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8-06-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold live at Training Camp/More with Leggy/A relaxed day at Camp · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Pro Football The Insider
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  Speaker 3: Training camp coverage on Altitude Sports Radio rolls along. Here
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  Speaker 3: we are expected to have a day where pads will
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  Speaker 3: not be on after three straight days of padded practice
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  Speaker 3: out here at Broncos Park. Alex Ryan Amy filling in
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  Speaker 3: for Kaner alongside Mark Moser and our guest courtesy of
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  Speaker 3: the Romos Law Hotline that is Jeff leg Wall. The
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  Speaker 4: What's up man in the flesh warnant fellas, that's the
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  Speaker 4: best part of.
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  Speaker 3: Training camp is that we get to have you in
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  Speaker 3: the tent with us rather than on zoom.
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  Speaker 5: But he's not on camera. He's not on camera. He's
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  Speaker 5: a little camera shy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, take our word for it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a contractual thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is it okay? Good? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: If he doesn't have his kitchen cabinets behind him, can't
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  Speaker 3: that's a contractual thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: They got to be able to see the fridge. Otherwise
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  Speaker 5: he's not he's not on the TV and I'm live.
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  Speaker 5: There's all kinds of rules.
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  Speaker 3: We will we'll get into the minutia of Broncos camp
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  Speaker 3: and what we saw yesterday. But I floated you this
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  Speaker 3: question going into the break. The akron Zips are giving
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  Speaker 3: a lucky fan the ability to script their opening drive
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  Speaker 3: of the season.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where we're at now.
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  Speaker 3: If Sean, If Sean gave you the ability, what's the
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  Speaker 3: script for the opening drive?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Play action and every throat of Marvin mems.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Just force feed them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm Jeff, I'm on your bandwagon, man, you you
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  Speaker 5: you do you?
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I would do the same damn.
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  Speaker 6: Thing, or or I would uh uh yeah two back
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  Speaker 6: two tight end thro throw play action. I gotta have
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  Speaker 6: some runs in there because I'm a dinosaur. But anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: a couple of.
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  Speaker 5: Hey man, uh, we were talking earlier and yesterday I
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  Speaker 5: thought d mac and Tyler and Scotty and coach. They
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  Speaker 5: dubbed it correctly. This is the uh nothing to see
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  Speaker 5: here camp. So far from Peyton righting me everything.
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  Speaker 4: That's his team retention, right right. I don't know twenty
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  Speaker 4: I I.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly can't remember covering a team I mean last year
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  Speaker 6: that had retention that was already I think one of
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  Speaker 6: the most biggest returning percentages I had ever covered. You know,
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  Speaker 6: this is my fortieth year, I think. So that's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of teams and this one even up the ante
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  Speaker 6: they have. They have twenty of twenty two starter from
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  Speaker 6: the AFC Championship game back. If you count the special teams, guys,
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  Speaker 6: it's twenty five, you know, yeah, twenty five or twenty
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  Speaker 6: three returning players.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 5: But it's also the Hey, look, Jaylen Waddle stops on
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  Speaker 5: it on it. You know, you could see it coming
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  Speaker 5: maybe a little bit. The guys are watching him. He's
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  Speaker 5: being a little bit ginger. He stops and and he's
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  Speaker 5: off the field. He's fine. You know, most tight has
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  Speaker 5: nothing to see here. Well, you know, Courland Sutton's second
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  Speaker 5: day in a row that he's not probably nothing to
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  Speaker 5: see here. Me, he's fine, mean, and I have no
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  Speaker 5: reason in the world, Jeff who disbelieves Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely right. I'm sure he's muscled right.
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  Speaker 4: And it's that's said.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he said everything was okay with bo and
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  Speaker 6: then oh, by the way, he had a second surgery,
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  Speaker 6: right right.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he doesn't like talking about injuries. He really
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  Speaker 6: doesn't like talking about injuries in August. Uh when he
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  Speaker 6: feels like he doesn't have to.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: So, you know, I'm not surprised by the tenor of
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  Speaker 6: his answers. But that's said. I've I've not seen a
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  Speaker 6: guy get two VET days back to back. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I've seen guys held out of team drills for consecutive
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  Speaker 6: days and all of those things. But you know, I
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  Speaker 6: think they feel pretty good about where they are. I
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  Speaker 6: think the whole structure of the off season now, they've
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  Speaker 6: done so much of the stuff and OTAs and mini
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  Speaker 6: camp they would have done in the past, and the
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  Speaker 6: first two weeks of training camp. So I think sometimes
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  Speaker 6: we have to wrap our heads around. It's a different
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  Speaker 6: calendar than it was twenty years ago, and they've adjusted,
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  Speaker 6: and this is how Camp's gonna look, you know, moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: The defense has kind of dominated the day the last
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  Speaker 3: three practices, Which is it? I wouldn'tay. It's a far
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  Speaker 3: cry from what we saw the first couple of days
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  Speaker 3: when we were out here. But the offense looked better
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  Speaker 3: on day one and day two. Is it simply because well,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have your starting center and Courtland Sutton has
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  Speaker 3: sat out to practices and then Jaalen Wattle twenty five
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  Speaker 3: minutes into practice walks off on his own, like pulling
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  Speaker 3: up on a route against air. Are they struggling because
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  Speaker 3: they don't have three starters or is it just the
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  Speaker 3: defense showing up in kind of dominating the line of scrimmage?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think all but one day to me has
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  Speaker 6: been a defensive flavor. This is how Camp looks when
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  Speaker 6: you're good on defense, you know, This is how the
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  Speaker 6: twenty fifteen in the Peyton manning you know, a quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: This is how Camp looked the defenses. This defense is
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  Speaker 6: gonna win a lot of days because they're good. You know,
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  Speaker 6: they're one of the league's best. If when when everybody's
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  Speaker 6: healthy and on the field. So uh, you know, and
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  Speaker 6: again you know all the teams I've covered that have
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  Speaker 6: had really good defenses, it's this it's a slugfest in
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  Speaker 6: camp and you don't have a good idea I think
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  Speaker 6: sometimes of where the offense is until they simply just
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  Speaker 6: play somebody else. And the rub of it this year
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  Speaker 6: is they do not have a joint practice, so they
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  Speaker 6: won't even get you know, a little glimpse.
