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Let's check in on women · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian. I'm here with Allison and this
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  Speaker 1: is a new episode of Maintaining Frame, which basically is
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  Speaker 1: to be retitled the crap that Richard sends through If
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  Speaker 1: even this.
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  Speaker 2: Specific, yeah, it is a rich true request. But you
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  Speaker 2: know this, this represents a body of women, possibly the
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  Speaker 2: largest philosophical movement of women on the Internet, maybe in
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  Speaker 2: the world, in the universe. This is this is, this
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  Speaker 2: is the thought sphere that has come out of women collectively.
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  Speaker 2: So I figured we might as well take its temperature
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  Speaker 2: if it has one, if it's not just absolute lukewarm drek.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, just just just to figure out what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in the check in see see what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with the feminine mind, shall we say, See what
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  Speaker 2: they have to say about the world and life and
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  Speaker 2: everything in it, the universe, life and everything in it,
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  Speaker 2: According to apparently some of the most popular and influential
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  Speaker 2: female thinkers on the Internet.
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  Speaker 1: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: so we can well maybe not bring you this content,
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  Speaker 2: but bring you bring you content. Honestly, the problem is
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  Speaker 2: that this is I'm not even being facetious. This is
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  Speaker 2: some of the biggest voices for women on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: This yeah, no, they're not doing themselves any favors.
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  Speaker 2: This is horrifying, Like this is like what what do
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  Speaker 2: you do with that knowledge? Like what what do you
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  Speaker 2: do with it? Okay, So anyway, join us for staring
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  Speaker 2: into the abyss or the fembiss or the great dark
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  Speaker 2: void and uh not not the void. Cat just the
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  Speaker 2: void and let's let's just start. Let's just get into.
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  Speaker 1: It, all right. So we got three videos, all of
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  Speaker 1: them awful. Briarny Claire, someone named Broie de Chanel, and
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  Speaker 1: the queer Kiwi. So let's start with briar Claire. This
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  Speaker 1: video is titled Bridgerton Exposes the Cruelty of not being
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  Speaker 1: Wife Material where she uses media that is already feminist
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  Speaker 1: to make an argument about reality. And this is feminist scholarship.
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  Speaker 1: Feminist philosophy is taking lies and using them to tell
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  Speaker 1: bigger lies and criticizing those lies, but because they're not
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  Speaker 1: lying hard enough. So anyway, Bridgerton is one of those
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  Speaker 1: period shows on the BBC. I think, do you know
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  Speaker 1: Bridgerton is Allison. It's about courtly Like it's like aristocrats
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  Speaker 1: being shitty to each other and love triangles and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so it doesn't sound like something that I would watch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like a girl show. It's totally
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  Speaker 1: a girl show. It's like people in costumes, like a
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  Speaker 1: period thing like Victorian or a Dwardy. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what period. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You have like high class people and they're like but
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  Speaker 1: there's like an underbelly, and you know, people are I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, being shitty to each other. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's some woman shit I wouldn't watch. And she's obviously
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  Speaker 1: really into this stuff despite being someone who wants to
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  Speaker 1: shatter gender roles wide open, and she also uses it
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  Speaker 1: to make arguments about our modern era. So let's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: makes perfectly say, well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Will probably bring historical some historical accuracy because I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do research these periods a bit, and legal legal
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  Speaker 2: understanding that Byronny completely frickin lax. So let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, So let's open. Let's play the
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  Speaker 1: opening bit.
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  Speaker 3: First picture, you have this fantastic connection with this man
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  Speaker 3: who chivalrously steps into said you.
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  Speaker 2: In such a mind Ever again, no personal issue, never
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  Speaker 2: tons of society, oh, for love of god. That is
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  Speaker 2: the most annoying romance trope. Like I do read or
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  Speaker 2: I did read romance books, and this would be the
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  Speaker 2: trope that would make me just drop it. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: it was the trope in Fifty Shades the Gray that
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  Speaker 2: when I got to like chapter three, I'm like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't really reading fifty Shades of Gray on ironically,
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  Speaker 2: I'll admit that, but I'm like, so every single man
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  Speaker 2: that I've met is a creepy stalker towards this girl,
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  Speaker 2: and plus the billionaire, and then she's just like, all
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  Speaker 2: of these men are creepy stalkers towards me, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: just so attracted to the billionaire. I just don't understand why.
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  Speaker 2: It's like please, oh good, and but that the trope
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  Speaker 2: is that all the men around this woman are totally
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  Speaker 2: infactuated with her sexually and they're so predatory. And then
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  Speaker 2: the guy who is also sort of predatory comes and
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  Speaker 2: saves her from all of the other men. Like, this
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  Speaker 2: is the one trope that I would never like as
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  Speaker 2: soon as I smelled it in any kind of romance
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  Speaker 2: fiction that I used to read like ten years ago,
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  Speaker 2: I would just be like, Nope, I'm not spending any
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  Speaker 2: more time with this book. Goodbye youink or not going
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  Speaker 2: yeat the other ye all right, And this is what
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  Speaker 2: this is. This is a romance trope Byrony. This is
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  Speaker 2: a romance trope. Okay, this doesn't exist in reality. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't exist, I mean doesn't certainly doesn't exist now because
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  Speaker 2: men don't hit on women anymore. As far as I
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  Speaker 2: can tell, they just don't. They are cultivating the ability
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  Speaker 2: not to see them at all, at least if they're white,
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  Speaker 2: like if they are any other ethnicity, or if they
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  Speaker 2: have been raised in the West, they probably are now
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  Speaker 2: occupying a space where women don't exist for them, or
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  Speaker 2: trying to. And if there are any other if they're
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  Speaker 2: an imported ethnicity, they are filling the gap, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: But of course we're not going to discuss that. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to discuss the romance trope that doesn't exist in reality.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna woman wears this one, so okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's keep going.
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  Speaker 3: You connect, bond, you get to know each other. He
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  Speaker 3: gets you a job at his wealthy mother's house, and
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  Speaker 3: she both even kiss. You both like each other.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, you're ruined permanently, what like both of them
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  Speaker 2: are permanently Their reputations are ruined, Like they didn't fuck
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  Speaker 2: around with chastity back then, and he could ruin his
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  Speaker 2: reputation just as much as she could ruin hers esus.
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  Speaker 1: But she's like a I don't want to say a slave.
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  Speaker 1: She's like a servant. She works there, and he's like
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  Speaker 1: the fantasy of the uh, you know, the working girl
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  Speaker 1: and then like the big the powerful man like no,
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  Speaker 1: like takes an interest in her kind of thing. I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I haven't watched this show,
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  Speaker 1: so so that's that's kind of like, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what the story is. It's like for the plane Jane,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, is why does he like me? You know?
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  Speaker 2: So why is she vaguely Asian?
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  Speaker 1: He is Asian?
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  Speaker 2: Because Monny, So she's not even partially.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, we have to make her sympathetic with
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  Speaker 1: to maximize that. So she's she's a working class like
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  Speaker 1: member of the staff, like a maid or something. I think,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and she's so we need to like
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  Speaker 1: pile that on that. That's my intersectional points, Alison.
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  Speaker 2: It's even less likely, maybe it would be even it
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  Speaker 2: would be more likely if she was like some kind
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  Speaker 2: of Asian royalty, that would be more plausible. But just
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  Speaker 2: an Asian like member of staff, like an Asian pett
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  Speaker 2: isn't in seventeenth century Britain, Are you freaking being ridiculous?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, maybe eighteenth century or even nineteenth century, but still.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with those outfits at seventeen well got to get
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  Speaker 2: a good look at them, I'll tell you for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But then you bump into each other and you have
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  Speaker 3: this intense makeout session on the staircase, and then he
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  Speaker 3: asks you the all important questions. No, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: no no.
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  Speaker 2: No, Army, you wouldn't even want to be his wife.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell are you talking about? Or wait, she
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  Speaker 2: was wifed up? Wasn't she what I said? She was
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  Speaker 2: wifed up? Wasn't she she this character? No has been.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's supposedly married to a human.
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  Speaker 2: Man allegedly, and not an entire her dog or herself
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  Speaker 2: or or an entire colony of rats and the humans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: something bizarre. Yeah, so presumably she's married. Say what, presumably
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  Speaker 2: she's married?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is married.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, so no she's not. Yo, that's
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  Speaker 2: what happened at that time Byrony Branny. You know that.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's actually uh, that's actually basically what happens now, right,
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  Speaker 2: because you all go for the same man, some of
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  Speaker 2: you get pregnant with him, with his with his spawn,
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  Speaker 2: and then he either pays for that or the government does.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, all of these women are going after
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  Speaker 2: this man and he's probably gonna get a few of
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  Speaker 2: them pregnant and he has to pay for them. What
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  Speaker 2: is the difference between this and today? Are we now
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  Speaker 2: concerned about marriage? Are we starting to be like having
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  Speaker 2: an issue with it now? Now people need to get married?
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  Speaker 1: No, she's not making that argument.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think then what's the problem, Like, even looking
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  Speaker 2: back in time, what's the problem. This is exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you want.
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  Speaker 1: Misogyny is always the problem because he had the It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter like whether they're he's a mistress or not.
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  Speaker 1: What matters is that he had the audacity to say,
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  Speaker 1: would you be my mistress?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well that's what she can accept. That's what she
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  Speaker 2: can get from him, because if he's an aristocrat, he
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  Speaker 2: has to think about his social standing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay it's a very white male frame.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he has to Okay, he has to think
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  Speaker 2: about his social stands.
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  Speaker 1: This is the most robust feminist talking points right here
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  Speaker 1: that we're wrestling with, Alison. It's like sword fighting the fart.
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  Speaker 2: Well, honestly, this is not any better than the ship
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  Speaker 2: that til Deer sends me. Yeah, I know the fact
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  Speaker 2: that's worse. It's actually actually Byrony being upset at this
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  Speaker 2: man saying you could be my mistress because this is
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  Speaker 2: period appropriate? Is uh? Like that's less offensive than what
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  Speaker 2: tiel Deer sent me yesterday, and I actually read part
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  Speaker 2: of it. I'm like, how did this? How did like,
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  Speaker 2: how did a frothing, frothing lunatic publish material in an
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  Speaker 2: academic setting without anyone saying why is she drooling all
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  Speaker 2: over her bib as she's delivering this thesis, Like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, back to byrony because byrony is less painful.
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  Speaker 1: All right, another thirty seconds left in this SoundBite, but
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, all right, So.
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  Speaker 2: This is period appropriate she's in so far as I
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  Speaker 2: allow for the idea of an Asian.
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  Speaker 1: House service as house servant in her name is probably
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  Speaker 1: something like Constance or Gertrude anyways, not like Ling. So
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  Speaker 1: it's probably just like a an arbitrary castle.
