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JRE MMA Show #184 with Aljamain Sterling · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Check it out, Joe Logan Experience, shrain My Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Remember what's what the gold? What's going on? Give me
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  Speaker 1: a smile? Oh you gotta top and bottom? Man? What
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  Speaker 1: did you do is amazing. I've always wanted to have
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  Speaker 1: money so I could get one of these when I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid going up? Now, was that one of
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  Speaker 1: the ones that you could take out or is it? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: That's good because that's such a commitment. You know, one
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  Speaker 1: day you got to go to the White House. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you got diamonds and gold in your teeth. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It might be your first time. You know. How does
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  Speaker 1: it fit? It's like like a retainer. Yeah, so they
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  Speaker 1: fit it, they mold it.
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  Speaker 3: I got it done in Dallas actually, and they just
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  Speaker 3: fit it, mould to your teeth and then.
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  Speaker 1: Pop them in. It's almost like we're in a retainer.
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  Speaker 3: Texas loves grills.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they love grills. We gotta give him show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulna hook us up, just going hah yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure. I just I remember what was the one
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  Speaker 3: episode with THEO and you asked about the headphones and
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  Speaker 3: he was he said something like a it's like sitting
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  Speaker 3: there with the with the with the condom and uh
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  Speaker 3: and she's just looking at you or I forget exactly
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  Speaker 3: how the joke goes, but it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was funny.
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  Speaker 3: It's like one of theo Van's greatest moments where he
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  Speaker 3: says all these things. He was like when I when
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  Speaker 3: I feel like saying it, I just write it down.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this clip, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's I mean, I'm sure I was there when it happened,
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  Speaker 1: but he says so many ridiculous things I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: over here.
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  Speaker 3: How does he put it on?
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  Speaker 1: I felt like alone here headphone? It is weird.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you put a condom on it and
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  Speaker 3: the other person is just still looking at their phone
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  Speaker 3: like this is weird.
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  Speaker 1: And the person I mean is a woman to tell yeah, well.
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  Speaker 3: Yes there is. Yeah, that's why we said that the
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  Speaker 3: headphone was that. I just that just came to my head, like.
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  Speaker 1: Immediately, yeah. I sometimes I have him off, sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: have him on, but it's better to have him on.
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  Speaker 1: It locks it locks you in, you know, I feel that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch the UFC this past weekend, the Apex.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the main event comin Bro the main event.
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  Speaker 1: Soul killed is legit. I wasn't too sure about him,
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  Speaker 1: but now I'm very sure. As a man who has
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  Speaker 1: one of the best back controls in the sport, you
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  Speaker 1: you had to appreciate that back control.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing. And he took him down, which I
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  Speaker 3: was kind of surprised. I was like, why is he
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  Speaker 3: going for to take down crazy proving a point?
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  Speaker 1: Proving a point because the stand up is so sick too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that guy is so complete man, and do that to Gamrock.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. He's a sick grappler
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  Speaker 3: in his own right. I thought he was going to
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  Speaker 3: get out that one, that one moment where he had
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  Speaker 3: the leg uh hiked up, had the angle and all
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  Speaker 3: he had to do was swimming, But he kept it
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  Speaker 3: too long, allowed him to hit the ground and he
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  Speaker 3: was able to readjust and locking that figured four and
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  Speaker 3: it was over well.
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  Speaker 1: When he reached over and grabbed the far arm and
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  Speaker 1: used that to hang on to the back. Yes, that
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  Speaker 1: is slick. Yes, that was slick. He was. He was
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  Speaker 1: fucking slick man, and just just very high level. Everything
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  Speaker 1: was like like an elevated level. I was. I had
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  Speaker 1: a very high opinion of him before the fight. But
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  Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh, this dude could do it. He knows,
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  Speaker 1: he knows.
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  Speaker 3: Bull. Yeah, I was really surprised with that and the
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  Speaker 3: fact that it went so quick. All his fights have
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  Speaker 3: been in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Then these scrambles, these scrambles from this position. Now, generally
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  Speaker 1: in this position, it's so hard to keep back control.
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  Speaker 1: Right here, grabbing the arm and this adjustment.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, that's that's really skillful as a seatbelt. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: the way he's able to adjust it. Gamros trying everything,
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  Speaker 3: but once he gets to that position, it's over. You're back.
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  Speaker 3: You're back in his uh backpack, and he's got a
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  Speaker 3: lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: Man. He's all real tall for the weight class, a
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  Speaker 1: huge over six feet tall, long, excellent reach, excellent strike.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that he did that was really slick.
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  Speaker 1: He pretended to get up off of his back. So
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  Speaker 1: Gamrod explodes and he exposes his neck right there. Watch
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  Speaker 1: that back that up just to touch what look at that?
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  Speaker 1: This is so slick like. Look, he's hanging on his back.
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  Speaker 1: They're struggling, and he said, let me just sit up,
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  Speaker 1: and he'll sit up bam right there. That's so nasty.
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  Speaker 1: Slick as fuck. Man, that's so slick. That's such a
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  Speaker 1: good sneaky move because the guy's like, oh, now's my
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  Speaker 1: time to you know, those moments where you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you can move like he got he you give you
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  Speaker 1: some space like I'm gonna go and then.
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  Speaker 3: Plot I'm anytime I'm entraining and someone has my back,
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  Speaker 3: I always try to make sure I'm always aware of
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  Speaker 3: the choke. Matts always says, always protect the choke first,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the main thing. I always try to focus
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  Speaker 3: on protect the choke first before you start doing anything else.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy because.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, he just takes that
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  Speaker 3: little split second to get under the neck and that
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  Speaker 3: could be the fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like sometimes people just get they they they
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  Speaker 1: get a little too urgent, you know, they get a
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  Speaker 1: little too they just want to make something happen without
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  Speaker 1: just being safe all the time. Always be safe. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the in gamrat situation right there, that was the
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  Speaker 1: moment because who knows if he could have made it
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  Speaker 1: out of that position and survived all those choke attempts
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  Speaker 1: and got to the next round, who knows, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And if he got on top, who knows? And soul killed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you presume he has great endurance. You presume,
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  Speaker 1: but we really don't know yet.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't. No, it's a wild unknown about him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm just like, I don't know how good he
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  Speaker 3: actually is, but I can tell you what first round.
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  Speaker 1: He's a motherfucker's a motherfucker guy. It's interesting like these
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  Speaker 1: guys that are that have the unknowns, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: some guys get really fought, like Tom Aspinall becomes heavyweight
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  Speaker 1: champion of the world, and it's kind of an unknown
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  Speaker 1: whether he can fight in the fourth and fifth rounds.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of crazy, right, We just though he's a blitzer.
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  Speaker 1: We know he's big and fast, but we really rarely
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  Speaker 1: see him get out of the first round. Yeah, kind
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  Speaker 1: of nuts.
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  Speaker 3: It's a it's a gift in a curse, right, that's
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  Speaker 3: a good way to put it. Because you get both
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  Speaker 3: your paychecks. You get done really really early. But then
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  Speaker 3: if you get into the you know, you run into
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  Speaker 3: the wrong one and the fight starts to get tough.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know if you can actually push that envelope.
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  Speaker 3: That's different.
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  Speaker 1: That is the most bullshit part of the UFCA. You
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  Speaker 1: get both your paychecks. Fuck off, fuck off with that.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it. That drives me nuts.
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  Speaker 3: I know the boss, we could talk to him, He's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Said the other times already it should be you get
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  Speaker 1: paid what you get paid. It shouldn't be. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: if judges were perfect every time, maybe you could make
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  Speaker 1: an argument for that. But I still don't think you
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  Speaker 1: should make an argument for that because I think guys
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  Speaker 1: fight as hard as they can to win. There's no
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  Speaker 1: one who's fighting harder because you think you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get a win bonus. You know you're fighting as hard
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  Speaker 1: as you possibly can. Yeah, at the highest level, And
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  Speaker 1: so you're not incentivizing people to fight harder. You're just
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  Speaker 1: you're you're giving too much of their career, too much
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  Speaker 1: of their future, too much of their their actual how
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  Speaker 1: they gonna feed their family, to the whims of people
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  Speaker 1: that sometimes get it wrong.
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  Speaker 3: One I do remember one incident where I was situation
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  Speaker 3: I should say where I was going to fight harder,
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  Speaker 3: and that was you'll see three hundred against Calvuncator when
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  Speaker 3: data announced the bonuses were going to be three hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 1: And I got super pumped up.
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  Speaker 3: And everyone always points to it, They go, you got
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  Speaker 3: so excited and you went there and you felt like that,
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  Speaker 3: I go, listen, it takes two to tango. If he
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  Speaker 3: wants to sit there and hold me, it's not much
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  Speaker 3: I could do. I can't really just fight.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about it. I was like, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: out there and just start.
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  Speaker 3: Swinging for the fences and take them down and maybe
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  Speaker 3: get a crazy finish. And it didn't go that way,
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  Speaker 3: but well, I tried, I thought about it. Guys cancel
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  Speaker 3: each other out too. Yeah, that's the thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when people want exciting fights. Everybody wants exciting fights, of course,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but there is a reality to skillful guys
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  Speaker 3: going after each other and then sometimes they'll cancel each
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  Speaker 3: other out and make a boring fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this shit happens.
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  Speaker 3: It really does. There's there's no rhyme or reason either.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who is it like Francis Lewis. Francis Lewis,
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  Speaker 3: for instance, and Ghanu and derekar Lewis.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, one of the worst fights of all time.
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  Speaker 1: But we all thought that was going to be just
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  Speaker 1: a quick fight. Someone madness, madness and guaranteed madness, two
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest knockout artists in the history the heavyweight.
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  Speaker 3: Division an exact opposite.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing happened, but it was hell.
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  Speaker 3: These fights happened, and then the fans get on you
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  Speaker 3: about Hi'm like, listen, you go take a punch from
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  Speaker 3: that guy.
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  Speaker 1: That guy is gonna send my consciousness to a whole
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  Speaker 1: different universe. Well, you had Francis coming off the loss
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  Speaker 1: to steep A, and I think he was a little
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  Speaker 1: rattled mentally. And then you had Derek who realizes like
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  Speaker 1: he's looking for his one big shot and he's not
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  Speaker 1: willing to wade in and get clipped, and so he's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wait to play the role the counter striker,
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  Speaker 1: and then no one does nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Colors Sposa and Rose units worst fight in history.
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  Speaker 1: Arguably, it's I think it might be worse because I
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  Speaker 1: think that was five rounds. We went through five rounds
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  Speaker 1: of that ship. That was worse than Derek Lewis and
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  Speaker 1: Francis and Ghana would have been the worst because of expectations,
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  Speaker 1: but it was only three rounds. Yeah, this was five
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  Speaker 1: rounds of what the fuck is going on? And it's
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  Speaker 1: not a knock on the fighters, of course not. There's
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  Speaker 1: two the greatest fly flyweights right now it's two of
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  Speaker 1: the greatest strawweights of all time. I mean Rose namba
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  Speaker 1: Unis when she knocked out Jeang Wei Lee with that
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  Speaker 1: fucking head kick, Holy shit, when she when when she
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  Speaker 1: uh starts Juanna hit her with that left hook and
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  Speaker 1: took her out. Like dude, Rose is a beast man,
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  Speaker 1: She's a beast at one of the absolute most exciting
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  Speaker 1: fighters champions of all time in those those those particular exchanges,
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  Speaker 1: Like some of the fights that she's had, they've been amazing,
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  Speaker 1: amazing fights, but that just fights. That fight sucked for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason. It happens. Just happens.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes can't explain it, but sometimes you just feel something
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  Speaker 3: when you're in there. You're just kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go, and they're like, well I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to go. If you're not going to go,
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  Speaker 3: then it's just.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on in that fight.
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  Speaker 1: It was very strange. But I also think there's a
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  Speaker 1: time when you've been in so many wars, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've been you've had so many wars, that your your
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  Speaker 1: willingness to exchange is different, your your your drive to
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  Speaker 1: attack is different. It's not there anymore, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: some especially people who fight in wars, and Rose has
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  Speaker 1: been in some wars.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I fight the way I fight now
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  Speaker 3: so differently because those wars that I had leading up
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  Speaker 3: to where I'm at, I mean, I had that barn
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  Speaker 3: burning with all these other guys on the way to
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  Speaker 3: the title, and I had to change it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta stay alive to fight smart. My fights
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  Speaker 1: are not barn birds like that, No, but they're different.
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  Speaker 1: Your fights are are the best ex you have the
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  Speaker 1: best back control. I think I've ever seen this sport.
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  Speaker 1: There's when you get on someone's back. I'm like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: this is getting crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did want to say I appreciate because I
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  Speaker 3: do hear the episodes where you guys talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, to control nuts.
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  Speaker 1: The Sanhagan fight is nuts when you know how good
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  Speaker 1: Sandhagen is and you just got that back and that
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  Speaker 1: was ninety night. It was so slick. You've done that
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  Speaker 1: to so many dudes too, and you could see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like obviously redemption for you was the second Peotyon fight.
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  Speaker 1: That was redemption cool. I remember you came in right afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: was like, everybody's gotta shut the fuck up. Now they
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  Speaker 1: got to shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 3: It was just split to say that goes shut up,
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  Speaker 3: shut up?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah please, yeah you you You really showed everybody in
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  Speaker 1: that second fight. The first fight was just nonsense. The
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  Speaker 1: first fight was just that kind of a move to
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  Speaker 1: hit someone when they're down on one knee like that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? Man? It was a
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  Speaker 1: rough time crazy and then you having already had a
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  Speaker 1: bulging disk in your neck, your neck was already fucked.
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  Speaker 1: It's also kind of crazy that you could compete at
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  Speaker 1: the level that you compete at with a fake disk
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  Speaker 1: in your neck. Yeah, do you ever think about that thing?
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  Speaker 3: I still have like nerve damage in my trice up
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  Speaker 3: from it. Like if I do like a pilate or
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  Speaker 3: just a plank, you'll see it.
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  Speaker 1: Just decide shaking. It's so badow.
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  Speaker 3: Even till this day, it's a lot better than what
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  Speaker 3: it was before. But this is what people don't understand
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  Speaker 3: that some of these fighters us, like we go through
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  Speaker 3: a lot just to make it, and you're gonna hear
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  Speaker 3: the other side of it when no one told you
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  Speaker 3: to do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even about that.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like we're trying our best to chase something great,
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  Speaker 3: something that's crazy in the sense of the word. You're right,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you put your body through hell to get there.
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  Speaker 3: And I just I know there's great fans out there
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  Speaker 3: who appreciate that, and just the other ones who are
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  Speaker 3: more casual and they don't really understand. But I wish
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  Speaker 3: they took the time just to train, to do a
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  Speaker 3: week of training and understand what we put our bodies
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  Speaker 3: through day in at a high level against other high
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  Speaker 3: level guys.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, you need the casuals. You need everybody to buy tickets.
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  Speaker 1: It's all great, but the reality of the casuals all
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  Speaker 1: you haters, you are doing yourself a disservice too. You're
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  Speaker 1: saying ridiculous shit. You're acting like a fucking retard. What
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  Speaker 1: you really should do is do better in your own life,
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  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be a hater because almost all haters
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  Speaker 1: are losers, one hundred percent of them, and the people
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  Speaker 1: they're hating on are doing way better than them. And
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: there's legitimate criticism, but legitimate criticism can be handled respectfully,
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  Speaker 1: and the people that don't handle legitimate the people that
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: don't dish out legitimate criticism respectfully it's because they haven't
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  Speaker 1: been smacked, right, yeah, or they haven't been smacked by
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  Speaker 1: the guy they're talking shit about.
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  Speaker 3: It, yeah, or do they see them and then they
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  Speaker 3: change their tune real quick.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, So weird people are so crazy They talk
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  Speaker 1: about literally professional fighters and call them pussies.
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's so delusional. One guy said, I'll fold
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  Speaker 3: you in half like recently, because I don't.
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  Speaker 1: But they're just trying to fuck with your head. They
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  Speaker 1: don't even believe that they're trying to get a rise
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  Speaker 1: out of al Jamain Sterling. They can get a rise
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  Speaker 1: out of a UFC champion, you know how when they're
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  Speaker 1: sixteen years old jerking off cheetos all over their fingers.
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  Speaker 1: You know how exciting that must be to have direct
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  Speaker 1: contact with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I try. I try not to engage
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  Speaker 3: as much as I used to, because before I would
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  Speaker 3: I think we talked about it. Before I would engage
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  Speaker 3: and go back and forth, and I kind of got
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  Speaker 3: away from it. But the old version of me would
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  Speaker 3: like to just say all kinds of crazy shape.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm I'm, you know, a little bit more mature now.
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  Speaker 1: There's no benefit in it, and it wastes energy, that's
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  Speaker 1: the problem, and then it also wastes your You get distracted.
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  Speaker 1: What did he say back? I can see what this
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  Speaker 1: motherfucker responds to. I'm gonna get him again. I do check,
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  Speaker 1: I do check. You saved a bunch of pictures him
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  Speaker 1: from the Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: Let me see your acid person in real life before
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  Speaker 3: he deletes it.
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  Speaker 1: Let me screenshot these. Uh yeah, there's people are people,
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  Speaker 1: so again, yeah, people are people, man. And I would
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  Speaker 1: have done the fucking same thing. If I was fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years old and somebody gave me an Instagram account and
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  Speaker 1: I could talk shit to whoever, I would talk shit
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  Speaker 1: to everybody, whoever it was. I'm trying to think if
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  Speaker 1: I was like that. I don't know if I was
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: ever like that. Does it didn't exists when you were
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: a kid, that the access didn't exist. If that access existed,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I guarantee if you and your friends, like Brodrick's talking
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: shit with me, you and Drake are going back and forth.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: You're like, fuck you pussy, of course you would do it.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody would do it. I would do it one hundred percent.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I guess it's just human needs.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: But I think that when you get to the level
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that you're at a literal world champion and a professional
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: fighter of the highest caliber. That's you do yourself a
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: disservice you do. Like I love Sean Strickland. He's crazy
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: as fuck, but he gets in there with everybody all
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the time. He gets in there all day long, talking
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: ship with people. He gets in there, but it's somehow
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: another doesn't distract him. I wouldn't give him the same advice.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Something's fucked up about his brain that like, for him
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to be in that kind of conflict all day doesn't
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: seem to bother him at all.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I think it fuels him. There's like I want to
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: keep going more like driving Broke. Goggins plays a recording
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: of all this shit that all of his haters have
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: said to him while he runs. I wouldn't do that,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying, Like, there's people that
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: are wired different, and they think Sean is very very
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: much wired different and whatever for whatever reason. You know, Yeah,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: sometimes I always, but I like it. I like that
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: he should have a segment that like how Ray Longo has,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: like the Ray Longo minute, he should have like a
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Strickling minute.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I was telling him, you know, we were talking
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: when he was out here. He went to ways To
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: as well to get his shoulder worked on after the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Hamzad victory, and I was saying, you could do a podcast.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: It would be hilarious, it would be great, you could
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: have guests on, you could do whatever the fuck you want,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Like you have a real future outside the sport, like once.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And he's also very smart with his money. As crazy
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: as that dude is, he saved a ton of money.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: He gives great investment advice on Twitter, Like he gives
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: investment advice. She's like, he wait, who the fuck is this?
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: This is the same guy he's telling you how to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: invest your money. You know, SMP and all this shit,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and like, oh what.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: He's not as crazy as he comes off. He's a lot.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Smarter than people give him credit for it. But he
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: uses that as like it tricks you, and it tricks
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you into thinking that he's like a silly person.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, But he'll say whatever
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: comes to mind, Yeah that's him.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: But the fucker can fight. Yeah, And at the end
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of the day, that's the thing. That dude can fight, Like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: he can fight, and he fights in a weird way
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like his very weird style, like nobody has that style.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, do you have a lighter?
