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MNF Recap, 3-2 Teams in the AFC & Week 6 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ Rhett
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  Speaker 2: and our good friend Bucky is back from London.
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  Speaker 3: Buck.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, congrats on a successful trip there for
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  Speaker 2: you and your Jags. Two wins over there in London.
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  Speaker 2: How is how is this latest bounce back trip for you?
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  Speaker 4: The latest bounce back was pretty good. I would tell
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  Speaker 4: you that it's.
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  Speaker 5: Probably not ideal to land in London at ten am
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  Speaker 5: the day of a game, do the game and didn't
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  Speaker 5: fly back.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of what I had to I had to do.
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  Speaker 4: But I can say that now that I know.
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  Speaker 5: I think the Jaguars are going to start doing this annually,
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  Speaker 5: like two games, maybe the back to back thing.
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  Speaker 6: So I got got to get used to it might
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  Speaker 6: be the thing. Oh boy, we talked about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: We talked about it last week, like if they beat
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  Speaker 6: the Bills, man, what a moment this will be for
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  Speaker 6: this season and let's see if it propels them?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, essentially we'll talk about the jack lady. But
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  Speaker 5: it was like a mini training camp. They got to
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  Speaker 5: b wait ten days, got to get together, kind of
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  Speaker 5: get everything right, and then they feel like they should
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  Speaker 5: be good going forward.
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  Speaker 7: And are you supporting the Jaguars with your with the
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  Speaker 7: print on your shirt today?
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  Speaker 3: D Is that what you're what you're doing.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a it's a Jaguar combination.
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  Speaker 2: It's charge it's Chargers colors, but it's Jaguars print. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like kind of you know, look, it's me and
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  Speaker 2: Bucky just kind of coming together, combining forces right there.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have you know, I almost made a part of
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  Speaker 2: his shirt on last week. Very close, it very very close.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, look at you.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, all right, let's let's get to Let's get the
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  Speaker 2: last night's game. Let's start there. Raiders get a much
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  Speaker 2: needed win in a game that was not necessarily pleasing
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  Speaker 2: on the eyes the Packers.
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  Speaker 8: They come up short seventeen thirteen buck.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much you got a chance to
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  Speaker 2: see them, see, but I think one yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: one of the biggest takeaways is just it's just the
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  Speaker 2: fact that man Jordan love for all the the chest
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  Speaker 2: bumping and thumping that our buddy Nebil was doing as
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  Speaker 2: a Packer fan after the first couple of weeks and
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  Speaker 2: has not looked great as of late.
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  Speaker 5: No, it didn't look great. Three interceptions yesterday. This team
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  Speaker 5: is just it's just off in terms of just style
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  Speaker 5: of play and the way that I thought they were
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  Speaker 5: going to play with the running game kind of leading,
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  Speaker 5: it came having to make plays.
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  Speaker 4: Just couldn't get it done, ran around, threw it up.
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  Speaker 4: It just made some bad plays.
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  Speaker 5: And really it was kind of reminiscenced to his final
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  Speaker 5: season at Utah State where.
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  Speaker 4: He had some egregious turnovers.
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  Speaker 5: But that turnover right there, I don't know what Nobill
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  Speaker 5: could do because I would have been pulling my hair out.
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  Speaker 4: But just a lot of bad just bad, just bad ball.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, especially I mean like they should have
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  Speaker 7: gone they should have been going in for the win.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that should have been a touch a touchdown
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  Speaker 7: for the Packers to take the lead to Christian Watson.
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  Speaker 7: That ended up being an interception. He was just late
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  Speaker 7: on that throw. Now you need to get pressured a
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  Speaker 7: little bit, I think, and Watson was open early and
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  Speaker 7: then it just you know, he tried to throw it late.
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  Speaker 7: I think at that point, you know, you just kind
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  Speaker 7: of take that thing down and live to play.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 7: Yet I think it was third, so they had another
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  Speaker 7: shot after that point, but it ends up Meek Robertson,
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  Speaker 7: my fellow Louisiana comes up with a huge play, a
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  Speaker 7: really nice interception in the back of the end zone
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  Speaker 7: to seal that thing for the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: But I think you got to talk.