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  Speaker 2: It would be so much more realistic if again, she
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  Speaker 2: had just been like Asian aristocracy, right, and she'd come over,
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  Speaker 2: that would have been so much more realistic. But this
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  Speaker 2: is just ridiculous anyway. Just allowing for that, let's just
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  Speaker 2: say that she is a peasant girl. He has to
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  Speaker 2: think about his family's fortunes. So that means he's going
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  Speaker 2: to have to probably marry some stick instac aristocrat woman, right,
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  Speaker 2: and this is very common. It's very common, and that's
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  Speaker 2: all he could offer her a side piece. Now, if
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  Speaker 2: she wants to get married Byrony, she can go find
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  Speaker 2: herself somebody in China, or if we're just just pretending
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  Speaker 2: that this is normal, she can find herself a peasant
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  Speaker 2: man if she wants to get married in this context.
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  Speaker 2: But now she also has the option to be this
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  Speaker 2: rich dude's mistress. And this is somehow missogyny here, I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving you an extra option in your life. Oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is such a misogyny. No, it isn't. Yeah, one isn't.
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  Speaker 2: This is often actually how a lot of girl, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of women did social climbing in that time period,
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  Speaker 2: especially more towards like the nineteenth century. I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you ever read about Sprinkles, she was a prostitute in
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  Speaker 2: the nineteenth nineteenth century like London and her nineteenth yeah
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  Speaker 2: I think nineteenth and her sister actually became a countess
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  Speaker 2: through marriage. So this is this is actually like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe she could end up getting married to this guy,
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  Speaker 2: but not until much later on when there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot more class fluidity in like the nineteenth century. But
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  Speaker 2: mistress was pretty good. Mistress of a rich dude.
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  Speaker 1: That was well taken care of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be set for life. You'd be set for
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  Speaker 2: life because the even though there was that class distinction,
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  Speaker 2: there was also the social expectation that he take care
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  Speaker 2: of her. So I'm not like, what do you want,
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  Speaker 2: Bryan Rennie. You want reality, You want history to be
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  Speaker 2: something else. You want to make it so that class
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  Speaker 2: class distinctions didn't exist. Looking so offended at reality, it's
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  Speaker 2: like she's just getting she's just getting a face full
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  Speaker 2: of reality right there, right, and then she's just like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't hurdle it. Oh can't. Let's move on. Last
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds all right?
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  Speaker 1: Hand?
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  Speaker 3: Just now when you ask how this pray for me
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  Speaker 3: that I do not commit to matter this evening, it's
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  Speaker 3: giving long term.
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  Speaker 2: Did she did he say that to her? Who did
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  Speaker 2: she say that to? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I guess she's angry that he didn't make her like
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  Speaker 1: he didn't just like, you know, give up his position
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  Speaker 1: and allow himself to be exiled from his family so
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  Speaker 1: he can be with her. She was just angry at him, my.
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  Speaker 2: Gull, And if he did she'd no longer be attracted
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  Speaker 2: to him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, Why didn't he.
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  Speaker 2: Rebake reality for me?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And who? But who is she saying that she's angry
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  Speaker 2: to Are you kidding? A woman in that situation? Why
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  Speaker 2: would she be angry? Byrony? Oh god, damn? History exists Byrony?
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  Speaker 2: Most affected?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it does make sense for the regency period, and
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  Speaker 3: it happened in the book, and you could argue it
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  Speaker 3: still happens today.
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  Speaker 1: So she's okay. So she's using this to basically talk
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  Speaker 1: about the current day so situationships. So basically this is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because it's true. Basically, you have high status men,
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  Speaker 1: high value men. Okay, I know that they hate that term,
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  Speaker 1: but it's true. High value men use it, they do,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't like that like it's used by people
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  Speaker 1: who are not them. They want to have it, They
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  Speaker 1: want it to be their word. They use it on
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  Speaker 1: their terms. So you have high value men who, because
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  Speaker 1: of hypergamy and because of like everything in modernity itself,
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  Speaker 1: basically have their pick of multiple women. And so because
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  Speaker 1: they do, they can treat them however they want. They
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  Speaker 1: usually don't treat them poorly, but they don't necessarily commit
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  Speaker 1: either and then these women are really upset. So here
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  Speaker 1: you have this example where you know, you have situationship
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  Speaker 1: and it says here, he's about to ruin your life
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  Speaker 1: with the situationship for two years. And you have a
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  Speaker 1: woman here saying how it feels when he likes you
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  Speaker 1: but doesn't want anything serious for real, but still text
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  Speaker 1: like he actually wants to be with you. And why
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  Speaker 1: is that? Because you have you know, very few men
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  Speaker 1: who have a lot of women around them. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the situation that was created by modernity or the
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  Speaker 1: sexual revolution or dating apps or whatever you want to
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  Speaker 1: call it, you know, hypergamy. It doesn't matter, but it
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  Speaker 1: is the reality. And Brianny Claire is mad that those
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  Speaker 1: men are not like behaving in the way that they should.
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  Speaker 1: So like you have the men who can't get a woman,
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  Speaker 1: and those guys are losers, empathetic right the in cells.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have like the the the men who are
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  Speaker 1: the you know, beta bucks, Like they're the guys who
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  Speaker 1: the women settles down with after they've had their fun
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  Speaker 1: with other men. And that's sort of like a divorce
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  Speaker 1: waiting to happen at some point down the line. And
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  Speaker 1: then you have like the guys at the very top
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  Speaker 1: that basically can have whatever they want and these and
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  Speaker 1: Branny is upset that those guys exist, even though her
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  Speaker 1: belief system created this problem. Like that's why we have
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  Speaker 1: this is because of that, and it is. And what
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  Speaker 1: one thing I did that I've been thinking about a
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  Speaker 1: lot lately is that feminism is the natural product of
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  Speaker 1: the romantic model of chivalry. Like it is a product
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  Speaker 1: of that, not martial chivalry, which is what it was
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  Speaker 1: intended for, but like the romantic part that came later,
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  Speaker 1: which is why they're always leveraging that as part of
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  Speaker 1: their I guess you could say their arguments. It comes
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  Speaker 1: from this idea that men owe women. That's like that
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  Speaker 1: women deserve something from men, And that's what feminism is too.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what I wanted to say.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going, all right, it.
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  Speaker 3: Still happens today, no matter the email of outright that
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  Speaker 3: has happened on social media about this. We need to
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  Speaker 3: face effects. There are the women that you marry, and
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  Speaker 3: then there are women that.
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  Speaker 2: They play with.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Do you respect Eva optional?
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Sorry, lady, If you're all going to go after the
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: top ten percent of men, you're not going to get commitment.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's like a top five percent.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. And it's like if you want
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to get a man who has been pre selected by
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: other women, you're not going to get commitment the end. Yep,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that's it, all right, let's say all right, so that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Was the first time code. That's her sort of like
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: setting it all up. This is more about internalized misogyny too,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: because I think that this in this video that she
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: basically says that it's women that are the worst or
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the some of the biggest purveyors of this, but that's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: still because of patriarchy. So you know, women do bad things,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: patriarchy to blame, which means men to blame. But ah, okay,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So then she complains about this portrayal of men as
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: irresponsible and the problematic trope of the manchild, but not
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: because it's it makes men look bad.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: She is less of than you can tell by just
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: looking at her. It doesn't matter that she's intelligent and accomplished.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: She is not of the right rank nor of the
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: right breeding. Best she can hope for us being a
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: side piece. After all, the Cinderella story isn't real. The
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: closest you'll actually gets an aura so if he just
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: isn't respectable like he is, I'm sorry, respectable him.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why was he doing that?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They wrote him that way? Allison. This is what I'm saying,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like they create feminist media where men are dopes and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: like you know, they're they're undeserving up their station, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: then the women are rolling their eyes at them, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: then these women react to them like they're real.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: This is definitely regency. So we're talking about men who
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: are just coming off of literally being soldiers, and he's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: acting like that, like this was still when aristocracy was
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: supposed to do something, and that something was fight and
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: he's behaving like that. Okay, I mean, I guess. I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: guess you could present him as foppish. That works and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: sometimes you do it, but I don't know. That just
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: seemed very effeminate rather than foppish. I don't know. You're
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: in cottage. Do you go get yourself a man? This
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: is the dude that she's after.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Well, he's charming. I guess. Can I play more?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Or I'm just okay, go back a bit. I just
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: want to see if that I'm actually registering this correctly. Okay,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: go ahead, you're on cuttage. Do you not make you
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: carry pease someone.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: It does get quite whey watching a clip.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, So he's basically just you know what's interesting because
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know this, but the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: publishing industry won't publish actual romance. This probably is shocking
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to people. I mean it will, but it won't actually
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: cultivate romance. Basically, he's not really shown as confident. What
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the hell is going on with this?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: What is this called the sum Bridgerton.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Show?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Bridgerton?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Okay? This could be the eighteenth century? What is going on?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: What is giving information about Bridgerton? The show? Okay? A
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Bridgerton is a Netflix period and romance series created by
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Chris van Duson and produced by Shona Rhime's company. The
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: show is based on Julia Quinn's Bridgerton novels and is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: set in a stylized version of regency era London high society.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It's world centers on the wealthy Bridgerton family and their
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: interactions with other aristocratic families during the annual season, where
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: debutants seek advantageous marriages. Uh okay. A strong emphasis on
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: intimate and sexual relationships, framed very much through the female
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: gaze with an intimacy coordinator used to choreograph sex scenes.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I want the criticism. I want criticism of this show
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and it's accuracy. Okay, so I'm asking for criticism. Now
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: let's see what it comes back with. Bridgerton is widely
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: criticized as regency flavored fantasy rather than serious period drama.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I picked that up instantly with a lot of the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: criticism is how it handles race, gender, sex, and class
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: alongside history, historical accuracy, what it gets wrong. Historians and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: critics generally agree that the show is not trying to
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: be accurate. Women still think it is, especially Tyronny.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, here's what I did. I just basically closed.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I got rid of restream for this stream, and I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: just directly connected to YouTube. So unfortunately there's no rumble
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: stream that's gone, you'll just but the YouTube horizontal is
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: up and running now. I just created a new instance.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a restream problem them. I think
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: restream like shit the pot. I don't know why, but
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it happening. They have a lot to answer for. Okay,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: go ahead and finish.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Your point, all right, So race and aristocracy the world
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of Bridgington imagines a seamlessly integrated black and white aristocracy
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: with a black duke impossibly black Queen Charlotte, without engaging
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: with Britain's slavery colonial wealth, of the legal or social
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: realities facing people of color in that era, or the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: fact that this erasist Britain's history gossip sheets. There were
