days because I'm like, well, I'm really want to like
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  Speaker 3: methodically just kind of like go in when I'm be
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  Speaker 3: really patient.
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  Speaker 2: None of that's hard for me, but really be patient.
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  Speaker 2: And it really paid off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you hunted seven times, he's seen him five times,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it sounds like there were semi close encounters.
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  Speaker 1: What was he feeding in that green food source adjacent
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  Speaker 1: to the grain or do you think he was betted
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  Speaker 1: in the corn or betted on a ditch or a hedgerow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture kind of what it is in
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  Speaker 1: my head here and I'm kind of piecing it together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So actually night number one, I went in and I
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  Speaker 3: bumped him out of his bed. He was thirty yards
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  Speaker 3: off my walking trail and I was doing a hanging
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  Speaker 3: hunt that night. Well, that kind of like gave me
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  Speaker 3: another card to you know what he was playing. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we had some east wins to start the year and
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  Speaker 3: or some north northeast winds, and he was betting on
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  Speaker 3: some set aside. There was some set aside coming from
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  Speaker 3: like the timber. There was like a ten foot you know,
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  Speaker 3: ship with set aside, and then the green source and
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  Speaker 3: then the grain and on those east winds the way
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  Speaker 3: the farm lays out.
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  Speaker 2: He was betting on and just inside.
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  Speaker 3: The timber on a little knoll, and he was bulletproof
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  Speaker 3: there he was looking into the timber. He had the
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  Speaker 3: wind coming over his back from the grain, and he
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  Speaker 3: had a great escape route. And I bumped him that night,
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  Speaker 3: thought it was over. Actually kept going in. I did
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  Speaker 3: a I was thinking bump and dump kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well I had.
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  Speaker 3: Actually he did come out last night and I saw
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  Speaker 3: him at sixty yards, so that was his east wind bend.
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  Speaker 3: But then we started getting some south winds and he
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  Speaker 3: shifted to the corn a lot like. So he had
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  Speaker 3: a sea of corn and he was betting in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of nowhere, in the sea of corn. And two
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  Speaker 3: times that I hunted him my walking path through the
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  Speaker 3: corn through a windrow. I had to walk by him
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  Speaker 3: as he was betted somewhere around me, and I never
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  Speaker 3: spooked him. He walked over my boot path twice, wow,
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  Speaker 3: to get to the green in those So he was
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  Speaker 3: he was, he was shifting beds. But this deer's core
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  Speaker 3: area was forty acres or less. Like he was so
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  Speaker 3: tight and hold up so tight right there. And ultimately
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what helped too. But the entry and
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  Speaker 3: exit was was really key there. Yeah, no, I think
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  Speaker 3: that's that's super helpful. And so when it came together,
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  Speaker 3: what was the setup for that evening and just kind
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  Speaker 3: of the breakdown, because I mean, it's pretty awesome to
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  Speaker 3: knock down your target bucket October thirteenth, Like that's you're
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  Speaker 3: doing something right. It doesn't typically happen by accident at
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  Speaker 3: that time of year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So well, actually to go back a week before I was,
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  Speaker 3: I did a hanging hunt on him on where I
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: hunted him on opening night. When I was getting into
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  Speaker 3: the tree, I tore my moniscus. So that was a
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  Speaker 3: bad night. And I actually did encounter him that night too,
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  Speaker 3: and then so I did I hunted the next morning,
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  Speaker 3: kind of moved in tighter, never seen him, but then
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  Speaker 3: to kind of go to the kill night. That day,
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  Speaker 3: I went to the doctor to get all this stuff
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  Speaker 3: done and found out it actually was torn at two
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  Speaker 3: o'clock that day and I'm like, well, I had all
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  Speaker 3: the stuff in the truck, I'm going to the farm.
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  Speaker 3: My plan was is to walk through the corn no
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  Speaker 3: wind at all, but it was out.
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  Speaker 2: Of you know, it was it was a south wind.
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  Speaker 3: It was a southwest when it actually my wind was
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  Speaker 3: blowing at him where he was bedded. But in that corn,
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  Speaker 3: you know a lot of that wind can do some
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  Speaker 3: funky stuff, and I think it really helped me out.
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  Speaker 3: But when I was walking in that night, I cut
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  Speaker 3: a big track and I thought it was his track
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  Speaker 3: coming out of the corn. And I'm like, I thought
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  Speaker 3: to myself, I'm like, maybe he's already kind of come
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  Speaker 3: through here, but I'm still gonna try it. So I
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  Speaker 3: got in that night, and you know, that was the
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  Speaker 3: key with the entry and exxit, and I will say,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back the one. I encountered him five
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  Speaker 3: out of seven sits, so one night, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was encounter.
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  Speaker 2: Three or four.
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  Speaker 3: He he came out into the green source and I
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  Speaker 3: waited a long time after dark until I watched him
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  Speaker 3: walk off. And that's something that I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people don't really take into consideration, is the exit
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  Speaker 3: has to be just as good, if not better, as
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  Speaker 3: the entry, you know, when you get pinned in, and
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  Speaker 3: I had to. I had I waited a while. I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking maybe forty five minutes to an hour before I
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  Speaker 3: could lose him.
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  Speaker 2: And binocular light.