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  Speaker 2: Do you miss that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a good thing, but I think
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  Speaker 4: for Sean, his thing is is if you have a
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  Speaker 4: joint practice, you miss an installation day, and then you
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  Speaker 4: miss the practice day that comes from that installation day,
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  Speaker 4: so it's really a.
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  Speaker 2: Two day so you don't gain more than you give up.
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  Speaker 6: In his mind, this year they needed the installation day
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  Speaker 6: because I think Davis Web's a first year play caller.
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  Speaker 4: They they have tweaked some things in the offense, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I think he just saw it as a they need
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  Speaker 6: those days more right now than they need, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the Packers to be in here for a day before
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  Speaker 6: they play the preseason game or something.
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about d wideout's real quick because I was
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  Speaker 5: reading your article that Franklin and and Bryant. You know
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  Speaker 5: they got plenty of time yesterday. When you've got Sutton
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  Speaker 5: and Waddle out, those guys are gonna get plenty of
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  Speaker 5: snaps with the first team. I look at it, Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: If you're keeping five, your five or set, there's no
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  Speaker 5: there's no movement whatsoever. And I know they I see
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  Speaker 5: little Jordan Hilphrey keeps turning up like a bad penny.
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  Speaker 5: But when he turns back up they use him. I
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  Speaker 5: mean for crying out loud. He actually gets thrown to
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  Speaker 5: and he makes plays. What are we looking at there?
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  Speaker 6: You're gonna need an exceptional camp in a preseason to
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  Speaker 6: get them to keep six. So all these guys that
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  Speaker 6: are getting noticed, you know, King Butler, Bandy Butler's Shiel,
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  Speaker 6: Jordan Humphrey, I mean, they're all getting noticed, they're all
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  Speaker 6: making some plays, but you're gonna need an exceptional preseason
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  Speaker 6: to get them to keep six. There's just no room there. Obviously,
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  Speaker 6: injury influences something. If somebody gets hurt, then the spot's open.
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  Speaker 6: But with the practice squad the way it is now,
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  Speaker 6: you know you can keep veterans so that you know
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  Speaker 6: and little Jordan Humphrey especially has already shown he's willing
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  Speaker 6: to be the veteran guy on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: Doing very malleable doing the elevation game.
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  Speaker 6: And I think they will use that to manipulate some
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  Speaker 6: of the you know, how many they keep at the
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  Speaker 6: fifty three cutdown may not be how it looks in
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  Speaker 6: October type of thing, just because I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 6: use that the movement you can have and sometimes you know,
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  Speaker 6: a guy like old Jordan Humphrey, you're not gonna keep
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  Speaker 6: on the cut to fifty three because that means you
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  Speaker 6: guaranteed his salary, so you can you can cut them
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  Speaker 6: bring him back. But you know, this time of year,
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  Speaker 6: everybody asked to clear waivers, so you are kind of
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  Speaker 6: risking you rolling the dice on anybody you put out there.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald is brought to you by the International Brotherhood
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  Speaker 3: of Electrical Workers ib W Local sixty eight. Start with
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  Speaker 3: a job and end with a career. When you did
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  Speaker 3: your Broncos training camp preview, you talked about three key
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  Speaker 3: position battles, which was off ball linebacker, it was defensive tackle,
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  Speaker 3: trying to fill in for the departure of Jonathan Franklin
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  Speaker 3: Myers as well as the bulk of the running back
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  Speaker 3: two carries. What have you seen with those three position battles?
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  Speaker 4: The defensive tackle one maybe over it might be Osa
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  Speaker 4: Rique and Onneedham are they've been front and center That
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  Speaker 4: young rookie is gonna be a ballplayer. I think we
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  Speaker 4: talked a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot about like DJ Jones and Malcolm Roach yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: But you think it's the well no, I mean they're
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  Speaker 6: they're in that other rotation. But the Franklin Meyers snap,
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  Speaker 6: those are five hundred snaps they have to fill. That's
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  Speaker 6: how I.
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  Speaker 5: Characterize soam with those are the guys that.
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  Speaker 4: That to me, Yeah, they're they're in the mix.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, waz Riquez had a really good can so far.
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  Speaker 5: Well, when you get praise from Sean Payton, I mean.
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  Speaker 6: And on Needham is that's a that's gonna end up
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  Speaker 6: looking like a pretty pretty good third round pick. That
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  Speaker 6: he's got length power, uh plays you know, deep into
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  Speaker 6: the deep, into the down. I mean, he's he's that's
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  Speaker 6: a young player who came in ready to go. So
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  Speaker 6: that's a good selection, you know, I know it didn't
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  Speaker 6: make people fire the confetti cannons, as I say, when
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  Speaker 6: on draft Day, but that's he's gonna end up being
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  Speaker 6: a nice player for.
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  Speaker 4: Them right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 5: I just remember our conversation like it was yesterday, because
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  Speaker 5: it probably was. But we're talking about Caleb Blowner. We're
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  Speaker 5: talking about the tight end room and how you know
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  Speaker 5: there's a billion guys in there and so on, and
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  Speaker 5: you were talking about his attributes in his thirty nine
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  Speaker 5: inch first and he's six to seven already and all that,
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  Speaker 5: and his teammates like.
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  Speaker 2: We got to figure out a way to get this
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  Speaker 2: guy out there and so on.
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  Speaker 4: But it's not out there.
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  Speaker 5: But then I remember the Jeff lake Wald, the Jeff Lgwald.
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  Speaker 5: This is this is Jeff Lakewald commandment. You can't make
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  Speaker 5: the club in the tub. And that's an absolute fact.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I think that every nine a.
