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Occult Expert: "9/11 Was A Ritual Sacrifice” · Man in America Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: This week marks twenty five years since the September eleven attacks. Flight 11, flight one seventy five, the 93rd Floor, the 77th Floor. Two towers, a 110 stories each split into three sections. Now, coincidentally, those numbers all happen to be numbers that the occultist Alastair Crowley considered very, very sacred, and he said that decades before those towers were ever built. Is it a coincidence?
• 0:42
  Perhaps. Most likely. But there's a lot more to that story which we'll be digging into today. Now, on a different story, you wanna hear something else that's completely insane. In 1962, a Hollywood movie showed almost step by step how to turn an ordinary man into a killer with no memory of it.
• 1:01
  President Kennedy personally approved that film and one year later, he was assassinated. The movie then vanished for years, and the man who advised on it turns up connected to the JFK assassination, the Manson murders, and the shooting of Robert f Kennedy, three of the darkest events in American history, all shadowed by the same man. So is this all just some strange series of coincidences, or is there a real pattern connecting mind control, hidden numbers, and the assassinations, and maybe even sacrifices and attacks that have shaped this country. Tonight, we're gonna trace that pattern all the way back to the towers and all the way to today. My guest is William Ramsey.
• 1:44
  He's a researcher and author who's spent years digging into mind control programs, hidden occult symbolism, and the real people connected to some of the darkest events in American history. His books include Prophet of Evil, which looks at the occultist Alistair Crowley and the September eleven attacks, and the global death cult. Now here's why this hit close to home for me. We keep seeing the same pattern. Somebody with no clear motives commits a terrible act seems strangely disconnected and is often killed before we ever get the real answers.
• 2:15
  We saw it with Charlie Kirk with the attempt on president Trump and Butler and all the way back to Sirhan Sirhan. So if you ever felt like something doesn't add up, this conversation gives you a framework for why. Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. Now before we start, make sure you hit that like button and the share button and the subscribe button.
• 2:37
  It really helps get this information out to more people. And also, I'll tell you that we'll be talking about a lot of things in this discussion, one of those being nine eleven and the attacks, and I don't want in any way to take away from the the fact that innocent people were killed on that day. I'm not sullying that at all. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this whole situation because, again, when you see these patterns, it's hard to turn away. And so, again, preserving the memory of the people that passed that day, we shall forever remember that day, and I have respect for that.
• 3:08
  However, that doesn't take away from the fact that we need to keep asking questions because we've been lied to over and over and over again. And the more you uncover those lies, the more you start to get into the occult symbolism, rituals, ritual sacrifices, and a whole lot more. Alright. Let's go and get into my conversation with my guest, William Ramsey. William, it's good to have you on the show today, and I'm really looking forward to digging into what really interests me is which is the more conspiratorial and the occult and the hidden hand behind things.
• 3:42
  That just so happens to be your expertise. So thank you for being here and giving us your time today.
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: Seth, thanks for having me. Glad to be here.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you. And I think as a as an easy way of introducing you, I'm just gonna pull up your website and just show some of the books that you've written. The Smiley Face Killers, the Global Death Cult, which is the order of the nine angles, you you know, Alastair Crawley, deep into that, the prophet of evil, Alastair Crawley, Alastair Crawley, nine eleven, the new world order. Interesting, interesting information to get into, and I'm sure we'll be kind of touching some of these topics. But I I think that we're for today's show, we're gonna start at least with focusing on just the concept of the Manchurian candidate.
• 4:23
  Right? We've had a lot of high profile assassinations or assassination attempts, whether it's Charlie Kirk, the multiple attempts on Donald Trump, lots of others, lots of other presidents that have been you know, have assassination attempts on them, JFK, etcetera. And I've also you know, in my journey, especially on the show, I've interviewed people that came out of the MK Ultra programs, you know, one in particular, JR Sweet, that was trained as an MK Ultra sleeper assassin and, eventually kind of pulled himself out of that. So this is an area that's very just interesting to me, especially looking at how these assassinations and assassination attempts are used as social engineering tools and and controlling different narratives. So I guess wherever you wanna get started on this, I'm I'm I'm gonna be asking a lot of questions, but I'm looking forward to this.
• 5:13
  So I'll let you just jump in.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: I do believe this book that was written by Richard Condon, who's fell out of kind of fashion, but he was he was kind of an influential writer. He wrote The Manchurian Candidate, also Prince's Honor, which became a film, but he published this book right at the kind of apex of cold war paranoia in the fifties. It was 1958, And I think that that's a real mark about when these Manchurian candidates, the concept of a Manchurian candidate started. These strange, like, independent people who pop up, like, the intro was perfect because you're talking about how these these assassinations with these patsies or people who don't seem to have pulled off the killings change political and cultural history. And so this Manchurian Candidate in the film are very important.
• 6:03
  So the the the book kind of falls out of favor, and then the film is made and and released in late nineteen sixty two. But the history behind the the book and the film is just as fascinating as the content. For people who don't know what The Manchurian Candidate or how it's got its name, it happened, like I said, at this apex of Cold War paranoia after the Korean War. So the Korean War takes place in 1950 to 1953, and a lot of people came back from the Korean War, a lot of pilots with strange things or have seemed to have been either programmed or manipulated or thought controlled, so it was a real concern with the elite at that time, the post World War II elite in The United States, particularly intelligence and defense, about these this kind of mind control gap. And so the Manchurian candidate is really it goes back to Manchukuo, which is above Korea in the peninsula where these people were believed to be taken these American servicemen were believed to be taken into the Iron Curtain.
• 7:10
  Right? The Chinese Iron Curtain and tampered with. So that's what it is. So the concept behind the Manchurian Candidate is somebody's brought back for a political assassination to put somebody in power. And it's really the mother is the Eleanor Iselden as the character, but she is what Richard Condon said, she was based upon Livia who's this kind of notorious Roman power broker, female power broker, and Roy Cohn.
• 7:40
  So he, Condon based her character on Roy Cohn who is Trump's kind of like consigliere or something where he was Trump or there's pictures of Trump with Roy Cohn. So it's an interesting real life connection to fictional events and the book itself. So then the book comes out. JFK read the book. So, John F.
• 8:03
  Kennedy read the book. He's very close friends with Frank Sinatra, who's the lead character in the film for people who don't know. Yeah. So there's the pictures of him
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: coming What a what a creepy looking guy.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He had he did facial surgery. He was into plastic surgery. Interesting. Yeah.