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  Speaker 3: Basically before I snuck out, And actually I didn't walk
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  Speaker 3: through the corn. I walked right through the plot all
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  Speaker 3: the way back. Because of where he went, I couldn't
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: go in the corn. So it was just you know,
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: those things go through your head of like, man, he
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  Speaker 3: could come out and get my boot track and then
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  Speaker 3: backtrack me to this blind and but that's what I
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  Speaker 3: had to do. And it really paid off because every
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  Speaker 3: time I seen him, he's like, didn't even know I
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  Speaker 3: existed kind of thing. So, uh, tearing my meniscus. I
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  Speaker 3: was kind of like, uh, confined to a box blind
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  Speaker 3: octagon box bind you shoot a bow out of well
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  Speaker 3: in this in this plot as it kind of turns
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  Speaker 3: around the timber, so I have like a square piece
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  Speaker 3: of timber and then the food kind of like turns
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  Speaker 3: right here. It's like a it's like an inside corner.
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  Speaker 3: I had a blind right here facing like a tear
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  Speaker 3: drop of timber if that yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I had a scrape tree there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was perfect to be able to It's like
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  Speaker 3: a Mark Drewy thing, you know, walk through the corn,
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  Speaker 3: pop up the blind and then get out at night
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  Speaker 3: and going through the corn.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like, really really nice to be able
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  Speaker 2: to do that.
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  Speaker 3: And that night I got in, I cut his track
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  Speaker 3: and saw deer early. It was the last night of
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: the Red Moon. I am a Red Moon guy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: a Moon guy, But I don't think it's the end
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  Speaker 3: all be all. I just think it's another common denominator
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  Speaker 3: that might be able to get a deer that you're
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  Speaker 3: looking for up on his feet a little earlier. Peak
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  Speaker 3: times were like seven forty that night, so it was
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  Speaker 3: actually after shooting light and saw deer early. Didn't see
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  Speaker 3: anything for two hours, and I was watching some doze
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  Speaker 3: down one side and I looked over and he was
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  Speaker 3: popped out of the corner at forty yards already, and
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  Speaker 3: it was a little, you know, a little after seven,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, holy crap, it's him. And this is
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: the fifth encounter I had with this year. I'm like,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: how I'm like, when is my luck gonna run out?
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm thinking, Like this never happens
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: to me, you know, And he was kind of starting
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: to work away a little bit. I actually went to
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: full draw on him one time and he was at
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: forty four yards and I'm like, no, let's just I
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: was fully like accepting if I don't get a shot
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: at this year tonight, I'm okay with that because I've
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: seen him so much and there's so much of season left.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: You know, before I probably would have forced something, and
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I'm like, let's not do that. And but I was
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: fighting the sun going down too, is fighting all that.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: It's darker in the blind. You know that you're playing
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: And so I waited probably five six minutes, and he
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: turned and he's starting to walk kind of to me.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: And he got to a point where I'm like, okay,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I think I can take a shot there. And he
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: he went. He went broadside eating he was going to
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: come into a scrape tree.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I had a scrape tree right there. He was just
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: kind of making his way.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: But I will say three, I think it was three
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: out of the five encounter or no, two out of
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: the five encounters.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: He had a running mate with him. Well, he slowly
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: lost that running mate.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: And the morning that I shot him, I finally got
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: him on camera opening up a scrape. It was the
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: most rut I guess, you know behavior I've seen him do.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: He came into a scrape that hadn't been open and
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: actually destroyed it, and so he was kind of getting
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: to feel a different way. And when I got that
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: that morning, I'm like, we're dealing with a different animal now,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Like he's gonna switch thee yeah, the bed to food.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: The pattern might be changing really quick here. And where
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: I actually got that picture was a ways away from
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: where I ended up killing him. He was going off
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: the farm, so I'm like, you know, maybe he's not
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: gonna be there anyway. So he's working into me and
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: he gets to a point he's you know, fully broadside
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: and eating away and I put the pin on him.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: It was thirty eight yards and shot him and rest
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: is history.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of brilliant key lessons there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: One of them is not not forcing it, and you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: you end up getting a better shot opportunity. I think
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that's something that a lot of people should have in
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the back of their mind, you know, throughout the fall.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And the other one is not having a rigid plan
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: on your entry or.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Exit too, because I feel like a lot of people like,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: this is my entry and this is my exit, Like
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: that is rigid. That is the rules, and I don't
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: break the rules, and like you know, you had to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: play an audible, which seemed to, you know, play into
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: your favor, you know, A couple of days later on.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: The next few months.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say that one night that I there's
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: one night that I encountered him. He came out the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: same same runway out of the corn that I ended
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: up killing him on, and he goes in the timber
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I can't go through the plot now,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I have to go by where he was. It started
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: porn Rain, and I'm like, it's dark as heck. I
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: don't want to use a head lamp because he's he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: in the timber. He's within one hundred yards of me,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, porn Rain. I'm like, I do not
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: want to go back to this corn there, And you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Tormentiscus too, some hobbling everywhere, and I'm like, so I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: got in the corn, I get out of that corn.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I looked like a wet bear.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Like I am just.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Stopping wet, you know. And I'm like, this is what
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: you got to do, though, you know. And the next
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Nightey does this or not. The next night, but the
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: next time I hunt him does the same path, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like Okay, that really it was a light bulb.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Thing that really that really worked.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: And on a deer like that, you know, I think
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: he was a three year old, possibly a four year old,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: but with a caliber of deer like that in this area,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: those are those are the things you have to do
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: to be able to kill that. And the other thing
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I want to say, going in that night there was
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: hardly any wind, so walking through the corn was really loud.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It took me. I had to go about three hundred yards.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: It took me forty minutes to go three hundred yards
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: because I'd only walk two or three steps in the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: corn to make sure I wasn't hitting any corn to
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: make and I had to walk right by him.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So that ended up working as well. That's a really
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: good piece of advice.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So it's October twenty second now, and you already have
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a Michigan buck down, and you had mentioned that you're
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: headed to Iowa, and so you know, I think the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I guess the approach is probably somewhat similar. So October
