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The Captain Armband Has Been Passed on ISS · Made of Stars

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Speaker 4: When we are made of stars. I'm West Carol, joined
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Speaker 4: by my good friend doctor Sean Cruise in from Columbus
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Speaker 4: State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Sean Wes.
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Speaker 1: It's good to be here. Looking forward to to talking
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Speaker 1: about space news today.
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Speaker 4: Well, we we had sort of an unusual event last week.
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Speaker 4: Uh and that you were you were pulled away and
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Speaker 4: I had to do a show solo. First time we've
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Speaker 4: done that ever, and it was it was kind of
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Speaker 4: it felt very destined in a way because we had
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Speaker 4: had a conversation. We've had this conversation on the show
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Speaker 4: a couple of times over the years.
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Speaker 3: But a friend of mine, one.
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Speaker 4: Of my really close friends who listens to us, you know,
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Speaker 4: reached out and said, you know what happens if you know,
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Speaker 4: they need surgery on the International Space Station, And you know,
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Speaker 4: I kind of laid out what I had remembered, what
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Speaker 4: we what you and I had talked about with it,
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Speaker 4: and then you know, I was kind of tracing back
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Speaker 4: around or circling back around to you, going maybe we
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Speaker 4: should talk about this on the show coming up, and
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Speaker 4: then you know, just kind of recapping what I had
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Speaker 4: said to her, and You're like, no, that's that's all right,
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Speaker 4: you got it. And then you shared an article with
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Speaker 4: me that had some info in it that was really
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Speaker 4: interesting about, you know, some of the experiments that they
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Speaker 4: had done on the vomit comet. So it just kind
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Speaker 4: of all played out, and then I thought, well, I'll
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Speaker 4: just handle this one on my own. Apparently I kind
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Speaker 4: of know what I'm talking about, at least a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I've picked up some things over the years. So anyway,
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Speaker 4: that's how it played out. A week ago. I'm glad
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Speaker 4: that you're back, and you said that you know you
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Speaker 4: had to listen and yeah, no, no corrections. I thought
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Speaker 4: maybe this would be the point in the show where
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Speaker 4: we'd have some corrections in case I missed anything.
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Speaker 1: But friend, you know, you more than kind of know
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You've you know, had a several
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Speaker 1: years of intensive study of the space industry and the
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Speaker 1: latest happenings in space news because of our joint partnership
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Speaker 1: here on Native Stars, So you absolutely know what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about. You and I had had these covers about,
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Speaker 1: you know, the space medical emergencies from time to time.
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Speaker 1: And also you know, back in twenty twenty three, there
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Speaker 1: was a movie filmed aboard the International Space Station with
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Speaker 1: a with basically a movie star sent up by the
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Speaker 1: Russians called Her name was Yulia Parasiled, and she probably
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Speaker 1: had a surgeon who was sent up to the Russian
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Speaker 1: space to the Russian space station to correct the medical
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Speaker 1: issue of a Russian astronaut who's on board the space station.
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Speaker 1: And there's national security issues and things like that. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to no spoiler alerts here, but back
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Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty three, there was actually a film
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Speaker 1: made by the Russians about this very subject, right, like
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Speaker 1: having to fly a special surgeon up because they this
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Speaker 1: person was too sick to bring home and so rather
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Speaker 1: than the kind of ambulatory adventure that you described on
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Speaker 1: last week's podcast. This one fictional, of course, they flew
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Speaker 1: the surgeon to the patient aboard ISS to purpose to
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Speaker 1: do a space surgery. So anyway, kind of an interesting thing.
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Speaker 1: That movie's called The Challenge. I have not actually seen it,
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Speaker 1: but now that I'm reminding myself of it, I think
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Speaker 1: i'd really like to see that movie. I'd like to
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Speaker 1: see how that all went down.
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Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about that on this show,
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Speaker 4: and you know the movie itself, and that was probably
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Speaker 4: the most recent time that we had discussed it. I
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Speaker 4: didn't even think to mention the movie last week when
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Speaker 4: we did this, but it does. It does sound interesting,
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Speaker 4: And I didn't really talk about that as a scenario
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Speaker 4: because it seems like a really unlike unlikely scenario in
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Speaker 4: that if it's that much of an emergence, like if
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Speaker 4: someone's appendix were to burst, it's not like they're going
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Speaker 4: to go all right, when's our next launch.
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Speaker 3: Window that we can send someone up?
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Speaker 4: Although you know, SpaceX could probably get a rocket together
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Speaker 4: and send it up pretty quickly. They don't seem to
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Speaker 4: waste a lot of time whenever it's time to send
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Speaker 4: up a launch. Now you mentioned I've been doing this
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Speaker 4: basically almost like a course since two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 4: that we've been doing a version of this for that long.
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Speaker 4: What was interesting about this though, is this is the
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Speaker 4: first week I felt like I took a test. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's the first time I had been graded by doctor
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Speaker 4: Sean Cruising. So, you know, I think it's more than
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Speaker 4: a test. I think it's like a capstone project. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's like that solo flight in an aircraft. I mean,
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Speaker 4: you did the whole thing.
