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Hot takes after Chiefs loss in week 10 | Jags Drive Time: Monday, November 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sullivs, John Oceans
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Speaker 1: Bryan Session Jacks Drive Time. It starts right now, make
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Speaker 1: them work for it, So limit explosives. I don't think
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Speaker 1: we did enough of that. We had some big plays
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Speaker 1: early on the game, some downs stretch as well that
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Speaker 1: wasn't part of the game land, So limit explosive about them.
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Speaker 1: You know, obviously throw the ball, but keep it shut.
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Speaker 1: Safety Andre Cisco post game in Arrowhead, the Jaguars loose
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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs twenty seven to seventeen yesterday and on
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Speaker 1: Monday morning Jaguars Drive Time. We expected that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: most likely would lose to the Chiefs, but they did
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Speaker 1: it in a peculiar way. So let's dive in. I
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Speaker 1: guess you can say is we thought we might be
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Speaker 1: talking about a log, but I didn't think we'll be
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Speaker 1: talking about it in this way. I guess you could say, well, yo,
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Speaker 1: I got that question a lot, and I understand the sentiment.
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Speaker 1: But in a way, they lost in a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a peculiar way. But they lost in the way
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Speaker 1: they've been losing. Um, they had opportunities, they didn't give
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Speaker 1: away points in the red zone, this time, but they
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Speaker 1: just didn't quite take advantage of stuff. And I think
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson would say it's probably the same story. It
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Speaker 1: was a different slant, but it's where this team is
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Speaker 1: right now. He was clearly disappointed. He said missed opportunities
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Speaker 1: cost him, and I think he was right. But it's
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Speaker 1: not surprising. That's what this team has been and I
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Speaker 1: think they'll go out of it as the quarterback continues
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Speaker 1: to grow well. He said all week last week that
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Speaker 1: he was going to be aggressive and take chances, and
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Speaker 1: he did right off the bat. They get nothing from
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Speaker 1: that because Christian Kirk drops the ball. Uh, they get
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Speaker 1: the takeaway right the force fumble and then the fumble
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Speaker 1: recovery by Devin Lloyd, and they end up hunting. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they got extra possessions and they still couldn't get it done.
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Speaker 1: And it's because they're just not good enough to win yet,
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Speaker 1: not in Kansas City, right. And you saw the difference
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Speaker 1: that leads us to Big Thing one with Big Thing
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Speaker 1: one is a long way to go. You saw the
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Speaker 1: difference in a team like they Can't City Chiefs and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars that Chiefs are just in another tier of
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Speaker 1: NFL teams right now. Quarterback Trevor Lawrence on the state
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Speaker 1: of where the Jaguars are right now. We're right there
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Speaker 1: of winning these games, and um, you know we've said
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Speaker 1: that the whole season, and um, it's just every week,
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Speaker 1: no matter who you're playing, like I said, especially when
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Speaker 1: you're playing a great team like like Kansas City, it's
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Speaker 1: hard to overcome those and and right now, with where
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Speaker 1: we're at, we need to make those plays and keep
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Speaker 1: that momentum. And and that's that's where we're at right now.
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Speaker 1: And um, you know that's you look at the locker
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Speaker 1: room after the game, and everybody believes in what we're doing.
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Speaker 1: Everybody believes where we're heading. We know that, but it's
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Speaker 1: just still frustrating when you when you feel like you're
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Speaker 1: in these games and you don't make all the plays
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Speaker 1: that you have to make to win them. And that's
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Speaker 1: the same story that we've talked about, and that's gonna
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Speaker 1: always be. It's always our messages. It's about us. There's
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Speaker 1: the things that we can control. We have to execute.
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Speaker 1: You know, the defense, for just speaking offensive, The defense
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Speaker 1: is gonna make some plays, but you know, as far
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Speaker 1: as alignment, execution, hitting the easy throws, whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta at those, you know, and that's
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Speaker 1: U and that's always gonna be the messages. Control what
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Speaker 1: you can control. They're always gonna make some plays. So
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Speaker 1: we've got to be better executing, just you know, from
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Speaker 1: our standpoint. Big thing to the QB is closer. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence, really the first time this season he
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Speaker 1: has had back to back consistency performances. Completing of his
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Speaker 1: pass is two touchdown, zero interceptions yesterday against the Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: Wide receiver Christian Kirk on the difference he has seen
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Speaker 1: in Trevor the past couple of weeks, moving in and
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Speaker 1: out of no adversity. Obviously, there are some tough weeks.
