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107: Like School in the Summertime · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Tension breaker had to be done the following feature has
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  Speaker 1: been rated r by the motion picture association of america
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  Speaker 1: it is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 2: Our nuclear reactor pumping out 1 million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 3: How could I possibly be expected to handle school on
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  Speaker 3: a day like this? What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: Once again, I am Brian, and this week I have
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  Speaker 3: a special guest co-host, none other than the charming Katie
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  Speaker 3: from Show Show. Hooray!
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  Speaker 4: That's me! Woohoo!
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure many listeners are familiar with you, but for
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  Speaker 3: those who aren't, can you give them one of those
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  Speaker 3: dating game bios where you wrap up your entire life
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  Speaker 3: in three unrelated facts that She's a firefighter, she loves
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  Speaker 3: Chinese food, and she spends her free time playing chicken
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  Speaker 3: on the highway. Say hello to Katie! Oh, man.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: If you got one of those, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I can, I mean, I don't really have, like, a
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  Speaker 6: standard issue one that I use.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, that's reassuring, because if you did, I would be
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  Speaker 3: kind of frightened.
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  Speaker 6: I walk into every party I've ever been to with
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  Speaker 6: that as my introduction.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you have it recorded and just, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, just like, she has no life and watches movies.
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  Speaker 6: One of her best friends is a jerk to her,
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  Speaker 6: and they do a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's all true.
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  Speaker 6: She's not super fond of Chinese food. It makes her
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  Speaker 6: stomach feel kind of queasy. But Sushi, yeah, she's all
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  Speaker 6: about that. And, yeah, here she is, this chick. They
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  Speaker 6: don't even bother saying my name, either.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that one girl.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the game shows are just... Oh, and here she
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  Speaker 6: comes again.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, we'll insert the applause right here. Because the
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  Speaker 3: crowd goes wild.
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  Speaker 6: Give us extra time for the applause, you know, because....
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you're used to that. Yeah, totally. Wait for
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  Speaker 3: the applause to die down. Yep.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, otherwise, you know, normally on most of our shows,
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  Speaker 3: we'll go ahead and get the ball rolling, you know,
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  Speaker 3: at least ease people into our geekiness with some sort
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  Speaker 3: of geek activities for the last few weeks. So if
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  Speaker 3: you want, I can start just to give you a
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  Speaker 3: chance to get yours in order. Yes. give you more
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  Speaker 3: time to fight with it. Thank you. Coming off the
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  Speaker 3: holiday season as we were, I've actually had a little
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  Speaker 3: more downtime than usual, so I actually watched a couple
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  Speaker 3: of things, which sometimes is unusual.
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  Speaker 8: It's sad.
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  Speaker 3: I have... I did see Salt. Do you have specific
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  Speaker 3: feelings on Angelina?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think she's, like, robotically pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's something.
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  Speaker 6: So there's that. I mean... She has a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: kids that she's collected, which is.
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  Speaker 3: A whole litter.
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  Speaker 6: At least something to comment on, I suppose. I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, she seems like an alright person. I think
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  Speaker 6: she gets a lot of, I don't know, flack from everybody, but...
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm really excited to hear what you have
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  Speaker 6: to say, because, man, I still don't even know what
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  Speaker 6: the F that movie's supposed to be about.
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  Speaker 3: See, okay, that was my problem going in. That's why
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  Speaker 3: I didn't go run out and see it in the theater,
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  Speaker 3: because they horribly mismarketed this thing with a terrible trailer.
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  Speaker 6: Like.
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  Speaker 3: It makes it look like another dumb action movie with Angelina, which,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she does quite a few.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, I realized, you know, in watching it, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people like to hate on Angelina, and I admit,
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  Speaker 3: I take my shots at her all the time. But
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  Speaker 3: then watching that, I remembered it's usually because of her
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  Speaker 3: public persona. It is her tabloid life, you know. So
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  Speaker 3: that's what we're bombarded with every day. So I think
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  Speaker 3: we get more of that, and that's what I like
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  Speaker 3: to make fun of. But, yeah, I... In watching it,
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  Speaker 3: I realized, you know, when I finally sit down and
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  Speaker 3: watch one of her movies, I remember, oh, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: She's actually a good actress. And, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 3: that this role is going to be winning her any
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  Speaker 3: Oscars this year, but.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, hey, now. Nothing was announced yet.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, if she's going to win anything, it's
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  Speaker 3: for that stellar Golden Globe-nominated performance in The Tourist, so.