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: scandal papers and satirical prints, but naming people as explicitly
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: as Lady Whistledown would have risk libel actions. The column's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: power is exaggerated and its style is not historically plausible.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Sexual knowledge elite women in the show are portrayed is
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: almost comically ignorant about basic reproduction, despite the fact that
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: these women would probably be fairly close to, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: animal husbandry. Whereas historians argue Regency society could be prudish
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: but was not as uniformly naive as Bridgerton implies sexual norms,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the series often projects a more Victorian moralizing attitude onto
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: sex and respectability. Real Regency high society had strong double standards,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: was more open to extramarital affairs and libertime behavior among
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: elites than the show suggests. Okay, strong sexual double standards,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: we don't have effective birth control and women get pregnant. Right,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that's strong double standards. Reality exists, biology happens, We deal
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: with it. That's what they mean. Why strong double standards?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: What about the double standards that if a man has
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: sex with a woman, he's probably going to have to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: provide for her? Right? What about that double standard? Why
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't she have to provide for him? Because it's ridiculous.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Even sympathetic historians describe it as a modern fantasy that
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: uses just enough real detail the social season, the sea,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and chaperone's reputational stakes to feel grounded while freely breaking
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: rules on fashion, dialogue, and social relations. And I don't
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: give a crap about the racial critique. Uh, gender, sex
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and consent problems. Oh, this is gonna piss me off.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: On gender and sexuality, the show is praised for centering
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: female desire, but also heavily criticized for how it handles
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: power and consent. Marital rape scene in season one, Daphne
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: forced the Simon to ejaculate Insider despite his clear lack
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of consent. Oh wow, oh wow, they're actually criticizing it
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: for being somewhat rapiet. That's uh against men against men. Wow.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well Brianny Claired never brings that up. So that's something. Wow,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that's actually true, that's actual.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Kudos for the show. Kudos for the show. But but
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: here's what feminists bring up, not not the depiction of
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a male sexual assault and the fact that the show
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: treats it ambiguously and does not fully reckon with it
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: as abuse, and its obsession with marriage and babies. Feminist
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: commentators argue that despite some strong hero and branding, the
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: narrative repeatedly asserts that women's happy endings are marriage plus children,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: which is accurate to the time period. But let's limiting
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: how far the show's women can actually break norths.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: What are they gonna boss babe about in the seventeenth century,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna quarter the market
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: on pig farming, Like what the what are you gonna
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: boss babe about in.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: The seventeenth century surveying like nautical adventures? Like what do
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: you think what do you think that women's options were
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: in the seventeenth century? And I'm not even talking about
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: men not letting them do it? What do you think
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: women's options were in terms of being able to go potty?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Because there was nowhere to go and go to the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: bathroom prior to widespread plumbing, right, Like, this is ridiculous.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Women don't have the strength to sail. They don't have
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the facility with violence to do things like be merchants,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: because at that time it was still somewhat dangerous. You know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: they don't have the like there's not many options. Most
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: people were just laborers. Most men were just laborers.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: What the hell were the women going to be?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Well, they were already what they wanted to be, which
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: is aristocratic women, Like, what what do you think is better?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: This is what's infuriating. What do you think is there
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: for women in the seventeenth century aside being a fucking duchess?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: What do you think is there? What do you think
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: is better than that? Do you think it's open? They
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: could have been CEOs? No, bitch, you're already there. You're
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: already on the top. Oh okay, sorry, that's all right.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I'm done with this.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Like how many more time.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Codes there's there's there?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I think we Well, that's the thing, like we just
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: barely started, Like there's the thirty seconds. I only got
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: five time codes per video. Maybe that was too many.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So let's do the rest of this clip.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Thirty seven year old man at struggling with any basic
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: tiny sense of responsibility. I'm just a little bit over
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: the charming, sweep bit, useless lob of a manchild trope.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: He just needs the.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Right woman to look after him.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: If you enjoy it, that's great.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: I'm not here.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I'm also tired of that, but not for the same
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: reasons you are, Yo.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: But then you'd have to accept that men are competent,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: and your entire belief system denies that fact. Like the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: only time a man can be acceptable as if he's
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: completely incompetent, because that means he's non threatening. All right,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: let's keep going. Yeah, I'll shut.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Up that at me.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: I really really like it when you're serving food, get out,
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: get out of my house.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Seeing a mother having to go into her adult son's
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: house to wake him up because he's incapable of doing so.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: This is not something that would have happened.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is written for women, Allison.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: This she first of all, he would have a housekeeper,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and you don't violate privacy like this in like between
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the sexes to this degree, Like what the fuck? What
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: this is not boy? This is psychotic. Okay, men just
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: don't do anything in your world. Huh.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, attractive, no matter how charming he is. I enjoy
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Bridgeton as my little escape is fantasy from the many
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: horrors of the world. Definitely issues with it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: And it's what do you actually all women are losing
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: their rights and you know the usual stuff. How about
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the words of having to watch your eyes be larger
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: than your face somehow? Why is bug looking like a bug?
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: In?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, look at this she puts this up. Romanticy is
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: conservative propaganda.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: This is what I was talking about. And I know
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: everybody probably listening is like, what the publishing industry doesn't
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: publish romanticy, No, it doesn't. What happens is romanticy starts
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: indie because the publishing industry does not accept the themes
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: in romanticy in or romance. It doesn't accept them because
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: romance readers want a competent man who sweeps them off
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: their feet. That's what they want, and the publishing industry
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: will not support writing that. What it will do is
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: when an indie romance author breaks big, they will snap
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: them up and take the money. But they won't actually
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: they won't in their house. They will not okay stuff
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: like that being written. The idea of a competent man
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: sweeping a woman off her feet through his physical prowess
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and her having sexual desire for a man this is
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: These are themes that the publishing industry will not touch.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: The only thing that the publishing industry will accept are
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: vindication narratives centered on women in which women find out
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: they were always perfectly wonderful just the way they are.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: The only flaw that they had is they didn't realize it,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and they don't need no man and romanticy A romance
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't sell that. It does sell the idea of para bonding.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It does sell the idea of male competence. It does
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: sell the idea of very strong, powerful men who get
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: shit done right. I know that this sounds really weird,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: but that's the case the roman and the publishing industry
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: hates it just like these people hate it. And yet
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: romance remains the biggest selling genre in the West that
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the publishing industry won't cultivate. They'll scalp it when somebody
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: gets so big that they can't deny the potential moolah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but they won't cultivate it. Because of this attitude that
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Byrony is showing right here. As a woman, you cannot
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: desire a man. You sure as hell can't desire a
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: man who has his own shit going on, who is competent,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: who has his own moral framework, who's doing his own thing,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and you can't want to have that in your life.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: That is conservative propaganda. So I mean, I know that,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: like again, this probably comes as a surprise. Romance isn't
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: acceptable anymore to the publishing industry. Romance isn't acceptable because
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: they can't handle the thought of a man of a
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: woman wanting a man, or wanting to be wanted by
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a man. That's some hetero sexist cist cists sis. I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: don't cis toxicity. Okay, let's keep going.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, so actually research I think the next time code
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: this is two fifty eight. So I was going to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: jump up to, oh yeah, let's let's choose some because
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: we haven't. It's already been like forty minutes. So there's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: three more time codes. One is where she discusses the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: historical and ongoing class of racial issues, including the treatment
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: of illegitimate children and mistresses in regency times. Then there's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: one where she explains the Madonna horror complex and how
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: men categorize women into only two groups, affecting respect and desire.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I remember Natty saying that over and over. I think
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: that's bullshit. And then there's a critique of modern purity
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: culture and high value women messaging as a repackaged form
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of patriarchy and misogyny. Any of those interests, one of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: those three? Should I just you.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Know what, dealer's choice, dealer's choice. Just take me wherever
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: All right, let's let's go to the Madonna horror complex.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Then a little bit before this.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: There is zero attraction to them, so it's like a
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Before this too. Actually it's okay, So they're they're they're saying,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of course she uses Madmen because it's our favorite show
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to use Jackie Maryland.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Plus, in my opinion, a secret third option, which is
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: invisible because there is zero attraction to them. So it's like,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: what worth can I get from you?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Which do you think? I am?
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Grocery to die, suggesting that men cast women into one
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: of two categories to allay the uncomfortable dichotomy of fear
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and desire, the Madonna the woman he admires and respects
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: and the woman he is attracted to with death or disrespect.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: This is academic comminism right here.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well but but Allison, it's from a university. That
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: means true. These people are just they're just telling you
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the truth. He goes to the university, she goes to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: She goes to movies and TV shows and pop culture,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and she pulls all of her facts from that. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: they're just facts. What are you gonna do? Well, are
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you a professor? Have you been to the dombassy?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: H Okay? This is absolute bullshit. All right, this is
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: there is This has not been proven. Okay, so we're
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: now talking about I thought Sigmund Freud was discredited, but no, no, no, no,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: as long as you can shit on men, Sigmund Freud
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: suddenly has all the credibility in the world.
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: Mm hmmm.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And also isn't this sort of condemning of like, this
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: is very condemning of men, This idea that they can
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: they separate between people that women that they represent and
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: women they can be attracted to, or sorry, they can
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: women they can respect and women they could be attracted to.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Oh all right, so what is he record? Is her
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: conclusion about the Madonna horror complex from the sign Let's
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Keep Going, who was discredited, Except in this scenario, the.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Madonna complex views women's desirability slash licentiousness and purity slash
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: maternal goodness as mutually exclusive traits. Side note, licentiousness is
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: such a fun word to say. It's like elevated scandal.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: But I think it's biblical in origin right. Anyway. We
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: see this very clearly play out with Benedict when he
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: goes on another sad boy debauchrous night and his mates
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: tell him all about mistresses.