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I earned my doctorate last week. So
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Speaker 4: if we can we can get me that honorary framed
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Speaker 4: thing that I can hang on the wall, that'd be fantastic.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're now a doctor of Science podcast. My friend,
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Speaker 1: I'll tek you to the club. Welcome to the club.
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Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. I'll take it.
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Speaker 4: Well, we have we're waiting on the Crew nine launch
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Speaker 4: and the first date that it was possibly going to launch.
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Speaker 4: We're actually recording on Wednesday. We normally do Thursday, but
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Speaker 4: we're recording on Wednesday this week with some things going on,
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Speaker 4: one of those things being possible severe weather in our
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Speaker 4: area over the next couple of days. But tomorrow was
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Speaker 4: supposed to be the first I guess said no earlier
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Speaker 4: than the twenty sixth for the Crew nine launch. So
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Speaker 4: that's now been delayed obviously because you know, there's some
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Speaker 4: wind and rain coming to Florida.
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Speaker 1: Her name is Helene, you know, so, and Helene. If
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Speaker 1: you're listening out there, I don't mean you, I mean
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Speaker 1: the hurricane. The hurricane named Helene.
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Speaker 3: Well that one may be listening to. You know.
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Speaker 1: Just bear down, Allen, if you're listening out there, take
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Speaker 1: it easy on the Space coast, would you please. And
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Speaker 1: if you kind of missed Columbus Georgia, that'd be all
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Speaker 1: right as well. That'd be fine. I don't my Space
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Speaker 1: Sience Center leaks on occasion, and you know, we really
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Speaker 1: don't need that.
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Speaker 3: So nobody needs that. Nobody needs that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah anyway. So yeah, so the actual first part of
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Speaker 1: the window is the twenty fourth. They had announced a
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Speaker 1: launch on the twenty sixth, which is Thursday, as West
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Speaker 1: is saying tomorrow was recording the show. But now they
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Speaker 1: came out and said, oh, that's a pretty big storm
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Speaker 1: coming our way. We're going to go ahead and just
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Speaker 1: say we're not launching any sooner than Saturday, September twenty eighth,
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Speaker 1: so as we record the podcast right now, NASA has
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Speaker 1: released a statement saying although Tropical Storm Holen at this point,
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Speaker 1: Tropical Storm Holen is moving through the Gulf of Mexico
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Speaker 1: and is expected to impact the Florida Panhandle, the storm
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Speaker 1: system is large enough that high winds and heavy rain
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Speaker 1: are expected in the Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island regions
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Speaker 1: of Florida's east coast. So what they're saying because of
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Speaker 1: all of that is they're going to go ahead and
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Speaker 1: put bump this launch off. The Crew nine mission, by
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Speaker 1: the way, originally had four space flyers, but they're now
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Speaker 1: down to two. This is a rare event. So two
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Speaker 1: space flyers don't usually go to space in that kind
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Speaker 1: of Gemini mode, right. The Gemini missions were the missions
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Speaker 1: with two astronauts back in the American Space Program days,
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Speaker 1: the early parts of the American Space Program. Only a
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Speaker 1: couple of other times have two astronauts gone to space,
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Speaker 1: most notably the time that the the first two pilots
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Speaker 1: of the Space Shuttle went to space, or Bob Crippen
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Speaker 1: and John Young. So, in other words, two astronauts don't
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Speaker 1: go to space very often these days in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: the crews are usually three or larger, right, and so
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Speaker 1: the fact that there's only two going up in this
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Speaker 1: missions kind of in some ways historic. It's kind of
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Speaker 1: a throwback a little bit. But the two astronauts are
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Speaker 1: Nick Haig from NASA and Russian cosmonaut Alexander Gorbanov, and
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Speaker 1: they'll be going to ISS aboard what is being called
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Speaker 1: Crew nine. But two of the Crew nine astronauts are
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Speaker 1: already on the International Space Station. That's a tad unusual,
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Speaker 1: but we know them as our old friends, Sunny Williams
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Speaker 1: and Butch Wilmore, who were the Boeing Starliner astronauts. They've
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Speaker 1: simply shifted them over to Crew nine assignments. The two
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Speaker 1: other Crew nine astronauts have been bumped from that flight.
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Speaker 1: They will receive new assignments, and so it's kind of
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Speaker 1: a shuffling of the deck because of the whole Boeing Starliner.
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Speaker 1: You know, quote unquote stuck in space astronauts. By the way, friends,
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Speaker 1: they're still not stuck in space. They are still not
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Speaker 1: stuck in space. They have not once been stuck in space.
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Speaker 1: Even today in September of twenty twenty four. These astronauts
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Speaker 1: are not stuck in space. They have a ride home.
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Speaker 1: It's not a comfortable ride. It's in the cargo area
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Speaker 1: of a Dragon capsule. So if an emergency occurred right now,
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Speaker 1: the four American astronauts aboard the International Space Station crew
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Speaker 1: eight astronauts, they would simply take the four seats and
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Speaker 1: they would put Butch and Sunny well, they would stuff
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Speaker 1: them in what's called the cargo area of Dragon, but
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Speaker 1: it's basically underneath the seats. They would put on some
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Speaker 1: space suits and some bubble wrap, and they would ride
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Speaker 1: their way back down to Earth underneath the seats. The
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Speaker 1: way when I was a small child, my friends and
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Speaker 1: I used to be snuck into the drive in theater,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of under the seats with some bubble
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Speaker 1: wrap around us or something.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, statute limitations is run out on that. You
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Speaker 3: don't know anything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're good, mister Jones who ran the movie theater.
