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Autistic Teen Girl Disappears, PARENTS FEAR SEX TRAFFICKING · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. Do you have children? Because
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Speaker 1: I do, And at night when I check on them
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Speaker 1: and they go to sleep, I feel safe and secure.
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Speaker 1: I know that the windows are a locked, the doors
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Speaker 1: are a lock, the alarm is on. Everything I can
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Speaker 1: do to keep them safe in this world. Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine going into your child's room and seeing your child gone.
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Speaker 1: That is a suffering that a couple is enduring right now,
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Speaker 1: and we need your help now more than ever. This
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Speaker 1: young girl is autistic, she is bipolar. She has probably
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Speaker 1: no idea who or what she is with, and she
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Speaker 1: is in danger. Where is Keyley? I mean, I see Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Serious XM one eleven. First
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Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to this. Without her phone
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Speaker 1: on her, it's making it more difficult to track her down.
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Speaker 1: Neverthing it's going to happen to you. I try to,
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Speaker 1: you know, run this and enforce this, and reinforce this
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Speaker 1: in her mind that she she cannot trust whoever she sees.
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Speaker 1: It's a message for parents out there, keep an eye
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Speaker 1: on your children's use of social media so that they
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Speaker 1: don't become the next target. They prey upon these these kids,
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Speaker 1: and it's sickening. The Carol County Sheriff's Office says they
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Speaker 1: are reviewing Jones's social media ords and followed up with
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Speaker 1: the last persons she had contact with. They are still
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Speaker 1: actively searching for Jones and hasn't ruled out possibilities on
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Speaker 1: what may have happened leading up to her disappearance. As
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Speaker 1: you just heard, the family is so desperate for your help.
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Speaker 1: If you know anything, contact the Carroll County Sheriff's Office
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Speaker 1: as soon as possible. You were just hearing from our
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Speaker 1: friends at CBS, But now take a listen to Crystal
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Speaker 1: Booie at CBS forty six. My daughter is Kaylee Jones.
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Speaker 1: She's sixteen years old. Take a good look at Kaylee Jones.
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Speaker 1: So I was here at work and my wife called
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Speaker 1: me about seven fifteen and she said Kayley was gone.
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Speaker 1: Her parents haven't seen her for about a week. And
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Speaker 1: it's hard for Daniel and Brenda Jones to go to
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Speaker 1: sleep at night wondering where their daughter might be. And
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Speaker 1: it is just gut wrenching know when she's out there
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Speaker 1: somewhere and we don't know where she's at all the
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Speaker 1: worst thoughts come to our minds. She's our daughter and
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Speaker 1: we desperately want her back. She has a huge part
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Speaker 1: of us, and Keely is autistic, and because of that,
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Speaker 1: her parents are afraid their daughter was more vulnerable to
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Speaker 1: any online predators. My wife found that she was talking
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Speaker 1: to us like four or five different guys via Snapchat.
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Speaker 1: He took her phone away on Monday, and by Wednesday morning,
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Speaker 1: Jones was gone. Can you even imagine number one? Your
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Speaker 1: teen girl? A young teen girl talking to people she
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Speaker 1: doesn't know on Snapchat? I mean every time I say hey,
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Speaker 1: who are you talking to? Who you're on line with?
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Speaker 1: And my son will say, well, so do you go
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Speaker 1: to school with him? No? Well, how do you know
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Speaker 1: this isn't some sixty five year old guy out in
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Speaker 1: time one trying to get your picture? Okay, how do
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Speaker 1: you know that? Because you don't know that, you don't
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Speaker 1: know who you're talking to. And this teen girls not
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Speaker 1: only young in years, but she is autistic and bipolar.
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Speaker 1: She has no idea who she may have gotten into
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Speaker 1: the car with or what they planned to do with her.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now and all Star panel to make
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Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now, But special guests,
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Speaker 1: I want to go to first. Daniel and Brenda Jones.
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Speaker 1: These are Kelly's parents. I want to go first to you, Brenda,
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Speaker 1: this is Kelly's mom. Brenda, tell me when you first
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Speaker 1: realize Kelly was gone, and listen. I hope you're not
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Speaker 1: beating yourself up about taking your phone away. I just
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Speaker 1: thow Lucy's phone away last night. And it was a
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Speaker 1: war between the gods, let me tell you, because she
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Speaker 1: hadn't finished her scouting. She has a scout merit badge
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Speaker 1: thanked you and I told her. We talked about it
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Speaker 1: for three days and the deadline was eleven o'clock last
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Speaker 1: night and she didn't finish, so I took her phone.
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Speaker 1: Oh dear Lord in heaven, you would have thought that
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Speaker 1: the fabric of the earth have been torn apart. So
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Speaker 1: I hope you're not blaming yourself for taking her phone away.
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Speaker 1: Number one, But tell me when you realize Kelly was
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Speaker 1: miss Yeah, I'm only blaming myself that since I took
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Speaker 1: her phone, she's gone. But um, I go what got up?
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Speaker 1: And I started calling her from the downstairs? Kayley, Kayley's
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Speaker 1: time to get up. You got to go to work
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Speaker 1: at eight? What time was that? Seven? Seven? Am. Is
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Speaker 1: that their normal wake up time? Um at only tends
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Speaker 1: of days that she works, she usually worked at eight o'clock.