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: She has agreed to be my mistress.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Because one woman was not enough for you. You realize
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Anthony once kept the mistress.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: It is common book. Half the men in here keep mistresses.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: The woman that you marry must meet certain criteria and
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: be respectable to society. But obviously that's not enough for
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: these men to view her as a full human being.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Oh no, he must have a mistress who is also
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: not viewed as a full human being.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Because you know why this happened, Barony, and I would
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: suggest you actually read a different book. It was Kings
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and Their miss Kings.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: It was a book on the actual sexual like life
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: of kings and aristocratic men. And why are we looking
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: at Don Draper Like Don Draper represents nothing. Don Draper
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: represents feminist snuff porn of masculinity. Yes, anyway, But the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: thing is that the reason why this happened was, first
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: of all, in many cases the king, for examples, sex
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: life was considered a reflection of the viality of the realm.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: But the other thing is that these kind of marriages
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: that were created purely because of the necessity of power,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: dynamics and lineage, they often weren't very fun byrony. They
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: were like a job. So they let these dudes have
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: mistresses because it was like a job to be married
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: to the woman that was assigned to them by their family.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't pleasant. He was doing his duty.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And here's the other thing was what's really interesting is often,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: for example, for the Kings, the mistress would be married too.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: People don't know that that she would have a husband.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: And the reason why they did that was because it
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: was considered less of aio ethical violation if she had
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: somebody to take care of whatever, whatever children came out
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of the union, so it was less It was considered
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: less of a violation of integrity for a king to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: have a mistress who was married than for a king
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to have a mistress who wasn't married. So often they
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: were married and their husbands were in a because they
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: got lots of perks, lots of perks from it. So
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: none of this is in this right, None of this
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: is looking at this as a means by which people
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: dealt with dynastic pressures that forced them to have to
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: perform with people they didn't want to be with. Right,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: none of that, None of that in this analysis. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: for some reason we're talking about Don Draper, which has
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with the topic whatsoever. Are these
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: all the women who had sex with them?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I don't think so. I think
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: it's actually I think it's just the women on the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: show that he interacts with. Yeah, it says here, wife, mistress,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: one night stand girlfriend. Okay, so yeah, I guess he has.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He has slept with all. I guess he must be
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: really attractive. Byrony is like top five percent man, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: you're and you're upset. The top five percent that man
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: basically has basically gets to basically gets to color code
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: his love life. Well, stop all going for the same man.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is well within your ability to do
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to deal with. Oh, this is like learned help listeners.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: It's sickening.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, all right, so I let me just
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: check here. I think that might be it for this
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: time code five point thirty. Oh no, there's thirty seconds left.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But this, uh, it's not quite right. Okay.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I think back to how Colin couldn't be with Marina,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: granted the Featherington family was trying to trick him into
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: being with her. Benedette couldn't be with Madame Delaquire, but
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: she's good enough to.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Have fun with.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And Anthony couldn't be with the opera saing her from
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: season one. Notice how none of these women are white.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Painter's earning exception. Anthony marries her, but he's the one
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: that carries the title. Meanwhile, Benedict has to choose someone
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: of nobility, as has revealed at her father's funeral.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: By her Yes, that's the class, is she Barney?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's saying no, no, she's But this is the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: thing that's interesting because this goes back to what I'm
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: saying was she's criticizing an intersectional feminist show. And she's used.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: She's like absorbing the propaganda from the show and then
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: saying this is real and then using that to criticize
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: men in reality. So when she sees all notice they're
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: all not white. Yeah, but like this is a show.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: It's made up. Like they just cast a bunch of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: brown and yellow people to play these minor characters so
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that you're extra sympathetic to them. And then but like
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: in reality, they were probably all white. It was probably
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: like ninety nine percent white in real history. But that
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't work for you. It's so it's so frustrating because
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: like it's obvious that this is baits that you're supposed
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: to take and say, oh man, they weren't just sexists,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they were racists too. It's like, no, stupid, everyone was
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: white back then. They just cast these people and they
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: cast minorities and use them to like make the make
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the offense more offensive, that's all. And you just eat
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: it up like you just like a fucking hungry, hungry hippo.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It's a lie, that's all. It's a lie.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: But it's about constructing a narrative. Yes, that what that's
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: what all this is. It's constructing the freaking narrative.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, I need to that's all it is. It's based
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: on it's based on lies.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: All right, this is this is like but this is
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: this is it? This is we are looking at the feminine.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many layers of narrative diffusion are we
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: at this point? Like? How many layers away from actual
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: reality are we at with this woman and all of
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: her audience, Like they're so ensconced in this fiction, fictional
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: world where somehow Don Draper has something to do with
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: regency romances because of the Madonna horror complex, but also
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: that you can't even see that you're being worked on
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: with this net. Reality is going to come for these women,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: and it is going to come very hard. And this
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: is this not like.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep going all right, Uh, that's basically the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: end of that clip. So let's go into the high
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: value woman critique at sixteen thirty and that'll be it
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: for this basically, either without.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: The rigid class strutch as being in place anymore, we
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: are policing each other, and then we are teaching our
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: daughters and teaching future generations this, and then they are
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: going on to absorb this and then police everybody else.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: One of the reasons that I chose this outfit and
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: look today because I know that people will be saying, oh, well,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: if you dressed more properly, then people would pay attention
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: to you, people would have more respect for you, people
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: would listen to you. Most of what makes you a high.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Value what came out of your mouth wasn't drivel like what.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: So she's basically saying that we are teaching the Madonna
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: horror complex. This is actually precisely out of what Tildeer
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: sent me, which is this like nineteen seventies feminist psychology
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: that basically said that during the first years of live life,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: men are taught to oppress women and women are taught
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to receive oppression. And the other thing is that this
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: like the mad Men. We watch actual films from like
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the twenties, thirties, forties, and fifties, very different than what
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: is being portrayed here. Okay, in the sixties too, I
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: mean sixties was more of sex kidney, but it was
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: still not quite this that was considered to be liberation.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Actually at the time, Yeah, okay.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going, or no, this is there's still thirty
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: seconds left in this being a.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Marrying kind of girl to have a really hot body
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: and to fuel yourself with clean foods. There's there's lots
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: of this, like Maha movement woven in here. Again, we're
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: coming back to the woman in a sphere.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Nonsense, this is help?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: What so healthy is? Somehow it's fascist, That's what it is.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: That's what she's saying. Oh eating eating good food. Oh
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that sounds like maha. That sounds like RFK. You know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the Kennedys are pretty terrible people. Suddenly it's so fucking
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just like people who if you believe this shit,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you're retarded. You need to be in an asylum.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but how can the world be more feminine at
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: this point without just getting rid of men entirely? Of course,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: that's that is the thing, except you she's already done
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the great blasphemy. She married a man. I wonder if
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: this is all performance for money.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So that she can keep on doing this.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is fucking depressing. Like I look at this
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know what the hell I am.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: But it's not a woman. I can can I just like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: can I be like just something in between now? Because
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the same category as
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: this all right, let's keep going all right.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: A lot of people like it brought up previously. This
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: is the exact same as a Protestant woman from the
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: past who worse seemed to be better than black women
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: because they had the self discipline to be smaller. It's
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: a signifier of difference from that.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: What the hell is this shit?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Mhm?
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: What the okay, let's keep going home on.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: Let's see and when people look at you and they
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: see a fit body, they see someone who takes care
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: of themselves, they see someone who respects themselves, and they
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: see someone who has disciplined Like a.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Lot of purity culture gets woven in as empowerment, as
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: self respect being the code words.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Why is it that all of this shit just bounces
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: off of me? I don't care, Like I find it
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: far more important the systemic corruption that I'm seeing because
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: men have been divorced from their own like masculine ethical friends,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I see it now everywhere, and that and that you
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: can play on the feed of feminism. They've taught generations
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: of boys that their own male instincts around ethics, around competition,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: around risk are to be judged and excised, which doesn't
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: create like girls creates men who have no connection to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: a male ethical frame. That's what it does, right, And
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I see this corruption everywhere. And she's worried about people
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: saying lose weight. How about you just say no, I'm
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be a fat fuck. You have to live with it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Like just everything is about the least amount of pressure
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: on the self. Everything. There's absolutely no resilience, Like the
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: very concept of resilience is misogyny in her framework. The
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: area concept that you could just walk away from something
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: or turn it off or close it, that's misogyny. The
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: world has to be completely controlled by the tides of
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: byrony subconscious, which she doesn't even understand because she's never
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: seen a movie of it, so how could she understand it?
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: All right, yep, okay, so I read pull stuff like this,
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: you can't be a promiscuous woman, And I don't care
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: what anybody says.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think that high value means exclusivity, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: exclusivity means are.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: To have classic nails, shoes, clothing. It's quiet, luxury, it's tailored, it's.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: All so yeah. Anyway, she she's basically saying that there
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: should standards should not exist, and women are are as
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: bad or can be as bad as men, but ultimately
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: it's men's fault that standards exist. So that's basically the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: crux of her video. That's kind of where it always lands,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: by the way, is that like women shouldn't have to work,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: be expected to do anything standards, they shouldn't have standards
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: impose on them, and also men should pay for everything
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: through the state, because I love the state. So that's
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: basically where it always lands with these people. There's like
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I've watched all three videos and it's the same all
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: three of them. Women should not have ever ever have
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: standards put on them ever, and women shouldn't have to work,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: and they shouldn't have to build anything, and they shouldn't
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: have any duties or responsibilities period. And men should pay
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: for everything and the state should make them do it.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: And that's basically how that's what it always boils down to.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: It's just like child that was given the vote that
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: just wants free shit forever, that and and then and not.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: And they owe you nothing, they don't even know owe
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you children. They don't even care where that goes. Like
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the next generation could just starve and die as everything
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: collapses because they got theirs. That's basically what it always
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: is is why they have to lose their rights, Like
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: we have to like punish them in some way so
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: they can't keep killing everybody with their ridiculous desires.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Well, the selfishness of it, like what, what's the point
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: of existence?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: It's worse than selfish. It's soli cistic. It's like nothing
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: else exists except me. They're psychos, Like there was a
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: there was a well, maybe I'll bring it up at
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the end. I'll bring it up at the end. It's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: like what we're being ruled by is like psych psychopathic
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: evil women. Even if it's men over there pulling the levers,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: they're doing. They're doing what they're told based on this.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Well, they've been taught that, they've been taught to remove
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: a masculine moral framework and a masculine moral ethic and
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: replace it with a feminine ethic. That's what's happened. That's
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: why we're seeing what we're seeing. And I'll go deeper
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: into this because I'm working on a piece that does
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna call it why Silver is a
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: men's issue, and I'm gonna get like twelve people watching it.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: But that's good. At least I get I've informed twelve people.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: All right, let's suh one video.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna look at Broe. Yeah, so this is similar.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Broie Diischanel. Let me close this and put it behind me.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Forever had a video called TikTok feminism is not Your Friend,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: and it takes an hour. It's an hour long video
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: because of course it is. And she is giving her
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: take on the is having a boyfriend embarrassing article that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Vogue put out. Do you guys remember when we covered
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: that one is having a boyfriend embarrassing.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: It's the same strain of thought as the publishing industry
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: is refusing to cultivate romance because they don't They think
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: it's completely illegitimate for a woman to desire a man.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: And I know that there is a strain of thought
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: in the that romance itself is the problem. But romance
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: narratives actually have a woman desiring a man, and that
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: is not what the feminists want to see. What they
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: want to see is a vindication that women are perfectly
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: fine as they are, they don't need any man. They've
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: never made a moral wrongfoot, because it's really mean to blame.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: That's what they want. They want pure vindication narratives or
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: pure vindication of their moral framework, their intersectional moral framework.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: That's what they publish over and over and over again.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: And they will not touch a romance unless it's between
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: two women or between two men and both die horribly. Okay,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: let's keep going, all.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, let's start with the first clip.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: Looks, thank you so much. Let's move on. A few
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: months ago, British Fogue published an article cold is Having
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: a Boyfriend Embarrassing. The article was quite the sensation in
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: online feminist circles, where women and far praised it for
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: speaking truth to a growing frustration with the men they
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: were dating. Men who were lazy, adulterous, infantile, and in
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: some instances abusive, men who apparently up till now, gave
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: the women they were dating a certain cache. That is,
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: until Vogue came out and called the affliction of dating
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: men what it really was, embarrassing.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: All right, So Vogue pandered to women, told them that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: they're awesome and therefore their men suck, and the women
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: ate it up, and they talked about it on TikTok
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and they didn't even question it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Yet. Romance remains the largest flipping genre, Like, what the
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: hell are you doing? What is this? What is this
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: massive malfunction we are looking at? And the other thing
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: is that maybe the problem is the men you're choosing,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Like maybe maybe you shouldn't all choose the same five
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: percent of men, possibly, you know, like, all right, let's
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: let's let's see her. Let's let's listen to her thesis,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: because she's actually saying the same thing. Or is she
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: she contradicting it?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: No, she's I think the problem is it's embarrassed that
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the fact that they're calling it embarrassing hurts women because
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: it's saying that they've made an embarrassing choice in their man. Okay,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: like that, but let's let's keep going.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: Aside from those who dismissed the article as rage bait
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: and those who were in fact rage baited, there were
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: some who provided some more thoughtful criticism as well, like
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: Emily Crane on inst No.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I'm insulting your biogroup, I'm dehumanizing your biogroup, you responded
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: to the rage bait. Ha ha ha mm hmm. Yeah.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: The unfortunate fact is that you're teaching this to like
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: five year old boys. You're teaching this whole concept that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: they are inferior girls, that they are failed girls. You
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: know that's the problem.