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Yes? And of course, what do you want some cigars?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I got some? Oh, ship, how your man brings gifts.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Let's go, we bring gifts. These are fighter cigars too,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Fighter cigars. Yeah, I'm like Paulson, So.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: It's different fighter lines. I know you got a foundation.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: If I could have an openness, I think it's so
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: cold now they use my my fighting muscles. Fuck it up.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It is about I might you might? You get the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: beer claws. It's weird. I broke it. I broke the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I broke that too. What the fuck is supposed to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just pull open? Should I opened it this morning? That's weird.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Did something happen to it got cold? I got a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: knife in here. Somewhere were some big gass knives that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: used to be here, Jamie, Yeah, why oh when the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Device president was here, Lucky, I always carry one. If
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: we can't get these open, algamen, bro this is like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: chromatically sealed.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: There, we got it, so we got different ones. You
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: got a jud Doebern there you got a funk Master,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: which I think that's the funk Master.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you like like light or dark.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I like them all. This is you.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: We got to smoke yours triumph cigars. So who's who's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: making this? Where they making them out of? Uh? So
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: he gets them from different places on the back of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that too, sick. He gets them from different places like Cuba. Cuba. Really,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I believe it's Cuban because Cuban cigars are hard. No, no, no,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they're not really bad to pop the top if you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: do you know how to smoke cigars on?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Give? That's the clipper. This is high this is high
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: level ship calibris, a lot of a lot of fake
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Cuban cigars. You got one one and then top. There
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: So they got like maduros and different kinds. I'm like,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: new into cigars.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And he's a the funk Master that might be dead here.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this one good, This one's good. Jamie smoke cigars. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Jamie's strictly blunts. But now he's got to stop because
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: he does want to be a feller. He's got a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: cross state lines gotta go to Oklahoma and get high.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Do you actually want one today?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He takes a flight southwest of Oklahoma, gets some bong
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: rips and hops back on the place. This is good.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: This is very good.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: So the feedback on them has been great. They're good
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: quality cigars. They make it from like people that make them,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: and they get them to make our own different like
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: lines of these pretty cool. Mmm?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I like them.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: We used to perform at Miami. There was a place
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that you could go. We could wash the hand roll
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: cigars and they'd sell you cigars like hand rolled. It
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: was pretty dope. You watch these ladies like roll everything out.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: They get that long knife and they slice it up
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and you rolled yourself? Have you? No? No, no, no no.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: They told us how to roll down in Miami.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it. I don't want to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: do brain surgery. Get an expert. Somebody's gotta be good
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: at this. You got a rum line too, right?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: M hm?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Is that it funk harbor on your neck? One car?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: But baby's I got money now, joke. You know that's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a bitch. I got money now.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to bring my sharp because I don't
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: know if you wanted to like signed or whatever, but sure,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: but we wants and things like that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Multiple medals. There's metals for like compa your RUMs.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got two double goals for this. We got
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: two double goals for the silver. Maimy can get us
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: some ice cubes and some glasses.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Let's fucking party, al Jamaine. Then we're gonna go to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the mother shit. I love that name, by the way,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, we were trying to figure out what
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to call it. We had a bunch of different you
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: know Mitzi Shore, that lady who ran the comedy store, yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: painting up there, that's her. She was the owner and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: founder of the comedy store. She used to say about
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the comedians, the inmates are running the asylum. So we
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: were gonna call it the asylum. But I thought that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sounds corny, a little corny, or's something about it. It's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: like a little like, oh, we're crazy, you know. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: then I thought, well, what is this one of the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: things that Ron White, he was the first route. Ron
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: White was the first guy to move here. And you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I knew Ron real well from La and Ron said,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I love it. It's in the middle of
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the country. You could fly out. You want one, it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: got work to do. It won't get hammered with us.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: It was in the middle of the country, can fly out.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It's only like three hours New York, three hours Ala.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It's perfect. And I was like, well, that would be
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like the mothership and then you could fly out all
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: your all your ships could fly to different parts of
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the company. That would be your base. The mothership would
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: be the base. That's pretty cool.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Plus obviously I'm alien, That's what I thought it was.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm obsessed for whatever reason. Which one
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: darker light? What's the difference?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: So this one's our limited edition. It's got the number
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: one on it. We're gonna be coming out with some
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: different ones. We're actually going through a rebrand right now.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: This was Age two to five years, but they're all
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Jamaican origin. This one's Age under the Tropical Sun. On
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Age as a silver.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: We'll bust out that Age under the Tropical Sun and.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: This one we use expurban cast. So drink's really nice
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: if you like bourbon. Oh it's a little bit. It's like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I don't say sweet, but it's not as harsh when
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you drink it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Are you a rum guy. Is that your thing? Is
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that why you start a rump company? Yes, you've always
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: been a rum guy.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: My parents are from Jamaica, so I want My parents
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: are from Italy.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: But I hate Grappa. That's it's nasty. Granpa's not nasty.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: That stuff's nasty. I'm gonna take the big one, all right,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: cheers sir. What do you guys say? Salute salo?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I think you guys said something else in Italy.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just got back. I was just there last week. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It's awesome. I love it there. We still haven't gone.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: We want to go so bad, bro, if you want
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to eat, that's the place Pasta. Everybody talking about it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I would love to do that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I gained three pounds. I ate nothing but carbs. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: ate so much food. I ate till I was hurting
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: every night. I was like, I'm gonna ignore my diet completely.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I worked out every day, but I was like, I'm
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: gonna ignore my diet completely and just ea eat for pleasure.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: But it's not as bad though, it's not as bad
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: for you. The food is not as bad. But wait,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: calories of calories stow.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But it's just the volume. I'm a glutton. I ate
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: two pizzas, I ate linguini with clams. I had a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: barrata and tomatoes, and I also had what else does
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I have something? Oh, a bunch of pieces of bread
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I hate so much in one setting. Then I got
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: home that night when we sat back, and I was like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I can't move. I've eaten myself to a place where
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you ever see one of those lions that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: eats too much? They just line? I felt, Jesse.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Those were those were my one thirty five days. As
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: soon as the fight's over, I'm going in.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I remember one time I ran into you at the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: APEX and I was like, what do you weigh? And
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you said one seventy six. I was like, that's crazy, Yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you gotta lose forty pounds, that's crazy.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: The fascinating part is when I went up to forty five,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I got down and I was lighter in my natural
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: walking around weight. You still eating the same way I
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: always did, and I was walking around about one hundred
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: and sixty eight sometimes sixty six to about one seventy two,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, this is doesn't even make any sense.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: How much lighter I am from one point thirty five,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: and it's just.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Less anxiety about making the weight that too, your body
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: didn't hold on to it as much.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the body kind of just recognizes what's happening, like, oh,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: A nicer weight cut. Yeah, you're healthy now. Yeah, even
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: though it was still a weightcut.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, but I just checked my weight
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: last week when I got well, actually two days ago,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: when I got back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: From me Gains. You're at least one seventy I'm heavier
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: than that. One seventy five. North was seventy eight. That's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: when I checked, and I didn't look fat. I was like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. It's happening again.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: It's happening to over.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That's people that don't understand it, Like I have to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: explain to my normy friends, but they're like, Hosey lose
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: all that weight. He doesn't have anything to lose. I'm like, well,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you're sucking your muscles dry and that's what's crazy. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: your organs that's what's really dark. Oh it's dark, dude,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: it's dark. It's the worst part about fighting. I still
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: think same day weighns well, same day WAYNS would change
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a lot, But also guys would get really hurt because
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: people are still going to lose the weight. They're still
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: going to do it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: But I think that's going to be a like a phase,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: like people are going to realize how stupid this is.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: They go, oh, I actually feel better just competing at
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: my weight.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Perhaps, but I think you would have to have multiple
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: weight classes added, many weight classes added. There's too many
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: gaps that are too ridiculous.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: If the fifteen pound gap would be the most challenging,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: from fifty five to seventy.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Eighty five to two oh five, eighty five to two
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: oh five is crazy, twenty pounds is crazy.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I always thought there should be an in between for
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: that one.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: There should be every ten pounds. Every ten pounds is smart,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you know, go one twenty five, thirty five, forty five,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: fifty five, sixty low up the ones that are you know,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: like when you get to seventy, make seventy seventy five.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You know, eighty five is already there. Make a ninety five,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: make a two oh five, and then it gets weird.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: With heavyweight, I think you might want to have like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a bridger weight, like a two twenty two, twenty five
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and then giant fellas, and then after that it should
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be as big as the fucking he want to be,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: because that's the weird thing, is like heavyweight's limited. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: remember Tim Sylvia when Tim Sylvia was saucy. There was
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a time when Tim Sylvia was big. He was a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: big fella, and he was cutting weight to make two
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: sixty five hardcore. He was barely making it. He was
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: so big back then. Man like, man, he's gigantic. Yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And that was when he was fucking sick and he uh.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I remember watching him struggle to make the two sixty five.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's crazy. Why are you making the heavyweights
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: cut weight? That doesn't make any sense. It takes away
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: from what heavyweight actually. Yeah, the biggest, baddest motherfucker alive. Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You know when Mike Tice was fucking everybody else peop
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: lay two twenty.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I don won't say small, let me not say small
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: heavyweight he was.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter. Came when Kane was
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: fucking everybody up. He was two forty. He was late too.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Fad Or same thing. He was never real big. Fad
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Or was fairly small compared to a lot of other
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: heatherways heavyweights.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: But then you got a guy like a Rosa Bellis dispend.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy. He's huge seven feet all. He's gigantic huge.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That guy is that range is nuts. He's like the
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: modern day in the end of THO. Like he's an Amazonian.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: He's a giant, a literal giant.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: He's one of those guys where when I saw that
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: fight that that MVP did with him and Junior Dosanto's,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I said, please don't do that fight that that fight's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: not right. That's that's one of those fights. Really, that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: fight's not right. Yeah, this is just too much of
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: a changing in the guard. There's one guy who is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: coming off of karate combat. First of all, if one thing,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: if Junior was a wrestler, if Junior was a sick wrestler,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, oh, you know, maybe he's gonna take
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: him ground and pound. This This is kind of even
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: though he's older, he's been knocked out a bunch of times,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: he's still very dangerous. But you know, Junior had seen
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: his best days back when he knocked out Kane, which
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: was like, what year was that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen? Twenty fifteen wasn't even I got signed at
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. I don't think I remember Kane, not Kane,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: So it's the big It was.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: The big Fox card. It was the first car on
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Fox because I remember they made Caine fight with a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: blown out knee, or they encouraged him to fight with
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a blown out mee. Kane's knee was fucked before that fight,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and Junior caught him with that perfect right hand. Well
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Okay, that's his debut, right, No, that's that fight.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: That's the fight where he knocked out Kane Balaskaz. Oh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that's the second one. What's the one where he beat Kane?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Is right before that? Uh no, right before that he
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: got some Yeah, the Fox won twenty eleven. Okay, so
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: fifteen years of Wars, Yeah, fifteen years of the steep
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Amiotic fight, which was horrible to watch, right, that was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a brutal, brutal fight, and then you have the second
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Cane fight, which was horrible to watch. And then I
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: think there was a third Cane fight too, correct JDS Yes, yeh,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: which was also horrible to watch.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: You know, it's at the two tough fights back to back.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Bro. If you don't take Caane out in that first
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: round that storm never ends. Yeah, never ends. You're like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna ride this storm out.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: No, there was no ride.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Prime Caine was a motherfucker dude.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I man when I've always been conflicted with him in
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: DC because it kind of reminded me of a morob
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: and I and I always said, like, if DC stayed
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: at a heavyweight, he could have arguably potentially have been
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the greatest heavyweight of all time. But I do know
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: DC always says in the training room, Kane was the
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: man who was the guy.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he told me he always Kane beat his out.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: DC should have been a middleweight. How about that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know that guy's making middleweight.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Disciplined DC, him and his chicken. DC went to Dagastad.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: If DC went to Dagostad.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: For three years, he's not gonna forget.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fun to get three years if he If DC
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: made midleweight, and he could have made middleweight, a lot
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of guys who are way leaner than him have made
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that weight.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So I saw him at my UC debut UC one
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: seventy at Mandalay Bay in the back room cutting weight,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: doing the workouts, and he looked like he was dying
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: just to make.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Two oh five. True, So I don't know how he
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: would have done it. Well, he would have had to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: change his diet. No more Popeyes, yeah, no more nothing,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: no more garbage, and he would have had I love
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: DC too. He's my favorite person to do commentary with
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: by far. He's the best. He's fun, he's we have
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: such a good time. We have such a good time.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: He's such a fun dude, like genuinely happy, fun dude.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Look at him. That's two of five DC. So two
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: of five DC. Though you're telling me that like Alex Pereira,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: if he was built like that, couldn't lose twenty pounds.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Of course he could. Yeah, I don't know because he's not.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Look if you see the guys that fight at eighty five,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: like Joe Pifer, Joe Pifer is a giant, drekis Trickis
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: dupless is a fucking giant. He's big, he's gigantic. He
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: looks like a heavyweight. But he makes eighty five. What
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: does that mean? He's sucking it in. He could have
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: made middleweight. He could have made middleweight if he had
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like the real if he just had the drive and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: did it as a lifestyle change, and like did it
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: over the course of like a year and like really
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: leaned himself out, got on like a ketogenic diet, leaned
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: himself out.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: But then how often would he be able to fight.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Depends on how much he actually gets his body weight
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: down to. That's the thing. Like he sees only like
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: five eleven five'. Ten how tall is. He i'm gonna
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: give him five. Eleven maybe maybe like, him MAYBE i love,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: him might be might be five. Eleven but there's guys
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: with his body that could Have but it's not like
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a thing where you can make the weight by just dehydrating. Yourself,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: no he's too. Big but if he had with his,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: frame if he had slowly but surely leaned himself out
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and did it healthy smart over like the course of a,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: year you'd have to take some time off and really
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: just dedicate himself to just getting. Lean his gas tank
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: could be. Better who's gonna fuck with that guy At?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Middleway do you remember what he was doing A Dan?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Henderson do you remember that? Fight flipped him like a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: burger bro he threw him around like a rag. Doll
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And Dan henderson's a. Monster he's a. Monster that guy's a.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Beast he's such a tank AND dc just rag doll,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: them just rag doll.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Them that was two of, five, Right henderson came.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Up henderson came.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Up, yeah you, know because WHEN i would cut, down
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: AND i wasn't always this big at thirty, five but
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: WHEN i would cut down to thirty, FIVE i would
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: have to do it in, stages SO i couldn't do
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: a three month turnaround LIKE i did for the one.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Fight how much time do you?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: NEED i needed four months is.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Ideal that's.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Crazy it's ideal so long BECAUSE i could slowly get
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: down and THEN i could start tripping away Because i'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: at my natural. State i'm fat and, happy and it's
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: not even. Fat i'm just adding my normal walking. Weight
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: and THEN i get down from seventy whatever to. Seventy
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: THEN i get it the next week or the week
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: following down to sixty. Five after, THAT i get down
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: to sixty and that's like the optimal WEIGHT i want
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to be. At and THEN i get to fifty five
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and this is like Where i'm going to be When.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I'm stepping into the.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Octagon so to do that over the periods of, time
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: like you could do it really quick BECAUSE i have
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the wrestlers. MENTALITY i can do it, fast but doesn't
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: mean everything's going to be where it should. Be AND
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: i also felt my cardio in rounds four and five
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: in comparison to doing rounds four and five in the
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: training room severely. Different my gas thank you'd THINK i
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: was morob, right and just for comparison's, sake, Right and
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Then i'll go into the. Fights in around four or,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Five i'm, LIKE i gotta serve some. MINUTE i can
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: serve some menagy Because i'm slowing. DOWN i can feel,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: it But i'm trying not to show.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: It is there a difference between when you were allowed
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to use THE ivy and when they took the IV's.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: AWAY i USED ivy, once only, once AND i was
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: in like twenty. FIFTEEN i thought it was stupid it
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: forever to get. It And i'm, LIKE i could have
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: been eating right, now And i'm the same weight THAT
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: i was WHEN i just, ate LIKE i much rather
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: just stuff my.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: FACE i think the idea is that it hydrates you
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: more efficiently because instead of having to go through your,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: stomach it goes right into your veins and then it
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: hydrates your muscles more.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: EFFICIENTLY i didn't really feel like a performance. Difference If
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: i'm being, honest, interesting But i'm. Different some people called
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: me an anomaly and they, said you can't do WHAT i.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: DO i drink in training camp and people Think i'm.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Crazy really, YEAH i drink the night before the. Fight, What,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: YEAH i have one glass sometimes? Two really threeas they
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: were getting.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Crazy but the night before the fight after you've, wait,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: yeah why.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Do you do? That i'm Not John. Jones that guy is.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Built i'm built, different but he's built different than.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Me, WELL i Think john is just so fucking talented
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and so fucking smart that he was able to get
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: by and dominate at a world championship level by putting
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: himself at a deficit like, that whereas If, john you say,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: That But john's a different, person like he wouldn't be
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Guy and he's.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Wild there's something About john that's one of the reasons
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: why he's so good is that he's. Wild he's intelligent
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and wild at the same, time.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: And that's why you can't. Compare it's, like whatever makes
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: you happy when PEOPLE i Remember Kyle dike said something
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: like he will eat ice cream not right before a,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: match but in his training he's, like because it makes him.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: HAPPY i want to have a drink because throughout the trading,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Camp i'm ready going through this hard grind after, sparring
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: AND i feel LIKE i hit a threshold where my
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: conditioning is at a place WHERE i want it to.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Be it's like a.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Checkpoint i'm, Like, okay this is my. CHECKPOINT i hit.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: It have you ever worn an or ring or a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: whoop strap bringing those? Things, yeah that thing's. Stupid, well.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: That thing's attacking me every day because of what.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It's saying is that the alcohol is affecting your. Sleep
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: stop attacking.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: ME i.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Took that ship off the corner with your.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: FACT i REMEMBER i brought Out Adrian. GIANNIS i brought
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: him out. Twice the first time though it is for
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: the podon, rematch and, uh he stays at my house
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: for about a week we SPAR i think it was A.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: THURSDAY i take him To johnny mcgourey's AND i bring
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: it to my GUY Richi johnny mcgory's a it's a
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: pub On Long island In. Massapeko they got to, now
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: BUT i bring him over there and the GUY i
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: talked to over, there WHO i do With rishi he's the.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Man he's good friends with Wide men And valante from
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: like the college days back At hastra and he's a
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: BIG mm. Fan SO i love that so instantly we
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: kicked it off WHEN i met him the first. Time
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: SO i bring him over there and it's after Spar i'm, like,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: yeah we're gonna get some.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Food we go there and then he sees me AND.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I order a drink And i'm.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah get one for him.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Too he's, like, yo, bro what do you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: What are you? DOING i was, like, no, no this is.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Normal trust with. You he's like you he looks at.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Me he's just like.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Dumbfounder he's, like you drink in training camp like it
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: was the biggest like taboo thing on. Earth i'm, like, yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: dude like we just had some good rounds. Today this
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: is my.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Reward you deserve one, Too like you're in.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Shape i'm in. Shape let's have one or two and.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Uh AND i always get My thai chili wings over.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: There and so WHENEVER i go In Long, island i'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: finishing up a camp on The East, Coast i'm fighting
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: home on The east. Coast reshie always hit me. Up
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: he goes we're gonna do the, ritual get The tai
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: chili wings and get my IPA's and, yeah but LIKE i,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: said everyone's. Different whatever makes you feel, comfortable if you're
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: gonna do, it you.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Can't like for, me like having a drink the night
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: before the.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Fighting people go, like you're not where it's gonna affect your,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Performance AND i, go IF i lose because of this one,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: DRINK i was supposed to win point blank.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Period, okay but let me push back on. That imagine
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you're fighting a guy who you and him.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Are like, that neck and, neck neck and.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Neck, neck, yeah, right neck and, Neck and the difference
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: is whether or not you got that extra rem sleep
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the night before where you could push when you lay,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: off when you lay back on the, gas when you
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: really maybe, could like if you were a little bit more,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: arrested you could just one extra, move one extra, transition
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: one extra guard, pass one extra attempt at a, submission
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: one extra thing that gets you the.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Round you know What i'm. SAYING i take my neaps
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: before the. Fight i'd take my nask before the. Fight
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: recharge that.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Bettery, well. Listen iliatabory used to drink wine at the weigh.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Ends he was weighing. In while he was cutting, weight
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: he was. Drinking. Yeah, yeah there's no perfect. FORMULA i
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: mean it, also there's, something doesn't he, said for doing
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: what makes you happy. ALWAYS i think enthusiasm is a
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: very important. Thing enthusiasm and joy is a very important.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Thing it's. Underrated.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah so my Friend Dennis, bezukiah he just fought in
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: The albania. Card bad stoppage by the ref AND i
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Like Jason, herzog but bad. Stoppage he said he. Tapped
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: he didn't, Tap BUT i remember his Second contender. Fight
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: he's cutting weight And morob is having a party at
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: his house In.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Vegas that top that was a weird. One that tap was.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Weird he went from locking his hands to finding his
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: leg and pushing off the, leg and he ruled it
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: as a.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: TAP i just don't understand that. TAP i, GO i Go.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Jason i've trained With, jason And i'm not attacking him
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't want people.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: THINKING i don't like to.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Attack people unless they really deserve.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It BUT i.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Go if you're not, sure because he said he wasn't.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Sure he said it looked like a, Taped SO i.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Go if you think it looked like. It you weren't.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Sure why not just wait because if it, was he
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: would do it. Again, yes but his immediate action after
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: pushing off the leg was to grab between his leg
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: where you kind of lock your hand from the head and.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Arm fen AND i have the hardest time ever Finishing.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Dennis And i'm a pretty good black belt in jiu,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: jitsu and that's a good position for me AND i.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: STRUGGLE i could count on my hands how many TIMES
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: i probably finished him in that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Position it's also it's the classic. Defense, yes you grab
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the leg and that's the best way to prevent the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: guy from putting all the pressure on the, neck the
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: head and. Arm do you ever go to do you
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: know what the impaler is and He bravo calls the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: impaler to get out of that. Position you you slide
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the knee to the sternum and you finish with the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: knee on the sternum for the bottom, guy for the top.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Guy so when the guy's, defending, yes, yeah you go
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: knee to. Sternum it's fucking, brutal, man because you're a
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Brutal you're being attacked on two different. Fronts uh. Huh
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you're being. Crushed your SM's being, crushed and this defense
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: does not work as good. Anymore it still gives you
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: a little. Bit the grabbing the leg and looping over
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: like that gives you a little. Bit but there's something
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: about that crushing on the sternum and along with the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: squeeze of the head and arm. Choke, yeah it's.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Nasty the difference with, THAT i would imagine you at
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: least When i've tried, IT i try to get it
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: before they get on their, side because once they're perpendicular
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: with the, ground it's a little bit hard to get
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: the exact course pressure point of what you. Want AND i,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: GO i try this literally the very next, day AND i,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: go there's no way you could submit somebody with your
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: ass in the. Air you could be squeezing as hard
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: as you, want but if your asses in the air
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: and this guy's on the, side it's gonna be really
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: difficult to make somebody tap in that, position very, hard.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Depending upon your squeeze. Ability right that. Too did you See?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Amasov When amasov finished? That dude he did he did that.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Thing he's a nasty, grappler.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Bro and it's crazy because he lost To Jason jackson
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: And i'm not saying that as like a slight Bro,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: jason but it's just, like how good Is Jason. Jackson
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Jason jackson's real fucking. Good and that's why you're making,
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: brother he's not signing real.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Good he needs to be signed to THE ufc one hundred.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Crack and he took him. Out, man he took him.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Out he didn't just beat. Him, YEAH i wish they cross. Promote,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: well it's not gonna, happen BUT i Wish Santa claus was.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Real BUT i was, like why don't we just find
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: out who's? Is make it like, boxing you, know where
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: we could find out who's Actually look at this how he.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: FINISHES dc AND i were actually talking about this because
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: he looked he goes knaed to the. Belly see how
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. Across, now if you're grabbing the, Leg so
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: if he was grabbing his, leg you would go knee
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: across the chest and you put it right down on the.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Sternum but he did that to make sure he was flattened, Out,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: yes to make sure that he couldn't go to the.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Side but this dude is just so good.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Wicked joe's just looking LIKE i can't do anything about.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: That of course he, can fucking of course he can break.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Dance bro breakdancing is a great bass for jiu. Jitsu
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: we had a bunch of, Guys Richie martinez And Geo,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: martinez these guys that came Into Tenth. Planet we went
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: back in the early two thousands and we were all,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like oh, shit. Breakdancing like we never even thought. Gymnastics
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: everybody he knew like a guy who could do, gymnastics
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a guy who's like really good at. Tumbling that kind
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: of explosive ability and balance and control and body strength
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: totally translate to jiu. Jitsu but we didn't even think about.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: It like breakdancing is kind of like a gymnastics you.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Know these dudes are doing weird shit where they're on
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: one arm with their legs lotus position above their head
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and they're hopping around on one. Arm that's, crazy it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Is BECAUSE i try to do, It i'm, like, YEAH
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: i can't do.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: That eddie started doing breakdancing practice as a part of
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: like strength and conditioning training for jiu. Jitsu he started
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: trying breakdancing Move eddie's so open. Minded he's always willing
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to try something out, like think About eddie's classes. Too
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: if somebody finishes somebody with, Something eddie will stop the,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: class what did you? Do and it's, like, OH i
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: do this AND i grab my foot here and he's, like,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: okay everybody look at. This come, over come, over and
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: he'll bring everybody. Over he show it to, us show
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: us how you set it, up and he'll show them
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: how he set it, up and they, go who thinks
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you can get out of? This who thinks they got
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: to move to get out of? This and then they
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: would all practice different ways to get out of, this
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and they, go, well what if a guy does? This
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: what if a guy does? That and they break it
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: down like he is very very like open to new,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: moves you, know and it's it makes his classes very
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: interesting in that. Regard you guys still, TRAIN i. DON'T
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: i haven't.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Trained in a.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: WHILE i was training With Gabe toddle out here for
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: a little, bit BUT i got one, knee man that
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: just keeps fucking. Up AND i do too MANY i
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like to do too many things to want to go
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: through another surgery or to deal with SOMETHING i just
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: don't want. To it's like EVERYBODY i know that gets
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to my age that still, trains gets a disc, replacement
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: gets another, surgery gets another, surgery and then when you
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: start getting like back surgeries or Like Matt sarah just
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: got a knee replacement, recently we start getting to that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Range it's, like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey this shit's.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Forever you gotta walk, around you got to play with your,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: kids you gotta be able to go, hiking you gotta
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: be able to do. Things and if you break your body,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: down especially through, GRAPPLING i still hit the. BAG i
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: still still train like. KICKBOXING i still do a lot
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: of working. OUT i work out, constantly but every TIME
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: i start doing jiu jitsu, again my knee starts.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Throbbing yeah that's, uh that's kind of similar to Al.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Quinto yeah. SUCKS i ALWAYS i always go, LIKE i
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: wonder how much more he had in the.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Tank but he can be a hell of a fight
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: on no. Notice, yeah no, Notice.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: And THE competi fans don't give him any credit for.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: It they, go he was playing with. HIM i, go,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: really tell me one fighter who goes out there and
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: tells you that they're just going to play with their.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Opponent, Primetime al was a. Beast, yeah he was a
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: beast and he was tough as ship in.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Game you, know isn't he selling real estate? Now shout
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: out To, yeah he's doing really. Well man for him
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: working together for a little. Bit but then it got
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: to the point WHERE i was, like, DUDE i just
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: don't have the. Time IT'S i got to make a.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Decision and that's WHEN i started doing The Rum company and.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Everything you see how fast time gets absorbed with?