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Speaker 1: Where does she work? Dollar General? Okay? Right? The reason
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Speaker 1: I'm asking that throws a whole other wrinkle into this.
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Speaker 1: Who may have seen or met her at Dollar General?
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Speaker 1: One of my all time favorite stores, by the way,
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Speaker 1: the Dollar General there in Carrollton? Correct, yes, right down
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Speaker 1: the street. All right, so she would be normally there
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Speaker 1: at eight amub o crep. At seven, you're calling for her?
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Speaker 1: And then what happened? Well? I call her from downstairs,
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Speaker 1: no reply. I thought she was just still asleep. I'm like, Kayley,
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Speaker 1: get up, get up. No reply. So I go upstairs,
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Speaker 1: open her door, and she's not there. Of course I
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Speaker 1: walked downstairs, called nine one franick Um, I'm the nine
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Speaker 1: one one call um? Can I back you up? Can
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Speaker 1: I back you up just a second? Miss Johnes? Sure?
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Speaker 1: So you walk to her bedroom, look in there, and
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Speaker 1: she's not there. What went through your mind? Like? I
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Speaker 1: was gonna throw up? Um? Panicum, extreme panic? Where is she?
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Speaker 1: I looked in their bathroom. I'm like, she's not there.
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Speaker 1: I'm calling her, She's not there. M I go downstairs.
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Speaker 1: I call her. She's not there, and I realize she's
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Speaker 1: not there, She's gone. You're making my throat just hurt.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I swallowed a rot is just thinking
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Speaker 1: about what you're saying. When I can't find one of
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Speaker 1: the twins, I immediately think, Okay, don't get crazy. They're
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Speaker 1: probably so and so wherever, because you don't want to
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Speaker 1: think they're really gone, they're they're missing. So you see her,
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Speaker 1: she's not. You see she's not in the bedroom, she's
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Speaker 1: not in the bathroom. You go downstairs. Is anybody else
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Speaker 1: in the home. Your husband's already gone to work, nobody
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Speaker 1: else's home. Okay, you go downstairs to the phone. And
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Speaker 1: then what did I? I think I walked outside to
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Speaker 1: call the police right away, called nine one one, Okay,
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Speaker 1: then what? And then I called? Then I hung up
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Speaker 1: and called Danny and saying that she's not here. Daniel
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Speaker 1: Jones joining me. This is Keeley's dad, Daniel, How did
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Speaker 1: that moment play out with you? It was seven fifteen
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Speaker 1: when your wife called her? Correct, Yeah, roundabouts from what
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Speaker 1: I can remember. I don't really remember. And uh it
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Speaker 1: when she said she called and it was kind of weird.
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Speaker 1: She was calling at seven fifteen, but she does every
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Speaker 1: now and then. And I answered the phone, Hello, and
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Speaker 1: she's like, she just says, Katie's gone. Katie's gone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Katie's gone. I can't find her already. I've already called
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Speaker 1: out one. UM and my heart's thinking. I just I
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Speaker 1: was at work and I just got my truck and
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Speaker 1: I drove home. UM hung with her. I actually called
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Speaker 1: my boss and I told him because I start, I
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Speaker 1: get there early. But you know, most times she most
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Speaker 1: times the guys don't get there to eight o'clock, so
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Speaker 1: let me starts with like eight. But so I called
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Speaker 1: my boss and fifteen I told him. I said, I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm going home. I don't know my daughter's at
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Speaker 1: she's gone. She just di spirit. You know, I want
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Speaker 1: to go to Doctor Sherry Schwartz joining me a forensic
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Speaker 1: psychologists specializing and where law and psychology intersect and criminal behavior.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry, who has devoted her life to victim advocacy.
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Speaker 1: That feeling I don't understand what it is. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm just a j D. When you feel that what's
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Speaker 1: happening isn't real, and maybe you see it, you know it,
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Speaker 1: you hear it, but it doesn't feel real. What is that?
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Speaker 1: What mental issue is going on at a time like this, Well,
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Speaker 1: it's you trying to bring your physical state and your
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Speaker 1: psychological state into balance because you tend there tends to
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Speaker 1: be a physical reaction or the phenomenal sense of a
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Speaker 1: physical reaction. Some people describe it as it feels like
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Speaker 1: things are happening in slow motion, right, because the adrenaline
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Speaker 1: is pumping and you just are processing what is happening here,
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Speaker 1: and your brain is screaming something is not right. You know.
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Speaker 1: That's the first time I thought about it in slow
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Speaker 1: motion because I remember doctor Sherry when my fiance was murdered,
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Speaker 1: and I call my job at the library at Mercy
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Speaker 1: University where I worked, and said I was going to
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Speaker 1: be late after an exam, and they told me to
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Speaker 1: call Keith's family and I knew immediately, and they lived
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Speaker 1: out of town. I knew then something was wrong, and
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Speaker 1: I remember trying to dial the numbers. It was a
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Speaker 1: dial pay phone, and everything was going in slow motion.
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Speaker 1: It's the first time I've thought of that completely surreal
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Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace also joining you right now
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Speaker 1: to Tanya Jordan, chief parent Officer at Bark, which I love.
