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Best Of Dear Chelsea: Lindsey Vonn · Dear Chelsea

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  Speaker 1: Oh, hello, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Buenos tardes, I mean buenos I don't even know what
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sick of my bell correcting me in my
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  Speaker 1: fucking Spanish.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, she corrects everything I say, but she's
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  Speaker 2: not correcting me to speak proper Spanish. She speaks slang
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  Speaker 2: Spanish admittingly. She says to me, well, this is how
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: we speak in Mexico. And I'm like, great, but I'm
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: trying to learn Spanish for Spain and true. And I
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  Speaker 2: also don't want to point out that I don't ever
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  Speaker 2: correct her fucking English, never and never say oh no
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  Speaker 2: that words, those words go in the opposite direction or anything.
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  Speaker 2: But she is riding me like a wave. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: we will get off my jock. I'm like, do you
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  Speaker 2: want me to learn Spanish? Or don't you if you keep.
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  Speaker 1: Putting up these barriers? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: And she just loves it, though, But I gotta give
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  Speaker 2: it to her, like I know that that must be
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  Speaker 2: satisfying for her to be able to correct me all
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  Speaker 2: the time, tell me what to do. And you asked
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  Speaker 2: her to it, Well, yeah, I said I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: speak Spanish.
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  Speaker 1: You could let me slide a little bit with my grammar.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what I love. I'm such a grammarian.
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  Speaker 2: I care so much about grammar that I really want.
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  Speaker 2: I want to speak proper Spanish anyway, It's just it's
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  Speaker 2: too much of a beginner's Spanish to be there yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, what have I learned this week? I learned about
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  Speaker 1: Cuba and sugar.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, tell me about well, you know, after this, I
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  Speaker 2: learned all about Spain.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I have to promote a show April twenty. It's Spokane.
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  Speaker 2: That's the second show we added in Spokane. It's not
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  Speaker 2: quite sold out, so please buy your tickets, you motherfuckers.
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  Speaker 2: And what other shows do I need to promote? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they're all really almost sold out. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That
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  Speaker 2: one's not sold out yet. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That's a
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  Speaker 2: big one, that's like.
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  Speaker 1: Ten thousand people.
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  Speaker 2: I can't so yeah, go to Chelsea Heler dot com.
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  Speaker 2: There are some tickets for some other shows. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to add a whole bunch of new
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  Speaker 2: dates I think.
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  Speaker 1: Sometime this month.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard to figure out where I am.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was in Cuba, So I learned all
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  Speaker 2: about the Spanish conquering Cuba and then the English conquering Cuba,
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  Speaker 2: and then they had a treaty and they gave Cuba
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  Speaker 2: back to Spain, and then they kept Florida, and then
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  Speaker 2: they kept the Lower Mississippi some areas around there, and
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  Speaker 2: then they discovered sugar during the Atlantic slave trade, which
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  Speaker 2: was started by the English.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to say that, make sure.
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  Speaker 2: We keep that mentioned so that people fucking understand history,
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  Speaker 2: because I am so confused about so many things. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, didn't we all come from Egypt to
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  Speaker 2: my brother one day He's like, no, you asshole, And
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  Speaker 2: so now I'm reading a book.
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  Speaker 1: Then we all came from Africa. Everybody came from Africa. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, the sugar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Cuba was the center of sugar for a
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  Speaker 2: long time. Slaves were responsible for all of the prosperity
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  Speaker 2: of the United States, beginning the United States and basically
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  Speaker 2: taking all of the sugar cane, hacking it, cutting it,
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  Speaker 2: transferring it, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's when the Atlantic slave.
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  Speaker 2: Trade peaked, was during the sugar I want to say rush,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think it's called a rush.
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  Speaker 4: I like calling it a sugar rush.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sugar rush.
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  Speaker 4: That's a different gun.
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  Speaker 1: That's a difference. That's something too. So yeah, there's that.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm learning about Neanderthals and Denisovans and Anatolia
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  Speaker 2: and Homo erectus and how we all kind of changed
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  Speaker 2: and when we split off, like right before Homo erectus
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  Speaker 2: we split off, we diverged. One became chimpanzees and the
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  Speaker 2: other became modern humans. Oh my god, short history of
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  Speaker 2: humanity is called I need.
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  Speaker 4: To read what you're reading, because like, as a kid
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  Speaker 4: who grew up going to Christian school, where we had
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  Speaker 4: let's say, a warped and abbreviated version of science, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't even know that like Pangaea existed until I was
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  Speaker 4: in college. I remember saying to a teacher once, why
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  Speaker 4: does it look like the two, you know, halves of
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  Speaker 4: the earth would fit together? And they're like, that's just
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: a funny thing God did. Like that kind of stuff
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  Speaker 4: was what I grew up.
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  Speaker 2: I also believed that we were Everything was connected, even
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  Speaker 2: the islands, and not all the islands like Sardinia Corsica
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  Speaker 2: were never part of the mainland.
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  Speaker 4: They were just like they were volcanic.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so they have their own thing going.
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  Speaker 2: So that's interesting too that that would naturally happen, that
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  Speaker 2: there would be elands sprinkled everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I guess I got such bad
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  Speaker 4: science education. I didn't even remember the word for continence.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the halves of the world. It's just wild.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is wild.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you know you read something and you retain.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be interested in my level of retainment. I want
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  Speaker 2: to take tests after every book I read to see
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  Speaker 2: how much I took in.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're trying to send you back to college.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't some sort of curriculum quite frankly, Okay, what
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  Speaker 2: do we got.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening to me?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Chelsea, I had had my.
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  Speaker 1: Ski buddy on today, but I won't tell you that
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  Speaker 1: is until she's on.
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  Speaker 4: That's very exciting. So, Chelsea, I had an email come
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  Speaker 4: in about Dana, who had called in her step son
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  Speaker 4: was being sort of vaguely creepy and yes, yes, and
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  Speaker 4: she mentioned like he was maybe being able to touch
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  Speaker 4: you peely with her son. And I just thought this
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  Speaker 4: email was so important that I wanted to share it
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  Speaker 4: with you. Heather says, hello, Chelsea, and Catherine, I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to say thank you for providing the audience with the
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  Speaker 4: mother that called in about her steps on she feels
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  Speaker 4: uncomfortable around. While I had no doubt this would be
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  Speaker 4: your response, I truly appreciate you not minimizing the seriousness
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  Speaker 4: of needing to take action to protect her younger son,
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  Speaker 4: self and family. I'm also in awe of the mother's
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  Speaker 4: strength to reach out for advice, because that is so tricky.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like it's this sort of nebulous thing.
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  Speaker 4: My personal story includes eight plus years of a very
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  Speaker 4: close family friend grooming me as a child with uncomfortable touching,
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  Speaker 4: inappropriate sexual conversations for an adult to have with a child,
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  Speaker 4: shower peeping, accidental quote unquote porn exposure, and more. While
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  Speaker 4: rape never occurred, it has left years worth of trauma
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  Speaker 4: response that I'm working through with a great therapist. However,
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  Speaker 4: at the time it was brushed off by others as
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  Speaker 4: creepy old man vibes or that shoulder or waiste touching
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  Speaker 4: wasn't considered a sexual touch even if I didn't want it.
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: I think I was meant to hear this podcast today
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: as my therapy session this week was focused on my
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  Speaker 4: continued struggle with not freezing in a moment when someone
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  Speaker 4: touches me in a suggestive but not legally sexual way.
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  Speaker 4: The mother listening to her intuition and taking charge to
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  Speaker 4: keep her young son safe could have a huge impact
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  Speaker 4: on her son's future. It's something I wish would have
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  Speaker 4: happened for myself. Her older steps on clearly also needs support,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm thankful you communicated to prioritize safety of family
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  Speaker 4: while acknowledging his need for help too. It's these conversations
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  Speaker 4: and stories that I hope will help others think differently
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  Speaker 4: on the impact these quote unquote micro traumas can have
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  Speaker 4: over time. Thanks so much for your awesomeness and sharing
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  Speaker 4: both the funny and needed stories of our lives. Heather.