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Things, yeah with. Everything, YEAH i WISH i had multiple
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: lives SO i could do multiple different, things multiple different.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Lives you might be in another, dimension.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: MAYBE i would love, to but in this, DIMENSION i
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: have too many. INTERESTS i almost WISH i didn't have
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: as many things THAT i love to.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: DO i could whittle him down to a. Few, yeah you,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: KNOW i still want. TO i want to learn how
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: you do your spinning back. CAKE i throw, mine BUT
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: i know you do yours a little bit of a different.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: WAY i remember the video you did with THE gsp
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: showing him how you do. Yours but IT'S i like to.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: SPIND i like to spend the. Win listen if it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Lands the amount of torpe that you get on spin it's,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: crazy it's not. Good what do you do different than
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the WAY i do?
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: IT i don't. KNOW i know you're supposed to, step
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: turn the, heel look over the. Shoulder you can jump as.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Well you don't have to step. All the whole thing
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: is just getting it out in a straight. Line and
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: the problem with most people that didn't train like in
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: a classic tak onondo school is that it's a.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Circle circle can. Land it can, land and it can
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: be really powerful if it, lands but it's not going
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to be as powerful as the WAY i do. It
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the WAY i do it is a. Turn and THEN
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: i always say spinning back kick WHEN i do commentary
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: because everybody understands. That, yeah but it's a turning, sidekick
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: is the way we talked about it in. Takuando it's
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a turning, sidekick the. Sidekick, Yeah i'm getting maximum amount of,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: energy maximum. Efficiency it's the difference between throwing a punch like.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: This you can knock somebody out if you throw a
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: punch like, this like a crazy arm, punch and you
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: could hurt them and knock them out one hundred percent
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: of the. Time and you could do that once and
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: say that's the way to throw a, punch or you
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: could learn how to throw a Punch Tommy hearn's, style
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: where you fucking turning your body into it and you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: got all that torque and bang it catches you on
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the end in a straight. Line And tommy would just
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: starch people with, that Or Deontay wilder right straight straight
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: down the. Pipe that's the difference between a turning sidekick
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and when people spin in a. Circle so when you
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: spin in a, circle of, course it's gonna have. Power
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: you have giant. Legs your legs carry your body.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Around all day.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Long you've got the you're pushing off the other, leg
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you're spinning with all Your torso, yeah it's gonna have,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Power but it's not gonna have as much power as
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: the WAY i do. It the WAY i throw. It
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: when it, lands it's everything's going in a straight line
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: And i'm pushing off my back leg And i'm getting
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: all my abs into, it my hips into, it and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: it's just straight, Bud AND i know that IF i
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: hit you with, that you're going downwhere you're going, Down
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you're going to the. Hospital like you're not gonna make. It, Man,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: YEA i.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Saw you hit the bag AND i was, like holy,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: shit that's the fucking kick and a half right.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: There there's only one video of me online. Fighting it's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: from WHEN i was. NINETEEN i was at THE Us
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: cup In connecticut AND i hit this dude with a
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: spinning back kick and send him through the a send
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: him flying through the. Air AND i knew the MOMENT
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: i hit, Him i'm, like this fight's. OVER i turned
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: around and just walked off casually BECAUSE i would like
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to do that like fuck with people's. Heads BUT i
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: knew that one move has too much power for your
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: body to. Absorb there's no way you can take. It
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: it's just too. Much it's like getting hit by a.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Car and that's, nasty, Man it's a nasty. Kick like
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: When john landed On, Steepe, yeah it has caved his body,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: In Like steepe is one of the toughest human beings
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: is to ever walk the face of the. Earth but
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: he takes that to the body like that's you're not going.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Nowhere you're not going. Nowhere And john's so, Smart Like
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: john practiced that specific technique because he was going up to.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Heavyweight he was, LIKE i need something BECAUSE i can't
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: knock guys out with one punch at. HEAVYWEIGHT i can
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: maybe kick him, with but what's the most powerful, kick
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and he realized is the spinning, backkick so he just drilled.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: It so three days a, week that's all he would
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: do is just drill the spinning back. Kick this episode
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and one thing About John, Man he's such a.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Like HIS iq has always been through his fighting RQs.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Crazy he understands, fighting AND i think that's what sets
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: him apart from everybody. Else he understands, Himself like if
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: you look at, him he can Go i'm not probably
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: gonna knock anybody out a heavyweight with the WAY i.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Punched so develop something else and it, works and that's just.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Reality that's just the reality of his. FRAME i, mean you,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: know is what as well as. Anybody it's weird how
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: some people can just. Punch they're like from the moment
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: they get into the, gym the first time they're hitting the, pads,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: like what the. Fuck it's a natural. Gift punching power
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: is a weird natural gift and either you have it
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: or you. Don't and if you don't have, it you
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: can only develop it so.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Much i'm still trying to figure out IF i have.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: It it's, physicists. MAN a lot of it is like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the size of your hands and my arms aren't they're?
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Long, yeah so some of, it like A tapoia, has
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: like he's not as long as with his uh big ass.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: FISTS i always like imitate The tatoya and The condor
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: McGregor little it's just fucking.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Funny Ship Well connor is another, example like big. Fists
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: many that dude's fists, there that's a big. Thing, YEAH
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: i got a little uh these, Hands, YEAH i do
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: what you gotta.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Do these hands are meant for grabbing.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Things, yeah well they're really good at. That but that's
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the beautiful thing ABOUT mma as opposed to, Boxing like
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of different ways to finish a.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Fight, yeah what did you think about the fight With
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: yusuf before the fight? Happened like in terms of LIKE
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: i used to text, you like like, asking like your,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: opinion like what do you?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Think you?
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Know So i'm curious to know what your thoughts were
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: before the. Fight obviously, eyesight BECAUSE i know WHAT i
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: thought going To.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: What did you think going into the?
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: FIGHT i thought it was gonna probably be one of
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: the hardest, fights for. Sure we've trained together multiple times
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: back in twenty. Seventeen we've trained together a couple of
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: times within the last two, years AND i always knew
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: he moved well on the, feet lateral, footwork great calf.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Cakes AND i said to, myself IF i get chopped
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: down with a couple of these calf cakes early in the,
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: fight it's gonna be a rough, night especially IF i
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: can't move and do WHAT i, do which Is i'm
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: also good at loatteral, footwork and he has those nasty
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: knees up the middle that are very quick to end
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: a fight or put you on skates and could get
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: you out of, there. Right and he did submit me
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: that one, time SO i think that really gave him
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of confidence coming into.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: It so those were my.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: THOUGHTS i was, like for me to win, THIS i
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: gotta stay on the outside and then put pressure on
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: him WHEN i can put pressure on, him take away
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: his calf cakes WHEN i can by putting him on
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: the back, foot making a little bit more difficult to
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: land that calf cake with, authority.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Right so that was my two cents on.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: THAT i knew IF i could take him down, first
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: it should go my. Way well it. Worked, yeah it
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: was a little easier THAN i thought it would have.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Been BUT i think that a different. Beast, yeah T.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I was, like, OH i adin't plan for. THIS i
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: didn't plan for this.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: One that was. Tight, yeah but you got out of.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: It AND i think you're a different beast at forty,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: five you. KNOW i think you just have more resilience
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: at Forty you're more durable at forty, five more energy.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Too, yeah that's where it comes.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: From. Right it's. AGAIN i wish we could eliminate weightcutting
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: completely from, fighting And i've had conversations with THE ufc
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: about doing, it but there's no real road map that makes.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: SENSE i think once guys get it ingrained in their
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: head that they're gonna cut, weight they're just always gonna cut.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Weight they're gonna even if there is weight, Classes they're
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: just gonna fight. Dehydrated they're gonna figure out a way
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: BIGGER i, mean we did it for, wrestling and we
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: competed two hours, later sometimes an.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Hour but you're not getting punched and kicked in the.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Head that's the.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Difference that's WHY i feel if they did same day
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: WANs kind of like what you do for an. Amateur
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: you can get as big as you can, get which
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: is gonna be very, little maybe five. Pounds SO i
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: go same day. Wanes you give them four, hours so
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: this way they can, eat have a nice, meal, digest
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: and then it can still warm up and have enough
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: time to prepare for the.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: FIGHT i think for the fighter's own, safety you almost
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: have to protect them from, that and that's why they
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: have the way in the day before for their own,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: safety because there's guys that are just gonna be stupid
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and the fights are gonna. Suffer they're not gonna be
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: as good because you're gonna be more. DEPLETED i JUST
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: i just think there's gonna be people that understand you
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: can't cut twenty pounds the day of the fight and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: go and.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: COMPETE i think that's gonna be the, End like the
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: end will be all like you're gonna come to the realization, like,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: hey they'll.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Just, lose and then it'll weed out the people that are.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Doing that and then they'll, Go, okay SO i didn't, work,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: RIGHT i have to go up in away class and
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: this makes more sense for.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Me wouldn't it be better if we, look we have
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: random drug, tests, right they just show how many times
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you've been randomly drug.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Tested what you saw up probably a. LOT i know
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: they have it on the. Website you could check how
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: many times people have been tested and. Whatnot so it's just.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Random now imagine if they did random weigh. Ins that'd be, cool,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: yeah but then the problem would be what happens to
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: the day of the. Fight that's you, know like you
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: what if the guy doesn't make? Weight, yeah what if
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: you have a giant pay per view or a giant numbered.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Card is that? Dead you have a giant numbered card
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: and the guy doesn't cut weight or doesn't doesn't make,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: weight what do you? Do do you still have the?