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  Speaker 7: I mean this Max Crosby, you know, just continues to
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  Speaker 7: be probably the most relentlessly aggravating player and talented player
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  Speaker 7: all wrapped.
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  Speaker 3: Up into one in the league. Like I mean, the.
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  Speaker 7: Seven pressures he had essentially turned into plays that were
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  Speaker 7: either negative or very minimal gains. I think Jordan Love
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  Speaker 7: maybe scrambled out and got a few yards on one
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  Speaker 7: of the pressures he actually got. But the sack that
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  Speaker 7: he had was awesome because it reminded me of my
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  Speaker 7: childhood watching Walker Texas Ranger DJ. I know you can
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  Speaker 7: relate to that with Chuck Norris, right, yes, yeah, you
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  Speaker 7: know how when like at the end, at the end,
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  Speaker 7: Chuck would get into these epic battles right with like
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  Speaker 7: it would be him versus probably ten to twelve different guys,
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  Speaker 7: And I forget what his name was, Well, it's uh
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  Speaker 7: Cordell Walker.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was his name in the in the show.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so he's he like The best part about it
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  Speaker 7: was all of those.
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  Speaker 9: All of those looker I was trying to find the
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  Speaker 9: first name, okay, and so he he All those guys
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  Speaker 9: are super polite, right, They like wait their turn to
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  Speaker 9: get their their whooping from from Walker, right, And so
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  Speaker 9: I felt like, that's.
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  Speaker 3: What on that sack, you know, like they send.
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  Speaker 7: Like three layers of players at at Max Crosby, Joseph
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  Speaker 7: Josida Degar is the first one. He comes in and
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  Speaker 7: Crosby sets him down. And then the next guy is
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  Speaker 7: is Ben Simms, the tight end kind of synth comes over.
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  Speaker 7: He waits his turn and he gets some from Max Crosby,
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  Speaker 7: the running back, who was the third layer, He's like
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  Speaker 7: he just kind of bugs out. He's like, I'm good
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  Speaker 7: with this, and Crosby eventually gets the sund I mean,
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  Speaker 7: the dude, it's like you could put like multiple brick
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  Speaker 7: walls in front of him. He would find ways to
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  Speaker 7: break those things down on his way to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: It's just a lot of fun to watch.
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  Speaker 8: I was trying to remember in that show, what did
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  Speaker 8: Walker do? What was his profession?
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  Speaker 3: It was a Texas ranger. I think, yeah, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: a stranger.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, together.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, speaking of the first name, Yeah, goodness, gracious buck.
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  Speaker 2: A follow up question on that, now that we've got
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  Speaker 2: a chance to see the body of work. I'm always
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  Speaker 2: reluctant to do the Hall of Famer thing. But if
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  Speaker 2: right now in their prime, would you take Max Crosby
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  Speaker 2: or would you take Jared Allen?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good one. Uh, Max Crosby's been balling out
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  Speaker 5: of control. I think the difference is Jared Allen might
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  Speaker 5: have had a couple more double digit zack seasons at
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  Speaker 5: this stage.
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  Speaker 4: Max Crosby's definitely closing the gap. But right now I
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  Speaker 4: would take Jared Allen.
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  Speaker 5: But it's a nice comparison because Crosby's coming on like
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  Speaker 5: game Busters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a little I mean, they're both
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  Speaker 2: crazy long, and they both have unbelievable effort. I think
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  Speaker 2: Max actually bends a little bit better than.
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  Speaker 8: Did Jared did.
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  Speaker 2: Jared had just so many different so many different moves
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  Speaker 2: and so many different ways to win. But I think
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  Speaker 2: they're very similar in terms of just the length and
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  Speaker 2: the unbelievable energy and passion that they play with. And
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  Speaker 2: rhet You're right, he's he's somebody that is much attention
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  Speaker 2: as he does get. He deserves more because he's up
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  Speaker 2: there in that elite, elite group of edge rushers.