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  Speaker 6: Don't even get me... Oh, I'm... You want an enraged
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  Speaker 6: Katie for the show, you've got one. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's go. You love the tourist. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Good to know.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: So, well, that was the thing. It's like, that's another
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  Speaker 3: one that was just weird, but that reminded me too,
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  Speaker 3: like of just as an actress, she's got such a
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  Speaker 3: weird career. It's like, who else can do like, actually
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  Speaker 3: turn in Oscar nominated performances and do all these serious,
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  Speaker 3: heavy dramas and then turn around and do like, like
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  Speaker 3: kicking action movies, you know, like back to back, almost
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  Speaker 3: one after the other, her entire career. And like, you
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  Speaker 3: don't see, you know, when's the next time you think
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  Speaker 3: you're going to see Kate Winslet, like, you know, kicking
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  Speaker 3: ass and kicking dudes in the head and firing heavy machinery.
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  Speaker 6: No, really though. She's like, She's just growing up to
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  Speaker 6: be Meryl Streep, Kate Winslet, so that's definitely not the
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  Speaker 6: path that she's chosen. But you know what I think
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  Speaker 6: is funny when you're talking about weird careers, and I
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  Speaker 6: was just thinking this because I was watching the trailer
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  Speaker 6: for that movie that's coming out with Ashton Kutcher and
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  Speaker 6: Natalie Portman. And, you know, like, Portman's getting all this
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  Speaker 6: talk about Oscars now with the Black Swan thing. And
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  Speaker 6: then she's going and doing, like, crap movies that she
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  Speaker 6: doesn't need to do. And I'm like, why is this happening? Like,
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  Speaker 6: this woman that everyone is saying is going to be, like,
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  Speaker 6: so good. Oh, my gosh, so good. Just the best
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  Speaker 6: actress ever. And now she's, like, wearing frilly things and
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  Speaker 6: bouncing around with Ashton Kutcher in this stupid throwaway movie.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've thought that about her whole career. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you were a small child and you were already turning
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  Speaker 3: in better performances than most people ever. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you really don't need to work your way up through
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  Speaker 3: these crappy movies to good movies. Like, you started out
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  Speaker 3: pretty damn amazing. Yeah. And then you kind of midway
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  Speaker 3: through started doing crap you didn't need to do. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you're really better than half your projects. Why don't you
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  Speaker 3: stop doing those?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just... bizarre, but Angelina Jolie was, like, good
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  Speaker 6: in salt, eh?
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  Speaker 3: Um, yeah, I mean, it's one of those, and again,
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  Speaker 3: back to that trailer, that trailer just made it look dumb,
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  Speaker 3: and once you get into this, it's like, more so
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  Speaker 3: than her performance, I think you, because what she does
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  Speaker 3: performance-wise is actually just be a good action star, which
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  Speaker 3: is weird, you know, you never know what to expect
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  Speaker 3: going into one of her movies, but, I mean, she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't wuss out on any of this, she is a full-on...
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  Speaker 3: just spends half the movie kicking people in the head,
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  Speaker 3: climbing out the side of buildings, jumping off of moving trucks.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of it, I mean, they show, like,
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  Speaker 3: a little documentary thing on the DVD, and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of it is actually her. Like, she's just kind of crazy. And, like, will, like,
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  Speaker 3: step up and do all this stuff. So I almost
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  Speaker 3: give her credit as, you know, not phoning it in
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  Speaker 3: as a quote-unquote action star. It's like she kind of
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  Speaker 3: delivers on all that. But I think the part that they, like,
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  Speaker 3: totally don't, drop the ball on is giving you an
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  Speaker 3: idea that there's some sort of plot. Because I think
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of a cool little, like, it's this throwback
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  Speaker 3: to the Cold War and this, like, missing story of, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, implanted spies and all that. So it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of an interesting story, even more so than, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you could almost do a more serious movie with it
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  Speaker 3: than they did. They went the action route. But I
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  Speaker 3: think it's kind of an interesting way that the story goes.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's what kind of kept me going
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  Speaker 3: is I like the– the direction that the plot takes
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  Speaker 3: along the way and the weird, it does have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of twists that it throws in there, but not
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  Speaker 3: really the like in night kind of versions that you expect.
