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These Bucs Rookies Turned Heads During Minicamp · Hear The Cannons - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Podcast

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've got multiple, multiple players, and pressing early from Tammy Buccaneers, Rookie, Mini Camp, we're here to recap all of it.
• 0:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: What happened with Ruben Bane, Jr. flashes everywhere.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know we don't have the pads on, but he was getting to the backfield per our River Wells.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who was an attendance there also to Ted Hers.
• 0:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looks like he's got the size, he's got the build, he's got the motor.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, that's just to see.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm really I'm first off.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm jealous.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not home right now But I'm jealous that I wasn't there.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: A buck and ears rookie mini camp, but good morning here from Santa Cruz, California Over there as River Wells are lead editor at bucksamey.com over there in the St. Pete River.
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not jealous.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not jealous.
• 0:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But we have to come on here no matter what we talk about some buckiners rookie mini camp because I think there's a lot to take away I know it's only two days These guys aren't even in pads or anything But you get your first glance of what Jason Light and Todd Bowles went after in this draft and it's time to do some some quick Like over reactions.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'll have a little bit more of a better feel once we get in the training camp, but take us through I think the first day river and how that vibe went
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, first day is a lot of rookies and under the three engines and try out players getting the hand on the play looks right trying to figure out what they've got going on.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So as always, it's usually a pretty low key day.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the offensive concepts aren't super complex.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I took the top bowls we all did after the first day,
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, you know, it's going to be one of the hardest jobs to do is being a rookie quarterback coming in rookie many can't because you got to learn the entire playbook and you got to not only know your job, but everybody else is job to right so when you come to that, you got to think about like, wow, they have a lot on their plate so they did.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: decent to to to middleings for a day, you know, as far as accuracy goes far as doing that.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's to be expected, right?
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so even still saw guys like Ted Hearst shine for sure.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He caught the last pass of that rookie mini camp day one.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a nice little, you know, front right pile on catch from Jalen Daniels.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: we can't film during that time or tweet, but it probably believed me it was nice.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been getting a lot of work, you know, that hurts to be getting a lot of work.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been like a safety net for Daniels getting most of the reps, by the way, at quarterback.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely has been serving us kind of like a a really nice target for him.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been the guy I think I stuck out the most to me and rookie minigame so far is her probably which makes sense because he's an offensive player.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: The defensive line.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have pads on it's hard to evaluate them in a lot of respects, but wider severs you line up against the guy across me and you go and at her certainly seems to be doing that.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: What did let's go to because we won't let's talk room ban will tease you a little bit more for Ted Hurs because I want to talk further on him and I got some notes here for me See road at bucks in me dot com but room ban.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: What does he look like of course we got to have the interview process we sat down with him.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's different.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: What does he look like when he's got the shorts on he's got the jersey on got the helmet on and everything because
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: The video's I was watching, I mean, the dude looks like he's flying in that flexibility he showed off at Miami's pro day when others viral photos of him bendy, I mean, it's incredible.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he doesn't have the tallest of size, but what does he look like compared to other guys that are in this rookie mini camp?
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: his bend is impressive and you can't teach that, right?
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So doing hitting a sled, he's very powerful when he hits a sled.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's very agile when they're going around the ring, he gets down low and that's just natural talent.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when he goes up against these left tackles, obviously these are left tackles that are typically, you do have fake eyes to try out guys.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he, you know, he's extremely explosive.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He got some would be sacks in the back field quite a bit.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, in the first and second day, you can just tell right when his gets get off starts that he's in the back field and he's disruptive.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So as a player that you're really excited to see the pads on because like we've talked about first, especially the offensive and defensive line.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so hard to talk and evaluate those guys when it comes to not adds on so yeah I'd to see him, but you can definitely tell how explosive he is and how agile he is You know how powerful he is we're doing the sled drills and it looks promising so far It's just me, you know, but I think so far some returns are like, oh, you can you can see where's going
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's every action Monday, baby.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the best time to every happen.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're a little bit of a ways.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I say a ways, but it's really, it's going to be here before we know it.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be preparing for training camp one of our favorite times of the year to be out there for you guys, given our instant reactions to every single day.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I love it.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, I love it more and more once the pads come on, I agree with bowls.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've got to have the pads on, definitely when we're talking about the trenches, Rubin Bane.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just want to see Rubin Bane go against the guy.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: of the magnitude and you can't just say Ruben Bane's going to be already up that tier being able to go against the guy like Tristan worse, Lou Gettieke, but I just want to see to see the battles, just see how he works with how he grows throughout camp and also to get into the era of Tristan worse, what he thinks of a guy like Ruben Bane coming in as a rookie who had a really strong standout last season with the Miami hurricanes on that run where he's dominating, dominating big time games and honestly pushed the hurricanes to reach the national title against
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: things that I'm excited for is getting that get those damn pads on.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So at least just showing up, I was noting on here, Todd Bull said he already looks like he's in mid-season form.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He showed up and really good.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really good shape.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like it.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good shape.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really good shape and explosive.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like you said mentioned, got to the back field a couple times and
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we don't got the pads, so you can take, have too much of some of the reactions, but it's a good example.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't, absolutely, when it's this caliber of a player.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why not?
