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Garcelle Quits, The White Lotus, Teresa’s Taxes with Kate Casey · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: I have our girl, Kate Casey, from Reality Life with
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  Speaker 3: Kate Casey, my good friend. We have so much to discuss.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back, girl.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Good to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I was at my new Target. And a
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  Speaker 3: cute mom, Juicy Scooper, but also a fan of yours,
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  Speaker 3: was like, I just got done listening to your show.
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  Speaker 3: And right away I was like, what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Are you dying over Garcelle? And I started to talk
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  Speaker 3: about that. And then I go, oh, and you'll have
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  Speaker 3: to listen Thursday because I've got Kate Casey. And she goes, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I love her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice.
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, I listen to her shit too. So
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk to you guys first because I
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  Speaker 3: know I was shooketh, you were shooketh. another one of
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  Speaker 3: my predictions came true. It was like on the day.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes I do, I once in a while get
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  Speaker 3: some inside scoop. I had no inside scoop that Garcelle
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  Speaker 3: of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was going to quit.
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  Speaker 3: And when I was talking with Jacques on Monday, we
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  Speaker 3: record on Monday and Wednesdays for a Tuesday and Thursday drop,
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  Speaker 3: especially if it's a topical show. And I just have
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  Speaker 3: like this vision. I'm like, I just have a feeling
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  Speaker 3: she won't be coming back. So when I woke up
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  Speaker 3: on Tuesday morning- And the first thing that popped up is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this very nice video that she did that
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  Speaker 3: was clearly she spent a lot of time on. It
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  Speaker 3: was like an acting monologue and it was great. And
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  Speaker 3: it should. She's an actress. She's a performer. It was good.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my God. So then I had
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  Speaker 3: to have Drake, my son, put together a video proving that, like,
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  Speaker 3: I had this weird prediction happen. But I did not
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  Speaker 3: realize that they filmed the reunion on February 28th. And
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  Speaker 3: then according to Erica and Bose, who was on Watch
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  Speaker 3: What Happens Live, that she... And we now see the trailer.
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  Speaker 3: She walks off and she did a, like, I'm done
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  Speaker 3: with this bullshit. And so Erica's like, we knew she
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  Speaker 3: wasn't coming back two weeks ago. You knew Andy. And
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  Speaker 3: he's like, no, I didn't. She's like, she didn't take
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  Speaker 3: the group photo. Well, that wouldn't have convinced me that
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  Speaker 3: she was truly gone. It wouldn't have convinced me either. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: I have so many thoughts, but I want you to
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  Speaker 3: chime in before I continue on.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see Kempire's video?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I spoke to Kempire.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 3: And who has also, you know, been on Juicy Scoop
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  Speaker 3: as well and has a great following of his own.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, he basically has all the scoop of what
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  Speaker 3: happens at the reunion. Yeah. Which is, Bowes brings up
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  Speaker 3: the fact that Garcelle has questioned the legitimacy of the
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  Speaker 3: robbery of Dorit for a while. And according to Kempire
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  Speaker 3: sources who were working on the set that day or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: that Bo says, if it was me, I would have
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  Speaker 3: sued you, Garcelle, for defamation.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a stretch.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's unfair. I mean, we don't know the context.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't watched the whole show. And even if we do,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be edited. But... Yeah, that is something
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  Speaker 3: that has been in the zeitgeist that has been discussed
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  Speaker 3: for years, that it was strange circumstances. She was home
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  Speaker 3: a day early, that she flew home earlier than she
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to. So maybe these people planning on robbing it,
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  Speaker 3: whether they were tipped off or not, weren't expecting her
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  Speaker 3: to be there. They were very nice to leave her
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  Speaker 3: phone by the planter at the edge of the gate
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  Speaker 3: at her home. She had her wedding ring on, which
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  Speaker 3: maybe was in a jewelry cleaner. Maybe she curled it
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  Speaker 3: under her finger. Maybe she wasn't wearing it and they
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  Speaker 3: only went to the closet. There were all those kind
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  Speaker 3: of things that Garcelle brought up that other people who
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  Speaker 3: watch the show and follow the stuff has brought up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like she was just asking questions that
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  Speaker 2: was already out there on social media. But to say defamation,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a bit of a stretch.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And also what Erica... was saying about, I'm just
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  Speaker 3: asking questions about to Sutton is, yeah, Sutton did her
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  Speaker 3: job too when Erica was going through all the shit
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  Speaker 3: with Tom Girardi. Sutton did the job of what makes
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  Speaker 3: the show popular, which makes us, is she asked the questions,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what was their $ 25 million put in your account?
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  Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff. Like if she didn't do that,
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  Speaker 3: It would have just been, you know, bitter Erica. And like,
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  Speaker 3: we now are happy that Erica's through it and back
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  Speaker 3: on Broadway and looking fabulous and is kind of a
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  Speaker 3: great girl's girl.
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  Speaker 2: But she's boring.
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  Speaker 3: You think Erica's boring?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the season, all she did was show us
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  Speaker 2: like a renovation. There was, and by the way, I
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  Speaker 2: thought the whole show was boring this season, let's be clear.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing really happened. All of their lives have been pretty boring.
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  Speaker 2: So if you had not had all of the women
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  Speaker 2: at some point even pose a question, what else was
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  Speaker 2: to the show? It's a pretty boring show. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Moylan always says it should be called Rich Women
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  Speaker 2: That Do Things. It was Rich Women That Do Things.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we really didn't see anything this season.
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  Speaker 3: Boring. Well, I always say, well, if your life is
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  Speaker 3: peaceful and you're not going through a divorce and you're
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  Speaker 3: not dating anyone and your kids are at peace or
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  Speaker 3: your kids don't really want to be a part of it,
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  Speaker 3: what are you supposed to do? You, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: just have to be your funny self or, or non
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  Speaker 3: funny self or whatever in a moment. Like you can't
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  Speaker 3: like create, you know, that you, that someone close to
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  Speaker 3: you is going through something horrible or you're going through
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  Speaker 3: something like you can't create, create tragedy to like stay
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  Speaker 3: on the show. Like, so, but I think it's funny
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  Speaker 3: that both Garcelle and Erica, from what I can tell
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  Speaker 3: from Watch What Happens Live, Erica was harsh on Watch
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  Speaker 3: What Happens Live last night. She was like, really like
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  Speaker 3: angry at Garcelle. It seemed like she was like, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what I haven't, cause then someone wrote like, well, you
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  Speaker 3: didn't show your life. We don't see who your other
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  Speaker 3: friends are. We don't see who you're dating. And she's like, please,
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  Speaker 3: you saw me, my whole life fall apart. You saw
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  Speaker 3: everything happen. I was sued. I'm being sued now. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Garcelle, you bought a beach house in Bakersfield.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, my God. It was just
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  Speaker 3: really gross. That was kind of snarky. So now people
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  Speaker 3: are like, that was pretty mean.
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  Speaker 2: It was mean.
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  Speaker 3: It was Oxnard. And Oxnard is very nice.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice, yes.
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  Speaker 3: And that, you know, that is what she's doing in
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  Speaker 3: her life. And we did get to see her on
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  Speaker 3: the Lifetime set. However, it's not that juicy. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? It's like her situation is not that juicy.
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  Speaker 2: Any of her lives are juicy. I think they're all
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  Speaker 2: pretty boring. I'm sorry. They've been on the show too long.
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  Speaker 3: And also, it's not our place to explore her older
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  Speaker 3: son Oliver's love life in which he has now two
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  Speaker 3: baby mamas and whatever. Like, she's just like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's a recovering addict. Like, she doesn't– she did share that.
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  Speaker 3: She did share that, you know, some pretty heartbreaking things
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  Speaker 3: last year when he was trying to break into the
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  Speaker 3: house or something and she knew he was an addict
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  Speaker 3: and she didn't know what to do. So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But– In her leaving, yeah, I think she had one
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  Speaker 3: of those reunions that made you just go, I don't
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  Speaker 3: need this bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: What am I doing? I had a career before this.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I have opportunities that I should maximize before I'm
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  Speaker 2: on the show too long and everyone gets sick of me.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think it just came to a run. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: having your kids be going to be seniors is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know how that feels.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very stressful. I remember Jill Zarin kind
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  Speaker 3: of having a breakdown because she's like, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: get the kid in Vanderbilt. She's like, this is a
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  Speaker 3: rough year for me. It is a lot going on
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  Speaker 3: and she has two of them. And then also- If
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  Speaker 3: the boys are not down to be on it, then
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  Speaker 3: it's like also like, do I really want the world
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  Speaker 3: to know that they didn't get into their dream school?