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  Speaker 2: I like how she said micro trauma because I learned
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  Speaker 2: about complex trauma from a friend of mine over the
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  Speaker 2: weekend who I hung out with, and he was telling
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  Speaker 2: me about complex trauma is trauma over time, right, like
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  Speaker 2: neglect or alcoholism or drug addiction, something like that that
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  Speaker 2: you lay witness to.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a sibling that has a terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Schizophrenia, that would be complex trauma, which is different than
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  Speaker 2: event trauma rights and PTSD is related to event trauma.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to underline the intuition part because more
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  Speaker 2: and more people are talking about intuition and understanding that
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  Speaker 2: it is a very concrete, if.
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  Speaker 1: Not measurable thing.
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  Speaker 2: And for every woman and man that is listening to
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  Speaker 2: all our gaze.
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  Speaker 1: You all have it.
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  Speaker 2: We all have intuition. We all have a feeling in
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  Speaker 2: our stomach and our gut. Sometimes it's in your heart,
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  Speaker 2: or it feels like in your heart, but it is
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  Speaker 2: really in your gut when you meet someone, and it's
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  Speaker 2: the exact opposite of the feeling you get when you
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  Speaker 2: know something's wrong, when somebody comes into your space a
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  Speaker 2: person and you know they're dangerous right away you see
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  Speaker 2: that they're sketchy, or that they're unhinged, or that they're unpredictable.
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  Speaker 1: That feeling right there.
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  Speaker 2: You can also have in the opposite way about something
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  Speaker 2: you should do, or somebody you should move towards, or
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  Speaker 2: a thing that is right, And if you really listen
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  Speaker 2: to yourself, you are going to know what that is.
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  Speaker 2: And we don't talk about intuition in the way that
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  Speaker 2: we need to, because young girls need to trust their intuition.
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  Speaker 2: They need to trust the way that their body feels,
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  Speaker 2: because your body will tell your brain what is happening.
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  Speaker 1: And it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's such a concrete thing. It's like you when you're
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  Speaker 4: in a certain situation or you're around someone who makes
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  Speaker 4: you uncomfortable, it turns into a physical reaction. Your stomach
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  Speaker 4: gets in and not your hair goes up on the
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  Speaker 4: back of your neck.
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  Speaker 2: Like trust your changes. The way you're holding yourself and
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  Speaker 2: carrying yourself changes, like.
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  Speaker 4: The body is communicating with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I fold my arms when I'm in
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  Speaker 2: a conversation and I realize how off putting that is.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's the definition of being defensive, is having your arms,
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  Speaker 2: even if that's a comfortable position for you. That's how
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of received most of the time. And that's
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  Speaker 2: because my body's doing it. My body is saying, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable in this conversation, and you have to listen
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  Speaker 2: to those signals or you know, sometimes it's just ego,
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  Speaker 2: like oh they're saying something that I don't like or
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  Speaker 2: in the great.
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  Speaker 1: Way or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's a great conversation for any
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  Speaker 2: parents listening to have with your young children. Yeah, following
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  Speaker 2: your gut. It is so important, especially with situations like
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  Speaker 2: the ones we're just talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Where it's not illegal, it's not illicit, but it is
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  Speaker 4: something that is having an effect and an impact on
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  Speaker 4: that child or that adult. You know, this can happen
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  Speaker 4: in adult situations as well. One really helpful listener, Tatiana,
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  Speaker 4: wrote in saying some of the early warning signs of
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  Speaker 4: psychosis are a worrisome drop in grades or job performance,
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  Speaker 4: trouble thinking clearly, suspiciousness or uneasiness with others, a decline
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  Speaker 4: in self care or personal hygiene, spending a lot more
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  Speaker 4: time alone than usual, and strong inappropriate emotions are having
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  Speaker 4: no feelings at all. And I think that's a really
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  Speaker 4: important thing to point out as well, because that age
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: they said, like twenty seven right around there, that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of when some mental illnesses will present themselves to people.
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  Speaker 4: So thanks to everyone who wrote in about that. So
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  Speaker 4: I thought this was so important to highlight and really
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  Speaker 4: paying attention to, you know, those little things and if
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  Speaker 4: someone says I'm uncomfortable, like listening to them and seeing
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  Speaker 4: what needs to what Steff's need to be taken.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, So who's our first guest Okay, our first guest.
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  Speaker 1: We it's our only guest. I forgot that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: on a TV show right now. Our guest today.
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  Speaker 2: Is a friend of mine, a good friend of mine,
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  Speaker 2: and she's an Olympic gold medalist and she's a skier.
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  Speaker 2: But before I introduce her, I really want to mention
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  Speaker 2: her philanthropy. She has a foundation called a Lindsay Vaughn Foundation,
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  Speaker 2: which empowers underserved girls with camps, scholarships and more. So
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  Speaker 2: please make sure you are aware of that and check
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  Speaker 2: it out. She wrote a great book which everyone should read.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Rise.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, please welcome Lindsay vat Ah.
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  Speaker 1: There she is, Miss America.
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  Speaker 2: I was hoping that I was gonna interrupt you your
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  Speaker 2: ski day today.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm in Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. I have a dilemma.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm glad you brought up Florida because for my
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: new tour, I was just on the phone with my
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  Speaker 2: agents this morning and they were going over routing for
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: the fall dates that were going to announce later, and
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  Speaker 2: Florida was on the list. And I said, guys, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about Florida anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, well, do you really want.
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  Speaker 2: To punish the people in Florida, Like you have people
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  Speaker 2: you every time you go, you go to like six
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  Speaker 2: stops of Florida. I'm like, no, I don't. I don't
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: want to punish the people of Florida. They're being punished enough.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: But I feel like as a statement, I just have
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: to say fuck off. Like when is enough enough? Like
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: all of this legislation, Like I feel like DeSantis needs
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: to know. Certain people aren't going to come. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: they don't care about me. But if more people do it,
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  Speaker 2: But then there's the argument that you're affecting revenue, you're
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  Speaker 2: affecting people's jobs, you're affecting people's lifestyle. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: really know what the right answer is. If anybody listening
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  Speaker 2: has feelings on this, please DM me. Actually, DM lindsay,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: shall I go through them first and then she'll read
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  Speaker 2: them to me?
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing in Orlando?
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  Speaker 5: I'm speaking, you know, Apparently some people want my advice
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  Speaker 5: for some reason. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it. You're a champion. We were just watching
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  Speaker 2: your night race at k I'll say.
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  Speaker 1: The streef, the streef in cloth kids, fool kids, puel kits.
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  Speaker 5: Fuel Yes, kids fuel the strife. Yes, good job guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this video is of you skiing the world's
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  Speaker 4: hardest ski run. You were not only the first woman
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  Speaker 4: to do it, but you also did it in the dark,
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  Speaker 4: just to make it more insane. This video is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I'll put a link to it in the show notes.
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  Speaker 3: It's a hard one.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I've not run into one American that has gotten
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  Speaker 5: it right so far. But it's okay. The effort was there.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate you well.
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  Speaker 1: It's also a hard line to ski. It's it's not
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  Speaker 1: even a line.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what the fuck you would call
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  Speaker 2: what you do, but it is so so hardcore, it's
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  Speaker 2: so bad. As I mean, all my ski buddies from
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  Speaker 2: Whistler who are real ski you know, like they know
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  Speaker 2: how to ski and they are just like you have.
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  Speaker 2: When that video came out, we must have watched it
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  Speaker 2: like fifteen times. If you haven't seen it, she did
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  Speaker 2: it with Red Bull. You can watch it on Lindsay's Instagram,
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: which you should be following her anyway, because you put.
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  Speaker 1: Out great content.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you powder skiing the other day and I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, how do you because if you
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: spent your life training, you know, downhill and solom and
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff that you do, do you spend a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time in powder before you retire?