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  Speaker 4: Guy's fault, you know, correct, correct? You know they just
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  Speaker 4: can't control.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Jeff, there have been plenty of guys who have
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  Speaker 5: washed out of this league just because they couldn't stay healthy,
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  Speaker 5: not because the team didn't want him.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah know what I mean? I think what helps him
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  Speaker 6: right now? I mean, ay, they kept him on the roster.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't have him open camp on pup. He didn't
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  Speaker 6: open camp on any of the lists, so they felt
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  Speaker 6: like he was close enough to keep him on the
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  Speaker 6: roster when they opened camp. Now, we haven't seen him yet,
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  Speaker 6: but Sean did tell us the other day that he
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  Speaker 6: had gotten their attention enough before he got that That impacts,
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  Speaker 6: you know, because he was asked, are you concerned yet
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  Speaker 6: that he's not on the field, and his answer was essentially, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: if you're not on the field, I'm concerned. But they
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  Speaker 6: his ascension was seen before he got hurt, so I
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  Speaker 6: think that will impact their decision and in how they
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  Speaker 6: bring him back. I think he is a real chance
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  Speaker 6: to make the roster there, but you know, they may
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  Speaker 6: have to that may be where the extra receiver goes
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  Speaker 6: is Ultimately that roster spot may go to a tight
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  Speaker 6: end as they try to keep guys who can do
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  Speaker 6: a variety of things, but they need they need athleticism there.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's fine that they have guys he he
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  Speaker 6: thinks are smart and and do all the right things.
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  Speaker 6: And it is from an assignment standpoint, it's one of
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  Speaker 6: the most difficult positions to play and Hayten's offense because
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  Speaker 6: you have all of the past protections. You have all
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  Speaker 6: of the run fits and you have all your routes,
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  Speaker 6: so you get like the whole package. Like receivers don't
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  Speaker 6: have to worry about the protection fronts right and knowing
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  Speaker 6: Bo's checks to get in and out of those and
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  Speaker 6: all the you know, tight ends have to know all
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  Speaker 6: of it. So it's really hard for a guy like
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  Speaker 6: Jolly the rookie to get all that in your head
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  Speaker 6: enough to show them, Okay, you can play on the
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  Speaker 6: week one, but they need Jolie's athleticism. They need loaners athleticism.
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  Speaker 6: They need athleticism that at that spot. Because Ingram Ingram
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  Speaker 6: has shown he's still got some run skills, and some
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  Speaker 6: of the defenders have told me that's a tougher matchup
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  Speaker 6: than people give it credit for. He's still a good mover.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully continue to utilize them more than they did last season.
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  Speaker 4: Say what you know, fifty catches is a lot, but
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  Speaker 4: we I think you're impact correct.
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  Speaker 2: That is correct.
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  Speaker 4: If he had forty.
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  Speaker 6: Catches and and twenty were far more impacted, it's exactly
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  Speaker 6: better year. But uh, Davis Webb has already shown he's
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  Speaker 6: a lot more about things between the numbers than they've
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  Speaker 6: run in the past. I'm sure Sewn has called it,
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  Speaker 6: but I think that's the hurdle they're trying to get
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  Speaker 6: bow Nicks over is there's a whole section of the
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  Speaker 6: field you're not using to the max and and they
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  Speaker 6: need to do that.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny because I'll look at the tight end grouping
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  Speaker 5: right and I'm thinking, Okay, you add Loder into that too.
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  Speaker 5: He'd be easy to spot because he's so tall. But
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  Speaker 5: you throw the fullback in and just like that's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of dudes.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a bunch. There's just a bunch of dudes
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  Speaker 2: in groups like a little pack.
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  Speaker 6: This is a team where you know they're gonna be
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  Speaker 6: putting guys out there that other people grab yause you
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  Speaker 6: know they have a lot better backups than some teams
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  Speaker 6: have in the front line.
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  Speaker 3: All right, talk to me about the rookie in Jonah Coleman.
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  Speaker 3: What have you seen out of him?
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  Speaker 6: And champas he's gonna play yeah, yeah, no, he's he's
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  Speaker 6: physic a goal uh, quick to the whole, very decisive.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the one thing he's not you know that.
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  Speaker 6: I think Juliel and Tyler Bidet are probably battling it
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  Speaker 6: out for that last the fourth running You know, they
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  Speaker 6: can always keep five backs, but that hasn't happened very often.
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  Speaker 3: Well, especially if you're talking about keeping an extra roster
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  Speaker 3: spot for a guy like Loner.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean that you know there's gonna be some
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  Speaker 6: extra roster spots come in and and you know somebody
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  Speaker 6: gets hurt in the preseason and it's a three week injury.
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  Speaker 6: That's also the kind of thing that influences. But Coleman
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  Speaker 6: is in the mix, and we haven't even seen some
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  Speaker 6: of his best. Like in past protection. I went back
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  Speaker 6: and before the draft and looked at all those snaps
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  Speaker 6: and uh, he doesn't just get in the way. He's
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  Speaker 6: he's looking to clean people a.
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  Speaker 2: Little bowling ball. That's good.
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  Speaker 4: He's a tough guy in pass protection.
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  Speaker 6: And that is every running back coach I hain't known,
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  Speaker 6: from Bobby Turner to Eric Stutisville to to all these
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  Speaker 6: guys who've helped me through the years dissect that position.
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  Speaker 6: Every single one of them will tell you what gets
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  Speaker 6: a rookie on the field the fastest pass protection.
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  Speaker 3: Can we expect to see that on Saturday during the
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  Speaker 3: controlled scrimmage.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure how deep they'll get into the
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  Speaker 6: you know, how much impact they're gonna play. I think
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  Speaker 6: they would play with what they call thud speed, which
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  Speaker 6: is you impact the runner, but you do not take
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  Speaker 6: them to the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Someone got taken to the ground yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if somebody's on the ground at this camp, do
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  Speaker 5: that it's they got.
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  Speaker 6: They got a lecture after I think it was I
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  Speaker 6: forget who rolled into bow Malcolm Roach. Malcolm Roach rolled
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  Speaker 6: in the bowl and uh, they got a little lecture
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  Speaker 6: after that.