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, good stuff there for human being.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, now let's go over to Ted Hearst because I mean, this is all I was seen on Twitter.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Rick Straff in the Tampa Times also put on an article two this morning about him, but just going off of your,
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where I was really jealous because I wanted to see him in person, the size, you know, we see it on the highlights, the videos, and then whenever you see him in speed going in 11, 11, 7, 7, 7, 7, just before we get to the place he was making, what about his size when he looked like in person?
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is there a player that you could compare him to size wise or is he just by himself out there as that big, big man?
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's the favorite man.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, shout to our friend from Serbia here watching, I believe it's Siga if we pronounce that incorrectly.
• 6:43
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• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: L.B.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ladies and gentlemen.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So thanks for watching.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really appreciate you know having an international fans.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely pretty tall.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's got that six or six four sort of build, but he's he's a little skinnier So he's I think he he was like 210 coming out of coming out of the coma and so he's kind of like a slender But but pretty big body guy and he's quick, man.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's quick.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the biggest thing I think you notice he's very fast.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: He can he can hit those routes
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, once he gets going and some of these guys are covering him, if he can kind of get that first move on you, he's going so he's done a lot of individual receiving drills.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can see how well he can kind of track the ball.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was particularly impressed.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw him do like a deepball tracking drill or he had to come from the right side down the left and catch out the back shoulder and he was able to do that.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the early things I think are pretty promising.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And especially one of the things I wrote about my preview pieces for rookie minigame it was like when you have a guy who's an athletic freak like this and 10 hers is Yeah, you really want to like see.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, can he just show it amongst all these UDFA's and triathlon players and I think you did He was definitely the the biggest receiver target wise of the fair two days that we saw
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: For sure, some other guys did pretty well for themselves Dean Patterson from Jordan Tech also did well He actually was a trial player got a contract with the bucks because of that so they brought him one But he looks good, man.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He looks good.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty impressed and we'll see how it develops further training came in and once you get some other guys in there With who are on the team in Tampa Bay so some other corners that kind of go up against him one of one be fun to watch, but I like what I saw
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, you said Daniel's got to touch down like you had mentioned there with him.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what you could consider as touchdown.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're counting on it.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we're counting on it.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're counting on it.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's maybe for football freaks, like all of us here, man.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take anything we can get.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take anything we can get.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, I think now when you're saying speed, and I think you're detailing it well for us, but
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: How does he look in like those intermediate routes like how would his get off on the route when every he when the snap is had what is that Light because to me when we're watching some of these highlights a lot of them are like all right There's you get that second and third gear that's when he really gets going What is it like some of these shorter routes was a lot of this because where was Robinson put in Zach Robinson Where was he putting him out there and how is he kind of being utilized for the most part?
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely an X receiver and Tedhurst told us this before day two of rookie many can't.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: We spoke to him.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We asked him where you work and he said definitely that X spot.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that makes a lot of signs and then that's where we kind of Zach Robinson wants to have him and that's where he will play.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got a quick question here for us on that.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We are he says, how many UDFA did they sign this week?
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They signed four trial players.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they brought on Tarleton State, OLB, yes, here homes, they brought on Georgia Tech, why are you a Dean Patterson?
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that, went to sign Brenner and Tampa, so kind of home kind of for him.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: They brought on New Mexico State, running back Caterias, Calaway, and I wrote an article about this on books game day this morning, but they brought on Scott Daley, who was a long snapper.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: to try out player.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a long separate for the bears and the lions before that.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a competition there.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a special team's competition in Tampa Bay.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a one.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: That kind of goes to show you that this whole team's units get a revamp from the ground up right there.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're looking at everything.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: We saw Danny Smith out there from the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how was that?
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: How was that?