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: FIGHT i mean we had the fight, now, yeah BUT
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: i mean what Changes it would be different if you
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: only had to cut a few pounds, Though like if
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: it's so if you did it that, way random weigh
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: ins and then weigh in day of the, fight even
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: if a guy was, heavy like you weighed in you,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: know one thirty seven or, Whatever you're, like, well you
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: got to lose two. Pounds anybody could lose two pounds
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the day of and it's not that big a. Deal,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: yeah if you're not cutting weight. Already, yeah if you're
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: not cutting weight already and you're fully hydrated and you
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: weigh in the scale one thirty seven five is. Easy
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: or just penalize them the same way we penalize them. Now,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: yeah guys just going to take the penalty and fight.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Bigger but it's like.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: You're, Ready you're like for, me if we did same day,
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: WEIGHS i would have to fight at one hundred and
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: fifty five. Pounds there's no way possibly even one seventy
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: because that's the weight class one sixty five would be
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: the sweet, spot whereas like this is, NICE i don't
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: have to. Cut i'm probably gonna fight guys more likely my,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: size And i'm gonna feel. Good i'm gonna have the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: energy to, compete And i'm not dehydrating myself severely or
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: one to fifty, five WHERE i could diet a little,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: BIT i can still get, DOWN i hold myself for a,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: meal step on the. SCALE i can have my. Meal,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: NOW i feel. GOOD i go, compete But i'm not
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: dieting all the way down to one hundred and thirty
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: five pounds one hundred and forty five, Pounds so that's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: a ten pound, gap you see What i'm. Saying so that's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: WHY i think the same day it makes sense because
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: you're not as depleted where it wouldn't be as severe
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: in comparison to what we're doing.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: NOW i think that would be. Smart BUT i think
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the only way that's really going to happen is if
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you have more weight, classes like at least every ten.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: POUNDS i, mean look at. Boxing boxing has so many
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: more weight classes than THE, Ufc like how many weight
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: classes are there in boxing too. Many there's a, lot
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: there's like every three pounds. Sometimes well the life weights
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: right when you get down to like atom weight and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: strawweight and, flyweight like their flyweights are fucking, tiny you,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: know like their bantam weight is, what it's not one thirty,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: five it's. Lower, yeah it's like one to twenty six or.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Something it's bantam weight when eighteen that's. Crazy minimum, weight that's.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Crazy imagine telling the lady that in the, bar what
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: do you? DO i? Fight we'll, wait you fight at minimum.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: WEIGHT i never even hearing it at.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Minimum weight is, crazy.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: YEAH i, mean but this is also Why Manny pakiao
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: was able to go up and win world championships in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: eight different weight, classes which is fucking, bananas which cool
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: though it's, crazy but so go back to that, again,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: please so look at the difference in the gaps when
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you get to the. Top you got one twenty two
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: to one twenty, six only four pounds one thirty another six,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: pounds thirty, five another five, pounds it's kind of. Random
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: five more pounds to forty seven pounds to welterweight forty.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Seven that's another stupid thing that we, do where we
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: have you have welterweight in, boxing which has existed since
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: the beginning of, time and it's always been one forty,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Seven Sugar Ray, Leonard Tommy, hearns all his, People Roberto
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: duran one forty seven are welterweight one, Seventy, like it
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't even make any. Sense come up with another. Name,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: yeah what's a? Welterweight you just something somebody made. Up
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't even make.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: SENSE i just think we're we're like The americans versus The.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Europeans we just want to go against the. Green like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: we have inches instead of centimeters like what we use in,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: metrics and pounds versus. Kilos like we just.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: We just, said fuck everything you're.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Doing we're gonna do everything.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Different we're just gonna challenge everything that you're. Doing there's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: a little of that, too BUT i think they just
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: wanted recognizable names when they came up with weight, classes
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: because remember there was only two at one point in.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Time was it lightweight AND i don't, remember but When
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Frank shamrock was fighting in his, day it was like two. Hundred,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: yeah he fought at two hundred and then there was a.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Heavyweight so, YEAH i don't even. KNOW i don't know
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: what those. WEIGHTS i used to, watch BUT i didn't. Know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: SHIT i just.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: WATCH i think it should just be the number you.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Weigh it should be fighting the world champion at one
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy, pounds that's what it should be. Like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: wrestling doesn't have names for the weight. Classes, no you
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: just have. Weights we just have. Weights that's what it
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: should be. Like this is. Stupid the fuck is a wealthy? Weight?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Well the fuck is a? Strawweight what's an atom? Weight you?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Know shut? Up what's a? Flyweight? Fuck? Very you know
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: you don't weigh with a? Flyways this is. Stupid flyweight's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: a dumb. Name the one hundred and twenty five pounds
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: champion of the. World minimum weight is a ridiculous.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Name.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous nobody wants to be minimum. Weight i'd rather fight
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: fat minimum. WEIGHT i never even knew that was a
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: thing until just. Know, yeah it's probably tiny little. Dudes
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: there's a few dudes that fight In Adam wait in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: ONE fc and their kickboxing division that are. Wild. Man
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: it's incredible to. Watch they're so, fast it's like they're
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: defying space and, time you, know and they're super. Skillful,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: yeah there's there's the one. GUY i saw The japanese, Fighter,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: no Not japanese, fight the guy doing Muay, thai the,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: well there's A japanese. Fight the guy In riisin who
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: FOR patchi. Mix oh, yeah, dude, dude beast the fuck
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: was that dude was a.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: BEAST i was, like this guy's been hiding over here
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: the whole time and the world doesn't know who this man.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Is this guy is a. Savage, yeah he LIT patchi on.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Fire that was.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: In patty's not a, striker but he's competent. Enough, yeah
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: but that was like he exposed like, everything every flow
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: that he has as a stand up. Guy he took
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: full avenge of. IT i was, like, dude this guy's
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: fighting like he's in the matrix right.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Now there's a bunch of those guys that exist out
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: there in the world, now you.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Know it's it's a different world that we live. In
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: the daggerstating. GUY i think that guy a lot of.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Them there's a lot of.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Them there's the the guy fights in THE Pfl Mega,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: medoff who's fucking nasty, man and he fights exactly like
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the guy WHO i think might be the best striker
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in the, world who's just a Muay thai Guy. ADULAV
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: i think that's the. Guy, YEAH i can't say, that,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: BRO i can't say. That it's a tough one to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: say that guy is. Nasty but this this guy Magham.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Edoff did you see THE.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: PFL i didn't get to watch it last.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Weekend he fought uh in THE pfl and he fights
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: just Like Im ghaziliev and they're both From. Dagistan so
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: guarantee you these guys are training.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Together that was the one last, weekend, right uh. Huh,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: yeah we have one guy on that.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Card his name Is.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Levan he's nasty From, ossetia The calcas, regions but he's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: he's a nasty.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Striker there's so many of those guys right now that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: are coming up that no one knows and their world.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Class they're like elite world class fighters and no one
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: knows who they. Are it's kind of. Crazy, yeah it's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: like the amount of like world championship, caliber potential world
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: championship caliber fighters out there never been.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Higher imagine talking shit to that.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Guy all because you didn't know who he. Was he
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: just like it's a problem out there in the world right.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Now there's so many guys who could fight as supposed
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to just be, nice don't talk, Shit, yeah don't talk.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Shit everything would be. Okay, YEAH i, mean how hard is?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: It so tell me what you think about this Weekend
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: islam Versus Ian. Gary so.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: What's fascinating about this matchup is how Well Ian gary
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: can control the. RANGE i think he's going to be
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: much bigger Than islam in a sense of height reach.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Advantage in terms of, SIZE i never thought ian was
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: the biggest wealth.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: TOWEIGHT i still don't think he.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Is, well he can't. Be he's so, tall he can't.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Thick, No but in a, sense even when.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: You're talking just from a weight, standpoint from what he
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: was walking around at right and forgot what he told
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: me he walked around, there but he wasn't cutting a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: whole lot of. WEIGHT i woant to, say off the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: top of my, head maybe ten.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Pounds which is why he's so. Healthy, yeah he has such.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Energy SO i, go you're cutting just, this and you're
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: going out there and doing this to these guys who are.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: You, know essentially, bigger heavier. Guys but he's got the speed.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Advantage the thing About, islam he's such a complete. Fighter
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: he could do everything but this will be the first
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: time he's got a test with a guy who's a long,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: man and can he get inside take him. DOWN i
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: don't think he's going to stand up and strike with.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Him he, can BUT i just don't think that's the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: path to victory against the.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Guy like, AGAIN i don't think he has any plans
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: standing up and striking with him other than as a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: means to an. End, yeah and his grappling is so high.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Level His islam's grappling right now is at the top
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: of the food.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: CHAIN i always want to grapple with those guys just
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: to see Where i'm. At you should go over. THERE
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: i remember When alfa could be and al might have
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: been like the only guy who was able to like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: escape certain positions multiple, times where most guys they kind
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: of just, concede defeet and they just. Fold and we
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: were talking, afterwards he goes, LIKE i think you would
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: actually do really well grappling with, him And i'm, like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: probably try to get me killed right, now you trying
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: to get me killed by the. Bear but whenever he
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: when he said, that it kind of stuck with.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Me i'm, like, MAN.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: I just from my own like, experience not like an
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: ego thing or anything like.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: That just be cool to.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: See AND i would like for them to put it
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: on me just SO i can see like Where i'm,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: at see If i'm how my strength measures up with
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: theirs POSITIONALLY iq knowing when to transition to certain. Spots of,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: course the weight it's going to play a big, advantage
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: but it's still cool BECAUSE i grapple with bigger. Guys
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: i've grappled With, wyman AND i always Tell chris, LIKE
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: i wish we were the same, size because you would
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: have been my main training, partner, bro you, know because
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: that would have been cool like kind of coming up that.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Way but you, know Obviously morob was my, Guy al
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: was my Guy.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Dennis what happened mirob as a training partner must have
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: been an awesome. Advantage, oh it's the.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Greatest this is, like, no there's no replicating. That AND
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: i see guys outside of like they'll watch and they'll, think,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: like you, know he's kind of like all over the,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Place he's not, really and then they're going there with,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: it will go h it feels a little different that
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: you've been in there with the.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Guy it's it's a whole.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Different beast to watch from the, Outside you're, like what
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: is he actually good? At but it's just like the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: chaos that he, brings always constantly challenging your nervous, system
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: reacting to his, fins his. Movement he's just he's just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: always giving you something to think. About AND i REMEMBER
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: gsp talked about, that just saying, like you want to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: use your fans to challenge the nervous, system get guys to,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: react because eventually you start to, Slowly like in the,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: beginning we're, quick, twitchy, right we could react to.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Everything we're super.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Sharp as time starts to go, on those reaction times
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: starts to go a little bit.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Slower you don't.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: React as fast or as, quickly and things that we're
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: landing weren't landing are now. Landing fross talks about that a.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Lot, YEAH i think that's Where george got At, yes for,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: us very smart, Dude so very smart. Dude when it
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: comes to like strategy and understanding like what's going on with,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: fighters why they're reacting to certain, things and what to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: do and how to. Counter it's not. Guesswork it's like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: a really, intelligent structured system of what to. Do, yeah
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: you have to be like.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: That, YEAH i think some guys they train and then
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: go and fight without any.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Goal in.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Mind AND i try to pre this BECAUSE i used
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: to coach At longos a lot, before you, know running
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of my own, practices training camps and stuff like.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: That SO i took over the role of you know,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: What we're going to add these two MM a classes
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: in and when we come, in we're going to work
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: on separate things from my fight and anybody who has a,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Fight and If i'm not, fighting we're going to focus
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: on you, Guys and even IF i have a, fight
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: we'll also work in positions that you guys need to work.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: On AND i always try to explain to you, guys
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: like when you're coming, in you should have a. Mission
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: don't just waste an, hour hour and a half of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: training just to SAY i. Trained that's cool if you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: don't have a, Fight but you should always be looking
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: for something to get better, at something that you can improve.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: At when you're, Sparring, hey you're not just going in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: there to Spar there should be an. Intent your sparring
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: partner should be looking to give you a look for the,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: fight and you shouldn't be looking to be a complete
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: asshole and kill your sparring, partner because then nobody wants
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: to spar with. You, right they're doing you a, favor
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: and you need the favor from them to get where
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: you want to. Be to make sure all the things
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: that you're drilling on the, pads drilling what your partners
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: one on, one and then when you go into sparring
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: and putting it, together pull it from one hundred, percent
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: pull it down to like. Seventy this way you can.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Work in real. TIME i call it guided.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: DISCOVERY i learned This Sunny courtland WHEN i was studying
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: to be A pe.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: MAJOR i guided.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Discovery, yeah so you're working on certain things and say
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: we're doing wrestling and you're learning the. POSITION i show
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: you a high, Crotch you grab the trice up or
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: you post. It you shoot the high, crotch which means
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: your head is on the, outside AND i attack the.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Leg two hands are now locked on the outside. Leg
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: my head is on the, outside And i'm in a strong.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: Position my pasta straight and now you're learning. Defense, okay
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: so from a defensive, position a guy shoots a, shot super,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: clean super. Perfect what are my choices THAT i can.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Make what are the. OPTIONS i could turn the head
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: to the inside stuff to. HEAD i could push the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: head further the outside and stuff the head to the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: outside where his head already is and look to cut the.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Corner OR i could use my stuff to head and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: use my my wizard or tight, waist plugging the hip
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: stuff in the head and rotating my. Hips and if
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: he puts me down to the, map what is my
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: responses from? That so then you're chaining everything together and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: you kind of got a system of my, responses So
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: i'm not just doing stuff based on. Instinct instinct is,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: good but you should also have instinctual habits if that makes,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: sense like stuff that you know will, work and then
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: you fine tune it to, know this is my line of.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Defense if he goes here AND i feel him going this,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: WAY i go this. Way and if he's starting to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: turn the other, way THEN i KNOW i need to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: do this and turn his head the other, way put
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: my pressure on my weight in another position so THAT
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: i can now create this space SO i can escape
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: and get my leg. Out and a lot of guys
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: they're not trained like. That they're, going they're, sparring they're
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: just throwing a bunch of. Punches maybe they're throwing set
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: combos at the head on the, Paths but how are
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: you setting it?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Up are you fainting moving him.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Towards the, cage looking for the gap where the octagon
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: kind of changes where it's no longer like a flat
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: surface and it's cutting at an angle where you take
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: away a little real estate and then you're trapping them
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: where there's not a lot of room for them to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: get back. From but now you can set up your
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: strikes and know where you're trying to. Go but If
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: i'm cutting him off and he constantly does this and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: he maybe juke steps me and goes back the other
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: direction That i'm starting my, combination now he's. Gone so it's,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: like how do you set up all these? Things you
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: know exactly where you want to, go because he's going
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: to have an option in the fight in road, time
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: but in training is where you should be working out
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: the kinks and understanding. This AND i truly feel this
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: is one of the Things i'd done so well early
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: on in my career and WHY i was teaching class
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i felt like the guys needed. IT i was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: taking these guys down at. Will there was no. Resistance i'm,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Like i'm, Good but how good AM i? Actually because
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: these guys they just don't, know they don't have the. Information,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: okay let's level them. Up now these guys are leveled.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Up it makes it harder for. Me NOW i have
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: to improve What i'm doing AND i have to bring
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: a different. Approach, okay he knows how to do this,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: now so WHEN i do, THIS i can't just to
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: get an easy take down. Way i'm just going to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: send him to. This but he's now challenging me with
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: the wizard stuff in my, head breaking my. Posture Now i'm,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Elongated i'm on the, ground Maybe i'm on both. Knees
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: how DO I readjust post my hand get hired, again
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: attacking the, legs taking them back the other, way or
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: coming through the, middle through the crotch and finishing a
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: takedown like what we call some people call It, iranian
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: call it an All american. Finish but there's just so
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: many little. Nuances AND i feel IN mma that people
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: are still training just to. Train AND i think that's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: the difference between understanding your. Timing you know the same,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: moves but IF i know it, faster IF i know
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: how to react faster to, You i'm gonna win that
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: position or the situation every single time unless you throw
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: caution to the win and it's just some random wild
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: card THAT i just get caught, by which If i'm
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: aware it should be the chance of that should be
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: very very.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Low, well that's the benefit of teaching the people that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: you're training with everything you know that, way you must
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: come up with a new solution and you're forcing. It
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: what do you hold? That what do you hold?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: That not everything.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Get. Close but that's also world champion mindset versus someone
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: who's just a fighter who fights and does well and
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: is a good. Fighter but there's so many times WHERE
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: i watch guys fight AND i watch exchanges and they're
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: wading towards each other and throwing bombs at each, other
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: and one guy wins and one guy. Loses But i'm,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: like this is not the ultimate way to do. This
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: this is you can do. It you can be a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: battering ram and a blunt force object and you can
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: get it. Done we've seen so many fights that have
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: just been insane first round, wars and then we've seen
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: guys that just are slick and they're moving around and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: switching stances and doing wild shit that you don't expect
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: and overwhelming the other guy's nervous system and not getting
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: hit and doing things where you're, like oh my, god
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: that's so, sweet that's so. Smooth and those are the
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: guys that are going to, excel and those are the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: guys that are going to really take it to the next.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Level AND i think when you're talking about all these,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: guys like The caucus, guys These dakistani, guys these so
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: many guys that are coming up right now that are
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: so fucking high, Level like you can't have any flaws
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: in your game. Anymore you can't just be a guy
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: who wades at someone and tries to throw bombs and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: hopes they. LAND i, mean maybe that works on a regional,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: scene maybe that works with training partners that are a
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: lower level than, You but you're gonna get pieced up
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: if you fight someone who's really. Good but there's levels
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: and levels and, levels and the levels are changing all the,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: time the levels are moving up all the. Time if
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: you just go back to The Ultimate Fighter season, one
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that's two thousand and, five that's not that long. Ago
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: in regular, sports two thousand and, five boxers look pretty
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: similar to twenty twenty six. Boxers, yeah you, know pretty
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: fucking similar at the world championship level And, mma, man
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: there's no. Comparison it's nuts night and, day night and,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: day and these guys are getting better all the. TIME
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: i see guys coming off The contender, Series i'm, Like,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: okay this guy looks like a world. Champion like right,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: now it's crazy that Ethan ewing. Kid that guy comes
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere matrix and he's fighting so smooth and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: so slick and so intelligent and the footwork and the
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: feints and the movement and knowing what to do at
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: any given, time and you're, like these guys are just
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: so good, now they're so.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: GOOD i was bummed out when he got hurt for
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: that fight with that was a. Bummer did have a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: tough fight, Though BUT i was curious to see how
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: that one was gonna go Because ian to, me is
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: the dark horse in that division right.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, Easily, Yeah, yeah he's the. Wellmaker fight was
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: a big wake up call to. People and then he
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: fought That brazilian cat and just lit him on. Fire
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: to undefeated guys back to, back and it's the way
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: he did it. Too, man it was so, slick and you,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: realize like there are, levels and these guys coming up right,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: now they are already at a level that's above and
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: beyond world championship level of fifteen years. Ago, yeah it's.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Crazy it's two fights in THE ufc and you, know
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago you would have said he was the.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Goat but what's fascinating is, like from a striking, standpoint
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: you could see that and look at a guy and,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: go this guy is the real. Deal but then you
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: kind of, wonder, like, well what happens later in the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: rounds if a guy does take him? Down and how
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: can he adjust to those takedowns in terms of a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: cardio standpoint and lack the gas that build? Up can
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: he turn it around and still be as efficient as?
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Effective so there's so many like variables when it comes
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: to things like, that and when people are game planning
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: and approaching. Fights those are the THINGS i like to think.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: About first, round everyone is, dangerous everyone is so, Skilled
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: but it's, Like, okay IF i can get out of
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: the first, round what does the fight start to look?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Like how DO i paint the picture if it goes
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: in this? Direction he's able to get off a couple
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: of these, things And i'm beating up a little. Bit
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: what are my fallback defenses to try to turn the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: tide a little bit and get it back to going
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: where the ball's now back in my.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Court, well that was WHY i was so interested in
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: seeing what happens in The connor McGregor Max holloway, fight
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: which was crazy that the result was, ridiculous but take that.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: AWAY i was interested BECAUSE i was, like If connor
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: can't take him out, Quickly Max holloway does not get.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Tired he does not get, tired and he's so accustomed
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: to that five round. Pace he understands when to hit the,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: gas when to back, off he knows when to move
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: when to and he's always moving and. Side it's, like
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about getting, Overwhelmed Like Max holloway
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: overwhelms people with, pressure pace and feints and. Skill, yeah
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: and he's not going. Anywhere you guarantee he's going to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: be fighting in the fourth, round just like he was
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: fighting in the first. Round he's not going to fade
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: one of the worst matchups For. Connor if he couldn't
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: take him out of the first, ROUND i.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: ELSE i was hoping we got to see. MORE i
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: think the world was hoping.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: We got to see. Anything we didn't see.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Anything but it's crazy because he threw that same kick
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: in the back, room but this time he runs at
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: him and he throws a lens and it's, like.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Well he threw that. Kick when you're hitting a pad
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: is very different than when you're kicking the. Air you
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: never throw that kick in the. Air you throw that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: kick jumping in the. Air the amount of torque that
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: is on your supporting leg is. Bananas you're just hoping
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: and praying that your knee stays. Together, look if you
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: throw a jumping, sidekick that's a different. Thing you're landing
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: on the. Ground you're landing in a linear way right
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: when you're rotating and kicking and flying through the air
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: at the same, time and your opponent adjust so you're
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: trying to like change the arc in, midair try to
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: catch him as he's circling. Off it's the worst kick
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: to jump and, Throw.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: SO i gotta stop doing that with jumping roundhouse.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Kicks jumping roundhouse kicks are great if you're close enough
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: to land. Them, yeah you, know if you're close enough
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to land. Them who is that guy that landed? It
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: On Bonfime, no not On, bondfime on On James vick
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: in karate. Combat did you see that he throws that
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: jumping switch? Kicks, yes, Yes gabriel the. Turn what is his? Name?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Alvez Raphael. Alves it was one of the worst Chaos
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: i've ever seen in my. Life why Is James vick still?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Fighting he likes?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: FIGHTING i, Guess, oh he's only thirty. Seven i'm thirty.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Seven had a lot of, chaos my, bad cuz, unfortunately
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: and this dude he hit him with this this jumping
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: just right before, that but he looks like a tank
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: compared to. Him, well it's just this. Height his speed is.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Crazy james zck is tall and very skillful, too but
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: it's just this kick would have knocked him out at
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: any point in his, career any point in his, career
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: and any human. Being, look this is too. Much there's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: the amount of force that he lands when he lands this,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: kick when he throws, that he throws the jumping roundhouse,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: kick touches him with the right leg and then comes
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: up top with the left and just clean across the.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Chin they're doing some good stuff at karate.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Combat, yeah, man Fun rebellis was fighting there right before, That.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: JAMIE a little further, ahead go to like right below
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: up before where The brazilian flag.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Is rebella's combined fights In Kadi kambay was like what
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: less than two.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: MINUTES i, know he's just. There it is, there it,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Is so let's watch that, again back it up. Again
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: so watch how he throws it. BOOM i mean it
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: is clean shin to the. JAW i, mean there's no
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: why is he's pointing at?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: HIM i don't.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Know shit's now he's bowing in praying. WELL i mean
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: he realized after it was over how serious it. Was
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: so watch this touches him with the right and then
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: the left. CARS i mean it's literally. Perfect that probably
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: would have killed him at any point in the time
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: in his, career and When james has been in the
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: amount of wars that he's been in and.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: He had his the canvas is the.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Worst oh he was he could have. Died that was
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: one of those ones where he could have, died BECAUSE
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: i think he was in the intensive care for quite
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: a while after this. Fight, really, yeah he was hospitalized
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: for quite a while after this, fight AND i think
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: it was pretty pretty. Serious that. Sucks it was a bad.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Headkick that was a bad. One it's a rough. Sport
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: it's a rough, sport.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: And there's times you don't. Play there's times.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Where guys get killed and they're never the same. Again you,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: know Like Terry edam When Edson barbosa hit him with
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: that wheel. Kack, Yeah Terry edam was a real contender
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: before that, fight and we never really saw him after.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: That it never really achieved those. Levels, AGAIN i.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Don't even did he even fight after.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: That maybe, once, maybe, MAYBE i don't, Know i'm not,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: sure but that fight essentially ended his career because it
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: was SO i, mean and, again that's one of those. Kicks.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Though the wheel kickers so Much torque. BRO i remember
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: my fight With marlon AND.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: I THOUGHT i was going to be one of those.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: GUYS i was so, LIKE i don't say, paranoid but, nervous,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: concern any adjective that you could choose to describe. IT
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: i was just like man after the, fight after the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: fight of getting hit like that, again yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Not even get hit like that.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: Again IF i could even take a, shot and mind,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: YOU i had my phys ed, DEGREE i could have
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: win just.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Been a gym.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: Teacher we've been Some resolve pinsion that would have had health,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: insurance the whole, nine AND i decided to chase the crazy.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Dream thankfully it worked out And i'm blessed for this
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: life and all that good. Stuff but after that, fight,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: man to tell, you like the CONCERN i had IF