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: twenty second to the twenty ninth, I feel is a
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: really exciting time to run trail cameras, to be in
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the woods like it's it's time, Like, if you've been
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines, it's time to get serious and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: get going. So what are you specifically most excited about
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: or what are you keen in on. Obviously it's an
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: out of state hunt, so your style might be a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: little bit different. But what has he fired up here
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: for the next seven days other than the dates and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: other being in Iowa too.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you nailed both of them. The dates are
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: really good and we're in Iowa.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: So what's really got me excited about it is, actually
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: is this farm.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I've never set foot on it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I was going to go out and scout at this spring,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: but I did, and I have a buddy that lives
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: there that kind of helped me out or actually not
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: kind of helped me out a lot with this. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: sent cameras out to him. The cameras have all died.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Like I am literally going into this with a clean state.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: That is the exciting part to me, because I don't
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I almost wish I didn't set cameras out there because
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be like that mental state of like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: oh there's nothing to hunt, or I want like so
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I have no idea my plan for the next seven
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: days is the weather.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: The Red Moon is hitting on.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I think the twenty third or twenty four, so that
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: is both of my Iowa trips that I've planned this
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: year are around the Red Moon. It's the first time
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I've ever done that. And the weather, we're looking at
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: mid to upper sixties as a high and then we're
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: looking at mid forties to low fifties as a low.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: So I don't mind the weather. It could be a
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: lot worse. We could be in eighties and sixties in
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: as a low. I don't mind the weather at all.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: My plan is to hunt, you know, like I normally
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: would end of October and you nailed it the scrapes.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: My plan is to get there and do speed tour,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: just kind of a delicate speed tour, find as many
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: scrapes as I can. I might even do some mock scrapes,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna deploy cameras. The cameras need to be moved,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and I want to get an inventory. And honestly, my
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: next trip is planned for the fourth of November, so
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of using this trip as like gearing up
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: for that rot trip to see what deer here.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: All the deer I think have should have moved on.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: The corn just got cut the other day, so three
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: acres of corn was left as well. So we're gonna
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: be dealing with like something really exciting. No, And my
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: favorite thing about it is there's never been no pressure
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: on this farm. That is like my mo I don't
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: like to have pressure on it. So I'm gonna push
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: in a little bit, find as many many scrapes as
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I can, start putting cameras out, start doing some observation sets,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: and then once I see that deer, I'm gonna move in.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: That's my plan.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Like I said, the red moon, the moon phase, everything
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: is lining up. The weather is going to be good
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: enough in the dates are going to be awesome. So
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I am taking a decoy with me. I don't know
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: if I'm going to deploy that end of October. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: think the grunner in the rattling antlers could be a
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: true benefit. This is a farm that is a big
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: seedar thicket and there's not a lot of timber around it,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: so longlining deer. Long lining is a true thing in
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: this time of year because they're going to be trying
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: to find that first you know dough that comes into heat.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance that I might pick
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: up bucks that I you know, normally wouldn't pick up
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: in this timeframe, and you got a little window when
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: they're there, They're going to be there.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So I'm ready to jump on that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So for someone that does not pay attention to the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: red Moon, that's me. What does that mean? Like so like, okay,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it's the peak of the red moon and this is
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the peak activity does a change where you sit or
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: set up? Because I know there's I know just enough
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to ask this question, and that's where it ends, like
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: because I know there's like feeding time, Like what does
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: it mean?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Uh? And how is it impacting your strategy?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I will say, like it's just it doesn't
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: really impact it a ton as far as uh, I'm
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: not saying like all the red Moon's here, like I'm
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: gonna kill a big one tonight. Like it's just one
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: of those tools like you still like have to play
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the wind, you have to do all the things. It's
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: just another factor to be able to put into the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: equation that like that pressure is building. So the red
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Moon in a nutshell is just when you know, I'm
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: not great with it either, but the you know, the
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: under undertoe and the overhead of you know, the moon
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: and everything lining up and the pressure is the greatest.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: You know, it's the you know, that's what moves the
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: tides and everything in the oceans and stuff.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So it's got a big pulling factor.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: And you know, as I look at as I look
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: at the dates right now, like we're looking at the
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: twenty fourth, like the peak time is you know, the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: first day is three for so the peak pressure, the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: peak time where the deer it could help get the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: deer get up and moving is isn't a good time.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: And I'm like I said, I like the red moon.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I think I've killed like sixty two percent of my
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: bucks on a red moon. So I feel like that's
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: a pretty good number in the white tail world. So
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: in I don't think it'll Jake, I really don't think
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: it'll change what I do. It's just happening as I'm there,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm still gonna I'm not
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: gonna be like, oh, it's a you know, it's saying
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: to do be on a field edge, So I better
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: go on a field edge.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm gonna read the farm and read the deer.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Still It's just one of those things that just like, hey,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: he might get up a little earlier. And I will
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: say the Red Moon on this deer that I killed
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the first night of the Red Moon on the ninth,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I encountered him.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: The peak.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: The peak time was, I want to say it was
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: four fifteen. He showed up at four o'clock in the
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: afternoon on the night.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So it's like your Eastern time, Yeah, Eastern times down
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: there for folks too.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: So I had just got in the gotten the blind
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and he showed it up. I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: like we got four hours until dark, and like here
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: You know. So I do put a little validity in it,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: but it's not the end all, be all factor for me.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me run a quick scenario pass you that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be relatable to a lot of folks.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You get a picture of a big deer that you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: haven't seen before, and maybe your cameras are dead, or
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: maybe you put him out late, or maybe it's a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: new one that just showed up.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: This is deer that just showed up on a scrape.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: It was eleven o'clock a night it was one o'clock
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in the morning. You know, what what would be your