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Speaker 1: She's the author of Parenting in a Tech World. To Tonya,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I want you to
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Speaker 1: listen carefully to what Brenda and Daniel are about to
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Speaker 1: tell us. But wait, take a listen now to our
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Speaker 1: friend Christopher King at Fox five. Now they're terrified of
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Speaker 1: what may have happened to her. You think she's a
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Speaker 1: victor of sex trafficking. Is she in danger? Yes? Yes,
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Speaker 1: this is the message to a person or people, Kaylee,
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Speaker 1: maybe with please bring her back home. Don't hurt her,
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Speaker 1: So bring her home. She's she's got a lot of
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Speaker 1: life ahead of her still, and just let her go.
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Speaker 1: Bring her home, Let her go so we can try
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Speaker 1: to get her the help she needs and she can
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Speaker 1: hopefully live out the rest of her life again. Kaylee
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Speaker 1: Jones is sixteen. She stands about five eight She weighs
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Speaker 1: about one hundred and thirty five pounds. Called the Carrol
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Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office or nine one one if you have
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Speaker 1: any information on her whereabouts. And also, this young girl
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Speaker 1: is autistic. She could get in the car with anybody
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Speaker 1: and not realize the danger that she is in. To
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Speaker 1: the parents, Brenda and Daniel why do you say you're
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Speaker 1: afraid she's been sex trafficked? First to you, Daniel, Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know for sure, but there's you know,
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Speaker 1: number one, she's just disappeared. But some of the things
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Speaker 1: that we found on the phone, you just don't know
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Speaker 1: exactly who's out there sometimes and they could be posing
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Speaker 1: as this person or that person and you and there's
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Speaker 1: somebody different, and you know, the hardest part is is
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Speaker 1: she is a little naive about things, and she is
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Speaker 1: more trusting of people for no reason. But we don't
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Speaker 1: understand that. I don't know. I mean, there's different websites
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Speaker 1: and stuff. She was on chat rooms and it just
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Speaker 1: it just kind of leads and it just makes your
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Speaker 1: mind go that this is the possibility that somebody's letter.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not sex traffic, but maybe nothing good. Yeah, nothing good. Guys.
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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to our cut eleven. This
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Speaker 1: is Brenda describing a prior incident. Remember this team girl's
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Speaker 1: not like every other teen girl. This ten girl is autistic.
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Speaker 1: When you look at her, you don't know that she
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Speaker 1: has no idea what she's doing right now. Listen. This
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Speaker 1: is the second time she ran away in February because
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Speaker 1: we took her phone the first time, but she was
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Speaker 1: gone for like four hours and the police brought her back.
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Speaker 1: She got in a car with an older lady because
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Speaker 1: she was lost. She just took off out of the house.
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Speaker 1: We thought she was hiding in the backyard, and then
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Speaker 1: we realized she's not hiding in the backyard because we
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Speaker 1: have lots of acres back there. And next day I know,
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Speaker 1: the police brought her back and it was no more
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Speaker 1: than four hours. So there's been one other incident where
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Speaker 1: this young girl gets her phone taken away and her
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Speaker 1: only response that she can think of is not to
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Speaker 1: argue about it, not to come up with a persuasive
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Speaker 1: argument about why should she get her phone back like
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Speaker 1: my twins do. But in her mind, remember she is autistic.
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Speaker 1: This young autistic girl walks away from the house in
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Speaker 1: anger and frustration over nothing and gets into car, into
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Speaker 1: a car with a complete stranger. And thank god in Heaven,
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Speaker 1: that time it was a little old lady and she
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Speaker 1: was back home in four hours. But this time she's
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Speaker 1: not back home. Who did she get in the car
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Speaker 1: with one of these guys? She's talking to online straight
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Speaker 1: out to our friend joining us, who's chief parent officer
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Speaker 1: at BARK to Jordan to Tania, the danger is horrific.
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Speaker 1: For instance, you heard her dad say she's talking to
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Speaker 1: some guys online on Snapchat. She has no idea who
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Speaker 1: these guys are. It's absolutely devastating. My heart goes out
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Speaker 1: to you all and my prayers as well as a
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Speaker 1: mom of a thirteen year old. I'm feeling feeling this
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Speaker 1: deeply right now. Um. You know, according to Nick Nick
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Speaker 1: the National Center for Missing and Exploiting Children, online enticement
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Speaker 1: of children reports have increased ninety seven point five percent
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Speaker 1: over the past year. Okay, hold on, you said you
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Speaker 1: got to slow down for the rest of us. Titania said,
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Speaker 1: online enticement, luring, luring. I am a nervous wreck when
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Speaker 1: my children are online. I try to do everything I
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Speaker 1: can to make it safe for them, but it's really
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Speaker 1: not safe. Did you say it's skyrocketed ninety seven percent?
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Speaker 1: Ninety seven point five percent. You know, at BARK we've
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Speaker 1: escalated over a thousand online predators to law enforcement over
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Speaker 1: the years. And good, good kids make bad choices and
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Speaker 1: parents have no idea until it's too late. Now explore Snapchat.
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Speaker 1: Everybody that doesn't know about it, I've had a crash.
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Speaker 1: Course in Snapchat, you get snapped. Explain what it is, Titania. Well,
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Speaker 1: the first thing is that parents, if your children have
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Speaker 1: Snapchat on their phones, then you do not get it.
