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Steve Price | 13 September · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the program. I'm James
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  Speaker 2: Macpherson filling in for Steve Price.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up to.
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  Speaker 2: Ending big on last year's Gay Pride party. So what
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  Speaker 2: do you think he did this year? New financials reveal
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  Speaker 2: he went even bigger. Ossie soldiers stripped of their medals
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  Speaker 2: over us in Afghanistan. Former Queensland Premier and Army Major
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  Speaker 2: Campbell Newman will join me and the first civilian spacewalk
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  Speaker 2: in history one small step for Elon Musk, one giantly
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  Speaker 2: for mankind. Astrophysicist Brad Tucker will explain why. But let
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  Speaker 2: me begin tonight talking about the violent protests we've seen
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  Speaker 2: in Melbourne this week. The rabble protesting weapons of war
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  Speaker 2: can only stage their idiotic protest because we have weapons
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  Speaker 2: of war. But you think the Melbourne protesters are smart
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  Speaker 2: enough to realize that if Australia was to lay down
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  Speaker 2: its guns this afternoon, we'd all be speaking Mandarin by
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  Speaker 2: dinner time, and then where would the protesters be. The
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  Speaker 2: freedoms these anarchists are using to protest are only possible
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  Speaker 2: due to the military defense of democracies such as Australia.
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  Speaker 2: But of course you'd be wasting your breath trying to
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  Speaker 2: explain that to the protesters. When did you ever meet
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  Speaker 2: a pro Palestinian supporter, or a Climate Karen for that matter,
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  Speaker 2: who had a firing neuron. The scenes outside the Landforce
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  Speaker 2: Weapons Expo this week have been disgraceful. Masked protesters hit
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  Speaker 2: police horces, through manure at offices, through acid at officers
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  Speaker 2: and set fire to property, all in support of peace.
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  Speaker 2: These people, encouraged by Green's politicians, set out to cause violence,
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  Speaker 2: all the while claiming to oppose violence. Their hypocrites of
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  Speaker 2: the first degree. His little tip, in my opinion, peace
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  Speaker 2: protesters don't wear scar that are associated with the mus terrorists,
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  Speaker 2: nor do peace protesters assault police. Green's foreign affairs spokesman
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  Speaker 2: Jordan steel John used social media last week to call
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  Speaker 2: on his lemmings to protest against the expo, describing weapons
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  Speaker 2: manufacturers as merchants of death.
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  Speaker 3: In armed Melbourne.
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  Speaker 4: These merchants of death are coming together to sell their
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  Speaker 4: wares and to try to persuade our government to buy
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  Speaker 4: these things from them.
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  Speaker 2: So what does the senator suggest we buy to defend
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  Speaker 2: ourselves against foreign adversaries fairy dust love bonds. Can you
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  Speaker 2: imagine Jordan steel John representing Australia on the world stage.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust him to make a sandwich that alone,
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  Speaker 2: speak on foreign affairs. And forget merchants of death. The
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  Speaker 2: Greens are merchants of weapons grade bs. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: China would be more inclined or less to invade Australia
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  Speaker 2: if we had no weapons? US would be more inclined
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  Speaker 2: or less to invade Europe if our allies laid.
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  Speaker 3: Down their weapons of death.
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  Speaker 2: Green Senator David Shubridge was outraged that police pushed back
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  Speaker 2: on the protesters here.
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  Speaker 3: He was speaking today.
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  Speaker 5: This is Melbourne in twenty twenty four, and who would
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  Speaker 5: have thought that the state government here to protect arms
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  Speaker 5: manufacturers would be putting rubber bullets and stun grenades, police horses,
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  Speaker 5: catsican spray and teargats against their own people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who would have thought? Police? Would you know? Police violence?
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  Speaker 3: It's a funny thing, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: We've watched har mass in the Middle East expect to
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  Speaker 2: be able to behave with impunity and then become outraged
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  Speaker 2: by completely legitimate response from Israel. In the same way
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  Speaker 2: the so called peace protesters in Melbourne provoked, provoke and
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  Speaker 2: then play the victim. Imagine being surprised that when you
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  Speaker 2: throw horsepoo at police they don't respond with a friendly hey,
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  Speaker 2: how you doing?
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  Speaker 5: That was an obscene, obscene actions of excessive force by
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  Speaker 5: the Victorian police. And I am astounded that there's not
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  Speaker 5: a single politician from Labor or coalition who are at
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  Speaker 5: least troubled by that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Greens are really concerned about excessive force
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  Speaker 2: used by Victorian police, can I just ask where were
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  Speaker 2: they during the freedom protests a couple of years back?
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  Speaker 2: Remember during the pandemic when Victorian police used rubber bullets
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  Speaker 2: to shoot citizens who were doing nothing more than protesting
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  Speaker 2: against lockdowns. And do you remember what the Greens had
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  Speaker 2: to say about that? Nothing, nada, not a word.
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  Speaker 3: Crickets.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the mums and dads who thought Dan Andrews curfews
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  Speaker 2: and travel restrictions were wrong, well maybe they should have
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  Speaker 2: been wearing kafirs. Maybe then the Greens would have been sympathetic.
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  Speaker 2: And what about the violence we've seen from the rabble
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  Speaker 2: this week? What did David Shubrich have to say about that?
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  Speaker 5: Mine is a party whose core pillars include peace and nonviolence.
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  Speaker 3: Two things.
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  Speaker 2: If yours is a party of peace and nonviolence, why
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  Speaker 2: do so many of the people aligned with your cause
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  Speaker 2: seem to breach the peace and resort to violence. Now,
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  Speaker 2: journalists noted how Senator Schubridge avoided condemning the protesters, so
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  Speaker 2: they asked him again, what was his position on the
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  Speaker 2: violence we've seen over the past few days, And again
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  Speaker 2: his answer was clever.
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  Speaker 5: I have made it clear, and I'll say it again.
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  Speaker 5: My party is a party of peace and nonviolence, and
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  Speaker 5: we oppose violence in any political gathering. One of the
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  Speaker 5: reasons I'm here is to oppose the violence that none
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  Speaker 5: of you seem interested in covering that flows from the
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  Speaker 5: international arms industry.