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: next two or three day strategy if and when that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: happens on the Let's say it's the twenty second or
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the twenty third, when you get that first picture on
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a scrape, you're like, I want to kill.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Him, and it's after dark, that's what you're saying. It's
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: not daylight. Not daylight.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I would, I would for sure, you know, knowing he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: in the area.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of factors going to that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Do I have any other dar on camera too that
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I'm chasing or any of those daylighting you know, Honestly,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it would change much of what
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I'm doing.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Depending on the time.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: If he's just after, you know, shooting hour or shooting
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: light or just before, that might change something, but I
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: would probably just honestly, I need more information than that personally.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I need I need.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I need some different data points I need If he's
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: just on one camera, I need some more, Like I
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: need to know that he's roaming the farm. If he's
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: just kind of showing up, I'm just gonna kind of
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: keep playing my playbook and maybe I'll catch him on
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: his feet or maybe catch him on another camera daylighting
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: or something like that. It probably wouldn't change too much.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I would just keep running everything that I thought would
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: be working, and then kind of I don't want to
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: say hope, but just kind of stay in the game
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: because if he's there, that's all I need to know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: If he's there.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Before years ago, if I had a night a night picture,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I'd be so down in the dumps, like, man, he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: not coming to night.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I really don't care anymore.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Even at that time of year or even early season,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: like the year that I just killed in Michigan, I
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: don't have a ton of daylight pictures him. This year,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I actually had more eye sightings of him than I
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: do have pictures. He just was never on camera. Yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: but I encountered him way more. So, you know, I
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: really feel like the daylight or night, I just need
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: to know he's there, and then I'm going to kind
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: of work back from there and just kind of have
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: my instincts take over and just keep running the plays
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: that I know I like it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So, okay, next next seven days, October twenty second of
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the twenty ninth ten being this is the best week
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of the entire season. For opportunity, one being this is
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the worst week of the entire season.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Where are you gonna put it with right now?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Where the where the weather is, how the moon's lining up,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: and the state and the area I'm going to.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're putting it. We're putting it. We're like
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a nine to two right now, we're going we're going high.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Like I'm putting a lot of I'm putting a lot
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: of emphasis on this trip because you know, just as
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: well as I do, when when that calendar flips November,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the shackles are off and you have no idea, you
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: can get into that lockdown sphase.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You can get down where deer just blown by you
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: at eighty mile an hour and you're like, what the heck?
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, I'm putting a lot of pressure,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: not pressure, but a lot of validity on this.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Trip to to see the biggest year in the area.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And that's that's kind where we're at.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, semi controlled environment, great, great opportunity. Encourage everyone to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: go out there and make the most out of it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And good luck in Iowa. Congratulations once again on your
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Michigan buck If someone if are you did you film
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that hunter is there any opportunity with people.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, so where will be Where will people be able
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to watch that?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: So it'll be like next year probably on our Grit
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: series for Latitude the Grit there and then probably after
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that gets then I'll have it on my YouTube channel,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the Fault podcast tube channel eventually, but that nobody will
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: probably be able to see it until next year.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's filmed and we're good to go.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you giving me the opportunity to come on here
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: and talk a little bit. I'm no expert by any means,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: but i do like to talk.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So you have the light right line of work.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, awesome, Eron, Thank you so much.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Congratulations once again, thank you, Jake.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: All right, next up on the line, we have Christian
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Babcock from Texas and Oklahoma, mainly hunting Texas right now,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: but we got it. We have representation from what would
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you what would you consider Texas and Oklahoma the South,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the Plain States, the South Plains, the South desert. Yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it feels like a desert about ninety percent of the year.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: But I'd say we'll just call it at the South.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I'll identify with the Southern hunter some rep Okay, all right,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: so from the South, and have we been kicking off
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a trivia question or a fun fact for the state
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that the folk is joining us from. I'm going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: tell you the amount of total deer that were harvested
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in the state of Texas last year, and you're going
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to have to guess how many of them were archery,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: so you can give it and it's in the number
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of thousands. It could be tens of thousands, could be
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands. There was eight hundred and thirty seven
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: thousand deer tagged in the state of Texas in twenty
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: twenty four. How many of them were archery bucks or
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: archery deer? Excuse me, archery deer? How many archery out
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of eight hundred and thirty seven thousand, man, we have
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: like a two week or a two month long rifle season,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to say the majority of them were
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: probably rifle. I'm going to say like one hundred and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand or archery.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: That's that's pretty darn good.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Seventy five thousand, So seventy five thousand, seven hundred and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: sixty one thousand deer were shot with a firearm.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: In the state of Texas.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So bow hunting is a pretty small minority in Texas,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: or at least that's what it looks like.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: When you can rifle hunt the majority of this season,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it's like put that struggle stick away and let's do
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: some let's do some gun hunting.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So that's how people are done here. I like it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: So what.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Have you been seeing down there in Texas with some
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of your hunts here recently? Yeah, so I've been hunting.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I've been hunting five times since the beginning of October
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: when our season opened, I think it opened actually the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in there of September. But pretty slow movement overall. I've
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: been hunting some travel corridors, throwing up a bunch of
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: mock scrapes, and I've been averaging like three to five
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: deer sit right there at the end, primarily hunting evenings
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: right there at the last fifteen minutes of light.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: So not a ton of movement.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I know, we had a really really good acorn crop
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and there was a bunch of good brows, so I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: haven't been seeing a whole lot of movement from that perspective.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: But I went out on Wednesday saw five doughs a
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: in a bobcat. So any set that you're not getting
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: an absolute goose egg this time of the year when
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: it's ninety.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Three degrees is a really good set.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: The rainfall this summer, was it above average? Below average?