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Speaker 1: Immediately navigate the app, learn how to use it. Don't
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Speaker 1: send them into a landscape that you have not spent
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Speaker 1: time in. You can send disappearing photos. They have a
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Speaker 1: private messaging area that you would not even find if
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Speaker 1: you open their app and looked in it. There's also
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Speaker 1: the snap Maps feature that can share your child's real
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Speaker 1: time location with anyone they're connected to, unless they are
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Speaker 1: in ghost mode. It is terrifying. It is a very
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Speaker 1: very powerful communication tool. It is very addictive. Children can
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Speaker 1: buy drugs and other nefarious things on that app, again
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Speaker 1: without your knowledge. You know, the other day, Titania, my
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Speaker 1: son went long look and Jason s Winserland, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: who is Andrew? And why would someone you know be
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Speaker 1: in Switzerland? He was on snap and you could say
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Speaker 1: it was right with the school got out and I
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Speaker 1: didn't know it. But this child, one of the parents
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Speaker 1: is from Switzerland, so they went there when school got out.
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Speaker 1: You could see this one's down at Panama City Beach.
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Speaker 1: That one is in Alabama. This one is in New York,
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Speaker 1: and it's a little icon of each person and if
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Speaker 1: you hit it, you can actually see the area, like
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Speaker 1: one of the children were out on a boat somewhere
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Speaker 1: with their parents at some lake in Georgia and you
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Speaker 1: could see if you pushed it the lake. You're right,
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Speaker 1: and it goes all over the world. Hence the Andrew
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Speaker 1: is in Switzerland comment. And I had no idea you
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Speaker 1: could track a child anywhere in the world on this
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Speaker 1: Snapchat feature. Back to the parents joining me. We are
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Speaker 1: on the hunt for a teen girl, Kelly Jones, who
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Speaker 1: is autistic and by polar. Daniel and Brenda Jones, her
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Speaker 1: parents are with us. To you, Brenda, who are these people?
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Speaker 1: You have any idea who these four guys are that
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Speaker 1: are targeting your girl on Snapchat? We didn't. The police
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Speaker 1: have investigated a few of them. But the problem is
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Speaker 1: too she not only was on Snapchat when we took
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Speaker 1: her phone, and we were pretty sure that she was
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Speaker 1: able to get her lop computer, her Google computer and
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Speaker 1: get on chat rooms. Oh dear lord, haven't well what
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Speaker 1: kind of chat rooms? So a megal what it's called
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Speaker 1: a Megal, Yes, a Meagle chat room? Is this O
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Speaker 1: M I G l E O MG E L E.
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Speaker 1: I think right, right, right right, Okay, So we think
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Speaker 1: when the day that she was home Tuesday, she was
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Speaker 1: able to get on her chat room but didn't know
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Speaker 1: about a friend Tolas, and that is even worse than snapchat. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Tatania school me, I don't know about Amigel, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure I'm saying it incorrectly and everybody's gonna have a
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Speaker 1: field day with that. But what is it Tatania? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: O'megal is a chat app that children can use to
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Speaker 1: communicate with strangers. That is literally their tagline, talk to strangers.
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Speaker 1: They purport that the internet is full of cool people
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Speaker 1: and o'megal let you meet them. Not okay for kids,
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Speaker 1: I repeat, not okay for kids. Wendy Package is with me,
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags, and she is a
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Speaker 1: host of Today with Doctor Wendy kcb Q and you
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Speaker 1: can find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. So
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Speaker 1: she knows what she's talking about. Jump in, Wendy. One
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Speaker 1: of the things we worry about when we take our
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Speaker 1: young teenager's films away is they simply go to work
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Speaker 1: and borrow a phone, and to that extent they're able
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Speaker 1: to access all the same kinds of chat rooms that
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Speaker 1: they would if they had their own phone. So with
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Speaker 1: somebody like Kaylee, I would just worry that someone at
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Speaker 1: Dollar General, obviously everybody has phones there, somebody might simply
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Speaker 1: have lent their phone to have her continue to do
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Speaker 1: this and talk to whomever. I would also worry that
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Speaker 1: whoever she's with came into Dollar General and met up
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Speaker 1: with her there, and so maybe the coworkers would at
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Speaker 1: least have some knowledge of who was stopping by to
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Speaker 1: say hello. So it's almost a mixed blessing that phones
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Speaker 1: can track some of our teens if, of course we
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Speaker 1: have a little bit of a lead to go on.
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Speaker 1: But the thing is, to you, Daniel Jones, she doesn't
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Speaker 1: have her phone, does she no, ma'am, And she doesn't
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Speaker 1: really talk to strangers face to face. But I guess
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Speaker 1: the people online are not strangers, so she's not afraid
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Speaker 1: to talk to them. That is absolutely correct. She doesn't
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Speaker 1: think that they are a stranger. That's absolutely correct. As
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, one of our friends, Alicia Kozak,
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Speaker 1: has gone through this herself. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut fourteen our friends at w gmmy. When she was
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Speaker 1: only thirteen, she was groomed, lurd and abducted by an
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Speaker 1: internet predator, Scott Tyree, who kidnapped me and held me
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Speaker 1: captive in his basement dungeon, and he was going to
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Speaker 1: kill me, her disappearance setting off a massive four day
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Speaker 1: nationwide search while Tyree kept Alicia changed to the floor
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Speaker 1: at his home in Virginia. He had been live streaming
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Speaker 1: what he was doing to me online and they turned
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Speaker 1: on the computer and there I was on the screen
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Speaker 1: with my hands bound above my head, crying, bleeding, begging, bruised.