• 8:21
  So there's a lot of pictures of those two together. Roy Cohn was interesting in so many ways as like a as like a fixer. He actually ended up being disbarred and dying of AIDS, but he always said, always deny everything, always fight back, and just just lie and create your own reality. And I think Trump really took those positions hard to really hard. So I think Trump got it through Roy Cohn, who's who bleeds into this fictional character of Eleanor Islan, who's played by Angela Lansbury.
• 8:53
  She's considered to be one of the great American villains in this. It really is because she's willing to turn her own son into the Manchurian candidate to get her husband, who's kind of a fuddy duddy, into power, and he's gonna pick up the mic and, you know, take charge after this bloody assassination done by her son, whose name is Raymond Shaw, played by Lawrence Harvey, who unfortunately passed away at an early age. But Frank Sinatra really was the driving force and the lead character in this in this film. He plays a guy by the name of Bennett Marco. Janet Leigh had just come away come off of Psycho, so she was a kind of a leading actress.
• 9:34
  That's the mother of Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah. The great picture right there. And in the book it's very graphic. She has a sexual relationship with her son too in the book, which is hinted at in the film.
• 9:48
  They do have kind of a kiss, but the book is much more graphic in regards to her relationship. So there's this dark theme in that. But the the film itself was greenlit by JFK at Hyannisport. So the like I was saying earlier, Sinatra's very close friends with JFK, and JFK's like, hey. You should make this movie.
• 10:13
  And so Sinatra sets up his own production company, gets the own director his own director, who's John Frankenheimer, relatively unknown at the time, a TV director for television, and assembles this thing to do it in black and white based upon the book. And there's actually interviews online you can see with Sinatra and Frankenheimer together chatting about the book. They were just trying to be as close to the book as possible. Well, the book has all these themes about mind control, NLP, post hypnotic suggestion, things over the phone that were done. Like you say, you're from you're familiar with MK Ultra.
• 10:54
  There were these programs before that, like project artichoke and Bluebird, where they would literally take subjects and see if they could do rolled post hypnotic suggestion over the phone. They're literally testing it, and it's in the paperwork that we have. There's a lot more paperwork that's come out about some of these kind of tests they were able to do on people. And so it's portrayed in the film, and actually, there is kind of an interesting occult, some occult themes like elevens and things like that in the film. And it's also there's a background in this film.
• 11:28
  One of the friends of Frank Sinatra was a known MK Ultra doctor by the name of Doctor William Joseph Bryan Jr, who later on will go through and be connected to so many cases it will blow your mind because he's a known technical consultant for this film, and it's referenced many places. There he is. Yeah. He shows up in the JFK assassination. He's friends with Melvin Belli, who is the attorney for Jack Ruby.
• 12:01
  So he's right there in that. Then he becomes the the consultant for Kasabian who was one of the Manson family. So he's literally involved in like them. He's he's he's like a dark shadow on all these major events. He's a dark shadow for the Manson event which happened in '69.
• 12:23
  You can see the newspapers of that. '68, he's believed to be the programmer of Sirhan Sirhan, and there's a lot of evidence. He was located in LA, in California of all places. So who is
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Sirhan Sirhan?
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Sirhan Sirhan is the alleged assassin of Robert f Kennedy, which happened in June 1968.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: So so William Bryan has this really interesting trajectory that includes the Manchurian candidate. You know, he'll he'll end up dying, of all places, at a mob associated hotel in Vegas, of all places, at a very young age. In '77, where a lot of people associated with a lot of the assassination of the sixties and a lot of the misdeeds of the sixties start ending up dead. People like, oh, it was some some mobsters who named, I can't remember right now, but, like, they all started once the the kind of commission started the the house committee on assassination started people and wanting to interview them, they started dying, and Brian was one of them. Died, I think, at 50, age 50 or something like that.
• 13:31
  But going back to JFK, it was approved by John F. Kedeny, it was released, it has one of the most famous sequences of all time, it's really the intro sequence that takes place where the 11 soldiers are there and the, they think that they're at some old ladies flower convention or something, but they're actually being, yeah, it's incredible, And they're they're testing them to see if they will kill on command. And so it it shows this guy who, Raymond Shaw, who's played by Lawrence Harvey here, killed two people on command and shoot them. And then they have start having bad memories about it. You know, this is gonna ruin the the movie for people.
• 14:14
  But it's really one of the the more clever sequences in film, in American film history, and that's doctor Yen Lo, and he actually quotes somebody's gone through the quotes, he actually quotes real papers, real psychological papers about mind control in the book and film. Like, it's really incredible. So, like, some of the stuff that he states in his his opening sequence are real. It's, really something else.
• 14:45
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• 16:02
  So again, that's goldwithseth.com. We see it over and over again that these topics, these very secret secret topics are revealed to us, oftentimes through Hollywood, through the music industry. You know, Eyes Wide Shut being a prime example. Manchurian Candidate, again, being a prime example. And now with your understanding of the occult and, you know, Aleister Crowley and all these different dark arts, you could say, that have a very strong hidden hand in our world, why would they go and put this on film for everyone?
• 16:40
  Right? Like, going back to Manchurian Candidate, which to me is more of a documentary than a a fiction film showing exactly how this works. Why would they make a movie showing us the process of how they create sleeper assassins, how they assassinate politicians, etcetera? Why would they do that?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: It's a great question. I think that the JFK was trying to expose some of the research that had taken place in the fifties, some of the stuff around these programs. So in addition to all of his other stuff, kind of his battles against the military industrial complex and the intelligence community, which he was really ferocious battles, which I think ended his life on 11/22/1963. He was trying to release this, and I think it's important to see the release of Manchurian Candidate in the context of Frankenheimer. These are all left wing Democrats.
• 17:38
  And the release of the seven days of May, is about a coup, a military coup, a takeover of The United States, that Kennedy himself allowed Frankenheimer onto the White House. There's actual sequences that are shot at the White House. So I think that Kennedy is is trying to expose this to the public, like, hey, we should get this done and let the the people know that this is happening. And I think it is incredible that after he died, this film almost basically gets shelved for twenty five years. Nobody sees it.
• 18:12
  It's only shown maybe once or theaters, and it's never seen. So it's literally like blood it's memory hold. That's the, like, one of the most important things about The Manchurian Candidate. One of the incredible aspects is it's such a great film, and then it's gone. It literally just kinda comes back out, and it's not until DVDs and cassette players where it started to be seen again, and now you can see it.
