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Furness Show 6-23: Tod Leiweke, Joe Sheehan and John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 3: It looks like their flight was declined or maybe they
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a place to stay in Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: I can't I read doubt.
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  Speaker 2: That would be. That would not be it.
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  Speaker 3: It would not be the They're on their way to Spokane, Okay, so.
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  Speaker 2: We did have a win just a moment ago. Portugal
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  Speaker 2: five is Bekistan zero, so that's in the books already. Today,
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  Speaker 2: NFL has informed Brendan Soresby, who for a second at
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  Speaker 2: least sort of was the Texas Tech quarterback. Remember he
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  Speaker 2: finally dropped his lawsuit. He was going to play at
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech. He gambled on his own team when he's
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  Speaker 2: playing for previous teams Indiana and Cincinnati. NC DOUBLEA says,
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  Speaker 2: you can't play in the NC Double A. Big twelve
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  Speaker 2: says no. They sued lots of sues. He dropped it, says,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just in a supplemental draft. NFL said, that's all
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  Speaker 2: nice and fine, but you might want to start preparing
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  Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty seven draft. We're not holding a
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  Speaker 2: supplemental draft. So he is sidelined for now.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think he's the reason they turfed it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's the only guy I know, but he's the
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  Speaker 2: only guy that was they have the right to the right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and they looked at him and said, no, we'll
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  Speaker 2: get into that little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Audits in from the crack and we'll tell you about
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  Speaker 2: that as well. All coming up, let's go Seattle Kraken,
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  Speaker 2: the much anticipated by fans and media. Frankly more media sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: I think than fans. Audit that the Kraken went through
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  Speaker 2: when they hired a group called Sportsology is overdone complete
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  Speaker 2: and Todd Lai Wiki coming up at twelve twenty today.
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  Speaker 2: Season ticket holders and others that involve with the cracking,
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  Speaker 2: but mostly season ticket members, you're going to get a
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  Speaker 2: link to a video and a letter coming up in
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  Speaker 2: about any second now in your inbox. The video which
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  Speaker 2: I sat down with Todd Lai Wiki and did with him.
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  Speaker 2: You'll you'll have that as well. But we're gonna play
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  Speaker 2: the audio coming up at twelve twenty today, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: just leave it at that. We'll play it, we'll react
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  Speaker 2: to it, let you react to it, and away we go.
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  Speaker 2: So that's coming up exclusively here on ninety three point
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  Speaker 2: audit results or explanations, et cetera. That's coming up at
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  Speaker 2: twelve twenty today. The Mariners start that road trip. Touch
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  Speaker 2: on that a little bit later with Joe Sheen in
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  Speaker 2: the one o'clock hour. Who knows what's going to happen
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  Speaker 2: with the high jinks of one John Lunn four nine
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  Speaker 2: four five one? When will he call in and we'll
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  Speaker 2: be able to reach him? That means absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when I'm here, he's on time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's not That is not accurate in any way,
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  Speaker 2: shape or form. He's on time when he wants to
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  Speaker 2: be on time, or when he remembers very very very
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  Speaker 2: bad short term memory of it for that guy. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what what time will len what time will
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  Speaker 2: we reach one for his two o'clock segment today?
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  Speaker 3: We didn't over under last week of two oh seven. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: and he called in or we got him at two
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  Speaker 3: o three. So, uh, you said that today said a
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  Speaker 3: different line. I'm going, yes, I'm taking the under I
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  Speaker 3: trust him.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're a trusting individual.
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  Speaker 4: Say him.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mention this. Jannis got traded from Milwaukee to
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  Speaker 2: Miami for a boatload of players and a boatload of
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  Speaker 2: draft picks. We touch it on that later, if not
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  Speaker 2: today tomorrow. The world we live in right now is
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  Speaker 2: it's something that, it's something else. The NHL, in the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: In the course of twenty four hours had two of
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  Speaker 2: their biggest stars forced their way out of the situations
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  Speaker 2: they were in to places that they more or less
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  Speaker 2: hand picked. Brady could chuck going from Ottawa to Florida
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  Speaker 2: to play with his brother Matthew to gold medalist the
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  Speaker 2: brothers from the US Olympic team, but Stanley Cup champion
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  Speaker 2: Florida Panthers two times in a row with Matthew, and
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  Speaker 2: Brady wants to play with his brother, and basically his
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  Speaker 2: no trade clause in his contract allowed him to kind
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  Speaker 2: of dictate the terms. And then twenty four hours later,
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  Speaker 2: Miami gets another South Florida gets another star, even a
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  Speaker 2: bigger move in Giannis the Hall that the Miami Heat
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  Speaker 2: gave up far more than what the Florida Panthers gave up,
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  Speaker 2: though we'll get into that maybe a little later. Swords
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  Speaker 2: me real quick, and I want to touch it on
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  Speaker 2: this too. He made his own bet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And he made his own bet and bet, bet
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  Speaker 3: and bet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of bets, ninety of them to be exact.
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  Speaker 2: He he, he is the only one to blame here.
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  Speaker 2: Like I know, I know that there's a lot of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's too bad he can't have an opportunity. No, no, that
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not the case. I mentioned this with with
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  Speaker 2: Greg a moment ago in our crosstalk. I believe, I
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  Speaker 2: truly believe that the NFL did its teams a favor
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  Speaker 2: because there's there's talent there, we don't know what to
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  Speaker 2: what extent. Necessarily, he really kind of an NFL teams
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  Speaker 2: needed to see him play at Texas Tech this year.
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  Speaker 2: Is he worthy of a first round pick? Is he
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  Speaker 2: worthy of a second pround pick, like a Day two pick,
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  Speaker 2: second or third round? What point do you take that risk,
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  Speaker 2: especially not knowing what the in the NFL like not
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  Speaker 2: they don't want you to gam their their statement was
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  Speaker 2: pretty simple, like they don't like people gambling on the
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  Speaker 2: sport either, whether it's their sport or college football. So
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  Speaker 2: I think the NFL kind of did their teams a
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  Speaker 2: favor because whereas there's teams that could use him, that
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  Speaker 2: are looking ahead to next year for a quarterback. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: the Jets at the top of the list, right like
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  Speaker 2: Moswell Tank twenty twenty six get that high pick because
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  Speaker 2: because because the twenty twenty six draft allegedly is gonna
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  Speaker 2: have really good quarterbacks. Now, you never know either the
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NFL draft was supposed to be reloaded
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  Speaker 2: with quarterbacks and a lot of guys Kate club Nick
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  Speaker 2: for example, and nuss Meyer. There's a bunch of dudes
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  Speaker 2: that just fizzled out and weren't any good, and so
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  Speaker 2: you never know. But as of right now, the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: class next year is supposed to be really good. God,
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  Speaker 2: if you get a head start on that and get
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  Speaker 2: Soresby and he is your quarterback in the future, it'd
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  Speaker 2: be great. But you don't know. So the NFL. The
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  Speaker 2: NFL says, no, you're not. You're not. You're not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not. There's no supplemental draft, so the way you go, uh,
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  Speaker 2: he'll have to wait a year. We'll get that a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too, a little bit later as well.
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  Speaker 4: I'm interested to see what he does with the year.
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  Speaker 2: I am too, all right when we come up because
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  Speaker 2: we just actually just call it if you missed it.
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  Speaker 2: We called Farhan Lolgy, who is with tsn UP in Canada,
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  Speaker 2: Canadian Football Hall of Famer covers the CFL, and we
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  Speaker 2: called him live on the air on my cell phone
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  Speaker 2: on the speaker. I think it came through. He says,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't think any CFL team will put him on
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  Speaker 2: the field. I'm sure he's counting. Sowersby's counting on that.
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  Speaker 4: M hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Farhan doesn't think that's going to happen. He says, somebody
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  Speaker 2: will probably put Hi on the negotiation list and they'll
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  Speaker 2: have to go through the process. But it's not like
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  Speaker 2: next week he's gonna be playing in the CFL. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what is it? Just to your point, So just to
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  Speaker 2: your point, what does he do? We're not sure. But again,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, don't bet on your sport. It's really
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  Speaker 2: that simple. It really isn't that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much trouble I would
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  Speaker 3: get in, but I don't even do factor fiction on
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  Speaker 3: call football because of my relation to the sport.
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  Speaker 2: I have a contract with the local hockey team.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of that contract it says point blank
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  Speaker 2: and it's all everybody that works there, if you work
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  Speaker 2: if and it says you cannot wager on the National
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  Speaker 2: Hockey League period. End of story. To the point where
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  Speaker 2: when Softy tries to get stuff out, I don't. I
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  Speaker 2: can't tell you. I take that serious. I like the job,
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  Speaker 2: and also they take that stuff serious. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: very simple. Just don't do it. And it's not like
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  Speaker 2: I don't wager on other stuff. So'll call me Casino
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's plenty.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of that on the SUW
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  Speaker 2: Brendan Sorsby. There's a lot of sports you can bet on.
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  Speaker 2: College football should not have been one of them. Simple
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  Speaker 2: as that. All Right, we'll take a break four nine
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  Speaker 2: audit results from the Cracking.
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  Speaker 6: Do I have to talk it all during that show?
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  Speaker 2: Or am I good? Can I just have a beer
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  Speaker 2: Good? Perfect? I'm supposed to be there, so we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if I.
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  Speaker 4: Think you will be well.
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  Speaker 2: My role is all right, Well, the draft is on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Cracking have already made some moves in this offseason, and
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  Speaker 2: some may or may not be related to what you're
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  Speaker 2: going to hear in just a couple of seconds, and
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  Speaker 2: that would be Todd light Wicki, the CEO of the Kraken,
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  Speaker 2: who oversaw at least the hiring of a group called
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  Speaker 2: sport Ortology. And if you just go back in time
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, when the Kraken season ended in April,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the year, Todd and Jason Bottrell
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  Speaker 2: and Laye Lambert and players all answered questions, and the
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  Speaker 2: questions basically surrounded the following what went wrong? You went
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  Speaker 2: into the Olympic break in a playoff position. You ended
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  Speaker 2: the season out of a playoff position for the fourth
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  Speaker 2: time in five years. And at the time Todd said
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  Speaker 2: and made the statement, you know, we're going to make
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  Speaker 2: this right. We need to get better. He talked about
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  Speaker 2: hiring an outside firm to do what they called what
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  Speaker 2: he called an audit of the hockey operations at for
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle Kraken, and at the time kind of it
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  Speaker 2: raised some eyebrows outside, what huh? Then you kind of
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  Speaker 2: do a little research. The group they hired, a group
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  Speaker 2: called Sportsology, has done this a lot for some very
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  Speaker 2: successful franchises in other sports as well. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: looking at a roster necessarily saying, wow, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: a true number one center. Who is your top pair defenseman?
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  Speaker 2: Is it really Larsen and done? Should it be Monte?
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  Speaker 2: It's not roster. It's how you construct the roster. It's
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  Speaker 2: how you develop players, it's how you scout. Is everybody connected?
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  Speaker 2: And they needed to find out from an outside source
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  Speaker 2: if it was good, if it was working. I've been,
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  Speaker 2: i will say slightly amused on social media over the
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  Speaker 2: last few weeks, the stress and consternation for so many
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  Speaker 2: When are we going to hear something? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Is audit done? It's been done for a while, and
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  Speaker 2: I think you've already seen some of the fruits of
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  Speaker 2: the labor of that. But today, just moments ago, if
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  Speaker 2: you're a crack and season ticket holder, you received a
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  Speaker 2: letter from Todd and the organization and a link to
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  Speaker 2: a video of which the audio we're going to play
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  Speaker 2: here in a second is on there, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to play that and we'll let and we'll react to it.
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  Speaker 2: On the other side, they asked me, just so everyone
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  Speaker 2: knows full transparency. They asked me if I would sit
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  Speaker 2: down with Todd and interview him effectively, but talk to
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  Speaker 2: him about the audit and so it wasn't just him
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  Speaker 2: speaking for however long. And I said, absolutely, whatever you
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  Speaker 2: need and so I did so. So without further ado,
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  Speaker 2: here it is the results, so to speak, from the
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  Speaker 2: Kraken audit with CEO Todd Lightwiki. Well, I'm here with
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  Speaker 2: Krack and CEO Todd l Wiki and Todd just a
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  Speaker 2: couple months ago you said, Hey, we're going to go
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  Speaker 2: do effectively what would be considered a deep dive an
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  Speaker 2: audit so to speak in terms of the organization, the
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  Speaker 2: hockey organization and not so much the players the roster
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  Speaker 2: behind us. But basically what it is is through the
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  Speaker 2: whole organization to find out how connected you guys are,
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  Speaker 2: what maybe needs to happen.