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  Speaker 5: Oh No, I never powder skied because I was so
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  Speaker 5: worried that I would hurt myself. And some of the
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: other athletes would go powder skiing, like if our race
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  Speaker 5: was canceled because of so much No, you know, definitely,
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  Speaker 5: I would say some of the girls would go, like
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  Speaker 5: people that are from California that grew up skiing powder,
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  Speaker 5: But I didn't grow up skiing powder. I'm from Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: There's not one powder day in the entire season. It's
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  Speaker 5: mostly man man and you're cool as hell. So I
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  Speaker 5: just I love skiing, you know, and it's powder is
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  Speaker 5: a lot easier on my knees. And while it's not
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  Speaker 5: something that you know, I've grown up with, I just
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  Speaker 5: I love it and it's fun and it's the most
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  Speaker 5: exciting thing that I can do outside of racing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, powder skiing is really fucking fun. And you know
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  Speaker 2: what is so fun about it, or so funny about
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  Speaker 2: it is that when you learn how to ski technically,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: as Lindsay can speak to way more than I can.
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  Speaker 1: But from what little I've gleaned.
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  Speaker 2: Everything you learn about regular skiing goes out the window.
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  Speaker 2: When you ski powder, you know, you're not on an agle,
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  Speaker 2: you're not turning, You're bouncing like a bunny rabbit through
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  Speaker 2: the snow and just like hopping like boom boo boo.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like leaning back. It's the exact opposite that
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  Speaker 5: any instructor would ever teach you. It's all just lean
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  Speaker 5: back and ride the wave. It's like surfing. It's pretty
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  Speaker 5: funny because your point is the exact opposite of what
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  Speaker 5: you've been told, what you've been taught, and just throw
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  Speaker 5: it all out the window. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you've been through a lot and you've been
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  Speaker 2: injured a lot, and I want to talk a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I know you.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Lindsay wrote a.
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  Speaker 2: Great book about her whole life, her autobiography, and in
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  Speaker 2: it you talk a lot about your recoveries from many
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  Speaker 2: different accidents, and I want to know obviously you were
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  Speaker 2: mentally tough. You couldn't survive all of this and continue
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: to go back out there, especially what you just skied,
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  Speaker 2: and kidspoel like.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: You said, I mean, I think you said you had
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: like your surgery ready to go in case you did
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: wipe out and hurt yourself.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm getting my knee replaced, so I
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: figured this was a perfect time to do it, because
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: if I crash and I need surgery, I'm getting it anyway,
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: so I don't mind risking it. But I've had my
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: fair share of surgeries. I mean, you've hurt your knee,
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: you know, you know the deal. But I don't think
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: it's ever impacted my passion for ski racing or for
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: skiing in general. I just love the mountain. I just
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: wish it had been a little bit easier on my body.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: But I don't have any regrets. You know, despite the
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: fact that I limp around most of the time, I
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: still wouldn't change anything.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the mindset that allows you to
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: do that, because you work out really hard, so I
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: know your body's been beaten up, but you still have
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: a significant amount of strength left and determination in order
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to keep all of that going, which I think is
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: really vital for I think all women, you know what
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, with like our physicality, It's like you get
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: an injury and you can.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Be so down on yourself.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: First of all, it's depressing and you're immobile, and then
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: you're taking pills and you're you know, you're trying to
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: recuperate and all of that is like a real negative
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: downer on you. So to be able to pick yourself
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: back up that from that, not once, but repeatedly is
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: very admirable.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: And to keep going.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of people who get
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: into an accident, they don't want to ever do that
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: thing again. And it's like, oh, I want to do
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: that thing right away again because I don't want to
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: be scared of it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I mean I think to your point, a
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: lot of people can get down and I got very down.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: I mean I got really depressed when I was injured.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I missed the Olympics. I was injured back to back acls,
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: which took me out for almost two years in a row.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: And it's really hard to find anything positive, you know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: when you especially when you repeatedly get injured, like what
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: am I doing?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Why am I doing this? And it's hard to find
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: the motivation. But I think for me it always goes
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: back to passion, you know why I love ski racing
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: and I've always had and that's why I kept doing
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: it and kept coming back, but it doesn't make the
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: recovery any easier. You know, it's always with rehab, it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: always two steps forward, one step back, and sometimes one
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: step forward two steps back. You know, it's a very monotonous, long,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: slow grind, and I just have learned through repetition that
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: you just have to stick to it and keep going,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: you know, keep putting one foot in the front in
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: front of the other, and that's the only thing you
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: can do, honestly.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: And your transition since you've retired has been You're still
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: really involved with the US ski team. You're still really
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: involved in skiing. You're skiing with people all the time
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: in Utah Vale or you know, all over the place,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And so tell me it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about that transition for you,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: because I know, as an athlete or I don't know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I can imagine how difficult it must be to say
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: goodbye to that part of your life. But in a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: way you've kind of extended it in a way that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen many people do publicly.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt like when I retired,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: a part of me died, you know, it was something
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: where I knew I could never go back, and I've
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: been doing it my entire life. I've been skiing since
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I was two and a half years old. And after
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: I retired, I woke up and what I loved to
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: do every day was suddenly gone, and I had to
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: really figure out, Okay, what is it about ski racing
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: that I loved? I love being on the mountain. So
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: it took me about a year and a half, but
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: I got back out there and I relearned my passion
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: for the sport as a whole, and I enjoyed skiing
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: with my family, with my friends. I've gone to places
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: now that I've been many times before, but I've never
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: actually skied. I've been to Courschevelle, I've rached there many, many,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: many times, but I've never been anywhere other than the
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: race trail. So I got to go back and explore
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: the mountain and you know, find my passion again. And
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, for me, I don't like sitting
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: still downhill. I always had adrenaline and that was really
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: hard to replace. But I've found ways to challenge myself
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: and you know, push myself now in business and just
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: keep again, like waking up every day with a new challenge,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: and that's been exciting. It's you know, I feel like
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: there's so many opportunities and I'm excited for the future.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: To be honest, yeah, I know.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I like watching what you've been doing in the last
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: couple of years. And we've known each other for a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: long time actually, and it feels like you have really
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: found your groove and like all of these opportunities, your philanthropy,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: your foundation, and all of the business opera tunities that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you have cultivated for yourself is a great model I
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: think for a lot of younger athletes who are probably
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: looking going, oh, she made this like so seamless, you know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely wasn't seamless. I mean, I can't tell
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: you how hard it was. You know, as a ski racer,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: we don't we don't make money. There's no money in
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: ski racing. So I had to really work hard to
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: make a business for myself. And my dad always made
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: me aware when I was younger that if I wanted
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: to be successful, I had to be more than an athlete,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and so I always took that approach. I always want
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: the extra mile. I always did all the interviews, you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: I was really careful with my sponsorships, what partnerships I chose,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: always thinking long term. And I was actually made fun of.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people were like, why are
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: you spending so much time with this, You know, you're
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: distracted from your racing, And I said, no, I can
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: do both. I can win races, I can have my
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: own business. I can be successful on multiple levels at
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: the same time. And I think, you know, just believing
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: in myself and not listening to anyone else was was
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: the best thing that I could do, because I wouldn't
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: be anywhere if I'd listened to every single person that
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: said I wouldn't do anything, or couldn't be anything, or
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: you know, couldn't multitask. Women are great multitaskers.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, fucking tell me about it. I mean, honestly, like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: women are so much better. When I was at the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: doctors this morning, and I would ask him one question
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and then he just stopped everything he was doing to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: answer the question. And I looked at him and I
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: wanted to say, keep keep keep going, like don't we
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: don't have to do separate things, like you can work
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and talk, can't.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You after like get it together?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, women are just like you know, you're eating
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a hard boiled egg, feeding your dog, getting on a plane, like,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: we're doing a million things at once. And it's so
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: crazy to me that they cannot talk and think at.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: The same time.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: They can't even fathom what we do. It's pretty n no.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I know your mom was a big influence on you.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I know you posted something today about her and her
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: determination and how she inspired you and showed you what
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: determination looked like.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit about that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think my mom impacted me in more
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: ways than I even really truly understand now, and I