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  Speaker 5: If somebody's on the ground, I mean somebody.
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  Speaker 6: And honestly that's you know, teams, I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think it's just not structured anymore where you can tackle
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  Speaker 6: people of the ground. If you lose your three plus
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  Speaker 6: best players because you tackle to the ground, you want
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  Speaker 6: to show a tough yewer in tamp uh. You go
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  Speaker 6: from a twelve win team to a seven win team
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  Speaker 6: pretty fast.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not don't take this the wrong way.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Why because you don't, because because you knowever you wind
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: up for this.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Pitch, Well, I'm gonna use your own words against you.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: You don't look at day over sixty. You've been doing
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: this for forty years now. But Jeff Way, I'm over six.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: You look great, correct me if I'm wrong. Though, there
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: used to be a lot more surprises in a training camp.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Right, well, this team isn't built for no.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: No, not not at all, So so might that's in.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: The fact you have a you have a head coach.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: On the list of things he wants no surprise surprises
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: is way down at the bottom a hundred percent. Right
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: after questions.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: From Leggy and Andy Lindall, more questions from Leggy, Yeah, no,
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: this is this team is built for Uh, there's not
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of room for new faces and that's not
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: built for surprise.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: So that with your football mind in today's modern Broncos
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: training camp, do you look for I mean, do you
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: lower your expectations and then look for little things that
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: intrigue you, little prizes to kind of keep that football
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: brain stimulated.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: Well that you know, the spot where young guys are
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: going to make the team is inside linebacker. I think
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: you're gonna see two backups who are young. Oh, he's
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: having a good game, Murdoch, and I'm gonna be really
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: surprised if he doesn't knock the ball out in in
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: the preseason because that's just his that's in his DNA apparently,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: because when I was looking at him before the draft,
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: I felt like, you know, now it's buffalo. You ever
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: see a Buffalo against a lot of guys who aren't
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: in the league. But it doesn't matter. If you get
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: the ball out, you get the ball out. I don't
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: care who you're playing. And I felt like every third
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: snap when I watched him, the ball was out. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: he does something. You know, he's got that little thing
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: whatever it is, that when he impacts people that the
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: ball comes out. And I think if he does that
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: once or twice, but he's been he's been moving up steadily.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: I think, you know Ellen's you're took second team ramps quarterback.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: And I saw I saw fifty out here doing I
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: mean I saw him doing his.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: He Murnoch's taking second team reps.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: So they're in the mid I think the back up
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: inside linebackers, they want to see somebody step forward in that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And thenanders got to stay in the field.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: They need a backup for safety that's gotta find a
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: way to get in the mix. You know, Devin Key
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: is going to be the third safety and he's one
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: of their best special teams in an All Pro Special
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Teams player last year, so uh, they but they need
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: a fourth guy. Those are the things you're looking at.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: And you know, I always I tell people don't pay
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: attention to long passes and seven on.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: So those don't mean anything. And I know people go
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: crazy and they.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Love to see They just want to see some action,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: you know. They don't want to see guys going through
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: individual drills working on technique. You know, I get it,
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: But uh, look at rotations. You want to understand what's
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: going on with the team. Look at the parts of
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: practice no one else pays attention to. That's they're really
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: shown you the rotations.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that yesterday. I'm like, so I'm excited.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: He uh sean poop poo the Ellinger snaps after practice yesterday.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: But I will tell you those were real second team snaps.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Those weren't hey, we're rotating guys your day. Yeah No,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: those were the real second team snaps that he don't
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: start downing, Yeah, don't start counting.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I wish I had a dollar for every time he
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: told me.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: You have to be someplace. Can you can you hang
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: on just for a little bit more?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Do you have to go, so I gotta go to practice.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Do you stand over there in the sun yet you're
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: not even doing anything? I got.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: I just doesn't count until I want. You can't tempt
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: my stay. You can't tempt my tummy with the taste
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: oft of honey when it comes to that quarterback, because well,
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: thank you appreciate. Is that all it takes? Yeah, then
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: I'm in.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, rog will take us a break, but I uh,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I got, I got this thought about about what I
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: saw out of the former Texas quarterback.
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: Okay, go anywhere, like trust your thoughts more though, Leggy
• 20:02
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• 20:04
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• 20:22
  Speaker 5: So lazy, the guys are so Jeff, can you believe
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: these kids are?
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I take it personal, Bratt, I take it no doubt.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: That's Mark Mojer, that's Jeff, by the way, the people
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: on the text message, because you did throw Leggie under
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the bus one days saying that Leggie would be out
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: here in flops and I thought that was preposterous. Uh,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: he has his pig, he's covered, and you still have
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: those things screaming. I'm a disgusting professional professional discuss seen
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: never seen somebody that flops.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Who's the guy that moved. Who's the guy that moved
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to Italy? What was his name? Guy from the post?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: What was his name? Like?
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, I'm glad you stayed. Though I appreciate your
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: time very much. I know it's valuable. But it beats
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: it beats Stanton though. It beats standing on that concrete
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: slab on his sun.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: That's my spot. Okay, we let's talk my spots, like
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: halfway down in between the fields.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: That's always he always picks the spot and gets his perimeter.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Everybody stays away.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: There's a piece of astro turf that he stands on
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: gets picked up every day.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: I stand there and everybody gives me my little clearance
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: because I'm I'm a paint in the painting loss in camp.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: That's that's why you're so good. But uh, let's talk
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: about these quarterbacks. And I watch I first saw him.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I went down to the stupid Alamo Bowl in twenty twenty,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: right or was it twenty twenty. I guess the way
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: they played the Buffs at twenty twenty. Uh, And so
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: saw Ellier there and he beat the snot out of
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the Buffs, and then the backup kid came in and
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: so on and so forth. So I followed him around
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: a little bit. But when I watch him in this camp,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: and now he's twenty seven years old, he's more mature.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: He's been around now, right, he's he's had a job
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: in this league. But when I hear Sean Payton talk
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: about him, and then I see what I see out there,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: it's not a lie that Peyton likes what he sees
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: out of the guy and the ability to get out
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: of the pocket and do all these different things. And
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: to me, he looks more like Bo Knicks does than
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Jared Stidham does. I mean they play more of a
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: similar style of quarterback. How do you feel about it?