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  Speaker 7: Can you walk us through what were you.
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  Speaker 2: Looking for with sportsology that came in and did it
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  Speaker 2: and what did they find?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was you know, it was another pledge we
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  Speaker 8: made that we were going to turn over every stone
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  Speaker 8: and we looked far and wide for the right group
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  Speaker 8: and I think we landed on what we didn't want
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  Speaker 8: was an echo chamber. We didn't want to round up
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  Speaker 8: friends or associates people the hockey business that you know
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  Speaker 8: for years, and I have friends, and I got calls.
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  Speaker 8: But we landed on a group that had no bus
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  Speaker 8: and we directed them to turn every stone to ask
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  Speaker 8: the hard questions. They have an incredible track record. I
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  Speaker 8: know about them when I was at the NFL. We
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  Speaker 8: did reference checks. They came in and they did exactly
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  Speaker 8: what we wanted. Phase one is now done. We learned
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  Speaker 8: a lot. We came away inspired because there are things
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  Speaker 8: we're doing well. They believe that Samantha Holloway and our
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  Speaker 8: ownership have done an incredible job of giving.
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  Speaker 7: Us the resource. But there were gaps.
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  Speaker 8: And you know the old book Good to Great that
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  Speaker 8: submits it's harder to go from good to great that
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  Speaker 8: it is from not good to good came true and
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  Speaker 8: it really caused us to pause and say, well, this
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  Speaker 8: is something that's part of our DNA. This is how
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  Speaker 8: we were going to go build this. We're not the best.
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  Speaker 8: What are those gaps? What are the shortcomings of how
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  Speaker 8: do we fix it? And I'm going to be careful
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  Speaker 8: about not revealing too many trade secrets here because what
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying can be disseminated to other teams. But I
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  Speaker 8: will go into some of that and we can maybe
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  Speaker 8: talk about development.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that, because I mean people want
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  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, they found some things. It probably doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter what business we're in, right, you can always find
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  Speaker 2: improvements and do things better. And I mean I think
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  Speaker 2: every people have annual reviews or they bring consultants in.
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  Speaker 2: And this feels like much more to deep dive. So
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  Speaker 2: a fan sitting at home right now is asking, that's great,
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  Speaker 2: you did a deep dive. You look through all these things.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to reveal everything, but maybe some tangible things.
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  Speaker 2: Your GM's in place, your coach is in place, you
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  Speaker 2: have made some additions. Maybe those are some of the
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  Speaker 2: tangible things. We could talk about player development, all those things.
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  Speaker 2: But what did you see? What did you find? What
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  Speaker 2: did the organization find that you need to work on?
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  Speaker 2: And what changes do you think that can you discuss
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  Speaker 2: that have been made.
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  Speaker 8: One area I would say was development because we've prided ourselves,
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  Speaker 8: we believe that we have.
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  Speaker 7: An excellent group of prospects.
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  Speaker 8: We have set it up in Coachella Valley to be
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  Speaker 8: the ultimate American Hockey League team, and so that whole
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  Speaker 8: development piece we're pushing it. We're going to push it
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  Speaker 8: from top to bottom. And it's prospects who might be
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  Speaker 8: playing juniors, playing college, it's prospects that are at the
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: American Hockey League level, and it's actual players that are
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: on our current roster.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: And we've already started. We've added staff.
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: You know, we have an assistant coach who had incredible
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: success in developing players in the American Hockey League. Pascale
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: is going to be an amazing addition to that coaching staff.
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: We have a formed player coming back, Coach Schultz. Now
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: a player becomes a coach and he's a development coach.
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: We're investing in additional staff positions. Out of this will
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: be a whole number of additions we're going to make
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: to our development team, our player development team, fitness, conditioning, nutrition,
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: because we don't want to be good at it, we
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: want to be the best. And to be honest with you,
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: I think that we if we had made the playoffs.
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: Now looking back, some of these challenges might have prohibited
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: us from going deep. And now we realize that the
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: work we've done, there is a path for us to
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: dream about being better than we ever would have been
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: had we not done what we've done here.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: What's your message to fans now that you've gone through
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: this process and you have as an organization committed to
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: me making changes in additions and doing what you can,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: what would you tell fans as they get ready for
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: what should be an exciting off season here in the
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: next few weeks, but also the next season which starts
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: later this fall.
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: Well, we're not happy. We made promises, we made pledges
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: and we came up short. We owere fans better, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: we're deeply committed to getting this right because all the
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: pieces are here to build one of the great franchises
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: in the National Hockey League. We believe in our fans,
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: we believe in this market, we believe in our arena,
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: and we actually believe in the people leading this. But
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: they've got to do better. We've got to empower them
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: with better direction, with more resource, with more people, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: you're seeing it happen in real time. It is happening,
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: and we have had a very very productive two months
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: since the end of the season.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It should be an eventful few weeks coming up as
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: well as we headed into the drafts, free agency, and.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: So much more. Thank you bet.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: That is Toddlight Wiki. So I know that there's probably
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: people have questions, maybe even more questions now after that. Again,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: if you're a season ticket member holder, you'll be getting
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that link and you'll have a letter and some other things.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: But I believe what they did was productive.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have questions before our listeners get to it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: You that was five minutes of you know, out of
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: multiple times you've been down there, multiple meetings that you've
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: had in a very long conversation, you have a talk.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: If you could synopsize it for me and our audience,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: What did you learn from that?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I think Number one, there's a commitment to winning that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: fans need to know exists. It's not about listen what
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: they do off the ice, the community and engagement involvement.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: That's the organization has done, you know, whether whether it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the sport courts won they just opened one in the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: South End a few weeks ago, whether it's being leaders
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: in the community, the Common Thread Nights which recognize underserved
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: portions of our community and those that are sometimes stigmatized.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Which they have gone above and beyond.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: They they do a remarkable job with that and rightfully
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: so and makes you know, those of us who work
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: for them proud. I think it's great. You know, we
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: don't have issues like other organizations and other sports with
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Pride Night. It's something that's embraced by the entire organization
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: or whatever, Indigenous People Night, etc. It's really one of
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the awesome things that we're able to do. Building and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: being a part of Memorial Stadium's demolition, restoration and building
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a back up the new rank being built on the
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: east side. More and more kids are able to play
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the facility itself. With all the rinks out there where
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it's twenty four to seven, there's adults and youth playing
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: hockey and figure skating all the time. They do a
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: great job with all those things and game night presentations.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: You go to a game, you're entertained, all those things,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: are ready.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: To get there early every time. It's amazing.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: But don't lose sight of the biggest goal of all
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: for the professional sports organization, the NHL team, that's a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: crack and that is winning. That's the priority. Winning is
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the priority, and I more than ever after sitting down
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: with Todd and other members of the leadership group as
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: we prepared to do this video and as we got
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: ready to go through the process, and what are the questions?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And and they gave it to me, what can you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you know? What do you want to ask? And yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we cut it down to five minutes. We talked for
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: a long time before we even turn the cameras on,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: and and those five minutes I think do a good
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: job of summarizing where we are.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I do believe Jess that when the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: word was out, hey we're going to do an audit,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and there were questions, and I think a lot of
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: people will say, Okay, well who's getting fired? Heads will roll.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Let's see some tangible changes. Frankly, there have been quite
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a few. Some are public, some are not. There's people,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: there's there's fourteen departments in the hockey operation side of
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the think about that, there's fourteen different departments in hockey operations.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: There have been changes made already, but a lot of
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: it was just philosophy. How can we be connected, How
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: can this group be connected to this group, whether it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: pro scouting, the amateur scouting, player development to ROI and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: all the different things how do they all kind of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: come together and get connected and I think making sure
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that everyone's for lack of a better term, it connected
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: as a big hockey term these days. Hell here in
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the World Cup, lack of a better term, is everybody
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: on the same page? Are we all working together? And
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Todd mentioned it there there were some gaps, there were
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: some things that need to be cleaned up. There were
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: some things they could do better. Player development is one
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of those things. He also and he pointed it out
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in that video and with me numerous times. As I'm
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: asking the questions that I think a fan would want
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: to ask, he says, we're not going to give out
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: all everything we can't That makes no sense. And I'll
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: just use this. I'll use this comparison because I said,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: does this work? And he said yes. John Schneider is
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: not going to tell the world how they go out
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and build not one, but two Super Bowl championship teams.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna go out and tell everyone this is
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: now every year the draft comes from. Now we talk, Oh,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: we like gouys, hey, brother, you know, we like guys
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that compete hard about but they don't really tell you
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: how the sausage is made the only day, you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the only person outside the organization knows how the sausage
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: is made would be Pete Carroll and Nolan Teasley, who Tinsley,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: who's now the GM in Minnesota, Like those guys know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn knows because he was here. But they're not
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: gonna tell everybody. Here's what we found, and here's what
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do better, here's what we're gonna change. They're
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: not gonna be specific with that. So fans wanted that,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: or they want to find out that five people got fired,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that's just not going to happen. But I can assure
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you and I have all the confidence in the world
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that winning hockey games, being a Stanley Cup contender at
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: some point, hopefully very soon, is the number one priority
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to Samantha Holloway, the rest of the owners, to Todd LIGHTWICKI,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Rob Lanman, Victor de Bonas, all the people that are
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: in the leadership positions in that organization, Winning hockey games
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: is the priority. It is the priority, and it'll and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: he mentioned it. Samantha always said, what do I need
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to do? You need this position, add to that group,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: add to that department. Yes, yes, yes, and yes all
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: those things have happened or are in the process of happening,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and I think that's an important thing to understand. You're
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: not going to see necessarily the changes. Being really transparent
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: as a professional sports organization, I think is a really
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: delicate balance because when you do so, again, there's proprietary
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: information that you don't want out there. And you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I can look at Vegas and Kelly
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: McCrimmon in the Vegas gold Knights and I can see
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: him sit up on the podium. We played the audio
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: last week and be all pompous and nobody everybody wants
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to come play here. Florida just did the same thing
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: with Bertie Could Chuck held the Miami Heat, and the
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: NBA did the same thing with you. Honest, there's certain
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: places they don't have to tell you how. The sausage
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: just made us pretty simple. It's where do you live?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Where's the team located? One tangible thing I will say,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: is this the battle that Seattle and probably twenty six
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: twenty seven other teams battle in the National Hockey League
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: is perception. Is it a place you want to play?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: How's the weather in the city? Do we want to
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: be there? In the winter time. Do we want to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: be there in the off season, How do they treat
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the players, How are the facilities all those things?
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: And when I move my family there and do they win?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Those things come into play. Well, if you want to
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: hint at how things are going so far, the fact
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: that Bobby McMahon re signed here before he hit free
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: agency on July first, and probably could have made at
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: least a little bit more money and maybe gone to
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a more ready made Stanley Cup contender. I think that
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: tells you that the perception is improving. That's a good
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: sign as far as other things are concerned. Player development's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a huge deal. Todd talked about that, and that's a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: big thing. Yes, they've brought a lot of guys up
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: from their minor league team and for the draft picks
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: over the years, you know, I mean you look through
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the lineup right now, there's a ton of guys. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: think we had nine or ten last year at one point.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I'm off by a couple of my apologies, But how
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: do you develop the guys that are still in Coachella?