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Not sure? I would say it was above average until
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the last part of the of the of the summer,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: like the end part of the summer, and we haven't
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: had rain here and it feels like over a month,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: so it's been pretty dry as of late. But man,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: in the spring, in that early part of the summer
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: where we're getting a ton of rain, so I thought
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great antler season. And I've got
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: several really good bucks down here, so I think the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: antlers grew really well.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: It's just got pretty dry the end of the summer. Yeah, well, we're.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Getting into the exciting time of October deer season. This
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: is when everyone starts to get really excited and you
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: know it's October twenty second. What for the next seven days?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: What are you kind of looking at potentially as far
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: as where you're sitting and what are you keen in on.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Are you looking for scrapes, are you looking for a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: specific food source. Are you looking for those two things
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in tandem. What's on your what's on your game plan?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Because it's you know, late October, and this is the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: time when it's it's getting more exciting by the day,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: like we're getting to the part of the season where
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: it's going to get better and better and better and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: better for quite some period of time. So breed some optimism.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: The unders that have been struggling throughout them month of October, well,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: if they still can afford their water bill because all
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the laundry detergent they spent in the first half of October.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: With all the heat, I mean, we're still looking at,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you know, some temperatures in the nineties for the highs,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: so but I'm seeing some shifting down towards the low
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: eighties and then we're you know, looking at fifties in
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the mornings. So that that's you know, that last week
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: of October. I'm really looking at those really cold days
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: where it's a you know, where it's shifting downwards. I'm
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: monitoring a bunch of spots with mock scrapes, and I'm
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: seeing more and more bucks hitting those towards the end
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of daylight hours. Huge typically in the evenings. But I'm
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: trying to still get them between bed and food right now,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: but giving them a reason to stop alongside where I'm at,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: which is usually a mock scrape. So I'm getting pretty
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: tight to bedding as they're laying more and more signed down,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: especially the rubs and scrapes.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm keying in on that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: And then one spot in particular, I just saw a
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: farmer end up playing in a winter wheat field, so
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I was pretty happy about that. But you know, we're
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: hunting in the south here, so there's a lot of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: corn on every property line, and if you can get
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: in between some of that, find some good sign, maybe
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: lay down your own mock scrape. I think as we
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: start to trend to the lows and in the fifties,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: we're going to see some really, really good deer activity.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: But it's been pretty slim, so I think we got
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: some pent up demand with all the heat we've had.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I think these are going to bust loose. I really do.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And I think as soon as we get that front
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: whenever we you know, here in Illinois looks like there's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the temperatures are getting back the closer to I guess normal.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: It's been it's been unseasonably warm up here too.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: But when you say tight to betting, so we're picturing
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: October twenty second to October twenty ninth, is your plan
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to still be somewhat tight to betting on a scrape
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: maybe a mock scrape within one hundred yards of where
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you're anticipating them betting or is it two hundred yards
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: or sixty yards?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Is it like a rule of thumb for someone to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: have in the back of their mind.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I would say less than a coup one
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: hundred yards For me, I can only speak to my
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: situation where I'm hunting down here. It's very small permission pieces,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: so a lot of these properties are long, kind of
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: skinny flagpole access type pieces, and so there's not a
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: whole lot of width, but a lot of them have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: some depth. So I'm hunting pretty close to betting on
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: those scrapes. So I want them to move, obviously, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: like you said, it is going to bust loose. So
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: but I don't want to ask too much. Right three
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: four or five hundred yards away from my betting area
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to a mature buck right now, that's still a long ways.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: When we're talking still in the eighties for the high
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask him to do something, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just not ask him to do too much. So for
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the later part of October, are you bringing ratoin anilers
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: or you're bringing a call? Are you are you pulling
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: out a bag of tricks? Are you still just trying
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to hunt natural movement for this time period? So primarily
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: in Texas, I'll hunt natural movement, but I do have
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a least in southwestern Oklahoma, a lot of mature bucks,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: pretty low pressure around in that area. That's a spot
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that I'm definitely going to bring out, bring the decoy out,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and definitely do some rattling. What I've noticed is this
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: big boss buck decoy that I like to use down
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: here in Texas. That's about the biggest buck you would
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: ever see body wise, But uput open Oklahoma, he looks
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a little more like a familiar face. So I don't
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: want to scare off my Texas bucks, but for the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma ones, I'll absolutely break out the decoy and start
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: smashing that black rack together. Yeah what real quick base
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: give us a rundown on what the strategy would be
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: for southwestern Oklahoma with the decoy, with rattling like, what
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: are the conditions, how far are you putting the decoy?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Kind of break that down For someone that has the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: decoy in their garage, they like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: try using that. Oh yeah, So I actually set up
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a mock scrape in the middle of this kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: travel corridor on this river bottom piece that I'm hunting
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: southwest Oklahoma. So I'll put that buck too, not too
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: far from that mock scrape, because I'm getting a ton
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: of inventory and trail camp pictures around that spot, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a spot where if a buck
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that hadn't been in the area before just popped up
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: at it, it would look pretty normal, right, like, oh, this
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: buck's kind of gum and lay down some sign here,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So I would I'm gonna put mine kind of face
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: in the bedding area. And then obviously I like to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: put him twenty twenty five yards in a kind of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in a posture looking away in a sense, And so
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I want that buck to have to kind of swing
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: around and get even closer to me to end up
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: checking out that decoy. Obviously, you got ground sent You've
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: been touching the decoy, so you kind of got a
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: crapp er get off the pot in a sense of
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: when that buck decides to come in, he's either going
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to spook or get shot. But hopefully it's a mature
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: buck when he comes in to do that. But I'm
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: setting my decoy up right there near that mock scrape,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: so it looks pretty natural in terms of a new
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: buck cruising into a you know, established area. Do you
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: feel that, you know, looking at knowing the time of
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: year and kind of looking into the weather for the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you know, call it twenty second to the twenty ninth.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Do you have pretty high X expectations or are you
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: trying to keep them in check or where? Where's your
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: level of excitement based off of all the factors that
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: we know as of right now.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited overall.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like we've been at such a low even
