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Knights of the Golden Horeshoe with Virginia is for Conspiracy Lovers Podcast · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen. What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: What a.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Occult Rejects.
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  Speaker 4: This episode we got a returning guest and he's got
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  Speaker 4: his buddy with them from the podcast. I wasn't here
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  Speaker 4: last time. We'll have Daniel with us with Ernie. But uh,
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  Speaker 4: before we introduce these guests. Uh, we're going to introduce
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  Speaker 4: the rejects.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Julia, what is going on? How are you?
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  Speaker 5: What's up? Thanks for having me, Nick. It's a beautiful
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  Speaker 5: day in the Occult neighborhood and I'm really excited for
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  Speaker 5: this one. The topic sounds super interesting Cosmic Peach podcast
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  Speaker 5: wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, thank you for coming on. I'll always appreciate
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  Speaker 4: you on the show. And we got my boy Tyrone.
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  Speaker 4: What is going on, sir?
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  Speaker 2: What was going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 6: Man appreciate you for them me come on here and Yang.
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  Speaker 6: I'm ready for his great knowledge. Everything that you want
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  Speaker 6: to learn about me is on my website, Rebirth Oftheword
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  Speaker 6: dot com. You can also buy my book, Journey through
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  Speaker 6: the Origins of History through Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: Was a best seller. Thanks Nick, appreciated man.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hell, yeah, of course, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: And we got we got one of Tyrone's boys, his
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  Speaker 4: boy Fear, he came on the show with us.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to join us today and see what's up.
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  Speaker 3: What is going on here? How are you?
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing all right? Uh, yeah, glad to be here.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on. I believe it was on
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  Speaker 7: an episode about three months ago. Tyrone was supposed to
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  Speaker 7: be on, but uh wasn't or his system wasn't having
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  Speaker 7: it that day. So I jumped in on there because
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  Speaker 7: I was coming in on the uh in the chat box,
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  Speaker 7: and Danielle invited me on, So I thank you for that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: of course, and but yeah, glad to be back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And do you have a show of yourself? Did
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  Speaker 3: you have your own show too or yeah?
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  Speaker 8: All It's called Rocks, Ruins and Recipes.
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  Speaker 7: Basically, I go over ancient civilizations, the temples, the megalithic
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  Speaker 7: structures that they used to worship at the tools that
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  Speaker 7: they used.
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  Speaker 2: And I also as a cook.
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  Speaker 7: Well I'm a jack of all trades, master none, but
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  Speaker 7: I love I'm a trained chef. So I'm taking a
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  Speaker 7: recipe that that civilization is most known for, and also
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  Speaker 7: do working that into the episodes as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yo, was it you who I think I heard on it?
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  Speaker 3: I could be wrong? Was it you?
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  Speaker 4: I heard on Tyrone show? You have a name for
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  Speaker 4: this cookbook or something that you're gonna come out with.
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  Speaker 8: You have dis obedience?
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  Speaker 4: I heard that ship. I heard you say that on it.
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  Speaker 4: That's you, Okay, same guy. I heard you say that
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  Speaker 4: shit on his fucking Twitter whatever is live? And I
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  Speaker 4: was like, Yo, this fucking guy's funny. Nice, nice, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Dish obedience all right? Yeah, well, thank you, thank you
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  Speaker 4: very much. Your name man, we call you Fear or what?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well my real name's Trevor, but can call me Fear.
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  Speaker 4: All right, call you the book? All right, thank you
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  Speaker 4: very much. Sir and Daniel Virginia's Conspiracy Lovers Podcast. What
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  Speaker 4: is going on?
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  Speaker 1: How's it going? Everybody? Thanks for having us?
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  Speaker 4: Of course, of course you want to plug your show,
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  Speaker 4: you want to say anything about you, you want to
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  Speaker 4: advertise anything, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I alrely do most of the plug into the show.
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  Speaker 1: This was sort of his brainchild after I had to
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  Speaker 1: endure I don't know. We first met quite a few
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  Speaker 1: months of him slinging all sorts of information in my
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  Speaker 1: direction about things that you know, I kind of thought
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  Speaker 1: were a little bit crazy at the beginning, and as
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  Speaker 1: we got to become really friends, we got more in
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  Speaker 1: depth with a lot of these different topics that he
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  Speaker 1: was talking about, and at some point he had this
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  Speaker 1: idea to have this show. He said, Hey, I got
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  Speaker 1: this idea of Virginia's for conspiracy lovers, where we just
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  Speaker 1: talk about conspiracies that are sort of based in Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: but also a little bit of lesser known I guess
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  Speaker 1: you might say history of Virginia, which there's lots of
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  Speaker 1: that were probably not probably one of the states with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of history which goes without saying. But Ernie
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  Speaker 1: is a specialist in specifically things that are sort of conspiratorial,
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  Speaker 1: and we wanted to talk about some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that is less known. You don't come across in textbooks
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  Speaker 1: if you're taking a course on Virginia history, for example.
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  Speaker 1: So that's sort of where we started. And my background
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  Speaker 1: is I've got my master's in history and I taught
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  Speaker 1: history and international relations for a little while. But this
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of this stuff that Ernie has brought
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  Speaker 1: to my attention is sort of I don't think flies
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  Speaker 1: in the face of traditional history is the right way
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  Speaker 1: to put it. But there are a lot of alternative
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  Speaker 1: views or lesser known facts or maybe different angles that
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  Speaker 1: are not traditionally accepted by the mainstream, which I'm open
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  Speaker 1: to and curious about, and I like to hear these
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  Speaker 1: theories and then we sort of have these conversations about, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I heard or this is what I read,
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  Speaker 1: and how does that fit with the traditional narrative? And
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  Speaker 1: then that's where that dialogue sort of kicks off.
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  Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool. I like that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Daniel's the the learned skeptic and I'm the
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  Speaker 8: psycho like scribbles crap out like a serial killer.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I got Lisa and McConnell on the show.
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  Speaker 4: We got to speak up for all the crazy ones.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, just real quick because I'm a moron, and
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  Speaker 8: set up all the socials for the podcast. They're all
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  Speaker 8: different names. I'm an idiot. So YouTube is VA con
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  Speaker 8: Lovers podcast all one word. Instagram is Virginia Conspiracy Lovers
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  Speaker 8: all one word, and then the Facebook is Virginia's for
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  Speaker 8: conspiracy lovers, and then obviously Virginia's for conspiracy lovers. You
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  Speaker 8: can find the podcast anywhere podcasts are and are YouTube,
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  Speaker 8: but we do try to include a lot of visuals.
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  Speaker 8: And when you got a guy who's good looking as
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  Speaker 8: Daniel on the show, you gotta you gotta do a video.
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  Speaker 8: He's like, you can't tell, but he's like nine feet tall,
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  Speaker 8: he's like Nordic. H smart. It's there's a huge discrepancy
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  Speaker 8: between the hosts.
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  Speaker 1: So well, that's that's how we met on this va
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  Speaker 1: con Lover's thing, you know, because I'd just gotten out
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  Speaker 1: of prison and I thought, well, I'm thinking, sure, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some companionship, and that's how. But I didn't realize it
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  Speaker 1: was about conspiracies. I'm confused, and that's how this that's how,
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  Speaker 1: that's how I started.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever see that ship? Only because it
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  Speaker 3: is sad I have experienced in prison.
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  Speaker 4: They actually have like uh, you know what I'm talking about, right,
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  Speaker 4: or you know what I was gonna bring up. They
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  Speaker 4: actually have like fucking bitches you can fucking like right, let.
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  Speaker 3: Us do it.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't know that. I think he said it out
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  Speaker 1: loud and was like, wait a minute, this might this
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  Speaker 1: might get different attention.
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  Speaker 8: You know. It's I'll take it though, man, they got
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  Speaker 8: a lot of time on their hands.
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  Speaker 1: Man, they can what I was talking about enjoy a
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  Speaker 1: good sense of humor.
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  Speaker 3: That's great, that's great.
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  Speaker 8: Well, so I guess do you want?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 8: So everybody listened to me ramble like a psycho on
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  Speaker 8: the last time about weird crap at William and Mary
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  Speaker 8: and all these like alignments and measurements and stuff. And
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  Speaker 8: then right when I got to the point where I
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  Speaker 8: went where I was going to share the screen, everything
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  Speaker 8: got glitchy as hell and it wouldn't it wouldn't pull up.
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  Speaker 8: So I threw together a slide show and I can
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  Speaker 8: burn through that really really quick before we get into
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  Speaker 8: like what we were going to talk about today. Just
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  Speaker 8: so there's a record out there that I'm making it up.
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  Speaker 8: So I've got it down here in.
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  Speaker 3: The bringing his receipts from last time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, measurement said William and Mary.
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  Speaker 3: Julie, were you here for the first one. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, I don't think I was actually.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so, oh you this should be pretty interesting
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  Speaker 3: for you probably.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, So I'm gonna burn through this really really quick.
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  Speaker 8: Everybody heard it and except for Julia, but so really quick,
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  Speaker 8: we went through the history of William and Mary. It's
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  Speaker 8: esoteric roots, it's Masonic roots and whatnot. And back to
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  Speaker 8: Francis Bacon. I mean, this is this piece of land
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  Speaker 8: right here is the beginning of this country. H bought
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  Speaker 8: from John Captain John Page, who comes from the Pajam family,
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  Speaker 8: which comes from southern France, which will actually tie in
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  Speaker 8: a little bit to what we're going to talk about today,
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  Speaker 8: because everybody in southern France was depending on what time
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  Speaker 8: you were there, you were either mayor VNGI and Huguenot
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  Speaker 8: Stewart Carolinian like of Charlemagne Plantagenet. I mean, yeah, I've
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  Speaker 8: got a little bit on there. So they bought this
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  Speaker 8: piece of land from that guy, got a charter for
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  Speaker 8: the college. Yeah, there's tons of My overarching as I
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  Speaker 8: as I get into this more and work on it,
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  Speaker 8: my overarching kind of thesis about Virginia itself is that
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  Speaker 8: it is UH. In this country in general was at least,
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  Speaker 8: if not still it was sort of a breakaway civilization
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  Speaker 8: for the Stuart dynasty and by way of the Stewart's
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  Speaker 8: the mayor of Vingian UH dynasty that claims the divine
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  Speaker 8: right to kings through the the supposed Christ and Magdalen bloodline,
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  Speaker 8: which is old hat and kind of like conspiracy cliche,
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  Speaker 8: and a bunch of part of that have been like
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  Speaker 8: debunked since the whole Dan Brown thing. And I'm not
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  Speaker 8: espousing that those bloodlines are necessarily true, but I think
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  Speaker 8: that they use them. They used that kind of mythology
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  Speaker 8: to imbue their bloodline with this divine right to rule
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  Speaker 8: so that they could stay in power. You give yourself
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  Speaker 8: this big mythology behind your family name, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 8: we're chosen by God. And even in the stuff we're
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  Speaker 8: going to talk about today, I'll burn through a little
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  Speaker 8: history before we get into the story, and you can
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  Speaker 8: see this through line all the way from the Mayravnngi
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  Speaker 8: and bloodline, or the Mayravngi and dynasty, all the way
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  Speaker 8: up through the Stewarts into the Jacobites and the founding
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  Speaker 8: of the New World. Anyway, all this stuff happened right
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  Speaker 8: in Williamsburg, Virginia. Started off kicked off there with James
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  Speaker 8: Fort and then the college built in sixteen ninety three,
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  Speaker 8: old college, home of the very first collegiate secret society
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  Speaker 8: created the Greek letter system at William and Mary the
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  Speaker 8: old one of the oldest Masonic lodges, the Number six
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  Speaker 8: Lodge in Williamsburg is a block away from here. The
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  Speaker 8: Rockefellers swooped in in the nineteen twenties and turned Williamsburg
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  Speaker 8: into a living museum that you can't do an archaeological
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  Speaker 8: dig in without the express written consent of the Rockefeller Foundation,
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  Speaker 8: who has a lawyer who lives in Williamsburg to handle
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  Speaker 8: that ever since the nineteen twenties. And they swooped in
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  Speaker 8: from Stratford upon Avon where they were doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 8: Right after many p Hall's wife, Marie Bauerhall came out
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  Speaker 8: with this theory where she had decoded a bunch of Shakespeare,
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  Speaker 8: Francis Bacon works and tombstones in the Bruton Parish churchyard
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  Speaker 8: about a block away from here, and claimed that there
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  Speaker 8: was a vault buried underneath the bell tower of the
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  Speaker 8: original Bruton Parish Church and it was twenty feet below
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  Speaker 8: the earth, twenty feet wide by twenty feet deep, and
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  Speaker 8: that there was something in there having to do with
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  Speaker 8: Bacon Shakespeare, possibly Nathaniel Bacon of Bacon's Rebellion, but something
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  Speaker 8: having to do with Bacon and that milieu that was
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  Speaker 8: super important. There's even a friggin cult that is that is,
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  Speaker 8: it comes from the West Coast called the Sages of
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  Speaker 8: the Seventh Seal, who in the nineties jumped the fence
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  Speaker 8: of the of the Bruton Church parish churchyard and dug
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  Speaker 8: up the cemetery in the middle of the night. And
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  Speaker 8: Marie Bauer Hall has made like pilgrimages to Williamsburg to
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  Speaker 8: like fight to have this like area excavated and never
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  Speaker 8: been able to do it because of the rock anyway.