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  Speaker 2: How can you claim to be a party of peace
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  Speaker 2: and nonviolence when you studiously avoid saying anything about the
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  Speaker 2: violent antics of many.
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  Speaker 3: Who support your cause.
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  Speaker 2: The events of this week raised some uncomfortable issues for
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Elbanezi. First, when we he cracked down
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  Speaker 2: on the lawlessness that's been allowed to fester on our
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  Speaker 2: streets under his watch since October seven. We've watched with
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  Speaker 2: horror as thugs have been allowed to intimidate, harass and
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  Speaker 2: bully citizens on university campuses in our streets.
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  Speaker 3: Around the nation.
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  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has been largely mute and rabble rousers
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  Speaker 2: have been emboldened. Second, it's become pretty obvious to me,
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  Speaker 2: if it wasn't already, that the Greens are a dangerously
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  Speaker 2: subversive group who have no intention of supporting our democratic values.
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  Speaker 2: One of their Victorian MPs skipped Parliament to ride her bike,
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  Speaker 2: of course, down to the protests this week in support,
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  Speaker 2: and when things turned violent, the MP Gabrielle did Vettri
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  Speaker 2: retweeted this astonishing explanation, I quote, the only reason there
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  Speaker 2: was violence today is because Victoria police showed up. If
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  Speaker 2: they hadn't, then protesters would have raised their signs and
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  Speaker 2: chanted and heckled arms dealers.
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  Speaker 3: And that's it. What an incredible argument.
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  Speaker 2: If only the police hadn't shown up, everything would have
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  Speaker 2: been fine. That's how the Greens think. If only police
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  Speaker 2: would abandon the streets of Melbourne to their supporters, then
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  Speaker 2: they could create the city of their dreams.
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  Speaker 3: A vote for the Greens.
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  Speaker 2: Is a vote for a hate field country that sees
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  Speaker 2: violence as the means to an end whatever they have
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  Speaker 2: in mind. South Bank in Melbourne was a pretty ugly
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  Speaker 2: place this week? Is this what Australia would look like
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  Speaker 2: under a Labour Greens coalition? That the ALP would ever
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  Speaker 2: contemplate partnering with the Greens in any form on anything
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  Speaker 2: is reprehensible. If the PM cares a jot about social cohesion,
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  Speaker 2: as he claims to, then he should declare that he
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  Speaker 2: will not deal with the Greens under any circumstances.
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne is a great city.
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  Speaker 2: It deserves a lot better and so does our country. Now,
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  Speaker 2: before we get into all the news of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to show you this video of a young
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  Speaker 2: boy named Liam.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Liam reportedly suffers from a rare brain disorder and growth
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  Speaker 2: hormone deficiency.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was Liam's.
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  Speaker 2: Eighth birthday this week and he received a letter from
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Have a look at his reaction carefully.
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  Speaker 6: Can you read it?
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  Speaker 3: Hellow sure?
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  Speaker 7: It says, Dear Liam, Happy eighth birthday, Missus Trump, and
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  Speaker 7: I hope you enjoy this special occasion surrounded by the
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  Speaker 7: love of your family and friends. We are so encouraged
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  Speaker 7: by the strength and determination you have shown throughout your
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  Speaker 7: young life, and send our love and best wishes to
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  Speaker 7: you as you continue to fight. Remember you are never alone,
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  Speaker 7: and we are keeping you in our thoughts in prayers
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  Speaker 7: for continued health, for continued care and good health. May
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  Speaker 7: God bless you and your family. Stay strong. Sincerely, Ca
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  Speaker 7: Tims and sign that.
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  Speaker 6: He knew was your birthday coming up?
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  Speaker 7: What do you see to him? He yell?
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  Speaker 8: I love real.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good reminder, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how difficult things might be for any of us,
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  Speaker 2: there's always someone else who's doing it worse, which means
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  Speaker 2: we can and should always find something to be grateful for.
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  Speaker 2: And second, it's amazing how a small gesture, even for
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  Speaker 2: a complete stranger, can brighten someone's world or even change
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  Speaker 2: it completely. So good on you, Donald Trump, and happy
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  Speaker 2: birthday to Liam.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Let's return to those disgraceful scenes in Melbourne over the
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  Speaker 2: last few days where anti war and anti Israel protesters
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  Speaker 2: targeted the police, the media and delegates at the Landforce's
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  Speaker 2: expo demonstrating against violence were hurling feces, hitting and pushing
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  Speaker 2: police and their horses, and harassing anyone they even suspected
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  Speaker 2: might be attending the expo peaceful protesters. Today was the
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  Speaker 2: final day and the activists didn't let up, with one
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  Speaker 2: woman cementing her arm to the back of a car
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  Speaker 2: on the King's Way Bridge. For more on this, I'm
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  Speaker 2: joined by Victoria's Police shadow Minister Brad Baton. Brad, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for joining me tonight. A chaotic few days for Victorian police.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to start by getting your assessment of
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  Speaker 2: the behavior that we've seen over the past three days.
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  Speaker 2: Not from the police, we'll talk about that in the moment,
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  Speaker 2: but from the protesters.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, good evening, James. The protests have been absolutely horrendous
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  Speaker 9: and the first and foremost so I must say, we
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  Speaker 9: were expecting so many thousands. They kept talking up they
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  Speaker 9: had twenty five thousand coming in and we haven't seen
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  Speaker 9: numbers anywhere near that. And I think that's because they've
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  Speaker 9: gone out there effectively people knowing that they're going to
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  Speaker 9: be violent. We've spoken about this in Parliament all week.
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  Speaker 9: You don't turn up to peaceful protests with padlocks and
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  Speaker 9: marbles to throw under horses and acid in containers to
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  Speaker 9: throw out Victoria police. That's not a peaceful protest. I'm
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  Speaker 9: all for people have been able to have a peaceful protest.
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  Speaker 9: We think that's just something we should be welcoming here
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  Speaker 9: in Victoria. But when we see the scenes that we're
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  Speaker 9: seeing now where people continue to go out and harass
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  Speaker 9: and be violent on the streets in Victoria, Innocent people
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  Speaker 9: have been caught up the animal welfare, for the horses,
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  Speaker 9: for the Victoria police. Victoria Police don't go to work
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  Speaker 9: to become punching bags. They're there to protect our community.