• 58:07
  Speaker 10: Yep, Okay, just keep going criticize the article for framing
• 58:13
  Speaker 10: heterosexual partnership as part of one's overall brand rather than
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: as a real human relationship, but their comment sections quickly
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: derided them.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: Stating that they simply didn't understand the article, with some
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: even accusing them of having not read it at all.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: What crane and hasif failed to understand, according to this
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: comments are on substack at least, was this The piece
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: is speaking to a particular kind of fatigue that a
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: lot of women are feeling, not with romance itself, but
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: with men and what they've come to represent in our
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: cultural moment. It's less about independence versus dependence and more
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: of at what.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: They've come to represent, what men have come in.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Our cultural moment.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't desire men at all. Like this is
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: right at the epicenter of what I'm saying that the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: publishing industry won't publish romance, it won't cultivate romance the
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: very It can't stand the idea that women desire men,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: full stop. It hates it. Whatever is behind all of
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: this shit hates human sexuality, It hates human reproduction, unlike
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: almost to the point where I think that our overlords
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: are actually over lizards and they're trying to stop us
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: from reproducing so that we die out and they can
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: inherit the earth and make it into whatever reptilian paradise
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: they want. I'm not saying that seriously, but it's just
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: so consistent how much they hate human reproduction and they
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: hate the idea that men are desirable at all. That's
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: all that's happening here. What men and what they've come
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: to represent in our cultural moment, something that you might
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: want in your life. They can't stand that because I
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: can't imagine what else men have been come to represent,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: aside from villainy, oppression, violence, sexual violence, physical violence, I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: don't know, free market capitalism, whatever else they're gonna call
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: is men or claim is masculine, like, I mean, they
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: don't even define that. But with men and what they've
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: come to represent in our cultural moment, what have men
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: come to represent? You mean, something that might be desirable?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Nobody is framing them that way. I think what you're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: staring at is human generative instinct at this point, Like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: women actually want to have sex with men because that's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: what evolution made us to do. At the end of
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: the day. Yes, we're very complicated, but ultimately everything sort
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: of serves us the same kind of end. So what
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: you're looking at this isn't. This isn't what men have
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: come to represent. This is you can't strip it down anymore.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: This force that takes human reproduction cannot strip down women's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: desire for men any more than it already has, right,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: and it's trying to do it again. So it's framing
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: it like it's some kind of imposition men. Women's desire
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: for men is an imposition on them that needs to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: be extracted, you know, like a rotten tooth thrown out. Okay,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: let's keep going, all right for dynamic.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: When we talk about embarrassment here, it's not embarrassment over
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: being loved or cared for. It's discomfort with being seen
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: as aligned with men. And a time when patriarchy, red
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: pill culture, and gender based violence are so visible and normalized.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: When has it not been like, is there a point
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: in time was there a Shangri law where the feminists
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: would say, wasn't patriarchal and violent gender based violence they are.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: There's no particular now. Now, it's always the same thing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Men are always wrong. Desiring men is always a disease
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: that seizes women, and it needs to be beaten out
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: of them. You can't just leave these women alone, can you?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Whoever is fucking doing this, You can't just let women
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: have their fucking romance novels and their boyfriends and their
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: husbands and their children and their freaking egg aprons. You
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: have to get in there and try to pry it
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: out of them.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I think you covered it. I will
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: say that I'm happy that she is. They're saying red
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: pill culture. They can't avoid it now, like they wouldn't
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: have given that like any air at all, it would
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: have given any oxygen. But the more they have fought
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: to repress it, the more the more it's grown. And
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: now they can't ignore it. So I'm just saying, I'm
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: glad that there's this person is using that term red
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: pill culture. So you know that Netflix is coming out
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: with a documentary about the manosphere pretty soon, so I'm
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: sure that's going to be fair and you know, objective
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and not at all propaganda.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: So what's the next paragraph that sounds interesting.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: The one that she's not going to read.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, The substack response seems to miss that nuance. It
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: turns a gendered cultural observation into a self help argument
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: about connection and vulnerability, as if the issue that people
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: have have forgotten how to love. But that's not really
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the point the Vogue piece is making. Women aren't retreating
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: from men because they've forgotten that love is messy and beautiful.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: They're retreating because it often feels unsafe or socially caught
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: to be publicly associated with men. That's not about emotional immaturity,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: it's about self preservation. Who's making it, Who's making it
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: socially costly and unsafe to be publicly associated with men?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Who's doing that? Who is that? Who has framed the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: relationship between the sexes is one of oppression and did
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: so because they realized the tremendous benefit to their ideology
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: in terms of clout and money in doing so, and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: have even stated it in their own documents. Who did that?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Who did it? Who's pastoring these women when they're proud
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: to have a husband, all right, Who's pestering them about
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: having a boyfriend? Who's pastoring them about getting gifted and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: egg apron, who's making these women's lives miserable for having
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: aligned with men? We have done in the human race
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: since we evolved. You know, that's that's human history, right,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: women aligning with men, men aligning with women, getting shits done,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: producing a future. That's sort of what we do. And
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: we have this entire chattering class that you know that happens,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: and personally, I was offended by it. That's them, that's them,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: men being aligned with women, women being aligned with men.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I am personally offended at that.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: I took that personally and I had to destroy it
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: because of course, we don't need a future because we're
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: we're just warming the earth for the reptilian aliens. That's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: what we're doing.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So there's another thirty seconds left in this.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: This was a sentiment espoused quite a bit in the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: discourse around the article, and so with their criticism, Crane
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: and Ali had apparently forsaken this rallying cry, and thus
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: they were cast off by their comment sections as anti feminists.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: In the aforementioned comment, this.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Person, you guys seed each other. I don't care.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys always eat each other, So who cares?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Like No one's pure enough, no one does enough. That's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: why that happens. But you're gonna say, oh, they just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: didn't get it, you know, they just didn't understand what
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the criticism was. I'm gonna make an hour long video
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: explaining everything. Good luck, I hear logic is really effective, not.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: In this boyfriend embarrassing discourse, which is for B a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: fringe move into South Korea, where women have opted altogether
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: out of sex, dating, marriage, and reproduction with men. Four
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: B was born from a particularly patriarchal national and cultural context.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: South Korea has high incidences of domestic violence, femicide, and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: revenge point, and its president infamously blamed feminism for the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: country's low birth.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Rate based I think. I think, I don't know if
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: he's still president though, I don't know what's going on
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: in North Korea or in South Korea, sorry South Korea,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: North Korea, Kim Jong Un, I think his name is
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: just announced that his daughter is going to be taking
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: over as supreme leader. So South Korea is potentially worse. Well, yeah,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's worse anyway.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: Over to the US, where Roe v. Wade was overturned
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: just a few years ago and you'll find a public
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: health emergency that has disproportionately impacted America's most vulnerable populations.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: In one heartbreaking case, a young mother named just I'm not.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Gonna skip that, she basically just brings up two little
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: anecdotes to say, this is what happens when you take
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: away women's healthcare rights. But she's basically setting the stage
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: to say that the four B movement is what women
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: are adopting because in America things are like heading in
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: the exact same direction, and everything is so awful in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: South Korea, as you guys know, it's like the worst
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: place to be a woman outside of America. In Canada
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: and the UK and France and Italy and Germany and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: basically any other Western country, Australia and New Zealand, they're
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: all the worse for women, especially today, like ever, like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: the most dangerous time to be a woman ever is now,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: and tomorrow it will be even worse, worse than that. Yeah,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: it's like that clip from office Spaces, like you know,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: every day of them of my life is worse than
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: the day before. And he's like the psychiatrist is like,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: so today is the worst day and he's like yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: and He's like, damn, that's anyway.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think I remember looking at these in
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: medical malpractice happens, and it happens in all kinds of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: contacts that have nothing to do with just medical accidents
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: happen exactly, Like basically what they found is not a
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: perfect science. So either medical malpractice or medical accident. That's
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: that one or the other, right, one or the other,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: And yes, you are going to find these these cases.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: You know, the great tragedy of humanity is that the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: women who understand systems don't have the social influence and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: power of the women who don't. If you understand what
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, women who can understand how things work
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: never have the ability to spin a narrative, be a damsel,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: or create emotional resonance to get the ship that they
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: think should be done done. It's always the women who
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: fail the line level test, the glass line level test.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: It's always the women who fail who have that power.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Why did God do this to us? Or the spaghetti
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: monster evolution? Like why why does the women with social
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: clout are incapable of understanding how a system works? Why
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: is that nobody knows? I guess it's our challenge on
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: this earth. Yeah, okay, you're looking down, are you finding?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, just I'm checking the next time code. Let
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: me let me go. There's more of this one.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: Billy Barnica died after doctor's delayed emergency miscarriage.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Carro o, No, no, no, I'm gonna skip ahead. I don't
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: care about these anecdotes. We already know they're gonna use
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: them because that's that's it's handy for them.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling really anxious about how little we've gone into
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: All right, well, what are the options?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: What are the options? Just give me the options, all right.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: So they're the one I'm currently going through is the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: analysis of the FORB movement in South Korea as a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: form of resistance to patriarchy and capitalism. Yeah, because they
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: those are both male coded things. Contrasting this with the
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Vogues article Vogue articles more superficial take. Then there's the
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: critique of TikTok feminism as a form of branded feminism,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: which we she calls neoliberal feminism, like a new feminism.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Just drop, guys. It's called neoliberal capitalist feminism, which I
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: guess is a bad feminism that encourages self policing and individualism,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: often reinforcing patriarchal capitalism rather than resisting it. Then there's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: the discussion of feminism's evolution from second wave to third wave,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the riot girl movement, and how pop culture transformed feminist
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: messages into marketable, depoliticized form. So basically, like, you know,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: feminism becomes popular, goes into popular culture, and then it's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: bad because it's sold out. So like the difference between
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: the you know, these sort of like punk bands that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: were intentionally not supposed to be successful, and so they
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: fail and they get like Britney Spears and the Spice Girls,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, that's like marketable feminism, and that's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: bad too, because it has to be the underdog in
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: perpetuity and it can't be too uh, I don't know,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: you see what you see? How like mind bendingly painful