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Speaker 1: If you're out there listening, I'm sorry we did it.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: If you need my five bucks, I'll give it to
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Speaker 1: you now. But anyway, so just just email Wes and
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Speaker 1: we'll work it out, all right. So the astronauts could
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Speaker 1: make it home even now. However, the plan, though, isn't that.
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Speaker 1: The plan is to now dock this SpaceX Crew nine
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Speaker 1: Dragon capsule and bring the astronauts back aboard that. That capsule,
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Speaker 1: by the way, named Freedom, ironically giving Butch and Sunny
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Speaker 1: freedom from being not trapped aboard the enter Space Station.
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Speaker 4: That's right, So this is gonna happen just as a
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Speaker 4: vessel has just left.
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Speaker 3: And earlier this week we had.
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Speaker 4: A NASA astronaut return home and I saw it build
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Speaker 4: as okay, so one of the NASA's gotten one other
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Speaker 4: astronauts home.
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Speaker 3: That was the plan.
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Speaker 4: This is part of a crew that came home with
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Speaker 4: two cosmonauts when they came home on the SOI Use
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Speaker 4: And there's a couple of elements to this story, and
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Speaker 4: the big one obviously is the length of time that
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Speaker 4: one of the cosmonauts was there. But this cosmonaut actually
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Speaker 4: you know, passing off the captain's armband. So that's another
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Speaker 4: part of this story that's kind of cool.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, if you're the commander of the International Space Station
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Speaker 1: and you're going home, they have to make somebody else commander, right,
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Speaker 1: somebody has to be in charge up there right. Make
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Speaker 1: sure everybody's making their beds, cleaning up their room, putting
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Speaker 1: away their dishes. Somebody's got to be in charge. So
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Speaker 1: old Leg Cononenko has now returned aboard the Soyu spacecraft
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Speaker 1: back on September twenty second, a few days ago after
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Speaker 1: setting a record, so he became the world's most experienced
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Speaker 1: space flyer. A cumulative number of days in space one thousand,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven. One's across the board, friends one
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Speaker 1: to one, eleven hundred and eleven days in space. So
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Speaker 1: that's two hundred and thirty three days more than Ganadi Padalka,
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Speaker 1: who was the previous record holder at eight hundred and
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Speaker 1: seventy eight days. Conorenko now eleven hundred and eleven days
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Speaker 1: the world's most experienced space flyer. He was the commander
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Speaker 1: of the International Space Station and when he returned to
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Speaker 1: Earth with Nick Chubb and Tracy Dyson. That's Nikolai Chubb,
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Speaker 1: by the way, not the football player. Yeah, it's just
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Speaker 1: too it's just too tempting. Wess, I can't make myself
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Speaker 1: not do it.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: So Nikolai Chubb, a first time cosmonaut, and veteran of NASA,
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Speaker 1: Tracy Dyson, returned along with Conorenko aboard their Soyu spacecraft,
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Speaker 1: and now Conor Ninko has become the world record holder
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Speaker 1: for a number of days in space. But command of
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Speaker 1: the International Space Station was handed off too, Sony Williams.
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Speaker 1: That's right, the stranded Boeing astronaut.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just so hard not to do it, isn't it,
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Speaker 4: Whether it's Nick Shaw or stranding them, it's just so hard.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people listen to this show for some reason.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully it's the comedy anyway, So hopefully it's the
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Speaker 1: space news and the high level of intellect that we
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Speaker 1: apply to all of our coverage of space news here.
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Speaker 1: So Sunny Williams only intended to be up there for
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Speaker 1: eight days because of scheduling shuffling and yeah, something to
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Speaker 1: do with Boeing. She's going to be up there for
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Speaker 1: eight months. She's part of the Crew nine mission. Now,
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Speaker 1: Expedition thirty three is the actual group of astronauts a
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Speaker 1: board International Space Station. She's become commander of that expedition
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Speaker 1: and will serve that until she returns to Earth in February.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much extra paperwork and you know,
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Speaker 1: just administry that requires, but she has been given that
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Speaker 1: privilege to be the commander of the International Space Station
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Speaker 1: until her return back in February of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 4: We don't typically because of the nature of the show
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Speaker 4: and how things shift, but we've been referencing the Helene
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Speaker 4: and the fact that it's having an impact on all
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Speaker 4: of this. And I'm just going to quickly mention this
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Speaker 4: because I just got an update from the twelve year
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Speaker 4: old meteorologist who lives in my home, and they've just
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Speaker 4: done on eleven o'clock, I guess update. That's the latest
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Speaker 4: info that came in, and he says, based on that,
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Speaker 4: a tropical storm warning has been issued for Muskogee County officially,
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Speaker 4: and he said there was a shift to the west
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Speaker 4: and the cone the tropical storm force winds are likely
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Speaker 4: for us now.