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Speaker 1: There's uh, you know, tough stretchy games for us. Um
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Speaker 1: put his stuff to the ground, and you know he
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Speaker 1: trusts and believes in everybody else around him, and so
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Speaker 1: when you have that, it's easy to just go out
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Speaker 1: there and play confident, played free, and you know he's
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Speaker 1: mature enough to to learn from his mistakes and you know,
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Speaker 1: move on and get better every week. Finally, Big thing
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Speaker 1: three is the bye week. We have made it to
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Speaker 1: the bye with seven games remaining this season. Head coach
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson takes a big picture look yesterday's game, just
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Speaker 1: like I'm saying here, you know, the missed opportunities, right,
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Speaker 1: And when you get when you play great football teams,
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Speaker 1: and and the Chiefs are one of those great football teams,
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Speaker 1: well coached, you you've got to capitalize, you know, um.
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Speaker 1: I know they pride themselves on taking care of the football,
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Speaker 1: you know, um. And when you can create those opportunities
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Speaker 1: as a team, we have got to take advantage of that.
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Speaker 1: And we didn't do it as a football team today
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Speaker 1: and now you have it. Those are big things. All
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Speaker 1: last week and we talked about this game. We said
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Speaker 1: that Jaguars would have to play nearly perfect football and
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Speaker 1: get some extra possessions in order to be a team
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Speaker 1: like the Chiefs in Arrowhead. They were close getting the
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Speaker 1: extra possessions, but they certainly did not play perfect football. Well,
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Speaker 1: how many examples do you want with the touchdown that
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Speaker 1: was taken away from Evian Ingram because the left tackle
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Speaker 1: was up the field. I mean, there's just the the
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Speaker 1: five yard holding on third down on Trey Herndon that
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Speaker 1: would have ended a scoring drive for the Chiefs. I
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Speaker 1: mean they just over and over and over that they
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Speaker 1: just kept making that mistake. But I keep going back
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Speaker 1: to the fact that this season is all about the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: And yesterday, um, it wasn't a win in the standings,
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Speaker 1: but they're trending really well with him right now. Things
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Speaker 1: are starting to look very good for him. Yea, he
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Speaker 1: was solid. And I'm not gonna talk about Terror too
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Speaker 1: much because he's my hot take, because there weren't a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of hot takes in this game from me. Um.
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Speaker 1: I thought before the game, and I think I said
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Speaker 1: it on several airwaves, Um, it was gonna be a
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Speaker 1: game of big moments, and that if you saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of Jaguars players coming off the field going after
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Speaker 1: those moments, it means they missed those chances. Then I
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Speaker 1: thought they were going to be in trouble. And I
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Speaker 1: thought that was the case. I'm sure Riley Patterson after
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Speaker 1: two miss field goals came off and went, you know,
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Speaker 1: so they had those missed moments and it gets the team.
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Speaker 1: Like the Chiefs. I thought they would have him. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know they would drive inside the fifty five times
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Speaker 1: in the first half come away with seven. That's that's
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Speaker 1: almost you almost have to try to do that. Um,
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Speaker 1: but I thought it would be about I thought they
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Speaker 1: were good enough and I still think they're good enough
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Speaker 1: to create opportunities against any team in the NFL. Against
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, who are a team that takes advantage of
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Speaker 1: their moments, you have to take advantage of years, and
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Speaker 1: I worried the Jaguars wouldn't do that, and they didn't.
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Speaker 1: Chiefs make everything look easy on offense. The Jaguars still don't.
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Speaker 1: It's a labor with the penalties getting better, but they
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Speaker 1: still don't have the efficiency that the Chiefs do. Not
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Speaker 1: many teams do. But you got to get closer to
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Speaker 1: making it easy on third down, and the Chiefs did.
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Speaker 1: They did the whole game. They seem to never face
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Speaker 1: anything that looked like third and eleven, right, and even
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Speaker 1: to be plus three in the turnover ratio. And if
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Speaker 1: you would have said if they were going to be that,
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Speaker 1: you thought, okay, the Jaguars have a fighting chance. And
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Speaker 1: even then to see it that way, people didn't hear
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Speaker 1: the number. That was the twenty third time this season
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Speaker 1: that the team has been plus three or minus three,
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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are the first team this season to
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Speaker 1: be plus three and lose. Yeah, and we were really um,
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Speaker 1: I know stats keep track of turnover is a certain
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Speaker 1: way I usually saying the outside kick was. Coaches consider
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Speaker 1: turnovers when you fail on fourth down. Coaches sort of
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Speaker 1: feel like that's a turnover when you and when you
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Speaker 1: get an onside kick, they feel like the turnover. So
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Speaker 1: they were really four in zero and still couldn't take advantage. Um.