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Speaker 1: In between the beatings and the raping, he will hang
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Speaker 1: you by your arms lost. In two thousand and eight,
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Speaker 1: she testified in Congress in support of legislation intended to
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Speaker 1: prevent cyber crimes against children and the increasing amount of
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Speaker 1: photos and videos of child abuse. Support the children, Save
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Speaker 1: us from pedophiles, the pornographers, the monsters. The bill passed
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Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate. Long story short, as
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Speaker 1: you were hearing Kelly's dad saying she won't talk to
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Speaker 1: a stranger in real life, but online like Alicia Kovac,
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Speaker 1: that we were just hearing you think you know the purp.
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Speaker 1: They may pretend to be a sixteen year old boy
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Speaker 1: and based on seeing you if you have on a
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Speaker 1: T shirt that says Carrolton County High School, they go, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I have a friend at Carlton Carroll County High School.
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Speaker 1: I play soccer for so and so, and I like
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Speaker 1: I like Rita's Frozen Custarden. Do you like McDonald's and
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Next thing you know, she thinks she
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Speaker 1: knows the person when it's some sixty five year old
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Speaker 1: guy calling from god knows where trying to look for
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Speaker 1: this girl, and the next thing you know, he's right
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Speaker 1: there at the back door luring her out. They're so
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Speaker 1: many examples, you know. To you, Alexa's tersche joining me
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Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigative a reporter, Alexas, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. What can you tell me about
23:18
Speaker 1: the search for this young autistic girl right now? So,
23:23
Speaker 1: the Shares Department has said that they have had multiple leads,
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Speaker 1: They've had many, many tips that people have called in
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Speaker 1: in the community, and they have tracked all of them down,
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Speaker 1: every single one of them, but they have not had
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Speaker 1: anything that has turned up to be something that would
23:37
Speaker 1: have had contact with Keiley, So they are they're asking
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Speaker 1: the public please let us know, and that's what they've done.
23:43
Speaker 1: They've also they've searched all of her electronic devices and
23:47
Speaker 1: you know, to go through the cloud, maybe not the
23:50
Speaker 1: actual device, and trying to get in contact with everybody
23:53
Speaker 1: that she has been in contact with online. But nothing
23:56
Speaker 1: has come to fruition yet. Well, as a matter of fact,
23:59
Speaker 1: isn't it true, Brenda Jones? And you know, I'm a
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Speaker 1: huge police supporter, former prosecutor, but isn't it true? You
24:08
Speaker 1: and I have a concern by the way this case
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Speaker 1: was handled, treating her as a quote runaway, despite the
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Speaker 1: fact that she is autistic, and your fear that she
24:19
Speaker 1: may have even been taken out of the country being
24:22
Speaker 1: sex trafficked. I mean, does that matter how she got
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Speaker 1: out the winda Really, she's a teen girl autistic. Who
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Speaker 1: cares how she got out? I just want to bring
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Speaker 1: her home, Brenda, Yes, we just want to bring her home.
24:36
Speaker 1: And we don't want them thinking that she's a runaway
24:38
Speaker 1: because we really don't think. We do think that she
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Speaker 1: was groomed. We also had a psychic that told us
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Speaker 1: the same thing that she's in danger. Okay. Lisa Daddy,
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Speaker 1: a foreign police lieutenant in Haven Police Department, Senior lecturer
24:54
Speaker 1: and director for the Center for Advanced Policing. Lisa, thank
25:00
Speaker 1: you for being with us. You know that is when
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Speaker 1: a family is truly desperate, when they are seeking out
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Speaker 1: psychics to try to find their child. Can you imagine
25:10
Speaker 1: what this family is going through? And I think what
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Speaker 1: the mother, Brenda just said is very important. There's a difference,
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Speaker 1: and not that it even matters in the big scheme.