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  Speaker 3: Or one did and the other didn't. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if she even thought that far ahead. But that is
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  Speaker 3: something to.
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  Speaker 2: It's a stressful year.
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  Speaker 3: And it's two.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But then the other part is like, I can't believe
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  Speaker 3: she's giving up this $ 750, 000 a year job.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, you've always said it's emotional warfare.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so you kind of have to go... In the end,
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  Speaker 2: am I going to get anything extra out of one
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  Speaker 2: more season of this?
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not. Except just the paycheck. Yeah. Which takes a
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  Speaker 3: lot of time to get. Yeah. And then takes a
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  Speaker 3: lot of heartache. And you're risking your sons being exposed.
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  Speaker 3: But another starky thing Erica said yesterday, where she was like,
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  Speaker 3: she said something to the effect of like, we do
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  Speaker 3: have things in common. We both married ugly white men
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  Speaker 3: who cheated on us. And Andy was like, Like, I
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  Speaker 3: thought that was pretty great. Like, I don't know why
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  Speaker 3: she's so pissed at Garcelle. Garcelle must say something kind
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  Speaker 3: of rude to Erica. Something happened behind the scenes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes at the reunion. Because I didn't really
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  Speaker 3: get it because I'm like, I feel like the two
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  Speaker 3: of them had never had an issue, Garcelle and Erica.
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  Speaker 3: I think that they probably.
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  Speaker 2: All have some sort of text chain where they say
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  Speaker 2: the most hateful things that we'll never know. I was
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  Speaker 2: actually thinking. So we need to go Salt Lake City?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Everybody, take out your phones and read the meanest
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  Speaker 3: shit you've ever.
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  Speaker 2: Have a game. I do think the show is unbelievably boring.
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  Speaker 2: And then the fact that Kyle won't talk about anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine if you're an accountant and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, I just don't really want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: numbers anymore. Like, this is your job.
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  Speaker 3: You are paid to talk about your life. So Kyle's defense,
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  Speaker 3: in which I've seen her in these after shows and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: of not discussing Morgan, in which Garcelle has been putting
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  Speaker 3: her feet to the fire on that. She was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, well, you don't want to talk about Oliver.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to, your kids don't want to film.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so if someone in my life, just like
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  Speaker 3: your kids, requests not to be discussed, then I should
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  Speaker 3: have that resolved. And then the other argument would be like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: kids are one thing. Love life's another.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who's to say?
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  Speaker 2: Who's to say? I'm in a predicament because I can't
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  Speaker 2: talk about that part of my life. Acknowledge it.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Just like when a kid, when you're in a
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  Speaker 3: divorce and your spouse says the kids can't be on camera.
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  Speaker 3: Like she said, Sutton's kids in the beginning couldn't be discussed.
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  Speaker 3: We couldn't see them. Now they can because a couple
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  Speaker 3: of them are over 18.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, but with the Morgan thing, I agree with, you know, everything. Like,
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  Speaker 3: what is the deal? They, I didn't, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 3: how long ago the reunion was done. So since then,
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  Speaker 3: Kyle has been seen on tour in Europe with Morgan
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  Speaker 3: at every show. I had one person write me, said
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  Speaker 3: with their own eyes, they were there, saw them holding hands.
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  Speaker 3: And we keep waiting for, well, maybe I will have
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  Speaker 3: a story to tell.
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  Speaker 6: I just.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we watching a reality show if the people
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  Speaker 2: are not real about their life? I.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not on a reality show. You don't really know
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  Speaker 2: that much about my life. I mean, like, I sign
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  Speaker 2: up every week to watch a show because we have
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  Speaker 2: a contractual agreement with them.
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  Speaker 3: Show us your life.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Like, why are we doing
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  Speaker 2: this anymore?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, and, you know, the rules... It's
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  Speaker 3: not a regular job that you all tuck into the
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  Speaker 3: factory and do eight hours.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So based on how much you bring... They will let
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  Speaker 3: certain people get away with bad behavior and others they don't. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's got to end. I mean, Jennifer Aiden is supposedly
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  Speaker 3: never going to come back to New Jersey because she
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: was mean to the person at Jersey Mike's, which I'm
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  Speaker 3: all for. Oh, I think it was a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot more than that.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm saying someone else can do literally hard time
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  Speaker 3: trial and still come back.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like a Jen Shaw.
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  Speaker 2: True, true, true.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like... But it's because... she wasn't bringing that
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  Speaker 3: much to the table and people were tired of her anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for being a dick one more time. Goodbye.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get into New Jersey in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: But with Kyle, I now do believe part of it
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  Speaker 3: might be Morgan. I don't want to be part of
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  Speaker 3: the show anymore. I've said that before. Like I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a real country singer. I don't want this housewives
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  Speaker 3: like middle-aged lady bullshit. Like, and those are not my fans. Like,
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  Speaker 3: but the other part I think is, and I said
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  Speaker 3: this on my Patreon, I just don't think she's ready
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  Speaker 3: to say, I am in love with a woman, therefore
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  Speaker 3: I'm a lesbian. I think she wants to maybe say,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a relationship with Morgan, but not go to
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  Speaker 3: the level of, now I'm the poster child, the first housewife,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that even though Braun would like to say
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  Speaker 3: she's one, the first bisexual housewife, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: embrace it, and therefore I'm going to be the, you know,
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  Speaker 3: do the parade and be at GLAAD. I don't, I
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  Speaker 3: just don't think she is ready to do that yet.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think it's because I think it's because
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  Speaker 3: she really is like, if she's having a relationship with Morgan,
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  Speaker 3: she's really like, I just, I just want to be
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  Speaker 3: with Morgan. I don't know how long it's going to last.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that we're going to get married, but
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  Speaker 3: I also think there's this part of her that's like,
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  Speaker 3: I like being a wifey to a man. And she,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: You know, she might want to Lauren Sanchez it. She
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  Speaker 3: might want to leave her options open for the future.
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  Speaker 3: If this thing doesn't work out with Morgan, I think
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: she doesn't want to be so on the spectrum of, like,
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  Speaker 3: she's our gay house. I don't think she's ready to
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  Speaker 3: be on People magazine. Yep, I'm gay, like Ellen. I
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  Speaker 3: just don't think she— that' s why I think she's stalling.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're a private person, you shouldn't be on
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  Speaker 2: a reality show.
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  Speaker 3: Right. But I'm saying I just think she's waiting for something.
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  Speaker 3: She's either waiting for a real commitment from Morgan or
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  Speaker 3: she feels like it's just a phase or just that.
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  Speaker 3: She's just not ready to say it. I mean, some
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  Speaker 3: people in the past prior to, you know, this decade
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  Speaker 3: were in the closet for a really, really long time. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and had the luxury, not the luxury, but
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  Speaker 3: had to be in the closet or chose to be
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  Speaker 3: in the closet, whatever. And we're just, and now it's like, what?
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  Speaker 3: It's because it's not a big deal, you know? But
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  Speaker 3: to some people, I mean, she is 55 years old.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, and that's what I think it is.
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  Speaker 2: If they make a video together.
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  Speaker 3: Right. A sexy video.
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  Speaker 2: You can't shame an audience that is eager to just
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  Speaker 2: understand you.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's all, you know, you have the ability to say
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  Speaker 2: as much as you want, but you shouldn't be on
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  Speaker 2: a reality show because everyone else on the show and
• 15:26
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you've been on a show too long and you
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  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: filed against me.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved? He said,
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: I have a work dad. I need a home dad.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: What happens next?
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: encounters hardships. What defines them is not those hard moments
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: that they go through. It's about what happens next.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: even if it's shaped.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Bravo Snarkside account on Instagram brought this up because Dorit
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: was saying, I think that she says in one of
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the aftershows to Bose, Garcelle never even liked Sutton that
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: much until Sutton could buy the friendship. What do you mean? Well,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Garcelle had a charity event for, where is she from? Haiti.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Haiti.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: For Haiti and Sutton, very graciously, but again, bought a
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: table for $ 25, 000. Well, it reminded me of when she
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: bought her table to Elton John and invited Lisa Renna
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and then went and said, well, all I know is
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: that Lisa never paid me for that. And Lisa was like, wait, what?