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  Speaker 8: In the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I want to throw up a board here
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  Speaker 2: so we can see these teams in the AFC that're
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  Speaker 2: sitting at three and two, because it's an interesting clump.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the Bills, got the Colts, You've got the Jags,
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens, and the Steelers.
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  Speaker 8: I think, especially if you look at you know.
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  Speaker 2: Ravens, Steelers, Bills, I think they're probably hoping they only
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  Speaker 2: had one loss on the in that column right now.
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  Speaker 2: But all these teams sitting at three and two, everything though,
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  Speaker 2: still feels like it's in front of them, is there?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of a you know, it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit above average obviously three and two buck, But
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  Speaker 2: when you look at it of that class of teams, Bills, Colts, Jagged, Steelers, Ravens,
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  Speaker 2: does it is there one team for you that's still
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  Speaker 2: above that and maybe is even.
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  Speaker 8: Better than what their record is.
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  Speaker 5: I would say this, and even though the Jackson with
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars knocked off the Buffalo Bills, I still feel like
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  Speaker 5: the Bills are a dangerous team, and they're dangerous only
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  Speaker 5: in terms of Josh Allen's ability to put this team
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  Speaker 5: on his back gives them a chance to knock off anybody.
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  Speaker 5: The game on Sunday against the Jaguars, the Jaguars were
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  Speaker 5: dominating the game, but you know, seventeen made enough plays
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  Speaker 5: to bring them back to put them in a position
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  Speaker 5: to maybe win the game.
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  Speaker 4: And when you have a quarterback like that, it gives
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  Speaker 4: you a chance.
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  Speaker 5: I am willing to maybe hold out hope that the
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  Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills can get hot because they have a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: with MVP capabilities.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I was kind of looking looking back at
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  Speaker 7: what the Bills have done in a couple of their
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  Speaker 7: losses this season, and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what, why are they sitting here at three and two?
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, why did they lose Week one?
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  Speaker 7: Why did they lose you know, Week five here against
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  Speaker 7: you know, why did they lose Louis five against the
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  Speaker 7: Jackson You know, you kind of go back and compile
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  Speaker 7: a couple of things from the season that they're feast
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  Speaker 7: or famine on defense. Right then, the number one sack
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  Speaker 7: team in football, right getting a ton of pressure on
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  Speaker 7: the quarterback, but they're giving up more explosive plays in
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  Speaker 7: the run game and the pass game than almost anybody.
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  Speaker 7: They're thirty first in the league and allowing explosive runs
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  Speaker 7: and explosive passes.
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  Speaker 3: So it just kind of feels.
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  Speaker 7: Like, you know, if they don't get home, they're giving
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  Speaker 7: up big plays, and that's part of why they're probably
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  Speaker 7: finding themselves in these situations where you know, you know,
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  Speaker 7: Josh Allen is feeling like he's got to go out
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  Speaker 7: there and you know, try to play some of that
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  Speaker 7: hero type stuff that you know, really for the three
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  Speaker 7: game stretch kind of worked out of the game, worked
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  Speaker 7: out of his game this year, and then you know,
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  Speaker 7: in a couple of other especially that opener, you know
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  Speaker 7: just felt like, you know, you kind of had the
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  Speaker 7: good and the bad with Josh Allen. But I think
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  Speaker 7: it is kind of a complimentary thing there where the
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  Speaker 7: defense has given up a bunch of big plays and
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  Speaker 7: they've had some attrition in the secondary too, right which
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  Speaker 7: your Davis wide out now, Matt Mlano's out, and you
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  Speaker 7: kind of wonder if that defense can continue to kind
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  Speaker 7: of hold serve moving forward here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still feel like in Buffalo to put a
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  Speaker 2: bowl on them. You've got the quarterback, you've got the coach,
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  Speaker 2: you've got the pass rush, like the rest of it,
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  Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to They'll be able to
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  Speaker 2: figure out. I think they could get on a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a run here. Buck your Jags. I think
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  Speaker 2: we're going to know a lot about your squad here
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  Speaker 2: once we get through this next month October. What they
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  Speaker 2: have left. They've got the Colts who are playing well.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the Saints coming off a huge win over
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots, who are a good football team. And they've
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  Speaker 2: got the Steelers who are in this club with them.