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: How do you develop the guys that are you drafted
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Jcobrian last year he played the entire year in the
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Ontario Hockey League. You drafted him high number eight overall,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: seven over eight overall. Was he developing at the right pace?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Did you have people out there watching him and making
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe not? Those are things they can improve one.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So at the end, I would just tell cracking fans
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the exercise they did was not. The exercise they did
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: was with a great purpose and had great results, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of good is going to come out of it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: If you wanted to hear about eighteen people getting fired,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that wasn't going to happen today, and it wasn't going
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to happen two months ago in April when he first
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: brought it up. But there have been changes. There have
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: been changes to the organization, more additions and subtractions at
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Patrick Alvin, certainly new assistant coach, certainly Justin Schultz coming
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: back to help defenceman develop gout that played here and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: wanted to come back here. That's a good sign too.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, that's what it is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: The proof comes starting late September next year. Actually the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: proof actually started already making a trade to make yourself better,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: signing a player who was your top unrestricted free agent
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and really your number one, and I'm not even sure
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: if there's a number two, to be honest with you,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: he was it. They got that done. What else is
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: going to happen pre draft? During the draft when we're
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: out there Friday at thirty two, Barn and Groob will
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: find out. But my time sitting down with Todd and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: others out there, I can I can tell you this
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that they want to win. It's not about listen. Yes,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: it's about common thread nights. Yes, it's about recognizing someone
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: every night as a hero of the deep and donating
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: thirty two thousand dollars to their foundations. Yes, it's recognizing
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: community leaders. Yes, it's recognizing those that are underserved. Yes,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: all those things. They are a steward of the community,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. It's about that. But at
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, the professional sports organization and
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: any National Hockey League team, it's pro sports and winning
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: is what matters. And I am convinced more so than
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I've ever been in the five years that winning is
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: their number one priority and they will do whatever it
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: takes to get there. And if the people in place
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: don't get it done, they'll find other people. It will
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: it's really simple. Hell, it's the same way for us
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: in the broadcasting, so it doesn't matter. They will find
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the best people they can and if you're not good enough,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: they'll get ready and you'll just move on. They want
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to be the best. Tod Can said that over and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: over again. We're good.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: We want to be great. How to be great? Well,
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: they had an exercise.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It spent a lot of money and they decide brought
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: somebody in from the outside end to say, how can
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: we be great? And that's what they want to be.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: If you're a fan, you're sitting at home right now
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: saying whatever, it's a bunch of word salad. That's fine,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: prove it to me. Absolutely. Let's see what happens over
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the next few months. All right, four nine, four or
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: five to one. Talkbacks open as well on the iHeartRadio
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: app read microphone fire away. We'll touch back in on this,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: probably even read a couple of your texts on this.
• 29:35
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• 29:38
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• 29:54
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• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Text line is fun. I expected that, so we'll get
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to that coming up at two thirty.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I like the passion.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good way to go. Had glass half full? There, my,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: your glasses always half full. Passion, There is no doubt.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: There is passion. There is passion, lots of passion, all
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: kinds of passion. Oh yeah, I'll read some of these
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: later on. Appreciate all of your feedback. Yep, that's good.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I'm yeah, okay, yeah, exactly what I expected. Okay, the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I want to get to Soresby just for a second.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I saw this earlier because in amongst the in amongst
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the fun texts we're getting right now after the Toddline, Wiki,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: sound and interview, I saw one about Brendan Soresby, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: someone asked, if you're just missing that, if you're just
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: joining us Brendon Soorsby, who is the supposed to be
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the quarterback this season? To the tune of about six
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: million dollars, anil deal at Texas Tech wentz when everyone
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: started pushing back in Cuba. Then he got an injunction
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: from the local court. Then the Big twelve sued him,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and then it was just the only people winning in
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: this case were the lawyers with the billable hours. There's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of billable hours for Brendan Soresby, lots and
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: lots of billable hours. So as that was going on,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: finally he just said, screw it, I'm gonna I'm tapping out.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the NFL supplemental The supplemental draft deadline,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I believe is what's today twenty third. I think it's tomorrow,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: twenty fourth. But he got ahead of it last week
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and said, I'm just gonna I'm dropping that. I'm gonna
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: go to the NFL and most and he's an NFL
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: caliber He's a draftable NFL player, Like caliber wise, how
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: good he is, he's an NFL caliber player, how good
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: nobody knows. Really probably needed to play this year in
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: high level college football. Big twelve Texas Tech is a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: team that's going to contend probably for a national championship
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: at least a playoff Berth with him there, so he
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: needed to get that in there. He didn't, but people
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: were asking, like, why is the league preventing him from
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: joining the NFL. Well, the league says, we're not going
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to hold a supplemental draft. He would have been the
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: only player in it. They don't have a supplemental draft
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: every year. Special occasions warrant that at times, and he
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: was going to be in it, and they said no.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Sharen Williams is by her own right of Hall of Famer.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: She's in the Writer's section of the Pro Football Hall
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: of Fame. Longtime NFL writer Sharen Williams has covered the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: league for thirty years. She was asked that question. I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: going to read what she said because I think it's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: important to understand why. You know, first of all, it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: their league. If they can tell you you can't play,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I mean you can open up more lawsuits and more
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: bill of ble houers. I guess if you want. But
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: why is why he's not broken? The question was why
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: is he not? He's not broken any NFL rules, wisely
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: preventing him from joining the NFL. Shraane william says the
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: following The NFL updated its personal Conduct Policy in twenty
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: twenty three to explicitly assert the authority to investigate and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: discipline perspective players for misconduct that occurred in college. New
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: personal conduct policy opens the door the discipline for pre
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: NFL misconduct. So in other words, if he's been a
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: dummy before he got to the NFL with whatever it is,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: then we might be able to we might penalize him,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and maybe more importantly, there could be suspensions involved. All
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: those things everyone wants to do and say what they're
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you know what what you know? Like they want to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: find out what this kid's all about, spending a first
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: round draft pick on him and finding out later that
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: he suspended for the first eight ten games of the
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: year by the NFL, which they would probably try to do.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So that's why, at the end of the day, he
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: bet on his own team while playing college football, even
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: if he wasn't playing in the game or expected to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: play in the game. He bet on his own team.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And if you can't, if you can't trust that the
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: results on the field in high level competition are legitimate,
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  Speaker 2: then you've lost everything in professional sports or college sports
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you just have. And that's what he did. He took
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  Speaker 2: away the trust that you, as a fan would have.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: The integrity of the game was jet was basically put
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: in question, and he asked to pay a price for that,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and I mean, just think about it for a second.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Allowing him just to a walk back into college football
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: next year that could never have happened, and b allowing
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: him just to saunter into the NFL without a real
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: thorough investigation by the NFL and NFL teams and who
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and what this guy's all about that was going to happen.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: NFL's not going to dirty their hands with that. The
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: shield's more important than anything. We know that. I was
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: more surprised last week and I kept hearing all there's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be a supplemental draft, that guy's going to be involved,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Really like, are we sure? And now we find out
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• 36:31
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• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Nfella's informed Brendan Soorsby he will not be available or not,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: they will not hold a supplemental draft this season. You're out,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: sores beep, got to wait a year. Storm lost again
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: last night, ten straight. They dropped a three and fifteen
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: on the year. Paige Beckers might have heard of her.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: She's really good at basketball. For the Dallas team, Dallas Wings.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: She had eight points to the final one to twelve
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: of regulation in the fourth quarter to force overtime and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: then Dallas wins it overtime. Good news. Oh for the Storm,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: they got a really good player, young Dominique Maloga. She
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: had thirty seven points on the night. I watched the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter of that with Faine Alyssa and I don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: know who the hell with the other guy was on
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the broadcast out to ask Fane when he gets in
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: like some dude. They kept calling him coach. I don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: know who the coach was. Never heard of him, never
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: heard the guy.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: To be fair, I call people coach all the time.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Well he was a coach, but you just don't know who,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: no idea. But you know what I do know, Paige
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Beckers is really good at basketball. Yeah, but so is
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Dominique Malonga like she'll be she'll be good for the storm. Well, hell,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: she's already good thirty seven last night she was unstoppable.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: They may need to get her the ball in overtime more.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: But that's just me. I'm not a coach. I should
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: ask coach who's on the broadcast.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well ask me about it.
• 38:05
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  Speaker 2: All right, renumber two the show. There we go, moving along. Oh,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the text line is fun today.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like the passion.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let me just let me read this real fast.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: This is from the three six area code. Poor choice
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: on k kjr's parts present this limited info in the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: formative interview with Todd. At the point you realize you
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to get details from Todd, you should
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: have simply summarize what he said on the air. This
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: is the worst kind of tease for the listeners. We
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: expect bet Or that's not the kind of radio journalism.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: The fact you spent more time making excuses. Let me
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: let me explain again. That's that's the video. There's no
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: there's that's the one the season ticket holders got. That's
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the one I believe they. I'm sure they've posted it
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: by now they did. Okay, that's the video. We played
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: it in its entirety. I asked the questions. I asked
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: the questions that I thought need to be asked. If
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing and I listened, I totally
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: be I. I a hundred percent expected there to be
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: big blowback. And I told Todd that. I told everyone
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: in that leadership group when we were meeting, you're gonna
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: get pushed back people because people want Here's what they wanted.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: People wanted heads to roll, they wanted to come in,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: you know what they wanted. This is what people wanted.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Rebuild.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Well, and again, somebody define what a rebuild is for me,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for that four nine four to five went
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: tell me what to rebuild this I love. Tell me
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: what a rebuild is. Listen, every organization is afraid to
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: say that word. By the way, like and doesn't matter
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: what sport I mean, how long did the Mariners resist
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: doing that with Dipoto reimagine da da, Like, let's just
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: come up with new words. But what is a rebuilt? Well,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: when you already have a bunch of young players that
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: are making their way up, who are you getting rid
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: of to rebuild? Like, that's it? Like you you retool
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and your roster is revamped every year, just natural attrition
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: in sports. We'll just use the Super Bowl champions for example.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You know new quarterback right in Sam Darnold last year
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: they moved on from Rust and they moved on from Geno.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Does that mean it's a rebuild? Not necessarily. You've got
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: a bunch of drafted players. You'll also have guys that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you've had here for a while. I mean your two left,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: your left and right tackles you drafted five years ago, right,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: your number one receiver you drafted four years ago, three
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: four years ago, right. Whenever, it was like you're always
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: adding and there's always natural attrition. When I hear the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: word rebuild, well, first of all, you've got to be
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: committed to winning to rebuild. Like, there's a lot of
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: baseball to austrill that, like, what's a rebuild?