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Speaker 3: So I'm just getting.
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Speaker 4: This hot off the press from junior meteorologist Luke Carroll,
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Speaker 4: So I just thought i'd pass that along just for
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Speaker 4: folks in the Shadow Hoochie Valley area. And of course,
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Speaker 4: if you're listening to this immediately after we release it,
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Speaker 4: this is relevant. If the two o'clock update or five
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Speaker 4: o'clock update comes in. By the time you hear it,
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Speaker 4: all this can change. So we just mentioned that, but
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Speaker 4: I just thought it was worth mentioning because he just
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Speaker 4: sent that to me while while you were talking, and
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Speaker 4: I thought, wow, this is relevant right now to the story.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I thought i'd give him a little
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Speaker 4: props for putting the putting the report together.
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Speaker 3: And now wait to go, Luke.
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Speaker 1: Were we're looking forward, by the way to your future career,
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Speaker 1: either with the Weather Channel or the National Oceanic and
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Speaker 1: Atmospheric Administration.
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Speaker 4: You know, or maybe he's going to be reading machines
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Speaker 4: on Mars and checking out the weather up there someday.
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Speaker 4: I keep telling him, you know, that's a thing. Now,
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Speaker 4: that's a thing. They have equipment on planet.
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Speaker 3: More made of stars.
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Speaker 4: Right after this, all right, let's talk about this a
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Speaker 4: snowman shaped asteroid that uh, it's that's missed us narrowly.
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Speaker 4: This just seems like a promo for another Are they
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Speaker 4: making another Frozen movie?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 3: Is that something o off for whatever?
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Speaker 1: Is this some?
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Speaker 4: Is this some kind of a very clever ad? Is
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Speaker 4: this Starman who's gotten out of the car the Tesla
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Speaker 4: that was launched into space. What is the snowman shaped
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Speaker 4: thing that flew past us?
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Speaker 1: I have to admit if you look at the actual
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Speaker 1: NASA imaging. By the way, live science dot com has
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Speaker 1: a great version of the story. That's where we pulled
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Speaker 1: most of our information today LiveScience dot com. A snowman
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Speaker 1: shaped asteroid is narrowly missing the Earth. If you look
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Speaker 1: at the photographs that go along with that story, it looks.
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Speaker 3: A lot like Oloft, it does, you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, it's like an Oloft. It's not just
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Speaker 1: a snowman shape asteroid. It's an olof shaped asteroid.
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Speaker 3: Well being.
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Speaker 4: And I know you're you've been in Georgia for a
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Speaker 4: very long time. You weren't born here.
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 4: I see a peanut first and foremost. I mean, that's
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Speaker 4: just part of being a Georgia native. But yes, it
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Speaker 4: does look like a snowman. But it's kind of making
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Speaker 4: me want to put some peanuts in a coke and drink.
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Speaker 3: It is what it makes me want to do. But
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Speaker 3: that's just being a natural born Georgia boy.
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Speaker 1: Is it Is it a boiled peanut or is it
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Speaker 1: just raw off the vine? I can't really tell from
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Speaker 1: these images.
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Speaker 4: I would eat either right now though, but it's getting
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Speaker 4: close to lunchtime.
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Speaker 3: But I would happily eat either one.
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Speaker 1: So asteroid twenty twenty four to N which is a
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Speaker 1: catalog number. It depends on what year it was discovered
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Speaker 1: and in what order it's discovered, and what kind of
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Speaker 1: an asteroid it is is what leads to that catalog number.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four O n did a close approach to
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Speaker 1: Earth back on the seventeenth of September, and we really
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Speaker 1: didn't see it coming. The thing about these things, right,
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Speaker 1: potentially hazard as asteroids can sometimes sneak up on you
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Speaker 1: and then NASA photographs them on their way by or
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Speaker 1: on their way out and basically asks, well, what was
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Speaker 1: that that just flew by? So this one was discovered
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Speaker 1: just this year, catalog just this year, according to its
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Speaker 1: trajectory and orbit, made a pass by Earth back in
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, not expected to make another pass until twenty
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Speaker 1: thirty five. It came within two point six times the
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Speaker 1: distance between the Earth and Moon, so about two and
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Speaker 1: a half times as far away as the Moon is,
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Speaker 1: which isn't as close as some asteroids obviously have come
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Speaker 1: in recent times even but it's still pretty close, right,
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Speaker 1: So it's six hundred and twenty thousand miles. And the
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Speaker 1: thing about that is that when you don't know they're coming,
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Speaker 1: and they're coming in at something on the order of
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Speaker 1: twenty thousand miles per hour, and they're as large as
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Speaker 1: a football stadium. Because that's what this big peanut was.
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Speaker 1: This giant olof was about nine hundred and fifty feet across.