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: average feels high at the moment. So we've been sitting
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: at like a one or a two confidence level, and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: now as we're seeing you know, some fifteen degree wings
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: in temperature, I'd say that get me up to a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: five or six. Like it's not going to be unseasonably
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: cold though that last week of October. It's just it's
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: still going to be right in line with probably expectations.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: But when it's been as unseasonably warm as it's been,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: average feels like exceptional right now, right So I'm I'm
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: feeling pretty confident about that, but I'm not expecting it
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: to break loose, just in an extraordinary way.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when is your if you had to say, over
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the years, what is your favorite time of year of where?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: What pretend you only had, you know, the five days
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to hunt? Like, what time period are you most excited
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and amped up about it? Is it late October? As
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: are deeper into November or even deeper than that because
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you're in the South, man, I really like that Halloween
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to about the fourth of November. I feel like the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: rut hasn't really busted loose, but you still got those
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: bucks on that cruising pattern, right, so they're a little
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: more susceptible to calling their home. Rangers are expanding a
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: bunch more so I feel like they kind of start
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to expose themselves more as they start to lay down
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: sign and move around. But they're not in that rut
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: craze zombifide area where when they're running by you can't
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: get them to stop and when you're bow hunting, you
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: need them to stop and you need them to be close.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: So that little five day period right there, Halloween to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: about the fourth or the fifth, that is my favorite
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: time to hunt all year, especially here in the South.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: What are you keen in on through the twenty second
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: twenty ninth to have the most success in the octogon
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Halloween to that fourth, Because I feel like for someone
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: that listens to that now, like I'm just gonna wait
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: until Halloween, until the fourth. That's when Christian says it's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the best. But I think a lot of times it
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: has something to do with throwing some hunts, throwing some CITs,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: doing maybe a little bit of scouting, and kind of
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: building up a case to make a good plan from
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Halloween to the fourth. So, if you were someone that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: just wanted to key in on and develop a really
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: strong plan for for that weekend, what are you specifically
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: laser focused on over the next seven days from a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: scouting perspective or in inventory perspective. Yeah, I'm looking. I'm
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: looking for scrapes and I'm looking for just natural travel corridors.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: As the as the uh you know, the temperatures get
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: lower and lower. I just think since we've I feel
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like we're gonna have this pent up demand similar like
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you see in the markets, right, I mean, these bucks
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: want to move, they want to lay down sign. But
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it's like, dude, I'm sitting here wearing a winter coat
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't want to be cruising all around
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of yards. So I'm just looking for
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: those places, like I said, in between food, bed and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: bed and food and places where they're laying down signed.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Like so if you can find natural scrapes sentting over,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: maybe a scrape line or a rub line, something like that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, man, you can't kill them from
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the couch. So although maybe it won't be the best
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: time because it's not going to be unseasonably cold, some
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: deer definitely going to get killed and you can't kill
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: them sitting at home. Like I know, we've been saying
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: hurry up and wait, hurry up and wait. But when
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: we start getting in the October twenties, it's time to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: hurry up and get in the woods, you know, even
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: if it is warm, because they're definitely thinking about it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Well, so you had put it one to ten. You're
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: at like a five or six for the next seven days,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: then I would.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Say about a five or six.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which when you're going from a one or two, man,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it feels great.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: That's a good way to look at it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Well, Christian, good luck, good luck in Texas, good luck
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. And if people want to tune in on
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: how your guys this season progresses, where.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Can they do that?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just check us out on YouTube Hunter's Advantage and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: we also have the podcast on Apple and Spotify, so
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: you can just stay up to date with us there.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Awesome, good luck, Christian, I appreciate it all right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Next up on the line, we have Benny from Minnesota
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: with Moultrie.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: How's it going, Yes, sir, I'm happy to be here.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. Things are going great, man.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, the deer aren't moving as much as I'd
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: like them to be, but we're We're hearing of guys
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: and deer all over the country, so that's that's fun
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: to hear. And I'm hoping that that happens to me
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: before too long.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I think when this goes live, we're at the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: stage of the season where it's only going to get
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: more exciting in the time that We've been waiting for,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you know, really since last year, but I got to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: kick it off with a trivia question here about the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. I'm putting you right on the spot,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: just like everyone else. Yep, And so I'll give you
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I'll give you this question. Okay, what year was there
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the highest total harvest of whitetail deer in the state
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: of Minnesota. So the amount the most amount of deer tagged,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: whether it was archery or their firearm season.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna roll with something in the early
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: two thousands. I'm gonna say two thousand and seven.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: You're close.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So actually, last week we had they guess two thousand
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and three and it was two thousand and seven. You
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: guts two thousand and seven. This is actually two thousand
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and three. There was two hundred and ninety thousand shot
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of two thousand and three, and for reference, there was
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: only one hundred and seventy thousand shot in twenty twenty four.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Wow. Unbelievable, Yeah, so unbelievable. Yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: So, anyhow, it's late October, and what are you most
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: excited about or what are you keen in on for
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the next week?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Oh man, So so this week finally had bucks that
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: were starting to move on to our properties. So I'm
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: to kind of give you a rundown. I'm hunting a
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: lot of egg land. It's preferably for rifle hunters, the
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: gun hunters of the world, but it's it's what I
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: have access to, and I enjoy bow hunting it a lot.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: It's a challenge, but I absolutely love it. Finally this
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: week the deer kind of started moving. They're hitting scrapes
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: a little bit more. I sent you a couple of
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: videos this morning of deer that have been coming around,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: and it's it's looking up. But actually in two days
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I'm headed to Illinois for a hunt, and nice from
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: what those guys are saying, the deer are moving and
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: there's a good cold front hu the way, so really
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: hoping that we can connect with one. Hanging out with
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: the stay grounded boys down there, and so yeah, the
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: next week, it's just hoping that nothing daylights on camera at.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Home when I'm gone.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: But I'm really looking forward to getting back and just
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: hopefully having some deers start to move in a little
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: bit more, be a little bit more consistent, and then
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: hopefully connect with one before rifle season.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So you leave for Illinois in two days. How long
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: are you planning the state down there?