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: we thought he had a megaphone at some points.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You, you can hear him.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's so loud.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's so loud for hell.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Big departure from, you know, kind of Tom's a guy, sort of coaching style.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But man, yeah, he absolutely is.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's loud.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's getting those guys gong and constantly gum, where we got them.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: See you in the gum, but you know that it was there.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know that.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's sick.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I completely, we forgot Danny's out there now.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, you know, you can hear him.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I like Chris.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned, sorry, you know, exposition there for him and if everything goes well, I'm kind of curious to see what's going to happen with Ted Harris because they've got a mech of Booker.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got Jim Macmillan.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got Chris Godwin.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And where does he fit in with that with that wire-saving core, you know, in the rare times, we're going to have four wires in the field that will be pretty nice, right?
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you see, eventually going to make his way into that XRZ spot on the team.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see for now hard to tell because those are some really good wire-sivers that he's going up against.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you never know.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Once again, it's another wider receiver heavy room that you're going to have any camp with.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, I love it.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm spoiled.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're spoiled as viewers and fans.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You should absolutely have course of love.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: What you have in the widers, you remember after losing my heavens week, we know we understand, but you still have a lot of talent there.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: But also two, who's the most spoiledest baker, mother, effed, oh, he killed man.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that man.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: talk about freaking spoiled there and too adding into and the running back room, it can't its way and well coming in.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Baker likes what he has there with Kate on and that's a reliable target for him as well for the most part.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know there is Baker should be very happy going into the rest of this off season.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: What he's got with a guy like a Ted Hearst, I could maybe be able to step up.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a rookie.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can't put up those expectations so high on the guy coming in
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, once the buck strapped at her, you know, I think a lot of national people, including people here, and, well, you're in Tampa right now, but over there in Tampa, like, oh, wow, this could have been a steal for them, because they need to define somebody that can be a threat for them and the red zone, and this could be someone that could be that or develop into that a little bit more, because he is a go-round guy.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Baker is not, we've talked about this numerous times where he's not a big, deep ball threat.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: quarterback.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's something or his inconsistencies start to show.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Does he have an arm?
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he has an arm certainly for his size.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's impressive, but consistently that's got it.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to improve there.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very intrigued.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: When did you get a chance to on the quarterback's coach, Chandler?
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I haven't talked to him.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're actually talking to him tomorrow.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I believe tomorrow is offensive assistance at 1030.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we will be able to speak to Zach Robinson will be able to speak to Chandler Whitmer a lot of those guys there.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I think a few days later, they're going to do defensive assistance.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be there.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to pretty good, pretty good, look at Chandler Whitmer tomorrow, ask him if you question about Baker Mayfield, maybe what he's seen from the rookie UDFA quarterbacks we have here, maybe what how he's about Jalen Daniels because they clearly like Jalen Daniels and whatever ends up having with him will be interesting.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's a good question and I think it's going to be fun to talk with him for sure.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the hires that you and I have been pretty excited
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm going to be interested in some of the questions you're asking in the rest of the beat are.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just trying to figure out what they want to work on with Baker, because we always, you, Caleb and I are always talking about, you know, there's always room for improvement for Baker.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he quarterback, there is, but certainly for Baker, and I think Baker recognizes that and understands that.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think from what you had last few of his art, that his capabilities were able to do so.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: that fit Baker the best.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's exactly why the box made a big move because this is a this is a young name that's going to have a strong opportunity later on in his career.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: To be able to grab him and have that opportunity for the bucks to have him with Vic right think is I think it's huge.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm excited about that hire.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I was one of the best hires that be off season and Danny Smith.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but let's keep moving here.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think take us through because I do have, and we have entry notes.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get to that.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's end it off there.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But what about Bauer Sharp?
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: What how did Bauer Sharp look a lot of intermediate routes with him seem to be like a safety net.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You were mentioning in your arm.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially the second day, especially the second day.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot more work.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: We talked before the second day and he said, you know, he's been talking to Zach Robinson about some concepts and and.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: kind of picking his brain and seeing how he can get better.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Zach Grounds is a, sorry.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Bauer Sharps another guy, super athletic, super athletic player off the charts when it comes to intangibles.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Bauer got to love to try and use him in a unique way for sure.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be competing directly with Dev and Colp, who we've talked about, but hasn't been able to get on the field, right?
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that haven't moved tight end, I think is where Bauer Sharp would really, really shine.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a lot more work on the second day getting some targets like you said like I said more intermediate route more short routes, which is what doesn't even he can't still believe that's a thing He was getting more work, he was getting more looks and he was one of the The bigger volume receivers I thought say too, so I think that's good to see
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 15:55
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• 16:39
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• 16:40
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• 16:44
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• 16:50
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• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, let's keep moving here.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: River let's jump into anybody else any before we get the injuries anything else stand out to some of these other players that might have not been talked about a ton or any of the the guys that were you know came to the draft is there anyone else that may be stood out to you or I mean to me I love guys are just big size so is there anything big big boys out there anything
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's some big player.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're looking to get bigger, right?