• 18:38
  And it's kind of gotten a resurgence in part because of some of the research I've done, but just in general because people are like wow this is really incredible because now the public knows about MK Ultra so they can see this and go oh okay I see what he's trying to tell us. I see what he's doing as well. So I do, to answer your question, I do think that there was a cultural there's always been a kind of a cultural cold war in The United States itself between people are trying to release stuff for the benefit of the public and people who are clearly trying to maintain an an informational monopoly on this information, which is what the central intelligence agency is. It's called centralized intelligence. So they had all this information, and then they never disclosed it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You think it also ties into the idea of revelation of the method, where it has to be, you know, we're gonna show you what you're what we're doing, and by you not rejecting or not fighting back again, you're basically accepting it? Because, again, looking at Eyes Wide Shut. Right? You know, there's no way I could see how JFK could have potentially influenced things to get this information put out into the public if he was really trying to expose this. But if you look at Stanley Kubik and Eyes Wide Shut, and this was, you're talking about very, very powerful figures in Hollywood and probably much higher that are allowing this.
• 19:55
  Not to mention that I've heard that the even a lot of the scenes were filmed in some of these the same places that these elites have these these events and and parties. And so how do you make sense of that?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I think maybe in part this kind of revelation. I think that they this is kind of like a wink and a nod of what Brian knew because I mean, in Condon as well. Because Brian came out of military intelligence after World War two, and he was around. He was a really brilliant guy. He had a law degree and a medical degree, and so I think that these guys were really trying to reveal what can be done with the right subject.
• 20:33
  If you go in and also Condon is trying to show how sophisticated these people are who are like doing this research. These are like postdoctoral, really brilliant guys. Esther Brooks, so these names that people may not know Esther Brooks and Ericsson, who could literally change people's character without their knowledge through induction and influence and a lot of stuff that certain people are suggestible, particularly if they've been through trauma, so you hear that term traumatic trauma based mind control. The people who've gone through a lot of trauma, whether either enforced or they had rough childhoods, they dissociate. It's a self protective thing people do And women who've been abused, they can dissociate to survive.
• 21:24
  So a lot of girls or kids or even boys too for that matter who've been abused have a tendency to dissociate. Well, that's the place that these doctors want to go into is this alternate split brain, which is why when the the this is intentional. When you see the posters from Manchurian Crane candidate, they show the queen, which is the which is the trigger card and the splits. This is a common motif in all mind control is this kind of shattered brain or shattered mind. So I think that they're trying to, like, disclose this to the public.
• 21:57
  And Eyes Wide Shut is really almost people looked at it, like, in the when it first came out as one of those important films in 1999, in addition to the Ninth Gate, The Matrix, Fight Club, all came out in 1999.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Is this the poster you're referring to?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another one it's on my Hypnotist Perspective article that I sent over, I don't know if you can bring that up on my substack, but it'll show the Queen there. It's the cover of the cover of Condon's book. But oh, so 1999. These are important. I believe Eyes Wide Shut looking through the yeah.
• 22:39
  If you just that's it right there. If you if you read through, like, I've done a lot of readings through the release of the Epstein information that was dropped just this year earlier, and these guys were involved in this Hellfire Club eyes wide shut stuff. And the Eyes Wide Shut really can be seen as a the perpetuation of a Hellfire Club through certain clubs leading up to today. So I think the Epstein Network was a Hellfire Club. Going back
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to I'm sorry. What's a Hellfire Club?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It got its name from these people at the time of the revolutionary war and actually connected to Benjamin Franklin of all people, who was said to have known to have gone to Hellfire Club. There were elites in England underneath the king who would meet at this these caves on the Thames, so it would be like going west from London, and they would just have these bacchanalia reveries with prostitutes and alcohol and all kinds of like black magic and things that were sacrilegious. And so yeah, there it is, Hellfire Caves, perfect. So that's kind of where it got its name. This is all documented stuff.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: This is creepy looking stuff.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you can see the costumes and all that, and I think that that's what was going on at Little St. James with Epstein and all those peoples. They were involved in kind of hellfire type of activities, drugs and sex and, you know, bonding themselves together through this. And I think that even what we know about the Bohemian Club is kind of like a hellfire club.
• 24:19
  There's elements of that there, which people go there and they're homosexuals and they do a lot of drinking and all this stuff. So I think Epstein is part of that progression all the way up. And I think that's what Kubrick was telling us about Eyes Wide Shut is this kind of secret society elite. Hellfire the people in the original Hellfire were all elites around the king, so it's an incredible thing. It's a when you contextualize the events of 1776 and the American Revolution, a lot of people we were up against were people in a hellfire club, the head of the exchequer.
• 24:55
  Like, these are very important things underneath the king. It's like people in front of in charge of the fiscal responsibilities of the entire British Empire, people who were in the House of Lords and House of Commons were all involved in this Hellfire Club. And so it's the same thing today because the Epstein network is in power. So going back to your kind of going full circle back to Eyes Wide Shut and Manchurian, I think that's why Manchurian Candidate, the film, was suppressed. I don't think it was people did not want this is one of those things that was memory old, like it wasn't seen for twenty five years, and it was taken down by Sinatra.
• 25:36
  One of the interesting things is after JFK was murdered, Sinatra, who's his close friend, his son gets abducted and they go through a very traumatic thing. I think his son had his finger cut off or something and Sinatra and this got connected to the mob. So something really dark happened to him and it might have spooked him, and so this was taken off by Sinatra and Little, you know, never seen. The progression of these people is really incredible because Frankenheimer direct Seven Days in May, that's almost never seen or talked about anymore. And then he became, he's friends and he's politically connected and he's close friends with Robert F Kennedy, the brother of JFK.
• 26:22
  And when Robert F Kennedy, he's trying to get the nomination for the democratic ticket in 1968, right? So Johnston goes crazy, literally goes crazy and decides he's not going to run again. He was, I think he was told not to run again. He he would he went like Macbeth level of mental illness, and as he's surrounding the entire JFK killing too. But so Robert F Kennedy gets the nominee.
• 26:46
  He comes to California. He's traveling around, but where's he staying? He's staying at John Frankenheimer's beachfront house in Malibu. So this director, who's close friends with Sinatra, so this group, it's not some kind of detached group of people outside of politics, they're right in politics, and the who want so he goes to accept the nomination, RFK does, goes to the Ambassador Hotel which is torn down. He's in Holly, he's when you when you do these junkets, you're traveling around all the time.