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, perspective, because I mean, the.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Murder is effectively rebuilt, but part of it was Guy.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: They had Guy's internally coming up. Julio was coming up,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: cal was coming up, right.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more of the natural attrition that you're talking about.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I've always and I'm not trying
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to be dismissive. I'm not trying to be smug. I've
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: just never quite understood the term rebuilt because I hear
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it often. Actually, you know what, Hell, I just talked it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I don't even think by their own choice, the Stormer rebuilding,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: that's a rebuild. They literally lost everybody from last year
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: that was worth a dam in terms of veterans, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: they bring back Dominique. She's a stud and Ala fom
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Right is the rookie this year. I mean she's better
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: than flaw Jea, who they traded for. That's part of
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: a rebuild. They rebuilt easier. In basketball, you got five
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: players on the floor. Hell, what's what did the storm
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: have twelve on their roster? That's a rebuild. Okay, I
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: just defined it for myself. Thank you, Ian, I talked
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: your way. But in other organizations, like when you have
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: a farm system, and so forth. You're naturally rebuilding all
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the time. So I hear that rebuild stuff a lot.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: But I knew there was going to be pushed back.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I think what people wanted as a heads rule, I
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: think they want to say, hey, you know what, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: know that Bots has just been on the job for
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: basically a year as the GM fire his ass. Let's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: get let's get the let's get the fourth head coach
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: in six years. Let's get a little rid of Lane.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Let's do that, guys. It doesn't take a lot to
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: look around. They've already they got rid of somebody, I mean,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: mutual or not. She's not here anymore on the.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Bench, and people took issue with her too.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Right, so like like they've made changes. I understand the pushback,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to push back too hard. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: would just say the video that you saw or you heard,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that's the video that they put out. I was tasked
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: with sitting down with Todd, and I would do it
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: exactly the same again. And I know you wanted more,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: but I think what you wanted more of was Todd
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: coming out and saying, here's what we decided to do.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: We fired our entire scouting staff, a week before the draft. Right,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: we also fired Lane Lambert, and we got rid of
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Jason Bottroll, Alexander Mandricky, Ricky Olchek all our sistant GMS.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We got rid of our We got rid of everybody
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Ian got bad news. We got rid of you. Benton stays.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Everyone else goes in the broadcast department, everyone's gone. We're
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: going to hire an entire new marketing and ticketing staff.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Everyone is out. Our office is now empty. We're starting fresh,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: we're rebuilding. We want everyone fired. That wasn't going to happen.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: They've already made changes. Most of the changes are additions.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: So I understand the frustration. I understand the pushback. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: totally expected that. I don't know if they did, but
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I did. I knew it was going to come. But
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: canned response, blah blah blah. Trust me, that guy doesn't
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: do anything canned. And that guy being toddlight wiki everything
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: he does with with a purpose. So I'll just I'll
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: kind of we'll play it again at one through the
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: daily power play. It's only five minutes. We'll play it again.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: You can take a listen and and then feel free
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: to yell and scream and four nine four or five one.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Also the talkbacks are there too.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, please be gentle so that I don't
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: want to edit too much it.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Don't cass on it, but just go ahead and fire
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: off you want to fire off, and if you want to,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: if you want to, and if you want to go
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: after Todd or me, that's fine. We're big boys. We
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: can handle it. That's that's all good. You want to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: go after the organization, do that as well. Fans, I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: would be I would actually, I'll tell you this, Jess.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I think I would have been a lot more disappointed
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: if I looked on the text line and I didn't
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: see anything agreed. I'm actually now that I think about
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: it more and more.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: The passion that we're seeing, I'm.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: You're mad, you're pissed, you want changes, you're calling me names.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm really glad that that's the case, because
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you care. If you didn't, I would think, you know what,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: that'd be a bigger problem. You want this team to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: be good. The one thing I thought was interesting, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get a chance to do it today,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: and we'll probably spend some more time to morrow on this.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Somebody says you know, what the hell's wrong with them?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: If they really were serious about winning. I'm paraphrasing the text.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: They're serious about winning, they go out and find a superstar, okay,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: because that happens easy. And you know it's even easier
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: than finding a superstar keeping a superstar. Autawa Senators Milwaukee Bucks.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Today they lost a two time MVP of Finals, MVP
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, multif they lost a first
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer, and you honest, because he was
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: done in Milwaukee, and he gave him a list of
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: like three teams he would go to. Maybe it's just
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: too might have just been my well, I think Clipper's,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Miami and Boston.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Boston was definitely there.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: And I can tell you one Celtics fand that is
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: very happy he didn't land that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Well, because here's the thing, the Hall that you had
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: to give up, and with the Hall that that Miami
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: gave up like four starters.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think it is.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And a ton of first round picks, which, by the way,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: in the NBA matters like more so than any sport,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the fifth of your team, Yeah, more so than any sports.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I'd say a first round pick in the NBA matters
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: more so than the NFL even agreed. So yeah, like like, yeah,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: every team wants superstars. The problem today's listen, the players
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: have so much power in sports today, especially the NBA,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: in the NHL, the NHL even more so. Like everyone's
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: got it. If you don't have a no trade clause
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and then there's something wrong with you, that's like that's
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: a big that's a red flag for you as a player.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: If you don't have no trade clause and you're on
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: your second, second, or third.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Contract, you should know better by that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, first contracts, you're not getting one first your rookie contract,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: like Berkeley Catton doesn't have no trade clause. He signed
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: a rookie standard key contract. But you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean every team wants superstars, right. I've
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: always challenged people, who is a real true move the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: needle superstar.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: For the Seahawks for the Seahawks's.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: JSN based on one year, Yeah, based on one year.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: But if you were to pull NFL fans around the country,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: like you just pull NFL fans around the country, give
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: me the top three four receivers in the NFL. How
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: often does his name show up probably not too often.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: No, he's not that, which is weird because he just
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: And the Offensive Player of the.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Year Defensive Player of the Year according to.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: The jeff But you know what I'm saying, Like, you
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: know what you're saying.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: But I just feel like.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: That we're gonna say Jamar Chase, right of course, right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna go down the list. They're gonna
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: go They're gonna go down three or four before you
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: get five, maybe before you get to him, Yeah, justin Jefferson.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: But who is probably gonna get mentioned before him, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you can go through the whole list. My point is this,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: everyone wants superstars, you don't necessarily st to have. Sometimes
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: you don't need a superstar to win. See X kind
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of prove that the.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Show, right, you don't need the one in two guys been.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Withersman is yet to be a first team All Pro.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: We all think of him as being the be all
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to end on, one of the greatest players on the team.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: He's really good. The top one hundred players in the
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: NFL just starting to come out. Ernest Jones is like
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: ninety seven. Okay, how let's see let's see how many
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are on that and who the highest guy is.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: It's all about Jess Jameson. He'll be the highest guy.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: But he won't be the highest But he won't be
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the highest wide receiver.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: No, he won't.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Not a chance, and you wonder why, and so yeah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: superstar is kind of one of those slippery terms that
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: can be used in certain cases.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go. Well, I'll take a break. Joshi
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: enjoyed us.
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  Speaker 2: Raina is back, which apparently without him, they are one
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  Speaker 2: of the worst offensive teams in baseball, as was proven
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  Speaker 2: the last ten plus days or so. But I so
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the story you just dropped like an hour ago, wasn't
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  Speaker 2: there this morning?
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: The No Country for young men. I am fascinated by
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: this because I think it kind of flew under the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: radar a little bit. The talk about changing how Major
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: League Baseball drafts. Let me start there, Joe for a second.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: What is the conversation like right now? What are people?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: What's Major League Baseball telling people they may end up
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: doing with the draft.
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: Well, MLB has.
• 50:17
  Speaker 11: Proposed to more or less make the MLB draft like
• 50:20
  Speaker 11: the NBA at NFL drafts, only collegians would be eligible.
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  Speaker 11: You'd have to spend two years in college and be
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: at least twenty years old by that September. So some
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: guys actually get stuck three years out of high school.
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  Speaker 11: And what it is, it's the way for them to
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: lessen the expenses of scouting and some development. Think about it, now,
• 50:40
  Speaker 11: you've got a scout high schoolers all over the country.
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: Last year, nineteen of the forty three first round picks
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: were out of high school the one to one the
• 50:48
  Speaker 11: first pick in the draft was an Oklahoma high school kid.
• 50:51
  Speaker 11: And what you do is you say, Okay, we're going
• 50:53
  Speaker 11: to not have to bother with that. We're only going
• 50:55
  Speaker 11: to have to draft actually the scout college kids and
• 50:58
  Speaker 11: international amateurs. And get to that for with a second.
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: You also reduce the draft to twelve rounds. You're eliminating
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: a huge cost structure for MLB and a lot of
• 51:07
  Speaker 11: jobs and a lot of travel that it would normally
• 51:09
  Speaker 11: take going to Bfemntanada to scout that kid that you
• 51:13
  Speaker 11: heard about. You're turning over a lot.
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: Of development to colleges too. And it's funny.
• 51:18
  Speaker 11: Thirty years ago that would have been laughed at the
• 51:20
  Speaker 11: idea that colleges could develop players as well as the
• 51:22
  Speaker 11: low minors. But colleges have gotten better about that and
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: teams are mostly just looking to cut costs here. As
• 51:28
  Speaker 11: part of this deal, they're promising to not cut major
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: league teams in twenty minor league teams in twenty thirty.
• 51:34
  Speaker 11: But fundamentally, if you're only drafting twelve guy, twelve domestic
• 51:37
  Speaker 11: players and twelve foreign players a year, you're going to
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: eventually have fewer players to staff the minor league. So
• 51:42
  Speaker 11: down the road, MLB will support be supporting two small
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: fewer minor league teams at all likely, So it is
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: just largely a way to cut cost their proposal. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 11: then on the back end, hean if you're not letting
• 51:55
  Speaker 11: guys into the system until they're twenty twenty one, then
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: they're not going to get to the major leagues until
• 52:00
  Speaker 11: they're twenty two or twenty three.
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: They're not going to reach free agency.
• 52:03
  Speaker 11: Until they're twenty eight or twenty nine. And if you
• 52:06
  Speaker 11: think about all of the big, really big money that
• 52:09
  Speaker 11: guys have made over the years, the biggest contracts, they
• 52:11
  Speaker 11: all come when a guy gets to free agency at
• 52:13
  Speaker 11: twenty five, twenty six, sometimes twenty seven. Soto, Alex Rodriguez,
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: Manny Machado, Bryce Harper, all of the biggest contracts, not all,
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: most of the biggest contracts in baseball history were signed
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: by players at twenty six and twenty seven, And this
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: eliminates that players aren't going to be able to get
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: to free agency until they're twenty eight or twenty nine,
• 52:31
  Speaker 11: so free agency becomes cheaper for teams as well. This
• 52:34
  Speaker 11: saves team's money on the front, it saves teams money
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: on the back, and frankly, it separates the game from
• 52:40
  Speaker 11: its history. I don't have to tell Mariner fans about
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: what it was like to watch a nineteen year old
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: King Griffey Junior or an eighteen year old Alex Rodriguez.
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: This is a big part of the game's history.
• 52:49
  Speaker 11: Al Caline mel had Mickey Manton superstars getting to the
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: major leagues at nineteen and twenty and in grabbing our attention,
• 52:56
  Speaker 11: and that would simply never happen again.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When I first heard about it and saw it,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, it makes all the sense in the world.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: We're you know, drafting high school kids, and it makes
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: and and then as you articulated just now and also
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: in your story, it does completely transform how the history
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: of the game has looked. With the examples, and I
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: mean we've got two of them here, right, I mean,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: it's just it's very simple. With a Rod and Ken
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Griffey Junior. I'm so old, Joe. Like, you know, if
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the older you get, you forget stuff, right, like you
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: just forget stuff. Jess will tell you I forget things
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: all the time. No you don't, you're yeah, Isaac, thanks, Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I I.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Remember as a young lad, I had just started working
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: as a sports producer at the ABC affiliate here Como
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: TV as producing for a legendary guy named Bruce King.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: And those are the days in in television when you
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: would set up live shots. Actually I was in producing that,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I was actually driving the live truck. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: was setting up live equipment microwave we called it back then,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: and and we had to bounce like a microwave signal
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: from the field in the Kingdome to the third deck
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: and then that run a cable outside. It hit a
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: tower up on Queen Anne, and I was setting up
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the cables. I was on the field for the first
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: time that a guy by the name of Ken Griffy
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Junior rolled into the Kingdome and did a press availability
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: after being drafted and took a few swings in the
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: cage and Joe, as I say, I forget things, you
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: know what I don't forget watching seventeen, eighteen year old
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: King Griffy Junior step into that batting cage. I believe
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Dick Williams was the manager at the time, and watching
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: this dude launch ball after ball after ball into the
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: upper deck with ease that you don't see from anybody
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: else on that team in batting practice, and you're like, WHOA,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Like dude is different. Like dude is flat out different.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: And the fact that it took him a year and
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: a half to get to the major leagues. He got
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: hurt like his second year, but like he was ready
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: right then and there, like ready right then and there.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: But Joe, not everybody is a King Griffy Junior and
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Alex Rodriguez. So is baseball protecting itself from missing on
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: guys and poor scouting when they're so young or are
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: they just trying to cut costs?
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: Oh, it's unquestionably you'd rather draft college twenty year olds
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: than seventeen year olds. You have a Now you don't
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: have the upside with the seventeen year old, or you
• 55:23
  Speaker 11: should be with the twenty year old. They're not going
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: to get to the major leagues at nineteen and become
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: Griffy or Soto whoever. But you're more likely to not
• 55:31
  Speaker 11: miss on a pick. You're more likely to be able
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: to say, this guy's going to actually be a contributor.
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: College pick picks tend to be safer picks. High school
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: picks tend to be more upside picks. So MLB is
• 55:40
  Speaker 11: saying we would rather not worry about the upside, so
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: that when we spend our money on these where we
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: invest in these players, scouting them, developing them, paying them,
• 55:49
  Speaker 11: we're more likely to get a return. It's but it's
• 55:52
  Speaker 11: such a disconnect from baseball history ian that I have
• 55:55
  Speaker 11: a hard time getting my head around.
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: I mean, so is the stupid runner rules. So maybe
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: I'm too old and.
• 56:01
  Speaker 11: Too the idea that we would we would never have
• 56:04
  Speaker 11: another Griffy or Soto or a Rod you know, great
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: even this year Connor Griffin, he's a baseball age twenty,
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: but he didn't turn twenty until like mid April.
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: He was a nineteen year old in.
• 56:13
  Speaker 11: The major leagues, and that was a huge story and
• 56:16
  Speaker 11: I just don't think I want to give that up.
• 56:18
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  Speaker 2: This would have to be collectively bargained right in the
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: upcoming fun thing called the collecting bargain agreement that's going
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: to take place.
• 56:44
  Speaker 11: No question, and Bruce Meyer of the MLBPA basically came
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: out and pointed out all the things that were wrong
• 56:48
  Speaker 11: with it, how much money would be saved, and know
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: how bad it would be for baseball. I do think
• 56:52
  Speaker 11: there are elements of this though, that could find their
• 56:54
  Speaker 11: way into a collective bargaining agreement. I'm I tend to
• 56:59
  Speaker 11: believe the MLBPA is on the right side of issues,
• 57:03
  Speaker 11: largely because the MLBPA has never tried to tell me
• 57:06
  Speaker 11: that Julliard Regez made sixteen ninety five an hour last year.