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: this is for me to watch, Like I can't, I can't.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is just so draining because these people,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I don't have a woman's brain.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I just don't. I just I just have the time codes, okay. So,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: and then the last one is the impact of social
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: media and visual culture on feminism. So there's like visual culture. Now, guys,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: it's like having eyes is cultural, I guess.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: So, see great irony about all of this is it
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: only functions with men to manipulate. That's all these women
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: are doing. They're never they have absolutely no way of
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: exiting male world. All they have is words that in
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: sequence make men do stuff and make them feel certain ways.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: That's what's so infuriating about this. Every time I ask
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: a feminist, so what's your strategy? You say that patriarchy
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: is horrifyingly bad?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: You can't as a woman. You're constantly being corroded into nothing.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: It's an acid bath, an endless acid bath of toxic masculinity.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: You suffer endlessly, and yet you are not allowed to speak,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: so you have no mouth and you must scream. And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I say to them, so, what's your solution to the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: end of this existential torture that you're telling me you're in.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: How are we going to bridge our way out of
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the patriarchal nightmare? And everything they say makes me have
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: to conclude that they've never even thought about that, because
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: all they ever talk about is how while they can't
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: do that, they're so basically all these women offer anybody
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: anywhere is a way to negotiate patriarchy. That's it. So
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: the only question is is this a good way of
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: negotiating patriarchy? Is this what she's presenting a good way
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: of negotiating patriarchy since she says patriarchy is forever and
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: endless and can never be escaped and also is always horrible.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: So is this a good way of negotiating patriarchy? Because
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: I'll leave that question to the viewer.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: Let's keep going, all right, retained products of conception two
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: days after finally delivering, Barnica is one of two pregnant
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: Texas women who has died after doctor's delay.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: I'm making an executive decision. No more about abortion rights.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I next next time?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: She's trying to victimize women. She needs that to do that. Okay,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: we'll jump ahead to uh the I don't know, let's
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: do the let's do the girl power bullshit. Let's go
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: here first, though.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: Second wave feminism, that is, the feminism of the sixties
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: and seventies and a bit in the eighties, was the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: kind of feminism your dad or granddad might recall with
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: fear in their eyes. Political lesbian heading on put footage
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: and Marxist the load of them. But were the first
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: wave broke ground in women's enfranchisement, the second wave got
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: a law done in the way of women entering the workforce.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: And here's some actual history ahead. This was never like emancipation,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: was never a fight of women against men. More women
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: weren't interested in it than men. Right, Okay, so that's bullshit.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: It who if they figured that out, they might blame
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: men for giving me the vote if you keep that
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: in their back pocket in case it backfires.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right. But regardless, like you know what,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: anything I could say to this would just probably go
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: over her head if she would ever even listen to it.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: But also, this is just a mouthpiece, guys. There's a
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: reason why powerful interests prop these women up, and it's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: because they provide an excellent shield for larceny mm hm.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: And and yeah, that's it. This woman is basically just
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: a mouthpiece for some seriously unsavory forces. Shall we say,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: all right, let's keep.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: It all right mass as well as in the way
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: of sexual rights, albeit mostly for white women, as women
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: of color had been in the workforce that whole time.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: But I see it's kind of weird, right, Oh. I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to mention something before when she said, you know
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: your your granddad or your dad would have reacted recoiled
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: at this. He is trying to divide girls and women
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: against their against the men in their life. That's like
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: the purpose of that statement. Like, I mean, anytime you, oh,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: your dad would have hated feminism, he probably did in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: his dime. He's not gonna tell you he secretly hates
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you because you're a woman. You should probably like do
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: something about it. I'm telling you that's not an accident.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: These there are everything is deliberate, Okay, we have to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: treat them as deliberate, all this stuff. So when they
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: say these things that they're doing it on purpose. So
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: they want you to fight with your dad, I mean,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: and they make it into like a jokey trope, like
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: you know, every Thanksgiving you're ready to like storm out
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: of there because your father's gonna yell at you. It's
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: never like your mom. It's always your dad, right anyway,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: So let's let me see seven nine. We'll go to Yeah,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the riot girl stuff. So I think,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: like right here, the hair.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: Right off those pesky lesbians, as discussed by Susan Feluti
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: in her seminal book Backlash. In Backlash, Flute draws from
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: a number of examples of popular refrain in eighties media,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: which held that the Second Wave had culminated in a
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: woman who was a depraved, soulless, single career. Banshee distilled
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: most perfectly into the psychopathic mankilling character of Alex Forrest
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: in Fatal Attraction.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be ignored.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Most compelling about literally the Fatal Attraction character was the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: villain and not typical, like that's not usually. That was
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: why the movie was a big deal. But okay, whatever,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: all right, So trying to find the Riot girls because
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's that this here, Yeah, I think it is.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: That she chose to embrace her own sexiness and femininity
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: and housewiffery. In the early nineties, though, there was a
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: glimmer of hope that came in the form of a
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: girl named Kathleen Hannah and her friends Kathy Willcox, Billy Karen,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: and Toby Vale, who comprised the band Bikini Kill. Bikini
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: Kill were the poster children of an emerging scene in
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: the Pacific Northwest called riot girls. Why are we this
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: rock movement that operated on the ethos of two seemingly
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: contradictory works.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, stop stop, what does this have to do with
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: the thesis? What is her thesis?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: Um?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: What is the thesis? Sorry? Hold on, let me just
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: get it. Let's just get it from here, all right.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: The video critically examines a British Folgue article titled is
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Having a Boyfriend Embarrassing and situates it within a broader
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: context of contemporary feminism, social media culture, and capitalist influences.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: It highlights how the article and much of TikTok feminism
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: focuses on personal branding, individualism, and self policing among women,
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  Speaker 1: often reinforcing patriarchal capitalism, rather than challenging systemic gender issues
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  Speaker 1: like safety, power dynamics, and gender based violence. The discussion
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  Speaker 1: traces the evolution of feminism from second wave radicalism through
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  Speaker 1: the dilution of girl power and pop culture, to today's
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  Speaker 1: neoliberal feminism, which commodifies resistance and empowerment as marketable esthetics.
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  Speaker 1: It critiques how social media fosters a culture of solitude,
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  Speaker 1: masses independence, alienating women from genuine community and political solidarity.
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  Speaker 1: So she's saying that we need to come together and
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  Speaker 1: fight the power. But like this kind of like neoliberal
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  Speaker 1: capitalist feminism is too focus on individualism, which is dividing
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  Speaker 1: girls against like outside of their own and they're not
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  Speaker 1: coming together and like just overthrowing all the men right,
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  Speaker 1: and we have to like establish all this history to
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  Speaker 1: do it. Plus, every video is an opportunity for me
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  Speaker 1: to propagandize girls that are watching my channel. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna inject as much bullshit into this video it was possible,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: and make you sit down for about an hour while
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I go through the entire history of everything, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make sure that you understand that all of this
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  Speaker 1: is connected and the whole thing is trust me, wait
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  Speaker 1: till the end of the law makes sense. So that's
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  Speaker 1: basically the video. Ultimately, the video argues that this is
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: branded feminism, exemplified by the Vogue article and TikTok trends,
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  Speaker 1: which prioritizes image over action, individual gain over collective progress,
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  Speaker 1: and serves capitalist interests more than true feminist liberation. It's
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation about having a conversation about having a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's the thesis.
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  Speaker 2: So much energy so much intellectual energy devoted to the
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  Speaker 2: pursuit of stupidity astounding. Yeap, Can we just move to
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  Speaker 2: the next freakin You wanna go to the next video? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's just go the next video. What can you say
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  Speaker 2: to this? This is like watching someone have an argument
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  Speaker 2: in a freaking belgiar. It's like, okay, well, you keep
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  Speaker 2: doing that until you exhaust your own oxygen and pass out.
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  Speaker 1: All right, All right, then let's look at another video
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  Speaker 1: by queer Keywi called Weaponizing Competence. I'll just give you
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  Speaker 1: the thesis of this one so we know what we're
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  Speaker 1: getting into. The topic is weaponizing competence, specifically focusing on
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  Speaker 1: men not pulling their weight in relationships by being deliberately
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  Speaker 1: unhelpful or unaware in everyday tasks such as attending appointments,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: grocery shopping, and household chores. The video highlights how men
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  Speaker 1: often rely on their partners women to manage responsibilities and
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  Speaker 1: how this behavior is frustrating and unfair, and it addresses
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  Speaker 1: apparently a normalization of this pattern and emphasizes the need
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  Speaker 1: for men to take responsibility and be equal participants in relationship. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you heard that right, It's time for men to take responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: What men are supposed to take responsibility for. They're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to pay the bills. They're supposed to earn half as
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  Speaker 2: much as the average man to even be in a relationship. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to listen, So that's not emotional labor. When
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: a man has to listen to the mania of a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: woman's day or her endless complaints about the nail, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's not emotional labor. So he has to do that.
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  Speaker 2: He has to text her least she become insecure.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She has to be the only person in the relationship
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  Speaker 2: that is expected not to raise a hand to the
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  Speaker 2: other person.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He has to be the only person in the relationship
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  Speaker 2: who has to concern himself with her sexual consent. She
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to concern herself with his, Nor is that
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  Speaker 2: going to be a legal standard applied to his behavior
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  Speaker 2: or her behavior. Right. He has to be the only
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  Speaker 2: one in the relationship who has to deal with the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: potential of losing his children and half of his stuff. Right.
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  Speaker 2: He has to be the only one in the relationship
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  Speaker 2: whose emotional stuff is considered to be illegitimate, should she
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with it at all, which somehow isn't
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  Speaker 2: forcing men to be stoic, Right, It isn't forcing them
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  Speaker 2: to shut up about their feelings when you regard it
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  Speaker 2: some kind of horrible imposition if they talk about it. Right. So,
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  Speaker 2: all of these things he is expected to provide, and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she is expected to provide chores, chores,
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  Speaker 2: She's expected to do chores, right, somehow, at twelve she
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  Speaker 2: was expected to do chores. But as a Marria, a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: woman of thirty six, how could anyone expect her to
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  Speaker 2: do chores? How could anyone expect her to do such
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  Speaker 2: a thing, to degrade herself in such a manner as
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  Speaker 2: to do chores for the person who's most likely providing
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  Speaker 2: for the bills and most likely taking on the emotional
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  Speaker 2: labor of being the main provider. That means that she
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  Speaker 2: may have a job, but he knows that if he
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  Speaker 2: loses his job, that's it. Not just it for the relationship. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it for the relationship because she's gonna leave him,
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  Speaker 2: but it's also it for the household because the bills
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  Speaker 2: won't get paid. And also she's probably coming into the
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  Speaker 2: relationship with a huge amount of consumer debt and likely
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: student debt. Right, But that's but all of that is
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  Speaker 2: irrelevant because I guess men don't do as many chores
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  Speaker 2: and they're on the House bill paying could be considered Nope, Nope,
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  Speaker 2: they don't use many chides.