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: i would be able to make another two, PAYCHECKS i was,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Like i'm going to do one. More whatever, happens. Happens
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: IF i get knocked, Out i'm just. DONE i gave
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: it a good shot and rolled the. Dice thanks for,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: coming see you, Later thanks for the. Memories but thankfully
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: it worked out AND i was able to keep on.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: PUSHING i remember after, THAT i didn't spar for like three,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: months and the next FIGHT i had.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: What a lot of people, think you should take even
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: more time off than.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: THAT i needed the, Money and that's the shitty part
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: about this this, gig.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Right you need the. Money you need the.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Money i'm living In New york at the, time so
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Long allen's fucking, expensive And i'm subbing as a. Teacher
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: i'm coaching, wrestling and when the training camp came, UP
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: i was Fighting Brett johns undefeated three and on to THE.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: Ufc just came up of a thirty second cast slicer
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: submission Over Joe, soto mind, You Joe sodo submitted.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Me PROBABLY i think five times in five.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Minutes So i'm looking at this guy like this guy
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: is a, wizard you know WHAT i. Mean this is
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: my perception of him going into this. Fight AND i
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: told the guys And i'm gonna spar these last three four.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Weeks i'm gonna just circle And i'm gonna wrestle like you.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Guys try to hit, me but just KNOW i don't
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: want to get hit in the, head but try to hit.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: ME i still want to have like my.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Awareness but that whole last three four, weeks everything was
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: just grappling before, that, striking hitting Pads. CARDIO i was,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: Like i'm gonna just use my footwork and WHATEVER i
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: could do and thankfully.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Work how much time between The marlin fight and that fight.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: Was April december, ninth twenty, seventeen so it was four
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: months just about, yeah, wow which was. Scary it was,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: scary and they offered me to. FIGHT i was, LIKE
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: i don't know If i'm supposed to be doing this right.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Now BUT i kind of need the, money so, well
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: you needed the.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Money but IF i could give an advice to Like,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: VOLKANOVSKI i would have, Said first of, ALL i would have,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: said never take a fight With Islami katschev on eleven. Days,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: notice that's just. Crazy, never especially when you're not training at,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: all you're just kind of, chilling and you take a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: fight with one of the best pound for pound, fighters
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: if not the best on the, planet and you get head,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: kicked and then to Fight ilia just a few months
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: after that is kind of.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: Crazy, yeah and he was looking good in that first
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: round Until ilia does what he, does traps you against
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: that black, line against the, cage and he puts those
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: combinations on you and puts the lights. Out and, YEAH
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: i agree he should have taken more. Time he would
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: have been okay with taking more.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Time you've got to take more. Time you have. To
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: you just have to realize that as tough as you,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: are your body is a machine and if the machine's,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: broken it's got to be, repaired and it's going to
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: take time to. Repair it's not as simple as like
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: you go to the, shop you get a new, carburetor
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: you're good to. Go you gotta give your body time to.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Heal and with the, head it's hard because you don't.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah it's the wild card's and everyone is. Different
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: AND i kind of wonder if that's something to do
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: with like the way people grow, up if maybe they
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: dropped on the head a couple of times when they were.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Kids, sure, football play football in high, school get kaot
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: a few times doing. That you, know you get kaot
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: a few times doing stupid shit with your.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Friends and then you get older and now you're trying to,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: compete and you REALIZE i can't take a, shot, yeah
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: as much AS i.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: THOUGHT i could.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: Have and, like you see a guy Like Diego lopez
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: and you're, like, dude you got his his chin is. Granted,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: bro it's, like what can you hit him with that
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: can actually put him?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Down it's. Crazy, well if he continues getting, hit there'll
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: be a, time. Right but Remember Chuck, Ladell Chush ladell
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: in the early days was. Bulletproof he was. Bulletproof he
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: would just wait at, guys bite down his, mouthpiece eat
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: shots to the head and take guys. Out and he
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: didn't give a. Fuck he had full confidence in his
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: chin and would force guys to these chaotic wars and
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: then and then and then one day you get hit
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: and it just goes, well left, hand broken hand From
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Rich franklin that Hit, Chuck, well, yeah he Broke rich's.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: Arm. Yeah and then, yeah with that broken hand he hit.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Him is that what he knocked him out with a broken?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Arm from WHAT i, remember that's what he hit him
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: with that left hand and put him.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: Out AND i was, like that was he was done
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: at that, Point chim was. DONE i mean After, rampage
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: kot that was kind of that was the big.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: One that was a nasty.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: One that was a nasty. One.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: YEAH i always wanted to be like the Mini, rampage
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: BUT i was, like But i'm not knocking anybody, out
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: so it's us hardy to do.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: That rampage and The, Wolf, YEAH.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: I always wanted to do, that.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: And rampage did it all, natural whereas everybody else was doing,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: juice especially In. Pride you, know he was fighting all juice.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Monsters everyone was a juice monster In. Pride, yeah you,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: know it's a different time back. Then he still has
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: the craziest slam ko of all, time of all all, time, right,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: yep When rona didn't let go of the. Triangle, yeah
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: and he takes him over the top of his head
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: like a pillow and slams him. Down oh my, god
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: that was another. One rona was never the same again
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: after that.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: Fight what About cyborg and that knee FROM mvp that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: was the craziest freaking dent to his, cranium crushed his,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: skull literally crushed his, skull broke his skull.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Open so.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: This is gonna sound like a, joke BUT i, like
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: what do you do plunge it to pull it?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Back you gotta reconstruct. It you ever see what they
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: did do? It not all these plates in his? Head,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: yeah he had all sorts of screws and plates and
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: everything to piece his head back together. Again because the
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: skull structure has been. Compromised what does it do to your?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Brain your brain is now? Squished not? GOOD i mean
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: he said after the, Fight i'll be, back but everybody's, like,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: no you. Won't, no that's what it looked. LIKE i,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: mean that is literally. Crazy, yeah, BRO i saw a
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Muy thai fight recently online where a guy did to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: a dude with an elbow and he caved his head
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: in and you see like this giant hole in his
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: forehead where his head's dented, in and the referees like
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: stop the, Fires like why are you stopping the? Fight he's, like,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: bro you need to see what you look. Like you're
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: not seeing What i'm. Seeing, yeah your head's, dented your head's,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Broken like you have a broken. Head it's amazing how
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: few times that's, happened if you think about, It, yeah
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: this is. It this is.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: It, oh that might be worse than the other.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: One it's right up. There if you back it, up
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: you can see the. Elbow the dude lands right, there,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: boom and then he looks at. Him he's like, hey
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: and then the referee gets a look at, it and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: the referee gets a look at. It as soon as
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: the refereees, it.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: It almost doesn't even want to hit him. Again he's
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: like fuck, YEAH i mean.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: The referee. Stops he's, like hold on a, second let
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: me get a look at. You it's, like you should.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Stop devil brings in the doctor's see what's going on?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Here tomahawked. Him that was what was so impressive About
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Zangnyakov chanko and His john. Pork, yeah why did they
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: call him? THAT i have no. Idea. Changko they call
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Him chunko because that's his. Town that's the town where
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: we grew up In. Okay but h, man that dude's
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: elbows were so. Slick he's slick fun to. Watch he's
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: slick his elbows in the clinch and the tight you,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: know because he's A Muli thai world champion and you
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: know that was his original. Discipline which is interesting when
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: you see these guys who start off as strikers and
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: then they get To dagistan training room With kabebe And
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: islam and all those guys and they learned the, wrestling
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: but they start off with just this elite level. Striking,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: yeah and the other guy was in bad he no
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: get back some some.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: Resilience but oh, yeah, man he dropped.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Him remember, yeah oh, no that was his first. Fight,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: YEAH i, know he didn't drop. Him this was it
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: was his first fight in The contender.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: Series he got.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Dropped he's, uh he's a dangerous, guy, man super. Dangerous
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: uncle's Fucking he's for, real, man and so high level
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: with his. Striking his striking is just so, elite especially
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: those elbows and type man elbows are.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Nasty i'm Like chelse, son AND i.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Can't let you get.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: CLOSE i can't let you get close because, no you're
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: not about to do that to.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Me, bro that's THAT'S i ain't trying to look like.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: That, yeah you, KNOW i want to continue my acting,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: career and you, KNOW i got a whole lot of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: THINGS i want to, do but it's gonna be a
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: little tough if you get a couple of, Those, yeah, well.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Elbows it's kind of funny that your gloves protect your
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: hands but in your, knuckles but not your elbows or,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: knees or your knees or your. Shins it's kind of
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: nuts that we. Have the padded thing is the thing
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: that's the least likely to hurt you if you really
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: think about.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: It it's a crazy, sport is the CRAZIEST i love
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: it and hate it.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Sometimes how much long are you think you're gonna do?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: It you're thirty seven now you must be, thinking you
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: must be thinking how much more AM i gonna do this?
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: For, yeah you, Know i'm just taking it one fight
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: at a. TIME i would like to end my career
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: with THE, ufc.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: You, know.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: HOPEFULLY i think it's an.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Option that you might.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: NOT i don't know you, know you never know what's gonna.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Happen sony comes up with a big. Number, no not even,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: that like you just never.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Know LIKE i, KNOW i sometimes piss off the breasts
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: from time to, time do YOU i Guess i've been told?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: This how THAT i SOMETIMES i don't say the right.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Things what have you?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: Said i'm a very honest, person so SOMETIMES i just
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: tell HOW i really feel about certain. Things and, people
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: these media, outlets they know what they're. Doing they're asking
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: me these questions because they Know i'm going to tell
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: them the clickbait clips that they.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Want who are you talking about? Specifically which one the media?
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Outlets the fuck with? You all of? Them they all
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: try to get.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: It they all all of.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Them they ask these.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: Questions they'll go from fighter, pay And i've been in
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: the headlines will fight to pay many, times many many.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Times it's a legitimate. Argument it.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Is but for some, reason WHEN i WHEN i talk about,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: IT i Am and maybe Because i'm not the crazy
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: guy like A Sean, strickland Because strickland has talked about,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: it and he's always been he's known as the crazy.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Guy but when he talks about, it he.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: Makes it a very logical understanding bit WHERE i, go
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: how come he's not Getting maybe he. Is MAYBE i
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: just don't know BECAUSE i don't. Ask i'm, like for some,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: reason WHEN i say it, IS i feel Like i'm
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: a little bit more.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Screwtinized so what did does THE ufc get upset at?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: You do they say that they're upset at? You you
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: don't have to talk about this if you don't want.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: TO i feel like this is a real. Issue is
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: going to get in trouble with The no because we
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: haven't you you. Are look When Eve luev And Alexander
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: hernett when when they. Fight, yeah it's is very Soon
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: folkanovski is defending his title against, Finally like whoa that
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: guy has been waiting.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: Forever, yeah everybody, Ever SO i don't really know who's
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: a clear cut guy for me to face unless It's Laron.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: MURPHY i was told he was. HURT i think he's.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: BOOKED i Heard loron's got A i heard he was.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Hurt oh, really maybe he had to fight schedule and
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: it doesn't. Anymore, yeah BUT i thought he has a
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: fight coming.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Up, YEAH i was told he was, Hurt so he's
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: gonna be out for a couple of. MONTHS i don't
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: know how. LONG i don't know how serious of an.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: Injury but everybody else's booked and.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Who did he just lose To Laron Mosar that's, right
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: which was. CRAZY i thought that fight should have been
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: scored to. Draw did with the point? Deduction should have
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: been scored to? Draw what was the point deduction? FOR
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: i think it was a low. Blow but they gave.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Him they gave him four. Rounds they gave most are four.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Rounds i'd have to watch it. AGAIN i didn't think
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: it was a bad decision WHEN i saw, it it.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: Was it was a competitive.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: Fight mozart didn't decide to wrestle him until round the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: end of round, three and he just goes to show
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: he could have taken him down anytime he. Wanted i'm,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: WELL i think Most vart. Wanted he wanted to show his.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Striking yes he does have, striking but because of, that
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: he made. It he made it.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: More controversial to the over ro off fan base because
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: he decided to use his wrestling a lot later on
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: in a.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Fight BUT i think he needed to show that he's not.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Boring but he'd get a shot at the, title and
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: now he's got a shot at the, title.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: But the stand up fight between rounds one and two
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: was still like there's nothing.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: HAPPENING i thought it was pretty. GOOD i thought it
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: was pretty chess. MATCH i think it was it was
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: opening up larone to shots THAT i don't think he
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: expected were coming at, him BECAUSE i think he probably
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: anticipated shot, takedowns takedown, attempts and instead most far was
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: getting off on. Him, yeah he gets strike he, can
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: but it's like, you it's, like why do it when
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: you're better at, grappling if you can get a hold of,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: them why do? It? Why why roll the? Dice and
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: you know when people, say like like a lot of
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: people were upset When morob Beat Sugar, Shawan, yeah and
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: they were saying like that was. Boring that was just, like,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: listen this is the sport we're. Watching if a guy
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Like morob can take you down and give you noogies
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: for five rounds and you can't do and you lose your,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: title that's how it. Goes you can't say that's boring
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: and he should fight, differently Because shawn's got to come
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: up with a. Solution he's got to figure out how
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: to deal with. That salas makes fis is about the. Story,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: yep how'd you do against this? Guy it's on market
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Versus Ian? Garrett same, Thing how does he do with this?
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Guy connor McGregor versus could be goa met? Off same
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: thing about the. Storyline, Yeah connor was protecting his WHOLE ufc.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Run now he's fighting a, good.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: High level, grappler probably arguably the best grappler from the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: top position clinch position ever, Ever and it's the. Storyline
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: Can connor McGregor overcome? This can he land a perfect?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Shot it's what gets you to buy into. It but
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna be pissed that the machine is going
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: to come in and your guy can't land the perfect,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: punch whose fall is? That it's, like but this is
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: why you're. Watching you're tuning. In you're not tuning in
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: to watch a slaughtering of the. Lambs you want to
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: watch a competitive. Fight if you just want to watch
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: one sided, FIGHTS i don't, Know, like what do you?
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: Want? YEAH i mean it was one sided in the
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: in that he was able to take him down at.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Will but also the problem Was sean fought that fight
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: with a fucked up hip and really probably shouldn't have
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: been fighting like he had a tear in his. Hip,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: yeah but we all have.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: Stuff of, COURSE i went to the fight With sean
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: injured coming into the. Fight he gets injured during the training,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: camp and then he uses THAT i had a busted.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: RIB i, go, bro we all have, stuff but you
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: were in a better position to win this fight THAN
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: i was coming into the.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Fight the same. Thing when he hurt his, HIP i don't.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Know but then they fought again and it was. Worse
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: it was. Worse so, Well morob was like super confident
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: coming in the second fight that he's gonna be able
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: to take him. Down and then also he had that
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: championship level. Confidence of, course you get that level, up
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: that level. Up.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah so it's like it's not Knocking, sean it's not
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: knocking the, fans but it's, like, yo this is the
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: game that we're. Playing no one's coming into. THIS i
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: was talking to the guys that waste so, Well they're,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: like it's fascinating how many of you guys.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Are so beating.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: Up i'm going down a list of my injuries and
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: EVERYTHING i got going. ON i was, LIKE i got
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: to m right for. THIS i got to m right for.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: This this hurting that's been bothering me for two. Years
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: this has been still, ongoing AND i still go fight
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: and you would never think, it but that's just what it. Is,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: like we gotta do what we gotta. Do we're never
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: gonna be one hundred percent going into. It like old, sports.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: Guys have fought in world championships with blown out knees and,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: won you. KNOW i mean When Alex pereira Beat Urie,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: prajasca he had a fucked up knee in the first. Fight,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: yeah and that's why when you see him get on
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: top of him when he's finishing, him he rolls over like.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Rolls instead of stepping up and standing, over he rolled
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: off of him because his knee was blown. Out Carlos, Oberg,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: yeah that was, crazy but that was On. Uri that
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: was such a, blunder such a Blunt, well That's yuri's
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: craziness where it's not. Good you, know some Of URI's
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: craziness is. Great like when he Fought, JAMAL i felt
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: for him so.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: BAD i did, too BECAUSE i was just, like it's
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: not LIKE i, SAID i wanted him to, win BUT
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: i felt for, him, like, damn you made the biggest
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: mistake that you could have possibly made in a situation like.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: That it's literally the only thing you can hit you,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: with fucking, hell and he lends it.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: With he can't he doesn't have a right. Leg his
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: right leg is completely. Gone but he could still throw
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: that left. Hook you, know that's his best punch.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: LIGHTNING i always tell people the way he leaves that
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: that he uh just leaves out that lead hand and
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: he's measuring stiff jab and he's stepping back and he
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: takes that side step pivot that el step in and.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Boom it's just he's clean with. That that division is
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: on fire right. Now how about novel hole star about
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: to say what happens with those two guys WHO i
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: know in the same?
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Camp, NO i, know he just be belohovid.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: What happens and he stopped. Him that was first RAY i.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Know watching that was. EXTRAORDINARY i was, like this kid is.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Something he's.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: Something.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Man that right hand was who the distance he covered
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: to land that right hand, Too And yawn's got a
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: chin made out of iron to Take yon out like
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: that and drop him like, that very very very. Impressive
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: he's forty three.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah so it's Also i'm not taking anything away
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: from but it's.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: LIKE i think that's how Old glover was when he beat. Him,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Really clover was like forty two when he won the. Title,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: fuck he was in his.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: Forties it's, doable it's, doable, easy but it's.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: Doable, yeah it's not normal. NORMAL i Mean glover was
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: the boogeyman for six years before he could ever get
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: to THE. Ufc everybody had talked About glover like he was,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: scary but he was trapped In. Brazil he couldn't visa,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: issues he couldn't get a visa to come To america and,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: fight and during those six years he might have been
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: the best light heavyweight on the.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Planet, YEAH i remember he told because when he got,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: signed he got signed pretty what is like late twenties maybe.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: THIRTIES i think he was in his. Thirties, Yeah AND.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't know about hiuntil he came over and made
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: that debut and it was Against Fabi Fabio. MALDONADO i
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: think maybe, hmm but, yes sometimes it just goes like.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: That even Like, prairie he came over so, late started so,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: late as you, say and for him to do what
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: he has done in such a short amount of time
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: is like, unreal.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Unreal, yeah pretty. Extraordinary how impressed were you With Cyril gone?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: Though Very how many heavyweights can move like?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: That? Dude? Zero and that's the whole thing with the
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: aspinall fight THAT i was. SAYING i was, Like, dude
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: this guy played. Basketball it's a different type of, athleticism
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: quick twitch, muscles knows how to, pivot fake hit his.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Jukes it's like, pliometrics like a giant man. Pliometrics.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and he's great at just holding the range
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: outside of the, eyepokes but great at holding the.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Range, also the dude never gets. Hit, yeah what was
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: the last time we SAW i, mean think About gone
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: is fighting in the heavyweight. Division he's fighting guys like
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: tie To. Vasa he's, fighting you, know these elite, guys
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: these big, heavyweights and you never see him get, cracked
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: even against In. GHANMENT i about to, say even Against,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: gone he did.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: It he didn't get.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: CRACKED i, mean that's kind of crazy that he's so
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: good at avoiding getting. Hit he's probably like the least
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: hit clean heavyweight in the.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: DIVISION i think that fight With John jones made people
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: think less of him than what he actually.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: Is it's just that's how Good John. Jones that's how
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Good John jones. Is especially If john gets a hold
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: of your, neck he's going to finish. It and the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: way he did, it you, know taking him down like
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: that in the first round and guillotining him in. Phenomenal
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: but it's just you have to deal with that speed
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: and that movement standing up before you could ever get
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: that to. Happen And john figured it. Out BUT i
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Think cyril has tightened up his takedown defense considerably since that. Fight,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: yeah BECAUSE i think he, realized, like this is the
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: big hole in his. GAME i know he brought in
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of real big, wrestlers but when it comes to,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: kickboxing when it comes to Muy, thai he's so hard
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: to fuck, with and he that style is different than
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: everybody else's. Style he's, nasty light on his. Feet he
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: does a weird thing too from his. Side, yeah that front,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: kick that twisting front kick from the front leg is
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: the way he.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: Stands he stands almost like this bladed but it's like
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: not really, bladed but it is and allows him to
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: have that dexterity and the flexibility where he could just
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: look like he's throwing a front.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: Kick but he's throws it's a twisting. Kick, yeah there's
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: a kick in taekwondo called a twisting, kick and that's
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: what it's. Like it's from this. Position you throw it
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: out like that with the ball the, foot so you're
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: standing completely sideways and your left your front leg comes
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: up and it twists and goes like. That and that's
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: what he's doing to the. Body he's throwing a twisting
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: front kick to the. Body it's. Nasty see if you
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: can find it in. Here, well that's his round, kick
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: but it's it's off of his front. Leg he throws
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: it off the front leg and he throws it completely.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Sideways and when you get to, moving he's. Gone and
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: then and also you might try to like overemphasize those
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: movements and he counters catching you coming in because he's
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: faster than. You and that's what he did To. Alex,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: yeah he caught him with. That he caught him with a.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: JAB i mean that's what he really rocked him. With
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: it was a right.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: Jab alex was, big that. Huge it's freaking. ASS i was, like,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: yo this is like, distracting. Bro you got a fucking
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: but dunk a. Dunk that's fucking blocking my vision of
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: the screen right, Now alex like move turned the other.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Way it was the worst matchup For alex to step into.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: HEAVYWEIGHT a guy who is bigger than him naturally moves
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: faster than him and lighter on his, feet and is
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: also an elite, striker a world championship caliber striker at
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: a heavyweight, level because like you, Know alex has been
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: one eighty.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: Five he's a thinner, guy and he.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Definitely put on masks to get up to two, fifty
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily where he was, naturally Whereas Cyrial
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: goun has a natural frame to be at two forty
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: eight and he's more.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: Stationary the stationary guys never do so well against the
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: guys who can move very. Well it's just hard for
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: you to chase him, down track him down to learn
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: the perfect.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Punch had a hard.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: Time i'm landing his calf, cakes which slows fights down
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: for him and allows him to land that big chama left.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: HOOK i don't know even if they were to have a,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: REMATCH i don't know what he would have to work
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: on to make that. Adjustment that's just a hard fight for.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Him it's always going to be a hard fight for
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: him Because cyril gone so, Agile he's so hard to. Hit,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: yeah he's never in front of you unless he caught,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: him like maybe through those high kicks right in the.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Beginning he could have caught him with something like that
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: and rocked, him and that would have been a different.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Story but he, didn't you. Know And cyril's like he's
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: great at blocking shit, too even if you get to.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Him his reflexes are. Excellent, Yeah and it's just that
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: movement and speed is. Extraordinary it would have been very
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens if The aspinall fight didn't
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: end the way it. Ended that was a. Heartbreaker it
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: was a.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: HEARTBREAKER i got a lot of flat for that because
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: people were SAYING i should have taken his side BECAUSE
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: i got a foul, too And i'm, Like i'm not
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: not taking his. Side What i'm saying is the only
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: person that knows how bad he, truly, like was, hurt.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Is going to Be.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: Aspinal, yes you, know so if he's saying, IT i
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: take it at face.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: Value it is what it.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: IS i can't go and Say i'm in your. Eyeballs
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: i've seen guys get poked all the, time and they, Continue,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: yeah we've seen it all the, time but not.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: All eye pokes are created.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: Equal, no and he got all them three stooge his
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: fingers up in, there and yeah it was, bad. TERRIBLE
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: i can only take away he's saying it was like
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: but again it's really up to.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Him can he have said if he was winning the,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: fight my pushback was devil's.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: Advocate if he was winning the fight and having his,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: way would he has, said you know, What i'm gonna
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: suck it up and try to fight through this even
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: THOUGH i still can't.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: See you never know if he, was if he was
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: HAVING i don't think he, Should and especially for a,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: FOUL i think it was he. Was he made one
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: hundred percent the right call because, look he didn't lose that.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Fight it was a. Foul although, controversial he doesn't get knocked,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: out he doesn't get head, kicked he doesn't get flying
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: head in the. Face if you can't see out of
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: one of your, eyes hard there's all sorts of ship
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: that's coming from this direction that you not gonna see,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Coming and in wild exchanges where your peripheral would catch
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: it and you would duck, under you're not going to
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: be able to see. It, yeah and you're gonna get.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Rocked and it's also you're, thinking, now oh my, GOD
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: i can't see out of one of my. Eyes fuck. That,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: yeah he did the right, Thing he did the right,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: thing AND i, think you, know he should have got more.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: Support he should have got more support from everybody for,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: that from. Everybody, YEAH i MEAN i try to give
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: him as much support AS i. COULD i think he
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: got fouled and they did the right. Thing AND i
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: think you got to take one point away every fucking
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: time someone touches an, eye one point every, time and
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: they won't do it.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: Anymore it looks like he's doing better now Where i'm
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: hoping he gets to compete again this.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Year two fucking eye, surgeries, Man so that remember when
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: you got knocked out ball and my? Eyes how in
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: the back of your head you're, like oh, SHIT i
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: can't get. Hit how about? Him two eyeball? Surgeries and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: now every time a finger comes towards his, eye he's
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: thinking about his, eyes losing his. Eye look At michael.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Bispaink he doesn't have an. Eye he has one eye that's, missing,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Right so you got to think, that AM i gonna
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: not Be i'm going to look at my kids through
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: one blurry eye for the rest of my.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: Life it's.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Fucked that's, fucked you. Know it's so for the. Being
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: the position that he's in right now is kind of.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: TERRIBLE i want to.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: Talk about The islam fights for this weekend for three.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: Thirty can we take a piss?