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  Speaker 8: So that's a little bit of preamble about how weird
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  Speaker 8: this little town is that you really kind of never
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  Speaker 8: hear about, other than like the fake plastic history part
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  Speaker 8: of it, which has been kind of built by the
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  Speaker 8: Rockefellers to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 5: So do you think there's something really buried there and
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  Speaker 5: that's why the Rockefellers won't let anybody excavate it?
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  Speaker 8: I think that just like Oak Island, And you'll see
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  Speaker 8: I'm about to show some really interesting connections with Oak
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  Speaker 8: Island that in the past there were several areas around
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  Speaker 8: the globe that were almost, for want of a better term,
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  Speaker 8: safety deposit boxes for things like jacobite revolutions. The spirited
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  Speaker 8: away Templar Treasures, the spirited away Crown Jewels of France,
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  Speaker 8: you know, things to fund revolutions and rebellions and stuff
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  Speaker 8: like that, pirate booty, stuff like that. There were these
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  Speaker 8: places that adepts knew about, and I believe that Williamsburg
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  Speaker 8: could possibly be one of those places. Oak Island is
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  Speaker 8: another one of those places. I think there's markers all
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  Speaker 8: over this country that point to these places for people
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  Speaker 8: who are in the know.
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  Speaker 3: To know.
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  Speaker 8: But at this point now I think whatever may have
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  Speaker 8: been there is gone. Court Lindall has a really great
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  Speaker 8: theory that and he's done some further work on top
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  Speaker 8: of what Marie Bauer Hall started so many years ago,
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  Speaker 8: and he he he's an archaeologist, and he points more
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  Speaker 8: towards that it might be the body of Nathaniel Bacon
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  Speaker 8: who started a revolution in Williamsburg. This guy was the
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  Speaker 8: His grandfather was Francis Sir, Francis Bacon's uncle, and he
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  Speaker 8: had the same life trajectory almost as Francis Bacon, in
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  Speaker 8: that you know, he's born to a fairly known noble family.
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  Speaker 8: He goes to school at Cambridge, he does a tour
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  Speaker 8: of Europe with literally one of the founders of the
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  Speaker 8: Royal Society. And then he he ends up at Gray's Inn,
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  Speaker 8: the same law school that all the elites went to,
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  Speaker 8: the same law school that Francis Bacon went to. So
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  Speaker 8: he was and then marries a noble woman in like
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  Speaker 8: seventeen seventy three, so he's like set up in England
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  Speaker 8: to be the shit. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 8: in seventeen I'm sorry, sixteen seventy four, he up and
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  Speaker 8: decides that he's gonna move him and his new noble
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  Speaker 8: woman wife out to podunk nowhere, New World, Virginia and
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  Speaker 8: grow corn and tobacco. And then by sixteen seventy six,
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  Speaker 8: he has taken led a revolution, taken over the government.
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  Speaker 8: He's got the colonial governor of Virginia hiding on a
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  Speaker 8: boat in the Chesapeake Bay. He's completely taken over the government.
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  Speaker 8: And then he dies of dysentery, and they never find
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  Speaker 8: the body because his followers hit it somewhere most likely
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  Speaker 8: to keep his body from being desecrated, like, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a couple decades later, the way they did with Blackbeard,
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  Speaker 8: where they cut his head off, hung it in front
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  Speaker 8: of the you know, in Chesapeake Bay, and then walked
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  Speaker 8: it up and down this street right here, and then
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  Speaker 8: it was turned into a silver punch bowl at the
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  Speaker 8: Masons at the tavern where the Masons and the Phi
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  Speaker 8: Beta Kappa was created in Williamsburg. That was a bunch
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  Speaker 8: of random Virginia. I always feel like I got to
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  Speaker 8: give everybody the like Virginia, Williamsburg, Rundown before I get
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  Speaker 8: into it. But it's it's.
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  Speaker 5: Really fascinating to me. I've actually done Maybe you have
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  Speaker 5: to since you've looked into the grail lore stuff, but
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  Speaker 5: I've actually done a lot of research and a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people think Francis Bacon and Shakespeare are the same person.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I subscribe.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get out of here anytime tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get him started.
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  Speaker 8: On that, Okay, I'll just say quick.
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  Speaker 4: I'll make it worse too, because there's so much stuff
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  Speaker 4: about that that I can even.
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  Speaker 2: Described.
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  Speaker 8: To Shakespeare is Shakespeare by committee. Francis Bacon had a
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  Speaker 8: literary society called the Society of the Helmet, which literally
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  Speaker 8: membership contained every single person that historians, anybody who doesn't
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  Speaker 8: think that Shakespeare was the actual author, all the people
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  Speaker 8: that they put up as possibilities of author authorship for Shakespeare.
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  Speaker 8: All those people were part of Francis Bacon's literary society
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  Speaker 8: called the Society of the Helmet, named after the goddess Asena,
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  Speaker 8: who shook her spear in her sphere of knowledge in
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  Speaker 8: the face of ignorance. And I mean specifically the seventeenth
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  Speaker 8: Earl of Oxford definitely wrote some of the plays. They
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  Speaker 8: in modern day they found two plays in the Oxfordian
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  Speaker 8: Library like a in a portfolio that are rough drafts
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  Speaker 8: of two Shakespeare plays with different names of the exact
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  Speaker 8: same play.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe the least known work of Shakespeare could possibly
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  Speaker 5: be the Bible.
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  Speaker 8: That was definitely the sixteen eleven Bible. I think what's
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  Speaker 8: what's really interesting is that, so the sixteen eleven Bible
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  Speaker 8: comes out in sixteen eleven, that was definitely under Francis
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  Speaker 8: Bacon's purview. Again officially, he was the guy who kind
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  Speaker 8: of farmed out the different books to different people to translate,
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  Speaker 8: and then he kind of compiled it. And that's why
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  Speaker 8: you find really interesting things in the sixteen well in
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  Speaker 8: the King James Bible, such as Psalm forty six if
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  Speaker 8: you count forty six words from the first word of
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  Speaker 8: Psalm forty six down you end up at the word shake,
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  Speaker 8: and then if you count forty six words up from
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  Speaker 8: the last word of Psalm forty six, you end up
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  Speaker 8: with spear. Both spear and shake, those two words are
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  Speaker 8: not used in the translation for other synonyms that mean
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  Speaker 8: shake or spear. They use the word lance and pike
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  Speaker 8: and things like that all over the King James Bible,
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  Speaker 8: but specifically they used shake and spear, and they also
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  Speaker 8: use shake. And I'm sorry, like all these other different
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  Speaker 8: synonyms all over the Bible for the word shake, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: in that one they they don't.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: But well, drender on the same I'm glad they're on
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: the same page as that, because you were talking about it,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: and in the back of my head I was thinking, like, well,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: they're probably the same for you know, Shakespeare, Francis Bacon,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: they're probably the same person.
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Another part of the Grail Lord that reminds me of
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: what you're talking about with this area right here, is
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: so that pope, I think in France or somewhere he
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: found something buried under that church that he was in
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: charge of and he became like a millionaire overnight. And
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: ren Lea, yeah, chateau, Yes, that's It kind of reminds me.
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: Of that that that all kind of runs into the
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: same the same people and the same the same idea
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: as you're talking.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: About, does it really?
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, mayrivenge again from the Mayravngians to the Carolinian
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: to the Plantagenets, to the Templars, to the Stuarts up
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: to the Jacobites and America. And and there's a line
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: of succession from ancient mystery schools to the mariv Engians
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: up through the Crusades and the Assassine and the Templars
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: into the Rosicrucians, into the Royal Society and the Invisible
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: College and then finally Freemasonry and and then the different
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: arms that came off of that. Let me get.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Before, was that the brief period of time where the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: papacy was moved to France for that very brief period
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: And I think that was so the Renally Chateau, I mean,
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: it has a long history, but the the the priests
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: who he found, he found supposedly some documents in side
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: a Byzantine statue that was on the abbey, like at
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: the abbey in at Rentless Chateau. And I want to
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: say he was like that happened in like the eighteen hundreds.
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah it did, so it was modern day papacy, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: who knows where, But like should I had a point.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: He died funny too, like they like.
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he also had the girlfriend who lived like on
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: the property, and like he built, he rebuilt the whole
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: town of Rendless Chateau.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Would throw like lavish parties and stuff they.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: Put in like big aquifers water to the whole town.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: And he completely like the the abbey at Rindless Chateau
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: is covered in gold and jewels and silver and stuff,
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: and none of it was like that until after he
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: became the priest of this little abbey in kind of
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: nowhere outskirts of France. And then one day he almost
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: has a paralleled story to the templars, and that they
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: went over to the Crusades, ended up on the Temple Mount,
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: camping out on the Temple Mount, dug underneath it for
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: like a year, and then just up and left and
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: went to go see the Pope. And then from that
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: point on the Pope put out a palpal bull saying
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: these guys are made men. They answer to no one
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: but God and me. They pay no taxes, they have
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: no allegiance to anybody except for Godden me. Well, this
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: guy in the eighteen hundreds, he just up and goes
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: and gets an audience with the Pope, which is harder
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: than people think, even for a priest. And after that
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: he's like the wealthiest priest on earth. And you can
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: still go to the abbey and you can see you
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: can see the kind of fruits of that, and nobody
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: really knows where that money came from. But let's look
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: at some of these, because I'm gonna take up all
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: the time talking nonsense.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: So in the last time I was on here, I
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: talked about the original. This is the original. I don't
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: know how I did that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I did that?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Oh you did that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: I don't know how to switch. Oh, I see all right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: So this triangle represents the original property of the historic campus.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: Everything from this baseline down was pasture land in woods.
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: And I noticed that it had an interesting shape. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: I started measuring it and comparing it against the Great
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: Pyramid of Giza. And it's an exact incode of the
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: Great Pyramid of Giza. And you might be thinking, like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: this line here is kind of weird because it kind
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: of goes right up against this building here. The oldest
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: map that we have of Williamsburg is the Frenchman's map
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: from seventeen forty and road right here doesn't have this
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: little bump out back then it went right up against
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: this this house. So this was the original kind of
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: road line. Also, these two roads here are the oldest
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: roads in the country. This is Jamestown Road that goes
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: all the way to the Jamestown Fort. And then this
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: is Richmond Road that runs all the way from here
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: all the way to the to the second settlement in
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: Virginia which was at the falls of the James River
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: and Richmond. So these are very old roads. Specifically, they
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: put this this, this college on this land in between
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: these two roads. So you measure these This is from
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: from from the apex down. That is the exact measurement
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: of the side of the Great Pyramid of Giza, from
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: here down to the base. It's the exact same length.
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: The base is the exact same length. What's really cool
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: is from the apex to right here, which is now
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: the bell tower of the Christopher Wren Building, named after
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: the co founder of the Royal Society, Sir Christopher Wren.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: Supposedly he designed it, but at the very least it
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: was designed with him in mind. So from this point
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: to the Bell Tower is the exact measurement if you
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: were standing on the if you could somehow stand on
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: the floor of the Great Pyramid of Giza and measure
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: straight up to the capstone, that's the exact measurement of that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: And what's really interesting is that this hasn't always been
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: a bell tower. Originally, when the building was built, it
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: was the new world's first astronomical observatory. So that was
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: literally the place where learned people would be able to
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: navigate and survey and be able to create a line
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: that goes all the way across the globe and lands
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: directly on the Great Pyramid of Giza. And not only
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: does it land on the Great Pyramid of Giza, it
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: runs exactly down the exact same side as it does
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: back here at the William and Mary Pyramid.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: And just want to say something real quick, Yeah you
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: said that was observatory, right, correct, Yeah, observative. You know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I just want to add in, like I'm covering Tycho
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Brahe and he was huge, I mean basically Kepler used
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: all this shit. That guy like built his own stuff.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: He actually like changed things. The guy is a huge
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: impact actually on astrology and on all this stuff, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: seeing this ship and when he built his observatories, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I kind of like knew he was into like, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: alchemy to an extent. So I was going to cover
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: him on the show, but like I started really like
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: trying to look into his observatories because I was just like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I really want to see what the fuck's going on
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: in there. And eventually you go through an academic PaperWorks
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: you find some details this guy's was actually designed. They
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: had talismans on the wall, the way the outside of
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: the garden was done, their their flower beds were done
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: in planetary energies. This this whole place was built with
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: a cult ideas behind it. So I'm just saying, like,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, probably same with this one.
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: What do you wait till I get to the tech tractus,
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: which is something that I had never heard of before
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: and falls right in line with the cabalistic tree of
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: life and lays well, we'll get to it. So anyway,
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: so this pyramid is the first I think this was
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: the first kind of alignment they built into the landscape.