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  Speaker 1: They still do chores. Yes, they still do chores, of
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  Speaker 1: course they do.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact, at the most generous to women estimate
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  Speaker 2: only puts them doing a half hour more a day, right,
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  Speaker 2: And that's the most generous estimate. That's where you exclude
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  Speaker 2: almost everything that men generally do. And once you include
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  Speaker 2: all of that, and I've also done an analysis that
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  Speaker 2: includes that admortizes the life cost of injury and workplace
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  Speaker 2: death on men, and then the gap actually goes to
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  Speaker 2: men for about like an hour or two hours a day,
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  Speaker 2: because when you include the amount of life that men
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  Speaker 2: lose because of the stress the jobs that they take
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  Speaker 2: because of death on the jobs that they take, or
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  Speaker 2: injury on the dobs jobs that they take, you are
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  Speaker 2: looking at a large deficit in favor of men, large
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  Speaker 2: weekly deficit of life lost providing for women in favor
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: of men. But that's never counted for some reason, and
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: in this it's never counted for whoever this is that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: seems to have a real hatred for human reproduction, whoever
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  Speaker 2: it is, whoever they are, if they ever actually explain
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  Speaker 2: their motivation for hating it this much, like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it seems at this point like it's really pathological.
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  Speaker 2: It's like somebody is out there and for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 2: the idea of humans reproducing is the same as cockroaches
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  Speaker 2: reproducing to them, they just look at it and it
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  Speaker 2: just it's just disgusting. I don't I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: what what kind of group of people would have that
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  Speaker 2: kind of motivation about human reproduction. I'm just saying, it's
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  Speaker 2: just weird. We be the same type of people of
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: an obsession with having sex with children. All right, let's
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  Speaker 2: keep let's keep going, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So, well we just were just starting I haven't even
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  Speaker 1: like gotten into these yet. So let's go into this,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So she's going to this is the thing
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  Speaker 1: about this one. It's really dumb because well you'll see
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna have some video examples of men being incompetent, and.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get into it. So we'll start off with the
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: dentist and what he said.
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  Speaker 9: Men will come to their dental visits sometimes without knowing
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  Speaker 9: why they're there. That does not happen with women. Sixteen
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  Speaker 9: years of doing this, I have never seen a woman
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  Speaker 9: arrive at the dental office not knowing what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 9: Here's the kicker the men. When I have this interaction,
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  Speaker 9: and it's regular, it happens all the time. Uh, the
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  Speaker 9: men are not embarrassed. I don't know why the men
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  Speaker 9: aren't embarrassed, but they should do this. Here's my suggestion.
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  Speaker 9: At some point, your wife told you about the appointment.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know about verbally, maybe a text message, maybe
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  Speaker 9: an email. I don't know how. You guys communicate obviously
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 9: not well. But you need to say, okay, what's the
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  Speaker 9: appointment for? And then she will probably have to repeat
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  Speaker 9: herself because she probably already told you. But then your
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  Speaker 9: job is to listen to what she says, and you store.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, bitch, shut up, bitch, shut up, you snide fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you look in their mouth and see if
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong? That's what you do. Isn't it a dentist?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Like why don't you dentist? Like Jesus freaking Christ, you
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  Speaker 2: can't do an examination.
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  Speaker 1: He's doing the bird hands like.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm getting so many fem.
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  Speaker 1: Points he's a little bit zesty.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: See so many thumb points right now?
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  Speaker 1: You know another thing, I'm sorry, but like this, I
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  Speaker 1: know this is social media. Like how do we know
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  Speaker 1: he's actually a dentist because he said so that's that's
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: all because he has a TikTok called doctor Brady Smith.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's lying, but like, why do
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  Speaker 1: we just trust this? It sounds like he's just a
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  Speaker 1: social media guy that wears a fucking you know, smock
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever they call those scrubs, you know, and he
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: like shits on men and he and even this is
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: how this is why I'm suspicious. At the beginning of this,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: he says some men and then in this last bit
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: he says this happens all the time. Which one is it?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Is it sometimes or is it all the time? Because
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: those two things mean different things. But anyway, it sounds
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: like male feminism to me. Yes, all right, I'll play
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: the rest of this clip since you're.
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  Speaker 9: Typing, so that when I say, looks like we're doing
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  Speaker 9: an exam and cleaning, you go, because if one more
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 9: guy says I don't know what I'm doing here, and
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 9: my wife scheduled the appointment I'm going to create a
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 9: wheel of services and I'm just gonna.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Spin the way.
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  Speaker 9: It's gonna have root canal, full dentures, sinus lift, Keith Whitening,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 9: night guard, ap around with the laser whatever, and we're
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 9: gonna spin that wheel and whatever it lands on, that's
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: what you're getting. And I'll call your wife.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if he doesn't know what he's there for, you're
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: the dentist.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to know. Don't you have people that like
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: when I go I go to the doctor, I don't
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: have to know why I'm why I'm going. I mean,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I do know, but I don't have to. I could
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: show up and they're like, oh, you're here for this
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: because they have it. So then what And I know
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: that this is true of dentists too, So what's the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: purpose of this? Then he's obviously not telling the truth
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: about like like how the dentist doesn't know either, which
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: is crazy. So what is the point of this? What
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: is the point of it?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just assume that you're This is so
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: freaking like, Okay, I had to really push to get
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Jonathan to go to the dentist, But once he was there,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: the dentist correctly identified the things that needed to happen.
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  Speaker 1: You mean he wasn't just staying there going why are
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: you here? And if you don't know, I can't do
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  Speaker 1: anything for you at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he wasn't like this fucking.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Like dentists literally only work in one part of your body. Yes,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: they only have to look at your mouth, that's their job.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: It's just this area. Doctors have to look at everything.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Dentists just have to worry about this like one little area,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: this little area here. And he's like, I don't know
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: why you're here? Is it your foot?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: What a freaking incompetent? Like somebody's got to find his
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: clinic and says, say, this man doesn't even know to
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: give his patients dental exams. He doesn't know how to
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: do that. Like he's I know, he's like, Oh, I'm
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: going to really stick it to the other men. I'm
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: going to be the one good dentist man here. Yeah, no,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: you're incompetent. Why don't you just start with an exam?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just ask them? Is anything hurting? Yeah?
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: My molar is hurting a bit, you know, Like why
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: would you why would you get on the internet just
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: to insult men. Oh what am I talking about? That
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: is its own reward, isn't it for a certain type
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: of man?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I got a super chat from senior Stix,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: thank you, and he says for two dollars. You know,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: there is no right answer except misogyny. Yes, that's like
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: where all these always land. All right, so let's see
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: if there's a little bit more of this.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 9: Kevin didn't know why I was here, so we spun
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 9: the wheel and it landed on full dentures.
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  Speaker 5: So I just think this is both really sad and
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: also are really funny because I so.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she just took this completely seriously at face value.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: This totally happens. Men do this? Aren't men dumb? Like
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: this is the this whole video is that she reacts
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: to stuff online and doesn't even know if it's real,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: but because it's it affirms her bias about men that
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: she just takes it as Facebook. Oh, that's that totally happened.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: And these get really ridiculous too, like look at this one.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: This is this is men going to the grocery store
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: and not knowing what to get. Unless you wanted to
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: say something about the other thing first before I play this,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: I'm boggling, like if the guy, if somebody arrives at
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: your dental office, just assume it's an exam, or just
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: ask them something hurting, like why is this? But again,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: it's just about making it's just about getting points online.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Hugh in the vertical Chat for Hue in the Vertical
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Chat said why would you go to the dentist and
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: expect him to know why you're there. They're supposed to know.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: If they have you down for an appointment, then the
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: appointment is for something. If you show up at the
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: dentist's office, have you ever been to a doctor? If
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: you have an appointment with the doctor, there is a
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: purpose for the appointment. The people at the clinic know
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: what that is. So even if you're if you're like
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: somebody else did this whole thing for you and you
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: just show up, even if you don't know, they are
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: supposed to know so, And in fact, it's actually more
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: important that they know than you because I could be
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: going for labs for something and not know what that is.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: They're the ones that know, oh, he needs to get
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: blood drawn, because we have to look at all of
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: these things. You know, tumor markers. We have to look
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: at his LD four, we have to look at this thing,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: we have to look at his liver, we have to
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: look at all of these these things. We know that
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: not me. I'm not supposed to show up. They're going,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: do you have lab number t X forty one for
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: my That's not my job, that's their job. So if
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: you go to the dentist, the dentist, and you have
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: an appointment there, the dentist should know what the appointment
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: is for because that is his job. Okay, that's more
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: morton that they know that than you as the client.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you should know, but like it, sometimes
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: you don't know. Sometimes you're like, well something is wrong.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go and see what they find right somewhere.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Or you're somebody, I made you an appointment for the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: dentists and maybe they're not clear on what that is.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's her fault, maybe she didn't communicate why he
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: was going. But he did go because he showed up
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: to the appointment. So it's not like the man was
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: being completely like, ah, fuck it, I'm not gonna go.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: He showed up. He just didn't know what he was
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: showing up for he trusted his wife would know why
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: he had to go and decided to go. Do you
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: get that? Do you have a wife? Do you understand?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Do you go to doctor's appointments? Do you know how
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: that works? That go to the doctor every month? He
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: asked me, why I'm there? There's one hundred of the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: things you could be there for. Well, I don't know
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: how sick you are, bro, but they should know that
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: is their job to know. Like that, you can't even
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: argue against this. I'm not getting upset, but it's.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: Like you're being ridiculous, Like if you show up at
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: the if you have an appointment with the mechanic, I
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 7: mean I would know why they're there to see my car,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: but they would also know, like we're gonna have a conversation.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: About it anyway, So let's get to the And it's,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think it's an obvious The video
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: is completely unserious. He was obviously using social media to
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: get a bunch of views and likes from women who
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: are just like they just by default settings are I
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: don't like my men, or I don't like men in general.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Let's look at how dumb men are today. And so
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: they go click on this guy's video and he's like,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: please give me a like I have a beard, you know,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm shitting on men right now, and so they
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: like it. That's why he's big. Come on, guys, you
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's obvious. Like, if you want to make
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: it big on social media, shit on men, you'll make
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: it big. You'll blow up. It's easy. So just you
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: take that free advice. You want to make a lot
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: of money online, go go on TikTok and shit on men.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: You'll blow up. But anyway, here's another one and uh
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: where again there's these this and I want you to
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: just pay attention to the tone of this because she
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: reacts to this completely seriously. Okay.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 11: Sometimes I get sent out with a shopping list and
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 11: my wife's like, do you want me to explain that
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 11: to you? And I'm like, I think I can handle it.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 11: And then I get to the grocery store, I'm like,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 11: what is a shallet? You know what I'm saying? How
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 11: many avocados?