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: So I'll be in Illinois?
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I mean realistically, I told them I can be there
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: for about six days, about a week, and then I
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: got to get home to the wife. And so it's
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: either a shoot one right away and come home or
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I'm there all six days and get skunk and then
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: come home.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: So okay, So what is your mental game plan going
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: into that? You know you're traveling, so you got to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: figure out things kind of on the fly. I'm sure
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: they've done some scouting. I'm sure they have cameras up.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: But as you're you know, you have some time to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: think about it. What are you What are you gonna do?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: You got six days to trying to.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Make it happen. Yeah, oh absolutely. So obviously at home
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: it's been slow.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know what, man, I got to
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: kind of just get my mind on Illinois. Just look
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: forward to being out there hanging out with some of
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: our partners multi partners that is. And I mean like
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: they shared their cameras with me through the app, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: I'm looking on there, I mean every single day and
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like dude, this just brings my self confidence down
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: so much about hunt that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: So many big deer in Illinois.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: There's just and I mean, they set up the properties
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: perfect for what they're doing, and so they've got a
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: lot of a lot of blinds. I don't know how
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: many like actual stand setups they have, but I know
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: they've got a lot of great blinds that will probably
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: be hunting out of hunting egg fields for the most part.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: But yeah, they've They've had a couple of really nice
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: dear come off of those properties already this year, and
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: so I'm really looking forward to getting out there.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Are most are you anticipating most of those blinds? Are
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: they set up on falt food plots, like green food sources,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: staining beans, sanding corn, Like, what's kind of that setup
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: look like to focus on food?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as I know, basically, I was on
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: the phone with Tanner yesterday and he was telling me
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: like they had just cut like a strip of corn,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: so they're leaving some standing corn and whatnot, and then
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: they've got a couple mock scrapes set up right out
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: in the middle of these cut fields, and I mean,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: like it is prime set up for deer hunting like
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: it's the best of the best.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Sweet.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: So if you were staying in Minnesota from October twenty
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: second to October twenty ninth, you know, historically, what are
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: some things that you're really paying close attention to looking
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: at the extended forecast, I mean, you know, temperatures are
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: seeming to get back closer to normal. But what would
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you be if someone was struggling right now and they're
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota, you know, agland, hedgerows, fence rows, What has
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you most excited for the next seven days?
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so right now, I mean honestly, right now, it's
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: waiting for harvest to be over, and we're probably if
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: I had to guess, sixty percent through corn harvest now,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: and it seems like the bucks have just all kind
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: of moved over and they're they're hanging out in the corn,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: getting as much as they can before it's off. And
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: then so if you're hunting egg land, I mean I'm
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: sitting in sometimes rows of like four trees and like
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you got to just get lucky. I mean, I'm sitting
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: in white oaks, and they're typically coming over, these deer
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: coming over to feed on the acorns because there's not
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: that many food sources or standing food sources left that is.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And then you talk to I mean buddies. I have
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: buddies that are hunting hardwoods in southern Minnesota and then
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: eastern Minnesota and uh northern Minnesota, like different areas all
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: over the country, and it seems like those guys that
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: are hunting hardwoods, the deer are hitting scrapes like crazy,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: whereas like over in the more open egg land where
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: I'm hunting right now, a little bit slower. But then
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: once things start heat up, right around Halloween is typically
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: when it's like guns are crazy, and for us it's
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: just so good. It seems like the deer are starting
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: to cruise a lot more, maybe got that pre rud
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: activity going on. And then I mean like first week
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: in November and then into rifle season, it's that's typically
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: when the deer are on the move. And so honestly,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: I would say just be in the stand, like if
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: you can get work off, if you can time a
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: cold front right, if you can be on a food
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: source that's still standing, find where the food is, if
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: you've got a water hole, I mean, that's probably even better,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: especially during the rut. But yeah, go to those key
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: sources and then just get in a high traffic area
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: for the rut.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: How far I mean, over the years that you've hunted,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just pictured. I've never hunted there, but I'm just
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: pictured in my head. You know a lot different parts
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of the Midwest. How far do you think the line
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: of movement is for some of these bucks for the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: later part of October where there's maybe not a ton
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of betting opportunity and they're laying downsign on these edges,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, do they do how far can you see it?
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: How far do they move? And so?