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  Speaker 9: And there's a group in our community who continue to
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  Speaker 9: go out and pushed their message in a violent way
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  Speaker 9: and we should not and never will accept it. From
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  Speaker 9: my side of politics.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandal,
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  Speaker 2: has called for an inquiry into the police tactics and
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  Speaker 2: what she describes as excessive use of force during the
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  Speaker 2: protests this week. Federal Green Senator David Schubridge has also
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  Speaker 2: raised concerns what do you think about the police response.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they've acted appropriately or have the Green's
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  Speaker 2: got a point?
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  Speaker 9: First of all, for David Shubridge up in Canberra to
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  Speaker 9: come out and make his comments kind of say that
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  Speaker 9: is an absolute disgrace. The Victoria Police will work with
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  Speaker 9: the area they've got. They'll always try and keep the
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  Speaker 9: community safe. We have seen the circumstances here where they've
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  Speaker 9: reacted to a violent group of people on the streets,
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  Speaker 9: people bringing padlocks, bolts, these sort of things to throw
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  Speaker 9: out the Victoria police. They come in, they punch them,
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  Speaker 9: harassed them. We've seen the way they harassed innocent people.
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  Speaker 9: I would welcome an inquiry, and the reason i'd welcome
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  Speaker 9: it is hopefully out of it we'll see criminal charges
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  Speaker 9: from those that have assaulted police here in Victoria and
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  Speaker 9: continue to get away with it. That's what I've like
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  Speaker 9: to see come out of it. And for the Greens
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  Speaker 9: member in Victoria who decided to put onto her social
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  Speaker 9: media not just the result after, but prior saying all
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  Speaker 9: we've got left is disruption. She's incited that violence because
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  Speaker 9: it suits her political agenda. She should be held to
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  Speaker 9: account for that as well, whether it's in Parliament or
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  Speaker 9: in a court of floor, if she's insided violence here
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  Speaker 9: in the state.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen sickening attacks on the mounted police unit this week.
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  Speaker 2: Protesters squirting and irritant up the nostrils of police horses,
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  Speaker 2: and as you said, they bought marbles which they spread
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  Speaker 2: on the ground to make the horses lose their footing.
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  Speaker 2: But this, I mean, I don't know what to say
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  Speaker 2: about this. It just gets more and more ridiculous. After
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  Speaker 2: all of that, we've now got protesters from Peter that's
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  Speaker 2: the animal rights group saying they want the police horse
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  Speaker 2: program to end. So we've got protesters abusing horses, and
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  Speaker 2: then those same protesters and others with them saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's why we shouldn't have police horses.
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  Speaker 3: What your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 10: What a joke.
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  Speaker 9: Victorian police use those horses only in exceptional circumstances when
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  Speaker 9: it comes to protests and violence. And the Victorian police
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  Speaker 9: horses are trained amazingly, And I said, I'm a former
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  Speaker 9: police officer, I know how important is when they turn up,
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  Speaker 9: you feel like you're protected. The staff on those horses
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  Speaker 9: well are exceptionally trained to control the crowd in the
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  Speaker 9: most nonviolent way possible. If you actually go and watch
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  Speaker 9: these protests from the start, those horses will be standing
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  Speaker 9: stationary and only moving forward if there's a threat coming
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  Speaker 9: towards others in that community. What we're seeing is people
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  Speaker 9: throwing things at them, harassing them. I'm amazed non elice
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  Speaker 9: forces have bitten, jumped, or hit into some of these people.
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  Speaker 9: The reality is the horses have been handled very very well.
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  Speaker 9: To call for an end to that would actually see
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  Speaker 9: more violence on the streets because they're an amazing tool
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  Speaker 9: the Victoria Police have to use. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 9: give credit to the management of Victoria Police. They've handled
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  Speaker 9: this and the preparation for it, in my view, so
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  Speaker 9: well that they have actually managed to prevent any really
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  Speaker 9: massive issues coming in. We've seen some assaults twenty seven
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  Speaker 9: police up until the last time I saw, but the
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  Speaker 9: police manageer have handled it very well, including the use
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  Speaker 9: of those horses at the right time.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, I just wonder how many of the protesters, you know,
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  Speaker 2: pushing up against and assaulting essentially those horses, turn up
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  Speaker 2: at the Melbourne Cup protesting horse racing because it's cruel
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  Speaker 2: to the horses. I bet there's quite a crossover there. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I want to change topics for a moment and talk
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  Speaker 2: about energy. There's been a six month investigation into the
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  Speaker 2: devastating storms that hit parts of Victoria in February. That
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  Speaker 2: investigation has concluded finding there was seven hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: million dollars worth of damage caused a million homes lost power.
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  Speaker 2: That's when six transmission towers collapsed. There was a major
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  Speaker 2: five hundred killer vault transmission line that failed. Clearly there's
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  Speaker 2: some work to do with Victoria's energy network.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't want another storm like that.
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  Speaker 2: What lessons have come out of this investigation for Victoria Bred.
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  Speaker 9: The reality is, James, we nearly saw a recent storm
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  Speaker 9: where we started to see these issues and power losses
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  Speaker 9: through some of the areas that I represent. I'm in
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  Speaker 9: Burrick and we go up through the Daniel Loong Ranges,
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  Speaker 9: so we are going to see that again. The issue
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  Speaker 9: we have is our infrastructure is so outdated and there's
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  Speaker 9: just no money there for the maintenance of any of
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  Speaker 9: the infrastructure across the state. We need to make sure
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  Speaker 9: that this infrastructure has the investment. So we don't see
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  Speaker 9: exactly what you're seeing on the screen here where towers
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  Speaker 9: effectively have just fallen over from the winds that have
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  Speaker 9: come through. We need to make sure they're reinforced. But
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  Speaker 9: the government has known about this for many years. There's
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  Speaker 9: been reports that there's risks to our power supply if
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  Speaker 9: we have massive storms, but there's been no money or
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  Speaker 9: funding on a long term basis to ensure that we've
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  Speaker 9: got the maintenance program over a long period of time,
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  Speaker 9: or in areas we're required having alternative options, whether that's underground, etc.