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Speaker 1: And again, as we've talked about, you get the Kirk
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Speaker 1: catch and that that's probably three more points, You get
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Speaker 1: two more field goals, and then you get those four
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Speaker 1: points that you didn't get. It starts to add up.
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Speaker 1: I still believe that the Chiefs there was a feeling
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Speaker 1: that Chiefs were gonna be able to score when they
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Speaker 1: wanted to score. I think even with all these things
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Speaker 1: we're talking about that she's probably when, but it would
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Speaker 1: have felt different. Well, the Chiefs one for a lot
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Speaker 1: of reasons. I'll give you one that we haven't touched
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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, that's really good. Chris Jones. Wherever Chris
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Speaker 1: Jones lined up, he won yesterday. Didn't matter whether it
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Speaker 1: was on un branded Sheriff or on Tyler shot or
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Speaker 1: on um Cam Robinson. I mean wherever he was, he
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Speaker 1: wont he dominated the line of scrimmage, especially in key situations.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have some big, talented defensive lineman, but where were
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Speaker 1: they yesterday? Right? They didn't dominate. You've you've got to
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Speaker 1: get better. So you can look at the points. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have ten points on the field and the draft
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Speaker 1: might have been, you know, enough to win. But when
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Speaker 1: you boil it all down, the Chiefs are a better
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Speaker 1: team and they were a better team yesterday. Um, but
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars can look and say, all right, the quarterback
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Speaker 1: is playing better. Quarterbacks starting to make plays, yes, and
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Speaker 1: it is all about him, especially at this point of
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Speaker 1: the season, and that is big things. When we come
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Speaker 1: back on Jaguars Drive Times, some highlights from yesterday's lost
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs coming up. We're back Jaguars Drive Time Monday morning,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by car Shield at this time for
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Speaker 1: highlights from yesterday's game in Arrowhead. We start with the
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Speaker 1: very first play of the game, and we start with
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Speaker 1: the missed opportunities. Now it's governing in here to start it.
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Speaker 1: The checks however covered I believe of course as we're talking,
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Speaker 1: this is amazing. What a call Thirt and nine we'll
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Speaker 1: protected and there's the lab complete. So there you have it.
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Speaker 1: An awesome opportunity to get the ball, go down the
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Speaker 1: field and score, and the Jaguars cannot convert on a
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Speaker 1: third down conversion. I love to make this a little lighter.
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Speaker 1: Quarterback Trevor Lawrence and his postgame press conference said they
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Speaker 1: all knew what this on side kick was coming, and
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to stand with his helmet on and
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Speaker 1: give it away. So we kind of just sat and
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Speaker 1: didn't look and hope no one was watching him in
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Speaker 1: that moment, which I'm sure that they weren't. It was actually,
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Speaker 1: I mean, on side kicks from talking to kickers over
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Speaker 1: the years, are not really that easy to execute. Parson
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Speaker 1: did a nice job on that, just hitting the ball
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Speaker 1: just right. The problem was he missed do field go hard.
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Speaker 1: Imagine you had a guy who can do that good
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Speaker 1: on an onside kick. Good mission, forty one yard field goal. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and he's at that point, he was three of his
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Speaker 1: last four and uh, you know, a young kid trying
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Speaker 1: to make it can't have a stretch like that. One
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Speaker 1: other thing on that on side kicks in the last
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Speaker 1: three years since they change the rule and you have
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Speaker 1: to be balanced on both sides are much less effective
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Speaker 1: much it's much more difficult to execute them. And that
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Speaker 1: was perfect easier when the other team does another certainly right,
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Speaker 1: all right, So Kansas City gets the ball back and
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Speaker 1: another opportunity for the Jaguars that has missed in the
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Speaker 1: red zone marked at the thirteen. The checko lost the
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Speaker 1: funk call. They're out with it as Jacksonville. It's Devin Lloyd,
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Speaker 1: the rookie out of Utah and a red zone takeaway.
