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Hawkeye talk with Tom Kakert, Mike Palm from Circa, Brad Rose Joins · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2 welcome back. It's Miller and Condon on the
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eye with Sports Radio Network. I'm Trent Condon, joined today
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by Brad Rose, the former AD at Valley.
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All over the place. Where were you before Valley?
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I was at Fairfield, Fairfield AD and for that I coached at
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Ankeny. I was a head baseball coach at
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Ankeny and then before that at Tumwa.
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Had some success with the Hawks. Yeah, yeah, we had some really
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good, good players. I got a little something for you
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a little later from one of your former players.
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We're, we're going to get into that a little bit later on.
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And I think I've made Rosie a little bit nervous.
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Right now, though, it's time to talk Hawkeyes as we do each and
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every Friday with Tom Caker from hawkeyereport.com as Tom joins
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us once again. Tom, as always, appreciate your
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time over there in the Quad Cities and back home.
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Now for the Hawkeyes. 2 games, 2 huge games with Purdue and
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Nebraska on tap after the disappointment of the loss
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against Maryland. First of all, how are you doing
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over there, Tom? Doing well and you're right,
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these next two we're going to be important I think for Iowa
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regardless of what happened on Wednesday.
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But I think it adds even more importance because now that NCAA
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resume, which I didn't think had any, you know, the the resume
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was interesting because they were winning the games that were
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supposed to win. Pretty much.
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They didn't have any warts on it.
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Now it's got a wart, now it's got a ward, and it doesn't have
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a signature. What I would call a signature
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win on it either. There's some nice wins, there's
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some decent wins. There's a couple of quad ones in
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there. But yeah, that big one, that one
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that's really going to resonate. And maybe the biggest
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opportunity is going to be at senior Day there at the end of
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the season as they got Michigan come to town for that one in
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March, but plenty of basketball before that.
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Let's go back first to Wednesday night against Maryland at the
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weird 5:00 central tip off time for that one.
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Didn't matter. They were on the East close.
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Their their college guys are going to be fine obviously at
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any time of day. But Maryland, a team that
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doesn't shoot it really well, they were just driving by Iowa.
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It's the defensive performance, maybe that gave me more pause.
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I know they missed their what, last 12-3 pointers?
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Yes, that's concerning in its own right.
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But it was what happened on the defensive end.
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To me that says, oh boy, are we running into some issues here?
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Because overall though, they had a six game-winning streak after
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the Indiana game. I could argue in all those
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games, and certainly for the first half against Washington, I
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wouldn't play their best basketball even during the win
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streak. Yeah, they have.
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I think the the way I phrased it after the game was they've been
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playing with fire and they finally got burned because
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they've just been, it's been this growing reliance from the
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other guys on the team. And I asked Ben McCollum about
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this today too. It just seems like everybody's
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kind of just like, well, then it'll just bail us out.
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Let's get the ball to Bennett. He'll just bail us out.
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And and Bennett was doing that. I mean, you see his scoring
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spiking up and and these 30 plus point games, but that was just
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not sustainable. And Ben McCollum said he
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addressed it to the team that, yeah, they are been deferring it
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too much and that those guys are talented on offense too and they
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can score. And it's not like Bennett is is
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going all ball hog either. He doesn't, you know, he'd
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rather pass the ball than shoot it, I think half the time.
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And but he just does what he has to do to win and they've but
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it's but it's a growing concern that defensively he's the first
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thing he mentioned about the game on Wednesday was the
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straight line drives right to the rim.
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I mean, the Mills kid was just going there all the time and and
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Coit was going there whenever he really needed to as well.
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So and that's been something that has been occurring more
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often, even against other teams, against Washington and against
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the, you know, you saw Zoom Diallo do that the first half
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quite a bit and then they kind of locked him up a little bit
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more in the second-half. But that's something they're
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going to have to address. More balanced scoring is going
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to have to be addressed. And, and you've got the Purdue
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team that's, you know, coming in this week and then Nebraska
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early next week. So the two huge games coming up.
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No doubt a Purdue team that survived after nearly blowing
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The Big Lead against Nebraska in overtime, getting the win in
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that one. And maybe the most concerning
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part, Yeah, they're big. That that's always a concern
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against this Iowa team that isn't exactly big.
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But I don't think Fletcher Lawyer is going to go 4 of 17
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from three. Again.
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That's my concern is he goes in there and suddenly, well, he
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might make 4, but it's only going to take 7 as opposed to
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17. This team could shoot it from
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the outside. They got bigs inside.
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I know Iowa played well in that first match up.
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It still just doesn't feel like a very good match up though for
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the Hawkeyes. It isn't when you look back at
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that, that that box score. Iowa was 12 of 25 from three in
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that game, you know, basically shooting 50%.
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Kale Combs had who has not been playing well at 43 point field
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goals in that game at a career high 16 points in that contest.
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The thing that really concerned you though is Iowa is not a
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great rebounding team this year. I just haven't been.
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And you look at what what Purdue did at Nebraska, they had over
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50 rebounds, including twenty on the offense event.