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  Speaker 6: It's just stuff.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's nothing stupid. It's just along the way. You're like, Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So now it's one of those, like let's complicate the
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  Speaker 3: plot by throwing all these extra characters doing weird things.
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  Speaker 3: But there are a few times where I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming. That's actually a decent way
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  Speaker 3: for them to go.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, had I known that I would have been
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  Speaker 6: much more inclined to go out of my way to
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  Speaker 6: see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was my, it's like, I didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to go run and see it at the theater. But for,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a couple of bucks on the DVD rental,
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  Speaker 3: it's worth sitting through. I got a lot more enjoyment
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  Speaker 3: out of it than I expected going in.
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  Speaker 6: Now, like, say on your DVD shelf you had to
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  Speaker 6: put this somewhere next to Tomb Raider and Mr. and Mrs.
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  Speaker 3: Smith.
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  Speaker 6: Where would you put that on your shelf? In between?
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  Speaker 6: After both of them? Before them both?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if I've finished watching Mr. and Mrs. Smith,
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  Speaker 3: but I know people like that one. That's one of
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  Speaker 3: the better ones, actually.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that is a pleasure of mine. I will totally
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  Speaker 6: admit that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that might be at the high end. I
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  Speaker 3: was never overly thrilled with the Tomb Raider movies, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that you can be, but I guess
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  Speaker 3: there are some people that are. So, yeah, I'd definitely
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  Speaker 3: put it above and a little smarter than the Tomb
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  Speaker 3: Raider movies, but I guess that's not saying much.
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  Speaker 6: It's really not.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe sandwiched right in between there.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, sandwiched. I'll accept that answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's entertaining. It was a little more interesting
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  Speaker 3: than I expected. Let's see. Other than that, I did
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  Speaker 3: watch No Way to Treat a Lady. Oh, what's that?
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  Speaker 3: It's 1968. It's Rod Steiger and George Siegel, a relatively young...
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  Speaker 3: George Siegel. But it's funny because he still kind of
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  Speaker 3: plays it that same way. It's like if you've seen
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  Speaker 3: him in stuff as an older guy, his performance is
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  Speaker 3: always kind of that same way. He's just like a,
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  Speaker 3: you know, 26-year-old version of himself doing the exact same performance.
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  Speaker 3: He's probably a little older than that, actually, but... They
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  Speaker 3: were trying to pretend, like... And that was the sad thing.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, he's like... He looks like he's about 30,
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  Speaker 3: but he's living with his mother. And, well, he's like
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  Speaker 3: a cop, though. And I'm like, okay, you've got a job.
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  Speaker 3: For the love of God, get out of that house.
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  Speaker 3: Because his mother is horrible. And not just, like, as
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  Speaker 3: a character, yes, she's meant to be this overbearing mother.
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  Speaker 3: But on top of that, the woman who plays her
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  Speaker 3: is terrible. Like, she is the most... obnoxious nagging and
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  Speaker 3: I know she's trying to vamp that up a little
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  Speaker 3: bit but on top of that I've seen her in
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  Speaker 3: other stuff she's actually really this annoying in the real
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  Speaker 3: world so yeah if you take her out of the
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  Speaker 3: movie it's kind of a fun movie to watch her
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  Speaker 3: scenes are almost excruciating to get through but But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting. Rod Steiger plays this, and it's
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  Speaker 3: funny that it's 68, because it's kind of a serial
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  Speaker 3: killer movie, but it's played with sort of a light
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  Speaker 3: tone to it. It's kind of weird. He goes around
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  Speaker 3: killing these middle-aged women, and they're trying to piece together why,
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  Speaker 3: and it's still kind of questionable by the end of it,
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  Speaker 3: some of the stuff. Some of his motivations don't always
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  Speaker 3: make sense, but he's killing middle-aged women, and then he
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  Speaker 3: draws lips on their foreheads, After he drags him in
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  Speaker 3: the bathroom?
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  Speaker 6: That's creative.
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  Speaker 3: I guess. At the time, I was like, okay, what
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  Speaker 3: are you doing? And then by the end of the movie,
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  Speaker 3: you're like, okay, wait. What the hell's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they sort of give reason as things pan out.