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Speaker 1: And the second and third end two there's Lawrence sees
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Speaker 1: Chris Charles waiting form and cuts it back inside and
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Speaker 1: that's closed in a hurry by Willie Gay. All right,
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Speaker 1: there you are, right rays Sean Jenkins gets the opportunity,
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Speaker 1: gets the ball back to his offense, and once again
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Speaker 1: the offense cannot take advantage of getting this ball. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. H not shocked, but I
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Speaker 1: was a touch surprise. Doug didn't go forth there on
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Speaker 1: that fourth and two. Um not, you know they had.
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Speaker 1: I was pound the table saying he should have. I
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Speaker 1: thought that was out of all the entire game with
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Speaker 1: fourth downs, I don't think he had an opportunity very
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Speaker 1: often to do that Situationally, I thought there he had
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Speaker 1: a little bit of opportunity, but it was still tied,
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Speaker 1: so I kind of get why he didn't. I just
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Speaker 1: thought that was a moment that I'll Betty was sort
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Speaker 1: of flipping a coin in his mind. And there was
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Speaker 1: one of the third quarter as well that I thought
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Speaker 1: they might go for. Right. There was Chris Jones, by
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Speaker 1: the way, who blew up sheriff and and changed to
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Speaker 1: the dynamic of the play right and stopped him on
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Speaker 1: third down. All right, Now it is time for the
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes highlight. Three touchdowns in the first half, first goal,
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Speaker 1: it's over the Tony the ticktoes, the tight ropes for
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Speaker 1: a touchdown, his first NFL touchdown. Not this offensive unit.
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Speaker 1: This frunt is for real, Chief Site. I do you
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Speaker 1: like this? Alls touchdowns a city, three players out total.
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Speaker 1: Here's the first intent, Dellen Jone, it's a touchdown. It's
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Speaker 1: noh gray the first one, especially Kadarius Tony, no one
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Speaker 1: on that side of the field, That is the most
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Speaker 1: maddening one to me. Well, he went in motion and
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Speaker 1: it looked like, you know, obviously somebody on the defense
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Speaker 1: just didn't know, uh or I didn't follow him and
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Speaker 1: it was confusion. I thought him the other two Brian,
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Speaker 1: And it was a case where uh, the Andy Reid
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson scheming give and take it the way because
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Speaker 1: you had wide receivers on linebackers on both plays, and
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Speaker 1: it looked like they got out schemed. And uh, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have done that to people a lot this year.
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid is one of the better play callers in
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Speaker 1: the league. And I'm making I'm not making excuses, but
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Speaker 1: on those two it looked like they just got beat
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Speaker 1: in terms of a scheme. That Read's scheme was better
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Speaker 1: in that moment than the Jaguars scheme. Tony Romo did
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Speaker 1: really well with this on the CBS broadcast yesterday. They
13:21
Speaker 1: would run players through an area and then replaced with
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Speaker 1: another player and cleared out and it was an absolute
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Speaker 1: example of the master Andy Read yesterday. He was excellent
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Speaker 1: all right, gearing up for halftime, the Jaguars down before
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Speaker 1: they finally get on the board, got Mores act the
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Speaker 1: same in ten catch Oh, Marvin Jones gives the Jacks
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Speaker 1: a little hope before the half. The result us, He's
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Speaker 1: gonna look for it. Look at it go down to
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Speaker 1: the Tenny dives, funny get on, he's changing the play.
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Speaker 1: He's got a play against Manda math right away, all
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Speaker 1: off pressure, get it off, barely beat the play crop
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Speaker 1: to the end zone on the poll's god and it's
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Speaker 1: a touchdown like Christian Kirk. Perfect catch from our regents.
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Speaker 1: There a thirty five second drive at the second week
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Speaker 1: in a row that they have scored inside the final
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Speaker 1: minute of the half, which again is one of those
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Speaker 1: signs that the quarterback is starting to make real progress.
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Speaker 1: I will save my thought for my hot take, because
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Speaker 1: its hot, Brian all right, sizzling, sizzling. I'm sitting so
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Speaker 1: far away from you today started the third quarter. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: drive down, great fifteen play drive, get a touchdown taken
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Speaker 1: away by a penalty, you have to settle for a
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Speaker 1: field goal. Then Kansas City goes right back and scores
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Speaker 1: red zone offenses. Chief team, you say that's today, it's
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Speaker 1: couch say with this first touchdown catch, that's the biggest games.