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  Speaker 9: So there needs to be a full and formal review
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  Speaker 9: on exactly what needs to be spent. We know it
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  Speaker 9: can't be spent in it twelve month period, but to
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  Speaker 9: have a ten year or a fifteen year rolling plan
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  Speaker 9: so we can have that maintenance program, so we can
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  Speaker 9: have reliability in our energy, protects businesses, make sure people
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  Speaker 9: at home have got the power they need and deserve,
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  Speaker 9: particularly in a state that wants to ban gas, they
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  Speaker 9: want to make sure electricity is working one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Brad Batton, I appreciate your time tonight. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: federal labor government is determined to crack down on what
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  Speaker 2: it calls misinformation and disinformation, which, as we all know,
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  Speaker 2: just means things they don't like. If the government was
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  Speaker 2: really serious about stamping out lies, let's start with themselves. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: their latest bill to censor what you and I can
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  Speaker 2: freely say is likely to hit some hurdles, with legal
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  Speaker 2: experts critical of revisions to the bill, and the coalition
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  Speaker 2: likely to oppose it likely.
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  Speaker 3: To oppose it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see why they wouldn't oppose it. They should
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  Speaker 2: oppose it. Some of the criticism stems from the definition
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  Speaker 2: of serious harm and of course the obvious impediment on
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  Speaker 2: freedom of speech. For more on this, I'm joined by
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  Speaker 2: former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Campbell, great to have your
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  Speaker 2: company tonight, Thanks for joining me. National Senator Matt Canavan
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  Speaker 2: has been very vocal online about his opposition to this bill.
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  Speaker 2: He's pointed out that the bill would criminalize anyone who
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  Speaker 2: says anything that would cause serious harm to the government,
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  Speaker 2: or to health measures, or even to the banking industry.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle Rowland, she says, the legislation is about protecting our
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  Speaker 2: democratic way of life. Do you think that's what it
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  Speaker 2: does or do you think this legislation is inherently flawed.
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  Speaker 11: I think it's the most disgraceful, sinister, odious legislation that
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  Speaker 11: I have ever actually seen in my life. And I
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  Speaker 11: would line this right up there with the early days
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  Speaker 11: of the Third Reich and the things that the Nazis
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  Speaker 11: did to get control of German society.
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  Speaker 1: This is really sinister stuff.
• 19:00
  Speaker 11: Matt Canavan is dead right, and so is Elon Musk,
• 19:03
  Speaker 11: who's actually called the Australian government a group of fascists.
• 19:07
  Speaker 11: He's dead right. I mean, we could spend a whole
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: half an hour on this, mate. I know you don't
• 19:13
  Speaker 11: have the time, but like, let me try this. They
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: take this definition of serious harm and immediately serious harm
• 19:20
  Speaker 11: is defined as actually harm to public health in Australia,
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: including to the efficacy of preventative health measures in Australia. Well,
• 19:29
  Speaker 11: during the COVID crisis, people like myself were vocal in
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: saying that the measures that were being taken were draconian,
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: over the top, indeed hysterical, that they would damage mental health,
• 19:44
  Speaker 11: that they would damage the education of children, that they
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: were discriminatory in terms of the way different Australians were
• 19:50
  Speaker 11: treated with different means. And you know what those of
• 19:55
  Speaker 11: us have said, those things were right. But if we'd
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: been posting that on social media under this LED, I
• 20:01
  Speaker 11: guess the actual platform would have been a lot of trouble.
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: I guess we might have had a lock on the door,
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: a knock on the door as well. And I mean
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: another sort of thing that Canavan's pointing out is harm
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: to public confidence in the banking system or financial markets.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Well, you know you can drive a truck through that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: You could as a regulator as the cop on the beat,
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: you could actually go after people for all sorts of things.
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: I mean for saying, for example, that it looks like
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: there's a recession, or for saying I don't believe the
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: RBA know what they're doing, or the RBA have gone
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: too far and they're crushing the economy, as the Treasurer
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: said a few weeks ago, if he'd said that on
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: social media, would somewhoat have been after him. I mean,
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: that's the problem with this stuff. It's really how it's
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: then implemented. We can have all the sort of assurances
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: in the world from those who are putting this forward,
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: and of course they're in the way of all tyrants
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: throughout history.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: It's for your own good, it's to keep you safe.
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: All those arguments they're fraudulent, They're they're quite transparently obviously fraudulent,
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: and we should all be ringing our local member of
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: Parliament or looking up Michelle Roland, the minister who's put
• 21:16
  Speaker 11: this out. We should be looking up her number, her
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: email address for her office, and respectfully we should be
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: contacting them and telling them no to this. And by
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: the way, one final thing, you were just talking before
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: about the Greens and what they've done this week on
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: those protests. They could be taken to be inciting violence
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: and causing harm using social media under this legislation. So
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: of the Greens who have been cheerleaders for this sort
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: of repression, they need to think long and hard how
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: it might be used against them. That's the thing I'd
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: urge all sides of politics to look how it could
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: be used against them and what they're trying to say
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: in the future in our democracy.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It's a great point.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I got to admit I agree with you when you
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: listen to Michelle Roland talk about this legislation is to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: protect our democracy. I'm not quite sure how suppressing the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: freedom of speech helps to protect our.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Democracy sounds like a good way to end it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: We could talk about this the entire program, but there's
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: other things I want to get your views on, not
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: least of which the release of the Brereton Report into
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: alleged war crimes in Afghanistan. Now a number of current
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: or former Australian soldiers have had their war medals stripped
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: by Defense Minister Richard Males. Peter Dutton today criticized the
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: government for throwing lower ranked officers under the bus while
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: letting senior commanders off the hook for allowing such behavior
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in the first place.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Now, Campbell, you were an army major.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to get your view on what's happened
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: here and whether our diggers have been treated fairly or not.