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Speaker 1: That's large enough to actually cause some trouble in the hood,
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Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. So if this was
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Speaker 1: to hit the Earth, it's big enough to do some
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Speaker 1: substantial damage. So this is definitely an asteroid that NASA
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Speaker 1: has now added to their potentially hazardous asteroid list. They
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Speaker 1: will be tracking it in the future. It's safe right now.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to make close passes anytime in the future,
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Speaker 1: so it doesn't pose a significant danger right now. And
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Speaker 1: see that's the important part is even if we even
19:39
Speaker 1: if we track these asteroids, know their orbit very well,
19:42
Speaker 1: project their orbit into the future and see that they're
19:45
Speaker 1: not really slated to come anywhere near the Earth, things
19:49
Speaker 1: happen out there in space, right another asteroid might bump
19:52
Speaker 1: into it or heating as it draws near to the
19:56
Speaker 1: Sun might cause this asteroid to break apart because it
19:59
Speaker 1: has what called volatile compounds on the inside which can
20:02
Speaker 1: melt and separate the two chunks of the peanut, and
20:06
Speaker 1: then you have a peanut split. So as you have
20:10
Speaker 1: that peanut split happened, then you could have the asteroids
20:13
Speaker 1: on different trajectories, which then they could cause problems. So anyway,
20:16
Speaker 1: NASA definitely wants to track Olof as he moves off
20:20
Speaker 1: into the future.
20:21
Speaker 4: Coming up after a quick break, we'll talk about something else.
20:24
Speaker 4: It kind of looks like a snack that they found
20:27
Speaker 4: on Mars. We'll talk about that next. I'm hungry, Sean
20:52
Speaker 4: the Perseverance rover got an image of something that looks
20:56
Speaker 4: like a jelly belly. Maybe it's got some sort of
20:59
Speaker 4: candy on it. I don't know what's inside, but you know,
21:03
Speaker 4: I don't know how big it is even I guess you'll.
21:06
Speaker 3: Tell us that.
21:06
Speaker 4: But uh, definitely looks like something that came out of
21:09
Speaker 4: a maybe an easter basket or you know something or
21:13
Speaker 4: for the holidays, a striped rock.
21:16
Speaker 3: What is this thing?
21:19
Speaker 1: So you know, when you when you buy the variety
21:22
Speaker 1: pack of the jelly beans, uh huh, And you're trying
21:25
Speaker 1: to like look at the outside to see what kind
21:28
Speaker 1: of jelly You know, you don't you don't want to
21:30
Speaker 1: get a licorice one when you're expecting a peanut butter one.
21:33
Speaker 1: You know it's that kind of thing, right, So you're
21:35
Speaker 1: taking a good close look at it. Well, basically that's
21:38
Speaker 1: what NASA's doing with this new rock they found, because
21:41
Speaker 1: it's an unusual jelly bean. I mean, it's an unusual
21:43
Speaker 1: rock to find up there on Mars because it's all
21:48
Speaker 1: striped and speckled. And so if you want to join
21:52
Speaker 1: in with this and reviewing this article, the article I
21:55
Speaker 1: drew my information from came from NASA NASA dot gov.
21:58
Speaker 1: But there's lots of different stories about the same rock
22:00
Speaker 1: out there because it's weird. So NASA's Perseverance rover captured
22:05
Speaker 1: an image last week of a black and white striped
22:09
Speaker 1: rock on the surface of Mars, and they added that
22:12
Speaker 1: to the long list of black and white striped rocks
22:15
Speaker 1: that they found on Mars. And that list has exactly
22:18
Speaker 1: one rock on it, and that's this one. They've never
22:24
Speaker 1: seen one like this before.
22:25
Speaker 3: This is striped rock. Prime, is what you're saying.
22:28
Speaker 1: It's a list of one, one of one.
22:32
Speaker 3: Nice.
22:33
Speaker 4: I mean, if you can't be the best, be the first.
22:36
Speaker 4: That's what you gotta do, you know. Then then.
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Speaker 1: In the in the jelly bellied rocks of.
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Speaker 4: Mars, that's right, Yes, so, I I mean, I guess
22:46
Speaker 4: there's a number of questions. And my first question is, uh,
22:51
Speaker 4: you know, and I know you know they have to
22:53
Speaker 4: science it, right, but my first question is do we
22:56
Speaker 4: know it's originally from Mars? I could it have come
22:58
Speaker 4: from somewhere else? That's the first thing I think when
23:01
Speaker 4: I see it, because it doesn't look like anything else there.
23:03
Speaker 4: So you know, I mean, did it once look like
23:06
Speaker 4: a snowman flying by?
23:08
Speaker 1: So it's such a great point West because I was
23:11
Speaker 1: gonna make the same point. I'm not sure which European
23:13
Speaker 1: spacecraft dropped this rock off on its way by just
23:17
Speaker 1: a full you know, the Americans with the rovers. That
23:20
Speaker 1: would be a good trick, right, yeah. Hey, let's bring
23:23
Speaker 1: up a rock from Earth and drop it right in
23:25
Speaker 1: front of the American rovers and then see what they do.
23:28
Speaker 1: Let's see if they start talking about jellybellies or something.
23:31
Speaker 4: This is one of those rocks that you know, we
23:33
Speaker 4: pounded up and put in people's you know driveway. You know,
23:35
Speaker 4: it's a little bed where we're trying to know. It
23:37
Speaker 4: looks like one of those, but you know, like maybe
23:40
Speaker 4: a bigger version of it.