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: think now that she's passed away, it's been a few months,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: and you know, I still always reflect on what she
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: showed me. My mom had a stroke when she gave
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: birth to me, and she wasn't able to do physically
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the things with me that I would have loved to
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: do with her, like ski She couldn't ride a bike.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: The only thing she really could do what she loved
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: was swimming, which I'm ironically horrible at I think like
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: a rock. But you know, my mom always tried and
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: she failed, but she always tried. She would try to
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: ride a bike and I would watch your fall over
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: and over and over again. But she always got back up,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: and she always tried, and she always had a smile,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: and she always was positive. And even when you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: she was in her hospital bed and she couldn't move
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: her arms or legs, she was positive and she said,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: you know, today is another great day. And it got
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: harder and harder, but she never lost that perspective. And
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I felt like when I was injured, I was lucky
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: to have the opportunity to try again. You know, my
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: mom didn't have that opportunity because of her stroke. So
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I think throughout my career it's always given me a
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: different sense of gratefulness that I think, you know, sometimes
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: we lose sight of. I'm lucky to follow my passion
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: every single day. I'm lucky that I'm walking and I'm
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: you know, while I hate running, I could run if
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I wanted to. It could always be worse, and you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: we just have to be positive. And that's always what
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: my mom taught me. And I'm very grateful for her influence.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: And again, well I didn't really fully understand it when
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I was growing up. I certainly understood it now, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I wish i'd had a little more time with her
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: to be able to share more things with her.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you continue to understand it the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: longer we're without our moms. You know, when my mom
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: passed away, I certainly was too young to even understand
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: on the impact. I remember be talking in this interview
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: about somebody asking me why I'm so strong, And I
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: remember talking because I saw the way my mother and
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: my dad's dynamic was and I didn't like that. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that is just so diminishing to my mother, because my
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: mother sacrificed so much, you know, to be our mother
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to not you know, she didn't get to live and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: pursue her dreams the way that I'm able to live
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and pursue my dreams.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: The reason I'm able to do that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Is because of my mother. And so I remember I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: was reading this book recently. It's called The Seven Deadly Sins.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: We're having this author on She's awesome, and it just
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: talks about how we don't give our mothers enough credit
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: for even just the time that they grew up and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the time that they raised us in It was so
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: prohibitive for them. Yet here are people that are able
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: to like live out their dreams and go after what
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: they want because our mothers were available to give us
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the allowance and the freedom to do that, and if
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: they hadn't sacrificed what they had. And I don't think
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that's even just beginning to sink in for me. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I do feel like we talk a lot about, you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: people who have passed on on the show, and you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how spirritual you are, but I know
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: that you're open minded. And I feel like my relationship
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: with my mother since she died is stronger than it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: was when we were together on this earth. And there
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: are so many moments where I just feel her presence
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: so much guiding me and steering me, like in this
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: very sagacious, worldly way, which she was not like when
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I was growing up. But that's exactly who she was,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: according to my brothers and sisters. I just never had
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the patience or the time to find that out about
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: my mother, you know, because by the time she had.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Me, she was older.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: So I have to say, like, the idea that relationships
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: can even strengthen beyond them being here on earth, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: totally believe to be true. And I hope you feel
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that too, and are open to those signs and signals
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and like, you know, the stillness sometimes when you feel
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: another person's presence is really just so powerful.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: And my mom actually lost her mom when she was
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: young as well, and when she was in the hospital,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: she said, I want you after I'm gone, to talk
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: to me as if I'm there, and I will be
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: there and I will listen, just like my mom was
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: there listening to me. And it gave me a lot
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: of comfort. And you know, I when I ever I
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: want to call her, I just I just talked to her.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: She's there.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, she is. Yeah, it's so sweet. I believe
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that our moms are there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they're hanging out and your mom isching my mom something,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: you know, hopefully.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Listening to the podcast right now. Blah blah, crying.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, thank you for sharing, Thank you for being candid.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like we just had this moment.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: We were.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Last time we saw each other.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: We were on the Kelly Clarkson Show or no, was
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it Kelly class was Kelly Clark with Wolfgang Fuck And
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: we were talking about her book and she started crying,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: and then of course I started crying because it's contagious
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and so now we're just crying whenever we see each other.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, anyway, we're going to take some callers.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: We're gonna call in and we're gonna give them some advice,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and we've curated this episode to suit things that you would.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Have experience with.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, and we'll take a break and grab some
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: cleanex and be right back.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And we're back.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: We'refrect Are we ready to continue?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: We're doing okay?
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, i'd be great.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Well, our first question comes from Rachel in Denver, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: she obviously, somehow a month before we talked about getting
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: you on the show, knew that you were going to
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: come on.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: She manifested it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: And so she says thank you in advance for reading
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: my letter. I'm hoping Lindsay Vaughn makes an appearance on
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: the podcast, so this question is written to both Chelsea
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: and Lindsay. Dear Chelsea and Lindsay. I'm a thirty three
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: year old single female living in the Denver area of
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Colorado with my dog Hide. My main hobbies are mountain
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: biking and skiing, but I love staying active in general.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: A year ago, I ended a toxic long term relationship.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Even though it was a crazy past year, I was
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: actually able to achieve one of my life goals, which
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: was buying a second house and turning both of my
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: houses into airbnbs. It's been incredible to make the leap
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: and finally do what I've been dreaming of. Owning and
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: running these two businesses while still having my full time job.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Has allowed me to start saving for my second life goal,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: which is to take a mini retirement before I'm forty
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: so I can travel the world mountain biking and skiing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: This leads me right.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: This leads me to my first question, which is what
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: are your tips for being a single, solo female traveler.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I want to be able to make new friends and
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: ski and mountain bike wherever I travel to. In particular,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: how can I make friends with guys who like these
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: activities without looking like I'm interested in them. My second
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: question is do you have any recommendations on a good
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: ski jacket and bib Combo. I've had my same ski
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: outfit since college and it's starting to fall apart. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: took Chelsea's advice and got some heated gloves this season.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: They've been life changing, so I'm curious what ski apparel
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: brands you like best. I want to look good a
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: really warm while out there.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Rachel.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me answer the last part first, because
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Lindsay sent me her fucking suit which is called core
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: right by it it's by Head, but Lindsay designed it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: This is the best ski suit I have ever had.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: It's two pieces, but it has it's Is it gore
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: tex or is it something stronger than gortex, because I.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Think I think it's something similar but stronger.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have gortex suits and they're not like this,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and I love Arctarics, that's what I usually wear. This
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: is better than Arctarics. This not only keeps the cold
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the wet out, it keeps the wind out. It's somehow
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: fucking windproof this suit. And Whistler has very strange weather patterns,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: so there's a lot of really like Arctic blasts, and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it gets really cold.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Most people don't like to ski in that. I love that,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: but this keeps me warm.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And this scuit, I mean this suit, Lindsay. Everyone stopped me.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I've never worn a suit so many days in a row,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and then I wore this suit.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I know, I actually noticed that I'm like, Wow, she
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: doesn't stop worrying it. She must like it because you
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: normally change like every single day, which I do too,
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: so I get it. But I appreciate the support. That
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: was like a great that was a great ad life.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: It's just the best suit. And I'm not full of shit.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I love it so much, like I you literally wouldn't
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: wear it if you didn't like it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I know that, Yes, you do know that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And I'll just all the details, even around the knees,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: like that little roushing and then like the bottom couffs, everything,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the pockets.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Everything is perfect on this jacket.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And when you ski, like you know, if you're protecting
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the back of your helmet, which I learned like how
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to keep you know, you always want to trap heat
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: when it's really cold. This suit is just like it's
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: almost like a NASA suit. That's how I felt like.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I just felt tougher. So everybody who anybody who's listening
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that wants to ski, yeah, please look into her. Go
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: find Does it come in different colors or is that
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: one color?