• 27:21
  So RFK is going to Northern Cal, going to talk to, like, an old ladies club, Cesar Chavez and all this stuff. He's coming back to Frankenheimer's. It's kind of like a salon, meaning it's like a group of thinking, you know, like, liberal progressive politicians. And on June, I think it's 06/04/1968, John Frankenheimer, wrote a book about mind control with the assistance of William Joseph Bryant drives RFK to the Ambassador Hotel and stays there. RFK, this is like famous stuff, the sequence is RFK's, I think, accepts the nomination, goes back into a pantry, and this diminutive Palestinian supposedly pulls out a gun and takes a shot at him, shows, supposedly shoots him and he gets blamed for it as this guy Sirhan Sirhan, who comes out of like the war for Israel and he's portrayed as a virulent anti Israel, he's angry about sales of weapons to Israel.
• 28:27
  There was an issue at the time about planes being sold to Israel. So he's placed, but then I think the guy's name is, the medical examiner says, but the shot that killed RFK did not come from the front of RFK, it came from somewhere behind him, about an inch behind his head. And everybody who saw Sirhan Sirhan in this kind of enclosed thing said he was never within five feet of RFK and always in front of him. And he was seen at these ranges and then people went and did research. There's really good books about Sirhan Sirhan that involved William Joseph Bryan.
• 29:09
  I could recommend authors Lisa Peace, p a s e, Tim Tate wrote one. There's a couple others that all say that Sirhan, Surhan could not have killed him, and the real subject is a guy named Thane Eugene Caesar. So r RFK's future RFK's a threat because if he gets he calls himself a revolutionary. If he gets in, he's gonna investigate his brother's death, obviously, because RFK was the attorney general at the time. But when RFK was shot I mean, excuse me, when JFK was assassinated.
• 29:45
  So what happens, Frankenheimer is lit and this is based on a book by Ed Sanders. Frankenheimer's in the ambassador hotel, and Sirhan Sirhan walks by him and brushes aside brushes them. Sirhan Sirhan is wandering around. He's having drinks. It's very strange.
• 30:01
  There's a woman with a polka dot dress who's, like, seems to be handling him or guiding him, and Frankenheimer says to a friend, was this what we shot back in 1962? Is that what he says? So he literally references Manchurian Candidate. Then Frankenheimer's career, he spirals out, leaves the country. He's so freaked out because of what happened to RFK.
• 30:24
  And I do believe if you look into Sir Hanserhan, he was tampered with. He's he is a mind controlled subject, a Manchurian candidate, a perfect subject who flips like I told earlier, who dissociates and his brain is literally shattered from growing up like ten years in a literal hellscape of fighting between Israelis and Arabs of this huge conflict. So the arc of The Manchurian Candidate is really starts there with this book and film and then leads up all the way to today. You have Chapman, John Hengli, Mangione, Ruth, Crooks, Sirhancer. The list is really long of, like, all these strange people who have been influenced of the gender and now there's this new thing of like these people who are online who get they have some secret handler online.
• 31:21
  All of a sudden they go berserk and start shooting people or go like this guy gender and I think he got in his car and traveled all the way to Buffalo, New York of all places to shoot people. Like I think he came from North Carolina or South Carolina or something like that. So I think that the Manchurian Candidate is really important for people to understand what's in that and how they can do that to this day. Oh, there's also Holmes, who was the Joker killer in Aurora, Colorado, if you remember him. Like he had a huge personality change, and so it explains a it can explain a lot of these mass shooters, like, how they their personalities get changed, and I think it's happening without their consent.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And you and you see and one thing I try to do is just look for patterns. You look as you can trace something because oftentimes an isolated event is a little more difficult to fully understand. But then if you look at the same patterns that happen across multiple events, you start to see a bigger picture emerging. And I remember short shortly after well, the Crooks or the Butler PA assassination attempt, they had all to me, was it had all the markings of a patsy of some sort of Manchurian candidate type thing. And oftentimes, what you find is that it's not necessarily the Manchurian candidate himself who executes the person or or or makes the assassination.
• 32:49
  That person just becomes the patsy. Right? Even looking at crooks in in the you know, some of the history had come out about his parents working. The home he lived in was, like, very strangely clean. He was supposedly a really poor shot when he had tried doing some shooting, in school.
• 33:06
  You have some of those things. A lot of, again, looking at Tyler Robinson with the, Charlie Kirk assassination, a lot of the same things happening. You know, strange patterns of parents involved with law enforcement or, you know, intelligence agencies or military background. You can see the same, patterns. A lot of times they're on psychiatric meds.
• 33:28
  You look into whether you're looking at Sandy Hook, you're looking at you mentioned Aurora, Colorado. Was it Fort Hood, I think? You can see there's just a lot of these indicators that would almost make the case that these are just Manchurian candidates. I mean, it's I mean, what what are your what are your thoughts?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think that there's programs and things like that. And there's been very dark actors in some of these military bases, so I'm glad that you mentioned the military bases. One of the people who was in the military was colonel Michael Aquino. Aquino.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: He's a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: high ranking yeah. One of the highest ranking kind of satanic members, but connections to Fort Huachuca, which popped up strangely in the investigation by Candace Owens. Like, that really, like, lit a flame, but he but Aquino was doing all kinds of stuff like this kind of thing that involved Manchurian Candidate kind of experiments in Huachuca, the Presidio, which is a former military base in San Francisco, also one in Nebraska, and then Fort Hood. He had connections to all those places, and he was a psychological operations person. So it makes perfect sense that he was doing this, and there's rumors that he's involved in, like, the zodiac killings and because he lived, like, literally by where one of the killings happened near the Presidio.
• 34:50
  It happened, like, two blocks away from the Presidio, and there's weird overlaps between all this stuff and these characters like Melvin Belli, who I mentioned earlier, who was friends with William Joseph Bryan, and Bailey who became one of the defense lawyers for OJ Simpson, but he was also for some reason, the defense lawyer for Patty Hearst. So you see these weird mind control connections and all this other stuff happening, but these I do believe he's Fort Hood, and we had one of these events. I think it was earlier 2025 right before Trump became president. There was Livlesberger. If you remember, he came out of a military base and then decided to drive one of the Tesla trucks to Trump Tower in Vegas and blow himself up
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Supposedly shot himself in the head and his and, yeah, you know, his truck Happened on
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the happened on the same day another guy from a military base in Texas drives to New Orleans and drives down Bourbon Street and runs over a bunch of people, whose name I can't remember right now. I remember his face. But so we've been subjected to these kind of, like, mass shooters for decades, and it really there weren't that these shooters did not exist before the Manchurian Candidate. So something I'm just I'm not saying it's because of the Manchurian Candidate. I'm saying something happened around that time.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: The timeline shifted then or something.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes. And and and Manchurian Candidate was like that exposure of like, hey. This is what we can do. We can really, you know, some of these people can do this.