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  Speaker 2: So I think these next three games before they get
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  Speaker 2: into a stretch where you get San Francisco to start
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  Speaker 2: it off, I think this next three games the month
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  Speaker 2: of October is going to tell us a lot about
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  Speaker 2: the Jags.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, will tell a lot. Having been over in lond
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  Speaker 5: had a chance to talk with the coaches and the players.
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  Speaker 5: They're excited about what they were to get done in
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  Speaker 5: London because it gave them a chance to reset and refocus.
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  Speaker 5: It was really a mini training camp. They're away for
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  Speaker 5: ten days, didn't have the distractions of the city, no
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  Speaker 5: family around it, so they've really got a chance to bond.
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  Speaker 5: And the thing that it did it allowed to really
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  Speaker 5: get on the same level when it came to their
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  Speaker 5: trust in the level of accountability, when it came to
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  Speaker 5: holding their teammates accountable for their own individual performances. You
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  Speaker 5: saw a team that was more connected, a team to
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  Speaker 5: execute it better.
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  Speaker 4: And hopefully for all the.
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  Speaker 5: Jags, they're able to kind of take that and us
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  Speaker 5: as launchmore. But you're right, this next stretch with the Colts, Saints,
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  Speaker 5: Steelers bye week than Niners, you'll quickly see if the
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars are ready to be in that conversation as a
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  Speaker 5: contender or would they scuffe just to be a playoff
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  Speaker 5: contender this season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we go to the other team in that
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  Speaker 2: division that's on this list here, the three and two Colts. Guys,
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  Speaker 2: This Colts team, you look at it, that overtime loss
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  Speaker 2: of Pooka Naku with the walk off in the Rams game.
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  Speaker 2: They pulled that one out. They're sitting here at four
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  Speaker 2: and one, despite having to juggle quarterbacks and Anthony Richardson
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  Speaker 2: being hurt, Minshew stepping in looks like we'll get Minshew
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  Speaker 2: for a while now with that shoulder injury to Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 2: But they're look they're they're a good football team. They're physical,
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  Speaker 2: they're really good upfront along the defensive line as well.
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  Speaker 2: The two teams in the AFC North, let's start with
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers. Yeah, this is a Steelers team that when
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  Speaker 2: you look at it, it's not esthetically pleasing at all,
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  Speaker 2: but they're finding a way to win these ball games,
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  Speaker 2: really being kind of carried by their defense. I feel like, man,
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  Speaker 2: this has been it's been impressive. And you know they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be over five hundred because that's all Mike Tomlin does.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at the schedule coming up, I
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  Speaker 2: think the offense they're gonna have to do a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more at the Rams Jacksonville and then you you
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  Speaker 2: kind of get some some games are a little more
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  Speaker 2: uh in their favor. But to me, these next two weeks,
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  Speaker 2: they got to score. They got to get this offense
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  Speaker 2: clicking a little bit. It's not pretty well in DJ Buckley,
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  Speaker 2: what have we talked about a lot?
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  Speaker 7: What do we talk about going into the season about
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  Speaker 7: the Steelers. It was a commitment to upgrade the offensive
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  Speaker 7: line right, to get better up there, to draft Roderick Jones,
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  Speaker 7: and he's actually I think he had his best game
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  Speaker 7: of the season this past week after barely playing in
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  Speaker 7: the first three weeks, so they put him out at
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  Speaker 7: left tackle, and I think he's kind of starting to
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  Speaker 7: rock and roll a little bit. Now here's the thing
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  Speaker 7: that kind of, you know, makes you scratch your head
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  Speaker 7: a little bit, is this is a team that's still
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  Speaker 7: sixty two percent pass right, and if you're going to
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  Speaker 7: make that commitment to the offensive line and you're going
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  Speaker 7: to try to, you know, get things back to playing
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  Speaker 7: Steeler football, find a way to run the football a
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  Speaker 7: little bit here, right. I mean they've scored five touchdowns.