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And Lisa's whole thing was, I've been invited for years
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: and not had to pay. And you were like, hey,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: want to come at my table? So I wasn't putting
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: like two and two together. I just figured like, whatever,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: you're a rich lady and I'm Lisa fucking Rinna and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: you want me at your table. And it was prior
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: to her becoming a housewife and all of it led
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: to her being a housewife. So like, so it's a
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: little bit of that, but then I think they did
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: enjoy each other. But do I think there'll be friends
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: when Sutton's still on the show?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: That's always how we know. A year after someone leaves
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Hanging out and taking photos and talking on the phone
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: when she's not on the show and Sutton is. I would,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: If there was a gambling situation going on, I would
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: say I'll put a couple grand down or no.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Garcelle might be like, I cannot deal with
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: anybody who was on that show for a good year.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: A lot of the housewives that leave say, I just
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: want a detox. I can't follow accounts. I can't do anything.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Sun's interesting.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: But wait, I just want to say, so then what
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: she brought up, Brava Snark said, remember when she was
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: like joking, like, maybe I'll forgive you for a Kelly bag.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: For Kelly Bender-y, you know. But I just thought that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: was kind of funny. But yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: The best episode this season was when they went back
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to Augusta and we got to meet Sutton's weird mom.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I love that kind of stuff where I like meet
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: all the weird relatives and then I figure out how
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the sausage is made.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: However, I do think it comes down to Sutton, despite
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: all the money that she has, will never be accepted
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills because it's a company town and she
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: can't offer them anything because... She doesn't work in the industry.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: In the industry. So it's almost like a dork moves
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to town and they're not like accepted. So they have
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: their mom throw a party with everybody in the grade
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and have like a DJ to get people to like her.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: You can do as much.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: As you want, but you're never going to be accepted.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That's why she kisses Kyle's ass.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Because Kyle is Queen B, and Kyle is the Hollywood pedigree.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: She's connected to everybody. Kathy Hilton. That's why she's obsessed. Yes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: She wants to go to the Paris party so she
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: can see Dua Lipa.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: And she didn't come for money. I thought she did.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, her house was nice, but it wasn't anything.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: And then when she revealed that her own mother was like, well,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: who's going to support me if you divorce Christian, your ex-husband?
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: And she was like, why don't you care about me, mama? Like, no,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I think that she married, I do think, you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: she married for love. Oh, that was the question about,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: did you marry for love Erica Jane when she married
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Tom Girardi? Garcelle, I guess, posed that question. And that's
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: when Erica said, I don't know, did you? We both
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: ended up with ugly white guys who cheated on us. Like, Okay, whatever.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: But I thought that was pretty great on April's part.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I like that kind of stuff, too, though, because that,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I believe, is the kind of stuff that they would
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: say in Beverly Hills, like behind one another's backs.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, and we get to see it in front of
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: their face.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It's all power dynamics. That's why we watch it. Sure,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: they have, like, nice clothes and all of that, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I like to watch it for all the power dynamics and, like, who...
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Who wants more power than the other person? Who matters?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Who's higher on the scale?
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: But in just getting to about Sutton, I think she came,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: you know, from a nice life. She got to be
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: a prima ballerina, go to college, be a, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: go to ballet school, whatever. And then I think she
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: met Christian. And then I think her, you know, his
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: business exploded and he is very, very wealthy. And after
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: being married for 20 years, she does deserve to have
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: half and everything that like all that. But I think
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: they're kind of like, that's what you got your money.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: You are not, you know, you're not generations of wealth.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: You didn't make it like you didn't have it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You know what would have been funnier? You got rich
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: as a married woman with your spouse. If somebody was like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: what's on your LinkedIn resume, you know?
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Sustainable fashion.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: We are doing clothes that are sustainable.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Would that store close down now?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, but it's by recycled materials.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And I had a fashion show, and I was proud
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of myself.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes people, when they get a lot of money, too, they, like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: lose all sense of reality.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: She did have another name-em situation with Kyle, which I
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: kind of loved.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: When she was.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Like, do you believe it? Do you believe it? Do
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you believe it? It is like, oh my God.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's dismissive.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: And she was walking around being the victim. And I
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: did agree with everything Erica said. And like, I understand
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: it feels like a gang up and you're on this
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: reality show. I mean, it is such a weird, like, psychological,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: emotional warfare, as we've said. Like, I feel for like
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: all of them.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Do you like the close-up shots when they're getting their
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: makeup done? I find that to be so boring.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It's so interesting that like they never had that back
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: in the day. And now... They all bring their glam.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: But I think that's them expressing their power. Like I'm
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: obviously more famous and more wealthy and all of that
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because I have a team of four and you only
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: have one girl that's doing a blowout from the blowout bar.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Like I have this guy who also does the Kardashians
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: hair and he's traveling with me on this trip.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: All I know is that they, according to like Carol
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Radziwill and people like that from the earlier years, If
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: you wanted, if it was a, you know, a vacation
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: where you're going to jump in the water.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: They will provide a local person to come over and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: do your hair.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: That's included, but not the makeup. So, but there are
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: local people that you could pay, I guess, to do
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: your makeup if you wanted that too. But the bows
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: brought her own people, you know, all, I believe, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: don't know if even Erica brought her. She must've brought
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: her own people.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like she had her, her,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: her assistant doing her makeup.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Erica did?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm so glad I do my own makeup. I mean,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I really think.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like Kyle and Kathy do their own makeup.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: And that was another thing. There was a big thing
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: about this guy who I saw. He's doing someone's makeup
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: in the preview of the reunion. But he's the one
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: that had the big riff with Dorit.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: He was on that trip, too, to St. Lucia. So
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: then I'm saying that's a power move because, you know. well,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: he's with me and he's going to leave from here
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and go and work on, you know, an Oscar winner.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: That's their like little power move.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that Dorit didn't pay him and
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: then he did a video saying, yeah. So anyway, that's
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: where we are with all of that. I still think
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: there's a chance they'll bring back Lisa Rinna.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: By the way, just a side note.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: What?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Back in the day, it was much more fun in
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: New York when they would go on those trips because
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: they would like share a room, like Ramona and Sonia.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And now they come with, four people deep as their
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: glam squad that have to stay with them or Sutton
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: brought the her assistant yeah and it eliminates a lot
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: of the fun of the the hijinks that happen when
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they have to live together now they're isolated in these
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: cottages with a full makeup and glam team and I.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Know it's also like getting ready and doing each other's
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: hair and like oh yeah I mean it just can't
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: compare to how fun New York was but also those
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: chicks were getting wasted um So I think that I
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: think there is a chance that they will bring back
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Lisa Rinna. I really do.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: They'll beg her maybe. But don't you think she's texting
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Garcelle right now like, girl, set yourself free.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, she's like, yeah, of course. She's like, I'm so
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: much happier. I have a podcast with my husband and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: we make tomato sauce. Like it is. I am so relieved. No,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: if they call her, she will come. You think? A
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: hundred percent. Yes, we've had some fun, you know, seeing
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: her weird outfits with her bleached brows and whatever. But no,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: she would much rather, she's a hustler. She must rather
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: get dressed and do the show.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like they would make someone grovel before they
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: would have them back. Like she has said so much
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: about the franchises.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think they care.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: They'd make her pay a little bit.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I think you need her and I think you're going
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: to ask her and she's going to accept.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Years and years ago, I remember one of the casting
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: directors telling me that they had this really good option
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: for a new cast member, but she was for Beverly Hills,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: but she was plus size and they just didn't think.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: It would work. How many years ago was that?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with like five.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: That is so lame.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Lame. I know.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Because, I mean, yeah, now it doesn't matter, obviously.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: No.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Like, we want a personality.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: And I love, I love.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: So on this trip, they're in St. Lucia. And for
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the last night, Bose, whatever, producers, organized that they all
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: have to wear these outfits. Like, they're like, you know, feathers.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe some of the outfits. I mean, Erika Jayne, tits,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: under tit, clevelet tip, the tiniest.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Bose in the tiniest outfit with the feathers. Now, Jennifer Tilly,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: she did a one piece. She was like, I'm not
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: doing a bikini. Kathy Hilton was like, I'm wearing a muumuu,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: like leave me alone. I'm wearing a caftan, like whatever.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: And then I thought they were, you know, and I
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: guess they do have a party at the end, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: then they have to go sit down in these things
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: with the big feathers and all this other stuff. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I am like, I just couldn't believe. I couldn't.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Boze's outfit was pretty skimpy. And then she sat down
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: and had a whole dinner. That's kind of funny.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Had a whole dinner and just like a full blown