23:41
Speaker 1: So it has texturing that looks like the rock that
23:45
Speaker 1: we refer to as nice. Yeah, it does look like that,
23:48
Speaker 1: which is a metamorphic rock. And that's the weird part
23:51
Speaker 1: because everything on the surface of Mars is basically some
23:55
Speaker 1: sort of sandstone or clay or variety of rocks like this,
24:00
Speaker 1: and so for this rock to be seen there, and now,
24:03
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, what they really think happened is this
24:06
Speaker 1: rock was displaced by some process on Mars, either an
24:12
Speaker 1: impact or volcanic activity or something else or just erosion
24:17
Speaker 1: exposed a rock layer that was uplifted, and this rock
24:21
Speaker 1: fell to this location from a different place. Some kind
24:25
Speaker 1: of transport occurred to put this rock here. So it's
24:29
Speaker 1: definitely odd looking compared to the rest of the rocks.
24:34
Speaker 1: Geologists just by i have said, well, this thing looks
24:38
Speaker 1: like it could either be an igneous or metamorphic rock,
24:41
Speaker 1: but definitely not the kinds of rocks that we see
24:43
Speaker 1: on the surface of Mars. So therefore, the early speculation
24:47
Speaker 1: is this thing got transported, it got uplifted, which means
24:51
Speaker 1: it was buried down deep below some process volcanic impact
24:55
Speaker 1: otherwise lifted this thing up and then it got placed
25:00
Speaker 1: out onto the surface. And now the Perseverance Rover has
25:04
Speaker 1: discovered this thing in the Jezuro Crater, which, by the way,
25:06
Speaker 1: the jez Ro Crater is an impact crater. So the impact,
25:10
Speaker 1: you know, the ancient impact, could have displaced this rock
25:12
Speaker 1: or at least made it exposed to the effects of
25:18
Speaker 1: wind erosion on Mars and then so it dropped off
25:20
Speaker 1: later down to the spot. But it does not look
25:23
Speaker 1: like anything else in the vicinity, and it does not
25:27
Speaker 1: look like any rock that has ever been seen on
25:29
Speaker 1: Mars before. So that really does make it very, very unusual.
25:34
Speaker 1: You asked about the size. It's about twenty centimeters across
25:38
Speaker 1: eight or nine inches something on that order, and so
25:41
Speaker 1: it's it's not a giant boulder. It's it's just a rock.
25:45
Speaker 1: But it's so stark and unusual in its appearance compared
25:49
Speaker 1: to the rest of the surface that they bothered to
25:52
Speaker 1: go ahead and give it a nickname. And the nickname
25:55
Speaker 1: that the scientists for Perseverance Rover gave to this rock
25:58
Speaker 1: is Freya Castle. Now they have I'm sure they have
26:02
Speaker 1: reasons why they call it Frea Castle. It's Freya Castle.
26:05
Speaker 1: So now the rock nicknamed Freya Castle is one of
26:09
Speaker 1: those rocks that is really interesting and the Perseverance rover
26:14
Speaker 1: team may figure out ways to study it later. Unfortunately,
26:17
Speaker 1: the way this works is the rover takes pictures and
26:21
Speaker 1: then it drives away. So before the scientists back on
26:25
Speaker 1: Earth could even see this rock and go wait, this
26:27
Speaker 1: is really weird. Maybe we should get some more pictures,
26:31
Speaker 1: the Perseverance are over already packed up and drove away.
26:34
Speaker 1: And that's just the nature of the way the observing
26:37
Speaker 1: programs go on Mars. They you know, the rover's not
26:40
Speaker 1: in that spot for long. It's trying to make its
26:42
Speaker 1: way up to the rim of Jezuro Crater. It's now
26:45
Speaker 1: up to that rim. This rock is on the inside
26:48
Speaker 1: of the rim, so it's kind of examining a new
26:50
Speaker 1: location within the Jezuro Crater. But because they're trying to
26:53
Speaker 1: stay on schedule, they go ahead and move the Mars
26:55
Speaker 1: rover off, so it's no longer sitting there, so we
26:58
Speaker 1: can't say, hey, can we get another picture of this?
27:01
Speaker 1: But maybe they'll change plans, or maybe they'll send some
27:04
Speaker 1: other mission to examine this general vicinity to see if
27:08
Speaker 1: they find more of these rocks, because this rock is
27:11
Speaker 1: unusual enough that it could tell us new information about
27:16
Speaker 1: the history of Mars, the planet.
27:20
Speaker 4: Let's talk about, uh, the largest jet ever seen coming
27:25
Speaker 4: out of a black hole. This thing is twenty three
27:28
Speaker 4: million light years long. Twenty three million light years is
27:32
Speaker 4: how long ago the New York Jets won a Super
27:34
Speaker 4: Bowl last So.
27:38
Speaker 3: Yes, spoken like a giant spoken like a Giants fan?
27:41
Speaker 1: Or what the curse of nameath?
27:43
Speaker 3: What is that?
27:43
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is?
27:45
Speaker 3: Uh? So this is kind of cool. So and there
27:47
Speaker 3: were two or both?