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's it's in like forest green and
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: baby blue and yellow and black. Oh great, Oh perfect,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: that's nice. Y, So I'll have to send you some
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: more colors so you can rotate instead of just having
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: every single day. Although green's my favorite color, so I
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: do think you look great at that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty color. And let me know how
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that knee surgery goes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Also, because I'm interested in possibly replacing my knees at
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: some point both of them.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Yes you should. I mean I know a lot of
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: people that have had it, and they've all raved about it,
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: so I am very excited. I'm always limited with what
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I can do physically because of my knee, and I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: excited to hopefully not have that in the future.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Plus, you're so good at recovering from surgeries, like this
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: is going to be a please from you.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: I can do my own rehab.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, So the first part of that woman's question.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the first part was how does she get
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: into groups and meet guys without there thinking they're into them?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I don't, right, Well, that's a separate issue. The first issue.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: First of all, you should join Strata if you have it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: If you're not on Strata, because that's a great bike
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: riding community where you can compare speeds, meet people, talk
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to people who.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Are in the area that you're going to.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: If you don't want to go on these adventures by yourself,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: there's always cycling groups. You know, in my Orca, I know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: there's tons of cycling groups that you can join as
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a single person and find people that are also going
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to be single, so that you're never really alone traveling,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: because I think as a female it is more important
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to always surround yourself with some people that are going
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to be there, you know, whether they're friends or not.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's just better not to be alone as a woman
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in some some parts of the world, like the United States.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: So I would definitely do that joint strati if you're
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: not already on that. And all of these activities you're
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: talking about, whether it's skiing or whether it's biking, you
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: could always find these groups too, Like you know, there's
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: there's always like a social aspect for skiing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: There's also like in Portillo, Chili, there's you know, groups
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that come down. There's also singles women's week. You know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: there's most ski resorts have you know, either a singles
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: week or a women's only week. You know, there's a
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: ton of groups that you can travel with and meet
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: up with, so you're not by yourself, but you're with
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: people that are equally excited to do what you want
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the easy part.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: So get your ski suit, go on your trips, join
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: all these clubs, and then come back with a husband
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: or ye per excellent, excellent.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Miranda, and she's going
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: to be joining us here on the zoom. She's twenty eight.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea, I'm a female golfer and constantly on the
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: golf course men make sexist comments toward me and my
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: female friends. I usually just laugh off their quote unquote jokes,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: but it bothers me so much to the point where
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: it negatively affects my game and my desire to get
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: on the course. I've asked a couple of women in
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: my life for advice about this, but there are never
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: any concrete ideas. I feel like Chelsea would have good
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: tips on how I can put these men in their
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: place or not let it affect me as much as
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: it does. It happens almost every round that we get
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: paired with older men. I absolutely love golf, but this
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: aspect of it fills me with such anxiety that I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: wonder of continuing to play is even worth it? Miranda?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Hi, Miranda, Hello, how's it going good.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Our special guest is Lindsay Vaughan. So you have heard
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: today to give you advice as well.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you good? I normally
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: cheer for Team Canada that I can make an exception
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: to them.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think you'll have to.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, you're right, you're right.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Well, Lindsay, do you want to start this one? Because
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like you've probably had a lot of experience
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: with this kind of thing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely have. I honestly I enjoy it. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: use it to my advantage and I love also self deprecation.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: So you know, whatever guys throw at me, I usually
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: make some self deprecating comment back, or you know, I
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: hit them with I kind of flip it around on them,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: or you know, I don't know. I just find that
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: the more I use it as like a positive, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: always performed better when I was keying when people made
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: fun of me, especially men. I mean, I've been made
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: fun of for literally everything, and I'm still being made
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: fun of, which is kind of insane. Like I got
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: comments because I was wearing a tight one piece suit
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: the other day and someone that I've known for a
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: long time made a comment about how tight my suit was,
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, the guy's just jealous,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: you know, he's you know, you know, they're jealous of
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: what I have. And and again I don't take it personally,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: which is obviously easier said than done. But however, you
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: can flip it, whether it's in your mind or it's
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: a comment back to them, the better, and you know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: you again use it to your advantage.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like the idea of using
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it to fuel you.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if you're talking to me, obviously I'm
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: just gonna go off on that guy and they're never
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: going to say another thing to me.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Again, I knew that was coming.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I can't give you the language to do that, but
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just give a dish up what they're
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: dishing up right back at them. Because men can't handle
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: what they say to women. They can't fucking handle it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: They're sensitive and they're insecure.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Secure.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't be making.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Fun of somebody unless you were insecure, you know what
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, especially when you haven't done anything to deserve that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You're golfing.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I know, I feel like by me not saying anything,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: it almost compromises my comfort just to almost protect theirs,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: which which I hate. And the annoying thing is it
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: normally happens when like I normally only golf with one friend,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: and when you only book a tea time for two people,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: they always pair you with two other people, and it's
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: always two older men that are saying stuff to us
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: the entire time. So it's basically four hours of this.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they're great, and sometimes the groups are horrible, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: like they say stuff to us right when we start,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: and then it just puts me in a shitty mood
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: for the whole day. But yeah, you're right.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Also, the question is like why golf? I feel like
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: there could be a better sport.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: No, let's deconstruct this even more.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's that you're playing golf.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: That's a good point. I took it up during COVID.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You know what you get outside, you have some drinks,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: riding in a car. It's very fun. I find it relaxing.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you need to get two more
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: friends though to do it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not. Your day isn't ruined every day by
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: these two idiots. So A, get some other friends, rope
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: them into golfing. Actually, A I and find a different sport. B.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: If you're going to stick to golfing, rope some other
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: friends in so you don't have to deal with two
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: guys you don't know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have done that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And see, make sure you give it back to them.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They will cower as soon
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: as you level it up.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Men, understand that the dynamic is shift. As long as
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you're not saying anything, they're going to keep going in
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: on you. It's like a bully. And as soon as
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you turn around and say, hey, like this guy said
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to me the other day, these guys invited me, helly skiing?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I said, no, my knee's really blown, like my knee
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: was too swollen.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I go, my knee hurts. He goes, oh, your knee hurts,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: like oh yeah, And I don't want to be seen
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: skiing like you see. That's good?