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Speaker 1: While the storyline is that Kansas City, yes, gets the
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Speaker 1: ball back and drives right down the fie. The drive
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Speaker 1: before this is the Jaguars first drive of a third quarter,
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Speaker 1: it's a great fifteen play drive and the touchdown gets
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Speaker 1: taken away by a penalty, and once again we talked
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Speaker 1: about the missed opportunity. That's what it really hurts, because
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Speaker 1: you eat up nine minutes in sixteen seconds and you
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Speaker 1: only come away with three points. Awesome drive too well,
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Speaker 1: and they would have been back within a score. And again,
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Speaker 1: I think logic tells you that the Chiefs probably still
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Speaker 1: go down and get back up, but it feels different,
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Speaker 1: and it to find the game. Doug was right, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was a game of missed opportunities and there's not
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Speaker 1: that much analysis beyond that. Right, If you want to
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Speaker 1: know where these two teams are, Doug said it last week.
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid likes to score in three plays, right. The
15:39
Speaker 1: Jaguars are very good because they have to be with
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson in this team at long sustained drive to
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Speaker 1: chew up the clock. They're both good at what they do.
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are better. Absolutely, you'd rather have the three places
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Speaker 1: all right, fourth quarter to ten Chiefs at this point,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars trying to make something happen at the last minutes,
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Speaker 1: just three touchdowns. Who starts It's great. So you talk
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Speaker 1: about the yards now need to go the touchdownson second
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Speaker 1: and nine. It was a great job according a sack,
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Speaker 1: got picked, got picked by Cisco. Wow, was seven fifty
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Speaker 1: five to go where they haven't made the most of
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Speaker 1: it today. Lawrence to the end zone and turk folks
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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. That's the guy right there, all right.
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Speaker 1: So at that point, it's twenty seven seventeen Jaguars. But
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Speaker 1: you're late in the fourth quarter and it felt like
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Speaker 1: the missed opportunities early in the game didn't give you
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Speaker 1: enough time to make up for this poetic justice for
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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco and I'll save mine. Yes, I thought this,
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Speaker 1: and I have more to say about Trevor later, but
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a significant play. Brian and she Lynn,
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Speaker 1: you know, you guys, hear him on the desk with um,
16:55
Speaker 1: he's had moments this year where his head guys running
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Speaker 1: open and he sailed it. That was a touch pass.
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Speaker 1: H Now. I know people saying that, well, he should
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Speaker 1: have been doing that all along, but I thought it
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Speaker 1: was a moment where you looked at it and it's okay,
17:11
Speaker 1: he learned something from before. Um. It was not a
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Speaker 1: gimme pass, but it was the right past, the right moment.
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Speaker 1: If he throws that same pass in week one, it's
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Speaker 1: a touchdown and they probably win that commander's games. So
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a significant play for him. Uh,
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Speaker 1: maybe a touch of the games slowing down and realizing
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Speaker 1: what he needed to do in a certain situations. He's coming,
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Speaker 1: it's coming. This season is about him, and right now
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Speaker 1: that part of the season is a winner. Yes, back
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Speaker 1: to back consistency performance from Trevor Lawrence. That it's highlights.
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Speaker 1: Drive time Monday morning, which means it is time for
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Speaker 1: hot takes. Brian Cisco's hit was not dirty. Not dirty. Um,
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Speaker 1: if you go back and watch, you see that he
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Speaker 1: didn't load up, he didn't lower his shoulder, he didn't
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Speaker 1: put his head down. What he did was run to
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Speaker 1: the play to make it right and Smith Schuster grabbed
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Speaker 1: it and turned and they collided. You cannot take the
18:32
Speaker 1: danger of collisions out of football. Can you take the
18:35
Speaker 1: dirty hits. That wasn't one. And I thought, if you
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Speaker 1: go back to the play a little bit later where
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Speaker 1: there was a flag throne, you see him turn his
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Speaker 1: head away as I think that was of all this
18:49
Speaker 1: scantling on the second one, right, and you can see
18:53
Speaker 1: that he had just there. And I thought it was
18:54
Speaker 1: poetic justice because I thought he played a pretty good game.
18:57
Speaker 1: That he comes up with that interception and sets him up.