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And if they're and the offensive boards has been an issue for
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Iowa in terms of getting those defensive rebounds, they just
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have not done that consistently. And they've allowed some
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offensive rebounds. So that has got to be a concern
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because, you know, Oscar Clough and Trick Hoffman ran par.
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Those guys were all just kind of playing volleyball with the ball
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and the on the glass in that, particularly in the second-half
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against Nebraska. Because Nebraska, you know, even
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though they were down 22 points, they probably should have won
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that game. But they, you know, Purdue
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missed a bunch of free throws and, and, and kept allowing
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offensive rebounds. Yeah, that was kind of
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heartbreaking. They came all the way back and
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then they just. Slip on the floor.
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Thomas Brad Rose I just, you know, as I watch those games, I
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watched, you know, USC or Minnesota be able to isolate a
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kid that hadn't scored very much and ends up scoring.
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I can't remember which game that was.
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The kid scored about 27 on us. My question is more about how do
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we get Banks and and and Cook and some of the other kids?
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How do we get them back into the offensive flow?
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I feel like our Iowa's defense is always going to travel.
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I think they'll do things even though they're undersized a
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little bit to to make things hard for other teams.
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But how do we get those other guys involved offensively?
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Yeah, you were the guy you were referencing Kim Woods.
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Yeah, that's. The the 30 plus points in that
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game and 27 of them I think or 28 of them in the second-half.
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You know you've he went, as Trent would determine, he went
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all Charles Bugs. My my favorite reference, yes he
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went Charles Bugs on the Hawkeyes.
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No hey Gatewood. Since then he's actually played
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really well for USC. I watched him a couple of
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different times because he came in with 26 points all year long.
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Had 33 against Iowa. He has been playing well.
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So apparently you just need to play Iowa and that ignites the
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switch for players. Well, I hate, I don't mean to
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change my own question, but my concern there was they were able
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to isolate. They were and.
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And that was sort of like, oh, like, oh moment like, hey.
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Yeah, and Ben and Ben will not play zone, just just not going
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to do it. So it's just not something he's
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going to do. So they're kind of, you know,
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limited and they're going to play man, but they're going to
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try and help with gaps and they're they're not against
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Dublin. So the but you're right, the
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offensive side of things for Iowa too, is, you know, some of
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those guys are just not scoring well.
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Fogharis had those three games in a row or he was in double
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figures. By the way, Iowa 11 and O this
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year and Alvaro Fogarist is in double figures.
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And the last two games he had six points against Northwestern.
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Not a great game, but it's OK. And then at Maryland, he scored
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as many as Trent did in the game, which is 0.
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So I that's, you know, he's he's got to be one of their top three
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scores of the game, in my opinion.
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Banks has been, I think pretty good.
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A Cam is sort of came in, you know, sort of like a garbage
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man. But right now Combs is not
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giving him a lot offensively coops hitting probably 1/3 a
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game. But you know, you'd like to see
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a little bit more from Cooper Koch.
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And then is that Howard's really struggled.
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The guy that really kind of helped him, gave him a little
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bit of spark was Brendan Housen Talked to him today a little bit
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and he came in and hit a couple threes, but then he missed,
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missed his last five. And that I thought, I thought on
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Wednesday they just settled for too many 3 pointers late game
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between Bennett and House. And because Maryland had some
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significant foul trouble and they should have really tried to
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get in the lane, get to the get to the hoop, and they didn't do
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that and kind of just stumbled for the threes and they weren't
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falling. I guess the good news is they're
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not broken. Yeah, it didn't seem like they
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were in rhythm either. So they got no offensive boards
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off of those shots either, because it wasn't.
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It seemed out of rhythm a little bit.
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You mentioned Koch, he had a couple of good looks too.
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Those are just looks he has to have.
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He's he's too good of a shooter to miss that many open looks
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like he did in that one. It's frustrating, no doubt.
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But I think when they began this group of games, this seven game,
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if you would have told any Hawkeye fan, hey, you're going
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to go 6 and one, I think every single one of them would have
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said yes, absolutely, sign me up for that.
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After the three-game losing streak, it was just the fashion.
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Win six in a row, then lose to Maryland and then that leaves
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people kicking themselves. Now we talked about Maryland,
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it's Nebraska after that. Then you got to go to Wisconsin.
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Then you got Ohio State coming in, who's a tournament team,
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still got Michigan and another Nebraska match up here.
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Closing stretch, incredibly difficult.
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Are they ready for it? Ben McCullum going through it
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for the first time in the Big 10.
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Are you confident that they're going to have their head above
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water? And I'm not going to have to
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find another term like I came up with a free and fade.
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The Fran, the the Fran fade. Here's the good news is that
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four of those games are at home. So we kind of think that they'll
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they will get that one and tell you, you know, everybody's kind
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of saying, well, they'll win at Penn State.
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Penn State's kind of sneaky went out to Washington the other
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night and won. And they have kind of the the
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type of players that have given Iowa trouble, those guards that
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can get to the rim. And so they're going to have to
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that's not and and you know, it's a that that's a Saturday,
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11 AM Central sleepy. There'd be nobody there.