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  Speaker 3: But still, some of the basics, I think it's more
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  Speaker 3: of they turn it into this cat and mouse game.
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  Speaker 3: He's the killer, but by the second time around, he
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  Speaker 3: sees himself killed. getting, like, overlooked in the newspaper, so
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  Speaker 3: he wants to get more attention for it. So he starts, like,
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  Speaker 3: calling the cop, who is George Siegel, and, like, telling him, like,
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  Speaker 3: from the murder scene, he's calling him and being... And
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  Speaker 3: he puts on these crazy disguises when he does each one,
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  Speaker 3: so he'll call him as the character of the person
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  Speaker 3: he's playing. So, like, one, he's, like, German or something,
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  Speaker 3: and he's, like, calls him with the accent.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, that's really bizarre.
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  Speaker 3: It's very strange. And it's... Sorry, so, like, as.
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  Speaker 6: Far as, like, these lips on the forehead, is he
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  Speaker 6: drawing them, or is it, like, he's making them look
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  Speaker 6: like someone was kissing the forehead of, like, these victims?
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  Speaker 3: No, he takes a lipstick out of the, like, cabinet
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  Speaker 3: for the first one and just badly draws a set of...
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  Speaker 3: At first, you're like, what the hell is he doing?
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  Speaker 3: But then you realize, okay, he's trying to make lips
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  Speaker 3: with this lipstick. But, yeah, that's it. It's not like
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  Speaker 3: an actual lip print, which would almost be more... creepy
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  Speaker 3: and make more sense I guess.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah I was like oh maybe that's what's going on
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  Speaker 6: but like.
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  Speaker 3: In a more perverted way but no this is just
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  Speaker 3: like bad you know grade school drawings okay but yeah
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  Speaker 3: I think that the most weird thing is the tone
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  Speaker 3: because they work in Lee Remick plays the the girlfriend's
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  Speaker 3: love interest whatever you want to call it for George
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  Speaker 3: Siegel so they like shift back and forth and they'll
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  Speaker 3: be like he'll be at like a murder scene killing
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  Speaker 3: her and then they'll be like oh, George Segal wants
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  Speaker 3: to go on a date with her. It shifts in
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  Speaker 3: this light tone to them having banter back and forth,
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  Speaker 3: and she's playing real coy and trying to be like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to go out with you anyway. So
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  Speaker 3: it's really funny the way that it's just one of those,
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  Speaker 3: you get such a different tone from movies in different decades,
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  Speaker 3: so it's really weird looking at a serial killer movie
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  Speaker 3: From 68. Because, like, the creepier ones came in in
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  Speaker 3: the 70s when we had all these serial killers. And
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  Speaker 3: then by, like, the 90s, they're, like, you know, grim
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  Speaker 3: and disgusting. It's weird looking at one from 68. All right. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'd say watch it. You like some of the older movies,
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  Speaker 3: so I think you'd be at least interested in it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, I'm totally intrigued. It sounds amazing, so.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that it'll change your whole outlook on movies,
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  Speaker 3: but it's a fun watch, so.
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  Speaker 6: I'm confident that it will, and I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of interested to hear your take on it.
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  Speaker 3: Other than that, the only other thing I was going
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  Speaker 3: to say, and this will come into tie-in later, yesterday
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  Speaker 3: Misty J and I ended up going to a flea
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  Speaker 3: market here, which is a huge, like, giant convention center-sized
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: flea market. That's super geeky, and I assume that'll tie
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: into our geek activities anyway. But I don't have much money,
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  Speaker 3: but what I found that I had to get, it
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: was an actual children's Halloween costume from the 50s. that
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  Speaker 3: was still sort of intact of this vinyl skeleton mask.
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  Speaker 3: And I realized as I saw it, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: number one, it's kind of cool. It's this ancient version
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  Speaker 3: of a skeleton Halloween mask, but wait, on top of it,
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  Speaker 3: I started looking at it. I was like, wait, I
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  Speaker 3: had that. And I had like the years later, they
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  Speaker 3: kept cranking it out and doing the reissues of it
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  Speaker 3: and just doing like a cheap plastic version later. So
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  Speaker 3: they kept making the same mask, but I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: I had that one. So I, I need to get
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  Speaker 3: this one now. Luckily, it was at least cheap enough
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  Speaker 3: I could actually scrape together a few bucks and get it.