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: Well, I guess my answer, James is I really don't know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: because the whole thing is so secretive, and I guess
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: on one sense it's about protecting people. But you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: surely they almost deserve their day in court. If they've
• 23:04
  Speaker 11: done something so bad that this stripping of the medals
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: can be justified, then you know, surely they deserve open
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: due process. As to people up the leadership chain, well,
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: they do have to take accountability for these things, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: maybe senior officers should be thrown into this whole situation
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: as well, but again only after we know the facts.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And that's what's always troubled me about this.
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: I just don't know, and I don't think we really
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: know what's going on, and we should know what's going on,
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: because the only way to deal with this, again in
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: a democracy, is to have an open sort of disclosure
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: of information and indeed a debate. But I'm certainly sympathetic
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: at this stage for people being stripped of awards where.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I just don't know what's happened and you can't write
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: in judgment.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: We're not doing well tonight, are We've got suppression of
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: speech and we've got a lack of transparency in the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: adf F. Let's see if we can win with this one.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: This is from the UK, Campbell, I want to ask
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you about this. Woke defense chiefs have ordered the Royal
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Marines in the UK to rename their training exercises to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: avoid offense. Now, some of the names on the chopping
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: block include final thrust, violent entry, and direct action.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: The concern being the terms were aggressive and that there
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: were sexual.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Connotations that could offend recruits.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Campbell.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: With the way the world is right now, they can't
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: be serious devoting attention to stuff like this and the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to end up with a bunch of snowflakes
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: defending the free world.
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Look, you know I was trained in the
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: Australian Army by people from the Vietnam Era, and make
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: no mistake, you know I was trained to apply lethal force.
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: Luckily for me, I never had to do that in
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: the real world. But that's what the military is all about.
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: And there comes a point that you know, the senior
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: military officers have got to push back to the politicians
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: and say, listen, do you want a defense force that
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: actually can fight and win on the battlefield or not.
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: And you know, I'm not advocating brutality, but I'm advocating
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: that people need to be prepared psychologically for a career
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: in the military where they might have to take lives
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: and commit violent acts. That's what they have to do.
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: It is not a police service. Let's be very clear.
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: There is a huge difference between a police service and
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: a combat ready military.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And I think that the UK brass are just.
• 25:50
  Speaker 11: Really cowtowing to what they think they're political masters want.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly a worry the way we're going in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: all of our institutions at the moment. Campbell new I
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: always enjoy talking to you. Thanks for your company. Tonight,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: well still to come. Tonight a major milestone for Elon
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Musk's SpaceX and space exploration more generally, are we're getting
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: closer to life on Mars and up next the showdown
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that still has the world talking, Donald Trump, Kamala Harris
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and the pop star that could change the course of
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the election.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: It's coming up in just a month. Welcome back.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Well more than sixty seven million Americans tuned in to
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: watch the presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: this week. Now, a lot of people were saying Harris
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: won the debate, but I reckon that's only because the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: expectations on her were so low. To be fair, the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: expectations were low on Joe Biden in the first debate.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: He just had to prove he was alive in order
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to be judged a winner, and he didn't do that,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and so he was gone. Kamala Harris, well, she just
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: had to not cackle like a hyena with adhd and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: avoid talking in riddles in order to be judged a success,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and amazingly she managed to do that, and so she
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: was judged the winner. For more, I'm joined by Sky
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and News contributor Kosher Gada Kosher, thanks for your company.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: No sooner had the debate ended than Harris was calling
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: for another one. But Donald Trump, well, he said today
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: there won't be another debate. So I got to start
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: by asking you who's got more to lose by not
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: committing to another debate?
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: I think Kamala Harris actually has more to lose by
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: not committing to another even though conventional wisdom would say
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: she did better and she could replicate that she continued
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: to grab the momentum that ostensibly she got a little
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: bit of after the other night. But she has more
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: to lose for a few reasons. One is she's not
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: hasn't shown any depth around policy positions, and so why
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: give her another venue to do that? If she wants
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: to do that, she has to kind of fight that
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: to do that herself. She's had ample time to debate.
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: She's rejected NBC and CBS and Fox and all other
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: venues that were offering it to her. Her team was
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: micromanaging with the microphones and negotiating details till the very
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: last minute. So why reward that type of a team
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: with this type of venue. Let her go out and
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: just do more interviews is one. Two. I think it
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: takes the shine away from the vice presidential debate that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: going to come, and I think that's actually going to
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: matter more than it typically does for many reasons of
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: how those news cycles are going to be driven. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: three is Trump is not shy at all with media,
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: so without a debate, he is still doing press conferences
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: and rallies and long form podcasts and all sorts of things,
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: so he can really suck up the oxygen for the
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: next sixty days, where she is not going to be
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: inclined to do that, and so there's no reason for
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: Team Trump to hand her another very friendly venue such
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: as what happened. Let her go out there and find
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: media outlets herself.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Interesting The contrast during the debate between the two candidates
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I found very interesting.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris was all smiles and.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Of course she's projecting joy because that's what she's bringing,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: whereas Trump came across as slut the irritable, I thought,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and he even admitted as much.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: He was his explanation.
• 29:06
  Speaker 12: People said that I was angry at the debate angry.
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: I was angry, and yes, I am angry because he
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: allowed twenty one million illegal aliens invading our communities.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Many of them are criminals. They said, he's an angry person. No,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: they're destroying our country. I don't like she's smiling all practice, right,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: did you see it? She's like it. We're talking about
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a border invasion.
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: The likes of which no country has ever suffered, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: she's like this.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Kosher.
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: He makes a great point, he does, you know, this
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: is classic Trump, and it reminds me of something he
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: did in twenty sixteen when he was facing a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: of opposition from the Republican Party during that primary and
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: when he was clinching the nomination, and I think it
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: was Nikki Haley who was sort of alluding to how
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: we need to not be angry and we need to
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: be unifying without mentioning Trump, and he gave a very
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: similar speech that no, Actually, I think righteous indignation, righteous
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: anger is exactly what is the appropriate reaction right now
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: given the direction of the country. So he's sort of
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: bringing that trick back out. And he's also somebody who's
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: the master of driving media cycles and taking what was
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: a little bit of a lackluster performances. I think most
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: of his supporters thought and were disappointed in the debate,
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: but driving the residual value of things or flipping the
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: narrative away from the negative to something favorable to him,
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: And I think it does make a good point that
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: we've got serious problems and you need a serious leader
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: and anger is the appropriate emotion. So he's sort of
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: reframing the whole narrative.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, so post debate, we've now got pop star Taylor
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Swift endorsing Kamala Harris for president. Reports show there've been
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: more than four hundred thousand visitors to the voter registration
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: website since she posted her support for Kamala Harris. How
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: much is taalers swift endorsement really worth. I mean, she's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: made her fortune singing about all her bad choices.