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You know, that's a sleepy spot for for Iowa.
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So they've got to take care of business at home.
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And probably honestly, they probably got to get two of the
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four at home. And then, you know, when at Penn
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State, then you you've got three wins out of this.
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But you know, if you would have told me before the seat, I think
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I picked Iowa to be 21 and 10 for the year.
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So there are a couple three wins away from that right now.
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And if they can get three more wins and I I think they've met
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expectations this year, but this is this is a huge game.
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These next two, I think are really, really important for the
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psyche of the team and for the psyche of the Iowa fan base
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that's seen the chair pulled out from underneath them more than
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once are. You are you saying the Hawkeye
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fan base is fickle? Come on, Tom.
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I don't know that they would be fickle, but they're they're
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easily disappointed. That's true.
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What do you enjoy most about Coach McCollum?
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What do you enjoy most about him?
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His honesty, he's just really, he's almost too honest sometimes
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where he's just he's really just, you know, just so honest
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about what's going on. You know, I brought up the thing
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about the about the players kind of deferring.
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He's like, yeah, you're right, you know, And to talk to him
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about it, you know, it's like you're not used to that from
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coaches or they kind of talk around things and don't give you
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real introspective answers. And and he is really good about
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that and he's really accommodating and really
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welcoming. It's not kind of standoffish
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where, you know, Fran, towards the end, he could he could run
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hot and cold. I mean, he you know, he's like
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his personality was just there's some nights you'd talk to him
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and get yes, no, and that was it.
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And then there's other nights he'd be really expansive in his
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answers. Ben's always expansive in his
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answers, then open to just about any question too.
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Very thoughtful and that's yeah, my conversations with the
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McCullum. It's it's been different
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certainly and and enjoy it. But yeah, there are times maybe
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it's just a little bit too much there.
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I definitely get that perspective.
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I got one question for you on Iowa woman's basketball.
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Brads got one for you on Iowa wrestling as we wrap up here,
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Tom, a needed win for the eyeball women.
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You beat Washington, you give up 25 in the first quarter.
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It's like here they go again. They can't play any defense.
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He lose McCabe and now he can't play deep.
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But they buckle down in the final 3/4, give up just 31
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combined points over those three.
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They get the victory. Now.
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They got this weird 11 AM tip off against Nebraska.
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Monday. They go to Purdue after that.
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The road slate is an overly difficult Michigan still on
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there. Where are you at right now with
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this team? A much needed victory.
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Is it? Is it enough to kind of cure
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their ills, if you will? Yeah, I think it will.
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It's going to help him. I think moving Strumlow into the
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starting lineup was was a really smart move from from Jan just
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because Taylor had started before and she seems pretty
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comfortable in that role. And it kind of takes some of
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that pressure off of Addie deal. There's just there's already so
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much pressure on her because everybody thinks, well, she's a
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five star, she's got to be great and she's got to do all this and
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do that. And it's it's not that easy.
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And she was, I thought, just really getting comfortable in
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that role, coming off the bench and starting to thrive when
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Taylor McCabe goes down. So I know they tried to like
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press the hot hand a little bit that daddy was coming along, but
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that was probably not the direction.
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But now you've got Tremolo out there.
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I think she's playing well. But this Presidents Day game at
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11 AM is going to be interesting.
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Nebraska is pretty good and I always got some challenging
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games ahead, but we'll, we'll see.
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I feel better about them. I think the big thing for them,
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they've got to keep winning enough games to be able to host
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for the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament.
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That's got to be their goal. Win 3 out of five, probably in
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good shape. Don't take a big loss of the Big
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10 tournament and that's enough. Yeah, yeah, I think so.
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I think that would be enough because they've got some good
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wins. They do.
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They've got they've got a good, good resume of of victories and
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they they hit a little bump in the road.
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But you know, I don't know that any of those.
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I know people pointed out Minnesota, but Minnesota's net
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is really good and they're just that's a that's a team that's
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that's good. I think the margin was the big
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surprise for the the loss of the golf.
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My Tom, my question about wrestling is, you know, I have a
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lot of wrestling friends, a lot of a lot of coaches I know and
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certainly the state of Iowa's with Iowa and Iowa State
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wrestling. What's the panic level?
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What's the panic level like over in Iowa City with I mean, we've
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always been, I mean, since I was a kid, Iowa wrestling's been
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right there, you know what I mean?
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So how's the feelings over there?
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Remember those the movie War Games where they had the DEFCON
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levels and everything and it was like DEFCON 5 was pretty calm,
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but when it got to one, it was like we're all going to die
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here. It's probably about DEFCON 2
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right now for Iowa Wrestling Boy.
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They're just, there's a sense of frustration that I haven't seen
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and, and I've seen some kind of grumpy wrestling fans in the
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past, but it is, it's really bad right now to be honest.
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This is not the performance is there or anything like that.
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They're just they're doing the best they can.
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But the Iowa wrestling has had a place in college wrestling.
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That's, you know where it's where Penn State is now.