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's definitely an emphasis.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they've got some guys to do that.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: See go down the list.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dean Patterson, like we mentioned, wide receiver out of Georgia Tech.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Eric Rivers is the eligible tech artist here at the invite.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That a lot of people including our very own Caleb Skinner were very excited about.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't play.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was hurt.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he didn't do anything.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He made a game as a result.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the other wire receiver, Dean Patterson, ended up playing in his stead.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he's a six-two guy, 200 pounds, kind of a little bit shorter than Ted Hurts, but some more sort of frames.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're experimenting with getting those larger wire receivers in there.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yep, you mentioned that where I'm going, we talked about you see your homes as well back before this.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they they definitely see some meal that they like and that's a good sign because they're going into OTA and they're going to go into Man Torres and training camp and these guys can make it real impact.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen UDFA is
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Make an impact here on this team, or at least make the team, Cameron Johnson's phone, the team is a UDFA.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They really, really like JJ Roberts at Nickel, who didn't get the play last year, because he tore his ACL and joined Brockes at Steelers, but they really like him.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a few guys that could end up making an impact, we'll see how it goes.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sweet deal.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's get to some of these injury updates because a lot of this was new to us and everything.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got into those interviews.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start off with one of our favorite picks up this NFL draft for the box.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is Kianta Scott from the Miami Hurricanes.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had surgery on his wrist.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had a cast on which obviously he arrives.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is that?
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He just walked in and had it on.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, Harley, I hardly didn't really like what's got there.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know who I would imagine that was the first question asked to it was he on day was he was what did he have to say about that as he Didn't mention that that cast is not going to be on for too much longer
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, at the time of talking to him, he said it would be often 10 days, he said that it would be back in training camp and the timeline there makes sense because we'll talk about another player who's an entry because it ties into it.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then eventually get back to it.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if he says he's been ready for training camp and though he's not to believe him, right?
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he would at least be good to do that because that's gonna be a big, big learning curve for him and it seems like he'll be fine.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and when I, I mean, we'll take a wrist injury and, you know, at least the recovery process is already begun, but for like advantage, that's a little bit more of a pivotal thing that you want to get fully recovered as he's on the line there in the trenches.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: To get on take and take a little bit more time, and I mean, the good thing is these both, both of these guys are going to show up to training camp, expected fully healthy, which is going to be a good sign for the rest of training camp and everything, which I'm,
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, we're in May here and you know, we're a little ways of course from a training camp, but it's going to show up like I said earlier sooner before you know it.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there's some things that I'm looking forward to.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like how did how did Slout look really Slout?
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, coming from Notre Dame his size at the offensive line position.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: look good didn't have a lot to do obviously with how blind goes and pads but he came up with the podium and he's a big guy.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a very big guy.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He says he's going to bring the energy and we'll see how that goes.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he should be able to bring some leadership as well.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's what he had in the day.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Captain at Notre Dame, right?
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a big deal.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: 100% that's exactly what.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what Jason Lightettes in his wheelhouse is to bring in leaders.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And usually, he likes to do that end of trenches for the most part.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But oh, you know, who I need to mention here, how about speaking up big?
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was seeing some photos of him in some videos.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: How about just sciat, trotter, your second round, pick at line up.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: How'd he look to you, River?
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He looked really good, really agile, and that's what they drafted him for, right?