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: They've never just.
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: Out and outled the way owners do about their finances.
• 57:12
  Speaker 11: But sports unions across the board will sell out amateurs
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: to get the things that they need. So you look
• 57:20
  Speaker 11: at this MLB proposal, and there's part of it. You know,
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: there's a proposal for hard slotting the way they have
• 57:25
  Speaker 11: in the NFL, and I believe the NBA there's a proposal.
• 57:29
  Speaker 10: For shortening the draft.
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: I think there are things in this proposal that could
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: actually get through because the players need things to trade off,
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: for one, and for two, you really don't lose any
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: votes trashing the rights of amateurs, like the guys who
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: are gonna get drafted under this plan don't.
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: Have a vote.
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: So there's a long history of the league's the unions
• 57:49
  Speaker 11: basically selling out future players. So I think there are
• 57:52
  Speaker 11: parts of this proposal that are could possibly be in
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: the next CBI. But I do think that not drafting
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: high schooler's thing is going to be a line in
• 58:02
  Speaker 11: the stands.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to me it's there's there could also be,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: and I wonder if they would go down this row.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Like hockey and baseball have relatively the same draft, you're
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: drafting really young players who normally are a couple of
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: years away minimum from making it to the top level
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball or the NHL. Hockey is a little
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: bit shorter path. The runway is usually about two to
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: three years max. Major league baseball, as we know all know,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: it's usually what three to four Joe probably for if
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: you're drafting a kid that's seventeen or eighteen, is probably
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: two three four years.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: And that's the thing.
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: There's a pretty wide variance in baseball.
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: I can't speak to the path of hockey, but you
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: know you'll have players get drafted. And you know last year,
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: Nick Kurtz and Campsmith were first round picks in twenty
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: twenty four, and they opened, they were in the major
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: leagues by May.
• 58:51
  Speaker 10: Of twenty five.
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: It does happen that guys come quit that quickly. The
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: Angels made it a policy for a while, Nolan shandwell,
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: Nick Kurtz a bunch of pitchers. But you know, if
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: you're drafting younger player, tractor high school players, that can
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: take three or four years. We always get stories about
• 59:05
  Speaker 11: thirty year old rookies, right There's some guy who got
• 59:08
  Speaker 11: drafted and you know, ought six or something and ends
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: up think fourteen years in the minor leagues. They plays
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: in Mexico and Outer Mongolia, and oh.
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: He makes his major league debut at thirty one. So
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: there really is no linear past.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I bring up the hockey park because that's funny because
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I think when basketball switched back to you have to
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: be in for a year, it was one hundred percent
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: to protect themselves from And I was in Portland when
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the following names all got drafted. You know, Travis Outlaw,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Sebastian Telfair, Martel Webster who's from here, Ricky Sanchez, I
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: mean he was a local career, he was and was
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: just an absolute bust. I mean they you know, they
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: went through a whole bunch of dudes that should not
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: have been drafted. And if they would have had a
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: year in college, you would have seen all the red flags,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: not just on the court, but off the court basketball.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: To protect themselves, that's why they did it, and that's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: why they still and they still do it that way.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I think hockey has a way to do it now,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: which I kind of like with the whole nil world.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Now you can draft a guy, you don't have to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: sign him right away, he can go back to college
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: for a year, and now that same player can make
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot more to like the number,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Like if you're a first round pick in baseball, hell
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: your first second third round pick in baseball, you're getting
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: big nil money if you're playing with an SEC school
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: or something. Why not allow them to draft a guy
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: and let them go to college.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: I'm not sure they are. I think there's nil money.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: There's official money, and there's unofficial money.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's college baseball.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 11: The number of college baseball players who are making yeah,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 11: significant money is pretty small now. The difference is MLB.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: You don't go to the league, you go to the minors, right,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 11: And even with the improvements in the last CBA, minor
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: league players don't make very much money correct, And after
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: the first handful of rounds, the bonuses aren't really that great.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: So the difference between going to college for a major
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: league player and going to college for an NBA or
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: an NFL player, there you're leaving more on the table.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 11: We're actually seeing it now in basketball, where players who
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: are going to be second round picks or don't know
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 11: if they're going to be a first round pick, right,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: we'll stay in school because they can actually get better
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 11: paid than if they be a second round pick. But
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 11: that's basketball, and I just I don't think that's going
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 11: to port for more than I'm going to say, one
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: hundred baseball players just pulling a number out and I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 11: took us. You know, maybe it's seventy, maybe it's one
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: hundred and fifty.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: I don't know. But I don't think nil is that.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: Big a factor here. I think it's you're forcing guys.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 11: And this where it gets to where let me go
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: for a second here.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: College sports is no longer college sports.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: College sports are professional sports, minor league sports sponsored by
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: a college. The idea that somebody is going to go
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: to college, take geology, one O one, join glee club,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: be a participant in life.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: On campus is dead. That is no longer the case.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: And we know this because players switch colleges every year now,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: so there's no sense of I'm part of this environment.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 11: So back when you know the NFL has a three
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: year rule, the NBA now has a one year rule.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 11: You know, MLB is trying to come up with this rule,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 11: this idea that like it's better for the student. I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: don't think it's any use to the student to be
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: forced into an atmosphere where you're going to fake going
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: to college for two years. You're going to go to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: one place for one year, then you're going to transfer
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 11: somewhere else. And then you're going to be drafted out.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 11: How is that helping anybody?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Let me, Yeah, no, it's it. It's well, I mean
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: it's it's money in the pockets. But it's a short
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: term thing too, right. I mean that's that's part of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: the issue that that doesn't get looked at before I go,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I want to I want to quickly ask it. The
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Mariners on the road they start, they take on the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates the next three games. We've talked about them
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: over the year as a team, and I'm going to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: use a term here that that we use on our
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Molliwop segment with Chris and Nate every Monday. Nathan loves
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: to bring it up, quote, are they really serious about winning?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Are the Pittsburgh Pirates serious about winning?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: Who?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: And what are they?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: The players are, the front offices, the owner, the owners,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: and the owner has never been Robert Nutting. He's been
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: a disaster since he took over the team. I have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: no question that everybody in uniform and everybody out of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 11: uniform up to the owner's box wants to win. Ben
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: Sherrington wants to win. All these guys want to win.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: Dan Foxes, I believe still there. I used to work
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: with him at prospect Us because all I want to win.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 11: It's all about the ownership, and the ownership has never
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 11: shown any desire when moved thirteen years removed now from
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 11: the mccutching teams, when they were good in twenty thirteen,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 11: twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, and they had opportunities to make eques,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 11: betrayed deadline, they had opportunities to spend money in the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: off season.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: Mind you, this is a team that had even then
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: when of the lowest pay rolls in baseball, So clearly
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: there was.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 11: Money available to be spent, and they wouldn't do it,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 11: and they ended up not really doing anything in the postseason.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 11: And then that team aged out and they've been bad
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 11: basically for ten years since.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: And that's that's ownership.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 11: So the players, the front office, they're doing really good
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 11: job this year. The ownership just won't put the money
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 11: out and it's really a shame. It's there are a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 11: lot of pirates fans, and Pittsburgh is its own thing
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 11: because of the Steelers and the Tenguins, and you'll get
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 11: a lot of pirates fans insisting that the only way
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 11: out of this is a payroll cap. And the actual
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 11: way out of this is for Bob Dunning to sell
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 11: the team.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I'm out of time. Next week I'll get your response
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: to the new version of the piggyback just announced by
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, Logan, Gilbert, Emerson, Hancocker on a piggyback rotation
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: on Saturday, Gilbert and.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: Handcock can't hold me a little after the commercial.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Quickly go Logan Gilbert, God, wait time out, Just say it.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Did Logan Gilbert not just come off a Player of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: the Week award?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: He did?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: He was announced yesterday.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, go ahead, Joe.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: This is something you do with your back end starters.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 11: You don't do this with Logan Gilbert and Kirby and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: Bryce Miller. If you have a bad if you have
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: a bad staff, this is how you fix it. You
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 11: don't fix it when you have five guys who are
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: above the level of a number three. I know that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: it's complicated, go to a six man or something, but
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: doing it this way is just asinine. If you've got
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 11: to piss off, excuse me, if you've got to tick
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 11: off Luis Castillo, kick off with Louis Castillo. But you
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  Speaker 11: can't do this where you're asking Logan Gilbert to be
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  Speaker 11: in a part of a tandem. Logan Gilbert is an AX.
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  Speaker 11: I know the era is at the other year. Look,
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  Speaker 11: Gilbert is an X. You don't do this with your aces.
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  Speaker 10: You don't do this with your best players.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm just I know. Sorry, Jess, I'm looking at this.
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  Speaker 2: I can't like.
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, well, okay, this is good, this is too good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking Divish made a mistake when he heard Dan
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  Speaker 2: Wilson say this. I see Hank Hancock find No, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't make a mistake. He's really good. Logan Gilbert, the
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  Speaker 2: reigning American League Player of the Week, allowed one run
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  Speaker 2: He also only allowed one extra base hit in those
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  Speaker 2: two games, and he is now on a piggy on Saturday. Joe,
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: The hockey, the hockey team I worked for. I we
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  Speaker 2: just a couple months ago you said, Hey, we're going
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: It was you know, it was another pledge we made
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  Speaker 8: that we were going to turn over every stone and
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  Speaker 8: we looked far and wide for the right group and
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  Speaker 8: I think we landed on Well.
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  Speaker 7: We didn't want was an echo chamber. We didn't want
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  Speaker 8: People the hockey business that you know for years, I
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  Speaker 8: have friends, and I got calls, but we landed on
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  Speaker 8: a group that had no bus, and we directed them
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  Speaker 8: to turn every to ask the hard questions.
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  Speaker 7: They have an incredible track record.
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  Speaker 2: I know about them.
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  Speaker 8: When I was at the NFL. We did reference checks.
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  Speaker 8: They came in and they did exactly what we wanted.
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  Speaker 8: Phase one is now done. We learned a lot. We
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  Speaker 8: came away inspired because there are things we're doing well.
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  Speaker 8: They believe that Samantha Holloway and our ownership have done
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  Speaker 8: an incredible job of giving.
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  Speaker 7: Us the resource. But there were gaps.
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  Speaker 8: And you know the old book Good to Great that
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: submits it's harder to go from good to great, that
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 8: it is from not good to good came true and
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  Speaker 8: it really caused us to pause and say, well, this
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  Speaker 8: is something that's part of our DNA. This is how
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  Speaker 8: we were going to go build this. We're not the best.
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  Speaker 8: What are those gaps, what are the shortcomings, and how
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  Speaker 8: do we fix it? And I'm going to be careful
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 8: about not revealing too many trade secrets here because what
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: I'm saying can be disseminated to other teams.
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  Speaker 7: But I will go into some of that and we
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  Speaker 7: can maybe talk about development.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that, because I mean people want
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  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, they found some things. That probably doesn't
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: matter what business we're in, right, you can always find
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  Speaker 2: improvements and do things better. And I mean I think
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: everywhere people have annual reviews or they bring consultants in.
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  Speaker 2: And this feels like much more of a deep dive.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: So a fan sitting at home right now is asking,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: that's great, you did a deep dive.
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  Speaker 7: You look through all these things.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to reveal everything, but maybe some tangible things.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Your gms in place, your coaches in place, you have
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: made some additions. Maybe those are some of the tangible things.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: We could talk about player development, all those things. But
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: what did you see? What did you find? What did
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  Speaker 2: the organization find that you need to work on? And
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: what changes do you think that can you discuss that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: have been made.
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  Speaker 8: One area I would say was development because we prided ourselves,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: we believe that we have.
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  Speaker 7: An excellent group of prospects.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: We have set it up in Coachella Valley to be
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  Speaker 8: the ultimate American Hockey League team and so that whole
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: development piece we're pushing it.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to push it from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 8: And it's proper who might be playing juniors, playing college,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: it's prospects that are at the American Hockey League level,
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  Speaker 8: and it's actual players that are on our current roster.
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  Speaker 7: And we've already started. We've added staff.
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  Speaker 8: You know, we have an assistant coach who had incredible
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  Speaker 8: success in developing players in the American Hockey League. Pascale
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  Speaker 8: is going to be an amazing addition to that coaching staff.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: We have a formed player coming back, Coach Schultz. Now
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: a player becomes a coach and he's a development coach.