27:48
Speaker 4: Like are they the like number one and number two
27:50
Speaker 4: as far as the record goes with two of them
27:53
Speaker 4: coming out.
27:53
Speaker 1: So here's what happens with a black hole. So this
27:57
Speaker 1: to be clear, this is a super massive black hole.
28:00
Speaker 1: Where do we find super massive black holes in the
28:03
Speaker 1: centers of galaxies? So this giant jet is shooting out
28:09
Speaker 1: of the center of a distant galaxy. It's shooting off
28:13
Speaker 1: in two directions. So really what you're seeing is two
28:15
Speaker 1: halves of the same jet.
28:17
Speaker 3: Ok.
28:19
Speaker 1: Why is there a jet? Because well, that super massive
28:21
Speaker 1: black hole. As it's collapsing into a black hole, it
28:24
Speaker 1: can actually freeze a very intense magnetic field into its structure.
28:30
Speaker 1: So black holes do have very strong magnetic fields. So
28:35
Speaker 1: as charged particles like say, oh, electrons or protons or
28:41
Speaker 1: alpha particles or those kinds of things, subatomic particles with charge,
28:46
Speaker 1: as they approach that super intense magnetic field, that magnetic
28:50
Speaker 1: field acts like a particle accelerator here on Earth, and
28:54
Speaker 1: they get bound up by those very intense magnetic field lines.
28:59
Speaker 1: Those charge particles begin to circle around at a high
29:01
Speaker 1: rate of speed and then get shot off into space.
29:07
Speaker 1: And so that's what forms these jets. Think of it
29:10
Speaker 1: as two ultra massive particle accelerators shooting in different directions.
29:15
Speaker 1: It's all from the same black hole, same magnetic field,
29:18
Speaker 1: so we really consider them the same jet. And so this,
29:22
Speaker 1: this giant set of jets stretches for twenty three million
29:26
Speaker 1: light years. Just to give you an example of how
29:28
Speaker 1: big that is that jet structure, you could line up
29:31
Speaker 1: the entire Milky Way Galaxy along that jet one hundred
29:36
Speaker 1: and forty times. So take our whole not planet, not
29:40
Speaker 1: solar system, our whole darn galaxy one hundred billion suns
29:47
Speaker 1: in the Milky Way, and you can line it up
29:49
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty times end to end along those
29:52
Speaker 1: jets as they shoot off into intergalactic space. So this
29:56
Speaker 1: is a structure that's so large that it's really kind
30:00
Speaker 1: of hard to fathom just how big it is over
30:05
Speaker 1: twenty million light years end to end for example. Another example,
30:10
Speaker 1: the Andromeda Galaxy is only two and a half million
30:13
Speaker 1: light years from Earth, so this is ten times further
30:18
Speaker 1: than the nearest giant spiral galaxy to the Milky Way,
30:20
Speaker 1: which is Andromeda. So that's another way to go, oh
30:23
Speaker 1: my gosh, this thing. This structure is vast. So not
30:27
Speaker 1: only is it the largest, it's the most energetic of
30:31
Speaker 1: supermassive black hole jets ever discovered. So it doesn't mean
30:35
Speaker 1: it's the largest one out there, it just means it's
30:38
Speaker 1: the largest one we've ever seen.
30:43
Speaker 4: You're right, not being able to fathom that. And when
30:46
Speaker 4: you start thinking about, as you said, one hundred and
30:48
Speaker 4: forty Milky Way galaxies lined up end to end to end, Yeah,
30:52
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a certain point you get to where
30:54
Speaker 4: you just can't even like in your head comprehend any
30:58
Speaker 4: of these figures, because I don't think we can fully
31:01
Speaker 4: grasp how big the galaxy is anyway, right, Just the
31:04
Speaker 4: average person can't. Someone who has studied it, maybe they
31:08
Speaker 4: can try to comprehend it, but it's almost like, I mean,
31:12
Speaker 4: when you start talking about distances even to the Moon,
31:17
Speaker 4: it's you can kind of talk about it in numbers,
31:19
Speaker 4: but you can't fully comprehend what that distance is unless
31:23
Speaker 4: you've studied it for a really long time, I guess,
31:25
Speaker 4: so trying to put all that into numbers twenty three
31:29
Speaker 4: million light years long, I don't think it's something that
31:32
Speaker 4: I can even start to comprehend.
31:35
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a lecture that I give
31:38
Speaker 1: in my introductory astronomy classes, and maybe we should turn
31:42
Speaker 1: a version of that lecture into one of our podcasts
31:44
Speaker 1: because it would just be fun. But we talk about
31:47
Speaker 1: the difference between a million of something, a billion of something,
31:55
Speaker 1: and a trillion of something, and i'd try to resent
32:00
Speaker 1: that in a manner that really separates those numbers, because
32:04
Speaker 1: it's true that in our daily experience, we don't really
32:07
Speaker 1: come across a million of anything that we think about like, well, okay,
32:13
Speaker 1: that's only a million, it's not a billion. Like those
32:16
Speaker 1: numbers are basically synonymous to us. You know, it's a
32:20
Speaker 1: million or a trillion or a billion or something like that.