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  Speaker 7: You know how many of them come on the ground
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  Speaker 7: zero and their yards before contact it's less than one
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  Speaker 7: right now, So Najie Harris is having trouble getting going.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you go back to the Browns game, it
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  Speaker 7: was that negative a yard, right, so they were in
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  Speaker 7: you know, the the Browns defensive front is in the
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  Speaker 7: backfield before they could even get things going beyond the
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  Speaker 7: line of scrimmage there. I feel like for this Steelers
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  Speaker 7: team to really kind of continue making some hay and
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  Speaker 7: because we saw, like you give George Pickens an opportunity
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  Speaker 7: one on one, Kenny Pickett's gonna put it out there
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  Speaker 7: for him right, saw that at the end of the
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  Speaker 7: game against the Ravens. But they got to find a
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  Speaker 7: way to control the game with the run a bit more.
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  Speaker 7: It just it feels like that's that's their formula. It
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  Speaker 7: kind of always has been. It should be their formula
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  Speaker 7: moving forward, and then still have that threat of the
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  Speaker 7: explosive pass game.
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  Speaker 3: Buck.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, because this defense is good enough
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  Speaker 5: to kind of keep them in the conversation.
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  Speaker 4: But it's the offense that has to get up to speed.
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  Speaker 5: We're looking for more of the offensive line domins at
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  Speaker 5: the point of attack.
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  Speaker 4: Want to see more Naja Harris being able to run it.
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  Speaker 5: But really this is going to come down to Kenny Pickett,
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  Speaker 5: his performance in the play of the perimeter playmakers. We
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  Speaker 5: have seen him kind of fall in love with George
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  Speaker 5: Pickens on the perimeter. We see what happens with NANNC.
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  Speaker 5: Johnson and some of these other guys. But this team
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  Speaker 5: not only has to be balanced, but you have to
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  Speaker 5: be able to find a way to generate explosive plays.
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  Speaker 5: The only way you score football score International Football League
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  Speaker 5: is you have to generate big plays.
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  Speaker 4: You need big plays to move and flip the field.
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  Speaker 5: The Steelers have to get the consistency of the running
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  Speaker 5: game while still making sure they generate enough big plays
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  Speaker 5: in the passing year.
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  Speaker 2: And when you flip it over to the other team,
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  Speaker 2: the last team will hit on here. The Baltimore Ravens
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  Speaker 2: sitting here at three and two again, they can very
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  Speaker 2: easily have ball goes here there. They could be sitting
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  Speaker 2: here undefeated. And as much as we've talked about how
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  Speaker 2: great the Steelers defense has been, the Ravens defense played
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  Speaker 2: really well as well.
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  Speaker 8: They want to give it up fifteen points a game.
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  Speaker 2: They're tied for second in the league, so they're playing
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  Speaker 2: great on that side of the ball. They got to
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  Speaker 2: catch it better. There's seven drops in that game last
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  Speaker 2: week against the Steelers. This pass game is still sitting
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: at twenty sixth buck. I mean, I think it's there.
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  Speaker 2: I would be encouraged of all these teams. I think
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: if I were the Ravens and that I think there's
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: more growth here.
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  Speaker 8: They haven't.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: They haven't clicked yet, and I feel like it's out
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: there for them. The players are there, they just got
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: to make them.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it hasn't clicked. You can talk about the seven
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: drop passes. I mean there's some bad drops, some high
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: school level drops from the wide receivers of the Ravens.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: And this is a team that is making really an
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: offensive shift, going all in with Lamar Jackson throwing the
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: ball all over the yard, and the biggest question that
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: anyone ever had, are they good enough on the perimeter
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: to be able to do it?
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: Right now?
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: It doesn't look like that. But the great thing about
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: the leave is there's time.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: There's time to develop, just time to figure it out,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: and maybe they can figure it out. But right now
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: it's been an underwhelming offensive performance due to really a
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: body passing it.
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was a I mean, we DJ
• 15:03
  Speaker 7: and I talked about it. It's on the Monday Pod.