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: like bikini. Not even that. Like the tiniest bikini. Like
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: a tinier bikini.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine eating dinner in that outfit?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: That's one of the things that I'm like, I mean,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of them have the bodies, you know, to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: do it. But like when like they'd make Salt Lake
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: City's do like, oh, we're doing a bondage thing.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: A leather and bondage party as a 50-year-old girl's night.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what? And nobody wants to do this on
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: their trip.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: But I get it. It's a TV show, so let's
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: get in this feather outfit and take a photo.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I would be like, I had five kids. I'm not
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Ugh.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: No.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. But it was all good. Jennifer Tilly, she's
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: going to stay. She's great. And providing that Sutton also
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: stays so that she can just be.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Like, Hi, Sutton.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Sutton.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Hi, Sutton.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, they clearly brought her on because she softens
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Sutton a little bit. But like the net net is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: like she's unbelievably difficult to be around. She's really hard
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to get along with.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Sutton is.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And uses her money to impress people. And I just again,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it's a company town. And she's the dork with money, right?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's why she's not going to go because
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: she does bring some weird conflict and she does say
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: some strange shit.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I hope she doesn't go. I'd love to watch her.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: What do you think about PK and Dorit? Do you
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: have any insight or theory?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I interviewed him a couple years ago.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Interviewed who?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: PK.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And I like him. I think he's really funny. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: think that it's a surprise to me the more I
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: watch the show that they even got married. I just
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: don't see. I don't see that how.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think they fell in love. And,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: you know, I remember the wedding photos like Jagger was
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: in the wedding. So I think. they were blessed with
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: a pregnancy and then you know continued on but their
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: personalities do not seem to match at all and then
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of course it's been like 15 years. So if she
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: met him at, you know, in her mid twenties or
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: late twenties, and now she's 48, she's going to change
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: a lot and then put a show where she's been
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: very famous for 10 years, not for being an actor
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: or something, but just for her own personal life that
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: involves her marriage and everything.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It's, it's bad. I don't think they'll make it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think so either. No, but, um, Yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like they'll end up on some other show.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Together?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe together or apart. I don't know. I feel like
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: they'll be in the ether for a while. I just
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: can't understand how they got married because their personalities are
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: so dissimilar.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So we find out that PK got an invitation to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: appear on Reunion, which he's done in the past, but
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: did not come this year and like sent a statement
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: that's in the preview. What do you think about that?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I think he probably just didn't want to litigate things
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: on the show because these spouses, they have little to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: no control over how it all goes. And I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it's really the narrative of the show is through the wife.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: So I think that a lot of these spouses over time,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember interviewed John Fuda last year.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, of New Jersey. Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, they feel endlessly frustrated and because it trickles
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: into their lives, their businesses, their exes, their exes, their exes,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you know, their, their children from their first marriages. And
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like they get to the point where like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it's not worth it to us.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Right. You know, to like, to defend ourselves, just throw
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: in the towel, like, forget it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Okay. So let's talk about I talked about this on
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the previous show. Now everyone has picked it up, people,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Us Weekly, about Teresa and Louis of Real Housewives of
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: New Jersey. Yes, he owes these taxes well into the
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: two millions. She also has a tax bill herself in
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: the 300,000s. While she's doing TikToks, dancing to anxiety with
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: a shirt that says my love language is all like, Fendi,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Louis Vuitton.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: She's dancing to that song. I don't even, I think
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: someone just said, this is a trend and she didn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: even put two to two together that maybe she shouldn't
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: be dancing to anxiety. And then there was a clip
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: going around of G at the bar, her daughter and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Teresa and Annie going, I see you're marrying Louis. Do
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: you have a prenup? No, I'm not going to have
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: a prenup. You know, he's got more money than I do.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: And what we've learned is he bought their, their home
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: that they live in together. Um, And then got a
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: mortgage put in her name and I don't know what.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Question I have is what names are on the deed?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: That would be a good question.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, either, you know, he has it somewhere
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: or he doesn't. So either he works it out and
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: pays it or he has to work out a payment
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: plan and pay it or they have to sell the
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: house or whatever. All of which I said, I think.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I think that's juicy. I'm sorry people go, I don't
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: want to see that. No, people would want to see that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: People would want to see if their love will prevail,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: if she wakes up and leaves him, if he leaves her. Or,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: you know, how the daughters react. Will the daughters ever
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: come around and go, Mom, maybe Louis isn't who we
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: think he is? Or, like, because even her, even, like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Joe Giudice seems to like him. Like, okay, I just
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: had another vision, and it's not a good one. It's
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: not a good one.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think he likes him.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And Louis do one of those pay-per-view boxing things.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think Joe Giudice actually likes them.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: No way. You know what my prediction is?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I just gave Louis the idea. He probably hadn't thought
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: of it yet.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I predict.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: What?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: That Teresa comes home one day and there's nothing in
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the house. He's cleaned the house out and he's moved
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to another country and he never talks to her again.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Is that before or after he fights Joe Giudice in
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a pay-per-view YouTube thing? I'm going to.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Say after boxing.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: So we do that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: This is going to be like an Unsolved Mysteries where
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Louis Ruelas just disappeared into the night. And then they're
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: going to have to go through the sequence of events
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: of the first marriage and the second marriage, the wedding,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: not signing the prenup.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And then Hulu Impact does a thing on it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's up there for Netflix. I think
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: it's a Hulu Impact.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Does it not surprise you that he's trying to be
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: like a life coach?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He's exactly who he was when he showed up into
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: our lives at the Prayer Warrior weekend.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yes.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: But if we watch that show, isn't it sort of
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: like watching seven seasons of Tinder Swindler?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you know, he never could explain what
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: he did. You know, but let's just see. Let's see.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I want to see how they're going to get out
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: of it. I want to see how they're going– To
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: either make the money, work it out, admit it, say,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: you know, blame it on the tax guy, blame it
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: on her lawyer that, you know, we always used to see,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: that lawyer. Yeah. That also, like, helped with brand deals
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't even know. Like, I need to know.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: But I feel like she makes the money and then
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: he's spending it. You know, like, they were always on
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: vacations and it made me sick to my stomach because
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I thought, he's spending her money.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: They were on vacations, very expensive vacations. Mm-hmm. And, you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: staying at beautiful hotels, taking friends, private jets. And so...
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: And it's all smoke and mirrors.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just... Yeah. It's devastating for those girls, I'm sure.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And then what will happen with her outstanding live show appearances?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: She's got the one on the waves with... She does? Yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: she's housewives on the sea.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, on the sea.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: With Shanna Bedore, because they kicked off Jennifer Aiden. Wait,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: is Louis on the sea?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jennifer Aiden.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Gets kicked off for bitching about a $ 10 sandwich. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Teresa owes $ 3 million with her husband to the U.S. government,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: but we're going to keep her on the waves, or
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: whatever it's called. Wives on the waves. And then with Dolores,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: who is like, you know, been.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Keeping silent about everything. Remember, her son worked for Louis.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Are we ever going to know the truth of what
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: happened there? I know. And then the son just got engaged.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I hope that's part of the documentary.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: So again, she probably wants to protect all that.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Do you want to be on a cruise ship with
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Louis Ruelos? I'm just saying the jurisdiction questions when you're
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: out to sea, I would be a little bit concerned.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of mysteries about people going missing
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: on a cruise ship, too, that are married. Let's hope
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the guy, George, who had just gone
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: on his honeymoon and he was on the cruise ship?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And the beautiful blonde wife kind of went to another
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: area of the boat.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Dancing with Russians. Yes.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And then they heard a bang.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Heard the Russian voices.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And then there was the blood below.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: He went over one balcony, hit something which caused the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: blood on another one, and then Fell.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Into the ocean.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We never knew.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: That was a doozy.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want anything like that to happen to anybody, obviously. Wait,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I have an idea. But also, she's supposed to be
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: doing- Wait.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I have an idea.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: A game show.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Where two people are facing each other like this, where
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you're quizzed on what date lines you know. Just give
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: a couple details. The murder happened in Iowa- Okay. There's
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a missing boyfriend, and then the contestants have to be like,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you know, hit the buzzer, you know. Mary Jane blah, blah, blah, 1986, Dateline,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Episode 4, Keith Morrison. And you have to say who
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: was the host, when the person died, and give all
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the details.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I think that could be very fun.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I think we could do something with that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Wait, you know my other idea?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: What?