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a physical specimen and can get downhill real quick.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is very big, so that's helps.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's the only draft pick that has been signed yet, but I wrote an article about this on a book's game day.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Second round picks usually try and hold out for his must care and team money as they can.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: That happened last year, it's going to happen this year.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'll get done at some point.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: but we talked about bulls about him too and there's this whole notion that you know he's now just a good of a coverage linebacker and I wrote an article about this on buskandaid bulls says now we know we don't believe that that's true we believe that he can be a great coverage linebacker we believe that if he gets reps in the system he'll be able to fly around and make plays easier
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: and they expect that from him and he's probably going to start.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they should expect that from and he's going to have a big role in the defense.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's gear and up to to be a really big impact player of Tampa if you can't be and they've got the run stuffing down, they've got the blitzing down so the coverage has to come in time and I think it will.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know that's the big thing.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing a big turnaround in person now, River.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: As we go into this next season.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the last two years as a defense has seen its decline and play.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: We just now have to say, all right, this is your last chance, your bulls on this.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: You now are getting your personnel in a lot of younger guys coming into as well.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that is going to take a while for that to mesh together, build a communication.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I do wonder as well.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We won't find this out so we get in the camp in such in these preseason games, but just for some of these newcomers to get down that bulls defense because we continue to always hear this.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's been this way since he was at the jets, but bulls is defensive system is not an easy one to learn.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: That takes a... No.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: long while to get it down and those things don't really start clicking until that second week of training camp for some of the rookies because they're going through right now watching them on their iPads.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going in there having meetings of course.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing meetings sometimes with some of the offensive players that they're going against to get some inside scoop on what they should be doing and the work ethic type of things that they need to be doing these next few months before they arrive in camp.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is a very, very busy time for a rookie certainly on the defensive side if you're playing for Todd Bowls.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, just to hear that Ruben Bane, I mean, just looks exactly what you expected and showed up in shape.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said, I was reading here, Todd Bowls was mentioning that, you know, he can deal with the heat.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's used to it.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's used to that.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, we saw the videos that Ruben Bane showing up to one bucket.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's just looking out there on the field on
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just the kind of guy that you have, but you have a guy that also has a chip on his shoulder, which is, I think, scary.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And be honest with you, I think it's scary because you already kind of plays with that demeanor.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this whole short arm thing, I think we can put that away once we get into camp and see what he can do off the edge.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we talked about it so much in these off-season, like we talk about it when we're,
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, can they go against an NFL offensive tackle, can they be able to, you know, show, you know, speed off the edge, but also to play in the run game, which ruin being can do.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We, we now get to see that here and not too much longer, which I'm excited for, uh, River, we always go into training camp, pretty excited for some of these newcomers, but when you have like the national outlets, also to agree with us.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, say in the big draft seals, they got no impact flyers, it is exciting.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is 100% so anything else here that you want to note on if you have anything unless I did not bring it up here in my notes.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we've covered it.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're on to OTA is coming up here on May 26th as we're not we'll start.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, he's got mandatory money camp, and then a long break.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then what's for any camp starts guys, football's back, you know, and then it's far as in and then you're ready.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a go time all the way till February as it usually is.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, real quick, though, for our quarterback people, because they want to, they want to know why Jayland Daniels was brought in for a 30 day.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted a 30 visits and everything.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: How did he look and was he protecting the ball well and receptions all that kind of stuff?
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you can also to mention on Chandler Morse to wrap it up.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He threw, he threw one pick that that I can recall.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, everything being a quarterback getting used to the whole system, sometimes there's a lot to learn.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that a lot of time is just struggled.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good play by D.V.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, or if I remember incorrectly, I think it was a, it was a good play with a DB and yeah, the throw was off target, but he went up and made a play.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of on like an intermediate route to the left side of the field.
• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot who ended up picking it off, but yeah.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot to do, you know, so I think there's times that you can see him struggle and maybe those struggle continue and that would be unfortunate, but there's also a possibility he's still getting his bearings in the NFL and came to learn this playbook and facilitating this offensive player to you've never met before, you know, that day.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's tough man, it's tough.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I think it's, I think it's the toughest thing for a rookie coming in right away as being a quarterback.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cause like you just said, you don't have any chemistry with these guys.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're not, you don't have your college teammates that you've been working with in practices and games for, you know, years on in.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is a whole different story when you're coming in as a quarterback, having to learn the system of a new offense, a coordinator and just such a short amount of time.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a very short span.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Once they're drafted, they get that iPad, they get the film and everything.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: you don't know what to expect.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't know how these guys are running these routes, how they're cutting, how fast they are in agiles.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it'll take a little while.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't I'm sure we won't see much more of that until we get into a little bit more of training camp for a guy like Jalen Daniels was he running the ball more or was he trying to stay in the pocket?
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing because I don't try to stay in the pocket, I think.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I, you know, that's expected for I think a rookie coming and they want to show that they can't stay in the pocket.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to be just a running quarterback.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they want to show that they have an arm, but I think the bucks and Zach Robinson and Chandler women are going to be like, hey.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You play your game then.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is why we brought you in.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we like that versatility of where you can't use your legs.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that will be interesting to see because that's what he did at Kansas very well.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a very versatile athlete.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we don't need you to be back there and be paying manning man.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not what we're looking for here.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You utilize those legs if need be if the pocket collapses go go get that first down.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, that's going to be really interesting to see what maybe Daniel's has because of staff.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: See something in them.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, but yeah, I think that's going to do it for us.
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• 28:21
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• 28:28
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