• 36:32
  And, you know, you've done the research, I've had guests on too who are part of this huge system. The MK Ultra system, you probably know this, but it like was dispersed like the Manhattan Project. So there were little pieces in Canada, Upstate New York, Colgate, Cornell, New York City, Georgetown, LA, all kinds of, you UCLA. You had all these doctors and they may not have seen the overarching thing of what they were all doing, but they were all doing research and it was all being kind of stovepiped up the top to the top of Intel. Dulles and Helms were the two main guys really who were Dulles was really the guy who started MK Ultra after he did his brain warfare speech in 1953.
• 37:22
  MK Ultra was started one week later. It was all stovepipe and it was a there's massive outlays, 139 or 149 sub projects involving strange stuff like drugs and like creating your own cults and things like that. So I think that this real kind of warfare on the brain really was the 1950s and sixties, and it was brought home and implemented. And what when when I
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: started I'll mention something real quick. You mentioned warfare on the brain. I had a book ready to show you, mind war. Right? Literally, a a book, well, actually, what they say is it says, in in 1980, an obscure internal US army concept paper from psyop to mind war accidentally became public, whether it was accident or who knows.
• 38:06
  But this was written by Aquino. Right? So this is one of his I've got the book up my in my library. I mean, this is if you wanna research this stuff, mean, literally, it is mind war all about psyops, MK Ultra, mind control stuff.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Right. And it's constant mind war in all kinds of technology. He's talking about brain waves, and Helms researched all that stuff and how to do things through the phone. And one of the interesting things, Suhran Suhran, for example, is that he was in contact with somebody known as Radioman. Like, he liked this, like, back in the day, it's probably before our time, but the older version of maybe a cell phone was like a shortwave radio, like used to have radio setups, and Sirhan Sirhan would go on to this radio and talk with some rando person, and they think that that's how he was inducted, like hypnotized.
• 38:55
  So yeah, the mind war is real, but one of the things that that speech that, who was just a very sinister fellow, great book is The Devil's Chessboard by Talbot, but one of the things that he said is that he was this this mind war, this brain warfare was for individual and collective deployment. So he wasn't just talking about doing something to somebody's individual blame brain. He was trying to implement this stuff on whole societies or collective consciousness and their thinking at that level. And that's very important because I think the implementation or the deployment of some of these Manchurian candidates is supposed to have a collective impact. They call it psychic driving.
• 39:43
  I think it's collective psychic driving. So destabilization, demoralization, helplessness, a lot of these guys are implementing that, I think, intentionally.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And and now I see you're starting to kinda get into one of answers to a question that I had in terms of the overarching goal of all of this collectively. Obviously, you could say that having a sleeper assassin to use in an assassination or to have a patsy. Right? Which okay. You say, what's the role of the patsy?
• 40:18
  Well, look at Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk. You know, I don't know who killed Charlie Kirk, but what you can see, as soon as they get to a point where they establish this was the shooter, it stops the entire discussion or Thomas Crooks, right, with the Butler PA. It's even better, it seems, if the if the Patsy is killed, which, you know, we we see over and over and over again, where the Patsy is assassinated or they're, you know, killed or they commit suicide or, you know, something like that. But it just seems that, obviously, it's a very useful tool to have for, you know, kinda offing a political candidate or someone who's making too much noise. But you're talking about the psychic driving and and the overall because it's not just these isolated events of famous people being being shot.
• 41:07
  We're we're talking school shootings. A lot of the school shootings have very similar patterns within them. Other mass shootings like Aurora, Colorado, the, you know, the the shooting out in Vegas. Right? A lot of the larger you've Uvalde.
• 41:22
  Right? There's there's a handful of these that follow these similar patterns. And so the when you say psychic driving, I want you to explain psychic driving a little more, and then also talk more about what how you think these, Manchurian candidates, these assassinations, these mass shootings, how they're being used as a tool of social engineering?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a good question. So psychic driving was kind of like this idea that was Ewan Cameron was the head of the World Psychiatric Association. He was involved in these researches at McGill University, and that's what he would do. He would try to de pattern people, and, he had a long he was associated with MK Ultra.
• 42:03
  He was actually an American citizen practicing in Canada for some reason, but there's actual, like reports of him actually hanging out with Dulles in Georgetown. So he would go to Georgetown and meet with like the Georgetown set, these elites who are involved in all this mind control stuff that's only come to the surface, know, fairly recently. But he would engage in psychic driving, is drugs. He would actually apply Curare, which is a huge neurotoxin, like you could not move, like it's an incredibly potent drug and you would do that and then put ears, you know, headphones on people's ears, kind of like what happened in another Kubrick film, not Eyes Wide Shut, but Clockwork Orange, where the subject Alex de Large, I think Alex de Large, yeah, I think it's the name, he shoved in front of a film and then kept his eyes open and administered stuff and drugs where he'd get nauseous to violence. But that's kind of what Cameron so that psychic driving to try to break down the character and then bring it back up.
• 43:10
  That's what he was doing. That's what Ewan Cameron was doing, was try to take away the personality and then reimplement a new personality or a new way of thinking. And they lied to everybody, they said it wasn't possible, but if you have the right subject, I do think it's possible. I do, and I think you can do that on a collective scale. So I think that some of these things are to get people into a suggestive state.
• 43:39
  So really to make an impression on somebody is to get them into a suggestible state, and then do that. We do it to ourselves. If you go into a church, it's very quiet, and so when you're talking or praying, that's why you go in there so you can either talk or it accentuates the internal narrative. That's why you go into side quiet places, or even a even a a theater for that example.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, Yeah. I was thinking same thing when the when the lights dim and and and everything gets quiet.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: You voluntarily do that. Well, it's the same thing that they wanna do whatever. So I think they did it with COVID. This is a collective kind of hypnotism or induction and also nine eleven, which were coming up on the twenty fifth anniversary. So that psychic driving is this huge traumatic event.
• 44:26
  Nine eleven, we're being attacked, there's a bad guy Bin Laden, there's three thousand dead people, everybody's freaked out, now we got to go to war, you know, we're going to war in Iraq, or we're making we got to get this Patriot Act out, we're gonna put trillions of dollars into the defense industry, we're Dick Cheney's running the whole bit. And another very serious sinister character who is a member of Skull and Bones, like it's been confirmed, like he was brought in, he wasn't part of one of the old families like Bush, but so I think that these things are done intentionally and I think that COVID is kind of, you want to get them in fear too, so you see this kind of deployment. I do believe so, the progression of understanding that started with brain warfare speech and MK Ultra progressed up into cultural manipulation, cold war against the American people and assassinations of really some of the best. I think that I'm an admirer of JFK. I think he think he had noble aims and he was naive and dealing with like vultures and really horrible people around him in the military and in intel.