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: Might have been a happy accident. These you know, they
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: put a they put a school on a piece of
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: land that was in between two roads that come to
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: a point that could have been a coincidence, but the
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: fact that it points straight to the Great Pyramid of Geese,
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: I just there's no possible way if you put if
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: you put this line, the end of this line on
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: any of the other pyramids or the Sphinx, it does
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: not line up and and and run into this. This
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: apex perfectly like this. So there's that. Once I found that,
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: I was watching a lot of the Curse of Oak
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: Island and a really brilliant guy came on there named
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: Peter Almondson, this like Nordic dude, probably one of Daniel's cousins,
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: and he found a tree of Life configuration on the island,
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: and they actually had him come come to the island
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: and they kind of walked it out and at several
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: of the points where the Sepharat would land, they actually
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: found really significant finds. So I was like, well, let
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: me see if I can find something like that at
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: William and Mary, and just you can see with an
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: overhead view of the campus, you have they have tree
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: the tree of life configuration has been built into so
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: many different city scapes, and I see people kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: try to shoehorn a man, and none of them are
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: as perfect as the one at William and Mary.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: And I think that's funny. Shoehornam in because this is
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: even I'm gonna call this. And I've seen some people like, yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: They're like a little cock guy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, this
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: one is perfect. And when you find out that, you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: this is the original building, the the sunken garden here,
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: and then these six buildings, the uh, the rock garden here,
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: and then the Crimdell Pond. The crimdal Pond is the original.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: That's the end of the creek that the original sixteen
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: oh seven mission to the New World that was that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: That's the end of the first creek that they went up.
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: It's called College Creek now, but it used to be
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: called Archer's Hope until the nineteen twenties when the Rockefellers
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: came in. It was called Archer's Hope because Sir Gabriel
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: Archie Archer, the big swing and Dong of the sixteen
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: oh seven mission. He was adamant that this be where
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: the James Fort be put, but they decided against it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: The creek wasn't deep enough to turn the boats around,
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: but they called it Archer's Hope in honor him forever.
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: And then also on top of that, they in twenty
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: ten they finally found Sir Gabriel Archer buried under the
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: Jamestown Church. He's buried the opposite way that Christians are buried.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: I can't remember if you rise to the east of
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: the way, however it is he's buried opposite. And he
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: was buried with a little reliquary on him, this little
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: lead box that when they X rayed it, it's got
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: fragments of bone, fragments of parchment, and a little vial
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: of liquid. So it turns out that Sir Gabriel Archer
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: was a crypto Catholic or something of the sort in
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: a time where it was this was James the first
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: Protestant era, like you were getting hung, you were getting
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: run out of the country if if you were a Catholic.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: Only was he this secret Catholic. But the people over
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: here in sixteen o seven knew about it enough to
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: where they buried him with those kind of Catholic honors. Anyway,
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Tree of Life, these six buildings and the sunken garden
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: were created during the Rockefeller renovation, and the guy that
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: they had, the architect that they had designed this area
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: in these buildings was a guy named Charles M. Robinson,
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: a master mason from Virginia. Built a lot of buildings,
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: including the Mosque where it's now the Altria Theater in Richmond,
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: which at the time he built it in the nineteen
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: teens or twenties was the largest Masonic meeting hall in
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: all of North America. And also while he happened to
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: be here in Williamsburg, the original seventeen hundred's Mason's lodge,
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: the number six Lodge here in Williamsburg was just gone.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: They had moved to another another building, and he rebuilt
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: it with his own money and then gifted it to
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: the Masons in town. So I find this, uh, this
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: tree of life where the first sepharat is here at
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: the Krimdell Pond, the next one is is here at
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: this geological garden. The you've Goter's one and two, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: then they end with the original building being the Crown
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: or cather right. What's cool is that these two pillars
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: in on the Tree of Life represent the the feminine
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: on the left and the masculine on the right, and
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: the female housing was originally on the left in these
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: left three buildings, and the male housing was in the right.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: And then the whole point there is at kether or
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: crown on the tree of life. It is marriage of
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: the masculine and the feminine. And what better name or
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: or point for the crown suffer at than a building
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: that is named after King William and Queen Mary, literally
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: the masculine and feminine crown. So there's that, And since
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: since I got this kind of idea from Oak Island,
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: and there's a ton of connections between Oak Island and
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: uh William and Mary, including the same trees where the
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: first trees cultivated on on the campus were the same
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: trees that were cultivated at Oak Island. And what gave
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: it its namesake? The governor who developed William and Mary,
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: Francis Nicholson, was also the governor of Nova Scotia direct
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: after being the governor of Virginia, and he had a
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: short period as the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: The person who succeeded him after he left the Massachusetts
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: Bay Colony to become the Virginia governor was a guy
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: named Sir William Phipps, who was a privateer pirate who
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: was responsible for salvaging six tons of silver from the
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: Concepcion Treasure galleon in the Caribbean, and he was supposed
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: to get all the silver off of this sunken ship
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: and take it all to England. Well, he only showed
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: up with three of the six tons and said that
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: they couldn't get it all off, and when they went
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: back they couldn't find it. One of the best theories
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: at the Curse of Oak Island that's been put forward
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: is that the silver, the three tons of silver that
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: was missing from the Phipps expedition, ended up there. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: so I always found the connection interesting that the governor,
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: who is the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony where
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: Phipps was out of, was the governor when Phipps went
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: on his expedition, and then Phipps replaced that governor, and
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: that governor came down to Virginia, became the governor of Virginia,
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: and then after being the governor of Virginia, went up
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: to Nova Scotia, and then the only thing we know
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: about Francis Nicholson's family is that he had a sister
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: and that she lived in Canada and her last name
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: was Phipps. So that's interesting. So I drew a line
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: coming from this Seppharratt through the Crown Seffarrat and wondered
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: where it would end up. And it ends up in
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: Nova Scotia and directly on Oak Island. Not only does
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: it end up on Oak Island, but it touches a
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: massive boulder that they've proven to be hand hewn boulders
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: that create there's one, two, three, four, five, six of
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: them that create what they call Nolan's Cross. And so
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: coming through those two sepharat and going to Oak Island,
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: you land directly on one of the boulders of Nolan's Cross.
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: So of course I was like, well, maybe there's a
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: Nolan's Cross configuration at William and Mary. And so the
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: first thing I did was look up the dimensions of
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: Nolan's Cross and it's one hundred and forty five feet
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: from the first point. There's a really weird statue that
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: sits right in the middle of the wren yard and
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: it is Lord Bottatot. Lord Bottatot was an very early
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: mason at the Number six Lodge. He built Commission and
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: had built the Worshipful Master's Chair that still exists, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: you can go see this statue had originally been placed
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: at the Capitol Building and then moved to William and
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: Mary and then hidden for a little while during the Revolution,
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: and then again during the Civil War. Some guy cut
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: its head off at some point, but it's always come
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: back to this specific spot, which is exactly one hundred
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: and forty five feet from the front door of the
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: original building. The other thing was each of these arms
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: of the cross are three hundred and sixty feet. It's
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: exactly three hundred and sixty feet from the door to
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: the edge of these oldest roads in basically in the country. Now,
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: what's weird was when I found Nolan's Cross, I didn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: put it together with the Originally I didn't put it
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: together with the Tree of Life. And when I did
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: the Tree of Life, you can kind of see, you've
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: got Tree of Life should have ten cepharat, and then
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: there's a hidden ceppharrat. Okay, so each of all the
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: buildings represent a cepharat, right, but then there's a cepharrat
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: that's supposed to land right here and right here. And
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: so when I did the Tree of Life. I was like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: oh wow, they ross in the exact in the exact spot. Well,
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: you can see on Nolan's cross that there's a boulder here,
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: and there's a boulder here, and from the cross section
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: to the first to E it's four hundred and twenty
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: nine feet. What just happens to be exactly four hundred
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: and twenty nine feet to where these two lines of
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: the Tree of Life cross and then it's two hundred
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: and ninety three feet from E to F and it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: exactly two hundred and ninety three feet from this sepharat
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: here to this cepharrat. And you'll see later on once
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: all my crazy uh Charlie day strings get on here.
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: Everything crosses through the middle through this sepharrat which is Tipareth,
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: which means beauty.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: So you've been around together by yourself, I did, I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: a psychopath.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: What the fuck it's been like?
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: This is crazy.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been like eight years of me just picking
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: apart and I was, you know, I've been.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: He did this ship in two weeks. He's like what.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, just all these little diagrams you in, like
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: all the connections and stuff, Like.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I would not have the patience
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to even make these lines. I'd fu this my.
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: Godly doing them.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: The crazy part it's it's what the measurements actually ended
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: up coming out to me in all those intersections, because
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the first time he showed me some stuff, I think
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: we were at one of his restaurants and he was
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: doing some some measured lines on Google Earth, and I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, it's kind
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: of cool, but this has gone crazy, and not crazy
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in a lunatic way, but it's like, how could you
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: deny the overlaps and the measurements and all these things.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely fascinating.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: I agree, there's no denying it. I mean, it's it's
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: pretty crazy.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: So the next thing, so one of the early episodes
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: that me and Daniel did because I ran across a
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: bunch of measurements on the campus of William and Mary.
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: Just about every monument is laid out on a scale
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: of six hundred and sixty six, So like every measurement
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: is six sixty six, which of course means one, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: one thing to one group. Personally, For me, it means
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: what it means because I come from a Christian worldview.
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: But then of course with Mason's who are putting all
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: this together, and they've kind of fetishized Solomon, and so
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: it means a whole lot of things to Solomon, including
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: the six hundred and sixty six talents he was paid
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: in tax, the star of Ren fan and so one
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: of the early podcast that we did is we started
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: going around and measuring measuring things on the campus and
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: we came up with just dozens of six six six measurements.
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: But the most interesting.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: One when you say campus, just to just to clarify, yeah,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: what what kind of campus is like people go to
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: school here or like, well, yeah, yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: So this is the technically it's the second oldest college
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: in the country. Oh it's a college, Okay, yeah, it's
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: the College of William and Mary and it is so
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: it was actually planned in sixteen eighteen, and so had
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: they been able to get their crap together and build
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: the building, they'd have been the first. But Harvard technically
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: beat them with a crappy little building before. But this
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: building right here, the Crown or Kether h the Christopher
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: Wren Building, is the oldest content and you, uh, the
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: oldest college college building that's been in continuous use in
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: the United States. Second oldest college in the United States.
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: It's an Ivy League school. It's what they call a
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: public ivy where Yale and Harvard or are private schools.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: William and Mary went public part of the way through
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: it's through its existence and and it's it's an incredible school,
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: incredible law school right in the heart of of you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: this is where I grew up. I grew up right
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: down the street from here.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: So is there any type of you know, tell me
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: to fuck off if you don't think so, But are
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: there any type of rumors about like some sinister stuff
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: running through this school?
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: Well, this school has the highest suicide rate of the
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: campus in the country. It is like the most funted
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: campus on it. You can see on foggy nights, you
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: can see, uh, this building right here, the one that
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: I talked about that the road runs right up against.
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: That's called the Brafferton Building. And it was basically an
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: indoctrination school for Native Americans. They originally they basically treated
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: it almost Game of Throne style hostage, like we're going
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: to take they go, and they'd steal kids from tribes
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: and then they put them in this school under the
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: guise of teaching them Christianity and how to speak English.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: And if they did that, they had some reassurance that they,
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: you know, this area wouldn't get raided because they basically
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: had hostages and they did it by force in the beginning,
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: and then they changed it to basically running it into
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: a program, which was, you know, a give and take
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: of we're gonna we're gonna teach your kids, don't don't
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: shoot us up kind of thing, and so on. The
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: sunken garden here in the middle on foggy nights, tons
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: of people have reported. Tons of people have reported seeing
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: like Native Americans like dancing and things like that. They
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, the head of Blackbeard is seen floating up
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: and down Duke of Gloucester Street. Yeah, it's you know,
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: I can't put my fingers specifically on anything super super
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: like nefarious other than this was a very early place
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: where they that they imbued with Masonic symbolism. And I
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: do believe that masonry is just the next step in
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: kind of a control system that was laid down by
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: you know, bloodline families that you know, needed to rule
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: over people. And I really think it was just a
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: rebranding for the Stuart dynasty and a new way of
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: holding control. So there's that. So me and Daniel measure it,
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: started measuring the campus, and it's six hundred and sixty
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: six feet halfway through here, six hundred and sixty six
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: feet to hear, it's the same way all the way around.
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: And we just had this triangle. But I had always
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: noticed there's a road that runs down here and a
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: road that runs down here, and there's a there's a
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: special symbolism within masonry about a diamond next to two triangles.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: I can't remember what it was. We looked it up,
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: but what we found interesting was they bent these buildings
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: to stay with this. These two triangles here are exactly
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: six hundred and sixty six feet by six hundred and
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: sixty six feet by six hundred and sixty six feet,
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: which means that this triangle is completely encoded with other
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: triangles that are six hundred and sixty six feet. And
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: I was like, I don't even know if that's a thing,
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: but I did find it interesting that, of course the
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: dead center of it lines up right with that Sepharrat
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: of Tipareth, And so I started looking up esoteric meanings
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: of triangles within triangles, and I ran into something I'd
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: never heard of before, and it's called the tech Tractus
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: or the tech trad or the tech tractus of the decad,
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: which is a pythagora used in the For the Greeks,
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: it was used in the secret worship of Pythagoreanism, which
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: was a thing I didn't know. It was a cult
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: around the Pythagorean teachings. And then also that Kabbala uses
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: the exact same symbol to also represent the tree. It
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: works in conjunction with the tree of life. And so
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: I started learning about the tech tractus, and when I
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: came along to so each of these road you can
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: kind of see here that with the Greeks it's a
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: point and a point and then three points and then
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: four points, and it's specific in both Pythagorean occultism and
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: then in Kabbala. But each of those rows have meanings.