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean he you know, whatever the team says
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: in public that you know, this guy turned down an
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: active roster spot last year to stay here on the
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: practice squad and then he re signed here.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: In the off season.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: So while Sean and everyone else can say we didn't
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: say anything to him, I am skeptical because the information
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: we have is that he was very intent on staying
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: here and I think he believed.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Is that a, hey, why don't you stick around?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: No?
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think they have made it very clear
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: that they like him, and he thinks enough and I
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: you know, he's you know, boas the absolute unquestioned starter.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: But if you're taking most consistent play at quarterback in camp, granted,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: he spent threes on threes most of the time, and
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: he should dominate that. Ellinger, he should dominate threes on
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: threes and he has and you know, yesterday moved up
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: to the twos. And I think there's a good chance
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: he's the backup quarterback when the season starts. And uh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: you know, one of the hints Seawn offered was the
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: ball moves, which means, in Shawn's world, Ellinger gets completions
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: in practice, doesn't waste downs, doesn't chuck it down the field,
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: doesn't throw it away, gets completions.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: The ball moves. That's what he's stopping about, right, The
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: ball's moving and it has.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: And you know, I think he's made the most of
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: every snap he's I don't think he's had I'm not
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: sure I've chartered a bad throw from him yet good
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: there wasn't a.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Ball in the ground yesterday from him.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: With the rest again he's doing with Peyton.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Manning always used to tell young quarterbacks when I would
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: watch Peyton talk to you, get completions.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: You know, it's all well and good to fire it
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: downfield after your first read, but get completions, and you
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: know he Ellinger has done that. That's a veteran. That's
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the kind of guy you want it back up.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Isn't it. It's funny you think of Sam Ellinger as
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: like a twenty three year old star.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: No offense to Jared Stidha, who's twenty nine and Jared.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You know, Sean loves and that's why time Jared.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Has made a living off tearing up a preseason game
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: to make that the video they look at when they're
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: when they're trying to make decisions. But uh, he's got
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: a he's got a fight on his hands.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: This year, I think Ellinger's come here ready to ready
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to rock. I mean, it's and I think they'll still
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: keep free. I'm I'm still in the mode where I'll
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: be surprised if they don't keep all three.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: But Stidham does have a very very big cap figure.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: It's one of the biggest on offense outside of the
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: If they caught him, it'd be like a three and
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a half million dollar cap, say five him. Well, that's
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: they don't need that room right now. They're they're pretty good.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that's that's a pretty big cap figure.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: If the guy is the number.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Three, that's that's just interesting to me. And again I
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: this is but.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Again, he's made a living out of for sure, throwing
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: for two eighty and a half.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah in the preseason, but this is modern NFL, man,
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: and you just you can't be sentimental. And if you need,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: like you said, if you need that five mil, you
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: need that five mil. And maybe one guy's not better
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: than the other guy, but but you're gonna be able
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: to save that. Bred mean, we're talking about the backup
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: quarterback anyway. But I just I that's one of the things.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I guess where I'm looking deeper if I can to
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: find something interesting to talk about rather than guys running
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: around the underwear.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: The backup quarterback mattered last in the most important time
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: of that's true.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: It always matters this day and age. It's rare for
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: a guy to run the table anymore. Front to back
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: is too hard to too hard to.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Survive, too hard to stay upright.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Speaking of the starter, what have you seen out of
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: bow Nix in terms of progression from year two to
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: year three? How do you think the ankle looks. It's
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: very clear. Like on the short side of the practice
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: field on UH on team run yesterday, he was doing
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: little like ten yard sprints by himself. He's he's testing
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: No, he still has a rehab process. He's going through that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: You can see there's a trainer right next to him
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: when he's doing that. So they're they're gauging as stride
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: and making sure he's not compensating. And because that's how
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: you injury your other leg is when you're coming back
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: from an injury and you you're not running you know balanced,
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: you know, you're leaning on one side or the other.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: So that's that's what they're checking. They're making sure he's
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: maintaining his his recovery. Uh, he's look good, you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: I think I think he has a good relationship with
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Davis Webb. You know, we haven't seen all of the things.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: You know, the stuff they do in the night walkthroughs
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: is the real offensive tweets. We haven't seen many of them.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: I've seen a few that I've noticed. Uh, but the
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: bulk of the real tweaks, the new stuff is they're
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: putting that in and we'll see we'll see that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see in September. Yeah, that's that they keep
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: that under the under the hood.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Read all your stuff of course all the time. Can't
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: get can't get through the week without getting my leg
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: wall fixed.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Uh. He's thirty six years old.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: He's just hanging out out there right now, coming off injury.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: What's the story with Hill? What is the story with
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Taysom Hill? And if if two can move to the
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: number two spotted quarterback, is it possible this guy could
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: be an emergency three and actually still help a football
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: team at the age of thirty six.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: You know, very limited last year, right, you know, he
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: had you know, I think one hundred yard receiving a
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: smattering of carrius and I think he threw one touchdown
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: pass last year and he missed some games. He started
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: the year on pup because of a knee injury from
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: the year before twenty three.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Is this just silly talker?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Is no?