• 45:35
  But he really wanted to stop the war and that led us into a catastrophic war in Vietnam. And they always say, oh, lost 50,000 people there. A million people were murdered, a million Vietnamese, they were poisoned with Agent Orange, and there's rapes and just horrible psychological consequences of what happened there. But it led all the way up into the nineties, into the attempted assassination of Reagan to 09/11, the famous infamous speech of George Bush. These elevens are very really important to these satanists, but he gave his new world order speech eleven years to the day of nineeleven on 09/11/1990 in front of congress.
• 46:15
  Like, so this is direct tied to Crowleyism and the deepest kind of occultism imagined. So all this, that component of this psychic driving and this momentum built up from MK Ultra into nineeleven into the wars over the world, into an intentional destruction of the finances in 2007, 2008, so they could solidify their getting away with all the crimes because people were just worried about their houses and their finances. And then leading up to COVID and presently where we're at, is two nightmare wars against Iran and Russia, which really The United States are the people behind it and are the bad guys in my opinion.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's looking at so you you mentioned the the elevens. Right? Would you maybe think of, stranger things? Where the main character is 11.
• 47:06
  Right? And that's you know, if you dig into Project Montauk, and there's a lot that goes on there. Think that's also another one of these expose of exposes of what's you know, they're kind of revealing to us what the the true things that are happening in in a fiction film way. But if you're if you're talking about the kind of more ritualistic nature of this so this is something that also, again, if you're looking at the the patterns and I just did a show, you know, on Dolly Parton and, you know, looking at her death, also looking at Miley Cyrus and looking at the dates and the significance of August 25 and how, that was Miley Cyrus' who was really you know, was the goddaughter of or the great so Parton was her godmother or or kinda grand godmother. I forget the exact relationship there, but very involved with Miley Cyrus.
• 47:55
  You see that there's a very strong significance on the dates, the time between things, you know, thirteen years to the day from different events. And so, you know, you mentioned 09/11. You missed you mentioned Alistair Crowley. What is the what is the significance behind a lot of that? Right?
• 48:13
  Because, again, if you're looking at the patterns, you often find that these things happen at very specific times astrologically, very specific times in terms of seasonality, in terms of where the moon is at. But he's also looking into the the the numbers of it and the the geometria. There's just there's so much to it, but how do you make sense of all of that?
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Well, think, accrual is the key for nine eleven. I think because the Bush family is our occultists, so I think that going back to understanding Crowley who was born in 1875 and died in 1947 is really kind of the key. Understanding his religion, what he believed because he was believed in numerology, he also believed in ceremonial magic. So in ceremonial magic you have to accentuate the kind of spiritual force you're trying to accrue, you have to have all the implements in the right place and do the right thing and it's almost like that's what happened in nineeleven as all these things clicked dates, times, events, numbers and all that to kind of get the greatest power out of it. So that's what Crowley so whether he did his rituals up at Boleskin Manor or through the Golden Dawn, which was a post masonic ceremonial magical order, so what that people had already gone through masonry.
• 49:40
  So Crowley's number one number or famous number is 11 and he received a book from a discarnate entity according to him in 1904 in Egypt of all places, and in that book, which became the centerpiece of his religion he called the lema, he said the number 11 is of us and those of us like this or people who are thelemites which are people of the individual will of which like Hitler kind of was, he was, you know, he believed in triumph of the will and all the stuff. Crowley himself was human will and that was his kind of anti christian too, rabidly anti christian. So once you understand like the importance of 11, which is also an ideogram, and so you see the Twin Towers as an 11 up against the sky, I mean those buildings are way out of place there. They're just absolutely enormous and I do think they're almost like Boaz and Jatian, which they they people in the occult love because it reflects the temple, the second temple's pillars and things like that which the Masons really enjoyed too. You'll see it all over Masonry, all over the Masonic drawings.
• 50:54
  So you see the symbolic elements all leading all the way to eleventh and I think understanding Quirley is probably the foremost occultist of the, since John Dee maybe, like of the, certainly of the modern world, most influential. And then you see those kind of connections and behaviors and possibility that even Bush's wife is the illegitimate offspring of Crowley, she looks just like him, which would make perfect sense to have all this numerical kind of codes integrated into the nineeleven event, eleven seventy '7, ninety three, and '1 175, which are the plain numbers. So all this stuff is planned out, carefully done for the ultimate effect and I do believe I called nineeleven kind of a structured event because there were attempts to change things on so many patterns. So it was like planned out. Financial impact, cultural impact, political impact, all this stuff is done.
• 51:56
  And, yeah, she I mean, even the eyes are strange. And the timing is right. Like I've done shows on him and her. He was in France at the time. Her mom's name is Pauline Pierce, Pauline Robinson from a wealthy family.
• 52:11
  And they used to like to go France was actually kind of nice, the city of lights. It's not a dump like it is now. But people, like the wealthy elites, used to go to France at the apex of culture, world culture really. And so she was in France at the time, you can place him. Corle was doing rituals at that time, but he's always doing ceremonial magic which involved sexual behavior.
• 52:36
  He called it ECL and they needed servitors, so it's always these kind of bored wealthy elite people like this stuff that gives them a thrill, and I believe she was involved in that. The person he was Nelly O'Hara was one of the women and then Frank Harris was friends with Crowley. This is all like confirmed 1925 area. After Crowley got kicked out of he got kicked out of Italy, I think, by Mussolini of all people, think in '21 or 1921 or '22. Well, think understanding Crowley, that's like what the first kind of, at the first blush that title of my first book that I published in 2010, Prophet of Evil, Alastair Crowley, nineeleven and the New World Order, a lot of those concepts probably would not be seen together, which is why I put them all in the title because those ideas are, in my opinion, implicated in this event.
• 53:35
  And then the numerology doesn't lie like it's all there, 93 is really Crowley's number. 11 is kind of a magical number, it goes back to the Golden Dawn too, but 93 is Crowley's kind of gematria cabalistic representation of two supreme words in Greek for him, which is the lema and akape, will and love. And so that's a direct tie to Alistair Cromwell.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: And so one other thing okay. So looking again at the the themes here. Right? So, obviously, we talked about the specific numbers, the the dates, and not just the dates, as you highlight here on the cover of your book, the 93rd Floor. Right?