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I think I posted your reel. You did?
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, tell it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: It's a game show where... You are given a friend's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: boyfriend's picture and name. And while the clock is ticking,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you have to find out as much information as possible
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: about them. Because I think the women are so good
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: at that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Right. But obviously it couldn't be a real boyfriend. But
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: it could just be any guy who's willing to let
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: their information be found and then just see. And then
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: the producers and stuff could hide certain things and see
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: how far and how quick a girl could go to
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: get everything.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Just so you know, we went on a vacation in
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Jamaica six years ago with that girl named Brittany. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Brittany just posted a meme that says reuniting with someone
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: is a big deal. Like we would go so down
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: that rabbit hole.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And so the whole game show is like, how much
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: can you figure out?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: And then the person who's dating.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Is like, holy shit.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Wait.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: And then they do like two side-by-sides and he took
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: the girl to the same resort. Yes. They took the
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: photo on the same place where like everyone probably takes
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: a romantic photo. And so he clearly doesn't have any
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: fresh ideas or whatever. I love that. I love all
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: of it. But look, um, Hopefully they can work it
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: out and stay married. But I'm telling you. I'm worried
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: for her. I'm worried for her, too. And I don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: know what excuse she's going to give. And I don't
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: know how the tree stumpers or whatever that are her
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: hardcore fans are going to be able to explain this
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: away as they are struggling to pay for eggs and
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: pay for their, thing.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: But do they care about him? They care about her, right?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I guess they just love her anyway, but we've been
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: through this before, so how do you say it's happened again?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: What is the explanation? You gotta come up with an
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: explanation pretty soon of how you're gonna rectify this, how
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: it was a misunderstanding. I just wanna hear what their
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: response is going to be. And then from there, Now,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: does this make people want to go to her like
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: City Watery Loft shows where she answers questions? And how
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: is she going to blame this on Margaret?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Because she's got to figure out a way.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: It's Margaret.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Margaret did this. Margaret did this.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: It's Margaret.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: It's Margaret. It's got to be Margaret somehow had something
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: to do with this. And Melissa and Joe, like she
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: can't blame the three of them. How does she get
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: out of this and still be genuine to like her
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: super fans?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I think she has to, if I were a publicist,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I'd say make a video and say, guys, you got
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to help me out. Help a sister out. Come to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: everything that I'm doing. Come support your girl. But he
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: cannot be in any video. Ever again. Like, just keep
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: him somewhere else if you're going to stay with him.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: And then just say, we are talking to our accountant
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: and our lawyers and we're going.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: We're hoping to rectify the situation.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I agree. But I just feel like that's just not
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: her personality. No, it's not. So it's like.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Jax.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Well, tell me about this.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Jax just did a long article. The Bravo Investigator put
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: it together. I follow this account. Good one on Instagram.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: And so he's in Us Weekly. He did a big interview.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: This comes, Valley premieres like next week, I think. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: as you know, he is in the process of divorcing
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Brittany or they're close to getting divorced. They have one
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: son who's like four. And he just talks about what
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: we've heard that, you know, he's been drinking and doing
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: coke for 20 years. He did go to a rehab
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: place in the summer and then relapsed in November in
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: which that was when Brittany, according, which we'll see on
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the show, like has like sort of an intervention or
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: tells the producers like you need to do something. And
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: so then he goes back and then since that second time,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I guess he has a hundred plus days of sobriety
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: and he's, but he also says, I'm kind of boring now.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, It's very hard to go to social things.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm that fun. And I, you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and that he is bipolar and ADHD, which when, when
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: you take that, it's a more likely thing that you
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: might have an addiction issue if you are diagnosed with
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: those things. And so, you know, and like very dedicated
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: to being good dad. And then he's like, I won't
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: say anything bad about Brittany, but she should have said
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: we should go to counseling. And why did she want
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to have, if I'm so bad, why did she want
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: to have a kid with me, you know, two years
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: ago or whatever, trying to get pregnant again? And, you know,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's going to prevail because we're going to
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: see what a nightmare he was in the episodes. But
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: he's also, you know, if he is really sober and participating,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: we got to like like that. But is that as
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: entertaining as Jack saying, I'm the number one guy in
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: the group and, you know, acting crazy and getting three
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: nose jobs and stealing sunglasses on a Hawaii vacation that
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: they were filming for the show? I don't know. But
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: the show, I think, will still be entertaining. And he's
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: got to be a part of it, whether he's boring
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: or not. Sorry, you've got to face the facts. Your
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: health is more important.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I remember when Bronwyn left Orange County, she said to me,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: because she got sober, she said, I just worry people
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: won't think I'm fun anymore. Now, years later, she'd be like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I said that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's probably a very real answer or response
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: that he gave. Like, I'm boring now, but it's not
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: fun to see someone spiraling. And especially when they're a dad,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I don't find that very entertaining.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I just want to say as someone who does enjoy
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: cocktails and on occasion, I'd be at a party where
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I wasn't drinking for whatever reason. You know, if I drove,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I have something else to do and I can't stay
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: for five hours. Like if I'm boozing, I'm like, oh
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: my God, we start the night started at five. We
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: were in the Uber at 1020. Where did the time go? Well,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: the time went because you had four drinks. And dinner and,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: you know. But when everybody else is drinking and you're not,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a four and a half hour dinner is fucking hell.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: And I just need to be honest about that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Pregnant almost for nine, ten years straight. So I can
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: say that. it is possible because I feel like through
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: those years.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I was not drinking at all. But also you were
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: escaping three and four kids to go be with adults.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: So you probably loved it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Probably, yeah.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying as now, as someone that's just like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: if you're around with people, it's a challenge. I give
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: it to the people that are doing sobriety or going
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: on a hard 75 or whatever. you can do a
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: meal for like two hours or something, but I'm saying
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: like hang out for hours on end and want to
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: go late. I think it's very challenging. And when you,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: you know, so I think that's what he was like
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: sort of referring to like and having the bar and whatever.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's so wrapped up in his identity.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: And then there's a, in a moment, I guess in
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: the preview where she finds a thong and he was like, yeah,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: at the time I was getting with girls, but that
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: thong is from when we did a bark of like
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a paid bar crawl and And somebody gave me a thong. Okay.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Sure. Speaking of these pain things, I just saw that
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Hannah from Below Deck and another one of the girls
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: from Below Deck that worked on it, they now are
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: doing their own come join us on a catamaran for
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: seven days. Okay. Okay. With your friends and it's like
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: a mini below deck with them, but then they're not
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: working and they're drinking and you can party and ask
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: them questions, I guess, for seven days straight.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Seven days is a long time.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: All I want to say is that, yeah, seven days
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: is a long time.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: That's a long time.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: To be on a catamaran.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like I get all the information I need
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: in 25 minutes or less. So then you're like, what
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: are we talking about now?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Or just imagine being them though.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Like for every day.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Like, okay. So in episode 12, nightmare, what, what happened
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: when you found the bathing suit with the skin marks? Like,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: how did you clean that bathing suit?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to watch these episodes ever again.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that person that, you know, tried to
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: make out with you on the balcony? That was actually
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: the primary, like, Every single– I guess if you're a
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: super fan, you should do this. You're welcome. I'm promoting
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: your thing. I'm just saying.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Well, does that bother someone like Jill Zarin? Like, does
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: she want to slam her head against the wall if
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: she has to answer questions about, you know, season one?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Jill Zarin wouldn't be going.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: No, but I'm just asking, like, for these reality stars,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: is that torture for them?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I just think that's where we're going with people who
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: are no longer on these shows. It's going to be–
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: you're going to be able to pay– For their time.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Something calm. Yeah. And then, you know, and then- You'd
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: walk up to the booth, talk to them. Remember that?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Like, remember how, like, the girl, like, guys would go
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: into a peep show?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: And instead of a peep show, it's just an old housewife.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: You have three questions you could ask me. It's $ 20
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: a question.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Well, they all do it now with the podcast. Okay, listen.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the very controversial scene. We knew this
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: was coming. This is White Lotus. The brothers kissed. Yeah.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Patrick Schwarzenegger is the older brother. Then there's a girl, Piper,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: in the middle. And then there's the 18-year-old brother on
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: White Lotus. And they hinted... From the very first episode,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: people are like, is this going to be an incest storyline? Mm-hmm.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I thought, no, he's probably just fucking with us. Well,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: the two brothers get, spoiler alert, get very wasted with
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: these two other girls, and one girl sleeps with the
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: younger one, while the younger one jerks off the older
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: brother to completion. And we see it. Mm-hmm. I thought
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: you said you were watching this.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't see it. I didn't think he did that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: He was jerking himself off, wasn't he?