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Right, So good?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: That was over.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: That conversation ended, and he never came back around. If
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I hadn't done that, he would have continued on and
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: on and on. But it's good to just kind of
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: get some stuff in your arsenal that you could throw
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: back at them. And with men, it's really not that difficult,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Like you don't have to be that prepared for what
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: they're talking about.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: No, you know, yeah, you're very right. They're always the
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: stupidest jokes too. They're not funny at all. They're all terrible.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: It's never it's like if you're gonna make a joke too,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to make it a little bit funny entertaining something though,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: it's always like a guy puts the ball not very
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: far and he says to his friend like, oh, you
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: hit that one with your purse, so stupid.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: You can come up with some good, good lines in return.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can come up with something better than that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: But it's just I feel like it always throws me
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: off guard every time, which is so strange because I
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: should be used to it by now.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Well, then you have to get more prepared. You have
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to go in there more prepared with the mission. Like today,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give it back. I'm going to serve
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: it right back up to them, And just think about
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: every woman that you are helping by you using your voice,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: because the next time they run into a woman like
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you they're going to be much less likely to harass her.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: So if you need that as an extra motivation, use it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: And to your point, they're going to say the same
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: jokes every time, so you're not gonna have to come
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: up with that many like clapbacks.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, oh it looks like you hit that with
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: your purse. You can say what it looks like you
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: hit that with one of your balls. There's lots of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: old man bald jokes that you can make, or you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: intellect jokes, or the fact that we're in the year
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Is it twenty three? Yeah, don't take next year that
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I've been thinking it was twenty.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Twenty four for like two years already. I don't know
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: what i'm smoking. Well, we all know what i'm smoking
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: at that's a given. Also, try smoking pot while you're
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: at the golf course. You won't give a shit about
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: anything then true about what they're saying. You'll be really
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: focused on your game.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Normally the drinking comes into play and it
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: makes it a little easier, but it's just more annoying
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: than anything. It's just irritating that people are still saying
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: things like this.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely don't let anyone decide like how you're
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: going to spend your time. You're not going to knock
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: golf because guys are there. You're going to make sure
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: that you're.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Going to golf. You know what I mean? That you're
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: going to be fine when guys are around.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Right, as long as I don't pick another sport before then.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean try volleyball or something that seems
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: going to be the.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Team sports are Okay, I got a couple of those
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: on lock. But you know this is good for summer.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: It's good for summer.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, good, yeah, awesome.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Well Branda, please let us know what kind of come
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: back to come up with and how it goes next time.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, do can I say one thing before
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I leave? Chelsea and Catherine. I thought of you guys
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the other day because me and my friends were on
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: our way to a ski trip and my friend decided
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: she would eat her breakfast in the car and it
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: consisted of hard boiled eggs, and right before I turned around,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I saw her about to open the container and I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: prevented it from happening. But I could not believe she
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: was gonna eat them in the car.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I could not believe that in the privacy of her
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: car of car.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: It was our car.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I was, my boyfriend was driving. I was in the front.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Let's catch Lindsay up on this so she's aware, Lindsay.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: It was revealed to me late last year, in twenty
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: twenty three, that Catherine travels regularly on planes with a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: ziploc bag of hard boiled eggs that have been peeled
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and then and eats them because they're a good source
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: of protein. I said, well, it is true.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: However, they do smell like heart boiled eggs.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Foot eggs smell no feet.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, smell like ass. But I think, you know, maybe
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: maybe eat them before you get on the plane because
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: they are a good source of protein. But like spare
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: your seat made.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: When you're closed vehicle. I made her eat them in
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the parking lot. She was standing in the parking lot
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: eating them, because I I mean, that's a.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Fair, that's a fair.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Some peanut butter or something like a peanut butter stick like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that's better. That's not offensive to anyone. Everyone loves peanut butter.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Almonds don't smell except the kids.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: That are allergic to peanut butter on planes.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's many options.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I flew home from from somewhere yesterday and they put
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: down a thing of those almonds, and I'm just like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: those are the most unappealing almonds I've ever seen.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Like I was just like what, I was, just like unsalted,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: and I just looked at them.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even want one, you know, like
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: almonds when they're hot on a plane are good. When
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: they don't do that and they just throw some mixed together,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, back the fuck up, bring
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: me some eggs anyway, So grab your obits and grab
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: your peanut butter, don't grab your eggs.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Head to the golf course and stand up for yourself.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, or I do grab my eggs and no one
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: will go near me.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good idea.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: My love to your friend.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you would. You guys have got along well.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks so much for colleague and Miranda to take care.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: So yah bye.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why anyone golfs anyway. I find
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: golfing to be so boring.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: It seems I can confirm it's very borings.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Oh right, exactly.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I've been watching is that Full Swing
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: documentary docuseries.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Do you know about this on Netflix?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually makes golf someone interesting.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say the same thing because I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is something I know nothing about.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Let me watch a couple of episodes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And it's a lot about Jordan's speeth and they have
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: a couple of players that are like on the up
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and up.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan's great. I mean, I love Jordan. He's under
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: armor guy and I've known him for a long time.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: There's some I mean, there's some good people, and I
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: think you just don't see their personalities when they're playing,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: which is why I think others are more engaging. But
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I think that this is showing actually a good side
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: of golf, So good on them. And also break Point.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: I've you seen at the Tennis one Breakpoint.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I've seen a couple episodes of that. And then the
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Formula one also, I haven't seen that yet because that's
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm less interested in Formula one than I am in golf,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to get to it because that's another
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: sport where I'm not paying attention and I don't know
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: what needs.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: To be really good.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you would love Formula One. It's like skiing.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: It's speed, it's like adrenaline.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a lot of mechanics.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: It's very mechanical, actually not really well the way they
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: talk about cars and the pit.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I like the attitude and the strategy and the winning
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: championship vibe. I love that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: What is also great about full swing is it's great
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: to see the ebb and flow of a career because
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you're never at your height all the time. There's highs
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and there's lows, and it's always like the underdog that
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: comes in, you know, and wins when you least expect it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: And the people that have been revered or celebrate to
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the most always end up not forever, but they always
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: dip and they have their troubles too, So it's never
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: like just some static road where it's just an assent,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: It's honestly really cool because it's kind of like every
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: athlete has their own little mini documentary. And to your
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: point of ebbs and flows, no career in any sport,
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, is always at the top,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: and I think it humanizes athletes and shows you how
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: hard it is to be consistently at the top. I
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: mean again, no one's at the top forever, but to
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: be able to come back every time you go down
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: is really hard. So I love these little shows. I
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: mean again, they're like mini documentaries for every athlete, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: that gives every athlete a lot more credit because honestly,
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: most people don't quite understand the difficulty.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not you know, there's a lot of similarities.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You know, in my business, there are dips, and there
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: are valleys, and there are struggles, and it is exactly
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: how you behave in those moments that make you a champion.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: You know, it's how you pick yourself back up and
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: how you succeed again after you've fallen or you've failed
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: or what you deem a failure or you have at placed.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: It's very inspiring to watch these kinds of shows because
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: it's just it's really about it's a commentary on life
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: and you know, competitiveness, and I mean there aren't a
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: lot of industries or businesses that you don't have some
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: aspect of competitiveness in there.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Absolutely not. Until totally agree.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Lana, and this is
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: a bit of a relationship beet question. I'm twenty four
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: and I've been with my boyfriend for three and a
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: half years. This summer, we'll be moving in together for
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: the first time in a new city with new jobs.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Within the next year or so, I expect to be
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: engaged to him. Our dynamic has always been the same.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I'm very affectionate, both physically and verbally. I've been told
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: it's like I don't leave the honeymoon phase, and he's
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: always kind, caring, supporting me emotionally, showing up for me,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: helping me whenever I ask, and taking me out on
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: nice dates. He just doesn't express to me verbally how
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: he feels. He'll tell me he loves me when I
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: say goodbye or when I prompt it, but usually no
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: sweet words come unprompted. I'm not one hundred percent sure
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: what's triggering this now, but recently I've been feeling insecure
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: about how we display our love to each other and
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: how it feels disproportionate to me. The perfect partner would
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: be able to show their love through all love languages,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: because they want to gift giving verbal affection, physical affection,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: acts of service are all things I provide when I
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: truly and deeply love someone without having to think about it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Is this an unrealistic view to expect the same. I've
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: talked to him about this, and he says my feelings
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: are valid, that he's always felt I have more affection
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: toward him than he has for me. This hurt to hear,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: but he assures me that he loves me and is
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: in love with me. He just doesn't feel affection for
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: anyone as deeply as I do. He told me that
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: he used to feel very deeply growing up, but that
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: changed after going through painful heartbreaks and dealing with a
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: close loss as a young adult. Is it wrong for
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: me to find this out looks sad and to want
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: more from him in terms of verbal and physical affection,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: even though he checks all the other boxes. I'm torn
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: because I know I can find many men who will
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: say sweet things to me, but they don't actually care.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Is it just an insecurity on my part, needing to
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: know how he truly feels because of the next steps
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: we'll be taking soon? Lana, Hi, Lada, Hi, Hi?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing you and you are twenty four?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You said, right, yes, I am okay?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: So the only thing that struck me in your letter,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: if you hadn't said this part, which was he used
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: to be affectionate with other people and then he got
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: his heart broken, which is the reason he's giving you
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: for not having as much.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Affection as you.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Is kind of like, oh, so he has the capability,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: but he's chosen to shut down rather than open up.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: So that doesn't make a lot of sense, because if
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: he really felt like you were the one and you
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: guys are supposed to be together, I would imagine that
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that would be brushed open. And again, you don't really
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: we don't really have control over who we fall over.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: That aside, it does sound like you're expecting from him
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: what you're giving out, and that's not a fair thing
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to do in a relationship.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You can't expect the.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Partner to give you what you want to give, or
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that your partner is going to be great at all.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Four love languages, like, that's just not realistic.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Actually, if I.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Can interject, there are five love languages, and the one
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that you left out, Lana was quality time, which is
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: the thing that he is really giving you, and that
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: may be the way he expresses his love languages. Started interrupt.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm glad you did.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I had no idea that we're five because
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I haven't read that fucking book. I've only heard about
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: it NonStop for the last ten years.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: That's the thing is, I think everybody hears like the
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Instagram snippets of it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm figuring of the four agreements, that's what they're giving. Okay,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, the thing about the love languages
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: is it's about finding out what each person's actually is
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: and expressing love to them through that, Like maybe yours
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: is more heavily these verbal, little sweet things that he
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: might say, and his maybe quality time, so it's just
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: a mismatch, and figuring out how to encourage him to
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: give you what you need and you to give him
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: what he needs.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, is it wrong to like specifically ask for that?