19:00
Speaker 1: What I like in it too, is and that you've
19:01
Speaker 1: got a golden retriever. I have a golden retriever. They
19:03
Speaker 1: love attention. So there are many times where I'm cooking
19:06
Speaker 1: and I'm working at the stove and I don't feel
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Speaker 1: the dog come right up behind me, and I turned
19:10
Speaker 1: and I almost trip over the dog. It was one
19:12
Speaker 1: of those situations where it's the timing of where the
19:15
Speaker 1: dog is in me same thing, where the player was,
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Speaker 1: where Cisco was, where the ball was. That's the timing
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Speaker 1: of it. And the proof of it is they didn't
19:24
Speaker 1: throw a fly and he's not gonna get fine story.
19:27
Speaker 1: It's not a penalty wild. They picked it up rightfully,
19:29
Speaker 1: so because he did not deliver the lower blow and
19:32
Speaker 1: take him out, and they can all scream all they want,
19:35
Speaker 1: but the quarterback can also help his receivers by not
19:38
Speaker 1: throwing that pass where there's two defenders in the area
19:41
Speaker 1: and not much room to gain. He could make a
19:43
Speaker 1: better decision. Andre Cisco was a public enemy number one,
19:47
Speaker 1: and I can tell you that they did not like
19:50
Speaker 1: him there for unnecessary reasons. In my opinion, how does
19:54
Speaker 1: the golden retriever fit into that. It makes a ton
19:57
Speaker 1: of sense when you think about it, because all the
19:59
Speaker 1: time they're there, you don't know they're there, and then
20:01
Speaker 1: you trip over them and oh it's a dog's fault.
20:05
Speaker 1: He never ever ever got penalized. Well, he most have
20:10
Speaker 1: been a very good boy. Then yeah, um okay, So
20:13
Speaker 1: my hot take is Trevor Lawrence quietly was really impressive Sunday,
20:18
Speaker 1: and say quietly because um, he again has yet to
20:25
Speaker 1: have those spectacular downfield plays I think people are waiting for.
20:30
Speaker 1: But I think those are coming, and I think Doug
20:32
Speaker 1: Peterson and Press Taylor are conscious right now of making
20:38
Speaker 1: sure that he is doing what they're asking him to
20:40
Speaker 1: do well and knowing that in time he will build
20:45
Speaker 1: on those things and get to be absolute spectacular. Um.
20:49
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Brian. I think the season is
20:51
Speaker 1: about him, and I think if you start looking at
20:55
Speaker 1: it in totality, five games over a hundred passer rating, now, uh,
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Speaker 1: five games where he was really impressive, really efficient. I
21:04
Speaker 1: think he is starting to gain confidence and understand what
21:07
Speaker 1: they want him to do, and I think that is
21:09
Speaker 1: causing the bad moments to start reducing. And I think
21:15
Speaker 1: by the time next season comes around, he will have
21:18
Speaker 1: built a base that will allow for the spectacular that
21:22
Speaker 1: fans are waiting for. Commanders, Colts, Texans, Broncos. Defensive failings,
21:28
Speaker 1: he put them in a position to win. The defense
21:30
Speaker 1: couldn't close their end of the bargain. If you just
21:33
Speaker 1: split two of those all of a sudden, now you're
21:35
Speaker 1: five and five, right. I think that's reasonable. He's playing well,
21:39
Speaker 1: he's getting better, and I do think the thing that
21:42
Speaker 1: people never want to hear, but if you if this
21:46
Speaker 1: were his rookie season, and you would feel well, he
21:52
Speaker 1: sort of said Ridge, I mean, he didn't really want
21:54
Speaker 1: to go all the way there. But I get what
21:56
Speaker 1: you're saying. But if if it were his rookie season,
21:59
Speaker 1: you would feel k about this. Through ten games, you
22:02
Speaker 1: would like what you're seeing. So I think those are
22:06
Speaker 1: good signs for this kid, and he's starting to look
22:09
Speaker 1: for Alright. My hot take is Chad Muma is going
22:13
Speaker 1: to start playing more than Devin Lloyd and he's not
22:15
Speaker 1: going to get more snaps. Is going to be incredibly
22:17
Speaker 1: more even than we have seen. Devin Lloyd had thirty
22:19
Speaker 1: eight snaps yesterday, Chad Muma had twenty five. Muma played
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Speaker 1: the entire fourth quarter in the back of the second quarter.
22:25
Speaker 1: In postgame comments, Doug Peterson said that Devin Lloyd was
22:29
Speaker 1: not injured. Chad Muma just had to get into the game.