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Speaker 1: This girl is missing, she could be being killed or raped,
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Speaker 1: or taking a hundred miles away a day, further and
25:28
Speaker 1: further and further away from mom and dad. There's a
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Speaker 1: difference in someone that has been run away of their
25:36
Speaker 1: own volition, they understand what they're doing, and a child
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Speaker 1: that has been lured away. There is a difference in
25:45
Speaker 1: my mind, Lisa Daddy. Oh, and what should the police
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Speaker 1: be doing right now? For instance? Have they looked at
25:50
Speaker 1: ring cameras on people's doorbells? Have they looked at home
25:54
Speaker 1: security surveillance in the neighborhood. Have they looked at red
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Speaker 1: light surveillance in the area to see what vehicle she
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Speaker 1: may be in I mean, there's so much to be
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Speaker 1: done right now. There is one of the things that
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Speaker 1: we don't know, Nancy, is we don't know exactly what
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Speaker 1: they did. Do you know, we're living in the age
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Speaker 1: of technology as what we're talking about right now, even
26:17
Speaker 1: in regards to the apps and the messaging and the chatting, well,
26:21
Speaker 1: we have the same opportunity utilizing cameras that people have naturally,
26:27
Speaker 1: whether it's stores, it's traffic cams. Ring is infamous. But
26:32
Speaker 1: again depending on the area where we know she last
26:36
Speaker 1: was her home. You know, have they gone to all
26:39
Speaker 1: those houses and asked to see if there's any cameras
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Speaker 1: on their property, asking people you know, your postal workers,
26:49
Speaker 1: your drivers, if anybody you know, your package drivers, your FedEx,
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Speaker 1: your ups had they seen her. We have to change
26:58
Speaker 1: law enforcement, we have to change think the runaway, which
27:01
Speaker 1: I despise that term to somebody who's missing. I agree, Lisa,
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Speaker 1: Daddy somehow puts the blame on the child. And this
27:11
Speaker 1: is not just a teen girl. This is an autistic
27:14
Speaker 1: teen girl who has been through a lot in her
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Speaker 1: life and has been taken in by loving parents. As
27:23
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, take a less an hour cut seven.
27:27
Speaker 1: She was three and a half almost four. Um, but
27:31
Speaker 1: my wife, she's a development therapist and actually she was
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Speaker 1: a client to my wife from the time she was
27:39
Speaker 1: eighteen months old. Then you know, Brendan got them. Like
27:44
Speaker 1: I said, she did it there in the foster home
27:46
Speaker 1: itself and for about eight almost Ernie she had not
27:51
Speaker 1: even three when she found out that that Brenda found
27:54
Speaker 1: out that they were going to terminate right because parents
27:57
Speaker 1: couldn't get their act together forever. I dropped a little
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Speaker 1: girl and in our lap, and we honestly didn't know
28:04
Speaker 1: she had a brother. And when we found out, we said, well,
28:07
Speaker 1: we're just gonna take both of them. Two parents that
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Speaker 1: have sacrificed so much. They take in a three year
28:14
Speaker 1: old child whose parents crapped out on her with her disabilities.
28:21
Speaker 1: They find out she has a brother, they take him
28:24
Speaker 1: to and they raise both of these children. And now
28:31
Speaker 1: this has befallen them. Time stories with Nancy Grace to
28:55
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, this is Kelley's dad, and you can find
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Speaker 1: them on Facebook. Where is Kaylee Jones? Daniel, why did
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Speaker 1: you guys take her phone away? Well, I mean that's
29:06
Speaker 1: the whole thing is you try to you try to
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Speaker 1: give you I mean even with Kaylee. I mean she's sixteen,
29:13
Speaker 1: but you know, we we monitor and we try to
29:16
Speaker 1: monitor and um put you know, controls on. Anyway, Um,
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Speaker 1: we took the phone away. Uh Brenda was talking to her.
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Speaker 1: She was here in the afternoon on Monday, and uh
29:29
Speaker 1: Katy was in the in the dining room at the
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Speaker 1: table doing her um. Uh she was trying to get
29:39
Speaker 1: do the for the George of the Jacob's Law to
29:41
Speaker 1: get her her actual driver's license because we went and
29:45
Speaker 1: we moved from Florida, she had her permit. Well, then
29:48
Speaker 1: she went and took her to the DMB here in Georgia.
29:53
Speaker 1: Will then even though it's already been a year, by
29:56
Speaker 1: Florida's law, they have to ever permit anyway, Um, she
30:01
Speaker 1: had to do this Jacob's Law thing. So it was
30:03
Speaker 1: just a thirty hour course. So she's been since the
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Speaker 1: day she got back from there and knew she had
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Speaker 1: to do this. She was working very villant to you
30:11
Speaker 1: try to do that. And anyway, she was acting a
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Speaker 1: little funnier or whatever. And m Brenda was talking to
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Speaker 1: her about something, asked her about something and about her
30:20
Speaker 1: phone or something, and she's kind of acting a little funnier.
30:23
Speaker 1: So she said, well, what are you doing? Who? Who
30:25
Speaker 1: are your texting or whatever? And um, so she took
30:29
Speaker 1: the phone and started looking through it and then find
30:32
Speaker 1: all this different stuff that um parents don't want to see.
30:38
Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you, and I understand. I'm
30:41
Speaker 1: taking it. You know you you you honestly do not
30:44
Speaker 1: know how to control yourself because it's so easy to
30:48
Speaker 1: do things on these telephones. Let me ask you then,
30:50
Speaker 1: Brenda Jones. Earlier, you were hearing Daniel describe the adoption
30:56
Speaker 1: of Cayley and her brother, knowing full well about Killy's
31:01
Speaker 1: disabilities as they were talking to our friends at Sleuth. Mom,
31:05
Speaker 1: so I imagine that you handle her in a special
31:09
Speaker 1: way because she's autistic. But Brenda Jones, when you go
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Speaker 1: online or you go on her phone and you see
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Speaker 1: very disturbing content or people she's speaking with, what are
31:23
Speaker 1: they talking to her like she's a grown woman? Is
31:25
Speaker 1: it somebody talking to her about sex? What is it?