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: No, you didn't watch the whole thing then.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't realize that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Yes. They made it look like, this is dirty, everybody.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: They made it look like they were on the bed
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: next to him and he was getting turned off and
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: pleasuring himself. But no, it was the other way around.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: And then they both are just acting like it didn't happen. Mm-hmm.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: And so there's that very controversial. How do you undo that?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Very controversial, but I want to say like, he's got
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: to outdo himself. And I think there's going to be
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: some twists. I do think this was, Who do you.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Think is going to be the person at the end
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: of it who is the most diabolical? Because I kind
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: of feel like... It's going to be a surprise. It's
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: going to be the manager or it's going to be
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the woman who kept taking the cell phone from the dad,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the Australian woman. They give me the creep vibes, but
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: they're kind of lurking in the back. There's really no
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: point of them.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, that's what's kind of fun. It's like you
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: can kind of guess, but it's this... It's the dark stuff. Okay,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: so I have a crazy thing. I have a crazy theory, too. Okay,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: go ahead. I have a crazy theory. It's Mike White.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: You know, it's such a genius, and they said that he,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: you know, took inspiration from Southern Charm with the character of,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: you know, Piper No, Tsunami of Parker Post. Okay. Now,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: you know, Patrick Schwarzenegger hasn't done that much acting. And
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: the family loved watching White Lotus. And I'm sure she
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: picked up the phone or he told his agent, I'd
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: like to be on White Lotus. I'm a fan of
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: White Lotus. Okay, fine. We'll find a part for you. Whatever.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: And they get to Mike White, and Mike White's coming
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: up with the next thing. And he decides to do
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: this very controversial incestual sexual situation between two brothers. Being
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: that Patrick Schwarzenegger is the daughter of Maria Shriver, whose
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: mother was a Kennedy, whose mother was brother and sister
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: with– John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy, who notoriously had,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: allegedly both slept with Marilyn Monroe and supposedly allegedly even
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: had orgies.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: With Marilyn Monroe?
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: With other people around, they'd have orgies. That was the
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: stories of that time. So knowing all that history and
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: then putting Kim, this relative of the Kennedy empire, into
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: a scene This is my own thing that came up
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: with you two nights ago. Okay.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I think that I would not be surprised if I
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: got Mike White in front of me if that wasn't
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: some– that that was in his head somehow in casting him,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: coming up with it, like all this weird stuff. Or
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: a total coincidence.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I think that although they've said that the Ravenel– family
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is inspiration from Southern. I think that the Ratliff Peterson
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: family in Durham, North Carolina is a huge inspiration. He
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: said the family is from Durham and the family name
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: is Ratliff. And the Ratliff was the first woman that
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: fell down the stairs.
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: That Michael Peterson may have pushed down.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: So I feel like there will be a staircase in
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: this story. And the other thing is the picture in
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the background always is a sign of And then that
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: painting in the beginning of it, there are a lot
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: of monkeys and there are a lot of shots to monkeys.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: So just like something having to do with a monkey
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: and a set of staircase. Yes.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I also love that people are like, this is why
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: you don't go on a trip with three girls.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: And I disagree. I feel like, yes, there is a
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: thing about three. So I always remember this one time
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: my sister was like, oh, she was picking up her
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: daughter from a play date. And I witnessed it. She
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: said to the other mom, like, oh, the girls had
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: so much fun. The next time we should invite whatever.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: And the three of them can play. And the mom goes,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: threesomes don't work with girls with playdates. No. It is hard.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that. And I was like, oh, my God.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: But you have boys.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I have four girls. I'm telling you, it is gnarly
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: when three little girls are together. It's awful.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I mean, I do think he's, I do
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: think he's portraying this threesome friendship brilliantly with the girl
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: who's the actress who's also paying for the trip. So
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: she should be able to, I don't care, you know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: fuck who she wants and they should take it to
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: the grave because she paid for the trip. Sutton. Yeah.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: She paid for the trip. So like, I love that
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the other girls annoyed the divorce lawyer, but you know,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: but she's also like, I can't really be pissed because, like,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: we're on this trip and she's picking up the bill and.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Is it going to come back at all that Parker
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Posey and Leslie Bibb's character do know each other?
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, because he doesn't drop everything.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Why would he drop that?
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: It's going to come back. Everything will be put together.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: And for those that are watching the show, like, yeah,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: there's a moment where one of the three girls that
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: are on the trip come up to Parker Posey, who's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: part of like the Duke family, like the Southern family,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: and was like, I met you at so-and-so's bridal shower,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: baby shower or something. And she's like, no. Was it May? No.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: And it also could have just been that she's just
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: like so high on stuff she doesn't remember and she
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to try to remember.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Somebody that's insignificant. That might be too easy.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's something else.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it's juicy. It's got us talking. Okay, this is
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: from TMZ. Kanye West is sued for copyright infringement because
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: of his support for Nazis. Yes, all of his Nazi-wearing
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: stuff Someone actually owns the copyright of that. Some German musician.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: They can all go away.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: It is so disgusting. Just get rid of all of them.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: And I just want to say that at this point, Kim,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I am losing some respect for you. Like, you have
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: got to use all your power and say- No, I
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: think I read that. You cannot see your dad anymore.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I think I read that. She is pursuing full custody.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: And here, let's watch Schindler's List. Let's watch every movie
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: if you don't understand what it is. And your dad
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: is sick for somehow thinking- that this is okay. What
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: is going on? We cannot forget about the worst thing
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: that happened to the world in the last hundred years.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I know. So, no. I feel so badly I've said that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I've said that even before this. But this wasn't one time.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: He's been doing this for years about Jewish people. So
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: he is disgusting and I would do everything it took
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: now at this point to be like, I don't want
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: my kids around him.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like I did read that, that she's now
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: pursuing him.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Until he is somehow not pushing this agenda.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember, too, when he had that school?
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk enough about that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: All the people that worked for him when he was
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: doing his Christian concerts, all those people had to send
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: their kids there. They had no choice. And there was
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: no education.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Remember when Jada and Will had a school?
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Where are those exposés?
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: You know what I just— Why isn't someone making a
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: documentary about those stories?