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I mean you can never dismiss guys who played for
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Shawn in New Orleans because that that once you're one
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: of his guys. I mean we've seen it on this team.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Well, if Troutman's one of his guys, Little Jordan Humphreys
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: one of his guys.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you if you have shown him certain things,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: he will he will. Now you know, thirty six is
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: a different age. He's got a lot of wear and tear.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Taysom Hill does. But uh, Shawn's leaving tomorrow night for
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Canton to be part of Drew Brees's enshrinement ceremony festivities,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: and Taysom Hill and a lot of other former Saints
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: are going to be there. So Seawan is going to
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: talk to Taysom Hill there and he'll first try to
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: gauge are you even interested in playing? The one advantage
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: that Broncos have is their team physician did the surgery
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: for Taysom Hill and twenty twenty three, so they are
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty four rather, so they know what his recovery's
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: like because he's Taysom Hill has been here in Denver
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: for follow up visits with.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: The probably Jackson got him with his former coach. That
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: says hi and all that kind of thing.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's he's been here to visit their
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: team physician, okay, for the follow up, so they know
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: how his recovery's going.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: They know all that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But no hipposucker, no hippa. It's out there for everybody.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Sean Payton, Guys, he's got Willie
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Snead out here working with the wide receivers. Have you
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: spoken to the coaching staff to Sneed or any of
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the wide outs about his impact in camp thus far?
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: He's just starting his coaching career, so I think he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: probably in a lot more of an analytical type data
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: going through the film, practice, film and all those things.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: So but you know he you know, any player who
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: can offer perspective on this route in this playbook, these
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: are the decisions you need to make. That's always gonna help.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: So he can offer perspective there. But when guys are
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: just getting going in their coaching career, it's it's a
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: lot coming at him in there. In the first camp.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Sean says, nothing to see here for Jalen Wattle, who
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: right here on about the fifteen yard line pulled off
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: of a ball that was overthrown. He said like two
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: words to somebody with a water bottle and then walked
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: off the field. Didn't say anything to anybody else. Uh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Sean said, is don't be concerned. We think it's a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: muscle issue. But he always says that how concerned would you?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Guy could have a meteor hit him, movin he'd be
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: a great hockey coach. Yeah, yeah, doesn't want to give
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: anything there.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: When I was covering hockey or I would help in
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: the playoffs, I've never not covered football, but when I
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: would help in the playoffs, my theory always was that, uh,
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: whenever they discussed injuries in the playoffs, he went diagonal,
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: Like if they said it's right upper body, it was
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: the left leg. I always went diagonal, and you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: about seventy percent of the time it turned out to
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: be right. You're right about that, Like, so you use
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: that later, I will just go diagonal.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: And I don't think you're gonna be saying full leg
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: balled full credit. I was telling Ross this morning early.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I'm like, let's see, you've got a third string linebacker.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: And you say, coach, what about Smith? You know, I
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: you know he's being valued. What He's gonna be fine? Yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: But but coach, his leg from the knee down is
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: in the end zone and he's over on the forty
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: and they had to put his leg on a gator
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: and take it to the table.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: He'll be fine, It's a risk. Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: The all timer was when Josh was here, McDaniels was here,
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: and he tried to break the rules and institute upper
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: body lower body designation for injuries.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: You can't do that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: The league has a very specific policy about injuries because
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: they don't want the gambling to to may affect. But
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: so there in a game at the stadium, Orton gets
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: his hands smashed. It's bleeding, and they tell us in
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: the press box upper body injury, and that the next
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: second Orton is standing behind the bench holding his hand up,
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: blood running down his arm. At the second they said
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: upper body injury, Orton is standing like showing the coaches
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: in the press box that, like the other coaches were
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: up in the box, he's showing them that blood's running
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: down his arm.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: So it's the funniest thing. That was the last time
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: they did upper upper and.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Upper more body. Well, in the NHL, you still get
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: away with it. Go diagonal, don't diagonal. I did it
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: minor league. Even John ben Boxmere accused.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Me of of being in the training room when I
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: did it to him, and uh, how do you know?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: How do you know this Rochester America?
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: The things he said upper body, I said, so it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: his ankle and he took me to the double tape.
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: That's awesome, Leggy, thanks for hanging out with us for
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: a couple of segments.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Man, that's Jeff Legwald of ESPN. To get out of here,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: go to your hovel.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: This is this is a terrible spot. I can't function. Yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: but we have shaded. I mean, listen, I cannot function.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I gotta go get my hat. Would you like I'm
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: taking a lot of heat for my vented Super Bowl hats?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Are you really? Yeah?
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of old man jokes.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's all good man, Amen, yesteryear.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: People people telling you what grade they were in and
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: all that. I don't need.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: That in the third grade when that happened.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I haven't even born when you got that hat.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Good, good for you.
• 33:36
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• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Yes, Moj, I'm talking to Jesse. See this is where
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: you just don't get at, Alfonso. Can you just Stanley,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: let me help you out here? How you doing, Jesse?
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I'm good, Jesse, Truillo, everybody aka Alfonso. We were just
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: having a conversation Raj about a great show that we
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: both saw together, not together, but we were both there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: It was Earth Wind and Fire followed by Lionel Richie
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: last Friday at Ball Arena.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: That cool concert.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our friends, and it was killer. Did you like it?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I did? Yeah?
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I mean Lionel's getting up there a little bit, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: he still brought it, did he not? He's helping him
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: puffing on his oxygen thing like like Billy Joel did.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Why are you saying I don't get it?