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: Like That's what I've been doing in the past few weeks,
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Because I wrote in this email after we had like
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: a little bit of not an argument but a discussion.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: I mean I kind of circled back to him later
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: after I kind of decompressed, and I was kind of saying, like,
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: growing up, I didn't get verbal affection or physical affection
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: for my parents, and just thinking about living my whole life.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: Not getting that is like really sad, so I I've
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: been just asking for it, like, hey, like, when you're done,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: can you come here and like give me a cuddle
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: or something cuddle me. I don't know if that's not
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: romantic or if that's like being needy.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: It's communicating what you need from your partner, and I
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: think that's great, and what if he's not able to
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: deliver it though?
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: Right And there have been times recently where he has
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: been so stressed out with being on the job market
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: and everything where he has been like, I'm not really
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: in the mood to be really affectionate right now. I'll
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: spend time with you and we'll have dinner together, but
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to be as loving as you want
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: me to be right now. And I think as long
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: as that's communicated, I'm okay with that. But it is
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: still kind of hard to be like, well, what if
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: what if there is a perfect person where he would
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: act this way towards Well.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: First of all, there's no perfect person, Like there's no
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: one that's going to do all the love languages, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: that's perfect. But at the same time, if you're communicating
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: what you need to him and he's not able to
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: give that to you. You're young. You can't spend the
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: rest of your life feeling like you need something else.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: So I think if there's that hole, and I felt
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: it before myself, if you're not if you have needs
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: that aren't being met and that's just the character of
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: the person that you're with, then it's just a mismatch,
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: you know. And again, you're really young. It's fine to
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: move on and start over. But if you live a
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: hole and it's not being filled, that's never going to
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: get filled. You're never going to change someone. If they
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: can't do what you're needing them to do, then it's
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: just not going to work.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I want to say, I am a little
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: bit like I think your boyfriend and I have been
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: in relationships with people who have been very needy of
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: affection and time and like lots of cuddling and.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Kissing, and I can give only so much.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Like it's not a reflection of how I feel about them,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: it's a reflection of like, I'm very comfortable in my
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: own space and in my own skin, and when I'm
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: needed like that, you know, if I wanted to be
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: needed like that, I would have become a mother, Like,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I don't like when I feel needed, so I can
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: kind of relate to you know, it's just a different
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: set of importance around you, like what I value. I
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: also don't like gifts, like I don't care if I
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: ever get a gift in the world. Ya, it doesn't
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: matter to me. Those things don't matter. So I'm about
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: like I like time spent. That's how I spend time
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: with my friends, my family, everyone I love. Is about
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: quality time. So I think, you know, there's two sides
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: of this argument. I think you are really young and
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: twenty four years old. I really think you probably are
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: going to want some more experiences in your life, like
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: as you I know that's probably not how you're feeling
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: right now, but it's really the truth of the matter.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: From three women who are older than you, You're gonna
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: want a little bit more experience. It's like she's not
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: getting what she needs, so she has to ask what
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: she needs. Also, you have to respect that this person
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: isn't built like you. You don't have the same brain,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you don't have the same likes, dislikes, all of that.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: So I think it's somewhere in the middle. You know,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you have to kind of figure out, like what's make
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: or break? How often do you need a hug? And
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: if you do really need that all the time, then
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: you should find someone who's going to give it to you.
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: Right, And back to the point where I said, he
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: was saying that he used to be like really loving
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: in relationships. That was also back in high school. So
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that's like a fair comparison because
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: he was saying, Oh, I was getting all this advice
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: from girls to text my girlfriend I love you every
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: day and good night gorgeous, and he obviously figured out
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: that's not what you're supposed to do. So I don't
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: know if it's really like trauma why he's closed off,
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: or it's just him growing up. But I do think
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: it would be good for him to kind of go
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: to a therapist and explore that, because I don't know
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: if he's really explored that.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: She meant that he also had a loss of someone
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: close to him as well.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that could be it. I mean, but
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you know, is he going to go to therapy? Is
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: he open to that? Like, have you discussed that?
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: I have discussed that he thinks that he is generally okay,
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: and he's like the strong one for all the other
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: people in his life, and that he would be open
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: to therapy if something bad happened or something traumatic happened.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: But I'm of the belief that anyone could use therapy
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: y at all times. So I don't know if you
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: can really convince someone of going to therapy without them
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: feeling they need.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: To No, and there's no point, like, there's no point
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: in forcing somebody to go to therapy. It has to
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: be their idea, otherwise they're not going to absorb anything
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: that they're going there for.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: I almost thought about, you know, now that we're getting
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: super serious, I am going to be moving to a
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: whole different state with him. We've been together for four
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: years and so now it's like finally becoming real, Like I,
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: if I do this move with him, next step in
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: a few years is maybe getting engaged. And I was thinking, well,
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: maybe I should say, like, if I'm going to get
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: married to you, I want you to be open to therapy.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: But I don't know if that's a fair ultimatum.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I mean, we live in twenty
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: twenty three or sometimes twenty twenty four, you know.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Have you tried golfing.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: He actually used to be on the golf team.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, well he's tried it. We just had a
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: golfer Collein. So there's some similarities here. Well not very
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: many actually, but I just thought golfing was something that
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: I should bring up again as far as.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: The therapy goes.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's you two going together. Maybe there's something there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's not just like you have to go.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to get a third person involved in
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: this because I don't want to qualify you as needy
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: because you're saying what you want, which is good, but
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you might be coming across as needy and that might
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: be rubbing him the wrong way and then you're creating
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: like a chasm.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: So it's like if he.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Could modify his behavior a little bit and you could
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: modify yours and meet in the middle, which would be
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: like what would happen in therapy ideally is somebody saying, Okay,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: this is you got to compromise. Then I feel like
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: you would have more of a like workable dynamic instead
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: of you feeling ignored or slighted.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like that might be a good option for
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: you to bring up. Yeah, especially since you're moving. That's
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a perfect excuse. We're moving to a new state. We've
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: never lived here before. There's gonna be lots of pressure,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be lots of opportunity. I want to stay grounded,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and I would love to have like a wad for
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: us to just make sure we're always ahead of our problems.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: You know, therapy is great when you're going through something,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: but it's even better when.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: You have the tools before you go through that.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: So hang your hat on that and make it couch
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: it in that, and then when you get in there
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: you can get into these issues.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: That's actually really you're so smart, Chelsea.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Right in this moment, I
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: was like, Wow, why didn't you think of that earlier?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Brilliant O. Great problem solved.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Awesome. Well, Lana, let us know how it goes. Let
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: us know how the move goes as well.