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: And so the first row has a meaning. I'm trying
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: to remember it's the third row and I can't see
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: it because the little slide thing is in my way,
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: but it means beauty. The third row means beauty. And
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: I didn't realize this until I was doing a podcast
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: on this, and I went back to the tech tractics
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: and realized that the third row of the tech tractice
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: here at William and Mary runs directly across this line.
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: You got one, two, three, which makes it the third row,
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: and the very center point of the third row sits
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: right on the sepharat that means beauty on the tree
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: of life. And then of course this line of the
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: tech tractis means beauty in conjunction with the tree of life.
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: So running off.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Of those since fucked up, I can't believe.
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: This running off running off the same these same six
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: sixty six measurements, this sunken garden which was built by
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: that architect Charles M. Robinson. The exact measurement from corner
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: to corner is six sixty six both ways, which also
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: crosses coincidentally in that same cepharrat. And then you've got
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: this diamond here. So you go from the crown sefpharrat
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: over to there is a statue of the founder of
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: the college, James Blair. That's six hundred and sixty six
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: feet down to the bottom cepharrat, which is the Krimdell
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: Pond and bridge six hundred and sixty six feet right
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: up here. You can't see him, but there is a
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: little alcove and a a statue of Thomas Jefferson, and
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: he's actually facing and looking towards the Bruton Parish Church
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: which is up this way, and then it's six hundred
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: and sixty six feet back. There's also there is a
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: statue of James Madison, and then a statue of three
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: statues of the Tyler family. The Tyler family were an
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: aristocratic family in Virginia, president's attorney, generals, presidents of the college.
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: They're still important around here, and they there's three busts
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: of them right here. It's exactly six hundred and sixty
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: six feet from Madison to them. What's really weird is
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: if you stand in this court equidistant between the busts
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: of the Tylers and this building. It's there, there's a
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: name for it. But if you speak out loud in
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: this court, your your voice is like disembodied. It doesn't
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: sound like it's coming out of It may just be
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: just an architectural like anomaly, but they've noticed it, and
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: there's a little plaque there talking about it. But if
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: you speak out loud here it sounds like your voice
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: is coming back at you from like all around you.
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: It's really strange. And then I also have a configuration
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: where I believe that the entire campus is laid out
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: to mimic a Masonic lodge, in that the Wren Building
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: would be the Worshipful Master because this is this way
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: is east, and this is where the Worshipful Master would sit.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: The first kind of academic building is over here on
• 51:40
  Speaker 8: this left side, and that is where in the lodge
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: a the secretary would sit, and then the chaplain would
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: sit to the left hand of the Worshipful Master. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: this wing of the Wren building here is the is
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: the Wren Chapel. And then of course you you've got
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: over here on the right side, which would be I'm thinking, yeah,
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: the south side of a which and all the of
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: this is aligned to the same compass points. But over
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: here on the right side of a Masonic lodge you
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: would have right here in the middle you would have
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: in a lodge building, you would have the warden I'm sorry,
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: either junior or senior warden of the south. And right
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: where you would have that, you do have that statue
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: of Thomas Jefferson who was a Mason. And then what
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: really clinched it for me was these guys over here.
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: Because the guy who sits outside sword drawn on the
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: outside wall of a Masonic lodge is referred to as
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: a tyler. It's spelled t I l e R. So literally,
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: in this same position you have a family of Tyler's
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: sitting out out here. And then also some of these
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: buildings aligned with different points in the lodge. Also in
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: the middle of a of the floor of the tessaak
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: floor of a Masonic lodge, right here is where you
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: would have the the altar where the Bible sits, the
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: square compass sits on the open Bible. Their altars is
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: right in the middle. And then obviously with people sitting
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: facing towards the inside. What's really interesting is that the
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: Wren Chapel, which is contained in this wing of the
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: Wren building, is set up like no chapel of its time,
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: you know chapel. You have a pulpit in the front,
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: and then you have kind of stadium seating coming back.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: I mean you've got the Brute and Parish churchill a
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: block away. That is an example of that. It's not
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: like that in this chapel. It's set up exactly like
• 53:49
  Speaker 8: a Masonic lodge, where the benches are all facing inside
• 53:52
  Speaker 8: towards the aisle, so you almost have a mirroring of
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: this being a Masonic lodge and then the whole landscape
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: being a Masami lodge. I think maybe not. And then
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: there's this weird lightning bolt again six hundred and sixty
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: six feet from this sepherat over to this strange there's
• 54:15
  Speaker 8: a cemetery in the middle of the college, and it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: a little cemetery for like one or two guys, a
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: guy named Yule who was really important to the college.
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: He opened it back up after the Civil War, and
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: then again six hundred and sixty six feet from him
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: to Thomas Jefferson, and then again six hundred and sixty
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: six feet from Jefferson to the Krimdal pond. So I
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: throw down the Oak Island Tree of Life and then
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: throw the Tesserat over or the tech Tractus over top
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: of it. And what's interesting is where I've got the
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: tech Tractus on Oak Island. You cannot put that size
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: triangle on this island in any other direction. It only
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: fits on this island in this way. So I was like, well,
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: that could be something or it could be nothing, except
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: for you know, again, it landed right here. The dead
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: center of it lands right here on Tipareth or the
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: Sepharratte for beauty. And then I was like, well, let
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: me find the center of the island. So I make
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: my own little compass, and the exact dead center of
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: Oak Island is right here in the center where Tipaereth
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: is and the tech Tractus line of Beauty is. And
• 55:35
  Speaker 8: this is a true northeast compass. So again, so we've
• 55:43
  Speaker 8: got the line that goes from the Williamsburg Tree of
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: Life that runs all the way to Oak Island, which
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: is here, but it keeps going and you can see
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: it runs through and keeps going, and where it ends
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: up is in the north of London and specifically on
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: this piece of land and specifically right over top of
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: this thing called the Round Tower. And this this building
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: and this property is known as Bruce Castle. And so
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: the Bruce Castle is named that because this land belonged
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: to Robert the Bruce and the Bruce family of Scotland
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: of you know William Wallace Braveheart Lore right, so this
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: land they lost, this land obviously when Robert the Bruce
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: gains Scotland's independence, also Robert the Bruce. The Bruce family
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: comes from French, the Norman French who come from the
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: Mayor Vngian and the Plantagenets. This round tower here that
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: is on this property, they believe as well, because it
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: goes really deep into the and also this is the oldest.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: They don't know when this was built, but they know
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: that this is the absolute oldest construction on this site.
• 57:08
  Speaker 8: So it goes through there and this is the only
• 57:10
  Speaker 8: thing it hits in London. I have gone over this
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: line with a fine tooth comb and it hits nothing
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: else else. Interesting. I thought for sure it was going
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: to go over like a statue of Francis Bacon or like.
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: Actually it does. It goes through one thing, the building
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: that they filmed Hogwarts. It goes over that building as well.
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: I don't think that means anything, but yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: That definitely means something.
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: So it keeps going and it heads over It goes
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: straight through Istanbul and finally it lands here in Antioka,
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: which is Antiot, Turkey. And not only does it go
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: to Antioch, a very significant point during the Crusades, but
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: it lands directly on the front door of Saint Peter's
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: cave church. Now, this is the first century church that
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: the apostle Saint Peter preached in secret in Okay. Not
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: only that, during the First Crusade, the discovery, the supposed
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: discovery of the Holy Lance was found underneath the altar
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: in this cave church. And I'm just going to read
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: this real quick because it's a really interesting story. The
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: very spear that appears Christ's side on the cross could
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: be found in the cathedral Saint Peter in Antioch. The bishop,
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: I think, I crap. Anyway, this guy who was like
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: a na'er do well. The Crusaders were inside the fortress
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: in the city of Antioch and they were like besieged
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: and they were all going to die, and this kind
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: of narrati well guy in the city comes to somebody,
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: a bishop, and says that he has a dream that
• 59:08
  Speaker 8: Saint Andrew came to him and told him that they
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: could find the Spear of Destiny, the Lance of Longinus,
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: in Saint Peter's cave church and that would help them
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: get get out of it.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: So they go and they dig and dig and dig,
• 59:25
  Speaker 8: and nobody can find it and then this guy Peter
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: jumps down in the hole and finds it immediately. Now
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: there was a bunch of people. It's documented that he
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: jumped down there wearing only like a tunic, just a shirt,
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: and actually the bishop that was there claims he was like,
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: I did see like a piece of iron in there,
• 59:46
  Speaker 8: but I didn't think it was anything. And then he
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: got down there and picked it up and it was.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: It was definitely a the spearhead. So what ends up
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: happening is so on twenty eighth, like I said, they
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: were besieged, starving, following further instructions issued by Peter Bartholomew.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: That's the dude from Saint Andrew who guaranteed victory. In
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: another vision, the Crusaders sailed out of Antioch were led
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: by their best soldier, the Norman warrior Behemd of Toronto,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: with the Holy Lance carried by Raymond of Algear. Desperately
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: weak from hunger, they were in an exalted mood, and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: some cry it out that they could see celestial cavalry
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: men on white horses riding to help them, burying white
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: banners and led by Saint George in berserk and berserker frenzy,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: they sent the besieging Saracen's packing and slaughtered many of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: them in flight, so that I believe that's where the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: kind of story of the spear of destiny in the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: army that carries it in front of it will will
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: not fail.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Daniel, you pretty much got fucked you well, I got
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: twenty minutes left.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: I'm joking. No, that was, uh, you want.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: To guess it. You're gonna You're gonna lay all that
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: out there, and.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: I know they go switch into something else.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: Talk for two hours on the last podcast and couldn't
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 8: show any of those, so I just wanted to get.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Those out of the way.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, and this is probably was gonna happen.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: People listening to me. I'm like, yo, I should be
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: this is gonna go an hour. I should just make
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: this part two and then I'll do the other one.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: It's a totally different show.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 8: I think he did the other one in two parts.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this will be part three and I'll just
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: do that. It's gonna be a separate show after this
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: at this point. Yeah, it kind of is.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: But this is kind of a fun interesting, somewhat tie
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  Speaker 8: into all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: You know what was awesome about it is that last
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: time you really didn't want to go into it too
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  Speaker 4: much because you didn't have all the visuals even if
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: people even if people yeah, right, no he didn't. We're
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: even trying to get him to do any wouldn't. So
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: now like when people re listen to this, even though
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: it was the old stuff, it's fucking ten times more information.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, because you actually talked for that.
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  Speaker 1: The first time. He showed me some of the William
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: and Mary measurements. As I've already said, we were at
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: the restaurant and you know, he pulled it up on
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: his phone. He's like checked us out these triangles six
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: sixty six. When we did an episode about this recently,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all this other stuff was new to me and it
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: was like I hadn't even seen that you'd laid all
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: these other shapes and figures over top of things. It
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: was pretty well, but anyway, that.
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  Speaker 3: Was a wild ship, all right.
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  Speaker 8: You want to get into the the other thing.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: We want to get into the boring, just lame, regular
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: history of something that happened. But it's not it did
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: because of course that was where we started with this episode.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: We were talking about topics that we were going to cover,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: and I said, you know, since we're doing little known
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Virginia history. Since I was four years old a long
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: time ago, I would go camping in the mountains at
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Virginia and the Shenandoah Valley, and there's a place where
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you cross over the mountains and there's a little plaque
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: commemorating what's called the Expedition of the Knights of the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Golden Horseshoe, which very basically was just an expedition set
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: up in seventeen sixteen, I think by the then Virginia
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Governor Spotswood, trying to explore a new pathway into the
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: western part of Virginia. So basically, as Virginia was being
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: developed from the coasts west, you know, people were building settlements,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: the plantations, et cetera, et cetera. But there the mountains
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: were the ultimate natural barrier there, and people were always
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: trying to find what is the easiest way to get
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: over the mountains. We know the Mississippi River is out
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: there somewhere. At this time, the English are very much
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: feeling threatened by the French coming down from Canada from
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the north or the Spanish coming up from the south,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out the best way to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: get to the Missississippi River, which they know is there
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: somewhere to defend against incursions from the French of the Spanish.