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I have another theory, another story
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: that popped up as I was driving over here. It's
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: an old, weird story. Jerry Seinfeld, you know, he— we all
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: know he dated a 17-year-old. He dated her for four years. Shoshonda.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: And then they broke up. He dated her from, like,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: 38 to 42 or whatever. And she was, like— She
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: was— Whatever. Met her her senior year. I'm sure they
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: never kissed until she was 18. Whatever. Whatever. Then years later,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: his current wife, she had just gotten married to somebody else,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: had a big, fancy, fabulous wedding, country club wedding, went
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: on her honeymoon, went to the gym literally two weeks
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: after the marriage and met Jerry and fell in love
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: with him, ended her marriage very quickly, very quickly to
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: the first husband. And now they've been together, have three kids,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: been together like 23 years. So clearly that's meant to
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: be whatever. But let's just think about the parents of
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: the first husband that Jessica married. Awful. Do you think
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: that they could ever watch a Seinfeld and enjoy it? No.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: But they're incredibly wealthy. So I think that they're probably
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: living the good life. So we don't need to worry
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: about them.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: The parents of her first husband.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: It was like theater money.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Bonkers money.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: So you know what? Maybe he married another fabulous girl
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: and it was a blip in their life.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I think he did.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: So maybe they can enjoy an episode of Seinfeld. I'm
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: just imagining if someone did this to one of my
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: children and that was my favorite show. And then I
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: was just like, ugh. Like music or whatever when you
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: love a song and then you realize the person's like
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: a pedophile or a disgusting person. Can you still rock
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: out to the music?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: The lesson is don't throw an over-the-top wedding. You never
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: know what'll happen.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, you were talking about Chris Humphries the other day.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, so Graydon Carter, who was the editor of Vanity Fair,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: wrote this new book out when the going was good.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: And in it, he talks about how a staff member
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: had come to him and said, you should do an
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: article about Meghan Markle. He said, I don't know who
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: that is. She's on suits. He said, it's still not reading.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. And she said, well,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: she's going to marry Prince Harry. So they send the
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: reporter out. I can remember where I was when I
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: read the whole piece. Beautiful cover photo. And the reporter
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: said that she seemed annoyed that the reporter kept asking
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: questions about Prince Harry. And she had said, aren't you
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: going to ask me about my philanthropies and my charitable work?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: And Graydon Carter said there was a quote from him saying, like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: she's somehow disattached from reality. Like, why aren't you talking
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: about me? Why are you so interested in this boyfriend
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: of mine who happens to be a prince? And it
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: reminded me of.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Why are you asking about Princess Diana, Drew Barrymore? Go on.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: So it reminded me of when I did legal PR
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and I represented the law firm that was representing Chris Humphreys.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: And he, of course, there was a 72-day divorce after
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: their big wedding, which you, of course, attended. So I
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: remember Good Morning America, I believe, booked Chris Humphreys with his...
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I think it was like his grandmother. And he was
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: so upset that... that they kept asking him questions about
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: the divorce. And he was like, I thought you invited
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: me here to make my Rice Krispie recipe with my mom.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: And there is the level of celebrity that it's like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: they think that they're so famous in their own right.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: They're like, why are you asking me about this? When
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: it's like, that's the only reason you're here. Like, that's
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the story we're chasing. The other stuff doesn't matter. But yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I love that quote from Graydon Carter. It was kind
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: of funny.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Well... Meghan Markle, there was a video recently with Gwyneth Paltrow.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I saw that, yeah.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: And Gwyneth Paltrow. is pretending to do a live in
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: where she's pretending to read questions. We're like, didn't you
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: have a beef with Megan Markle? And she's like, what?
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Why would you think that? And they zoom over and
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: there's Megan. So we know that Megan has a new
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: podcast coming out called Confessions of a Female Founder.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: So then she's probably got, uh, Gwyneth Paltrow, owner of Goop.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: As her guest. And it's like, I don't know. I
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: feel like people, it's who, who is she going to
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: be interviewing? I think probably half are going to be
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: people that, you know, came from a knot of privileges,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: privilege and nepotism and everything else, but knew how to make,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: you know, light gold jewelry you know and could stack
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: a bracelet and you know and they worked hard at
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: night because at one time their website crashed and it
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: was hard and we can't wait to hear these stories
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: yeah and but i'm just yeah i'm i think.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: What you're saying is let let me hear the story
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: of the person that it was like living on sandwiches
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: for a year and had 30 bucks in there you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: know it'd be good that couple that just sold um
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: what is it the poppy drink.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, the poppy drink.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: That would be a good interview.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Pepsi just bought this poppy drink, which was kind of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: interesting because this, you know, it's like a five calorie soda.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: And I guess Pepsi wanted to get into the business
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: of people drinking healthier sodas. So they bought it. And
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: probably that deal was already just, you know, inches from
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: closing when poppy got some bad press because for the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, they sent poppy vending machines to these big influencers.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, some angry people, whatever, have started
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: to write like, now what are you going to do
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: with those vending machines? And it's such a waste. And
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why don't you make them into sustainable fashion?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But like, I was like, what do
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: you want them to do? And they had to like,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: apologize or say, no, we are going to pick up
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: the vending machine. I don't even know. But they got
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: this bad press probably going, oh, my God, we have
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: to act concerned about this. Or maybe they were concerned
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: and thinking some angry tweets was going to make their
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: $ 10 million, whatever, billion dollar Pepsi deal go away. But
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: it didn't. It didn't. It didn't matter that some people
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: were mad on TikTok about the, you know. Now Pepsi
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: bought it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: But I think it was like a couple that bet
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: on this. And they had like $ 30, 000 that they took
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: out to invest. Like, that's a great story.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Right. But I feel like.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: That's a great story.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like we've heard a lot
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: of these. Like, of course, they'll have the Spanx girl. Right.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Of course, they'll, you know, I'm sure she'll get Kim
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: on there. And it's fine, you know. Like, let her
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: do what she has to do. The husband is not
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: going to. The husband, the prince is not making money.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: So it's like his ideas for podcasts were to go
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: and he was like, I have this idea. I'd like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: to interview Putin and Trump and say, why are you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: a sociopath and I'm not? Like it was like the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: weirdest ideas ever.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: He should stick to what he's good at.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: What is he good at?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Shaking hands and holding babies.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: I know, but there's no point of that now that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: he's in Santa Barbara.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like you hire him for an event and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: he walks through, you know, a chain of people.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: A pumpkin patch at Montecito.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's what he's good at. He makes people.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, he can't run for, like, mayor because he's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: not an American citizen.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he would care to run anywhere.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Or I guess he could. He just couldn't run for president.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I honestly think he likes just, like, piddling around in
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the garden.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I don't think he
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: has a huge work ethic, which is fine. As long
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: as he supports her, let her be the breadwinner. Let her. people.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Let them.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I think he has said that. If you don't want to.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Watch Meghan Markle's make a rainbow out of fruit, then don't.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: But if your best friend does, let them. If your
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: best friend wants to listen to the owner of Spanx
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: be interviewed for the umpteenth time on a podcast by
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Jay Shetty, me, or Meghan Markle, let them. Let them.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Do you think that Sarah Blakely is ever like I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: don't know how many more podcasts I can do to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: talk about this.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many more times I can talk
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: about the fact that I had to wear a pair
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: of white pants one day and cut the feet off
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: of my nylons.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Did you ever see the sneakers she made with the heel?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: No. What? I think I've heard about it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: You need to look at it. You know how you
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: go to Target and you just took a picture of.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: That ugly t-shirt with the bra?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: It was just totally a Sister Wives knockoff.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I beg of you to look at the... Sneaker with
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: a heel.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I beg of you.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. Remy Bader, who was this huge, very popular...