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll do. I really like your idea, Chelsea, because
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: we're also going to be living together for the first time,
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: so that's also ourwines.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you don't want to screw this up. You
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: want to succeed. Blah blah blah blah. Let's go to therapy.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: Right, for sure.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I like that idea.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: Well, thanks so much for your suggestion.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely awesome.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Well you know how it goes.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, take Carolta, good luck, she's a baby.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I know I wanted to go break up with him, like, fucking,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: it's your twenty four you need to find a new boyfriend.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I want to be like we all felt so needy
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: at twenty four, like.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Mabe, I know, I know IM married at twenty two.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Shit, I always forget you were married.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: It's so weird, you know, we don't even talk about it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I always want to say whenever anyone in
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: their twenties ask me for advice, I'm like, whatever, you
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: just don't get married, don't.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean twenty four years so needy. I
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: used to I had a boyfriend. I remember who I
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: was talking to over this weekend, actually because he was
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: texting me, and I used to beg him like I
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: would be like I wanted to sleep at his house
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: every night. He lived up the street from me in
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Santa Monica, and I would go over there every night.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: And I remember once he was like, hey, do you
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: have to sleep over every single night? And I was
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: like yeah, I'm your girlfriend obviously.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Now as I'm sitting here.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: As a forty eight year old woman, I'm like, oh,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: how annoying you know to not be able to.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Go, Oh, sure you need space, let me.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I won't sleep over a few nights a week that
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: if you know, when somebody asks you for space, you
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: have to fucking respect that and give them double like
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: let them have their space. So yeah, I think there's
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: a there's a neediness that comes in your twenties. You
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: really want this fairy tale that you think is going
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: to happen.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: There is no fairy tale.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like going to the Eiffel Tower.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I went with my boyfriend and when I was twenty
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: one to Paris, and I just had this vision of
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: like what our trip was going to be like. And
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: he was British and I was still American and I
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: was twenty one and he was thirty four. And we
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: went to London and we stayed in a hotel room
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: and the bathroom was inside the bedroom. There was no
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: separate bathroom.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: And I was like, this is not how I yeah. Yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: we didn't speak the entire trip to Paris.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: There were pictures of me alone at the Eiffel Tower
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: and him alone at the Eiffel Tower and the Louver
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: and every other thing that you saw, and the Champs
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: de Les because Princess di had just died there, and
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: the Plaza Athonite just us not speaking because I was
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: so disappointed in this fantasy that I had created in
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: my mind that had never shown proof of life.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, It's just proof of life.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no I mean, we just were not as fantastical.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: When we're older, we get it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just more real.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: We've been disappointed enough.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: A quick break and we'll be back to wrap.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: And we're back with Lindsay, Vaughn and Catherine to wrap
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  Speaker 2: up today's episode, which was good. This was a great episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you gave good advice, Lindsay gave good advice. Lindsay, you
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  Speaker 2: look fucking beautiful, by the way, ridiculous. I was just
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  Speaker 2: sitting there looking at you, going, wow, you're looking real gooding.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this, this lovely hotel is really making me
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  Speaker 5: glow over here.
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  Speaker 2: All Orlando hotels are beautiful, so pretty well, Lindsay, is
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  Speaker 2: there any advice you'd like from Chelsea?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want any skiing advice for me, lindsay, yes,
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  Speaker 1: how do you ski?
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  Speaker 5: So damn well? Chelsea? In your bikini? I've always wanted,
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  Speaker 5: how do you like not freeze your tits off?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 5: That's what I want to know, because I can't even
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  Speaker 5: handle being in my ski clothes, let alone like basically naked.
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  Speaker 5: But that's not my question. That was just something I'm
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  Speaker 5: curious about. But my actual ques es is how do
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  Speaker 5: you Cause you love skiing and obviously I love skiing,
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  Speaker 5: but you work so hard? How do you manage both things?
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  Speaker 5: Like how do you manage getting time to do what
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  Speaker 5: you love? And how do you manage being a boss?
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  Speaker 2: I just I'm like, listen, if I don't get to
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  Speaker 2: ski for a good solid two months a year, then
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worth anything the rest of the year. So
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  Speaker 2: I will work all summer long, I'll tour and I'll
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  Speaker 2: do that stuff, and then I have to have my
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  Speaker 2: time to ski because it's just so important for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's my only real passion besides what I do and
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  Speaker 2: reading books and stuff like, I love skiing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the way you talk about it is the way I
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  Speaker 2: feel about it. I always want to be on the mountain.
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  Speaker 2: I always want to get up, and I mean, my
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  Speaker 2: friends call it like they're just like, you're so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm outside my door waiting for them to come
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  Speaker 2: get me before we go to the and I've got
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  Speaker 2: my outfit on, like I've got everything ready, my gloves,
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  Speaker 2: my skis, and my phone, and I'm just sitting there
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  Speaker 2: waiting at the ski lift. Like at the you know,
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  Speaker 2: we walk to the little run and I'm just like
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  Speaker 2: an eager beaver, and they're like, you're just so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I like to go out.
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  Speaker 2: At eight thirty and get like three or four runs
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  Speaker 2: before anyone else comes out, and then I like to
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  Speaker 2: ski with my friends. But I feel like we talked
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  Speaker 2: about this earlier or the other episode, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: think for when you're in the public eye and the
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  Speaker 2: way that we both are, there's so much attention on you,
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  Speaker 2: and your life is so much about you, and you're
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  Speaker 2: so self involved that it's so necessary to actually have
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  Speaker 2: other interests that don't require it being about you. So
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  Speaker 2: for you, it would probably be something other than skiing
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  Speaker 2: to do that doesn't remind you of the main.
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  Speaker 1: Event in your life.
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  Speaker 2: And I always make sure that I take myself out
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  Speaker 2: of my comfort zone, and I'm trying different things so
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  Speaker 2: that I remain normal, like a human being that's constantly
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  Speaker 2: growing and evolving and not just spinning around in this
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  Speaker 2: little hubris that is our lives.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's a good point. I mean, I played tennis.
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  Speaker 5: I love tennis.
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  Speaker 1: What about golf?
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  Speaker 2: Have you thought about golfing? I think you should take
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  Speaker 2: up golf. That feels like the missing hole.
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  Speaker 1: So many puns in that, so many, so many puns.
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  Speaker 5: How do you also manage to change the subjects? How
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  Speaker 5: do you also manage being away from your dogs?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's just out of good parenting.
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  Speaker 2: It's better that they're not with me in Whistler because
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  Speaker 2: they like to be at home in LA where they
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  Speaker 2: can go in and out of the house. They just
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  Speaker 2: prefer that, and I took them to Whistler and they're
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  Speaker 2: just too old for that. So the next round of
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  Speaker 2: dogs I get, I will make sure they're younger and
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  Speaker 2: they're more adept, and then I will bring them to Whistler.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just trying not to torture them because last
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  Speaker 2: time I brought them they were like, what is snow?
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they're from Mexico, because everything is pointing
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  Speaker 2: to that. They only understand my bell and they like hot,
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  Speaker 2: warm weather, so I think that they're Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: they're from South.
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  Speaker 4: America and one of these mountain dogs that like just
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  Speaker 4: wants to live in the snow. Maybe it needs like I.
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  Speaker 2: Need a part time dog for the winter, and then
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  Speaker 2: I need a dog for summer. That's what I need
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  Speaker 2: to do to split my time up. Thank you Lindsey
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  Speaker 2: for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it,
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  Speaker 2: and you know I love you and I hope you
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  Speaker 2: have a great rest of your day in Orlando. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to really be falls to the wall.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, well, maybe I hit of Disneyland while I'm
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  Speaker 5: at it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing better than an adults going to Disneyland with
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  Speaker 2: no children exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Not creepy at all. Well, thank you, I love you,
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  Speaker 5: and I appreciate you having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: We'll speak soon, lindcybye bye, and don't forget everybody. My
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  Speaker 2: new special Revolution is now streaming on Netflix and it's badass.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm doing a tour a little Big Bitch store.
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• 1:03:35
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  Speaker 2: to a bunch of places in Tennessee, Memphis, Knoxville, and Chattanooga.
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