• 54:18
  Flight 11, the 77th Floor, Flight 175. 911, right, the twin towers forming the the the two numbers. So there's a lot of those, but there's also then the central theme of sacrifice. And and this is something that goes back, I mean, since, you know, the dawn of time. Right?
• 54:35
  Old testament. Right? This is a very key part of understanding the more evil driven aspects of of human culture where people get into these dark arts and everything is that sacrifice is very central, whether it's of the firstborn son, whether it is of, you know, those who are dearest to you. And so I also, you know, kinda suspect that a lot of times these deaths that happen, right, these very public assassinations are not only are used as social engineering tools to incite fear, to create new agendas, to bring about things like the Patriot Act, even, you know, Charlie Kirk. I think Charlie Kirk is one of the purposes behind that, I think, was to, in a time when I think you did have more unity arising, you know, between the left and the right in the country, that it became this great way to kind of create this massive wedge and split people far apart again.
• 55:30
  Right? And so you tell people on the right, see, look, the the liberals are trying to kill you, vice versa onto the left. You you have these things, but there's also, again, the element of sacrifice and which, you you look even in voodoo. Right? They would sacrifice a chicken or, an animal as a way to open up realms to communicate with these other dark spirits.
• 55:51
  And so do you think that that's one of the the fundamental things of even looking at nine eleven as an example? Do you think that was a, in addition to everything else it was, that it was also some sort of ritualistic sacrifice of all those people that were killed in that process?
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: 100%. That's the blood and the suffering that that accentuates the the power of the event. So I think the buildings were built to be torn down. They're 110 stories too broken into three parts, so there's an 11 again. And it's just the whole twin tower structure, the World Trade Center, was built on occult things.
• 56:31
  There was this spherical karyatid, if you remember, that big brass circle in the middle, that's what's a karyatid is a statue. It's it's a statue that holds up a temple. So they're making it like a temple, and it's featured in all these weird places too. If you see the end of the wiz by Michael Jackson, it takes place at the at the World Trade Center. So like the Wizard of Oz and Oz represents 77.
• 56:59
  Like they chose it right and there's all kinds of things. There's hints to nine eleven in the end of Fight Club as well, which like two twin towers die it go down at the very end in this film came out in 1999. And then there's the sequence, if you remember in Fight Club, the spherical karyotic rolls down and into the Starbucks, if you remember that. So they're like they're putting these visual they don't say anything about 09:11. But that's, like, the subtext of Fight Club, which is really scary.
• 57:30
  The original book by Palnok is about human sacrifice. That's what the soap represents. It represents the soap that's made out of the fat of the human sacrifices in and they don't show this in the film. They do actually show a little glimpse of it, of the IDs of the the driver's license of their victims, but it's a really dark element of Fight Club. The book is super dark.
• 57:58
  I've done an analysis on that. So I think that, to answer your question, it is part of human sacrifice was part of it. Of the nine eleven event, it was intentional. Those people intentionally killed. Certain people didn't go to work that day, certain people did.
• 58:13
  Pretty strange. But also I've written an article, you can find it online, all you have to do is type in Alastair Crowley and human sacrifice and it shows he talked about human sacrifice. It's always covered up, people always say that he was using like symbolically sacrifice. He's literally talking about child sacrifice and sacrificing children and blood on the altar. So, that's, I think that's one of the components of this event and I think that's how dark it gets in, some of these hellfire groups.
• 58:47
  For example, we famously know this burning cremation of care, right, that takes place in front of this owl with a supposed effigy that's burnt. And that's kind of how they do it, is like, that's how they initiate people into this, whether it's that lady from Serbia, what's her name, that artist who, like, depicts eating Kate Abramovich. Thank you very much for her name. But so, like, these things, they're they're hinted at. And I do believe that Epstein was a cannibal and that they were taking babies for whatever purpose.
• 59:26
  I didn't see any evidence in my thing that they were burning them to bow, but there are children missing from the Epstein network. There are kids that are bred, breeding kids, children taken away from the
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Zorro Ranch, the the breeding happening there.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is real. So just when you see this overarching thing of, like, different representations at different time, Bohemian club, Grove with the fake so called Sacrifice, Abramovich with dead bots, so things that look like body parts, and then Jerky with Epstein and missing babies, and then the human sacrifice of nine eleven. It's still extant. And which is like Tyler Durden who's an 11, right?
• 1:00:12
  So it's Tyler five and a six. It's all intentional. You see this over thing overlapping thing with these names and stuff. Fives and sixes represent the microcosm and the microcosm, that's the magician. So that's why you see a pentagram and a hexagram.
• 1:00:26
  That's also why 11 is important because it just corresponds with so many concepts in the occult. But Fight Club has become kind of like a phenomenon like Tyler Durden's this kind of antihero, and he's got all these statements. But when you really read the book, he's into human sacrifice, and he's a chaos. He's kind of like a chaos magician.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: One thing I also wanted to ask you about, if you're looking at 09:11 and you mentioned that the you you mentioned that you believe that the towers were even built for the purpose of of kind of sacrificing them. If you look at the memorial, this is I mean, this I mean, now you're getting into the black cube. You're getting into the worship of Saturn. There's a lot of stuff that kinda ties into this. But even
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: The Tesseract. Do you know what the Tesseract is?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know what it is through the, like, Marvel, you know, whatever, the the comic book stuff. But
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: It's super dark. It's like one of the darkest symbols, and it's a square within a square where you actually can get a human being, like, mental slave. It goes back to psychic driving and kind of collect the thing where you put somebody into Tesseract, you own them. And it's actually in Eyes Wide Shut, so you mentioned that earlier, it's in a sequence when Bill goes downstairs into hell, he does it behind him as a tesseract. It's incredible.
• 1:01:47
  It's incredible how much Kubert knew. But there's a slide that it's also in Rosemary's Baby, but that tesseract is a very important concept. I've done shows on it. And that's what's there. Like that's how dark, how bleak and how like almost like HP Lovecraft dark the nine eleven event twenty five years ago was.
• 1:02:08
  Sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: No. No. That's okay. That's okay. And so, I mean, gosh.
• 1:02:14
  I feel like it's I feel like that we've talked about 30 different topics, but they're all just tied together. And that's the that's the thing that's again,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: once
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: you start studying this, you take any of these things in isolation, and it's maybe it's you could say it's easy to write it off as some fringe conspiracy. But when you put it all together, you start to see that you're building this it's almost like you can you construct this layer over our society. Right? You mentioned that we're, you know, we're still being ruled by the Epstein class. I agree.