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Because I'm showing Jesse my perspective in the It was,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: It's just so good, isn't it? But what does that
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: have to do because you don't know Earth, bro, you
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: don't know and you don't know nothing about her.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: No Earth, everybody on the planet. No September.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Well, okay, well they've have so many How many great
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: songs do they have?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Jesse? You can hit after a hit, after a hit,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: after a hit after hit, and of course when not
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: three knock them.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when Ron comes out and says, you know, and Denver,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Colorado's own Philip Bailey, and the crowd goes insane because
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Phil went to the East and it was buddies with Theory,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: the late great Theory Smith and man, it's just they
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: were God, I wish Theory was still here. He would
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: he would be happy that they're still killing it the
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: way they are, because Earth is still killing at Verdean White,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite bass players of all time, Jesse
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: did he not bring it?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: He's seventy five years old. Yeah, he brought it. You're
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: damn right, he brought it. My brother was really good
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: too when he was with her through the yeah fire.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: These guys are just legends, man, and that's what we
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: were talking about. So why don't you get caught up
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: on some good stuff in your life? Okay it's like no,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Roger is like this. Oh you know what, My life
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: is too good. I got too much good stuff in
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: my life. I don't have time to learn about Earth.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I don't understand anything that you said.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Camp out here.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, Well you're not seeing anything. They're gonna be in
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: not even me.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not seeing anything. I'm watching people warm up. They're
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: on pads on today.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: But some little little shells and running shorts around spiders
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: at the very most. And I will say this, so
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: it was good to see Nick Benito out there yesterday
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: walking around. He had his jersey on and his his sweatpants.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: But you know, I mean, he's out walking around fine,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: there's no boot, there's no nothing. He's totally good. Cortland
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: was throwing the ball around and he looks absolutely fine.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I have no reason to believe that it's not just
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: a couple of vet days in a row, none at all.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: And I have no reason to believe that Jalen Wattle
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: just didn't have some tightness and he pulled himself off
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: as to not cause any further damage.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I am trying to find Jalen Wattle on the field now. Again,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the whole team is not out here yet. They're filtering
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: out from the locker room. We're expected to see Courtland
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Sutton perform at practice today. I don't know what that
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: actually means for the wide receivers on a day where
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: you're not it's gonna be an easy day.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Right, easy days, easy, pasy, lemon, squeezy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: You're kind of resetting after three straight days of practice.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: But someton's gonna be out here. I'm hoping we see
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle back out here. I see Marvin Mims and
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: RG Harvey walking around.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Could this be like an off day for JK. Dobbins.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I would hope that he gets one. We haven't seen
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: veteran day from uh from Dobbins.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Well, look at with the scrimmage coming up on Saturday,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: you're you're gonna these next couple of days. I wouldn't
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: be surprised if tomorrow isn't just a kind of an
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: easy day as well. That that's not to say you
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: don't get your work in but you're you're it's not
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of stuff.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be quick.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be over within a jiffy, and then you're
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: gonna be you know, you're gonna be looking at film
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: and having some lunch in that sort of thing. So
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: it's yeah, today's sort of a just a chill, chill
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: day out here at Dove Allley.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Really interesting takes from Jeff Legwald.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: The the most interesting thing that we heard from Sean
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Payton yesterday and is his press or. Wasn't the comment about, hey,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Jayalen Wattle is gonna be fine. Wasn't the comment about
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: it was just two days for courtland Ston, he'll be
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: out there tomorrow. The comment was made on him being
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: like a little prickly about the sam Ellingers situation. Right,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: and leg you's sitting here saying listen, I know that
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: they have gone back and forth with who's got the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: two reps, but those were legit and he has looked
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: markedly better than Stidham has in his two reps thus
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: far in camp. I think sam Ellinger is the backup here.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Very well could be. He very well could be.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Look Sean Payton, I mean, he'll praise guys, but it's
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: also like manhole covers, you know. He went on about
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: how Sam has looked, and he I liked how he
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: called it the spaghetti sauce, right. I mean, you can
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: talk about the arm, but it's the other things.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: That he does.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: It's the ability to I mean, this is what coaches love,
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: luv love. You move the ball down the field, the
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: ball moves and you keep going. Right, His ability to
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: bounce out of the pocket and make things happen, the
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: way his brain works. He's not a baby anymore. He's
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: twenty seven years old, about to be twenty eight. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: this guy has been around now, and so look, I
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: just think it's it's interesting that that, you know, he
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: had a sure roster spot, but he stayed around here
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: to be able perhaps to get this out opportunity this year.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: And I'd sa something that our sauce needed.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. And I give the wink hey wants to
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: stick around. I give the wink to Legaies. I think
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: it's more than that he goes. I think that this
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: guy has a legit shot to be the number two
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: guy behind Bonix.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: It's not just Kawhi doing work for a spire.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Right exactly exactly. No, this guy, Uh, this guy's got
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: a legit shot. And I think that Peyton likes what
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: he sees. And again, I think his game matches what
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Knicks does more than Jared Stidham's game does.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I mean we've seen it. I think I see seventeen
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: walking out with his helmet in his left hand right there, Jesse,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: is that that's Courtland? Then he looks too small to
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: be Courtland. Oh no, you know why he looks too
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: small because he's standing next to that physical freak Keem Butler.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's why why Dude, King Butler is a
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: He's a giant.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: He's a big dude. He's six y five. What is he?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Sixty five and two thirty? Is that what he is?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Something like that.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: He's not gonna make the team.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: No, I know he's not gonna make the team.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: But he's thirty years old. He was a UFL was
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: a UFL leading receiver.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Is that what he was?