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Break, yeah take a pis. Break we'll be right back
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: and we're, Back. Jamie pull up that, card the one this,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: weekend so you take a look at. It, yeah what
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: do you think about The Ian Gary islam? Fight if
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: you had to, predict IF i had to, predict you're
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: like on THE ufc desk and they put you on the. Spot.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: Okay Islamaka cheff did a really good job neutralizing h jdm's.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: Boxing didn't really give him an opportunity to do. Anything
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: he chopped his legs away with the calf cakes control
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: them in the. Clinch the takedowns were relatively. Easy he
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: didn't really have to set it up with like. Hands
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: he kind of just shot and just took him. Down
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: and Will Ian, gary, now on the other, hand he's
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: done a good job of showing takedown. Resilience we saw
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: that With Bla mohammed Is Blah mohammed markat. Chef, No,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: no he's, Not, no but it definitely showed. Something he
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: did good job With shafcott as, well who was a bigger,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: guy was able to defend a bunch of.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: TIMES i forgot if it.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: Was shafkat who had his, back but he was able to.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: Defend shopcut is the guy who beat. Him So shafcott
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: is the one loss that he. Has and it was
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: the grappling That shapcott got him. With but he also
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: blew Out shopcott's. Knee, yeah like that's Why shapcott has
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: had all these. Surgeries that a blaque. Kick M that
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: kick is so. Nasty that's the one thing THAT i,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: wonder like should we not have?
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: That you don't, Like, JENNY i, remember you don't really
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: One it's you CAN'T i, mean you can defend it
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: by not getting hit by, it but the problem is
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: if you get hit by it Like Khalil rowntree And
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: modesta's pcaccas when he went turned his knee, sideways he
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: stomped that. Thing stop It and that's that's a career,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: changer like it could be a career Ender pucrascas came.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Back but this is two years, now right for shot
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: guy that he's been. Out, yep he's had multiple. Surgeries
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: he had it done and then it blew out again
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: and had to get it done. Again, YEAH i just
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: don't know the, range the reach.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: ADVANTAGE i Think ian does a great job of using
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: his ladder with. Footwork is not the fastest, guy, no
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: but what he is he's. Imposing he knows how to
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: cut you. Off That South paul STANCE i think causes
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: some problems for a lot of. People he's only lost
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: on one time to the to The Adriano martins with
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: the head qick knockout a?
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: Punch was it a? Punch?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: YEAH i got, Punched but either, WAY i Think ian's
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: gonna have to look to something like, that see if
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: there's maybe some of those Old tennessees that that punch
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: was able to. Land that was also such a younger
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: version Of. ISLAM i just don't see him making those mistakes. Again,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: yeah that was a long time. Ago how Does ian.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: Win he's gonna have to point fight and sit on
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: the outside and hope not to get tired going backwards
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: the whole, time and he got tired of doing that
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: Against carlo's. Protest so this is a tough one For.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: Gary can he get the upset of courses. Fighting we
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: just saw this With geige And tuporia THAT i would
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: Say islam has the one sure cut way to. Win
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: push him against the, cage take him, down and even
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: if he pusses him against the, Cage i'm curious to
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: know if curious to see If gary can do damage
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: in the. Clinch Whenever i'm in the clinch with, SOMEBODY
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: i always tell the, guys look for your knuckles and
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: hit the, eyeball hit the, nose hit the soft.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: Spots that's going to make this guy.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: Uncomfortable in the, clinch not looking for his foot sweeps
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: where he's, comfortable just resting on, you looking to set
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: up his, takedown his next. Transition AND i learned this
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: From Brian caroway my first pro loss in THE.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: Ufc after being five and, zero we.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: CLINCH i take him, down but in the, clinch While
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: i'm going for the single, LEG i have his leg
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: up in the. Air he's leaning over my back and
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: he's taking his knuckles and he's just hitting me in the.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: Eye swallowed my whole. EYE i was, like what the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: fuck is he hitting me? With AND i go back
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: AND i watch the tape AND i get to see
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: AND i learned. That SO i always like, show like
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: share these little tricks and stuff with guys When i'm teaching.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: Them so If gary could land some good damage in those,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: positions kind of Deter islam a little bit or make
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: him a little bit more sloppy on his, finishes it
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: could call some chaotic scrambles where he could potentially get
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: to a good position and maybe we See islam on
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: his back, again kind of like what happened With. Vogue
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: and when he was there With, vogue it did not look, good,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: Right and of course it's round, five.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: So it got to. Be there was also a fight
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: where the time was all fucked up and he didn't
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: have as much time to.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: Rehydrate oh, yeah they they did say something like.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: That it was not. Didn't he was compromised in that
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: fight because of, that because he didn't have as much
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: time to rehydrate because they're fighting In australia and they
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: were trying to fight on us.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: Time this one was the one That i'm really excited about,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: too Because jillian is so fucking good on the ground top,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: position even off of her. Back mackenzie durn is great
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: off her back the top position. Too she's more decorated
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: in terms of like the jiu jitsu. Space on the,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: feat she's more, reckless like she's throwing caution to the
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: wind because she doesn't. Care she's not afraid to get
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: her pretty face messed. Up she's gonna go in there
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: and go after.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: You she's just. Attacking.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah jillian on the other, hand not as physical on the,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: feet not a big, puncher not a big. Kicker she
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: sets everything up looking for the takedown or the clans
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: to take you, down get to the. Back but when
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: she gets there and she gets you, down she her
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: ground and.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Pound it's. Nasty the question is is she gonna be
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: able to do it to a world champion Like Mackenzie, durham.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: To a good position like some of those other. Girls
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: she gets the back mount or full mount and she's
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: able to land these solid elbows beat them up in that.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Position McKenzie's a jiu jitsu world chap. Exactly it's a,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: different different. World that's. Interesting it's gonna be. Interesting i'm
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: go to the other rest of the card go back
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: to it Because i'm interested to see How I'bdua malik
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: recovers from his last fight Against. Bulgary bulgary is a, monster.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Dude there's that's a guy in the one hundred and
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: eighty five pound division that's a real fucking. Problem, yeah
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: he's a world class. Striker he has a victory Over
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: perreira in. Glory yeah that is that's The, yeah that's the. Guy,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: yeah one victory and then he got starched in the.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: Rematch but the thing with With maleik is he was
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: trying to go for the, takedowns but the setups were
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: like in my opinion from a rest, Standpoint SO i
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: may be a little bit unfair with this, criticism BUT
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: i just didn't think they were that.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Good and he was also dealing with striking that was
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: like way above and beyond. Him, Yeah and that was
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: part of the, problem is that in the, transitions like
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: trying to get close to, him you're dealing with the
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: guy was. Gigantic he's one of the tallest guys in the.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: Division he's so fucking big for one eighty, five so
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: long and salt, tall and on top of, it world
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: class striker and he's coming into his own as AN mma.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: Guy and part of the reason is because he's down
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: there In connecticut with With glover and With alex and
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: he's doing camps with those. Guys so like his grapplings
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: now on, point much more confident on the, feet much more.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Stable but before THAT i Thought manzer was a real
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: potential world. Champion, yes but it's just so.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: Crazy you can see somebody in one fight AND i
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: see him in the next. One you're just, like all,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: right it was a bad loss To it.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: Was a Bad it wasn't. Good it was a lot
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: of like see if you can find that, fight leg, caicks,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: Jabs he got beat, up so it Was the thing
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: was the amount of damage that he, took because he's so,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: tough the amount of damage he took before they stopped
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: the fight was pretty. Extraordinary there was a lot of.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: DAMAGE i was hoping he could get the fight down
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: at least, once, right but, yeah he. Couldn't it Was,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: uh it was a Tough.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys at one eighty five that
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: are a fucking, problem, MAN a lot of guys at
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: eighty five that are a real.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: Problem but we need that and those divisions because those
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: divisions have been so thin for so. Long like there's
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of, guys, right but now you're starting to
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: see more like even like the lower way. Classes a
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: guy who's unranked Like Ethan ewan right, right and you're,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: Like i'm excited about this division BECAUSE i want to
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: see how far he could. Go you got a guy
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: like Man sore AND i can't say the other guy's,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: Name Abdul, No, Gary.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: Gary you got these two. Guys how about that? Motherfucker,
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: yeah he puts guys in the. Orbit he put our,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: Guy Asi diez the last. One, yeah tough. One there's
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: a tough. One, yeah this is the. FIGHT i, Mean
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: menser is so tough that he was able to keep
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: this fight going where a lot of guys would have
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: got taken out. Early but, he's, yeah the elbows in the, clinch,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: everything he's just getting.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: Destroyed you see how he's even trapping the wrists and
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: then stepping in with the punches or stepping in with.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: The, elbows clean right hand. Elbow it's Just menser is
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: so tough, Man he's so. Tough he's just absorbing so
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: much punishment and finally they stop. It but before he
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: waited for.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: Him get out of here before the.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: STOPPAGE i think that was an end of AN i
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: don't even know if that was the end of the.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: Round that wasn't the actual. Stoppage so if you keep
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: going in the, fight it gets even. WORSE i, mean
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: the thing about stand up is when you're dealing with
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: a guy who's a world championship kickboxer and you can't
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: take him down and he's got really good takedown defense
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: and he's got a reach, advantage it's like everything possible
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: that's terrible about what could happen is going? On oh that.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: Split right, Hand oh my, Goodness oh my, God i'm.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: Surprising his flace plane after. That, well he's so tough,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: Man but the the durability and but the toughness is
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: the problem is you get so many holes punched in
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: your card in one. Fight in one, fight whereas if
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: you got hit with one, shot one big shot is.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Bad he get taken, out but is not as bad
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: as a prolonged beating over three. ROUNDS i always SAY
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: i called him.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: Dings there's only so many dings you can have your.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: Career because this is this is the. Final his body
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: just couldn't as tough as he, is and he's so.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: Tough but the problem is that's the kind of fight
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: where in boxing you wouldn't have if you were a
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: manager and he was your, guy you would not have
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: had him fight him at this stage of his, career
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: not at. All this is not a fight for you right.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: Now we've got to really get our striking. Better we've
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: got To there's there's growth to be had before you
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: fight that. Guy but you got to know.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: That AND i think sometimes, fighters we could be so
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: egotistical right that. WAY i could beat, Anybody but sometimes
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: it's nice to be, like you know, WHAT i could beat,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: him but just not right. Now let me beat somebody.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: Else we'll get there when we get. There but it
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: takes THE ufc does not give you that. Opportunity THE
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: ufc is like here's the.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: Wolves you can say, no though you, can but you
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: might get shelved for a long fucking time if you say.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: No and a lot of guys know, that and they
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: also know some guys have taken advantage of those. Opportunities
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: those short Notice John, Jones John jones GOT i, mean
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: what was the fight With? Showgun it was very short.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: Notice after he just be. In, oh, man who did he?
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Beat he beat, everybody but who did he?
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: Beat Rashaan evans had just gotten hurt and then he
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: stepped in and taken and took that one.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: Right for the title. Exactly and that's when him And
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: rashad were training. Partners and that shows the wildness Of.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: John he's fighting, showgun who's a, legend who's the light heavyweight?
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: Champion opens with a flying, knee yeah at twenty two
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: and beats him, down beats him down and wins the.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: Title he has to be, studied, listen, man he should
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: be coaching for, sure definitely should. BE i mean he
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: is now With, Gable, Yeah gable steveson Is he's a
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: real fucking. Problem but the other thing is.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: This you could show all the technique in the, world
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: AND I i always say it comes back down to
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: what do you do when you're in there under those bright?
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: Lights and that's the most important. Thing and if you
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: can't dial it, in it's a scary place to be BECAUSE.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: I can't make you.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: Confident you could be as confident as you want when
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: you're talking to, me but only you truly.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Know it's, like what's really going.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: On between those, ears you. Know so that's where it
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: gets like, tricky it.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: Does it gets very. Tricky it gets very, tricky and it's.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: Complicated AND i, mean there's only so much a mental
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: coach can teach you on how to handle those. Situations
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: they can give you some, tools but EITHER i, MEAN
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: i think it's something that's born out of your. Life excuse,
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: me you like mental. COACHES i think there's nothing wrong
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: with tightening up every single aspect of your. Game, HOWEVER
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: i don't think they could fix a leaky. Boat, yeah
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: what do you? THINK i think that you don't like metal.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: COACHES i think it's a chicken. ARMOR i think it's
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: a chicken. Omer IF i know you have a mental,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: coach you come for that.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: Ass, okay but what if you found out That Aleschandre
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: pantosia had a mental coach as savage as that dude
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: is good for?
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: HIM i might be, Like.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: Okay he's not fighting, me, Right but you know What i'm.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: Saying that's What i'm.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Saying but you know What i'm, Saying, like imagine if
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: you found out Pure To yawn had a mental. Coach that's,
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: cool but you know What i'm, saying like if a
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: guy is elite already and already a dog and you
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: give him just some different things to concentrate. ON i
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with. It WHAT i think,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: is if you need, it it shows me that there's an,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: issue and sometimes that issue can never be. Fixed there's
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: some guys that when the going gets, tough they find
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: a way.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: Out that's that's Where i'm getting. AT i agree with,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: you if you need, it there's nothing wrong with. It
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: BUT i also know that there's a place in there
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 3: that IF i could get the right key to unlock that,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: door be. Bad.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i think you're. RIGHT i think you're, Right
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: AND i don't. KNOW i, Mean Sean brady had a mental,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: coach and, uh you, know there's moments Where Sean brady
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: is a motherfucker, right like The Woking buckley, fight like holy, shit,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: dude oh my, god. Extraordinary but Then. Morales but the
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: problem Is morales is a fucking light. Heavyweight he's, huge.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: Gigantic you want to talk about the one guy that
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: is like the poster boy for cutting, weight It's. Morales
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: he's so big for one seventy it's it doesn't even make. Sense,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: yeah you see him in the, Octagon you're, like that's
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: a light heavyweight or at the very least a very
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: big middle. Weight, yeah for, sure he's a big, dude
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: and he's walter. Weight and seeing him And brady in,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: THERE i was, like this is.
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: Not the same weight. Class it seemed like it. Wasn't
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 3: he got the he got a big. Back but look.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: What brady did to a former world Champion On, edwards
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: who's a good. GRAPPLER i, Mean leon took down Kamarro.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: Usman leon can. Grapple he's a good, grappler but there's
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: levels And Sean brady's on another level when it comes to,
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: That and what he did To buckley was just. Bananas
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: it looked like he was in a training, room you,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: know right when he was on top of, him it
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: was look like he was like working a heavy bag.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: Drill it was. Crazy, YEAH i got no fear whatsoever
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: of getting shook. Off it's, like there is not a
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: chance in hell you're getting me off of, You So
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: i'm just gonna work my cardio and beat your.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: Ass which is fascinating because he's so strong and, explosive
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: you think he'd be able to get up two twenty Three.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: Pro he's weighing and for the as the backup for this.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: Fight so he's cutting. Weight this.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: Is.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: Heavyweight he's a. Heavyweight, yeah but that's probably after. Training,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: yeah you know he's really over two. HUNDRED i guarantee you.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: NO i see him in. Person he's a big. MOTHERFUCKER
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: i was making one seventy and his power is fucking.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: Extraordinary he has to cut twenty or more pounds this. Week,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: yeah but, listen he can do. It he's, young he's
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: done it before he started. Out he was a. Wrestler
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: that's his original. Discipline, Really, yeah he knows how to cut.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: WEIGHT i didn't know that wrestling in, JUDO i, believe
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: go find His. Wikipedia he can, grapple, Man that's the.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: Thing you don't see it from, him which is.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 3: CRAZY i see his, Videos, yeah not the one where
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 3: he's dressed up as a.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: GIRL i think that's a tradition down.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: There.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: YEAH i know they get. SILLY i know it's a
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: little low in, case it's a LITTLE i think they.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: Do it's a traditional thing they do down. THERE i
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: don't understand, it BUT i don't Have i've never Seen
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: cheetos doing judo since he was five years. Old, yeah
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: see there you. DO i want to see him in his.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: Loan his mother was what third dan judo black? Belt,
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: yeah she was forty.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: Two.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: Wow he switched to wrestling when he was. Ten, yeah
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: watch out from a little. Mama so he's got a
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: background in, grappling that's where he started. Out but the thing,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: is the dude's got lightning in his. HANDS i want
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: to see him in HIS i want to see him
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: In carlos. Protests that's WHAT i want to. See, fuck,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: YES i JUST i want to see his. Protest is the.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: TRUTH i just Don't that dude scares the fuck out of.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: ME i don't want to buy knock each other. Off
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: YET i understand what you're. Saying see that's what gets,
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: hard because that's one great world championship, fight you, know
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: and we'll see what. Happens. Listen If islam may, RETIRE
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: i can feel. HIM i can feel he may. Retire
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: he's done a, lot He's he's competed in two different
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: weight classes and won world championships and two different weight.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: Classes if he Beats, ian if he Submits ian and
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: Says i've had, Enough i'm gonna do What kabib, did
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: And i'm going to coach. NOW i could see, that
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: and THEN i could see morales and protests for the
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: fucking undisputed. Title, yeah that's the. Protest scares a fuck
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: out of, me, dude because he's to, me he's the
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: scariest because he does weird shit in, there where like
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: he sets you up with, stuff like he does that
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: set up where he fakes a punch and dives in
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: with that left knee of the. Body, yeah. Nasty and
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: his punching power is fucking, crazy Man al why his
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: hands it down, here hands down there and having, fun having, fun,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: Relaxing like WHEN jdm took him, down he's, like why
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: why are we? Wrestling my? Friend people don't want to see,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: Wrestling come, on let me.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: Up but jdm's the. BOXES i thought it was gonna
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 3: be more. Competitive jdm's pretty. Complete you.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: KNOW jdm supposedly in The islam, fight had a really bad.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: Back it was pretty fucked up and really struggled with
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: the wrestling getting ready for that. Fight that's the. Word
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: and you, know even if he, didn't there's, levels And
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: islam's level is the highest. Level he's the highest level
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: when it comes to. Grappling there's no one high in
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: that division Than. Islam his fucking his squeeze is. Extraordinary
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: SO i want to train with those.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: Guys, yeah just give me a, week, one two weeks
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: and forget.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: Send the guess that two years.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 3: Forget that'd be good with.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: That would you want to go down there and train
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: with those?