31:27
Speaker 1: I was a little worse showing different part. Somebody is
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Speaker 1: sexting her photos and vice versa. Okay, you know what,
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Speaker 1: Titania Jordan joining me, Chief Hearent Officer bart Control. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that on my daughter's phone
31:45
Speaker 1: or my son's phone. I don't want to see that,
31:48
Speaker 1: But if it's there, I want to know it's there
31:52
Speaker 1: because at that age, no one should be sexting a
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Speaker 1: little girl naked photo and they should not be luring
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Speaker 1: her to do the same thing. I mean, this teen girl,
32:05
Speaker 1: for Pete's sake, she's autistic. She doesn't understand that somebody's
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Speaker 1: taking advantage of her. But could you please tell the
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Speaker 1: Jones it ain't the first time and it won't be
32:17
Speaker 1: the last time, you know. It is so unfortunate. Every
32:20
Speaker 1: day at BARK we are sending thousands of alerts around
32:24
Speaker 1: all kinds of issues, including sexting, sex stortion, online predation.
32:30
Speaker 1: They are not alone. Is happening to children all across
32:34
Speaker 1: the country, and it's heartbreaking. We've got to continue to
32:38
Speaker 1: raise awareness and do something and protect this generation. You know,
32:40
Speaker 1: doctor Sherry Schwartz, what time unless it's another boy this age,
32:46
Speaker 1: what kind of an adult, what predator would take advantage
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Speaker 1: of a teen girl who is autistic, has no idea
32:54
Speaker 1: and he had to know from her return texts that
32:59
Speaker 1: she's not like every other team girl. Well, and that's
33:03
Speaker 1: exactly why a predator is looking for people with vulnerabilities
33:07
Speaker 1: that they can easily take advantage of who isn't going
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Speaker 1: to resist, because it makes things a whole lot easier
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Speaker 1: for them. The predator doesn't care about the victim. The
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Speaker 1: victim is not human to them. It's all about their
33:21
Speaker 1: own gratification. Alexis terrescheck. Do we have any idea whether
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Speaker 1: the costs have been pulling the ring and the red
33:28
Speaker 1: light video? Do we have any idea about home security
33:34
Speaker 1: video in the area, anything at all. They have not
33:37
Speaker 1: shared any video at all that they would have of her,
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Speaker 1: which would probably be the first they may would do
33:42
Speaker 1: because the video is so powerful. We see somebody. They
33:44
Speaker 1: haven't shown anything like that. Now, what do you know
33:47
Speaker 1: about it? Daniel and Brenda? Let me start with you,
33:49
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Have the police shared anything about what they're
33:51
Speaker 1: doing to try to find her? Well, that's the problem
33:54
Speaker 1: is where we live, as kind of a rural area,
33:57
Speaker 1: our neighborhood. They found I think I think two ring
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Speaker 1: cameras in our little area. I mean, we actually were
34:06
Speaker 1: talking several months ago about doing it as well, but
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Speaker 1: we haven't put one up yet. And now I'm kicking
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Speaker 1: myself for not doing it and not having security cameras
34:14
Speaker 1: all around the house inside outside, you know, but they've
34:18
Speaker 1: they've searched that stuff. They did, they did some other search.
34:23
Speaker 1: They tried to you know, one of the guys through Snapchat,
34:29
Speaker 1: I found the tag and they ran that and they
34:32
Speaker 1: talked to one of other guys that she was talking
34:35
Speaker 1: back and forth with more and they you know, they
34:38
Speaker 1: made contact with him. They got all the tag numbers
34:42
Speaker 1: for him and his family, you know, immediate family and
34:45
Speaker 1: a little bit of exist or you know, little distant
34:49
Speaker 1: family or whatever, aunt's uncles or whatever. And they ran
34:51
Speaker 1: through them through all the speck or whatever it's called
34:54
Speaker 1: or fleck or something. And they didn't find any of
34:57
Speaker 1: those vehicles in our area. So they ruled that one
35:02
Speaker 1: guy out. But so they were doing that stuff, and
35:04
Speaker 1: they searched homes in your neighborhood that I don't know.
35:07
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they went around, but I mean
35:09
Speaker 1: this is more like my daught because we called and
35:11
Speaker 1: you know, my daughter's missing. She ran away. That was
35:14
Speaker 1: a thing, you know for me. You know, there's so
35:19
Speaker 1: many things, but runaway doesn't like label anything. It's just
35:21
Speaker 1: like my daughter ran away. I don't know where she's at.
35:24
Speaker 1: This is reminded me of the case of Danielle van Damn,
35:27
Speaker 1: a beautiful little girl that goes missing in the night
35:29
Speaker 1: from her home in California. Massive search was actually a
35:34
Speaker 1: guy Westerville that lived not too far away from her
35:38
Speaker 1: that had taken her in the night. So you can't
35:42
Speaker 1: rule out even though it seems like it's somebody she's
35:44
Speaker 1: met a line, you can't rule out that it's someone
35:49
Speaker 1: closer at hand. Or could you tell me about this,
35:52
Speaker 1: Brenda Jones, When the one other time that she got
35:57
Speaker 1: angry when you took her phone for good reason, she
36:01
Speaker 1: got in the car with a little old lady and
36:03
Speaker 1: the police found her. I mean, how do we know
36:07
Speaker 1: she didn't just get in the car with somebody that
36:10
Speaker 1: she wasn't talking to online. I mean that could be
36:13
Speaker 1: true too, it could be. What is your gut feeling, Brenda,
36:16
Speaker 1: My gut feeling is she was she was taken through
36:22
Speaker 1: probably those chat rooms. Um, she was mad, and so
36:26
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna go with whoever, um, whoever or whatever. Um,
36:31
Speaker 1: So she just got in the car was whoever. Um.