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  Speaker 8: We're investing in additional staff positions. Out of this will
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  Speaker 8: be a whole number of additions we're going to make
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  Speaker 8: to our development team or player development team, fitness, conditioning, nutrition,
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  Speaker 8: because we don't want to be good at it, we
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 8: want to be the best. And to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 8: I think that if we had made the playoffs now
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: looking back, some of these challenges might have prohibit us
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: from going deep. And now we realize that the work
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: we've done there is a path for us to dream
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  Speaker 8: about being better than we ever would have been had
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  Speaker 8: we not done what we've done here.
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  Speaker 2: What's your message to fans now that you've gone through
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  Speaker 2: this process and you have as an organization committed to
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  Speaker 2: making changes in additions and doing what you can, what
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  Speaker 2: would you tell fans as they get ready for what
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: should be an exciting off season here in the next
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: few weeks, but also the next season which starts later
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: this fall.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we're not happy. We made promises, we made pledges
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  Speaker 8: and we came up short. We owere fans better, and
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  Speaker 8: we're deeply committed to getting this right because all the
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  Speaker 8: pieces are here to build one of the great franchises
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  Speaker 8: in the National Hockey League. We believe in our fans,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: we believe in this market, we believe in our arena,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: and we actually believe in the people leading this. But
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: they've got to do better. We've got to empower them
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: with better direction, with more resource, with more people.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: And you're saying it happen in real time. It is happening.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: And we have had a very, very productive two months
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: since the end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And should be an eventful few weeks coming up as
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: well as we headed to the draft, free agency, and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: so much more. Thank you, you bet. That's tylight Wickie.
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  Speaker 2: That's the video that they posted or put out to
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  Speaker 2: season ticket holders, and we were able to play for
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  Speaker 2: you as well. It's uh making the rounds people have
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  Speaker 2: reaction four nine four five one. That is the to
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  Speaker 2: come at age text line four nine four five one.
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  Speaker 2: We played that in at the noon hour, but I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to hear it again because I want to see
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  Speaker 2: some more great texts coming in four nine four or
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  Speaker 2: five one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm taking the passion.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: There's passion. There is passion. Shout out to the Mariners
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: for the piggybacking Logan Gilbert, appreciate you guys doing that.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: The uh I mean that?
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  Speaker 10: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I'm just very curious about the why on that
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  Speaker 4: why and what?
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  Speaker 2: Oh Logan Gilbert, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. So
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  Speaker 2: I thought one thing that that and we'll address it
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: because we've got I'm actually pleased with the number of
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  Speaker 2: texts we have on this audit video too, as unpleasant
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: as they are to read, the passion is there. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, Listen, I'm not sure how much transparency you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: expected as a fan, and I don't know if you
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: really thought you were going to get a step by step,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: here's this department, what needs to happen, here's this Why
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  Speaker 2: would that be made public? I don't know why that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: would be something you think you would be privy to?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: He he was general in his comments. I get that.
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  Speaker 2: I think the important thing here is that they did
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: it right. They invested in the process, wasn't cheap, and
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: they did it and they said we're going to be better.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I probably a no win situation for the organization to
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, like, hey, we're going to do this,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: but we're going to keep most of its proprietary trade
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  Speaker 2: secret information. We're not going to go through every line
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: item through the process. Why would we? No organization would
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: do that. But fans want to have that transparency. And
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: there will be a time I'm sure where todd sits
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  Speaker 2: in front of the media uh and speaks about it.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of people looking forward to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: that as well, not just media that are paid by
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: the team.
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  Speaker 6: Me.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we'll say you break John lond Oh. We
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  Speaker 2: It's the win crack and announced their audit. You heard
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  Speaker 12: every week two o'clock. People look forward to it. We
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  Speaker 6: We love it.
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  Speaker 2: And then he sends us. He sends us content for
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  Speaker 4: What a producer.
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  Speaker 6: You're welcome. You're welcome. Yay, you're from the Bay Area
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  Speaker 2: How many times you send me audio this week?
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  Speaker 4: This week? It's only Tuesday?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, zero?
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  Speaker 4: I oh, but I haven't sent it.
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  Speaker 2: But John sent us audio. All right, listen, this is
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  Speaker 6: It was the Busting with the Boys podcast and they
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  Speaker 6: the former big offensive lineman, is one of the guys.
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  Speaker 6: Very popular, it's growing. And Sam Donald was on there
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  Speaker 6: and he basically said that I'll paraphrase it all that basically,
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  Speaker 6: he wouldn't have won a Super Bowl. The Seahawks wouldn't
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: have given him money. You would have never had a parade, nothing, nothing,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: nothing would have happened the same old Seahawks, except for
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: the fact that Kyle Shanahan gave him a pH d
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  Speaker 6: in football. Then he went to the Vikings, Then he
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  Speaker 6: went to the Seahawks, So you are welcome.
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  Speaker 5: Here's I feel like I got my PhD in football
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: when I went to San Francisco. That was such a
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: such a blessing for me to just be able to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: learn from Kyle, Brian Greasy, the Kubiaks, Claying Klant, just
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: such a great coaching staff. And then to be able
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  Speaker 5: to not only learned from Brock. I've talked about learning
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: from Brock quite a bit, but like all the great
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: players that are over there in front of the program,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: George Kittle, Fred Warner, Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams. Of course, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you just have all these studs that are over there
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: and to like learn some of their habits and like
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: stuff that they do in the off season, how they
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: get better. Like it was, it was just such a
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  Speaker 5: great opportunity for me to just go there and be
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: a sponge.
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  Speaker 2: I had no problem with that, you know what, take
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: all the info and go beat their ass a couple
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: of times and win a Super Bowl. It's perfect.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, But I mean it depends on how you looked
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: at it. I mean, you got a PhD from Kyle Sandan,
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  Speaker 6: I mean I didn't hear anything. I didn't hear him
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: say that he got a pH d in Seattle, or
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: that Mike McDonald gave me any kind of you know,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: the didn't get a degree from Mike McDonald. I mean,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: I mean you just heard right there. If he doesn't
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: make a stop here in San Francisco, then you got nothing. Yeah,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: Gino still, well, well that's a hole.
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  Speaker 2: Got problems with his own Now that's a whole different problem, dude,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: that's a whole difference. Like, we may not see Gino
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: on the field this year.
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  Speaker 13: No, we may not.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: He made He might be. He might play as much
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: as Brendan Soresby. It might be problem.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, first of all, that's not the first time
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: that Sam Darnold has said nice things about about Kyle Shanahan.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: The whole team. He said, like he did Brock and Kittle.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: He mentioned the whole damn team. I mean, well, essentially,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: without the Niners, you got nothing.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I did have some I did have a little bit
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: of a Russ flashback there, like the famous Russ interviews Rus.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Uh what you?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: What's you?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: I mean? You got there for three seventy five today
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: and four touchdowns? Well, you know, I just thought it
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: was great. You know, I was going out there, and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I mean Jamake Curse and Doug Baldwin. I meany're catching
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: everything I threw to him. Where Shawn was great? Now
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: him name uh Breno was phenomenal at right tackle. Gotta
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: love Max Hunger at center. Like name the entire roster
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: right that was a russis. That's kind of what Sam
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: just did. He just went through the whole ross.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: Did you know, maybe he saying maybe maybe that's maybe
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: he's letter from Russ too. I mean, he seemed like
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: you said he's a sponge. Maybe maybe he came across
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: Russ at the World.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Cup or you know, right there first one, I know
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. I know what you're doing. I know
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: what I know what you're doing. And I'm going to
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: say it again. Whatever the trade off is dealing with
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: the devil doesn't matter. We had a parade here a
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: few months ago, and I think we're all okay with that.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: You know what, However he got his information.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying is you're welcome.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: We're not thanking you. We're not thanking the forty nine ers.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe Sam is the rest of us are. That's the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: last thing for is thank you guys.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, is the guy with the with the ball
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: in his hands and ever on every offensive possession, the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: guy who saved his best for last right. I mean
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm just saying he got better as the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: year went on, not Kyle nothing, just I mean, you know,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: same old guy and goes there it is there there,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: he had to drop something there it is, he said it.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying what he said. He said he got
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: a PhD. In San Francisco, or as you would say,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Santa Clara, he got he got.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: It a lovely which which I'm cut that whole Santa
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Clara thinks stupid. I'm watching the World Cup last night,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: the game that was lined like in the middle of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the night, and it's like San Francisco Soccer Stadium in
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Santa Clara.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: They cover up the Levi's logo. It doesn't need to
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: say Levi's. It's so funny because they put something over it.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: But it's still because it's just like a whatever it is,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: it's still got the logo of Levi's, even though it
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: doesn't say levis hilarious.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Why can't they just say the game week yeah, Why
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: can't they just Why can't they just say Santa Clara. Why, like,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: why are people so adverse to saying Santa Clara?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: And how far away is it?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: Again?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Tell people how far away is? Like if I wanted,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: if I was at the Golden Day Bridge or Fishermen's War,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: how far is it to get to that stadium?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: Well, it's probably thirty miles, but you know, with traffic,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: probably take three days.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: But you know, but in San Francisco Stadium.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: Thirty five miles you know, Yeah, my god.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: How far is it from How far is it from
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: the old dump that Candlestick place, that place with the
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: hell jeez?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah probably Yeah, you could lose a couple of limbs
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: there and a lot of money Candlestick. It's so funny
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: when people, oh my god, I miss it so much.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: It's like, are you kidding me? And to like run
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: to your car and be armed at that place. But yeah,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: that's probably like fifteen twenty miles not far.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: We by the way, we have that same weird. I mean,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: I'm as guilty as anybody that same weird of love
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: affair with the Kingdome, right, like could wait to see
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: it go? Yeah, you can't wait to see it go
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: and then it's gone, and like, God, I miss the Kingdome?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Do I really miss the Kingdome? And probably not? Probably?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: Not. Probably there were some fun times than Kingdom. And
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: for those who don't know, I briefly lived in Edmunds
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: and we went you know, late seventies when the when
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks were very good. The difference between Candlestick and
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: the Kingdom was most of their winning has been done
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: in their new place at a high level. I mean,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying, you know, Kurt Warner and there was
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: there were certain guys. Obviously you have some good teams,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: some fun teams with Jim's Orne and large it and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. But the Candlestick, they won
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: tons of titles there, you know, the huge games there
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: and there, and it ended in an amazing way. Navarro
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: Bowman on a Monday night against Atlanta had a pick
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: six interception that won the game. They called it the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: pick what pick stick six of the stick or whatever like.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: There was all these different memories there and so people
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: hated to see it go down just for that very fact.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: And Levi stated, they haven't won anything. I mean, they've
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: gone to Super Bowl, they.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Haven't won anything.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: So that's kind of the difference is Levi. People don't
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: like Levi's a lot, and I know why you don't.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: But you know, Candlestick, they actually won games at least
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: in the new place now where you guys are, that's
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: where you've won out your games games. Yeah, like if
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: you tore that place now, people like, oh I remember
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: those memories, Like that was the thing. Candlestick was an
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: absolute positive dump inside out, but it was there, you know,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: it was San Francisco's dump.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: People, great, great memories. I'm looking at pictures right now.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: When did they demo this, like four or five years ago?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: When did they demo Yeah, maybe a little bit more
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, it was oh god, yeah yeah it was.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Also it's the best, you know, I remember, I remember
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: how cold it was, like for some reason, it just
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: got cold as hell there. Like we'd go down the
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: field towards the end of the game and stand there.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the like it is freezing down here?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, freezing damp. You know what's so funny, the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: first preseason game, I go to this, I go to this,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: uh this suite, you know, because that's how I roll,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: And I got Levi's at Levi Stadium, and now it
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: is bad. On one side of the stadium it is bad.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of sun there. But people were complaining
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: because that day it just happened to be hot in
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: the Berry, like ninety two and people were just freaking out.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna hate this stadium. I And so from day
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: one people have hated it there. But you're right, when
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: you went to Candlestick, people forget conveniently like it was
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: damp and disgusting and everything. But again, they want a
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: lot of games there, so people cared. But it was yeah,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: I would be lucky to be you know, seventy. It
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: was seventy or something. It was windy cold. That's just
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: how the That's how it was.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: I my one and only interview one on one with