• 1:02:48
  You know, why are why aren't they all why have there been no arrests? Well, of course, they're not gonna arrest themselves. They might sacrifice one person and throw us a bone to get us to think, oh, okay. You know, great. Right?
• 1:02:58
  But what do you think is at the core of this? Is it obviously, there's lot of occultism and and black magic, but is it just that at the very center of it is just Satan himself, and these are all just the extensions of his way of evil, of his way of of ruling the society and attempting to turn every soul into darkness so he can kinda create a world of darkness? I mean, is that it's
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. You said it perfectly. I could I I don't know if I could expand on that. One of the things about Crowley is they call him a dabbler or, like, you know, he's quirky.
• 1:03:41
  Crowley dedicated his life. He wanted to become the chief of staff of the devil. Like, he literally says that. I want to get in contact with the devil. He says this discarnate entity he called Awas was the devil.
• 1:03:55
  Like, he literally says it later on. Like, so this thing is like he's receiving information from the devil. They get power. Crowley had some kind of preternational power. He he coveted it.
• 1:04:07
  The hypnotic power, the ability to influence people. Mind control is always a corollary with satanists because they want control over people. They don't wanna persuade you. They wanna put you in the tesseract, which is why you see Aquino writing mind war, which is why you see the Bushes involved in MK Ultra. I mean, you you have to see that line.
• 1:04:29
  It goes from Dulles to Helms to a couple other people. DuBush is the head of the CIA. Right? So he's part of that whole continuum or momentum that I the word that I used earlier. So I do believe it's it all comes down to very simple New Testament ideas of the devil wanting his time and yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
• 1:04:53
  I also I have a slide maybe I can bring up, don't know if I can share it, but it just goes into the kind of the dark occult concept of the Tesseract, but how it's used in input. One of the interesting things that'll blow your mind is if you remember that weird interview between Tucker Carlson and Kevin Spacey. Do you remember the Christmas trees? Do you remember that? No.
• 1:05:16
  Okay. There was a weird interview. It's it's kind of a weird thing, but, like, it was after Spacey got exposed and he, like, lost a lot of his thing. But he they're, like, sitting around, and there's, like, a pillow of Tesseract right there between Tucker Carlson, who I don't trust at all, and Kevin Spacey. But it shows up yeah.
• 1:05:36
  See that tesseract pillow right there behind Yeah. And he's in between two towers and they're laughing. I mean, this is like an inside joke. And he had that weird speech. Yeah.
• 1:05:48
  That was quick. You got that fast. That's intentional. Because that tesseract pillow is in Rosemary's Baby. One of the subtext of Rosemary's Baby that a lot of people don't know is that she was controlled from the beginning by her husband.
• 1:06:02
  So she like, that's it's never openly explained, but the reason he brings her to the Dakota, which is where Lennon was supposedly shot by Chapman, which I don't even I think Chapman was a patsy, mind control patsy, another show. But why she was brought in to become and bring she's actually symbolic of bringing in the satanic age, right, which supposedly started in '68. And then you have this horrible satanic no, I think
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: when was
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: it? I can't remember the date it was Married Baby. But there's a sequence in there. If you watch it again, she's, like, figuring out that, like, bad things are happening around her, and she goes and lies down on her couch to take a rest, and she puts her head on the tesseract pillow, just like that one, Spacey. So if you knew if you don't if you're one of the profane like me, like, I had to figure all this stuff out myself.
• 1:06:53
  But if you're one of the profane who'd never had know, I just did it through reading and understanding. You would never ever make that connection. But if you're an occultist, like a super dark occultist who had been initiated, like, that's the only way you could learn about a tesseract is if you were initiated. And there's other things that you don't know about until you're initiated too, because I've done the order of nine angles. They have secret doctrines.
• 1:07:15
  I I would never know until I probably had to, like, do some blood ritual or something. But if you know if you knew what was going on with with Rosemary's baby, when you saw her put her head on that tesseract, you'd be like, okay. The husband's totally controlling
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: her. When you see it, you see it. Yeah. Well, William, I actually have to wrap up. I've got another interview that's, actually thirty minutes earlier than I thought it was gonna be.
• 1:07:40
  So it's, only a few minutes away. But before we do hop off, I just wanna bring up your website one more time. So, well, first off, you have a Substack. And, I'll I'll make sure that we can link to this Substack in the show description so people can go read your Substack and find you there. And you've also got your website, which let me see which
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: It's williamramseyinvestigates.com. You can see most of my stuff there. I have a podcast with like 2,000 episodes. I'm reposting a lot of stuff about nineeleven, seeing we're close to the twenty fifth anniversary. Yeah.
• 1:08:15
  And I do think my book is still relevant, the Prophet of Evil book, because it's a component of the nineeleven event, this connection to Alastair Crowley. So, but yeah, I'm really proud of that hypnotist perspective article about Manchurian Candidate two, which is on my Substack. I just opened my Substack about a year ago, so I haven't been censored there, so it's kind of nice. But, thanks so much for having me on, Seth. It was great.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's it's been great speaking with you, and we'll we'll keep in touch. Yeah, I appreciate what you're doing. And, yeah, thank you so much. It's very good, very good
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: to Yeah. Meet Nice to meet you as well. Thank you.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Take care.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Alright. Cheers. You too. Bye bye.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Did you know that in the last few centuries, over half a million bells have been destroyed? There were literally bell graveyards. Now the textbooks tell us that this was to use the metal, but if you've ever gone down this rabbit hole, you discover that the sounds that these bells made had amazing healing properties. There are even claims that certain regions with lots of these bells, church bells, etcetera, were mostly untouched by the bubonic plague. Now your doctor might call you a conspiracy nut for thinking that, but even modern science recognizing the healing power of sound.
• 1:09:26
  So check out this study from the NIH. Doctors used sound therapy on chronic back pain, and they found, quote, significant reductions in pain sensation and pain related disability. But here's the best part, you don't need some fancy expensive sound equipment to find relief. So a woman named Linda Bamber Olson created something called the WaveWatch. So this little device has over 1,200 frequencies that you can use for everything from joint pain to brain fog to insomnia.
• 1:09:56
  So I've got one and I've been using it for about six months. This is it right here. And I can tell you honestly that it works. Like, if I'm feeling sickly or have some kind of coming on, it's the first thing I'll reach for. And honestly, I start feeling better within minutes.
• 1:10:11
  And that's literally my firsthand experience with it. Even my little kids love wearing it. And here's how much Linda believes in this watch. So if you get one and you don't notice any improvements, you can send it back for a full refund within thirty days. No questions asked.
• 1:10:25
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