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  Speaker 1: So Governor Spotswood just put together this little expedition of
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I guess at the time would have been considered sort
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: of New World nobles. Anyway, they weren't notable in Europe
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and the Old World, but they would have been notable
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to people in Virginia. And they get a couple of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: rangers together, they get some pack animals together, and they
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: set off from Williamsburg through Richmond out to a community
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: called Germana, And then that's sort of the last outpost
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: of civilization as far as they're concerned. The only people
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: who have been out farther than that in any real
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: sense are rangers. And they set off for the mountains,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and they ultimately follow a river up to this pass
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: and the mountains climb to the top, and they figure
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: out this is the best pass to get over into
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: what is now known as the Shenandoah Valley. But what
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: is interesting about that, what I thought was interesting about
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: it from the original historical perspective, was they had a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: guy that was with them, and this is where Ernie
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: will come in later, but he was one of the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: officers on the expedition, was this Huguenot lieutenant John Fontaine,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and he sort of documented this whole trip, so that's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: how we know what happened on this trip. And there's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: lots of detail in his documentation. I mean, there's one
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: day where a guy has his horse spooped and he
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: falls off and he's bitten by a rattlesnake, and that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: guy's got to go back to base camp. There's documentation
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: about what they ate every night when they stopped. These
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: guys also drank like a shit ton, so they're constantly
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: stopping and writing down everything that they consumed on the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: evening that they camped. And it's kind of funny to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: read because they'll talk about we had six kegs of ale,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and then we had fourteen bottles of wine, and then
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: we opened the sherry, and I mean, you're like, how
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: in the world did these guys drink this much and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: then wake up the next morning, get on a horse
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: in wool clothing, and then keep traveling weston And that's.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: What they documented the best. They keep like documenting the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: different liquors that they have with them, and it's preposterous.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: It's it's really rum and ale, and nobody was deadrated
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: as a motherfucker on.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone. How do they make this journey? And they don't
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: say anything about the people that are carrying all these things.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: They just talk about what it is that they're eating
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: and drinking the entire time out there. But they finally
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: get to the crest of this ridge, they take this
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: pass up which is now wherein the main road goes
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: through the mountains, still in Virginia, and that's where you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: can see this historical marker. But one of the things
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: that struck me is most interesting about this story is
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: people don't think about Virginia as a place where you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: might look over like an African savannah and see thousands
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: of buffalo and thousands of deer and all of these
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: wild animals just immediately visible to the naked eye from
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: that distance. But that's one of the things that they
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: talk about in this account of breaching the mountains is
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: all of this wildlife that was so abundant at that time.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: And also the Shenandoah Valley now is largely full of forest.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: There are a few remaining farms that are still farmed
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: in that part of Virginia today, but at that time
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: there were no farms. It was just a clean, clear
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: grassland like you would see in a nature documentary of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: an African savannah. And that's something that we've kind of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: forgotten about in Virginia history that I always thought was interesting.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: But essentially, they get to the top of this mountain
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: and Governor Spotswood has prepared a gift for all of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the men that went along with them on this expedition,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: and it's a golden horseshoe encrusted with diamonds. As some
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: accounts of the golden horseshoe go, there's some discrepancy about
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: that as well. Nobody's ever actually seen one. There's one
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: account on a family member who claimed that they remember
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: seeing it from a great great great grandfather or whatever
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: that had it in the home, and it looked like
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: a golden horseshoe. It had some diamond or diamond like
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: studs encrusted onto it as well. But all of these
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: things were given to each member of the expedition with
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: a Latin inscription that read, it is very pleasing to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: cross the mountains in this way. That is what the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: thing said. So, you know, the guys eat and drink
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: their way all the way up there. They find this
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: pass through the mountains. They say, good job, we got
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain range. We found the pass.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to go back home. They ate and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: drank all the way back home, and seemingly that's kind
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: of where the story ends. Ultimately, knowing this route that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: transcends the mountains leads to further development in Virginia, but
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: ultimately throughout the whole country, because when you have more
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: immigrants come from Ireland, Scotland, Germany, they generally arrive in
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and New York, follow the Shenandoah Valley down through
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: this area and then disperse out into Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: and so on and so forth out through the rest
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: of the country. So this little expedition by the small
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: group of people ultimately sort of broke open a lot
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: of exploration to the west in the United States. So
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: kind of pivotal for American history for some people. And
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: that was sort of where I thought the story was interesting.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: And there you go. Somebody popped it into the chat
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the original Latin translation. There if somebody is better at
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Latin than I am. They can read that. But yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: this is little known Virginia history. That's kind of a
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: cool story we should talk about. And then you know,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: we I tell Ernie this is this is like one
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: of these little known Virginia history stories we should talk about.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: And then he starts calling me like the morning we're
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: supposed to get together and record this podcast, and he's like, dude, dude, dude,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe all this other stuff that I found.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: And then I think that's where I'll flip it over.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I can almost hear.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: Him say that, yeah, all right, So yeah, I was
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: when he said he wanted to do this one. I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: kind of took a cursory look at it and I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: was like, oh, this is There's not going to be
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: anything in here. There's just a bunch of dudes boring.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: It's just really drunk on a trail, like and then
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: came came home. But I got looking into it and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: it I think it runs deeper, considering the year that
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: they did it and what was going on around that time,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: but also some of the things, well, one thing that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: they did in particular at the end of the journey,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: and then what the like kind of company became became
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: known as and and was dubbed as which was the
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: Knights of the Golden Horseshoe, which is a really lofty
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: name for a bunch of dudes who like went on
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: a camping trip, really lofty present to give these guys
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: all these golden horseshoes. And when he was talking about discrepancies,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: and I'll talk about this in a minute too, but
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: like from what I've found, each of these horseshoes that
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: he gave was different, and I've kind of tied that
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 8: into the different jewels and the different degrees in the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: different offices of Freemasonry. And this all happens in seventeen sixteen,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: and we know that seventeen seventeen was the year that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 8: the Grand Lodge of London was created, basically the year
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: of the coming out party of Freemasonry. And so my
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: overarching kind of theory on this is that this was
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: almost the American kind of the American coming out party,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: kind of the the first Masonic ritual that happened. And
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: I'll wait till the end to tell you what kind
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: of solidified that for me again, because it's me and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: I feel like I've got to explain some history before
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: I get into it. I'm going to burn through a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: real quick connection of these families and and and the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: people kind of involved. It's important to state that the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: connection between the Merivngians, the plantagenet is, the Stewarts, the Jacobites,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: the Huguenots, the South of France and all those factions
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: later connecting uh in the formation of Freemasonry. So sort
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: of a line of succession of of mysteries from biblical
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: times to the Meyrivingians through the Stewarts and resulting in Freemasonry.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: And I think America as a as a free nation.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: Important to note that this line from Mayor Avngi into
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: Stuart I believe cared far less about religion as they
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: did using religion and denomination to claim the divine right
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: of kings and to maintain power. So we're still talking
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: very early people in this colony. The guy, the governor
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: who headed up this expedition is Governor Spotswood. He was
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: the governor immediately after Francis Nicholson, the guy who went
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: up to Nova Scotia. So it may not seem like it,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: but the South of France plays again plays heavily into this.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 8: You start off in the south of France with the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: Mayor Vengians, and they're the people who claimed the christ
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: bloodline and a divine right to rule. They're they're ruling
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: the south of France between the fifth and eighth centuries.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: They get kind of infiltrated and taken over by the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: Carolinian dynasty, and that it was referred to the Carolinian
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: dynasty because that's the dynasty that kind of gets solidified
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: with Charlemagne. Contrary to popular belief, Charlemagne was also Mayrivnian.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: They say the Mayorvngian line stopped there, but it didn't
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: because Charlemagne's mother was the daughter of somebody. Anyway, He's
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: part of the Charlemagne is part of the direct line
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: of King Clovis the first, which was the beginning of
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 8: the Mayravngian dynasty, and it's through his mother's side, which
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: I find interesting because of the divine feminine aspect of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: the Mayravngian mythos right. And so it goes from the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: Carolinian dynasty into the Plantagenets. The Plantations were an English
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: dynasty from eleven hundred to fourteen hundred. They claimed connection
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: to the Mayrivngians through a figure. This is wild. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: just learned this today. They claim it through a figure
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: named Melusine, who is often depicted.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: I had somebody on who covered that God is as
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: possibly the Starbucks logo.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: Really well, it is. It is a female. It's depicted
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: as a female dragon or serpent. Also a connection to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: the Carolinians through Charlemagne's daughter who married Roorgan An ancestor
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: of the Plantagenets. Henry the Second and Edward the First
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: and Richard the Lion Heart were all part of the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: plant A dynasty. And what's interesting there is again I'm
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: talking about the south of France, and this is an
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 8: English dynasty that were kings and queens of England. But
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: not many people know this. But Richard the Lion Heart,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: the like you know, the guy, the Crusader guy, the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: the Robin Hood king.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 8: The dude didn't even speak English. He only spoke French.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: And he only spent like a month in England and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: is for his entire the entirety of his rule. And
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: he actually had nothing but shitty things to say about
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 8: the country of England. He was just you know, it
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 8: was one of those those times when you're the king
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: of like three or four places. Okay, So the Plantagenes Roregon.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: So the Plantagenets they end up because they are kind
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 8: of a French based English dynasty, they have control of
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 8: La Rochelle, which is an Atlantic ocean base. In the
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: eleven hundreds, the Plantagenes give that base to the Templars.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: That becomes the base for the Templar's fleet, right, and
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: it's said to be the place that the Templars sailed
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 8: from in thirteen oh seven when they're outlawed by the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: French king and the pope. It's La Rochelle in the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: south of France is the place that they loaded up
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: all their supposedly loaded up all their treasure whatever knights
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: got away and eighteen ships and they took off, never
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 8: seen from or heard from again there, you know, the
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 8: treasure that they may or may not have had is
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: never seen again. The knights they don't know where they went,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: and the ships are never seen again. So from eleven
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: hundred to thirteen hundreds, this is just kind of an
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: interesting aside, but it kind of rolls into the imagery
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 8: of Memento Mora, and that's that the during the Crusades,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: the Templars helped King Roger of Sicily, who was known
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: as King Roger the Jolly, defend Sicily against Muslim pirates.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 8: So together the Templars and the Knights of Malta came
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: together using their fleets to protect Sicily from the Muslim pirates,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: and they flew a skull and crossbones that ended up
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: becoming referred to as the Jolly Roger after King Roger
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: the Jolly of Sicily. And then that kind of advances forward,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: and it lends some credence to the idea that that
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 8: possibly the u these these rogue templars who who made
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: it out alive kind of became the pirates from the
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: thirteen hundreds all the way up through the Golden age
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: of piracy, or at least their ideals. They're kind of egalitarian,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: you know, vote on everything ideals. When you look at
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: the Tortuga pirate republican things like that, those things all
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: smack of this kind of all for one, one for
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: all templar ideal. So then the Stewarts come into power.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 8: They begin in the late thirteen hundreds in Scotland, and
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 8: then by the sixteen hundreds they finally get their first
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: foot in the door with King James the First in England.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: And this is really where some of my overarching theory
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: of all my research in William and Mary and Williamsburg
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: in America comes into play, because they had a hell
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 8: of a time maintaining power. They had a hell of
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: a time getting into power in Scotland, and you know,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: you got Robert the Bruce, who's a Stewart, and you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 8: know he's got a you know, half the country has
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: to die in the revolution against against England before they
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: finally win their independence. And then all the way up
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: through Queen Elizabeth, they frequently had stronger claims to the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: English throne, especially considering you know, Mary Queen of Scott's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: who Queen Elizabeth the First Francis Bacon's mother had Mary
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: Queen of Scott's head cut off, and Mary, Queen of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: Scotts had a much better claim to the throne because
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: her mother was the sister of King what was it,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: Henry the eighth, Yeah, whereas Queen Elizabeth was kind of
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: the bastard daughter of Henry the Eighth's relationship with Catherine
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: of Aragon Ara gorn Aragon, who he completely changed the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: religion of the of the country to be able to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: divorce so that he could bang Queen Elizabeth the first
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 8: Mom and Boleyn all right, blah blah blah. So the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: Plantagenet dynasty, which ruled England for three hundred years, had