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Marshaun Lynch was there at Candlestick.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: Is that right?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah? And it was and he actually he actually hung
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: out for the interview.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Well, here's what happened. We were so like when we
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: did back when we were when they were still playing,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: when they were playing there, it was years ago and
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: obviously technology has changed. But we were doing postgame live
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: shots for Fox thirteen and you had to have a
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: truck like like nowadays, you just have like a little
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: backpack and you can transmit video and everything everywhere with
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: adjeiro or a live view they call it. Back then,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: you had to have a full on satellite truck. And
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: if you remember and you went there, like there was
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: like that satellite truck row that's all parked on the
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: side there where the teams, where the teams come out,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: where the buses are. There's Santacans fans doing whatever and
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: satellite trucks. So you had to be there outside and
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: they would bring a player or two out there. Well, one,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: we're wrapping up our show and they say, let's go
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: back to San Francisco some final thoughts for me in
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know, the tough loss for
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: they lost its tough loss today for the for the Seahawks,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: and but you know, the good news is Marshawn Lynch
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: really look good or something like that. He's walking behind
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: me with his mom, with Mama Lynch, and he hears
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: that and he like jumps on like kind of grab me,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like just kind of like yeah, and I
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: just I kind of put my arm around his shoulder
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: and I said, hey, Marshawn's here and I'm thinking in
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: my ear like, we're like, we gotta get off there,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and they go, just go. I hear this, just go.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: So I start talking to him and he says, hey,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: bring my mom. Like yeah, So I interviewed Mama Lynch
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: and him, and I'm thinking, this is awesome. We get Marshawn.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: He's fantastic. Mama Lynch was great. We did this interview,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: we blew past the bottom of the hour and here
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: we go. I'm all happy. A few weeks later, we're
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: on the road somewhere I think it might have been Toronto,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: and when they played the Bills up there, he goes crazy,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: runs for like a couple hundred yards. Go great, and
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I tell a pr guys, who do you
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: want to talk to me after the game? We go, well,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: can you bring Marshawn out? And then they go he
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: ain't coming out. I'm like, no, no, we're good. He
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: we did an interview two weeks ago. We're fine, he's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: gonna come out. He's like, no, he's not gonna do it.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: I go, no, no, man, I interviewed his mom and
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: everything goes I'm telling you, and and then I kind
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: of hold the whole story about and at that point
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: where so we were all kind of a little naive
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: about why he was mad at the world of media.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, so that was it one and
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: done and go yeah the fact, they go, the fact
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: you got him that one time, it's never gonna happen again.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: And he was right.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: They were right, never got him again. In fact, he
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: never did anything but Seattle Media again. Uh, one on one.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Marshawn outside Candlestick in the the aroma of
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: the Santa Cans uh marijuana and uh and and satellite
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: truck diesel. It was fun, a good time.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: That's amazing. Plus he was in the bay, so probably
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: he was happy and had his mom there. Ye sudden
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: he would do that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, like
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: you said, you know, he just he's a trip man.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: He could be the most gregarious, great guy. Like I've
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: seen him out you know, in the oak and everything,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: and he'll act like he's your best buddy, just like that.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: He was good friends with Greg Papa and you know
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: with uh Pop doing the Raiders and he's a legend.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: And so you know, Marshawn was nice to us, but man,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: if it wasn't exactly like you just said in the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: exact circumstance. He'd act like like there's no way, Like,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: don't even take a step towards me, I'll kill you.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't. My favorite thing was we go
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: on the road and like you'd get like the national
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: reporters there right, and they'd be like, yeah, I got it.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: Like hey, you know, I'll go, I'll go make cute
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: eyes at him and flirt with him, and he'll come
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: on and he'll talk to us. And then it's like
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: he doesn't care who you are, what you look like,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: how pretty you are, how ugly you are, how fat
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: you are, how scared. He didn't care, Like he didn't
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: with him, he didn't discriminate, but most of time he
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: just ignored you like he would just and like all
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: of the local guys, we'd just be laughing, like you're
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: not getting that. Like Britt mcchanry was a classic. She
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: tried every time. It's like, Britt, he ain't talking to you,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: and he wouldn't. He just ignored her just like whatever, Hey,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: so I mentioned the NBA Draft. It's tonight round one,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I guess is tonight right? You and I covered a
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: zillion of these things in Salt Lake and Portland over
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: the years. Then you and the Bay Area, why can't
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: they get this right? So they make the big trade
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: yesterday with Miami. So then so instead of Milwaukee drafting right,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: it'll be Miami drafting at thirteen. Like, what is the
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: dumbest thing in the world?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: Not?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Like all these guys get drafted like thirty minutes later, Yeah,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: Sham's comes on and goes well, yeah, I mean aj
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: Debonster got drafted number one by Washington, but he's actually
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: going to be going to Chicago. They traded Caleb Wilson
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: in nineteen other pick, Like, why can't they just do
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: it like the NFL.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: It's dumb. It's the dumbest thing ever, because, like you said,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: in the NFL, they trade within thirty seconds and they
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: just do it, and then they're gonna have some kid
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: and it's going to be awkward because those dumb interviews
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: that they do afterwards where they ask the same questions
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: over and over again, and you know, they put the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: hat on. Then they got the wrong hat on, and
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: everybody knows that at thirteen. You know, Milwaukee's pick is
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: ten and thirteen, but somebody's gonna have to have a
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: heat heat hat on, like the whole thing. Plus, I
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: just I'm so against them changing the lottery system. I'm
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: just always a proponent of Okay, what what league does
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: it the best? Well, the NFL does well. Does the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: NFL have a dumb lottery that you can fix?
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 6: No, they just the worst team gets to pick. That's
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: how it goes, Like, quit over complicating. I can't sit
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: here and tell you how complicated this thing is. But
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: they're flattening the odds next year on this whole thing. Yeah,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 6: all you have to do what they're gonna do, Like
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: teams who make the playoffs are gonna get could get
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: a lottery picked teams. You know, it's the dumbest thing ever.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: And they think that this is gonna curb and it's
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: gonna be over multiple years, that they're gonna take the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: records into account. It's so complicated and in life, it's like, look, simplify, simplify.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: The NFL does it, the worst team gets it good,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: that's it. Like legitimately, there's gonna be teams who are
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: really bad, like here in the Bay Area. When Steph
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 6: Curry leaves the Warriors, they're gonna stink. They're not trying
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: to tank, they just stink. And so what are you
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: gonna do when the team is just bad or like
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: in the end of this year, lost Halliburton, Well they're
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: gonna be bad. So but we're worried about tanking teams.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: Last time I checked Utah, Washington, Memphis, all these really
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 6: bad teams. Nobody cares. Now, you want to get my
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 6: players to play like the teams that you know, the
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: Lakers played Lebron and all your top players in the league.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: Get those guys to play more than sixty five games,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: which seems to be an undertaking. But you're you're worried
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 6: about tanking, Like who cares? The NBA is so asinine
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: in the way that they do things. When you get
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: this snics back, not if, but when it's just head spinning,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: it's Believe me, it's a great sport. Everybody loves it
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: in the athletes and all the things. But Adam Silver
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: is just a puppet. And that's why David Stern was
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: so good the former commissioner, because he just stood up
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: the stuff and said that's dumb. Yeah, moving on, like
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: he would never have let let this thing or this
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 6: or this mid season tournament they have that nobody cares
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: about or you know, there's just they're doing. They have
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: so many issues within the league and the number one
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: thing to worry about is flattening the odds. Well, that's
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: going to tell me that when a really when a
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: team that makes the playoffs gets that pick. Oh my god,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: the Knicks got the number one pick. Isn't that crazy?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: Oh the Bulls got to pick. Oh the Lakers got
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: the pick. It's like, okay, well that's to me, it
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: just opens itself up to all that.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. Like today you're going to see
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: these guys get picked and they're like, Okay, that's cool.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Like and you know the way college is now, like
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: with the college you know college game was was so
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: good this season and we kind of know players now
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: because they'll stick around for maybe an extra year some times.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: I mean not the Bonsta and Peterson the top two guys.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Boozer didn't. But we know all these guys Caleb Wilson, Okay, cool,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: like is it like? But then all of a sudden
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be gone. Like Darius Acuff junior. They are
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: point guard from Arkansas. Is he gonna go seven to Sacramento.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: He did, but he put on the hat. Hey what
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: do you think about going to Sacramento. I'm excited, blah
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: blah blah. I can't wait. And then you're gonna find
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: out that Golden State picked him up in a trade
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: for like three guys, right, and it's just like, well,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we traded out Jmar for it.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: If you announced the trade, if you announced the trade
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: didn't have the pick, I mean, that's what the NFL does.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: Like again, if I wasn't the league, I would just
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: look at the NFL. Now you can't look at you
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: can't make every game matter like it does in the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: NFL because we have seventeen of these things and you know,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: versus an eighty two or in baseball and sixty two.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: But but just do what they do, you know, like
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: that's whatever is the NFL is.
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  Speaker 2: The great thing about the NFL draft. The great thing
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: about the NFL Draft. As we sit there, you know,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: and we're we're up the Seahawks et course every year,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: and we're on the air, I'm like, okay, all right, well,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: like the Seahawks are on the clock, and then all
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you'll see it. You know, here comes,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: here comes get out there. We've got a trade to
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: ann ount what they're off, and then you'll see like
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: on the clock is are the Minnesota Vikings? Like they
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: just traded their pick, Like the drama is so much better,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: Like it's so much I wonder if team maybe the leagues,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: maybe leagues are just adverse to like admitting the NFL
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: does things really well, like you know what, Like they
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: do things really well. Just admit it and you can
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: fall like follow the lead. That's there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Just like in life, you see somebody does a good job,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: you can copycat.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 10: Why not?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's just like in our industry, there's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: not There hasn't been an innovation, or not an innovation,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: that's the wrong word. There hasn't been a fresh idea
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: in radio and I don't know twenty years. No. I mean,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: everybody just does what works, and that's fine. There's nothing
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: wrong with that. Just own it yourself. I mean I
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: don't understand it. Like you said, the NBA has got
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of issues. Look, the next winning was a
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: big deal for the league. The number one market in
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: the league wins the championship. I mean, they got to
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: be dancing in the streets for that one. But like
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: you said, this is a weird night because we already know,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: like at thirteen and then there's gonna be trades too.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: And their excuse has always been I remember this back
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: in the day when I asked an NBA executive, Well,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: we don't want to we don't want to upstage things.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: What do you mean you don't want to upstage things?
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: You know what they're gonna talk about today? They made
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: the trade. Today Jannis goes to Miami. That's all they're
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: gonna be talking about during the draft. I mean, they'll
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: be talking about the draft, but the honest is a
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: bigger story. So what do you mean you don't want
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: him to upstage what that There was a trade and
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: you're gonna be accurate about it, versus making a kid
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: put on a dumb hat of a team he's not
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: gonna go to and have the have the have the Uh.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: Basically, the sideline reporter goes, hey, how's it gonna be
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: go to Miami.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to Milwaukee, you dummy. But we all know,
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  Speaker 2: Hey one, I borre on my grandpa's VCR to watch
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  Speaker 2: your Super Bowl highlights. There's more, but I'll leave it
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  Speaker 2: at that.
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  Speaker 2: Against yeah, yeah, you can take the l on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Well done, well done, and final listeners all right.
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  Speaker 6: But it's five too right overall, it's five to.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 6: We lost lives on trophies. You can change that one.
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  Speaker 6: I've got all five trophies in front of me at
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  Speaker 6: the training camp a couple years ago. I think it's
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  Speaker 6: five to two, So you're catching up. Catching up.
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  Speaker 2: Ninety four was a long time ago, my man.
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  Speaker 6: That's like you know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: That's like you've been married three times since then, haven't you.
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  Speaker 9: Know?
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  Speaker 6: I'm contemplating the other one. I'm like, God, why did
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  Speaker 6: I do this? But then i'd be strength three and man.
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  Speaker 2: All right hopefully Yeah? No, are we are we still
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: listening on the weekends with you or what?
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  Speaker 6: the way, I had the morning show. The morning showan
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  Speaker 6: western Wood never takes callers, and the only caller that
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 6: came through was guys from Tacoma who's a security guard.
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  Speaker 6: I guess at Lumen or Seattle Stadium, depending on what
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: you're doing, and he gave us the lowdown. He called
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: me at like four point thirty in the morning. It
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: was like, I'm going to the stadium and this is
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: how many people are going to go there and give
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  Speaker 6: them the whole loadown. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: James and Tacomb, James Tacoma, Seattle Stadium security slash, loom
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  Speaker 2: and Field. All right, we'll talk to you next week.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Well done, and I'll send the VCR forty as well.