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, So there are two lenses through which to look
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: at this. One is Taylor Swift as a messenger, as
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: an opinion influencer. I don't think it matters that much.
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: You know, the people that listen to her are likely
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: to be swayed by what a thirty four year old
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: pop star says are people that were always going to
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: be either non voters or in the Democrat camp anyway. However,
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: the second lens where I think this could be a
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: factor is in the nuts and bolts of voter registration
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: which you alluded to, and her ability to build a
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: database off the back of her cotored sales and ticket
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: sales of hundreds of thousands of people that are not
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: likely to be voters in the US where we don't
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: have mandatory voting, and then coupled with the Democrat machinery
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: that's very good at acquiring ballots or turning out low
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: propensity voters out of that database. And if they can
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: squeeze out ten twenty thirty thousand people who otherwise wouldn't
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: have voted, swifties to do so in the swing counties
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: of swing states, it actually could be a factor. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: I would not discount the importance of this, and the
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: other side would be wise to figure out how to
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: combat that and drive order registrations on their own side
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: to counter this effect.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Kosher, just quickly, do you think anyone considers the fact
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that you tell us Swift she's a billionaire, she's not
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: worried about grocery prices, inflations, really not a problem that
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: the border crisis and illegal immigrants. I mean, she would
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: live in a very secure gated community, no doubt she's
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: got security. So you know, Kamala Harris, another four years
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: of Democrats really isn't going to make her life much
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: more difficult?
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: Not?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: At all?
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: Rules for thee and not for me. And I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: whether it's her, the Hollywood set, or any of these people.
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: They really epitomize how out of touch they are with
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: what's happening with the real people in Springfield, Ohio, and Aurora,
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: Colorado and all those places that get pointed to and
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: got pointed to in the debate. She's completely living on
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: a from playing field, and that's why I think as
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: a messenger, it's not going to get cut through, or
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: if anything, it could boomerang against those middle of the
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: road voters that are hurting and that she can't relate to.
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: It's just about the mechanics of driving. Voter registration is
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: the only place where she has value nothing beyond that
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: about her persona. I think we'll carry through with the
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: very day American.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Here's my hot tip.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris will lose the election and then Taller Swift
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: will write a number one song about their toxic relationship
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and allow that's how that's going to end. Kosher, appreciate
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: your time tonight, Thanks for joining me. Well, we've talked
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: about Victoria, we've talked about Queensland, we've talked about America.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Where should we go next? Why don't we get out
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: of space and get the details of the world's first
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: ever civilian spacewalk Elon Musk's company SpaceX, ventured seven hundred
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and thirty eight kilometers above the Earth's surface before billionaire
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Jared Isaacman stepped out of the Dragon capsule to tell
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: us all about it. I'm joined by astrophysicist Dr Brad Tucker. Brad,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: thanks for your time tonight. Can you just explain to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: me this spacewalk how significant is it?
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: Look, when we.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Talk about spacewalks and EVAs, this is one of the
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: most dangerous parts of space travel. You're literally being exposed
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: to the vacuum, emptiness of space, and if something goes
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: wrong there, something goes really terribly wrong, very quickly. And
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: so previously this has always been a limited part of
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: space travel and one that only highly trained actionauts have done.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: And what SpaceX is trying to show is that there's
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: advancements in technology that will allow less trained people to
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: prepare for this harsh part. But also as part of
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: this mission, they were testing a new way of doing this,
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: meaning the SpaceX capsule it never really done this sort
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: of thing in terms of depressurization into space, and the
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: space suits have never really been tested like this. So
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: in order to advance SpaceX's own technology and goals, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: not way necessarily for NASA. They are showing all in
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: one mission that a private group and civilians so to speak,
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: can test equipment in space and not needing a national
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: agency to do it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So it's one thing to go into space, it's another
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: thing to do the walk, which really what I was
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: kind of expecting them to walk, but really they kind
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of just popped out of the capsule right and sort
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: of looked around.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: So but anyway, I'm not belittling it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how much preparation would have gone into that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: for those on board. I don't mean going into space,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: but I mean going into space and then to pop
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: your head out of the capsule. How much preparation goes
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: into that part, especially for a civilian.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, you know, and firstly, as you said, they
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: didn't really walk around, and that's partially because that a
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: crew dragon is not even design to have it. On
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: the space station. They literally have like rails that you
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: can climb on. It's almost like monkey bars, so there
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: is nothing really to hold on the outside, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: if it's slippery out there, and so that's part of
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: the preparation only spent that ten minutes each for the
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: two of them kind of waving around and looking. But
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: the entire process just alone was an hour and a half.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: And that is because the entire capsule depressurizes, so on
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: the space station there's air locks, so the most of
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: the space station is still sealed and only a little
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: room is depressurized. You go in and then you can
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: exit out and do your EVA. Here, the entire capsule
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: had to be pressurized, but you also need to balance
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: it with your suit pressurizing, so you kind of have
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: to have the right balance of the capsule depressurizing and
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: then your suit making up for that difference to keep
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: you safe. So there's a lot of that transition. But
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: then there's the mission takes enough time. It takes over
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: two days just to get to that point, so there's
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: a lot of these other things that they had to
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: do in that transition to get ready for their space travel.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: And then they're also in this very radioactive part of
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: space we call the Van Allen Belt, partially to test
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: some space medicine. So there's a lot that they had
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: to go through, especially as a person who's never really
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: done space.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Or been into space.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty amazing feat. And to think this is
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: not NASA, this is a private company doing this is
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: quite incredible to behold. Hey, I appreciate you joining me
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: tonight and giving that explanation.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Well after the break.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Why would you want to be invited to a party
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: planned by Kevin Rudd? I don't know, but geez putting
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: on some big ones in our embassy in the United States.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Plus a bunch of teenagers are hoping to be elected
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in upcoming local government elections. But would you vote for
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a nineteen year old? I'll put that to our Friday
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: panel in just a moment. Okay, lots more to get
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: through tonight, so let's bring in the Friday Panel joining
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: me as small business Women Australia founder Amanda Rose and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Skynews contributor Gary Hardgrave.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Great to have both of you with me. I want
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: to talk to you about Kevin Rudd. How can we
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: not talk about Kevin?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: He's putting on more parties in our embassy in Washington, DC.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: A pride party now. He did one last year. It
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: cost twenty thousand dollars.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: He copped a lot of criticism for at Amanda, but
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: do you reckon he's learned his lesson. No, no, he's
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: doubled down. This one cost seventy thousand dollars. We've got
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: drag queens, we've got pride balloons.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Is it money well spent?