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: Norman roots, which is, you know, Viking roots, through the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 8: marriage of Geoffrey of Anjou and the Empress Matilda, daughter
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: of King Henry, the first of Norman dynasty. Well, the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: Plantagenets are not directly descended from the first Norman kings,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: they inherited thrown through this connection. Speculated that when the
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 8: Templars left La Rochelle with the treasure, they sailed to
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: North America to hide it. Now, remember there is a
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: connection between the Stewarts and the Knights Templar. It's hotly debated,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: but I think there's decent evidence for it. In thirteen fourteen,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 8: towards the end of the Revolution of Scotland trying to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: get its independence in thirteen fourteen, an unnamed calvary came
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 8: to the aid of Robert the Bruce when he was
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: outnumbered to win independence. That cavalry, sporting a conspicuous templar cross,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: caused so much fear in fear to the English that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: they ran from the battlefield. This connects the Templars to
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 8: Scotland and specifically the Stewarts who were in power later
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: in England from sixteen o three to seventeen fourteen, right
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 8: around the time the folks with possible a Templar connections
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: started coming to the New World. Then you've got the Huguenots,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 8: which almost takes a turn, but I think it supports
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: my theory that these I believe the mayor of Vingians
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: and that blood line was more occulted and did not
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 8: care about Catholicism or Protestantism. I believe the people in
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: their courts and their people, yes they identified with these
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 8: different denominations and whatnot. But if you look through the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 8: Stuart line, what you see is a Catholic, a hardcore
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 8: Catholic monarch who outlaws all the Protestants. And then you'll
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: turn around and get a Protestant monarch who's a Stewart
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: who's cool with the Catholics hanging around, but they're not
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 8: going to be in power, and then vice versa all
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 8: the way through the Stewart line, and I think that
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: kind of shows that they did not Again, they didn't
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: care at that level about that religion in particular. I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: think all they cared about was their divine right to rule,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: and I think the writing was on the wall for
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 8: them that they needed to find someplace else to maintain
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: this line. So the Huguenots jump up in the sixteen
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: hundreds and they kind of their base of operations is
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: La Rochelle, France. So in this same place that the Merrivngians,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 8: the Plantagenets, the Carolinians, the Templars are all in, this
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 8: Protestant Calvinist group of French people pop up and they're
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 8: heavily in La Rochelle until Louis the fourteenth makes it
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 8: illegal to be a Protestant, and then they have to
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: kind of scatter all over the world. And that's going
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: on throughout the sixteen hundreds into the early seventeen hundreds,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: and then right around that time in the early seventeen
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: hundreds you ended up with the Jacobite Revolution. Now you
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: get the Glorious Revolution where the Stuart Kings are deposed
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: and they bring in Queen William and I'm sorry, King
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 8: William and Queen Mary and they become the monarchs of England.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 8: Right well, Queen Mary was actually of the Stuart line,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 8: so she's still holding that Maryvngie and that mayri Engi
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 8: and line, and so they're still in there. But again
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: they're they're they're seeing the the need for maintaining their
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: their their line somewhere else. That was a little bit
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: quick of a a lot of years of history there,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 8: but it was just to kind of we're going to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: get into on this expedition, these connections between people from
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 8: a lot of these different backgrounds, and I think it's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 8: important to connect all those backgrounds going all the way
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 8: back to the Mayrivngian dynasty. So the guy that Daniel
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 8: was talking about who recorded everything on the journey was
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 8: a guy named John Fontaine. He was only twenty three
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: at the time of the expedition. He kept detailed journals
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 8: which were later published by a descendant, but only in part.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: She held back, or so it said, she held back
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: large portions and people don't know why. Of the seventeen
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 8: sixteen expedition. They were a Huguenot family. John Fontaine comes
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 8: from a Huguenot family that fled France before his birth,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 8: to England where he was born, and then to Ireland. Now,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 8: while they were in England, his father and brother were
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 8: actually kidnapped by French pirates and held for ransom, and
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 8: that's why they end up. That's why they end up
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 8: immigrating to Ireland for safety. And that'll come back in
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: in a really weird way. Later he comes to Virginia,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 8: John Fontaine and seventeen fourteen at the age of twenty three,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 8: supposedly to tour the country and buy a plantation. And
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 8: we only know that from his father's autobiography, but his reasoning.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 8: Like again, he kept detailed journals of the journey over
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: to America. He kept detailed journal of everything he did
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: when he was in America, of the expeditions that he
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: went on and whatnot. But he never in his diaries
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 8: states the reason for coming to the New World. He
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: spends only four years in the colony, and all but
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 8: six weeks he's in Virginia. He went to New York
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 8: for six weeks to meet with the new governor. Now
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: this is a Huguenot refugee from Ireland who obviously has
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 8: enough family money to just come over and buy a plantation,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: or so he said. He he was over here for,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: or what his dad said he was over here for
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: but he's not plugged in that we can see to
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: the movers and shakers in the colony at all. But
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: out of the four years, six weeks he does go
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 8: up to New York to meet the New York Governor,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: who happened to be a playwright and a general and
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: also happened to be kidnapped by French pirates on his
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 8: way to become the governor of Virginia. But he was
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: held by the French pirates so long that they got
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: a new governor for Virginia, and then when he showed up,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: they're like, ah, you could just have New York. But
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: that's not the weirdest thing about this New York Governor,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: because in seventeen fifteen he writes his first play, which
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 8: is the first play to be written in the colonies,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: and it's about political rivals who in a who have
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: a secret society that meet in the basement of the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: New York Governor's mansion and they plot to kidnap him,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: the governor. That's it. That's all that's really known about display.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: But it's just so ridiculous that this guy shows up
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 8: in America and then cruises straight up to New York
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: to chat with this guy who also was kidnapped by
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 8: French pirates, who writes a play about secret societies. Okay,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 8: so when he lands in Virginia, he lands near North
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 8: Cumberland County on the Potomac, which is northern He and
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: the Captain disembark and immediately go to church right and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: they just so happened to run into a woman named
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 8: Mary Hughes aka Mary Ball Hughes, who is the grandmother
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 8: of George Washington, who was already a pretty important person
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: in the colony at that time, and she just happened
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 8: to be attending church outside her parish. She was miles
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: and miles away from the church that she usually goes to,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: and she just happens to be at that same church,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: and just so happened to have brought two extra horses
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: with her. So she invites the Captain and John Fontaine
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: back to her home at Cherry Point for dinner. They
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: stay with her for the night, and then immediately the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: next morning get on a sloop and go straight to Williamsburg.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: They land exactly at the back of William and Mary
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: where that creek is that I told you several different landings,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 8: But they decide to land right there, and they meet
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 8: with Governor Spotswood. Again. This guy is kind of a
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 8: nobody from from all we can we can we can gather.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 8: He's a Huguenot refugee, and he immediately arrives in Williamsburg
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 8: and gets an audience with the with the governor. Now
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: at this time, Spotswood, this is seventeen fifteen, and Governor
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 8: Spotswood has just been sent one of his cousins. Okay,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: now this is a time when William and Mary are
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 8: the king and Queen, and everybody's supposed to be Protestant
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: and the Stuarts are a thing of the past. Now
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 8: we're in the Hanoverian dynasty and everybody's supposed to love them. Right,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 8: But spotswood cousin gets sent to him because in seventeen fifteen,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: the Jacobites, who are the followers of the Stuart line,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 8: they they create a revolution and it goes to hell
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: and everybody is kind of exiled and running for their lives,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 8: and Governor Spotswood, his cousin gets sent to him to
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 8: kind of hide.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 8: He gets put in charge of this community called Germana
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 8: by his cousin Spotswood as an overseer. Supposedly Spotswood was
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 8: inists by his cousins and their involvement in the Jacobite Revolution,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 8: but again he puts them in charge of this little
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 8: colony called Germana on the outskirts, which ends up later
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 8: on becoming base camp for this expedition. Right a couple
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 8: months later they send him the other cousin, which is
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: the brother of the first one, George Hume, and he
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 8: became a surveyor through William and Mary and goes straight
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: to Germana as well. Now Germana is interesting this base
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 8: camp that they start at because it was basically an
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: indentured servant work camp built by Governor Spotswood for a
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 8: group of Protestant Germans from the seagan Era area of
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: Germany who are sent over in seventeen fourteen, the same
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 8: year that Fontaine came over by a baron of Switzerland
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 8: to mine for silver. I found a bit of a
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 8: connection and possibly like a Monday could could have been
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: a possible money laundering scheme for that that uh Sir
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 8: William Phipps silver treasure that they had to figure out
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: a way to account for three tons of silver during
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: the gold rush that happened a lot where people would
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: steal a bunch of gold and then they would take
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 8: it out to the gold rush, out to where they
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 8: were finding all the gold, have it all melted down
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 8: into bars, and then they could bring it back to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: the east and say, hey, we found this in the dirt.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 8: And so spots would creating this this, uh, you know,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: basically slave camp out in the woods mining for silver.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: It seemed like a plausible idea to kind of there's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: no evidence that they did, that's just an aside. So
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 8: this town are still and lies on the Rappahannock River,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 8: thirty miles above the falls at Fredericksburg, in thirty miles
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 8: from any inhabitants. The Germans lived miserably, according to legend.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 8: Oh the sagan Era area again where these Germans come from,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: according to legend, was the scene of the last stand
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 8: of the final dozen Knights Templar, who were said to
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 8: have fought to the death there in thirteen twelve, after
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 8: five years of relentless persecution by Francis King Philip and
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 8: continued by the Archbishop of Mainz.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: You know, it was something I want to ask you
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: real quick, Arlie, just because I'm probably just have to
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: interrupt you anyway, just to ask no offense. Um, no,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: you just have so much shit anyway. Is there a
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: church in New York that you might specify at some
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: point that's like in New York City because it was
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: a church.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just was just wondering because there was a
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: church I covered in New York City that I think might.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Act to Lake.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: Why tell me there was I think a couple there
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: was some sort of order that I think you said
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: end up turning into the KKK and.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 8: Oh the Nights of the Golden Circle.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, I think it was before that.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: Actually, it was something that was that was on another
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: that I covered a church in New York. I went
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: there and it had catacombs and there's just like around
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: the same time of these dates you're mentioning, they were
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: being built over there and they had like these they
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: were like almost like they were called like militias to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: protect the church when there was issues with supposed people
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: in the area not liking Catholics. Well, that's whatever it was,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: but I don't think the because when you what you said,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: I can't remember what it was. It just it was
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: an order that you mentioned that I was like, I've
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: seen that associated with the church, that was supposed to
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: protect the church, but then fifty years later it's turning
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: into the KKK, So what the fuck is up with that?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 8: Well, right during that right during that time, you do
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 8: have a Jacobite Yeah, in New York.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that was part of this situation.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: That's why I was wondering if it just seems weird
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: how you're talking about like the same ship and I'm
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: seeing the same this is around the stories around around
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: the church.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 8: It was kind of like a coordinated European Jacobite revolution
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: and then one pops off in New York. And actually
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: that same governor, Governor Governor Nicholson. I forgot he was
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 8: also he was the governor of New York at the time.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: And see the Church of New York that I'm talking
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: about is Saint Peter's. So when you mentioned Saint Peter's that,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: I was just.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 8: Like, yeah, so it's so. And it actually does make
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: sense if you follow the through line that I follow
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 8: in that the Jacobites are Scottish. They follow this Marivnngine line.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: There's a connection to the templars, right, the templars, there's
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 8: a connection to Rosicrucianism and then later on to Scottish
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 8: righte Freemasonry. Now there's York Right Freemasonry that is much
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 8: more English, and then there's Scottish Rite Freemasonry that is
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 8: much more Scottish. And then by way of the Scottish Americans,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 8: most of your Freemasons in America are Scottish, right, that's
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: like what we what we do in America.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: So you're having different denominations in religion.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, but the Scottish Right Freemasonry I got more closely
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: associated with the Scottish, with the Stewart line and with
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 8: those Jacobites. And then the Scottish Right of Freemasonry is
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 8: kind of revamped and overhauled by Albert Pike, the Confederate
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: General who also has a hand in the creation of
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 8: the KKK later. So there is a line there right there.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 8: You see that, Daniel, he showed us on the last one.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: There's more tabs on there than pages, dude.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: Read this book a lot, man like, Like he said,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: there's more tabs on here than pages.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: I go through this like like crazy, because it's just
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: a lot of information in here.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of people don't really understand.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 8: It's wild. It's stuff that most of the time, if
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 8: you tell a Mason something out of that book, they're like, no.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Way, what had that happen to me before?
