the best thing is the next thing

chinwag · Nov 4, 2026 · 41m

nicole matthews has been running her business for almost twenty years, and she still has nights where she lies in bed wondering what she’s doing in the room. so does gabby, and that’s where this one starts. we recorded live on the show floor, in comfy chairs courtesy of afr, and sat down with the founder of the henley company and author of permission to talk about the one thing nobody else can hand you: the go-ahead. nicole named the book after one too many women thanked her for giving them permission she says was always theirs to give themselves. gabby gets honest about the excuses that have…