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: He can do what he likes at his Party's just
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: not with my money, right, so not with tax payer money.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: And we're in a cost of living crisis.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: And the amount of.
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: Money he's spent at that party is someone's wage for
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: an entire year to support a family. Now, I'd like
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: to see him pay that back with his own personal income, which,
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: mind you, he gets paid a lot of money already.
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: And this is the classic case of what happens when
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: people don't say, for example, a business owner understands the
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: value of money. I feel like we need to treat
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: him if we were a teenager, to say you've got
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: to do your chores before you get your money, because
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: they're just spending other people's money, which is very easy
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: to do.
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  Speaker 3: Gary, can you.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Believe Amanda's talking about labor politicians understanding the value of money?
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to ask you this, seventy thousand dollars
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: it seems to me like money well spent to keep
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Kevin out of the country.
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: Well, that is the only compelling argument, James, that anybody
• 39:13
  Speaker 13: can put. But this is a bloke who's never run
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: a milk bar. This bloke has been on the government
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: teat his entire and I use the word very generously
• 39:20
  Speaker 13: working life. This guy has always been relying on government money.
• 39:26
  Speaker 13: It's just the reality. I actually think the Prime Minister
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: should recall him. I honestly believe he should be sacked.
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: I think he's shown himself to be a complete embarrassment
• 39:34
  Speaker 13: on multiple fronts, on multiple occasions. He has no relationship
• 39:39
  Speaker 13: with Donald Trump will certainly not one that's going to
• 39:42
  Speaker 13: be unimpeachable if Trump was to win. And I'm with you, James,
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: I believe Trump will prevail because you can't have the
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: other person. But look, you know, this bloke really is
• 39:52
  Speaker 13: is past these years by date.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: People resent him.
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: Earlier today, standing in a supermarket here in suburban Brisbane
• 39:59
  Speaker 13: listening to two two older Australians looking at the price
• 40:02
  Speaker 13: of the meat in the meat locker at the supermarket,
• 40:05
  Speaker 13: and they said, you know what, I think I'm going
• 40:06
  Speaker 13: to become a vegan, said one woman. The other woman said, yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 13: I can't afford to buy any of this either. Yet
• 40:11
  Speaker 13: this bloke blows seventy grand on this party. Bring him back,
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: recall him, and let's just never hear from him again.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Go away, Kevin.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I reckon we should just end the show on that note, Garry,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: because I reckon that is exactly what most of us
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: we're not going to.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: You got to do a bit more yet, but great point.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Local council elections are taking place this weekend in New
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: South Wales and there's been a wave of teenagers standing
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: for election, the youngest of whom is nineteen years old
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and she's standing in Penrith where the Liberals forgot to
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: enroll any candidates, so it's almost guaranteed that this nineteen
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: year old will get onto council. Amanda, I've got twin
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: nineteen year old boys. I love them dearly, but there
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is no way in hell that I would vote for
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: them to be in local government.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Would you vote for teenager? See?
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: The reality is I believe that you deserve to have
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: a platform to have a voice. Yes, right, and there
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: needs to be more mechanisms put in place for that. However,
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: if you look behind it, you will never find a
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: nineteen eighteen twenty year old in politics without a seventy
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: year old behind them encouraging them, you know, pretty much
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: dictating what they should stand for and not stand for,
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: because it's very factional, and let's face it, that's what
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: it is. Even though they're eager and I believe in
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: them and they deserve to have a voice, the reality
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: is they're so young without experience, so they're going to
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: believe anything that anyone tells them at this age, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: usually leaders of factions take advantage of that manipulate them
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: into those positions, so they just look like they're having you.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, So you're going there's someone behind.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: The scenes, always someone Gary, one of these candidates, a
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: nineteen year old, amused me. This young person said, it's true,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I don't have any life experience. It's true, I don't
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: have much knowology, but I've got a lot of passion.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: And I thought, oh no, the only thing worse than
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: ignorance is ignorance with passion.
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: Yeah, but she's also probably in the Union. So you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: there's a lot of people who are much older than
• 42:10
  Speaker 13: nineteen in the Australian Parliament making very deliberate decisions right now,
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: who have never done anything else but be in the
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: Union movement and then become a member of Parliament.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: So look, I know, I know it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: Blake who was twenty when he was elected to council
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: in Southeast Queensland the following election.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: This is Blake Jacob Heromaira.
• 42:28
  Speaker 13: I give him a shout out. He was elected unopposed,
• 42:31
  Speaker 13: so he actually went on and did a really great thing.
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: But there were some older heads around him. There are
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: exceptions to the rules. I will not be agist. I
• 42:39
  Speaker 13: was once labeled earlier this year by some members of
• 42:41
  Speaker 13: the Young Liberals here in Queensland as being closer to
• 42:44
  Speaker 13: death than to be aged eligible to be in the
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: Young Liberal movement. That age's comment was published in The Australian.
• 42:50
  Speaker 13: I am not going to be agist. I'm not going
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: to rule them out. But my father just another little anecdote.