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: But what we got to with the first episode about
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: the Knights of the Golden Horseshoe is thinking this is
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: just kind of an unknown bit of Virginia history is
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Ernie was ultimately able to kind of go back through
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: all these different lineages and proved that there might have
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: been some sort of proto Masonic identity to this expedition.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: This was like, maybe these guys were a precursor to
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: the premium to the to the Masons. And a lot
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: of the guys who were on the expedition, you can
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: just go look on the look up the original journal entry.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: It's it's online anywhere. If you just put in Knights
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: of the Golden Horseshoe, you can find you can find
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Fontaine's account of who was on there. And a lot
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: of those guys were known to be Masons. And then
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: I think, well, not only that most of those, Ernie
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: was that they may have gone out there with something
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: to hide, something, or there was some other reason for
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: going out there that may have been tied to the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Masonic connection, not just going to hey, let's go see
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: if we can find to pass through the mountains.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 8: Right well, and I'm about to get into that. I'm
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 8: going to finish up John Fontaine's thing again. Most of
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 8: this story, the story itself, there's not a lot of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 8: information about the expedition except for his except for his
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 8: his journals. But it's the connections with the Jacobites and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 8: with the Huguenots and those people coming together for something,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 8: and it's still not totally clear.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: But I think.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 8: It helps create more of that connective tissue from the
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 8: mayor of Engians all the way up to America. And
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 8: so really this is more of a history lesson. But
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 8: so John Fontaine again, and when you look at like
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 8: this Marivingian line and this Magdalen kind of ideal and
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 8: the divine feminine working with Governor Spotswood who's supposed to
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 8: be this Protestant, you know, loyalist. So John Fontaine has
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 8: this very strange life, comes over here, he leaves in
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 8: four years, he goes on this expedition and basically leaves
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 8: he ends up living. He ends up living in New Church, Wales,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: which is was always a templar stronghold. That's where he dies.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 8: He marries a woman named Mary Magdalene Sabatier, so her
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 8: name is Mary Magdalen, and then she's got a French
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 8: last name, I'm sure from the Huguenot connection, which is interesting.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 8: Originally possessed of his journals were published in eighteen fifty three,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: minus large portions. His the great granddaughter of John Fontaine's
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 8: sister Mary Anne Fontaine and Matthew Murray. Anne Murray is
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: the one who published them. Her father, James Murray, was
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 8: the United States consul in Liverpool, England, from seventeen ninety
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 8: to eighteen twenty nine. Another descendant of this family was
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 8: Matthew Fontaine Mourray, Pathfinder of the Seas, to whom a
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 8: monument was erected on Richmond's famed Monument Avenue in nineteen
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 8: twenty nine. I'm sure it's gone now. That was the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 8: you saw it, wasn't it on the cover of Time magazine.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: The that was covered in like graffiti and stuff. They
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 8: removed all the statues from this street, neither here nor there.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 8: But it is interesting. That is a huge that particular street.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 8: It's called Monument avenue because every like five blocks there's
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 8: a massive monument to somebody who was important to colonial
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: or civil war era South and he was up there,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: and he comes from a Huguenot family that we don't
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 8: know much about now. The horseshoe symbolism is common in freemasonry,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: the golden horseshoe with jewels in it in masonry. Okay,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry. So these pins that were given out to
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: each of the captains of all the accounts of people
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: who have seen them are different, and again I believe
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 8: that they correspond. So some of them had rubies and them,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 8: some of them had a mix of jewels, some of
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 8: them were just diamonds studded, and in masonry, different jewels
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 8: correspond to different degrees. Eyewitness accounts differ. Some say they
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 8: were a mix of different jewels, some say they were garnets,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: while a man with the first name Bacon in the
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 8: nineteen hundreds who descended from one of the adventurers, claims
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: to have held it in his hand as a child
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: and it was diamonds. Horses and horseshoes are associated with
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: the Templars because of their base of operations during the
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 8: first cruise State y'ur in the first Crusade where the
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 8: stables on the temple mount The other thing that Daniel
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 8: didn't get into was that once they crossed the mountains,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 8: they got to the Shenandoah River, and they didn't turn
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: around and come back until they made sure that they
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: crossed the river. They crossed the river named the river
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 8: the Euphrates, had a big, huge party, and then they
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 8: left and went home. The River Euphrates appears in freemasonry,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: particularly in the higher degrees, especially in those related to
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 8: the ritual of the Royal Arch degree, which is a
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 8: Scottish rite degree. It's associated with the deliverance from the Israelites,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 8: specifically their crossing of the Euphrates. In the context of freemasonry,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 8: the Euphrates signifies freedom and passage, and I I can
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 8: relate that to that uh, that need for the Stewarts
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 8: and the Mayravingian Jacobite line to to create a free
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 8: place to to uh dot dot dot dot to uh
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 8: to live and carry out their line.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: That you actually got stuck there first.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 8: No, So while it's clear the spot would was a mason, UH,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 8: it's not clear if he was a mason. We do
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 8: know that his son Robert was. In fact, he was
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 8: the worshipful master at the Frederick Fredericksburg Lodge, which is
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 8: where was George Washington was initiated. Again. Uh the oh
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 8: this is really interesting too.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 8: The guy William Phipps who went and got all the silver.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 8: The name of his ship that he took was called
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 8: the Rose of Algeria, the Rose being a main templar
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 8: sob Algeria being the home of the assassine who the
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 8: templars became buddy buddy with during the Crusades and the
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 8: main base of Barbary pirates starting in the fifteenth century,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: again connecting pirates to templars to a possible Jacobite. Colonel
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 8: Peter Fontaine Junior was a surveyor of Bedford, Virginia. Colonel
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 8: Peter Fontaine and Colonel Lydel Bacon, grand nephew of Bacon's rebellion,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 8: worked the same job together in Bedford and Lunenburg County,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 8: which is where the Bial Treasure is contained. The Bial
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 8: treasure is this eighteen hundreds treasure that was a guy
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 8: left three different ciphers with a guy who owned a tavern.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 8: The guy didn't open him up for for like forty
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 8: years and when he did, they were able to solve
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 8: one of the ciphers. One of the ciphers. They were
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: able to solve it by using the Declaration of Independence.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 8: The Declaration of Independence was written by Thomas Jefferson. Thomas
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 8: Jefferson was obsessed with Francis Bacon, including employing three people
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 8: from the direct lineage of Francis Bacon at Monticello, his home.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 8: Thomas Jefferson himself was of the Francis Bacon line through
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: the Randolph family. And yeah, yea yeah. Oh. Also, like
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 8: I said, Colonel Peter Fontaine, this is down the Fontaine
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: line in Virginia, and Colonel Lighthall Bacon, the nephew of
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 8: Nathaniel Bacon of Bacon's Rebellion. They worked the same job
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 8: job in Lunenburg County, which is where the Beal Treasure is.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: But Lunenburg County is also the name of the county
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 8: that Oak Island sets in. In Nova Scotia. Another weird thing,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 8: there were two stained glass the very famous Powder Magazine
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 8: and Colonial Williamsburg, which is in the shape of an octagon,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 8: which Court Lindolf has done a lot of work to
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 8: prove that it is a replica of the Four Towers
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 8: of the Winds in Athens, Greece. Inside of that powder
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 8: magazine were two stained glass windows made by the Phipps
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: Company out of Boston. Again from the line of Phipps,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 8: the guy who stole the treasure makes that family later
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 8: on down the road, makes two stained glass windows. One
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 8: is of Alexander Spotswood, the guy who was on this expedition.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 8: The other one is of Nathaniel Bacon, the guy who
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 8: who started the the revolution and the rebellion. So again
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 8: you've got these two seemingly disparate guys, Spotswood who was
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 8: wasn't even in the colonies when the rebellion happened, and
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 8: Nathaniel Bacon, who was kind of considered a tree. And
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 8: these two pieces of stained glass get made and get
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 8: put inside the powder magazine, which is a replica of
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 8: the Four Winds of Athens. Right down the street from
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 8: the Capitol building in Williamsburg, which is spelled cap it
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 8: l after the Capitolium in Athens, Greece, that is where
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 8: ball worship happened, the Capitolium on god one of the
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 8: hills of Rome, where child sacrifice happened. But the bell Phipps,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 8: Bacon and Fontaine genealogies are just like an insane mashup
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 8: in all of those counties in Virginia. And so I'm
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: basically done. And like I said, this story of them
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 8: crossing this mountain, naming the river the Euphrates, having a
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 8: big ass party, and then coming home and giving all
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 8: these guys a bunch of jewelry and then calling themselves
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 8: this really lofty name, the Knights of the Golden Horseshoe.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 8: None of it really had to do with the trip.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 8: I believe that it was this galvanizing experience through masonry,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 8: which I see to be the last step of the
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 8: Stuart line. This when you when you look at the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 8: Grand Lodge of London in seventeen seventeen, you look at
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 8: the guys who are involved in the founding of that.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 8: It's Royal Society members, including one of them who took
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 8: Nathaniel Bacon on a tour of Europe, Christopher Wren, who
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 8: the College of William and Mary is named after Maury,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 8: who comes from the Earl of Moury in Scotland. The
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: Earl of Moray was a Randolph, who is the Randolph
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 8: is That's the direct line to Thomas Jefferson and was
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 8: also the he took care of I believe James, no, yes,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 8: James the first as a child who is of the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 8: Bruce line in Scotland until he was of a to
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 8: be able to rule. And what I see is the
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 8: Stewart's coming from the Mayravngians through all these different families
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 8: and lines, and then still continuing to maintain that bloodline.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 8: And once they came over to America, realizing that Europe
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 8: wasn't the place for him anymore, they kind of used
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 8: this new thing that was influenced by the Templars Freemasonry,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 8: which is in itself a really perfect control structure and
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 8: a system of keeping secrets. And then you just look
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 8: up to present day how every mason in the country
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 8: is generally a Scottish Rite Freemason. So that's all I got.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just a camping trip apparently, Yeah for free
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Mason fingerprints on everything.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these are a fear. It was some Scottish right ship.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah cool. Really.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 7: I also notes and stuff that I did some digging
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 7: into the whole thing, and I got some notes.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: In the background.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 10: Please I got please to hold those those are at
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 10: my look you're breaking up. Those are I believe early
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 10: eighteen You're good, sorry, hang out one second again, all right,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 10: those are.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 8: Early damn it new headset, So bear with me.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: Is that any better?
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 8: I think so?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think there's just a delay on
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: like okay video.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: Those are.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 8: Ship damn bro, the Masons are are glitching. Those are
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 8: early eighteen hundred.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 7: I got let me take it on the images that
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 7: I know, right, those are at my local antiques.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 6: They keep cutting him off on my side about now,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: can you hear me? No, it's breaking up, bro, he's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: breaking you keep talking sorry.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Damn Yeah.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 8: It's the same thing that happened to me last Yeah you.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: Remember that every time, every.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 8: Time we're getting too deep.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, I was gonna.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: Let me.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: All right, bringing up again.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all can understand me or can
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: you'll hear me?
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: You know it's still breaking up on my side.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your frozen again.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're frozen, bro. It ain't gonna work.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 7: They're at my local antique store, and there some of them.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 8: That sounds exactly like the last That sucks.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry, that sucks. Yeah, it's brutal turn off.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: You know what you might want to do. Turn off
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: your camera and just leave the mic on. That might
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: actually work.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: You'd also pop it in the chat and have somebody
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: else read it.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, put it in the chat?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: How's that? Is that any better?
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Think so a little bit?
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. You sound okay? Now see there's
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: a glitch probably.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me try this again.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 7: All right, Well there it was at my local antique store.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 8: It's still there.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 7: It's three hundred bucks to set there, early eighteen hundreds,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 7: and like it's just it was amazing that they were
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 7: even there, Like you never see that ship anywhere. So
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 7: I'm saving up three hundred bucks in my penny jar
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 7: so I can go back and by the hopefully they're
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 7: still there.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: But I got to hold other things.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 7: I got to hold the first English translation Bible from
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 7: seventeen something whatever fuck it was, And yeah, I have
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 7: pictures of it. I can post it up. But like,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 7: holy shit, like this thing was frail. It was beautiful,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 7: and the condition. She wanted two grand for it, and
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 7: there was a recent one that went out for auction.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 8: It was five grand, but the.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Condition was so much better.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 8: But literally it was.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 7: The first one and I also got to hold the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 7: first it was also seventeen sixteen our Bible, and like, yeah,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 7: that thing was thickest shit too. But yeah, fucking a.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 7: But those Scotch Scottish Rice books, like holy crap, looking
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 7: at the images on the inside of that. It's all
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 7: confuseding his shit. But like anyone who's learned or has
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: the basics of the knowledge of them, like you can
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 7: get you can get it, you can understand it. Did
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 7: a little digging into the the the Masonic connections and
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 7: just from like from John Fontaine, Robert Beverly, uh, Junior
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 7: Major WILLIAMS.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 8: Woodford, all of them.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 7: Uh, I just there are certain ones that were like
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 7: names that were familiar to me, and so I was like,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 7: let me see if there's Masonic connections, and there is,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: But however that's to the Golden Golden Horseshoe.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 8: They're not a Masonic eight or brotherhood. They well earlier the.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: Knights of Temple Aar and the Masons themselves. Yeah, it was,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 7: it was exactly.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 8: It was technically Alexander's uh yeah.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: I think there's still a delay on your but.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 7: But I gotta I got a whole like all of them,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: just the Yeah, there's about like a six second delay.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but yeah, most most of them are
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 7: all like either uh or just like they have direct
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 7: lineage of bloodlines of these other brotherhoods.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: You know one thing you started making me think about. Uh,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I didn't to catch it earlier.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: You know, like even with the plane there, I figured
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: it was uh fuck Society of Cincinnatis they had a
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: French uh you know, was there anything did you come
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: across any of that, because I know, like they have
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: like French connections, like there was a lot of French
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: freemasons help.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 8: I mean they specifically the Huguenots were instrumental in the
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: founding of the Grand Lodge of London. And then they
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 8: have you know, in France, they have this entirely separate
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: French freemasonry that generally has like a from what I
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 8: can tell, sort of a darker, more occulted, less shiny,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 8: squeaky clean like image in the Society of the Cincinnatis.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 8: That's I hear it so much and it's so intriguing,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 8: but I haven't I haven't jumped into to it yet.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 8: I do know the basics that it was revolutionary war
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 8: officers were handpicked to be a part of it, and
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 8: then sort of after after that it gets kind of
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 8: kind of murky. I mean, there are people that we
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 8: know are a part of it, but it's not.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: A Jacqueline Jacqueline Kennedy really Boom her last name Boovia,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: she was part of it. And there's actually some a
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: couple of serial killers who are descended from like weird
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: French families who are part of the society. And just
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: a fun fact, since we're talking about Virginia, you know
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: William Colby, uh that led like the Phoenix program and stuff,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: he was actually from Virginia, spent a lot of time
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: in Virginia. Ted Bundy's family was from Virginia.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: House that's crazy, Yeah, yeah, but it does. It's such
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: an old place and it has so much history, like
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: you could go so many different ways it.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 8: It's it's like I tell everybody, I have a list
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 8: of all the things that makes Virginia a crazy conspiracy
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 8: rich place. We have everything from the Deep State up
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 8: north with DC and then we've got the Langley up there,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 8: We've got the CIA up there, We've got more we're
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 8: defense contractors, more aerospace contractors, more c I, A more
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 8: FBI than any other state. We have more UFOs. We're
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 8: in the top three of UFO sightings for the whole country.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 8: Something that you don't hear, like you always think like
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 8: out West, and like we have more military personnel in
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 8: this state than any other state except California. We've had
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 8: John Wilkes Booth, we had John Hinckley until we've had
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 8: more presidents than an all of them Mason's. So we
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 8: we run the gamut from deep state aerospace, We've got
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 8: our own, We've got several UH serial killers. We've got
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 8: the Parkway murders, which we did a podcast with Blaine Pardot,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 8: who's a New York Times bestseller, an author who basically
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 8: discovered who the who the who the killer was. It
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 8: was a cold case for years, and actually a few
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 8: years after he published his book, the guy that he
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 8: thought did it died in his house and so the
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 8: police were able to take DNA and it matched with
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 8: one of the sets of victims. We've got Camp Perry here,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 8: which is generally referred to as the farm that is
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 8: the most covert CIA base in the country. That's where
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 8: they do what they call bond training. So it's like
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 8: how to flip a car, how to drive a speedboat,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 8: torture and interrogation and how to withstand those things like
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 8: it's it's it's wild. Like I grew up in Williamsburg
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 8: where Camp Perry was, and I can't tell you how
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 8: many like friends of mine. I'd be like, what'd your
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 8: dad do for a living? They'd be like, I don't know,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 8: he works at Camp Perry. And I'm like, so he's
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 8: in the CIA, and they're like, you know, I don't
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 8: think so, but I don't know what.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: We also have a very strong connection to the early
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: American eugenics movement. There's just there's so many things. It
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: just goes on.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, the rocket career first, in a way, the
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 8: largest naval base in the entire world. The only thing
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 8: I can't find is cults. I've been searching for a
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 8: good cult.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody just put one in the chat. Yeah, the Finder's
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  Speaker 5: Cult has arm in Virginia.