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That's where I will wrestle. Iowa wrestling fans believe that
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Iowa should be, and they're right to feel that way because
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of what Dan Gable was able to accomplish.
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But you know, they are really struggling right now because
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they don't. I think the thing that
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frustrates Iowa wrestling fans the most is that the team does
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not. They're not aggressive.
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You know, they're not getting takedowns.
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I mean, the second-half of the Penn State, I mean they didn't
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have one takedown. I think though Ohio State won
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the second-half, they didn't have any takedowns or maybe 1
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takedown. It's that you that's not Gabe
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Dan Gable wrestling. That's not what I think.
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Iowa fans would feel better if they were.
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Those guys were going out and going down swinging, but they
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just haven't done that. Yeah, the Writer Block Kid has
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been a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, but I can't tell you that
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I've seen a lot of aggressiveness out of the other
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kids. You're right.
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It's different and not what Hawkeye wrestling fans are used
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to. Our buddy Hawkeye, Andy, he'll
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be there in attendance tonight. We'll see if he could actually
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see a couple of takedowns. And Tanner, he's got things
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covered over at Hawkeye Report for you, Tom, him, Kyle Huseman,
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you guys got a lot going on. Baseball season underway today.
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First pitch against K State. He got softball.
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That is happening and a new soccer coach over there as well.
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Yeah, new soccer coach seems like a really good hire for best
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guess, too. I mean, you know, comes over
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from Dean Ward, comes over from Xavier, where he's won 31 games
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in the last two years. I think the big question we've
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got to find out is what's his Premier League team?
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He's a Brit, so we've got to find out what is, what is, what
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scarf he's got and that'll decide where, you know, how much
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we like him, you know? No doubt, Tom Caker,
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hawkeyereport.com joining us as he does Fridays on Miller and
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Condon. Tom, thank you for your time.
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All right. Thanks guys.
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Yes, Tom Caker, hawkeyereport.com, part of On
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Three Media. Brad Rose with me today for the
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Hawkeyes. I I heard it a couple of times.
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We. So you're a Hawkeye fan?
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Yes, I, I probably leaked that out.
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I, my grandfather worked at Iowa State, Betsy Hall in the botany
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department. But I and I grew up when I was
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younger around there. Then we moved when I was a kid
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down to southeast Iowa and Hayden Frye and the Hawkeyes.
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And I live next door to an Iowa wrestler, you know, so Dan Glenn
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was my neighbor. And so quickly we became Hawkeye
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fans. Hawkeyes, Hawkeyes.
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Hawkeyes. Yes, same thing.
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And when we grew up, and I'm a little bit younger than you, but
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I talk about this all the time, the Hawkeye Basketball Network
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statewide, I watched it in KIMT up in Mason City.
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It didn't matter if you're in Eastern Iowa and it was on KWWL
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or Sioux City or here in Des Moines, you got every single
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Iowa basketball game. And the way that that just
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gripped certainly the faint of my generation was incredible.
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You saw kind of as it was formulating and turning into
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that. Kids today, they have no idea
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the importance of what Iowa basketball meant.
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Yeah, No idea how. And we just were glued to it.
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You knew what you know, you knew in fifth grade, the Hawks are on
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tomorrow night, you know, and even even Iowa Wrestling, Iowa
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Public Television or whatever, whoever was broadcasting, we
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jump on and watch it, you know, But at Iowa Basketball Network,
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Lou Olson, and then, you know, George and Doctor Tom.
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I mean it Just it it. One just picked up after the
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other one just kept improving on it.
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Time after time after time. Well, Brad Rose is with us.
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We got a little bit more coming up with Rose, but coming up
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next, we're going to be joined by Mike Palm, his standard
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Friday hit, as well as we hit our Friday guests from Circa
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Sports. We're going to talk a little bit
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about what's happening in the world of wagering next.
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Mike Palm joins us, a also native Iowan that's next on
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Miller and Condon, the Iowa Sports Radio Network. 1:30 on a
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Friday, it's Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Trent Solo here for the next
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couple of weeks. But I got great people hanging
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out with me today. Brad Rose, the athletic director
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recently retired over at West Des Moines Valley.
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We're going to talk with Brad a little bit more, dig into his
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life and some other high school questions that have popped up
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about the future of high school athletics.
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Couple of ones we're going to get to with Brad.
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But right now it's time to talk gambling in the sports world
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with Mike Palm from Circa Sports, the biggest sports book
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in the world, as he joins us each and every Friday on Miller
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and Cotton. Mr. Palm is always good to talk
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with you. What's happening out in Vegas?
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A quiet weekend I'm going to anticipate after last week's
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Super Bowl. Mike, you got us there.
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You. Go Yeah.
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Can you hear me? Yep, got you now.
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Yeah, yeah. You don't have the full NBA
21:42
slate All Star weekend. Of course, the NHL is shut down
21:45
for the Olympics over there in Italy.
21:48
No MMA event this weekend. I think the Pebble Beach will
21:52
see an increase right with with really competing just against
21:56
college basketball this week. And it's not a bad Saturday.