• 42:57
  Speaker 13: My father's big brother is long gone. He was actually
• 43:00
  Speaker 13: a counselor in Penrith thirty forty years ago, and a
• 43:06
  Speaker 13: Liberal counselor. I'd like to stress and they're old. I
• 43:08
  Speaker 13: don't go wrong. I'm sure he wouldn't be. He'd be
• 43:11
  Speaker 13: less than amused to see a nineteen year old getting
• 43:14
  Speaker 13: up without any contest but that's the that's the fiasco
• 43:17
  Speaker 13: of the New South Wales Liberal Party the night unfortunately.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Indeed, Hey, I want to show you both a video
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: that I saw this week and I found it fascinating.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: We've been talking about curtailing freedom of speech, but this
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: video shows a couple of teenage girls and they're being
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: interviewed and they're asked how many genders there are?
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Now, I want you to have a listeners. They try
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: to work out.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Gary, it's not them trying to
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: work out how many genders there are, it's them trying
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to work out whether or not they should answer the question.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Honestly, have a look at this.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, how many genders are there?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's too because we've seen it on camera.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: But I feel like you either switched from a boy
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: to a girl or sometimes voice ups ups up.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter whatever
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: you want to be.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: It's fine, it's okay, Amanda, what do you think watching that?
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: So no one's telling them what to say.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But these kids who look like they're like thirteen fourteen,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: but they're acutely aware.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: You need to maintain the narrative.
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: Well, That's a classic piece for anyone that doesn't believe
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: that we're turning into a communist society because people are
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: hiding what they feel, what they think. Everyone deserves to
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: have a voice, everyone deserves to believe, think and be
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: who they are. But the fact that young girls are
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: saying don't say that, regardless of what it is, regardless
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: of what it's saying, don't say that because they're worried
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: about what will happen to their careers, what will happen.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: The government will lock them up, they'll get fined, they
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: will be but whatever that is, communism to the call.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: And people need to wake up and realize that if
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: we keep letting legislation through, and if we keep voting
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: in people that allow this to happen, we will literally
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: be like the USSR where you're dobbing your neighbor for
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: growing your own food and get a into prison for
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: doing so.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Gary.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: A few years ago, I was seeing the cafe with
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: a mate and we were just talking about certain aspects
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: of Christianity which we agree with, and my friend said
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to me, do you realize that when we started this conversation,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: we both leant forward and lowered our voices so no
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: one around and we realized, we think we live in
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: a free country, but we were self censoring.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: We were very aware, even.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Subconsciously, this is a real problem in workplaces and universities.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Is it not? Well, I think it is.
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: And you know, we had the Union campaign about bringing
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: a whole self to work. In other words, if you
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: like to wear a dress and you're a bloke, you know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: bring that to work. And then we have sexual harassment
• 45:39
  Speaker 13: and rightly so problems in workplaces. So the whole thing's
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: all all over the shop, and it is sad. It
• 45:45
  Speaker 13: is sad, the uncertainty. And I saw the full clip
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: of that and the young girl, one girl said rightly,
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: you know, look, people can be what they want to be.
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: I kind of believe that that's true. They can be
• 45:55
  Speaker 13: what they like to be. But to the point of
• 45:57
  Speaker 13: free speech, I just simply say, there's try getting eggs
• 46:00
  Speaker 13: from a rooster and try getting milk from a ball.
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: I mean, the two genders have kind of got us
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: to where we've got to.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: But if you want to.
• 46:07
  Speaker 13: Identify as something else, have a nice day, but don't
• 46:11
  Speaker 13: penalize me for you know, saying that I identify as
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: a bloke. And I'm a male, and you know, I'm white,
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: and I'm a little bit older than some other blokes.
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: So I mean that we should be able to say that, James,
• 46:24
  Speaker 13: You know, that is just simple reality. Try getting eggs
• 46:28
  Speaker 13: from a rooster, Try getting milk from a ball.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: It's real simple.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: And that's how this radical gender theory is spreading. It's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: not spreading because people believe it. It's spreading because people
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: aren't allowed to say anything to the contrary, and so.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Everyone just assumes, oh well, they'll just go along. Hey.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the way we use indeed, speak of the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: way we use words, I reckon of all the English words,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the word discrimination has been probably demonized more than any.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: The principle of Liverpool Boys' School in Southwest Sydney has
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: referred to single sex education is quote a discriminatory structure
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and promised to merge with a neighboring girls school. Principal
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Michael Saxony said, and I quote single sex schools are
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: really a discriminatory structure. Not sure how they comply with
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: discrimination laws now, I would say to that other discriminatory
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: practices include purchasing a Ford over holden or eating thaie
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: rather than Italian Amanda. A single sex school is discriminatory,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: but we discriminate all the time, don't we.
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: I'm all for choice. So I went to a co
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: ed school up until year ten, and then I went
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: to a single sex school for eleven or twelve, and
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: I just want to thank God that I did because
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: at the time, I wanted to focus on my studies.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: I want to focus on what I was doing, and
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: the boys were being a little just distracting and annoying.
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: And I have brothers, so I know what they're like.
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: But people need choice. So what we don't want is
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: the public school system to all have co ed and
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: therefore people cannot choose. You know, there might be religious reasons,
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: there might be other personal reasons, whatever it is, we
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: need to have options. And the fact that they're just
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: I mean, I would say they're probably being paid to
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: do this, or they're getting funding, or something is going on, because.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely ridiculous just to.
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: Throw that word around when families and girls and boys
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: deserve to have choice.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Gary just quickly, we've only got a few moments left.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: But do you reckon this principle? Have single sex bathrooms
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: in his co ed school? Or is that discriminatory as well.
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: Colex, exactly is he going to do a Tim Wolson
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: put the tampons in the boys' bathroom?
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, on it goes, you know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 13: And seriously, people, I've been saying this for a long
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: time on this network, when I first went on Paul
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: Burry's show, like about fifteen years ago, whenever it was
• 48:40
  Speaker 13: you know, the biggest growth industry in Australia are those
• 48:43
  Speaker 13: who want to be offended on behalf of others.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: You imagine you are absolute scriminating, absolutely correct.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I got to finish there because that's all we've got
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: time for. But appreciate your time this evening.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you watching, Thanks for your company. But stay tuned.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Primetime with Delika de Giorgio is coming up in just
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a moment.