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: So Okay, so to give you kind of a visual,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: So I'm hunting, probably the typical spot that I'm hunting
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: is about eight hundred acres and there's probably I don't
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: know ten acres of wooded area on that piece, but
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: it's basically around a whole swamp. And so the deer,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, they cruise it hard during the rut, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: that's typically the only time we see the deer cruising
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: on her property. So if you're a rifle hunting, you'll
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: see them from a far away. But when you're bow hunting,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: you're just sitting there anticipating that hopefully they're going to
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: come to that food source that you're sitting on within
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: those four trees, or you're hoping that they're going to
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: come and sit in within those trees in the betting
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: areas that I'm sitting and by so I'm trying to
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: sit pretty close to the betting areas.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have spooked coupled year before.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: But I mean at that point you're just trying to
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: risk it for the biscuit and get in there, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: all day sits can be super beneficial for those reasons.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I think back over the years, you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: for these next ten days October twenty second to the
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: end of October, so call it nine days has been
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: a really productive time for trail camera inventory. Buck showing
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: up And what was one tip or trend you have
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: noticed with a buck that shows up this time of
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: year on a camera on a scrape that you maybe
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: haven't seen before earlier in the year. What advice do
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you have or what things would you tell someone to
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: key it on.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so this is this is actually wild.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: So the deer that I sent you this morning, he
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: has only been on camera three times throughout this year.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: He showed up like once in July, once late September,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: and then just this morning. And so he's a deer
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: that showed up last year mid October, same exact timeframe.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: So really it's if you have trail cameras, and if
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: you don't, I recommend you get them. Just get them
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: out there. Put them on scrapes, put them on high
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: pass routes. Go look for trails that you you can
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: clearly tell that deer are traveling. And I mean, you
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: really never know when these deer are going to show up,
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: especially during the rut. So get those trail cameras out.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Don't don't I would say, don't, don't mount them too
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: high or anything like. Put them put them on a
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: spot where like you know you're gonna get that camera
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: to trigger.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of guys where they're like, man,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I put a.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Camera out and it hasn't triggered at all, and then
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: you end up seeing like it's at about human head height,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: where it's like it should be at about waste height.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: And that can ruin a guy's season because he's like, well,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I'm basing it up off my trail cameras.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: There was nothing there.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I didn't go out so it's like, get as many
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: trail cameras and as he can out there, pay attention
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: to those obviously, but then also get in the stand,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: because I mean, you could have a trail camera right
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: there and the deer could walk behind that tree and
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: you're never gonna know that that deer existed. So I
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: would say, yeah, get the trail cameras out, but also
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: get in the stand.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: And one thing I would say too is don't be
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: discouraged if you get in the next when you listen
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: to this today, maybe you got a picture of a
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: deer last night that was one o'clock in the morning,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: eleven o'clock at night, three o'clock in the morning, and think, oh,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: he's two miles away. He might be, but a lot
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: of times in the next ten days, twelve days, oh yeah,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: pretty good chance can be run around there in daylight somewhere.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: And so that's the excited thing of that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's where I sit here too. I'm like,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be in Illinois for allegedly six days.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: So if I get one of these bucks daylight and
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: the shown up in the mornings, I know he's going
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: to bed not far away. I mean that just eats
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: at because you know that that deer is somewhat close
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: and he might daylight at night. Not a guarantee, but
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping that that doesn't happen. But at the same time,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: it'll be reassuring and it'll definitely make me want to
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: get home. But yeah, I mean the property is out here,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: the egg land. There's a bunch of egg land that
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I'm hunting. And then of course these bucks are pretty
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: honed in on basically a twenty to thirty acre piece
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: on our neighbor's property, and they just they feel safe there.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: There's pines all over it, there's everything they need, and
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: it's just once the rut gets here, then they start
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: traveling trying to look for does a little bit more
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: and that's where I can hopefully find my luck.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I like it so looking at the weather and also
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: time of year, because I think that's a factor. Now,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: on a scale one to ten, where do you put
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: this next seven day stretch, and let's say ten is
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the best week of the entire year, one being the
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: worst week of the entire year, where do you put it?
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: I would say next seven days would be I would
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: rate it as like a as like a four. It's
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: more like I would take it as like an observation
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: sit leading up to uh, basically Halloween week and in
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: the rut, see what the deer movement's like, see how
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: they're acting, seeing if if the doors are acting any different,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: if there's any bucks that are kind of starting to
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: detail dose a little bit.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: It's possible.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: I've seen guys sharing trail camera photos and videos right
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: now that have bucks and stuff kind of dog and dos,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: which is crazy.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: But I'd say probably about a four.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: And then I mean leading up to Halloween Halloween week,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: I would say you're getting closer to that nine to
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: ten range.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Well, Benny, good luck in Illinois and good luck in Minnesota.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: It was a pleasure, and I encourage everyone to pay
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: really close attention to their cameras. If the batteries are dead,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: go get some batteries and put a solar panel them.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Do what do you need to do? Because wait all year?
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Where there intel? And you mentioned the deer showing up,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you know a year later. Really important to get key
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: intel this time of year because it might help you
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: next year too.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't help you this year, absolutely.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Here you guys have it. I hope you guys enjoyed
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: this episode. And this is my last piece of advice
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and tip from hunting white tails and scouting and being
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: out and about this time of year. Have a floater
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: trail camera or two. What I mean by that is,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: if you find hot sign, you find a scrape that
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: you have not seen before. Maybe it's in a bottom,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: maybe it's on an edge of betting, maybe it's on
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a field edge.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you that it's going.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: To be a key place for intel throughout the month
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: of November through the remaining part of October. That might
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: be one of the most important pieces of scouting that
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you can do passively by hanging a camera. So make
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: sure you have a floater camera with you when you
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: go out and hunt, you scout, switch batteries, whatever you do,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: have one or two floater cameras and put it on
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: hot sign and it's going to help you.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: That is it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: We will see you next week on Rough Fresh.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Good luck,