22:32
Speaker 1: And he has spoken on many occasions that Devin Lloyd
22:35
Speaker 1: at times the game is too fast for him right
22:37
Speaker 1: now mentally and he's not catching up. And I think
22:39
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is just Chad MoMA pushing a guy
22:41
Speaker 1: and playing good and being a guy that they can
22:43
Speaker 1: count on. Funny enough, the CBS crew is at our
22:46
Speaker 1: team hotel Saturday night and the very first question they
22:49
Speaker 1: asked is why is Chad Muma not playing more? Is
22:52
Speaker 1: it a case that Devin Lloyd is a first round
22:54
Speaker 1: draft pick and you feel like you have to play him,
22:56
Speaker 1: You have to give him the reps to get him
22:58
Speaker 1: there because he's an investment. They are taking notice that
23:01
Speaker 1: Chad Muma needs to be playing more and I think
23:03
Speaker 1: going forward, we're going to see this become a much
23:05
Speaker 1: more even battle. And I wouldn't be surprised if chid
23:08
Speaker 1: Moman gets more snaps than Denn Lloyd, except that he's
23:10
Speaker 1: not as talented. He can't do the things even clueless,
23:13
Speaker 1: which Doug has intimated to us that that's where the
23:16
Speaker 1: kid is right now, Lloyd, because he's playing a different
23:18
Speaker 1: position than he played in college and it's very fast.
23:21
Speaker 1: He still has interceptions, passes, defense, the instinctiveness to find
23:25
Speaker 1: that ball and pick it up and go up the field.
23:27
Speaker 1: Movement doesn't give you that. He'll help you with some
23:29
Speaker 1: of the basic stuff and you've got to have that.
23:32
Speaker 1: But that's can't last very long. Devon was a first
23:34
Speaker 1: round pick for a reason. He's got to get into
23:37
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, they're in a tricky spot in a
23:39
Speaker 1: long term because they have three linebackers next year, inside
23:44
Speaker 1: linebackers who probably need who probably all need to be
23:47
Speaker 1: on the field, and they knew that when they drafted Muma.
23:50
Speaker 1: They put themselves in a tricky spot because they knew
23:54
Speaker 1: how good Moon was, how much they liked him, so
23:56
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to see how that dynamic over times. Right,
24:00
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd is too good and he's going to figure
24:02
Speaker 1: it out. He's going to be on the field. Where
24:04
Speaker 1: does that leave them with a look, I mean it's
24:07
Speaker 1: it's it's going to be interesting. I think more interesting
24:10
Speaker 1: next year during training, can't figure out who's playing where. Yeah,
24:13
Speaker 1: and you're at the point now where if you're going
24:14
Speaker 1: to invest in devil Lord, you have to give him
24:16
Speaker 1: the reps right now. But then where does that leave Muma?
24:18
Speaker 1: And he's the same guy that needs reps as well,
24:20
Speaker 1: and he might be taking better advantage of his reps.
24:22
Speaker 1: I go back to draft night talking to Kyle Whittingham,
24:24
Speaker 1: his coach. This is a guy who studies. This is
24:27
Speaker 1: a guy who is having trouble translating. He needs more time.
24:32
Speaker 1: But when he's on, he's an All American. He was
24:34
Speaker 1: the AP College Defensive Player of the Year. In one
24:38
Speaker 1: with all those studs at Alabama and at Georgia, Lloyd
24:42
Speaker 1: was the guy. He'll be fine, he just needs more time.
24:45
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Speaker 1: this week because it is the bye week. We have
25:12
Speaker 1: made it and there was a lot of talk of
25:14
Speaker 1: this late bye in the season. I kind of like
25:17
Speaker 1: it because I feel like we've earned it, you know
25:19
Speaker 1: what I mean. It worked really hard. Now it's here,
25:21
Speaker 1: and even though it's late, I think it makes it
25:23
Speaker 1: more special. I'm already on the bias have nothing. Let's
25:26
Speaker 1: take it. Let's go, let's go. You guys have just
25:29
Speaker 1: canned in. Well, I've looked at the schedule. I've looked
25:32
Speaker 1: at the way that the quarterback is playing. I still
25:34
Speaker 1: this is either a three and four team over the
25:36
Speaker 1: final seven or four and three. No worse than that,
25:39
Speaker 1: they're either six or seven wins in the year, all right,
25:40
Speaker 1: which is kind of what we predicted comus your spot
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Speaker 1: on Yeah, and um, I think Doug played it right
25:49
Speaker 1: having the bye later. I think he likes saying most
25:51
Speaker 1: coaches like it later in the season. Uh so here
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