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  Speaker 2: But all right, that's John Lyte. We got talkbacks and
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  Speaker 9: That sounded to me like one of the hundreds of
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 9: corporate speak discussions I've been involved with in my career,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 9: a whole bunch of platitudes and nothing really tangible that
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 9: was said. If they spent a whole bunch of money
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 9: on it, I don't think they got their money's worth
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  Speaker 9: by what you were just reported.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: You know that lightwiki interview.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 7: It just sounds like general sports speak.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, he and you said it. You kind of
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: got to see it.
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  Speaker 14: Happen before you believe anything. And like so many others
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 14: in Seattle, I'm so jaded by the Mariners, man. I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 14: listened to Jerry to Poto talk, and I can't handle
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 14: it anymore. So until someone starts showing up and winning
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 14: like the Seahawks, it's tough to trust any of this.
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  Speaker 14: But the Kraken seemed to be thinking about it the
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 14: right way, which is nice.
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  Speaker 15: Here's all that matters about the audit that the Krakens
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 15: supposedly did. I don't care how great Samantha Holloway is
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 15: I don't care how many community ice plexus they've put up.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 15: The Kraken are here to do three things, win playoffs Cup.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 15: Once they've done that, then we'll know that this audit worked.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 15: I think all fair the one of the first or second. Yeah,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 15: corporate speak, I get that. I understand the pushback people
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 15: kind of just saying, well they would. I've said this
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  Speaker 15: multiple times nowadays on the show. If you thought for
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 15: any instant that they were going to tell you exactly what.
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  Speaker 2: Was found and all the things are going to implement
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: and how they're going to implement them, I gotta ask you, like,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: take a step back and think about that for a second.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: They did an internal audit and review of what they're doing.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: They found out what and I don't expect people to
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: believe me. I get it. I work for the team.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: I get it. And we're on the Not only do
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: I work for the team, this is the flagship radio station. Yeah,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: I get it. I understand that you're not You're going
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: to just say it's it's you know, being a shill
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: and all those things. I understand you. I've been on
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: the air for a long time. I sat with them
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: for hours. I'm going to tell you right now that
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: what they did was thorough. It was impressive. What they
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: found was probably very eye opening on a lot of levels,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: and pretty good chance they're able to improve what they're
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: doing on the ice now. If they don't, there will
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: be some other sweeping changes, for sure. The commitment to
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: winning is there. They want to win. Everybody wants to win.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: You know, Joe just talked about the Pittsburgh Pirates a
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: moment ago. The interesting thing the difference is he said, X,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Y and Z X and Y want to win. Z doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Z's ownership ownership doesn't care in Pittsburgh for the Pirates
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: ownership here cares. She's in that office every Smantha holiday
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  Speaker 2: in that office every single see her.
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  Speaker 4: More than most owners that I've seen in my time.
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  Speaker 2: Watching through the thirty two bar and grill every day,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: get to coffee.
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  Speaker 6: What have you now?
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: Again, I understand your trepidation, and I understand people saying, oh,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: it's just this this. Yeah, it was corporate speed. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't know you anything. To be honest with you, if
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: you want to be really honest, he kept that quiet.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't have to speak at all. And maybe in
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: a sense they shouldn't have. I don't know, but they
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: were at least a little transparent and good. Good for
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Todd and good for the organization to make that decision.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: But I just I can't fathom how you think that
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: they were going to tell you exactly what was found
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: and what they need to improve upon. No team would
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: do that. That'd be ridiculous to think that you got
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: another one.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, Changing the subject, a.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: Seahawks get Kyle Shanahanah's Super Bowl ring.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: For his education of Sam Darnol. Love it. He can't
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: seem to win one on his own.
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  Speaker 7: Love it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh God? The text coming in after lund on that
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  Speaker 2: are fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: They're pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the VCR one was good. That was good stuff
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  Speaker 2: with lund.
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  Speaker 15: Uh.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Most of the stuff we're getting today is is Cracking related.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Most of it is negative. Fine, I get you, I
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  Speaker 2: get you, I feel you, I see you, I understand. Oh,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: let's see. Crack can have no identity. They play soft,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: they don't fight to get bullied every game. NHL scout
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  Speaker 2: told me no team of voice contact like the Crack
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  Speaker 2: and bring in some goons. Goons, really goons goons exist
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: anymore at old School there's still there's I will expect
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: them to look a little different in that regard this year.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: I know how Lena. I know I didn't hear Lane's
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: interview with Softy in Dick yesterday, but I know Lane
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Lambert expects them to play bigger and tougher than they
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: did last year. And some guys that didn't want to
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: play that way are already not going to be back.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that. That's so. They're not going
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: to bring in quote a goon, but they will. You saw,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. I mean, Jamie Lexiak is
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: probably not getting he's probably not coming back, right, Okay,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: massive man, big rig six', seven huge, guy, yep pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Tough he didn't fight for almost two calendar, years didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a, fight which you, know it's not even, fighting
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  Speaker 2: it's standing up for your. Teammates, yes and he went
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: through about what almost eighty percent of the season without,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: it and then he had a couple pretty dandies at
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: the end when guys got. Hit berkeley got hit the one,
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  Speaker 2: time and SO i forget who the other guy, was
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  Speaker 2: and he stood up for his. Teammates that's The Lane lambert.
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  Speaker 2: Effect that's a tangible effect of How lane's changing the
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  Speaker 2: culture and who they are that wouldn't have happened the
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  Speaker 2: year before or the year before.
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  Speaker 6: That.
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  Speaker 2: Eon we get. It you're getting paid by the cracking.
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  Speaker 2: Organization it's a below average. Franchise all this is blowing
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  Speaker 2: smoke first sort of. Business put together a roster that
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: can consistently make the. PLAYOFFS i, agree get a better.
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  Speaker 2: Roster get a better. Roster let's see what was the
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: other ONE i saw that was kicking my. Ass there's a, couple,
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  Speaker 2: well there's a. Lot, actually had somebody besides the cracking
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  Speaker 2: employee do the. Interview, Okay i'm Sure todd is going
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  Speaker 2: to be probably even this weekend with THE nhl. Draft
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  Speaker 2: i'd be surprised if we don't See todd in front
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  Speaker 2: Of mike's and. Cameras he will.
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  Speaker 4: Be But todd is, very very gracious with this time all.
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  Speaker 2: This i'll sum it up with. This the, general the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: general tenor of the text that we got today are.
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  Speaker 6: Angry but.
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  Speaker 2: Passionate ye also at the same time wanting to see,
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  Speaker 2: change wanting to see a better. Team, anyway it was.
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  Speaker 2: Good good for, you, GUYS i. Understand i'll just again
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  Speaker 2: SAY i don't think you could have expected and they
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  Speaker 2: didn't know you. ANYTHING i, Mean todd would probably push
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  Speaker 2: back IF i said. That he, Goes, no we are fans. Everything,
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  Speaker 2: yeah you, do but you didn't know them to be that.
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  Speaker 2: Transparent my, opinion yeah not the organization's my.
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  Speaker 3: Opinion And i'll say again AS i said, EARLIER i
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: appreciate seeing the passion because it's apathy that kills.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: You AND i love that this this fan base is
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: so invested in the.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Team, well you, know if you go to the, games
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: you pay good money to go to the. Games you've
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: you've been frustrated by seeing a team Like, vegas how
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  Speaker 2: the success they. Have And i'll wrap it up with,
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  Speaker 2: this as frustrated as you are as a fan or
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: even a new fan or even a, FRINGE i want
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  Speaker 2: to be more of a. Fan it's frustrated as bad
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  Speaker 2: as you. Are multiply that by, whatever and that's what
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  Speaker 2: that front office. Feels front office being my, wiki, boughts, ownership,
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  Speaker 2: leadership et. Cetera so appreciate the, text appreciate the. Feedback
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  Speaker 2: we'll take a, Break softy joins. Us we'll ask about
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  Speaker 2: the Logan gilbert. PIGGYBACK i can't wait for that. Next all,
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  Speaker 2: right ladies and, Gentlemen i've got to get to this right.
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  Speaker 2: Away done talking, audits you. Know instead of talking an
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  Speaker 2: audit you don't want to talk.
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  Speaker 13: Spirit, well we'll Have wax And welts on the air
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  Speaker 13: today with us it's forty five to update us on
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  Speaker 2: Gone there's a little bit of a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: stress on Team england's, side but that pales in. Comparison. Sir,
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  Speaker 2: yeah the Reigning American League player of the, week he's.
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  Speaker 2: you met a rose. Arena, sorry, no he is not
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  Speaker 2: the player of the. Week Logan gilbert goes and throws
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  Speaker 2: two games in which he gives up one extra base.
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  Speaker 6: Hit that's.
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  Speaker 2: are piggybacking With Emerson. Hancock let's. Go we will let
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  Speaker 2: you know On saturday how many innings you are allowed to.
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  Speaker 13: Pitch it's not just The American League player of the,
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  Speaker 13: week but the fact that the team is six and
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  Speaker 13: oho in his last six.
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  Speaker 6: Starts by the, way, well you know, what they have
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  Speaker 6: won every game for a month and a.
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  Speaker 13: Half so let's let's have a predetermined situation On saturday
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  Speaker 13: where we limit the amount of innings you throw Because
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  Speaker 13: Emerson hancock needs to get his time in On saturday
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  Speaker 13: i Think friday On friday Against cleveland as.
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  Speaker 6: Well everybody else has to pay the price for.
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  Speaker 13: That, yeah you know, WHAT i didn't realize until, today
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  Speaker 13: An excel, spreadsheet, PowerPoint and they deliver it To Dan
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  Speaker 13: Forth all these guys And i'm telling, you, man it's
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  Speaker 13: lot of input and authority over any of this. Stuff
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  Speaker 13: ALL i know IS i so don't blame him as my, Point,
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  Speaker 13: NO i Never, yeah that's something goes, wrong fire the.
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  Speaker 6: September just keep your trap shut between, Now.
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  Speaker 2: Me i'll be. Fine the The I'm i'm. Gonna i'm
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  Speaker 2: twenty years AT, kjr and IF i get to the finish,
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  Speaker 2: Line i'll be. THRILLED i have known you AND i
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  Speaker 6: Logan, Gilbert, no that was With Bryce.
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  Speaker 13: Miller but then if they Give Logan gilbert a little
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  Speaker 13: more flexibility right On, saturday Then.
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  Speaker 6: Bryce is like, What, gibbs, well what? Why why does
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  Speaker 2: Benefit what indication would you have that they're going to
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  Speaker 6: More? Well.
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  Speaker 13: Egan egan had a great point on On king On,
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  Speaker 13: monday on the little thing we. Do he, said they
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  Speaker 13: got to have the ability to call it piggyback audible but,
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  Speaker 13: right but they have a guy IS i know they
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  Speaker 13: haven't done that, yet but if a guy is smoking
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  Speaker 13: and he's, cooking, yeah let him be, well walk away,
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  Speaker 13: piggyback piggy you plan for your bullpen that day that
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  Speaker 13: Includes Emerson. Hancock i'm Like logan gilling up If Logan
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  Speaker 13: gilbert is kicking their ass On, saturday.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: If you, were if you were ranking it today before
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  Speaker 2: it came, out he, Said, hey someone someone's gonna. Piggyback
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  Speaker 2: Sure piggy piggyback Right, Anyway Kenny wheaton And. Piggybacks, man
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  Speaker 2: what do you got coming? Up Brian schmetzers on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Today he was in the crowd for THE Usa. Australia
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  Speaker 2: we'll ask him what his B a c. Was by
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  Speaker 2: the second half of, that he'll join.
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  Speaker 13: Us John, wilner big day for a college football by the,
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  Speaker 13: way with this five for five thing that came out
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  Speaker 13: and you saw THE nfl was Denying Brendan. Soresby, yeah
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  Speaker 13: they said we don't want you in our league at
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 13: least not for a. Year you figure your stuff out
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 13: and then we can talk in. Twenty, so by the,
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  Speaker 13: way our Buddy farhunt came on and, said THE cfl
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  Speaker 13: wants no part of me. Either, Wow like, dude you're
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  Speaker 13: you freely playing somebody called New heizel with THE. Ufl
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 13: so if you can get in, there he'll join. Us you,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 13: Know Tony castricone is leaving for The Tampay. Buccaneers, yeah saw.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 13: That so he's going to be here on the air
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 13: with us at three twenty and then we're gonna have
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 13: a Little World cup update With waxen at five forty.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: Five How Harry kane can miss a wide open NEW
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  Speaker 2: i will five years ASKING. I we'll ask him that
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  Speaker 2: we're eight meters, out all.
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  Speaker 15: marginally objectionably.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Infness this is paddle, day saying so long, everyone