32:22
Speaker 1: They all rhyme. I don't know what's our national debt
32:24
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know it's a million or a
32:25
Speaker 1: billion or a trillion.
32:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, when we get all this rain coming through,
32:29
Speaker 4: it'll be a million, a trillion, a billion.
32:31
Speaker 3: Ants or whatever in my house that'll start working their
32:35
Speaker 3: way in, going, uh, it's wet out there. Can we
32:37
Speaker 3: crash here for a couple of days.
32:40
Speaker 1: That is such a Georgia thing. They start building those
32:42
Speaker 1: above ground ant hills and then you know they're coming
32:46
Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah, exactly so. So but the point is, though,
32:49
Speaker 1: there's a vast difference between a million, a billion, and
32:54
Speaker 1: a trillion of anything, right, we just don't have a
32:57
Speaker 1: good daily grasp on those words, like you just mentioned,
33:01
Speaker 1: because we just we just don't deal in those numbers, right,
33:04
Speaker 1: So they're just vast beyond comparison. So so yeah, I'm
33:08
Speaker 1: gonna slate that as one of our future podcasts and
33:11
Speaker 1: we'll talk about space distances a little bit because that
33:14
Speaker 1: would be kind of a fun thing to do. But
33:17
Speaker 1: trust me, twenty three million light years, which you've got
33:21
Speaker 1: to consider that a light year. One light year is
33:24
Speaker 1: six trillion miles, not million, not billion, trillion miles and
33:32
Speaker 1: unimaginable number. Right, So you take one of those light years,
33:38
Speaker 1: which is six trillion miles, and then you multiply that
33:42
Speaker 1: times twenty three million, which is just head exploding distances,
33:50
Speaker 1: and that's how long this thing is, right, So it's
33:54
Speaker 1: truly a gigantic number. And the fact that the Milky
34:01
Speaker 1: Way itself, as you said, is a larger object than
34:04
Speaker 1: we can really imagine. But you can line up one
34:06
Speaker 1: hundred and forty of those, in other words, on this
34:08
Speaker 1: image that you and I are looking at. And by
34:10
Speaker 1: the way, ladies and gentlemen, you can visit space dot
34:12
Speaker 1: com see this image for yourself. Check it out. A
34:15
Speaker 1: great story on space dot com about this giant black
34:18
Speaker 1: hole set of jets. The Milky Way wouldn't even appear
34:22
Speaker 1: as a speck, or it would appear only as a
34:25
Speaker 1: speck on this image, right, you would see our whole
34:28
Speaker 1: galaxy is just one of the little bumps along these
34:30
Speaker 1: two massive jets as they shoot away from this galaxy.
34:33
Speaker 1: Let me tell you one last thing about this. This
34:36
Speaker 1: is also really far away, which is probably a good
34:38
Speaker 1: thing because of the energy coming from the supermassive black hole.
34:41
Speaker 1: It's seven point fill seven point five billion light years away.
34:47
Speaker 1: So yeah, again, take that six trillion miles multiply times
34:50
Speaker 1: seven point five billion, and that's how far away. This
34:53
Speaker 1: thing is important is you're also looking back in time,
34:58
Speaker 1: So you're looking back in time to see that light
35:00
Speaker 1: seven and a half billion light years or seven and
35:03
Speaker 1: a half billion years rather, which is half the age
35:06
Speaker 1: of the universe itself. So this is an ancient object
35:11
Speaker 1: and here's what was going on. So now realize you're
35:14
Speaker 1: looking back into the history of the universe, halfway back
35:18
Speaker 1: in its lifetime, the whole universe's lifetime that was a
35:22
Speaker 1: little bit more of a wild West kind of place,
35:25
Speaker 1: and giant supermassive black holes like this one at that
35:28
Speaker 1: time in history were feeding. They were eating up material
35:33
Speaker 1: at a high rate in those ancient galaxies, and that's
35:37
Speaker 1: what you're seeing. You're seeing an ancient black hole gobbling
35:41
Speaker 1: up material, swallowing it in. But some of that material,
35:45
Speaker 1: like crumbs on the beard, gets stuck in these jets
35:48
Speaker 1: and trapped by the magnetic fields and don't actually fall
35:50
Speaker 1: into the event horizon of the supermassive black hole, and
35:53
Speaker 1: they're shot out in these jets instead, kind of like
35:57
Speaker 1: Cookie Monster dropping crumbs back in the old Sesame Street episodes. Anyway,
36:01
Speaker 1: So these are the crumbs and they're being shot off
36:04
Speaker 1: by these magnetic fields at an intense rate of speed
36:07
Speaker 1: in a gigantic structure. And once you know what you're seeing,
36:12
Speaker 1: this is really an incredible sight. It's an amazing thing
36:16
Speaker 1: for us to observe, and it's a really cool object
36:19
Speaker 1: to think about. By the way, the team of astronomers
36:22
Speaker 1: were at Hardcastle of the University of Hertfordshire and the
36:27
Speaker 1: interviews and the quotes that we have gone over are
36:29
Speaker 1: from space dot com.
36:31
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