21:59
But yeah, it's a strange weekend for sports.
22:02
Certainly is the All Star game. I mean, I have to guess you guys
22:06
have no right no kind of handle on something like that.
22:09
Does does the game get anything? Do people bet on who's going to
22:12
win the three-point contest, the dunk contest?
22:15
What are we talking about here when it comes to these these
22:17
events that have certainly dissipated throughout the years
22:20
in terms of just the sports, less what we've seen sports
22:23
wise? You know when you go back even
22:25
not that many years and you had decent handle on the Pro Bowl
22:28
and the NBA All Star game and now it's basically 0 on both
22:32
this new four man, I don't want to take the time to learn it.
22:36
The only thing really that gets any action now is a three-point
22:38
contest. Nobody cares about.
22:41
You don't have the superstars in the dunk contest anymore.
22:44
Nobody really cares about it. But the three-point contest, at
22:47
least you get some of the top long distance shooters competing
22:50
in it. But even then, you know, we're
22:51
going to, we'll write, you know, 1520 thousand total on the
22:54
event. Gotcha.
22:55
A little bit different than what you saw last week with the Super
22:58
Bowl and the right that you guys were doing on that and and the
23:00
$1,000,000 wagers that were happening in Circa for our radio
23:04
audience. I know we talked earlier this
23:05
week on the TV side for our show on MC22.
23:08
Fill us in a little bit the details which for you guys at
23:11
Circa felt like the Seahawks winning.
23:13
Maybe you guys were in a difficult position, but that two
23:16
week period ended up working out pretty well for you guys at
23:19
Circa Sports. Yeah, we were in a tough spot
23:21
because of the Seahawks futures from August from that one
23:24
gentleman and you know, having 50,000 on the CX at 75 to one.
23:31
But he himself, right after the championship Sunday, that 1.1
23:36
million on the Patriots plus 188, and then we did not have
23:40
any other $1,000,000 bets until Sunday.
23:44
A gentleman that's made several large wages with us before
23:47
wanting to bet the Seahawks called a Sunday morning one to
23:49
bet a million money line. OK, so he came down, but by the
23:53
time he got here like around 1:00, the price had moved two
23:56
cents. It was 2 cents heavier than one
23:59
when he talked on the phone and he said, well, I want to make it
24:02
at that price, so move it, move it back two cents.
24:04
And we said, of course, no, you get the bet what the number is
24:07
right now. So he went to The MGM and bet
24:09
it. So we didn't take that.
24:12
You know, we didn't lose that on the Seahawks.
24:14
And then about an hour before the game, one of our largest NFL
24:19
betters said, hey, I'm really long on Seahawks futures, not
24:22
with us. He said, I would like to get a
24:24
million on the Patriots money line.
24:26
And so he came down with about 30 before the game betted.
24:28
So what looked like was going to be, you know, 1,000,000, 1/2 or
24:32
so loser for us to the to the Seahawks actually ended up we
24:36
win just a little less than a million to the result of the
24:38
game. Props, no props that hurt us.
24:41
You know, MVP was fine. The first touchdown score was
24:44
fine as long as there was a touchdown, so yeah.
24:48
And the under was good for us, so it worked out fantastically.
24:52
As you can imagine, football season comes to a close and
24:54
we're always looking about content for you guys at Circa.
24:57
I'm sure you're already starting the planning stages of next
25:00
football season and with it with it the great contest that you
25:02
have there with Circa Survivor and Circa Millions.
25:06
Anything that you can share or is it still in the preliminary
25:09
stages? You're just kind of planning
25:11
what the contests are going to look like.
25:13
You did something different this year with Grand DC MO and the
25:16
thousand $100,000 entry that was available and you guys certainly
25:20
outpaced what a lot of people thought you were going to get
25:22
for that one. Anything as we look to the
25:24
contest for 2026. Well, you know, we've already
25:28
started discussing guarantees. What will they be?
25:31
Do we still need them? Interestingly enough, with this
25:34
Australia game, if they're going to play it on a Wednesday to
25:37
open the year and still have a Thursday, which they will right,
25:41
and still and a Friday, if they're going to have a
25:44
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday of opening week, maybe that's its
25:47
own week itself. And.
25:48
Survive. With the with the ability, let's
25:53
say and this is another debate point, we in our text the last
25:56
24 hours, if you lose on that week, can you get back in before
25:59
the Sunday game, which effectively would be week 11B
26:02
then, right? Yes, I think it's very
26:05
interesting. So we have to wait for the
26:07
schedule to come out, but we're already thinking about that.
26:10
That is an interesting 1. So what have you guys heard?
26:12
I know you have some ends with the NFL and scheduling.
26:16
Is it a better than 5050 chance that we're going to get the
26:19
season opening in Australia on that Wednesday?
26:21
Is that what you guys are hearing?
26:23
Yeah. Well, I think it's around the
26:24
75% chance that's what's going to happen from our context.
26:28
So once we once we heard that, we said, let's let's be creative
26:32
with this. I love that that is certainly
26:35
going to do well. And for somebody like me, I, I
26:38
put my entry in every year and it's wasted money and it goes
26:40
down the drain and and I lose it.