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's thirty years old, bro. I mean, let's
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: not let's not kid ourselves at this guy. Is you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: gonna come in and get snaps? I didn't really think
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: that at all, not even one time.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: You know, the other shocking body type that is out
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: here that he's gonna make the team, And it kind
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: of pisses you off because it's a roster spot that
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like you need to take up. It's
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Adam Prentiss. All these dudes are out here in shorts, right,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: everybody's out here in shorts. Adam Prentiss, who has the
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: biggest quads I have ever seen. And Mark and I
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: have worked in hockey for what a combined I've only
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: been here for ten years, but like a combined forty years.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yep.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That sport is full of gigantic quads. Adam Prentiss that much.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: But thank you very much, Mar. He's walking around in
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: compression shorts and these things are the size of my torsion.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that dude.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: You keep him on the roster just to be an
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: intimidating body type.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Well, he's one of those guys. He's one of those guys.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: We talked about Troupman, we talked about Little Jordan Humphrey,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: talked about Taysom Hill. You know what Adam Prentiss is, right,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: He's a Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints guy. So obviously
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Prentiss is one of his guys. That doesn't mean you
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: don't have to put in the work, but if there's
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: a spot to be had for a full back, Prentiss
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: is the guy. I mean, it's almost like what do
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: you call it, It's just like being willed into a
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: job because he's a Sean Payton kind of guy. Now,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: he doesn't play a ton. I was looking up his
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: career stats last year. He got into all seventeen games.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, but about but he.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Had six catches on eight targets for fifty three yards
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: on the season. That's it. That's all. And of course
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: he plays special teams.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Still no eyes on Jalen Waddle just yet.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Jesse, you gotta be a hawk of walking in here today.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: You know where that that picnic area is on the
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: on the walk down from the parking lot, that picnic
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: area on the right hand.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Side they do.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: There was a big old redtail hawk in there, just
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: mauing on a rabbit's head. Man just absolutely going to
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: town on this rabbit. He nailed him. He nailed the rabbit.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: And then he's just just like he's eating the Moon's
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: over my hammy at Denny's man just scarfing that rabbit.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Anything or anyone you are looking for in particular today
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: out of practice. The stars from yesterday, this.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Is my guy right there. And there's vix guy right
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: there at number fifty, that's my guy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: The defensive line stars yesterday, Malcolm Roach, Iomo Waserrique was
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: fantastic as well. In terms of your offensive studgs, Troy
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Franklin had probably his best or his second day or
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: second best day out at practice.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: RJ.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Harvey in the swing game now he was working with
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: the twos against twos and threes in the swing pass
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: game with Sam Ellnger was really really good. But anyone
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: in particular that you are looking for in a non
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: padded practice today, No, But I want to see the
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: offense pick it up a little bit, you know. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: think that they've gotten dominated lately. Yeah, And Leggy even
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: admitted it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: In Leggy's opinion, it's been like only one day that
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: the offense has won the day, right, That's what Legy thought.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: And he thinks the defense has probably had the better
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: of the offense a lot on a couple of days
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: and then a little on a couple of other days.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: You got your eyes on him. Just what do you see, Alfonso?
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Give us a four point no helmet, But he's in
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a jersey in shorts.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well he's out there walking around walking.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: So we're talking about Jaylen Waddle.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Kind of doing what Nick, Benito and Sutton we're doing
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: over the past couple of days.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, so there you go. So at least he's out
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: there on the field, that's really good news. And of
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: course there's Marvin Mims. He's always going to.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Be out there. That guy's a robot. Love that guy.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Cortland's out there doing what he did Yesterday's just throwing
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: the football around.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: So everybody's looking fine.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: I don't see Benito, but I'm sure he's out there
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: scuffling around, and it seems like everybody's gonna be there.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: It's good Nelly. Before we get out of here, where
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: did we go wrong? Today? My friend.
• 43:51
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• 44:03
  Speaker 9: Today, it's going to be like the show the Producers,
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: because it's where did we go right? Earlier, Moser used
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: a big word that blew the mind of one of
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: our texters from Georgia, and the texter sent us a
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: message along the lines of what was that bleepin big
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: bleeping word that Mosu're just bleep and used a lot
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: of bleeps a lot of love for this big word,
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: and what was that word you used?
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Moser?
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: Let's let's take a listen back.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: I like DJ Jones. I like his personality. He's he's
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: very gregarious. He's a damn good football player.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: So the word gregarious means sociable or being good with
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: other people, outgoing, friendly, happy in crowds.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I put it a happy, go lucky, you know, approachable,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: apple affable.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: That's not a fact.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: I hope affable is not too big of a word
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: at affable kind of dude.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Got that right?
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: Wait, what what's called that? Steve Nelson go to he's
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: impressed by gregarious?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: No, no text forg Georgia. Wall Oh, that makes way
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: more sense.
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: Why didn't you pipe down Syracuse? You just rolled up
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: on your bike and he stunk up the media room.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: You're trying to make fun of my degree from CEU
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: pipe down their orange?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: It got it, Steve? You got it? Hey, d Mack guy,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and we'll turn it over to you.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: But everybody's out there, so it's you know, almost everybody's
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen be there.
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: Where's fifteen seventeen.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: He's walking around, he's got a shorts on his jersey.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: But oh, okay, so I participated.
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: Oh, he definitely is if he doesn't have a helmet.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Am I right?
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: My right coach, your third string linebacker Smith, Yeah, he
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: would be fine. It's being a value wab'd be fine. Yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: but coach, yeah, coach, his right leg is in the
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: end zone. He's on the fifteen. They have to put
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: his leg on a gator to take it over the
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: He's fine.
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: And T s h nothing to see here training Kim
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: twenty twenty six.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: I heard you guys talking about the Sa'm like, tell
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: me that's not for real. No, you are so right
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: on the damn money with that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: It's awesome to be so eerie for you guys to
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: be watching and listening to Mike Sanford going Jayla Wattle
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: doesn't it's a weird day for Jaalen Wattle. Does he
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: want to be out here? Is there something wrong? And
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: then a play happens and it was almost evolving into
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: like is this a is this a mindset? Is this
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: a bad attitude thing? And then he goes, oh no,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: he's just not like there's something going wrong with him,
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  Speaker 3: and he walks off the field.
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  Speaker 10: I gotta say, I've never done play by play of
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  Speaker 10: a camp entry crazy as like before it happened.
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  Speaker 2: To set it up, you know, I felt like Tony
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Romo's sober, you know, I.
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  Speaker 10: Could see it happening, or Mike Samfrey could or maybe
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: that's Tony Romo after a couple maybe maybe that's the secret,
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: you know. And then to see it like to talk
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: about it set like Moser doing play by play, like
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: he just knows it before it's gonna happen. You can,
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: you can just tell. And so you say, all right,
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: I'm smarter than the average Barrel'll set it up. We're
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  Speaker 10: gonna score a goal here, or a goal you know
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: what it is in hockey, it's always the goal.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Scored against the abs. Yeah you can you know, you
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: could feel it, you know what I mean. And it
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: was like that, it was like that.
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  Speaker 5: You can you can see it coming. Yeah, yepnd percent,
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  Speaker 5: all right, dude, we'll turn it over to.
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  Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for us today. Stay tuned, Don't
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  Speaker 3: go anywhere More d MAC next to the training camp
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  Speaker 3: showing Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five from Oje Homorje
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  Speaker 3: later