36:35
Speaker 1: That's my feeling and my feeling that she's in danger.
36:38
Speaker 1: The danger is real. I have got a stack of
36:42
Speaker 1: paper so thick on my desk of similar transactions of
36:46
Speaker 1: young girls, young people, usually girls being lured online. They
36:51
Speaker 1: haven't no idea who they're talking to. Turns out to
36:55
Speaker 1: be somebody completely different. You heard our friend earlier, Alicia Kevitch.
37:00
Speaker 1: Take a listen hour cut sixteen our friends at WSOC.
37:04
Speaker 1: New Warrens reveal the level of abuse Charlatein endured while
37:08
Speaker 1: being held captive in Georgia for more than a year.
37:11
Speaker 1: The documents say that Michael Weislovsky can find Haley Burns
37:15
Speaker 1: in an upstairs bedroom of his Duluth home, telling her
37:18
Speaker 1: that she would be arrested if she left. Wislovsky reportedly
37:23
Speaker 1: controlled every aspect of his seventeen rold captive's life, keeping
37:27
Speaker 1: a food journal detailing how many calories she'd eaten each day,
37:32
Speaker 1: and withholding food from Haley if he thought she'd eaten
37:35
Speaker 1: too many calories the day before. Doctors at the Atlanta
37:39
Speaker 1: hospital who examined Haley after she was rescued determined she
37:43
Speaker 1: was suffering from malnutrition. According to Warrens, her parents told
37:48
Speaker 1: Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds Haleyburns disappeared
37:53
Speaker 1: from her Valentine home in May of twenty sixteen. This
37:57
Speaker 1: past weekend, the FBI responded to a tick and tracked
38:00
Speaker 1: her to a home in Georgia. Michael Wislovski is in
38:04
Speaker 1: jail under no bond on a number of state charges
38:07
Speaker 1: and our cut eighteen our friends at WISN Tommy Lee
38:11
Speaker 1: jenkins first conviction on child sex charges was in twenty eleven.
38:15
Speaker 1: Now he's charged in a new investigation. Documents show Jenkins
38:19
Speaker 1: used Facebook to communicate with someone he thought was fourteen.
38:22
Speaker 1: It was actually an undercovered deputy who asked do you
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Speaker 1: care I'm fourteen and drink Jenkins reply. According to the records,
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Speaker 1: no prosecutors claimed Jenkins initiated the topic of sex and
38:33
Speaker 1: wanted the undercover to send a picture with no shirt,
38:36
Speaker 1: no pens, asking when you get here, would you like
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Speaker 1: to have sex with me? The undercover responded yes. And
38:42
Speaker 1: the whole time, this pervert knows he's talking to a
38:47
Speaker 1: little girl, thinks he's talking to a fourteen year old girl.
38:51
Speaker 1: To doctor Sherry Schwartz, how would the autism affect Kelly's reasoning, Well,
38:59
Speaker 1: you know, there's various shades of autism. But in general,
39:03
Speaker 1: what we know is that children with autism tend to
39:07
Speaker 1: have trouble making forming close relationships in person, they misread
39:12
Speaker 1: social cues, but they are significantly more vulnerable to forming
39:17
Speaker 1: relationships with people online. We're not entirely sure why. Part
39:23
Speaker 1: of that is being a teenager. The other part of
39:26
Speaker 1: it is having a hard time making sense of danger
39:30
Speaker 1: and when something might be a danger, and so that
39:33
Speaker 1: would render her much more vulnerable. Daniel Jones, what is
39:37
Speaker 1: your message to the person that took your daughter? Well, um,
39:41
Speaker 1: we're not going to stop looking. You know, we want
39:45
Speaker 1: her home. She needs to come home. I don't even
39:50
Speaker 1: know how to begin to get there, but we're we're
39:53
Speaker 1: going to find it. It's not a joke. These people
39:58
Speaker 1: are are sick their own heads. I mean they need
40:01
Speaker 1: mental health as well. But you know they knew what
40:04
Speaker 1: they were doing, Kaylee, didn't you know? No, she she
40:08
Speaker 1: got in the car, or she she got lured away
40:10
Speaker 1: by somebody, whether online or whatever. She just somebody took
40:16
Speaker 1: advantage of her in some way, shape or form, online, offline.
40:21
Speaker 1: And I mean she's gone, that's the that's the point.
40:25
Speaker 1: She's she's she's gone, disappeared. Spanish. If you have information
40:31
Speaker 1: on the whereabouts of this young autistic girl, please dial
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Speaker 1: seven seven zero eight three zero five nine one six
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Speaker 1: repeat seven seven zero eight three zero five nine one six.
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Speaker 1: You can even go online at k AS in Kentucky,
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Speaker 1: Biggs b brother I GGS K Biggs at Carol's sheriff
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Speaker 1: dot com. Please help us find Kelly. Goodbye, said