26:42
We laugh about it here on the radio every single year.
26:44
But for so many people that I'm sure think that they have a real
26:48
chance. How many more people are going
26:50
to be sticking around Vegas and are going to be staying in Las
26:52
Vegas knowing if I get knocked out Wednesday, Thursday or
26:55
Friday, I can buy back in. You guys have to anticipate if
26:59
that's the case in what you guys do, you're going to have a lot
27:01
more people, which is already a huge week with week one of the
27:04
NFL. They're going to be sticking
27:05
around through the weekend. You know, this might become, I
27:08
used to say, you know, we say March madness #1, Super Bowl #2
27:12
and then Wild Card weekend and opening weekend, you know, 3 and
27:15
3A. I I think opening weekend is
27:18
going to become clearly the third biggest weekend in Las
27:20
Vegas every year. Going to be huge, no doubt about
27:22
it. One other thing, we're seeing
27:24
the continued talk about what the future of the College
27:27
Football Playoff is going to look like.
27:29
You're fighting Irish got an even better in starting next
27:32
season and able to get in if they're in the top 12 to the
27:35
playoff. But the Big 10 has continued to
27:37
try to push a 2014 bracket. They wanted to have the ability
27:41
to have play in games and get more TV inventory that went
27:44
along with it. Is it just inevitable we're
27:47
going to get to 16 and then likely 24?
27:51
Should we just do it now, get to the point, the end point that we
27:53
think we're going to get to with 24 teams or you push back?
27:57
Let's just keep it how it is. How do you look at it?
27:58
The College Football Playoff? Are we going to get to 32?
28:02
I mean, are we going to go to 64?
28:05
How soon? You're going to have to, you're
28:06
going to have to start stopping what you're going to have to
28:09
start. I saw the Big 10 starts the
28:12
second week of December. I mean, you're going to get to
28:13
the point where they're going to be starting the playoff right
28:15
after Thanksgiving. I don't know, I think football
28:19
is such a different animal. The Cinderella doesn't really
28:22
have a chance. I mean, me and Miami was a
28:24
Tennessee, but not really right. I mean, so this teams like the
28:28
James Madison and all this they did over 60 minutes.
28:31
They're not winning these games. So I'm I'm comfortable.
28:36
I'm comfortable at 16. I'm comfortable at 12.
28:39
I just, I thought 6 wasn't enough.
28:44
Once we got to 12, I'm fine either way.
28:47
There's always going to be the teams that have the arguments
28:49
that they were left out. It was Notre Dame this year.
28:52
I didn't think they had an argument against Miami.
28:53
I thought it was against Alabama.
28:55
But So what? Somebody's in and somebody's
28:57
out. This did what you know the Big
28:59
10 and FCC are going to want 7 guaranteed spots and this and
29:02
that. I, I, I just think if you can't
29:04
finish in the top 4 in your conference, should you really be
29:07
in the playoff? It's an argument that's a good
29:10
one, no doubt, and definitely there's that kind of push back
29:14
for it as well. And how many games do you want
29:16
college teams playing? The NFL is already juggling
29:19
with, boy, the 17th game, all the extra games, you know, are
29:22
we getting too many injuries? Teams are, you know, losing guys
29:26
every year, and I mean college. I mean, how many games do you
29:28
want to play? I like your idea of staying
29:30
staying where it's at or 16th the most.
29:32
And, and Mike, you remember when Northern Iowa made their run all
29:35
the way to the national championship game?
29:37
I remember talking with Mark Farley afterwards and he brought
29:40
up just how dead that team was. I mean, they were, they don't
29:43
have the scholarships obviously at that level that they do at
29:45
the FBS level. But he said we got to that end
29:48
of the season and we were we're held together by Scotch tape.
29:51
I mean, it was just these guys have played a lot of football
29:53
and that was of the year. I think it was just a 16 team
29:55
playoff back then in one AA when they made it to the championship
29:59
game. You are putting a lot on these
30:00
guys just physically. And did we learn that again this
30:03
year in the NFLI mean with the injuries that we've seen now
30:06
they want to go to an 18 game schedule.
30:08
How do you keep these guys healthy?
30:09
Play in this kind of game, Mike? I would also trend play every
30:13
game except the national championship game on campus at
30:16
the highest seated. I think it's ridiculous.
30:19
You go to go to the Orange Bowl and Oregon had 200 people there.
30:23
And what does this do for the sport to see empty stadiums keep
30:26
these games as long as the campuses can support this, I
30:29
would keep these games on campus.
30:31
I mean, I see, you know, the Winter Classic for the NHL.
30:33
They finally got it out of Texas and Florida.
30:36
Next year they hit a home run Rice Eccles Stadium.
30:38
They can't announce the date yet because they're not sure of the
30:41
format and maybe Utah's in and maybe they're hosting games.
30:44
I would make that change. I think that's the biggest
30:46
thing. They need to do everything on
30:47
campus until the final game. That's a great idea.
30:50
You have singing exactly what I've been talking about.