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  Speaker 8: I am trying desperately. I got put in contact. He
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 8: hasn't responded to me, but my friend Robert Frederick put
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 8: me in contact with William Ramsay because I really want
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 8: to do a Finder's Cult episode with somebody who's more
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 8: like I know about it from listening to podcasts, and
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 8: it is and I think the Finder's Cult is involved
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 8: with the processed Church and with child murders and all
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 8: that stuff, like it's it gets deep and that all
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 8: happened in well, they were up in Virginia. The one
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 8: cult I did find, and it's kind of lame, but
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 8: we might do a podcast where we just do small,
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 8: little short nuggets of weird stuff in Virginia. I haven't
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 8: even told Daniel about this, but I found a cult
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 8: that began in the nineties and it was based on
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 8: the Lord of the Rings and they were a full
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 8: off breakaway that like bought all this land and named
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 8: the whole you can still go to the neighborhood and
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 8: all of the streets are named after They were like
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 8: a super conservative Christian cult. That was also why didn't.
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  Speaker 1: You say anything because I started that one?
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean you didn't even you didn't even mention
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: that I could have given you all sorts of information
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: that no, shit, no, you hadn't mentioned it yet. But
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty good But what was the other
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: one you were talking about with like it was an
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: observatory we've we've discussed doing an episode on this. It
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: was oh, Western Virginia in.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 6: The mount.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 8: That was built by the same people who built the
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 8: Maymont property in Richmond, the the Toolies who were the
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 8: most like we were talking about before the podcast started
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 8: with like the most philanthropic rich family in the Richmond area.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 8: And I always assume that there's something shady, but I
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 8: cannot find anything on them. But they built this house
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 8: in on Afton Mountain the Blue Ridge Mountains called Swana Noa,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 8: and it has all this Swan imagery all over it.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 8: And I've been looking into the Swan Nights or the
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 8: the Order of the Night of the Swan, and the
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 8: this Swan imagery pops up through all the different little
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 8: g god like mythologies and pantheons, like I think Zeus
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 8: banged a swan and that got I believe that Begat
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 8: like Athena or something like that. But anyway, so they
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 8: have this place, Swanna Noah, and then the Department of
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 8: Naval Intelligence tries to buy it right after World War
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 8: Two and they don't end up getting it. But this dude, Russell,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 8: William Russell, I believe his name was or Russell William.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 8: I can't remember this dude, who's If you go on
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 8: any of these like Energetic ether like Electric Universe authors
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 8: and stuff like that, they talk about this guy forever.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 8: Him and his wife bought it and they started this
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 8: like philosophical college out of that place that still exists today.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 8: It's like crazy hal anyway, Yeah, so now we're just
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 8: rambling about weird Virginia still.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 4: Interesting, blazzuh did anybody want to anybody have anything to
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 4: add that all the stuff that you just said before.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna start looking into seeing what kind of cults
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 6: are out there now.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna start digging into.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 6: I don't want to see if the religious backgrounds on
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 6: them and stuff like that.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: So that has me interested.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 8: The Zeus turned into a swan and banged Lada.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: Somebody put that in here. Yeah, yeah, Well I would
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: give your listeners maybe some homework because I told Ernie
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: about this when when we first did the Knights of
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: the Golden Horseshoe podcast. I read I swear I read
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: this at some point and I could not I couldn't
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: dig it up and find it, but that there was
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: a link to between the Knights of the Golden Horseshoe
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: and the Knights of the Golden Circle, which, well, the
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: Knights of the gold ended up being a very different thing,
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: but there was a there was a connection I read
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: about at some point that the Knights of the Golden Circle.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 8: There was a book written about the Knights of the
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 8: Golden Horseshoe in the eighteen hundreds before the Nights, right
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 8: before the Knights of the Golden Circle became a thing,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 8: and I think between masonry and the imagery of the
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 8: Knights of the Golden Horseshoe. His name was Captain Bickle,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 8: was the guy who started the Knights of the Golden Circle. Yeah,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 8: it started down here in Texas.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 7: And it's also linked to John Wilkes Booth in the
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 7: assassination of Abraham Lincoln.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: But there was some because a lot of times people
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: get the two mixed up. Yeah, but there is actually
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: I read about it at some point. There's a connection
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: or something. So if anybody can find that and pass
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: it along to us, that'd be great because I'd love
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: to know where I read that before and then get
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: it back and do some digging on that.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 8: Well. I think we did it.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh no, definitely, definitely.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: Uh one thing I do want to leave if you,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 4: if you do, like seriously, have a look into that
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati stuff. I really do suggest looking into the French
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: French area because I remember I had a book.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to do. I supposed to do something
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: like on that topic, and I had notes and I
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: never got to use them, but I did have stuff.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 4: I don't I think I rased it whatever. I found
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 4: stuff with like a lot of not a lot, but
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 4: enough people from France. But there's enough, you know that
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 4: I found interesting and I you hear a lot about it,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 4: and it's always like, you know, with them coming over here.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: You know, some of the French ones did, but it's
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 4: just like they there's more I think to be looked
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: at with them right now, not saying like, you know,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 4: not paying attention what's going on in the United States
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: with them isn't important, it says, I think that side
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 4: of it seems to get left out.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 8: Well, I think our connections to France are just.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: I think it's a lot huge. I mean, I think
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: that's a lot bigger than most people think too it.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 8: I think it's a lot bigger than hell. Yeah, I
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 8: mean we all know that they're involvement in the Revolution,
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 8: helping us out and whatnot. But you know, again, Thomas
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 8: Jefferson is one of my favorite slash most hated figures
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 8: in Virginia history. But he you know, a lot of
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 8: our early like our Founding Fathers really kind of fetishize
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 8: the French, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and it was kind
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 8: of a love hate thing because then there was the
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 8: other half of the Founding Fathers who were like, I
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 8: don't want anything to do with the French, but I
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 8: think we took a lot of I mean, the French
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 8: Enlightenment and stuff like that. We took a lot of
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 8: ideals from them, and I think them from us.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: There's a great book out there called The Ideological Origins
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: of the American Revolution, and it's all about that.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 8: Really there you go leave it to the master's degree.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, all right, Well, Julie, you got did you
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 4: have anything you wanted to ask rid.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: Or you're good?
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: Well, I feel bad that I wasn't able to add
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 5: more to this one. It kind of felt like I
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 5: was going through the real life history of like National
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 5: Treasure and yeah, National Treasure, Book of Secrets. You know,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 5: both of those have a lot of stuff that the
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 5: second one talks a lot about Albert Pike and like
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 5: a bunch of weird stuff, so it kind of felt
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 5: like I was going through the real life version of that.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 5: But no, super interesting.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 8: Thanks.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 5: I haven't looked into the bloodlines as much as you
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 5: guys have, obviously, but I do find it highly fascinating.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 8: It can be it can be overwhelming, because I mean,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 8: just looking at that short history of connecting the Mayra
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 8: of Engians all the way down to like the Jacobites,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 8: it's crazy overwhelming, and so people mostly they focus on
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 8: on just the Mayra of Engians, or just the Charlemagne folks,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 8: or just the Stewarts, and they'll they'll they'll talk about it.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 8: And it's even hard to find the connections when you're
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 8: when you're researching it because all of those individual you know,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 8: dynasties are such so huge and there's so much information
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 8: there and so much hidden information there that it's hard
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 8: to look at them all as a as a whole,
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 8: especially for me.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 5: I'm a dumb dumb yeah, no, I mean, the information
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 5: is dance. And the one that I do always talk
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 5: about is Megan Markle because she's a descendant from Robert
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 5: the Bruce and there's a lot of weird stuff with
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 5: Robert the Bruce and the arc of the Covenant actually,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 5: which is a whole nother episode that you know I
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 5: could talk about.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was from Scotland and they that's where they
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 8: you know, I don't know, inaugurate their kings and queens
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 8: sitting on top of that that rock.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 5: I mean there's a lot and I know like the
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 5: periphery of it, but I never like sat down and
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 5: went down the line something that I.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: Probably people don't because their eyes glaze over. But Ernie
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: somehow is like managed to try to trace the family
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: tree of so many people. It's quite fascinating to me
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: because I don't have the patience for it.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 5: But that's fine, all right, A lot of people do.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 8: I wish it translated to like, you know, cash or something.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: You solved the puzzle, you win a prize, right right.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 5: But it was a super fascinating episode. I enjoyed it.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but thanks for having us, yea, thank you so much.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, let everybody, I guess, plug this stuff and
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 4: we'll wrap it up, Julia.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: Let everybody know what they can find. Well, you're amazing work.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 5: Thanks Nick. Yeah, so I have Cosmic Peach podcasts wherever
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 5: you listen to podcasts, and uh, you know, and Occult
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 5: reject whenever Nick will have me on, So thank you.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: Thanks of course, thank you very much.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 4: Julia always appreciate you. Tyrone, what is up my man?
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 4: Please let everybody know if I can find you.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 6: Just like Julia said, thanks for having me. You know,
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 6: you let me be part of the cole Rejects. You
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 6: told me that today, so I appreciate that.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 6: Everything that you want to read about me or find
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 6: out about me is on my website, rebirth atwork dot com.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 6: I also have a book on Amazon, Journey through the
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 6: Origins of History, so yeah, check it out.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: And thanks again Nick, appreciate it.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, thank you.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you telling them and fear if you want
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 4: to try to mute yourself and.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe get out of Goodbye that might work. Well. Thank you.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 7: I appreciate that, and thank you for having me on
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 7: here again. And I'm going to work on my connection
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 7: trying to figure this shit out. But for now, what
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 7: I got in the making is, like I said, rocks,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 7: ruins and recipes, and I'm currently working on the cookbook,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 7: So bolo on that, be on the lookout and you
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 7: can find me on Twitter and Twitter handles right there
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 7: on the screen. Other than that, yeah, I'm just going
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 7: to be reading in the reading my books in the background.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you again, thank you again.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 4: Sorry about connection, bro, I feel really bad. But hopefully
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 4: next time when you're on it will be a better connection.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 3: Uh. And Daniel, Daniel, what is going on? So let
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: everybody know what's up.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: You can't find me too many places online these days,
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: but I will be playing for the Indianapolis Colts this
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: year when the season starts. You know now that I've
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: left New York. Yeah, so you can find me wherever.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: Ernie says, you can find us.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 8: That's Daniel Jones Photo. He's a super talented photographer, super talented.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 8: And then again, Virginia is for conspiracy lovers, and just
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 8: try all forms of that and you know VA con Lovers,
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 8: Virginia con Lovers podcasts, different variations you'll find that's probably.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 4: Awesome. Well, I really appreciate both of you. That was
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 4: an awesome show, just like last time, the images was great.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 4: Like I'm really glad that that you did bring that
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: back like I even said, for people who might rehear it,
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 4: you just went a lot more into it with the visuals.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 4: So even the audio people, I still think you're gonna
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 4: hear a lot more than you left out, you know,
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 4: for last time. So I do appreciate that, and everybody
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 4: in the chat that's what's up. I saw a lot
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 4: of returning people, a lot of that from the beginning
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 4: to the end. Saw some people I haven't seen in
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 4: a while pop back up. That's what's up. Nice to
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 4: see you come back again. Uh yeah, thank you all
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 4: for coming on. I really appreciate you. Won't making the
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 4: time and until the next one, everybody.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 9: Be well, data, thank you, good night, close your eyes,
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 9: look into the darkness, find the blazing story, focus on.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe called the eclipse. Don't feel.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 3: That the show will be done?
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: And does
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: You the shap