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: It was just it was a comedy of theirs. You know,
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: started in the second quarter down in the red zone
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: with a you know, Mark andrews uncharacteristic drop, then Rashad
• 15:13
  Speaker 7: Bateman and then the the block punt Lamar's throwing and
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: ill advised uh you know, fade route to OBJ that
• 15:19
  Speaker 7: gets picked off and it just kind of snowballed on him.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: They're better than that. I think the Ravens are gonna
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: be okay. Here. I think they've got enough on defense.
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: You know, you start to get you get Marlon Humphrey
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: back a little bit more comfortable, you know, in the lineup,
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: and you know you've probably not seen him out there
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: on the island against you know, George Pickens, you know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: that way until he gets up to you know, wherever.
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: He needs to be one hundred percent because he went healthy.
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: He's one of the best in the game. So I
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: feel I feel like they're gonna They're gonna find a
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: way here Baltimore is to get this thing rolling. I
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: just I do kind of wonder kind of like the
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: Steelers outside of the Lamar Jackson run game, like can
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: they find enough with Justice Hill and with Gus Edwards
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: because it just hasn't felt that way for much of
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: this season with JK.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Dobbins out, Yeah, missing some of that running back production.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Still their fourth in the league because Lamar adding his
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: legs into that mix and still being such a big threat.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: We wanted to be healthy at the end of the year.
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: Go go ahead.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying, like wan to be careful with that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably a good idea, all right. Speaking of
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• 16:45
  Speaker 8: it's rookie Draft time. Spoiler alert. Bucky's doing well? Rets not.
• 16:49
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  Speaker 2: I'll plug there from Scottie Hansen. Last week, the rookie
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: draft went well for Bucky. He got three points from
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young. He also got three points from Puka Akua,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: so if he comes away with six, me and Rhet
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: we tied with three apiece. I got the eighth chan three,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: he got h one point. He's us the second place
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: finisher all the way down the board with Strouds, Spears
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and Flowers.
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: But by the way, huh Spears.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm going back through my notes from last week,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: and it looked like it took Gibbs there Red, So how.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: The heck did you get a plot for a guy
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: that you didn't even take it?
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: As it turns out, the injury report, Uh, the injury
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: report was updated a little bit as we got closer
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: to game time, and it turns out active, So okay,
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: So just like a good fantasy manager, subbed him out
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: and then subbed Spears back in.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: So don't worry about it. I'm taking care of it
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: so we can so we can do the waiver wire. Yeah,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I hit the wa Wait.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: A minute, were the first position on the waiver wire?
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I mean was the first?
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Well yeah, because I was the last release coming out
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: of last week, so I'm definitely first position.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Overall overall for the season, Buck is in a commanding lead.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Now he's in first place. I'm in second. I've got
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the ground to make up. And uh and Rett's just
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: trying to hey, you know, just trying to get back
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: these creative tactics that he's using.
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe that'll help.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Well, the good thing I'm I'm look, I'm I'm like
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Mario Chris Ball. I'm not gonna take me. I'm gonna
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: keep running the ball. So we'll see what happened.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I might fumble one, all.
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: Right, No Richardson, Yeah that was terrible.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: No richard this week. So we're gonna take quarterbacks off
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the table. We're gonna go back to what we've done
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, which is a tight end to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: wide receiver running back. As it turns out, I have
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the first pick, which the longer we do this rookie
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: drafted more, I'm realizing you don't want the first pick.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I'd rather be in that two hole because I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you've got a chance to get two winners there picking
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: in that second spot. Anyways, first pick I am going
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to go. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: b Jhon Robinson here with the first pick. I think
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he's been the first pick darn near every single week.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to go Bjon. I feel like that's
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a guaranteed three points for me.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: I need it. I gotta have it. Buck, you're up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, since you're going running back out of the gate,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go that because the running backs have
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: been a little inconsistent.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: So let's go with.
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: M oh.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: M. So did the Rams have by week?
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: Because no, they don't go by.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: They're playing Okay, So I'm gonna take So I'm gonna
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: take Pooka.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Let me take po take a work going Pooka.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, smart, smart, proof.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Uh well, I'm gonna just gonna go ahead and lock
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: up my three points now and get Sammy Laporta.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: In a tight end.