30:52
Also, Mike, we are in simpatico certainly on that one.
30:56
Circus Sports, you can download the app here in the state of
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Circus Sports Iowa app. Mike, as always, appreciate the
31:09
time. We'll talk to you again soon.
31:11
Thanks gentlemen. Have a great weekend.
31:12
You too. That is Mike Palm.
31:14
He is the VP of operations at Circa Sports.
31:17
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Beautiful resort there. The stadium swim experience is
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absolutely amazing. And March Madness right around
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looking to head out there for the NCAA tournament.
31:37
Well, Mr. Rose, we're talking about the College Football
31:39
Playoff. Then the creep continues.
31:42
Went from 4 then to 12. We're going to get to 24 I think
31:47
eventually at some point. You brought up a very pertinent
31:50
point, though, and I'm sure you even see it at the high school
31:54
level. Think of the Valley teams that
31:56
have got to the championships and one state championships and
31:59
even these high school kids that play a nine game regular season
32:02
by the time they get to the Dome for the semifinals in the
32:04
championship, that's a lot of football on those kids too.
32:07
At least we moved away from back when we had the playoff games
32:10
that opened on Wednesday. Wednesday.
32:11
Monday. Wednesday, Monday, Friday and
32:14
playing what turned out to be what, three games in 11 days or
32:17
something like that. That's.
32:17
The best possible competition, right?
32:19
Going to Fridays was a good move.
32:21
Yes. And pushing that thing back just
32:23
a little bit more, it's a lot. Football's a lot.
32:26
It is so physically demanding and the offensive line, the
32:30
Patriots, well, they couldn't black Yeah, because they're left
32:32
tackle as an ACL tear, right? I mean, we we have these kind of
32:36
things that are happening and the injuries of football, it's a
32:38
different animal. But the problem there doesn't
32:41
seem like there's an easy. Solution.
32:42
Well, it's just like, you know, Richard Sherman when he used to
32:44
argue, you know, you want us to play on Thursday, then you want
32:47
us to, you know, four days rest and play.
32:49
And I think they really have to take a look at that.
32:51
And I would be, I know I love the NFL, I love watching games
32:57
and I'm part of a fantasy Football League, the demon
33:00
fantasy Football League. So we, we, we love the games and
33:03
we love doing that stuff. But I do think you have to think
33:06
about safety and longevity of these players.
33:08
And even at the high school level, I've, I've said, why
33:10
don't we just play eight games? Then everybody makes the
33:12
playoffs and playoff game is week 9.
33:15
And then if you look at it, it, it's, it's not that much harder.
33:17
You can still seed it. But when you get it, I know
33:20
there's teams that are O18 and probably shouldn't be in the
33:22
playoffs, but we every other sport, you make it, every
33:25
baseball team gets to go, every basketball team gets to score,
33:27
every wrestler gets a chance. You know, every soccer team and
33:32
they all they all get to play. So but football is the only one
33:34
we have to have a selection. And I know it sounds crazy.
33:37
You don't want to the number one team playing the 64th best team
33:41
probably in high school sports, but you could do some type of
33:44
play in. And anyway, I think in college
33:48
it it could be that way too. And even in the pros, you know.
33:50
Because high school football, currently 5A comprises 40 teams.
33:54
Is that right? I can't answer that I should
33:57
know that, but I I think it's if it's 40 or 4840 or 48.
34:01
But there be buys then built into that and you do that and if
34:04
you win your district or win your conference, however the
34:07
setup is, then you get a buy in the first round, you get a
34:09
little bit of rest and then you move from there.
34:11
I think like college, no ones against the best four teams.
34:15
Maybe there's some question on who should get to buy.
34:17
But the teams that are out like Notre Dame, they would have
34:21
loved to play in game. Oh, absolutely.
34:22
You know what I mean? And and they they think they
34:24
were as good as Miami, which in all fairness, they were pretty
34:27
close, right? So they're thinking themselves,
34:29
why couldn't we made a run? You know, and I mean, there's
34:33
all of us Iowa and Iowa State fans.
34:35
We have our own scenarios of how those two teams could have got
34:37
in, you know? You made a run, You never know,
34:40
right? Just get in there and that's the
34:41
path that everybody's trying to take.
34:43
We're due for one final time out.
34:44
We'll come back on the other side, put a cap on things, got a
34:47
few other things and found out Rosie's a fantasy player.
34:50
We'll see how long he's been playing fantasy football and
34:53
he's got a championships on the mantle.
34:54
We continue. It's Miller and Condon, welcome
34:56
back one final time. It's Miller and Condon on the
34:59
Iowa Sports Radio Network, joined by Brad Rose, former
35:03
athletic director at West Des Moines Valley.
35:05
Baseball coach at Ankeny and one of your Ankeny Hawks said it was
35:08
a big hit back there in the early 2000s.
35:10
You guys played a practice? Yeah, we did.
35:13
I can't believe you're cranking that.
35:15
I think you like that one yes. I want to find you here.