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: Is avocados?
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 11: If I messed that up, or we're going to be
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 11: eating guacamole for the next week, Apples, cinnamon, shit take mushrooms.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 11: That's a little rude tomato, sauce, dill weed? What what
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 11: al is that in milk? That's that's way too vague. Okay,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 11: my house, we go through stuff like oat milk, soy milk,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 11: rice milk, coconut milk, almond milk, every kind of milk.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: The only kind of milk that's not incompetent is milk.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: It, let's finish the clip.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 11: Okay, I don't I don't even know milk tastes like anymore?
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 11: How do you milk an almond? I this is gonna
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: take me an hour and a half to find all
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 11: this stuff. I should have asked more questions. Okay, thanks, by.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: What this creature?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: I just I?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: First of all, those are all legitimate questions. Now, chataki mushroom,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He doesn't know what a schataki mushrooms?
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: Just has to ask somebody dull weed? Where's the spice style?
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: That's all just a matter of asking someone to help
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: you find it. But yes, the almond, the milk, ish,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: the milk question is honestly quite legitimate. Now, how is
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: this little goblin going to demonstrate why women should never
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: have had the vote.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Let's hear Allison that guy was doing a bit. He
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't serious. That was a whole joke. I hope that's
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: why he was making fun of we have all the
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: different milks except milk. I mean, there is a there
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: is truth to it too. He's kind of making fun
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: of his wife for being vague, like Lindsey sends me
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: to the store sometimes, or I go to the store
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: and I say what do you want? And she'll say avocados.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: She'll literally do that. She'll say avocados, And I'm like, okay,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: how many you know? But can you? Can you get
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: like a bag? Like a bag? Can you be specific?
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: But I just ask, like, I don't make a I
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: don't do that. But this guy was doing a bit.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: He's making fun of the way that men and women
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: miscommunicate and and he's making fun of that. And she's like,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: that's totally real, that's real, that's a real phenomenon. That
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: guy really did that, and he's really useless. That's what
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: that's her takeaway.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let me label the problems in my
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: autistic way with that one. Yes, I know he's doing
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: a bit it, but I knew that she would not
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: recognize that two even if it is a bit. He's
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: actually making legitimate questions, which is what's funny about it.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, because he's doing observational observation comedy.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: Now, what I'm curious is how this goblin, this hob
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: goblin is going to What the fuck is that behind
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: her head? Is that like a freaking vibrator?
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: This up here? I don't know. Probably I know that
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: she does. I know that she has had sex toy
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: companies as sponsors, but I don't know, probably some kind
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: of wand yet.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: What the hell is this stuff to the left? What
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: are the frightening things that she has on her shelf?
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: It's like the testicles of previous one night stands. I
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: don't know. Those are like I don't know, Alison, I
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna try to figure like, how is she
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: going to misrepresent this? Okay?
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: There are so many of them about grocery shopping. I've
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: got a few of them because that these enraged me
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: more than just about anything.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Rage.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: It's not that hot, right, Like the question here that
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: bothers me the most.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: I want you to get me milk, not cow milk.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: I want you to get me the milk that I
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: drink that isn't cow milk. And if you don't get
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: it right, I'm gonna slap you in minecraft. That's the problem, right. Oh,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: It's so enraging.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, if if Lindsay is vague with me
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: when I go to the store, I always just straight
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: up like, you have to be more. You have to
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: be very specific because I'm gonna get what you asked for.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: So if she says, get me milk, and I be like, okay,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: well a gallon of milk, a quart of milk, a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: half gallon? Do you want almond milk? You want regular milk?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: You know? But I got her, I got her trained.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: She says that she says exactly what I need, and
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: then I like, I got it figured out. You know,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: if it's avocado's I know how many Now she would
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: just be like, okay, like two whatever.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: So okay, just Huie in the chat, Hughie in the chat.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: I go to the doctor every month and they ask
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: me why I'm there. There's hundreds of things that you
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: could be Huie. You have a problem, and if you
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: are going to the doctor every month, that problem maybe
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: went well beyond our big grade. Okay, let's he's going
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: to the back. He's going to the doctor every month. Yeah,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: and they're asking him why he's there.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's like when I when I had a
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: junker car and I was constantly bringing it to the
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: mechanic and I'm like, yeah, I got to get rid
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: of this thing at some point. All right, anyway, Uh,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: let's go to the next one. I mean, basically, what
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: do you want me to hear the rest of this?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: Figure it out?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 10: Bro?
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: If you just ask me what I anything is in,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you. I don't know. I go to
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: the grocery shop. I go to the soup market all
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: the time, all the time, and I go to different
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: soupmokeets depending on like where I am or what I want. Right,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know what isle shit is kept in by.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but men should know. So okay, Uh, anyway,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: moron opinion disregarded. Let's see another. Okay, there's a text
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: conversation that she has a law At a little bit later,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: I think, what's this.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: Like, how a grocery list for my husband looks sending them?
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, she has a husband. Oh my god,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: what is going on down under? Well? Why are these
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: men marrying these people. All right, let's let's just keep
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: you going.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: And it's my idiot husband.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: So he's like going through Uh, it's essentially like a
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: series of screenshots of texts between a woman and her husband.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Supposedly this is TikTok. So this could just be Chinese propaganda,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: but this is a a supposedly real conversation. You know,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: you you ever see those memes or like images of
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: like text conversations and they have a really funny punchline.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Totally real, guys, they're totally real things. What we're gonna say.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: My idiot husband? Okay, so we're starting off on a
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: really good foot here. I'm pretty sure my idiot wife
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: would probably be received very differently. But let's go ahead,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: let's see it.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: All right, to grocery shop, Wait till the end. Can
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: you grab some milk on your way home? Got it? Easy, peasy? Wait,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: whole milk, two whole milk, skim milk is the same, right,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: it says hole on the cotton. No whole milk, red
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 5: cap found it. But there's organic, grass fed lactose free.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: Just get regular whole milk, got it? Wait? What brand
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter? Any brand? Store brand or the one with
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: the happy cow. Happy cow is fine? Okay, but they're
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: out of happy cow.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 6: Should I get.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: Almond milk instead? No, whole milk, regular cow, red cap.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: Got it. I'm moving to the bread aisle. We need bread, right, No,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: just milk? Stay focused. Oh there's a sale on chips.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: Which flavor do you want? No chips, just the milk? Okay?
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Wait?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 5: Do we need eggs?
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: Just wait? What are you holding right now? A box
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: of cereal it's on sale and a pineapple? Pineapple? Why?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: It looks nice? Oh my goodness, I'm coming to the store.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: Great can you and I?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a control freak. Let them get his cereal,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: chips and pineapple.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: It's a bit. It's not real. It's not a real
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: thing that happened. He's that they literally this was a
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: bit written by a woman. And you know this because
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: the man in this fiction acts like a woman, gets distracted,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: wants pineapple because it looks nice, you know, starts fretting
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: about other things. This is a lie, and she's pretending
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: like it's true. I'm sorry, but it's not. It's it's
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: a joke. It was it was an okay, joke, you know,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, it was an okay joke. But when
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: you take it's like the theme with all these videos.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: They take things that are not real or they're like
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: fictional accounts made by people who already agree with him ideologically,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: and then they present that to the world like it's real.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: And then they comment on that, and they have an
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: argument with that, They have an argument and a debate
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: and a critique of lies created by people who already
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: agree with them, and they present that as reality.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, like this is similaiers like abstraction from reality. Yes,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: it's Uh, how do you how do you get through
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: to these individuals? I mean, you know what, I honestly
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: I think that this is probably cover for something deeper.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: But these people are paid to do this to destroy
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: human sexuality, reproduction relationship. For me, I don't I want
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: to know why.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: I think that these women, these people, these youthful idiots
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: are basically destroying relationships between men and women. And it's
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: hop purpose. Yeah. Uh yeah, that's that's all. That's it.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: It's it's on purpose.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, So do you have any further.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: I got one, yeah, I got one more?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: One more?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Do you want?
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: Okay? Let's let's do it so bad.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 5: This is probably the one that pissed me off more
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 5: than anything else. And this is how to look like
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: you're doing things around the house for the wife. One
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: walk fast around the house and he is just quite
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: literally walking around the house. Go in and out of
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: the house two to three times, just walking in and
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: out of the house through the door, just in and out,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: closing the door each time. Three pick up random things
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: and just put them back down. Most important. One do
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: a quick jog like you're lost. Just do the work,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: bro like he captured this. I promise your wife will
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 5: never ask you to do anything again. This will make
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: you look really busy. Hashtag trippy husband, hashtag dad goals,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: hashtag husband goals, hashtag couples talk just do Okay?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: Do you not understand humor?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: No? See the spurg Do you mean does your.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: O limbic system process stuff like this? No? Okay, I
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: don't know what to say you. Maybe in the next
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: upgrade you'll understand humor. All right, I am I'm sort
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: of done with this. I think I think I'm sure
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: you're very done with this.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I watched the whole thing, all three of them.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: You watched the whole.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: I watched all three of them. Yes, I had to,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: because even though I get time codes with Coral, it's
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: not entirely accurate. So I feel like I have to
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: watch them because something might jump out at me.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, well I can uh go a little
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: bit deeper into the second one. So she she does
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: sort of track something the fact that these narratives are
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: being used for something darker, like, uh, well, I don't know.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: If it's darker, there used be something else. And that's
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: to provide cover for what I would what I consider financialism,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: which is like capitalism. Sorry, it's like communism wearing a
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: capitalist skin. And but she doesn't. She continues to just
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: blame patriarchy in that. So I don't know. It's like, uh,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: they never go far enough, they never go one step
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: further because they can't condemn feminism itself. They can't condemn
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: the fact that feminism creates a simplistic villain narrative that's
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: really beneficial to people who want to neutralize the complaints
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: of men. Who do you think that that who? Who?
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: Who wants to neutralize the complaints of men, and in
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: particularly the complaints of men when it comes to the
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: things that men do, like infrastructure and industrial work and
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: and creation of commodities. Like who wants to be? Will
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: to neutralize the complaints of the men who are part
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: of the productive layer of society? Who could that be? Who?
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: Who wants to exploit those men? Feminists? Who? Yeah, those
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: are the those are That's who we all serve, or
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: that's who these narratives serve. All right, That's all I
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: have to say about that second one. She doesn't take
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: it far enough because she has feminism is still wholly
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: in her mind. She can't escape it because she can't
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: escape her femininity like I have. I have become a
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: being of pure energy and pats. Okay, all right, okay,
• 1:52:42
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