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Now I feel bad I said the word huge, but
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: she was a very popular, you know, salt of the earth.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: Everyone loved her. Very pretty, plus size influencer. Okay. Who
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: was all about, you know... I like that, you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I like my body. I'm like no size two or whatever.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Just like, oh, by the way, she's skinny now too.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: What's her name?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Megan Trainor. She's gone on the Ozempic train as well. Anyway,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: this girl, I think maybe dabbled in the Ozempic, but
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: then she now has admitted that she really got the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: bod by going old fashioned Carney Wilson, you know, gastric bypass, whatever.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Or sleeve or whatever it is. Which again, thanks for
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: being honest. It's there. Take it. You're happy. Who cares?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: So it's very interesting, like, because we have the ability
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: through surgery or a lot less expensive, you know, we
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: can be thin. People can be thin that were never
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: thin before. And the thin people or the people that
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: are angry that they're losing their plus size sisters, whatever,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: You're not going to win this fight. If you can't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: beat him, join him. And get a needle out and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: go for it. I don't know.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Who cares? I just want everyone to be healthy.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Like, who cares? Whatever that is. And if you don't
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: want to go on it because you don't want to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: take anything, then that's fine, too. Like, it's like, who cares? Yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so it wasn't just Ozempic, though. But the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: thing about that thing that always intrigued me back from, like,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: watching Oprah is... The way that old school would work,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: maybe they've changed it, is so your stomach would shrink
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: so you couldn't eat as much, much like Osempic where
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: you just weren't, like, hungry. But with certain people, all
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: of a sudden now they're thin and they're attractive and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: they're getting attention. But also now they're at bars and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: then they would drink and then they would get really
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: drunk really fast.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: And they're getting attention. So they would become, I remember
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: watching Oprah on this, they became extremely promiscuous because they
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: were getting attention. They had a skinny body. And then
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: also they were getting wasted off of like two drinks
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: because their stomach has shrunk so much.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: God, can't we have anything?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: So like, you just have to be careful. I'm just saying.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: You just have to be careful about this.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think they have these discussions in the doctor's office?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: You might be a little bit promiscuous.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you're, It's a whole nother life. I mean,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: now people are being really honest. Like, oh my God,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: like people treat me differently. And, you know, I can
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: get free dry cleaning now. I can flirt. Like I have,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: people open the door for me. I mean, it's true.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's very interesting.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: I never understood people that berated other people for going
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: on Ozumbic because for somebody who can't lose weight, that
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: food noise is.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Awful.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Like it's a consistent paralyzing thing. So why wouldn't you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: want someone to be free of that?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: It's the greatest thing that I think has come around
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: since the iPhone. Yeah. These things.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Providing we don't all realize it's like flowers for Algernon
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden we're 700 pounds and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: it does like a reverse effect.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: But for what it's, they've been around longer than we think.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that were on them on
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: the DL for like seven, eight years. that are still
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: doing great, that microdose, that go, that do it for
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: a couple months, then go off for a year and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: a half, then go on a couple months and are fine.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Some people that can afford to stay on a very
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: low dose forever and, like, they're maintaining their weight and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: it's working for them and we're not taking it from
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: diabetics anymore. They've figured out a way. And, like, it'll
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: be really interesting to see, like, you know, if as
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: a country, enough people go on it and we actually
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: get to a place that there isn't such an obesity
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: problem that then actually healthcare and everything can like catch
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: up to it and everybody can be better.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: So less strain on the healthcare.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But it's just interesting that the, this invention came
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: so quickly after the push for the, plus size body
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: positivity and people that wrote songs. I ain't no size two.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: She's thin, you know, Kelly Clarkson's thin, Lizzo's thin. These
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: people that we identified as like plus size fabulous, that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: girl next door, you can relate, you know, and then
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: people that, that sometimes I get mad about it. Sometimes it's,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: it's the, the people that are like, you know, I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's just, it's just an interesting thing. And, um,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I'm all for it. Nikki, people sent this to me
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: because they're like, didn't she say this a couple years ago?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Nikki was on fallon or something and she said what
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: i said a couple years ago the people that are
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: mad are the ones that are naturally thin and this
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: was something that they could that they could easily do
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: and now their friend who is you know always had
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: a gorgeous face is now also thin And it's like,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: they're like, it's my special power. And I just want
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: to say my one friend who said this to me, honestly,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: even once I said this, the two years ago, she goes, yeah,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: I'm that person. I'm that skinny bitch. That's pissed. I go,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: why are you pissed? She goes, because it was the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: one thing that came easy to me. She's like, what
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: if all of a sudden I could, I can't just
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: take a shot and sing like Adele. Right. So she,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: and she was joking, but I was like, I do
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: think that's in the mind of some people, of the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: ones that were bitching. But I also feel like the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: people that were bitching were the ones that didn't want
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: to go on it, that were seeing their friends lose weight.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: And they were like, wait, I thought we were all
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: going to be like this size together. And it's just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: such a weird thing.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of the first season of Real Housewives
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: of Orange County.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: When? Vicky was horrified when Lori started dating George because
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: then she started.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: So jealous. Yes.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Or if like Sutton, they hired somebody on the cast
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: who had equal, if not more money. Are you really
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: happy for someone else when someone else has all that money?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Like people thought that I remember you talk about classic
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: cases of O.C., That was the whole thing when Shannon
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: Bedore showed up and had a very nice house comparable
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: to Heather Dubrow's.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Same neighborhood, actually.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Is Heather Dubrow not going to like her? And
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think Heather Dubrow really cared. But that was like,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: let's see if we can get under someone's skin that's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: similar to whatever. How are you feeling about the Baldwins?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: His trailer.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: The trailer for the Rust movie is coming out. Oh, wow.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: The movie is coming out for Alec Baldwin.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I have no intention of ever seeing that movie, but
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: I have subjected myself to watching episodes of that show.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: The Baldwins. And the daughters featured a lot, the 12-year-old.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, they're hoping to make her a star.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: She's probably going to have a YouTube or something deal. Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Ilaria Hillary really believes herself to be a major movie
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: star in the making. And he's a curmudgeon. And I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: think he feels like he owes her because she stood
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: by him all this time. But I mean, she's so
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: predominant in the show. And you're just sort of like,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: it would be like a show about Chris Humphries. You're like, why?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: This is not what we signed up for. We want
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: to see Kim's life. We don't want to see this
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: guy's life. It's the same thing.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Too much.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I've only really watched clips, I'll be honest. I just
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: don't care. But when I see a clip together, I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: am fascinated by the whole thing and where it's going.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Well, watch the red carpet clips.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: I talked about the red carpet thing of her being like, no,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: when I'm talking, you're not talking. When I'm talking, you're
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: not talking. But I kind of respect that now they've
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: kind of made fun of it themselves. They're doing videos
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: where they're mouthing themselves and they're sort of like... So
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Then now I feel like, hey, if they can make
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: fun of it and roll with it, then I think
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: that's a pretty good sign that maybe they can become likable.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: But she's still a liar who pretended to be Spanish.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: I don't take it as they're– like it's a joke.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I think she absolutely hates him. And I think she's like,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: I should be a TV star. Why is this not happening? Remember,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: he threw fits with paparazzi, took his picture, and then
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: he starts dating her. And then all of a sudden
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: they're showing the– nursery for the new baby and she's
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: got a role as a correspondent on access hollywood or
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: something and you're like wait i'm sorry what now right
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: so yeah it's weird it is by the way i
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: did you you didn't watch the show that much but
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: do you remember that when the whole um spanish gate
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: happened that they took pictures of them by horses like
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: in their backyard no Well, I do. And it was
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: like the first photos of, you know, Ilaria and Alec.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: And when you watch the show, you realize that there
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: was no way a photographer could ever get access to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: their backyard. Like they're very much in bed with photographers
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: setting stuff up.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I think he's been in the business long enough
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: that like, yeah, they probably have a good team that,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: you know, instructs them to say what to do or whatever. Yeah. Kate,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming on. Tell everybody where
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: they can catch all your good shows and what you
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: think we should be watching this week.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. Reality Life with Kate Casey podcast. Sign up for
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: my what to watch list. I tell you what to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: watch in unscripted TV. So reality shows, documentaries, go to katecasey.substack.com.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: And I have a Facebook group and bonus episodes. This week,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: the thing to watch, I think, is called Con Mom.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: And it's on Netflix. And it's about a British pastry chef.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: who was reunited with his mother at age 45, and
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: she turned out to be a complete grifter. So that's
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: definitely one to watch.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: That's Netflix.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: That's Netflix. I'll tell you what is coming down the pipeline,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: which you are going to lose your mind over.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: It's the story of Piper Raquel. Remember the YouTube influencer?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: And she has this diabolical mom who was sort of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: a manager for a group of kids.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I do remember that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: It's the whole back story on that. Niles Capello, who's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: a great executive producer, has been working on that since 2018.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: And all of these kids are coming forward now and
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: talking about what was really happening behind the scenes.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: And do you know what that's on?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: That's on April 9th. And I have never seen my
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: teenage daughter... get more excited about something because she knows
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: we watched reality shows all these years. But our kids
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: like your kids, they know all the YouTube people. Oh,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: so for them, that's like it's like their Super Bowl.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: And OK, so do you know what network that is?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: It's on Netflix.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: OK.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: It's called, I believe, Bad Influencer.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Well, awesome.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: And follow Kate on your Instagram.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. At KKCCA.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And of course, go to my Patreon.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: I actually have a juicy story about when I worked
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: with Garcelle that you might find interesting. I wanted to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: save for Patreon. Anyway, so that's at heathermcdolland.net. It's every Friday,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: plus other special bonus episodes on different tiers and all
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  Speaker 3: of that. So thank you so much. Have a good one.
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