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 3: GUYS i would go down for a. Bit why don't
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: you go DOWN i got, THIS i got the, CIGARS
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: i got my training. PARTNERS i.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: Understand but the time is of the. Essence there's not
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: much time. Left if you want to find, out you ask. Me,
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: NOW i know you can't go down there.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: When you're forty or Maybe i'm Like Mighty. Mouse When i'm,
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 3: RETIRED i go train. Everywhere Or, George George Saint pierre does.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: That he's down here all the time training With Gordon. Ryan,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: yeah that'd be, fun you.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: Know But george is like a real martial, artist you
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i, mean like never got out of. Shape
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: he's the. Man he's the, man and he's so. Cool
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: he was he you, know he plays chess at a
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: really high. LEVEL i played.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: Chess you play chess? Too pchs about a fourteen. Hundred
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: i'm about a thirteen fifty to fourteen twenty.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: Elo is that?
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: Good it's supposed to be, good decent for, Like i'm
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: not like a grand, master which is like twenty five
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: hundred or some.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: Shit or how often do you? Play every? Day really every?
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: Day BUT i play five minute games because it's similar
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 3: to like a, Fight like you gotta know and make your,
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 3: strategies make your. Attacks some guys they play ten minute.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: Games i'm, like, Bro i'm too busy to play ten minute.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: GAMES i gotta where did you? LEARN i started playing AFTER.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: Covid DURING, covid When Queen's gambit came. Out, AH i
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: used to think chess was, like, oh that's a gay
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: that's a gay. Thing it's like so. Stupid play check
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 3: is like a, Man AND i played checkers like a.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: Man this dumbest Thing i've ever.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: Heard THEN i realized really. QUICK i was, like, oh
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: this is this is some high level. Shit this is
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 3: not for stupid. People this is for, Intellects like you
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: have to understand what you're actually, doing strategize and setting
• 2:10:43
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• 2:10:44
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• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: U kann's hilarious comedian From australia And. Georgia And james
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: is very smart and really good chess, player And george
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: and him we're going to war in the green room
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: of the other ship and we were all like boroh,
• 2:11:01
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• 2:11:05
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• 2:11:07
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• 2:11:11
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• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: Scared i'm scared to. Play. Yeah, yeah it's it's.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: Addicting that's the. Problem it's because then you want to
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 3: you want to know the, openings you want to know the.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: Strategies you want to. Know, okay IF i do this
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 3: sacrifice and there's so Many now.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: Did you learn by reading? Books did you learn by watching?
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: Videos how'd you?
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: LEARN i downloaded the app DURING covid and that was,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 3: it that was.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: Houcked and so how did you learn how to move.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: The? Game so the game you could start like beginner,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: level it tells you what pieces like does what like
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: The punk can only go for it could only capture,
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 3: sideways The night can only do like this l shape
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: thing forward.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: Backwards so you just learned from the? App, yeah oh.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: Wow and THEN i started watching videos and THEN i
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: was watching hour long videos and. TUTORIALS i was The
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: hooks are In.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: Bro we Had Magnus carlson on the podcast And tony
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: sat in with, it because you, Know tony, plays and
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: it was like watching a guy and talking watching his
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: mind move and just talking to him about how he
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: does it and how he, strategizes and you, know he's
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: the greatest of all. Time so having him like explain
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: the game to, you just, go. Whoa there's just so
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: many there's so many, moves it's so, complex there's so
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: much going, on there's so many series steps in advance you're.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: Playing it's. Cool, yeah it's. Cool but it's something you
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: can play forever, too regardless of your physical. Ability you,
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: know you don't have to ever worry about getting out
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: of shape to play.
• 2:12:42
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• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 2:12:46
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• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: and that's where they. Learned that's when they learned how to,
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: play and we'd play from time to. Time but THEN
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 3: i come to find out like they were really good
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: at the time.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i wasn't really.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: GOOD i thought it was, good BUT i really. Wasn't
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: and it really QUICKLY i, Realized, oh these guys really
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 3: they like the, level you, know so it's very intellectual.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 3: Game that's WHY i really really enjoyed.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: It WHEN i was playing pool In New, york there
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: was this kid who was a young player who was
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: like when he was really. Young he was playing tournaments
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: all over the. Place he was like really. Good and
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: there was a dude who got out of prison and
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: learned how to play in his head in prison because
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: they didn't have a. Board and so this kid and
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: this old dude were sitting there playing chess in their
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: head and they would call out the moves and they
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: had the whole board. MAPPED i was. FASCINATED i was,
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: like this is that's.
• 2:13:38
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• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: Do, yeah and you also have to agree where the pieces,
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: are you know WHAT i. Mean i'm not that. Good
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: you got to rely on and you, know this one
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: guy had played so many times in prison in his
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: head that he could keep track of the entire.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 3: Board and this kid was a wizard at.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: It and watch these two guys call out moves and
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: just sitting there stack at each. Other they try to
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: figure out who's. Winning i'm, like you guys just playing
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: an invisible. Board this is. Crazy, yeah that's that's next.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: Level that was my first introduction to. CHESS i was,
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: Is, nuts.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: Man you want to try the Silver, Sure i'll try.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 3: IT i still have some of this left.
• 2:14:15
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• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: Go it's still chilled, Too SO i like this one.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: Chilled you do have to do like a green tea.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: Shot what's a green tea? Shot it's like with bourbon with.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: Whiskey it's like a little some. Tea, yeah they call
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: it green. Tea you see a lot of the girls
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: they drinking at the bars and. Stuff so we did
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 3: this with like a we call it silver.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: Tea it's a silver.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 3: Room what is rum made with? Sugarcane sugarcane or? MOLASSES
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: i think the other one's.
• 2:14:51
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• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: they find a way to get fucked.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 3: Up, yeah from the pirates of The. Caribbeans is that? What?
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: No, no but that's what the pirates are. Drink why did
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: why are? Pirates why were they so into?
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: RUM i, SAID i couldn't tell.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: You you know WHAT i.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: Don't.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: Know that's like rum is like. Associated they probably learned
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: from The, caribbean, right that's where it, originated, Right.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah you get it from sugarcane plants and the whole distillation.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: Process this is like poste and. Column still for both
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: of these is just A jamaican, blend like some of them.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: Are mostly pirates did drink, rum but the stereotype is,
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: exaggerated so it's. Perplexing during much of the sixteen, Hundreds
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: caribbean pirates often drank wine and. Brandy more, Commonly rum
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: became far more available and popular in the early seventeen
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: hundreds As caribbean sugar production. Expanded how that makes, Sense
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: yoho ho and a bottle of. Rum you know WHAT i.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 3: Never understand is like we know the big players in
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 3: the rum, market Like, Bacardi Captain morgan Is. Malibu but
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: when we go on, vacation we go to The, caribbeans
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: we drink all the different RUMs from the, islands AND
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: i always tell people like you have such a great
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 3: time drinking, Rum like why don't we bring that, here
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: that to our culture and make it more of a
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: inclusive thing versus just only WHEN i go on, vacation
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: that's the only time it's really associated AND i, GO
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: i want to change that that narrative and let people
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: rum is for year. Round you could have sipping. Rum
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 3: you can have it For vegas pool, parties you can
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 3: have it with a. Cigar like there's so many different
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: ways you can enjoy. It it's not just for vacation.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: Time it's for.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: ME i want this to be something that makes you
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 3: feel like you're back on the. Island and we want
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: to make sure this was one hundred Percent Jamaican. Rum
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: didn't want to piss off my people In jamaica because
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 3: that's the one thing when we were doing, This SO
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: i went through the whole, process like the, branding the.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: Labeling my money invested in, it so it's like actually my.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 3: Company but with that, said one of the THINGS i
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: spoke to some of the guys at the at the,
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: distilleries the one we went to mainly Was Worthy, park
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 3: and they were, saying the main thing you don't want
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: to do is call Something Jamaica. Room if it's not
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: one hundred, percent you make. It AND i was, LIKE
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: i had a, feeling BUT i want to make, sure
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 3: so we didn't tow that line and piss anybody. Off
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 3: so it's been a fun project and we've been having
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 3: a good time just getting some bigger distributed distributors and.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 3: Stuff we should get one In california. SOON i Got
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: Kevin folkler From King. Seafood he has a bunch of
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 3: restaurants down In cali In. Vegas he brought us, in
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: but he's A Long island. Guy he heard me talking
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: about it on The aerial show and reached out AND
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: i thought it was like a prank. EMAIL i was,
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: like let me just see where it, goes and it
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: turns into. SOMETHING i was, Like, oh this is actually
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: a legit, guy actually had a legit business and. Everything
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: and it's been.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: Cool so this has been, fun my passion. Project what's
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: a smart thing to do to prepare for your retirement,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: too to have a real legitimate business, going like as
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: you're still, Fighting.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's not just my name on a label like
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: trying to do a quick money rap or anything like.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: That so that's. Awesome so where are you right now
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: in terms of like your next? Fight are you in
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: a holding? Pattern, yeah everyone's got a.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: Fight larn's the only guy who would make the most
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: sense in my. Opinion but LIKE i, SAID i heard
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: he was. HURT i Think Diego lopez is supposed to
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 3: have somebody he's he's fighting lightweight, now that's WHAT i.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: HEARD i Heard dial was moving, up which makes sense
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 3: because he's.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: Big he's a big. Dude he's. Big and after he
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: Beat Steve, garcia which was a crazy, FIGHT i got
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: my thoughts on. That what's?
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 3: UP i got my thoughts on. That what are your
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: thoughts on?
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: That think about it while you're lighting that, cigar Pau
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: so coming for that. Ass i'm coming on that.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 3: ASS i still remember.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: THAT i still get those messages till this.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: Day.
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: Bro it's the funniest. THING i just, Like, yeah you
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: just got done with a. Fight what are you gonna?
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: Do my adrenaline was through the.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 3: Roof i'm on cloud. NINE i just submitted the boogeyman
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: of the. Division even back, then my MANAGERS i heard
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 3: talk that they thought he was gonna be the first
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 3: champ for their management. Company AND i took that as
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 3: As Michael jordan would, SAY i took that ship, personal
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: you know, So And i'm so GLAD i proved the.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: Point and, YEAH i was just a whole another. Level but,
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah lorona's. Out garcia just. Lost Arnold allen just had
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: a great fight With. Costa, uh he lost To Gene
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 3: silver before.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: That most are.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 3: Invoke we know THAT i fought most already And.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: Jean silver's got to fight too, now, right he's supposed
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: to be fighting your years at, least those are the
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: RUMORS i saw circulating. That that's, right that's an interesting.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: Fight that would be fun one.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: Yr he is always a wild, card. DUDE i was gonna,
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: say his.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 3: Kicks there's a GUY i don't want to, fight is
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 3: that motherfucker BECAUSE i know what the kicks, do And i'm,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want TO i don't want to be
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 3: on the receiving end of. That his kicks are, crazy
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 3: baseball basket and swing at your and.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: He's so Dex he's got so much, Dexterity like he
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: can whip those kicks around from. Anywhere he's so light
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: on his. Feet, man those kicks are. Extraordinary, yeah he's
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: one of the best kickers in the.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 3: Sport people THINK i have like a kicking, Background, like,
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 3: NO i just watched a lot OF vhs tapes WHEN
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: i was a kid and played.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: White, Tiger White lion and all that.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 3: Stuff with my brother's growing up to. Kick, basically we
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: just really see what we did on the on THE
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: tv and just start imitating in and we have these.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: Battles i'm a family of, twenties SO i got a huge. Family,
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 3: wow that's, crazy that's. Huge. Yeah, well the, boys we
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 3: we went.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: To war with each, other and you just learned from watching.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: Movies we learned from watching.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: Movies we didn't we didn't do anything traditional like no
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 3: martial arts traditional.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: Background so when did you first like get like someone
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: teach you technically how to.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 3: KICK i forget the guy's, name but WHEN i was
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 3: At Team bomb squad In New, york WHEN i was
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 3: in college AND i was just starting off as an
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 3: amateur in early, pro we had this Muy thai guy
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: come up stone SOMETHING i want to, say but, uh
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 3: that's a.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: First he was working With John.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 3: Jones he was the first guy like Showing john the,
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: elbows the knees and. Stuff and that's WHERE i first
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 3: first started learning how to do like Traditional Muay thai.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 3: Kicks THEN i worked with this other guy Named Primo Bella.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 3: Rose he was really good for me to work With
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 3: irish guy had a ton Of muytai, fights and then
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: WHEN i came To Long, ISLAND i didn't really have
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 3: like A i still don't even have like a set
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 3: Mouy thai instructor or anything like. THAT i just kind
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 3: of know WHAT i know from back, then AND i
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: kind of just blended in where it makes.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: SENSE i know you train In vegas sometimes. Too i've
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: seen you at you live. There, wow what made you
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: decide to do?
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 3: That and my home is always going to be In New,
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 3: york BUT i live In vegas. Now it's the fight
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 3: capital of the. World business for me over, there it's
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: doing really really.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: Well and is it because you get more training, partners more,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: chargners more coaching and you know we're still a.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 3: Syndicate, NO i. Was morale was at, syndicate.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i would go to, Syndicate that's WHERE i saw you.
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 3: Training, YEAH i would go.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: Down there to help him out for his. FIGHTS i
• 2:22:10
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• 2:22:11
  Speaker 3: Se that's WHY i trained with first With nick Sic
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: the training times were a little bit odd for. Me
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: it was like three thirty pro classes and stuff like.
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 3: That BUT i think the sport's still kind of. Backwards
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: people doing all these. CLASSES i think in the beginning is,
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: good BUT i think eventually you have to get to
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 3: that one on. One Elliott, Toporia, O'Malley henry C udo
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: a mighty.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: Mouse the way these guys are doing. It Even wailward
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: structured training camps like for you like a boxing, camp,
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: Right and even WHEN i was back home In New,
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: york that's basically how we essentially rent.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: It you, KNOW i was running all the stuff that
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: we were, doing and you, Know rain those guys would
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: come down and for, sparring AND i go To sarah's FOR,
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: bjj working a lot With Jason Jason rowe who's got
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 3: his own school now. TOO i don't know if you know,
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 3: him but he's he's like The boogeyman everyone talks about
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: in the train, room but for some reason in, competition
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 3: he's just never really showed what he can truly. Do
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 3: but he's so, talented could walk you through everything and
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 3: explain everything at a high. Level but, yeah that's that's
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: kind of HOW i ran. Everything but it's, centered, focused
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 3: AND i felt like that's the best our gym was
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 3: on a run where everyone was killing the.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: Game so is it also because My rob's In, vegas
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: that you wanted to go To.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 3: VEGAS i. WENT i moved before, him really and then
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 3: he moved in and he found a house right next to.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: Me oh, perfect that's, amazing literally like across the street
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 3: from each.
• 2:23:33
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• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: and where are you? Training, What, jimmy you trained at
• 2:23:38
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• 2:23:41
  Speaker 3: Place it's a brand new before it was kind of
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 3: like No Mad's. Land we're training most of the classes
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: at THE. Pi but you can't charge, anybody, right you're
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 3: using someone else's, facility so you can't be running a
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: class and on top of that charging, people and so
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: that whole. Thing so my Coach mattaeus was eventually able
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: to find a. Place and now just about all the
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 3: the undergraduate now, graduates most of them are just about
• 2:24:04
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• 2:24:07
  Speaker 3: we Have Dioni, barbosa we Have John Paul. LAMBOLSON i
• 2:24:10
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• 2:24:12
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• 2:24:18
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  Speaker 1: Signed.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 3: Uh he had that debut Against atari The, georgian which
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 3: was also a friend of mine who's kind of sucked
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 3: watching that fight BECAUSE i was, LIKE i don't want
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 3: to see nobody get.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: HURT i don't see nobody Lose.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 3: Ozzie diaz AND i Think morob is now gonna be
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: shifting over to doing most of his. Camp he's still
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: gonna be working With, syndicate but he's gonna be doing
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 3: most of his camp with US.
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 1: Uh and there's a few of. That i'm sorry If
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: i'm missing some other.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 3: People.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: Don't don't be mad at. Me i'm.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 3: Sorry i'm just a, man no.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: Worries and so you Have matthias not Not mattias From. London,
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: no what What's mattias's last?
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 3: Name. Nakashi he's from Nov he grew up with hold
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 3: on those, Guys Hennon, Barraw Johnny. Dualdo he's, like, bro
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 3: you fight all My brazilian, friends you beat all my.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 3: Coaches BECAUSE i Beat Johnny, DUALDO i Fought Henning barra beat,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 3: him and he's, like, BRO i REMEMBER i was there
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: and you beat my.
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: Coach it's like fuck.
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 3: It, Sorry i'm, sorry.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: But it's a good. Gym you know what it.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 3: Is it's a lot of the drills that we do
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 3: even in the, classes it's.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: Practical we're not doing eight ten punch.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 3: Combinations we're doing real, life practical, stuff scenarios that happens
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 3: in the. Fight SO i don't mind doing the classes with,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 3: this BUT i also like to do my one on ones,
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 3: afterwards especially when his fight specific that we need to work,
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 3: on AND i think they do a good.
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: Job now you were saying you have thoughts on The
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: Steve garcia oh, low best fight? Again another. PAUSE i
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: went up for my. Boys, yeah, Yeah Steve. FORD i
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: always Said steve is the dark horse of the. Division
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: he looks so good in the early.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: Going, bro if you watch some of his other, fights
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: the one fight the few fights he lost where he
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 3: was knocked out was him just being more reckless than
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 3: he probably should have. Been big frame for the way,
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 3: class his reach is fucking, stupid, crazy, long crazy. Kicks
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: when he gets you on the, ground his ground of
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 3: pound is, ferocious like almost reckless to a. Point, right
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 3: and then he's fighting a super smart fight With Diego.
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 3: Lopez Diego lopez now comes out for round. Two he
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 3: flips the switch and, says fuck this technical shit and
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 3: just pulls him into a barn. Fight and, man he
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 3: clipped him and he's been knocked out, before, Right so
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 3: if there's any away a guy who has a greenite
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 3: chin who could rely on it is a.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: Guy Like Diego.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: Lopez AND i even SAID i Saw Diego lopez at
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 3: THE pi AND i told, him was, like congrats on the.
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 3: Fight so we had a little little, beef but it
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 3: was it was more so about who should have gotten
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 3: a title. SHOT i thought he was gifted a title. Shot, okay,
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: cool the second, one you mean the first? ONE i
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 3: thought it should have been Most the second one was.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: Real the second one was ridiculous to make any. Sense
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 3: but congrats to.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: Him do you think they gave him the second one
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: as a gift because he's he fought short?
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 3: Notice?
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: Possibly, yeah it kind of seems like. That this one
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: don't like.