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, look at you, so got my not a
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: whole lot of the rookie tight ends making big time
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: impacts right now. So Laporta far and away the winner there,
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: So give me Sammy and then I will lock up.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I'm just I don't know if I can, if I.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: Can go Gibbs again and then have to, you know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: hit the waiver wire if he's not if he's not available,
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: So I don't I don't think I'm gonna do that.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: Great. It's a great luxury to have. It's a great luxury.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I mean it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: I am still first on the in the waiver wire priority,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: which is great. But I think in that light I
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: am going to I'm gonna end up going back to
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go back to the well. I'm gonna go
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: to j Spears.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, all right, Tozzie Spears. Great Tozzie Spears. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: am going to go because I get a running back.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go a little off the grid, but I'm
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: hoping that it pays off with me. How about Zach
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Charmona from the Seattle Seahawks, Me and my running back
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: Woo.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciated that because that allows me to get
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the tight end that I want as well as the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: receiver that I want. Uh So I'm gonna go. I'll
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: go first with Jordan Addison. Justin Jefferson gone. That means
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of balls going Jordan Adison's way. I feel
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: great about that pick. Although I will tell you if
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: it had fallen another way, if Bucky had gone receiver there,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I was gonna go with the tar heel with Josh
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Downs to get.
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: A new name in the mix.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: He was he was in the he was on the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: list there, he was third. But now I've got my
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: second guy. So I'm gonna go Jordan Adison, and then
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Dalton Kinka.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: He's on my list too, as it turns out.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Is it is gonna be my tight end there. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I come away with Bijon Addison and Kincaid. Bucky you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: are up next, Okay.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: So look, we saw him play a little bit last night,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: and I don't think the Ray, So I'm gonna go
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: with Uh, can I go with Michael Martin?
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Can I go with the Area the Yeah? Mayor, let's
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Michael Mayor.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we're all good.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I like, you know, Josh Downs, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: six catches on six targets last week from from Gardner
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: Minshew kind of wonder you know now that Gardner, you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: is back in the saddle here for the next couple
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: of weeks. If that that that target chair is only
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: gonna increase for Downs.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: So I'm liking that. Uh, but Zay Flowers, I mean it's.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: Just consistent and he's essentially the number one if she
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: catches the ball.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: He had out one hundred last week.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, yeah, give me give me Za here, Okay,
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: So I finish up with Porda, kaj Spears and say
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: flowers nice.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And unless something were to happen to any of these guys,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: maybe in the first quarter, second quarter, then you can
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: just make a call to Drew and then throw somebody
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: out in the mix.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: We definitely sub that. It's gonna be great.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: And I loved it. You don't have to go by it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: You don't have to run I guess drewis commissioner, but
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: you don't have to run anything by the board or anything.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Just a movie house.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: It's no question about it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: Today. That's fantastic. Good for you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: By the way, one name I want to mention here
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that we didn't draft, but it was in the mix here,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and I think if he plays like he did last week,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: he is going to end up getting drafted by US. Julia
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: McLoughlin for the Broncos, the running back. I went back
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and was looking through my notes on him because he
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: was out of Youngstown State. He's undersized a little over
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: five eight, one hundred ninety two pounds. He ran four
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: four to four the nuggets on him, huge production he's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: key can press and bounce. Had a big sixty four
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: yard screen against Kentucky, which is interesting because he scored
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: on the screen last week against the Jets. I say,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: this is a really fun change of pace back and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: if you think about Sean Payton kind of having that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: guy to use in the passing game, undersized, quick athletic.
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: You know, it's a long.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: List of guys he's had success with, going back to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: darren Sprolls probably the first one there. So a fun
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: player there for the Wroncos to keep an eye on
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: in the future. All Right, that's gonna do it for
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: us today. Fun rookie draft again. Bucky has got the lead,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: but we are chasing him down. I feel good about
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: my draft. I like my guys that I've got here,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: b Jon Robinson, Jordan Addison, Dalton Kincaid. Maybe this could
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: be I need a nine point week. Who knows, maybe
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that will get me in the mix here, try and
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: catch up to Buck. But again, appreciate you guys hanging
• 24:20
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• 24:21
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