35:18
It was a tweet. I got to see find the name of
35:21
your former player that well, he's he's getting up there now
35:24
just a little bit. Here it is as we go back
35:26
through, scroll through Nathan Pick.
35:28
Oh, yeah. Nathan Pick.
35:29
Yeah. Said that was a banger back in
35:31
2000, 2001, 2002 season for you. Love that.
35:37
Well, as we wrap things up, Brad Rose with us here today, You've
35:41
seen a lot of great athletes that have come through the halls
35:43
of Valley High School, through the CIML, through the state of
35:47
Iowa throughout the year. So during your time, I posed it
35:50
to you a little bit earlier. Who's the top of the list?
35:52
Who's the name? When you think of Oh yeah,
35:54
there's no doubt this was the best athlete that I've seen.
35:56
Who are those names that jumped to top of mind?
35:59
Well, first of all, I'm missing. No matter what I say, I'm going
36:02
to miss some people. You know what I mean?
36:03
And you're. Going to be kicking yourself
36:04
tonight. There's people from all over the
36:06
league. It's, it's first of all, I
36:07
don't, I don't think the, the, the fan base out there really
36:10
understands if you spend 17 years going to CIML events and
36:15
state tournament advances, many, you know, 40 state championships
36:20
and probably 18 second place finishes that we had at Valley,
36:24
The number of athletes that just the, the, the talent is
36:27
incredible. I mean, Eli Reardon always is
36:29
one of my favourites. And I said Maddie Kubik earlier,
36:33
just through leadership, at the same time Maddie Kubik was
36:35
playing volleyball, Hannah Locken was playing as well and
36:38
she went to Baylor and became an All American as well in
36:40
volleyball. So you had two high school
36:42
Americans on the same volleyball team and yet we got second
36:45
because Centennial was so good. They had three Division One
36:48
players. You know, someone like Zoe Young
36:51
who went to Maryland and LED us to two state basketball titles
36:53
under Joe Segrist in in basketball.
36:56
You know, some of my favorites like Trev Urak and Zay Robinson
37:00
and those guys that played on the three peat team with BJ
37:03
Windhorse's teams. It's really hard.
37:06
So those I mean, Rocky Lombardi. Oh yeah, probably.
37:09
I mean, you know, he he lost on a very controversial in in state
37:14
wrestling. People forget he was a great,
37:16
great wrestler and his brother won it later.
37:19
But that when Rocky shook hands to the official and, you know,
37:22
in his own mind as a true wrestler would, you know, he
37:25
felt like he should have gotten two more takedowns and it
37:26
shouldn't have been close. And you know, that that's just a
37:29
mark of a champion, you know what I mean?
37:31
And but right now, my my one of my favorite kids is Trevion
37:34
Carson, who's up in North Dakota State playing basketball.
37:37
He was a former Valley kid and just really is is really shined
37:42
and people probably never heard of him.
37:43
They forget he led us to our won our first state title there.
37:46
And and then there's kids like, you know, someone like it.
37:50
There's this name is going to shock everybody, but like a a
37:52
Pat Gray, a kid from Waukee that played three or four sports.
37:56
I always enjoyed competing against him.
37:58
I thought he was a great leader. And but you know, we've you
38:01
know, all the guys that you're used to hearing about that.
38:04
I think Alex Honnold stands out too, as well, and the kids I
38:07
coached in in in youth teams growing up.
38:10
Trevor Baumler's down at TCU pitching.
38:12
He had a great year last year as a freshman.
38:14
He's going to be a sophomore there.
38:15
Cooper Nicholson is a junior out at North Carolina.
38:18
You know those kinds of kids. You know, Brady Blake's going
38:23
to, he's in junior college now. He's going to be at Creighton
38:25
next year. Those those kids coaching
38:27
baseball, being able to be a dad and still be able to do my job
38:30
and coach on my son's team. Kid like George Nahas, who I
38:34
know, you know, is a great kid too.
38:35
All those kids are are are a lot of fun.
38:38
I I would be I don't even know if I can list I the one I
38:41
remember one of the great stories I remember is Jake
38:44
Campos was walking down the hall at valley.
38:46
He's going to like a like a advanced calculus class.
38:50
You know, he's 68270 and I going to go to Iowa State and there's
38:53
this little kid about he's about 100 lbs walking next to him.
38:56
I, I, I saw him both said I don't this kid was in 7th grade.
39:00
He was coming up to take the same class Jake was taking.
39:03
That sounds, you know, and he's what, a better bodyguard than to
39:06
have Jake Campos walking down the hall with you?
39:07
Nobody's going to be messing with you, no doubt.
39:10
Rosie, this has been a lot of fun.
39:11
Thanks for hanging out with me today.
39:12
A lot of great stories and I have a feeling we can do a lot
39:15
more of this, certainly throughout the the coming weeks.
39:17
Whenever Ken's gone, we'll invite you to come back and
39:20
we'll tell some more stories. I'd love to do it.
39:22
A shout out to my fantasy football.
39:23
Demon Fantasy Football League 28 years strong in fantasy football
39:28
and I know they're all listening today, so I really enjoyed.