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 3: Me but my whole thing is that's why we kind
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 3: of bumped. Heads we did train together one. Time we were,
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 3: friendly cordial and the whole, nine and, uh that kind
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 3: of set a.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: Little riff in the relationship a little.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: Bit we both thought AT uc three, hundred we took
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: a bat a picture in the.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: Back but that's that's HOW i.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: Said it's LIKE i always speak my mind and on,
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: things and sometimes it gets me in trouble and turned
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 3: to a whole thing with his manager and myself And
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 3: twitter beef and all this whole. Thing AND i thought
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 3: the fight should have went To mozart just being fair
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: based on merits should have gotten it tied up the
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 3: division jammed up fights that probably should have been different, directions,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 3: Right BUT i, THOUGHT i told, him, congratulations you for
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 3: a smart. Fight you pulled him into your style of,
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 3: fight and that's how he got the job. Done if
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 3: he fought him on a technical standpoint like, THAT i
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: Think diego would have probably ran away with. It not
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 3: The Go.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: Garcia, Garcia, well he just unfortunately when when When lopez
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: started chasing after, him he engaged in that kind of yeah,
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 1: yeah and that's what he.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 3: Does i'm, like If i'm Fighting, Diego i'm not doing that. Ship,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah i'm SURE i could take a, punch but that
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 3: guy's got, mits there's one and he knows he could
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 3: rely on his. Chin and he's probably looking at me,
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: LIKE i don't think this guy can knock me, out
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 3: So i'm gonna risk.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: It, Right so square, jaw, dude you have.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 3: To understand what you're getting Into and that's WHAT i
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 3: was saying before about like some of these, guys you
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 3: have to understand.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: Thyself when you look At, diego that's. Good diego looks
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: like he's designed to take a. Shot, yeah like one
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: of The Mark hunt type, chins you, know designed to
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: take a.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: Shot so that's WHY i, go, like IF i were
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 3: to fight, him, LIKE i know HOW i would approach the. Fight,
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 3: obviously the path of the least resistance for me is
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 3: always gonna be the. Ground but he's he's good on the, ground,
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 3: too very.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 1: Good he almost Got. Evilov remember the knee, bar the
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: triangle arm. Bar, yeah you could make a argument that
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: he could have won that fight because he was closer
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: to finishing multiple. Times and those should. Count those submission.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: Attempts close submission attempts should count in a big. Way
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: and just because the guy got out of it doesn't
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: mean he was almost dead like. That that's that means a.
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: Lot that means just as much as rocking a. Guy
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: it should it, Should but judges or, judges that's a
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: bad aspect of judges because it's very difficult to get
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: to a position like that where you're almost submitting a
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: guy multiple. Times, yeah like those are those were like
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: very close and if you were looking at that in
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: terms of a jiu jitsu, perspective, like, yeah he's got the.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 3: Advantage so that's why that would be a tough fight for.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 3: Me but it's THE i want to fight the biggest,
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 3: names and When diego's moved.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: Up So diego's fifty five, now, yeah from WHAT i,
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: understand which makes sense because he's fucking. Big it was
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: probably a real struggle for that dude to get down
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: to forty. Five, yeah a real. Problem, yeah but fifty
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: five is such a fucking lion's tend. Too what did
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: you think of The Tuporia gaygee. FIGHT i thought it
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: was amazing man like For gechie to come. Out it
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of The Tony ferguson. Fight, right
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: The boogeyman did what he needed to, do had a
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 1: perfect game, plan and What gateschie said was the most
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: spot on. THING i was talking to one of my.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 3: Friends they said they Liked gateschi on the, podcast but
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 3: they were, LIKE i thought he came off a little
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 3: like a little cocky or.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: ARROGANT i was, LIKE i was, like as he fucking.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 3: Should he's the world was trying to shit on him
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 3: and gave him no chance to win the. Fight if
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 3: anyone who relates to that as, ME i understand exactly
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: where he's coming. From fuck let him fucking talk of,
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 3: shit because if the other guy. Won best believe he
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: would have been his white, rose like he said he
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: was gonna. Do he's had beef with his, dad, like
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of built up, animosity whether it was, fake,
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 3: whatever it was, There so let him have his time
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 3: in the.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: Sun so but with the, FIGHT i thought He the
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: thing he.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 3: Said that made the most sense to me that resonated
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: was he changed people's perception of the. Fighter where before
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 3: people were kind of going in there, hesitant, scared and
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: they kind of knew what they were walking into and
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 3: it was going to be a bad. Night and going
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: in there doing that To ferguson Change ferguson's.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: Career going in there doing.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 3: This is To. Taporia Can't taporia bounce back and be
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 3: the same guy and had that same, aura same persona
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: that people are gonna step in the octagon with him
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: and be a little hesitant to want to go in
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 3: there with him because of what he's done in the,
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 3: past but then also knowing, that, oh it's just like, us.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 3: Man he puts his fucking pants on the same way we,
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 3: do one leg at a, time unless he could jump
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: and put both on the same.
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: Time BUT i think there's a physics element to it.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: Too the reality Of gaichie And taporia is That taporia
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: is much. Smaller, yeah he's a much smaller. Person, look
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 1: he's got death in his. Hands death and a lot
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: of people would have folded in that second. Round But
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 1: gaichie is so fucking. Durable he's so and you can't
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: make him. Quit it's not he's not going to. Quit
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: you might beat, him he's been beat, before but it's
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: not because he doesn't believe in. Himself and it's not
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: because he can't. Endure it's because he gets. Caught, yeah you,
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 1: know and you think about the Way ilia put it
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: on him in that second. Round he emptied the gas,
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 1: tank emptied the gas, tank And geichie was still. There
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 1: and that's the, problem as you cannot empty the gas
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: tank on that. GUY i think he.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 3: Tried he got ahead of himself. TOO i felt like
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 3: he was trying to put an escamation point bow tie
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 3: ribbon on the finish where he could have submitted him
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 3: or maybe just go for THE, tko but instead he
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 3: went for the kabeb like mounted triangle that he could
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: be hit On geichee and he was in the same,
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 3: position was going for the same, sequence AND i, go,
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 3: brother this is either going to be really dope or
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be the reason you. Lose and he lost the.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 3: Position gage gets back up and man just everything he
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 3: did in the. Approach if they had a, rematch maybe
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 3: the fight goes, different maybe To, taporia if he does
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 3: he takes him down and does what he's also really
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 3: good at and summits, him.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: Or maybe he's more patient with his attack and his
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: head more empty the gas tank in the second round
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: when he hasn't. Hurt it Was justin's attitude is so crazy,
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: Too like when he got back to the, corner he's,
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: like good body. Shot goods like that, helped like congratulating
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: him hitting him with a good liver. Shot, yeah, yeah
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: it's and he. Man he the way he hit.
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 3: HIM i was like the fact that he didn't just
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 3: go down and curl up in a ball and just
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 3: say all, Right i'm just gonna take my paycheck and go.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 1: Home.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 3: Nope but it.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: Was his chance at thirty seven to be a world
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: champion and he did, it and he did it in
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: The White, house which is. Crazy so you're saying this,
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: chance saying as a chance thirty seven is a chance
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: you've already pulled it off before you could be a
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: world champion at forty, five you know.
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 3: It, bro that would be The cinerella ending for my.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: Career.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 3: YEAH i can't even put into words like what that
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 3: would feel, Like LIKE i get like goosebums even like
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 3: thinking and talking about because, it's.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: Well you better and smarter than you've ever been. Before,
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: yeah all your, experience this is allow, fights great example
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: that you're you're at a you, know world championship level
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: at forty five for. Sure, Yeah it's it's a matter
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: of whether or not you get that, shot AND i
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: think they.
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 3: Should hopefully let's SAY i don't get, booked because there's
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: not a lot of, options but let's say they have their,
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 3: fight Hopefully Sinabu dhabi sooner rather than.
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 1: LATER i think that's when it's supposed to, be.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah that's What i've, Heard and Hopefully i'm the next,
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 3: guy because then it's okay to, wait that's not, then you,
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 3: Know i'd rather stay, active stay, busy make, money and
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 3: the whole, nine because that's that's that's ultimately what it comes.
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 1: Down too. Long so they haven't talked to you about
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: any potential fights or offered you.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 3: Anything they floated. Names pigo's now book was. Allowed oh, yes,
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 3: interesting this Is valley Host but With valay, hosts that's
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 3: going so far back again for, me it's, like it's
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 3: not a fight that makes it ton of.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: Sense but.
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 3: Whatever these guys want to. Do But i've never said,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 3: no maybe that's a.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: Problem but ideally you'd like to fight for the.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: Title IDEALLY i would like to fight for the title.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 3: Next AND i.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: Think that makes, sense especially you as a former world
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: champion In. Phantom, wait it makes sense especially If folk.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: Wins this is a big. Fight you can make two
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 1: OG's of their weight.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 3: Classes Everything i've done at the bandweight, division set the.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 3: Records why not you know so? WELL i mean he
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 3: After larne knocked Out, pico he was, Saying i'll see you,
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 3: next and we thought that was going to be the
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 3: case and it. Changed, yeah so hopefully hopefully.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: Changes But lorone loses To EVE bluev and you, know
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: and then the whole thing is just upside down now Because,
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: loron after he knocked Out pico looked like the.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 3: MAN i, mean it wasn't looking like the man before.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 3: That but, Well pico's bad.
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker, yeah he didn't get like no.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 3: FUCKS i was, like, dude you gotta slow.
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: Down he's so. RECKLESS i, mean it makes him so.
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: Excited but, listen he adjusted in the pit bull. Fight,
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: yeah in perfect. WAY i mean he looked like world
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 1: class in the in the pitbull. Fight that left, hook
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: he has.
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 3: This beautiful it's.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: Nasty oh it's. Beautiful it's. Perfect like they should study.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 1: It Should they should teach that left hook The Aaron
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: pico left hook him And. Ilia ilia's left hook is fucking,
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: phenomenal that left hook to the.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 3: Body ilia just does such a good job once he
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 3: gets going and he's a.
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: Slip and he's just like bink bink.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 3: Bink someone'st Like connor esque the way he just lines
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 3: up his shots of Vintage, Connor.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: Vintage connor Like Eddie Alvarez. Connor oh my, god that
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: was he the? Matrix who is?
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 3: It A they did a side by Side euro's metitch
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 3: with d roddy and it was a. PROBLEM i was,
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 3: like there's no way this is like the same exact combination.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: Close except for the. Knee yeah, Yeah euro's manage are. Good,
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: man he's another. Motherfucker he's another motherfucker and another guy
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: who was cutting too much. Weight yeah yeah at seventy
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: that's perfect for him because he's. Big, man he's so.
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 1: TALL i think old first round, too uh, huh just starching.
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: Guys serbia is a wild place, too, Man they're wild.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 3: People, brother, brother it was. Hostile they were nice to,
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 3: me but my al baby and friends because there's still
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of history that wasn't too long. Ago AND
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 3: i always tell my friends, that, like, yo we are
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 3: blessed to be in this country because the shit we
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 3: bitch about and complain, about these are, luxuries liberties and
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 3: freedoms that a lot of these countries do not. Have
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 3: Right and all it takes is a short trip overseas
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 3: and you'll, See.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 1: HEY i can't wait to go back home And i'll
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: kiss the. Grounds it ain't, perfect but we got a.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: Lot you, know have you ever seen Those serbian basketball?
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: GAMES i heard about. IT i didn'tet to see, them.
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 3: THOUGH i heard they were talking ABOUT i think we
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 3: were supposed to go to one or something like.
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 1: That war like the chance in the, audience it's, crazy
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: the flares and.
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 3: Everything well it's the.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: Chance it's when they they're, Chanting you're Like, jesus it's like.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: Daunting it's it's very different than anything you've ever seen In.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: America it's like they're first of, all they're national. Price
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: give me some volume on. This, yeah the, flares Bro serbian. Basketball,
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: yeah they're lighting that place on. FIRE i mean it
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: might as well be a.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 3: Riot now is this actually? Basketball like we know? It? Bro?
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: Basketball? Good, No, no each, other the, DAGs Daddy's it's, Crazy,
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: like listen to the.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 2: Crowd, fuck, bro they get into.
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 1: It look at that, STADIUM i, know a lazy it's like.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: WAR i mean the, energy fucking. Crowd it's the energy
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: is like the energy in An AMERICAN nba game times.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: Ten The. Knicks it's. Crazy it's. Crazy How like look
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: at all the movement in the. CROWD i, mean these
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: people are. ACTIVE i mean it's kind of. Nuts, yeah we.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 3: Don't that's the unfortunate. THING i feel like our sports
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 3: isn't as like like our fan base is Besides New
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 3: yorkers who will beat you up for being a rival
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 3: team in the playoff.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: Finals we're in The Rown.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 3: Jersey better take that shit.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: Off we don't really get like like we. Don't, yeah that's,
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: like well those people have been to war pretty. Different,
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: yeah so. Different, yeah, yeah but it makes you, Appreciate
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: that's What that's what it's.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 3: LIKE i go back, to, like it makes me appreciate
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 3: like what we have here and the fact that we
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 3: can achieve basically whatever it is that we want.
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: To it's gonna be not, easy but we. Can, yes
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 1: we can. Try we have the option to try. Anything,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean this is literally the land of. Opportunity
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: but when you see people that come From, serbia we
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: see people that come From, dagistan we see people that
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 1: come from these like war Torn. Cheshnya they're different because
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: their their childhood was. Different different. Mentality, yeah it's a different.
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 1: Mentality it's a warrior. Mentality it's very. Different, yeah Like
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: i've seen.
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 3: It i've learned a little bit from morob and going To,
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 3: georgia learned the history about them In russia and the
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 3: whole the whole war and everything and the political side of.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: Things and then going To, albania going To kosov and
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 3: then going To serbia and and seeing how like The
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 3: serbians are coming up to My albanian friends introducing. Themselves
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 3: basically we're asking my friends where they're from and then
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 3: just straight up to Saying kasova Is serbia as an.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: INTRODUCTION i would, go.
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: Are we just trying to start a fight right?
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 3: Now? LIKE i don't. Understand can we just be, like
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 3: can we just be? Cool you're we're in your. Country
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 3: we just accept one another for what it. Is we're
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 3: here for the. Fights we're not here to fight just to.
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 3: Have oh BEFORE i forget. This so we were at
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 3: a were after one of the, NIGHTS i think we
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 3: went to one of the the clubs on The war
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 3: on the water and we go out to this food
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 3: spot to go get food to call good food or.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 3: Whatever and we're there where with some of the, staff
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 3: THE ufc. Staff we're hanging out that these guys are always,
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 3: great that we're having a good. TIME a couple of,
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 3: fighters AND i guess one of the guys came over
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 3: and was talking to one of our friends and he
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 3: goes to him like our friend looks straight up d'ardinian
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 3: like he looks like a straight Up illyrian, bloodline like
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 3: he looks straight up Out.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: Bamian and he asked him where he's.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 3: From he tells, Me I'm, Obani i'm from UH i
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 3: think he say He's fromkasov and they start. Talking but
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 3: then sure, enough the, GUY i guess starts reaching into
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 3: his pocket and he says.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: Whatever he.
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 3: Says they don't Speak serbian's different, language and we have
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 3: A serbian friend with.
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 1: Us and he translates for he translates for, him and
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: he tells.
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 3: Him he, says if you guys don't clear out in ten,
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 3: Minutes i'm gonna blow this place.
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 1: Up.
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 3: Brother What i'm taking a piss break around the corner
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 3: or outside somewhere Because i'm, Like i've been drinking all.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 3: NIGHT I i gotta find somewhere to. GO i come
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 3: back and they're explaining this to, me so we start
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 3: telling the, girls he. Says when the guy starts going
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 3: down the, steps he's like trying to talk to the.
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 3: Guy he keeps taking a step.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: Back he.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 3: Says he starts sweating. Profusely he's got his hands in
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 3: his back pocket and he moves it to the front
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 3: and he's just like waving, whatever saying whatever he's saying
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 3: In serbian and telling everybody they better. Leave and he
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 3: said he thought it was a, gun and then he
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 3: asked Our serbian. Friend he, said, no it was a.
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 3: GRENADE i was, like, what he's just casually walking around
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 3: with a fucking? Grenade are you kidding? Me and just
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 3: because they were all, baning, brother this is this is
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 3: life for these.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: Guys it's AND i know people are gonna be they're gonna.
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 3: Criticize, oh we're not all, like of, course not everyone
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 3: is like, that but there's still some crazy people out
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 3: there that still have this pent up resentment and anger
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 3: for everything because of the separation of the lands and all.
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 1: This but this it's almost like the Real palestine. Thing, it's,
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 1: uh all.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 3: The lands get divided from years ago and then you
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 3: did this to, me but then you did this to,
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 3: me but then you did this to me, first but
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 3: you did this to me back. Then And i'm, like
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 3: what are we gonna go back to B, C like
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 3: what the fuck are we talking? About can we draw
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 3: a line in the sand and, go, okay this is
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 3: where we all agree that this is what it should
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 3: Be and just make everybody happy so or somewhat, happy
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 3: so that we can go on with our lives in.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: Peace you know WHAT i. Mean it's just the. Problem, yeah,
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: YEAH i was. SO i was so like broken up about.
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 1: It i'm just Like, JOE i did not.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 3: Know it was like this, man this is like because
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 3: you're from this country and this guy had a pleasant
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 3: conversation with, You he's gonna pull out a fucking.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: Grenada he's going.
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 3: Walking i'm, like, nah it's, crazy but.
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah don't take any fights over there for This Albanian
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 1: god Bless. America, Well dennis Is. Albanian that's.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 3: Crazy and the chance he was getting basically what they
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 3: told me to translate to was Kill. Albinians And i'm
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 3: laughing BECAUSE i don't understand. Anything i'm just laughing Because i'm, Like,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 3: yo this is. Sick you're in the main. Event this
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 3: was like me fighting o'melly in the main. Event the
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 3: crowd was. Packed they could not wait For dennis to
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 3: make that well boo in you hear a Chance Kasova, Serbia, Casova, Serbia, Casova.
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 3: Serbia and, yeah, unfortunately BUT i Told dennis was, like
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 3: you handled it, well like you, know even in hostile.
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 3: Territory you came in like a. Champ you didn't piss anybody.
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 3: Off you were just doing what you normally. Do you
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 3: do your ego every. Fight you're not looking to provoke.
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 3: Anybody and it was nice to. See even after the,
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 3: fight whatever the fucked up stoppage he, was he got
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 3: a better.
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: Reception on the way. Out there was still some like angry, fans, like,
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: well luckily he didn't. WIN i was, Like, brown you
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: had won this fight.
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 3: HERE i don't, know, man we had to.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 1: Run they have blew up the. Hotel oh my, GOD
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 1: i imagine you fight Euros metics over there and you
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: you beat.
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 3: Him BUT i don't even know If i'm supposed to say,
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 3: this but his dad was told when he got to
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 3: THE i guess the hotel that he wasn't welcome. Here
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 3: he had to go all the way back To. Albabia,
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 3: really he drove all the way, down had to drive
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 3: all the way. Back, wow that's because his last. Name holy, shit,
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 3: man they told me you're not welcome. Here this Is
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 3: god Bless.
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: America yeah, YEAH i, mean here's the thing like In,
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: america like When russians fight in THE, ufc everybody cheers.
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 3: Got the biggest.
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: RECEPTION i mean even, now even now in the middle
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 1: of The Ukraine war and all that, Shit like When
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 1: russians fight over, here nobody. Cares if you could, fight
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 1: they'll cheer. You, yeah there's a few people to yell OUT, USA,
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 1: Usa and that's all good because it's just it's not that,
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 1: bad you. Know it's just they're cheering for The american
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: but they're not saying death to The, russian you know
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 1: WHAT i.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 3: Mean, yeah we don't have a, phrase have a, statement,
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 3: right but would you fight In russia right?
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 1: Now imagine if you were fighting A russian In russia right?
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 1: Now how? SCARED i got offered a raft match In?
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 1: Russia what's a raft? Match r? Ef, OH i thought
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 1: you meant like, raft like you fight on a. Raft, No,
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 1: no that'd be. Crazy you. See morob was, basically.
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 3: Uh he did the sporty kick off the raft and
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 3: that he picked him up and slimmed the bit to the.
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 3: Water so you offered one of those? Matches, yeah and
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 3: my second. One the first one was With Benson. Henderson
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 3: uh that was a fun match more so for. Me but,
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 3: yeah BUT i was just like it was a really
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 3: good prospect twelve and, oh, GUY i think he fights
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 3: A pfl tough. Guy But i'm, like, Dude i'm Leaving.
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 3: ALBANIA i just Left. BAKU i have no desire to
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 3: go all the way back overseas. AGAIN i want to
• 2:46:49
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  Speaker 1: Ts. Well it's also there's a reality of wrestling matches
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• 2:47:08
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• 2:47:12
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• 2:47:13
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