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  Speaker 6: That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I have this vintage 50s falling apart skeleton mask that
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  Speaker 3: I think will come into play later as we get
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  Speaker 3: into the icky horror obsession. I thought that was an
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: interesting tie-in going into this week's movie. For the most part.
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  Speaker 3: That was my geeky week. Any activities for you?
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  Speaker 6: Geek activities. I mean, I'm probably the coolest person I know,
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  Speaker 6: so everything I do doesn't really seem at all geeky.
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  Speaker 3: You just keep telling yourself that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. I did score a seven. Here's a
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  Speaker 6: geeky bit. I was like, oh, man, I can't think
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  Speaker 6: of one geeky thing. And, yep, I'm looking at my
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  Speaker 6: apartment right now, and I'm surrounded by all this stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But I was able to score off of eBay.
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  Speaker 3: That's geeky already.
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  Speaker 6: It's going to be amazing. You're sitting down, so this
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  Speaker 6: is good.
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: A seven-inch of Steve Martin singing Dentist from The Little
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Shop of Horrors.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: More than my excitement that, like, I scored this thing
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: off eBay when it came, I, like, eked out loud
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: with how excited I was. It's in perfect condition. And
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: then I was like, it's almost like no one ever
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: listened to it. I heard myself saying, I was like,
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: all right, well, I'm just going to put this on.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I think you answered your own question there.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: How is it so perfect? But, I mean, I didn't
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: even know they made seven inches of that. It's like
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: one of the most random parts of the movie, I think.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, all of those songs are amazing, but to
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: put that on a 7-inch seemed weird.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding? All the rocking hits off that? They
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: were on the top 40 that year?
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I mean... You know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: All those cool DJs were like, oh, next up we've
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: got Steve Martin doing.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: And after that, we're going to follow it up with
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Somewhere That's Greek.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, that's a good song. Oh, now they just have
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: to play that cool musical career of Rick Moranis now. Aww.
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, he's like a country star.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: That's what I was saying. He legitimately has albums now.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Because I haven't listened to, I listened to a couple
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: of songs off that album, but I didn't listen to
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: the full thing. I heard kind of good things about it,
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: but maybe it was just the hype because they were like, hey,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: Rick Moranis made an album.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Of all people to make an album and of all
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: genres for you to head to, I don't know what
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: to do with any of that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, good for him.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose so.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Whatever he needs to do.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I wish he'd make some more movies, actually. Me too.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: I miss him.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: He's so entertaining. Where has he gone?
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: But he's done. When his wife passed away, he was like, nope,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not acting anymore.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, see, I didn't know he officially called it off.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I thought he was just taking a break.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he, and I think that's really the main
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: motivation for when he did the album. It's kind of
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: like a way, this like catharsis thing for him. But, yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: I don't think he's coming back, or at least that's
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: what he said.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Well, that makes it really sad now.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, right?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Not only that he's gone, but for really terrible reasons.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a total bummer. But he might, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Michael Jordan it and come back, so.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm retiring. No, wait.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: Just kidding. Remember when I said that five times? Yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: don't take me seriously at all.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I just got another mortgage. Time to reevaluate.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Yep. But, yeah, so that was my geeky moment, I'd say.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you came through. That's massively geeky. And I'm impressed.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: That's a good level of geekiness right there. Sad. Sad
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: and impressive. What more can you ask for?
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Well, if that is rounding out the Geek Week. Take
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: a quick break, and then we'll be back with this
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: week's movie.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Excited.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Hey kids, how would you like to hear this on
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the screen? instead of the great show you came to see?
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: That's what you sound like.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Honest.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Please cooperate and do your part in keeping this theater
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: quiet so everyone, including you, can enjoy it. Remember, lots
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: of adults and kids, too, paid admission to enjoy the show.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: we must insist on absolute quiet. Otherwise, we will be
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: forced to evict all disturbance makers from the theater. Those
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: asked to leave today will be refused admission to this
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: theater in the future.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: This is the movie that Rex Reed called the most
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: horrifying motion picture I have ever seen. This film is
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: positively ruthless in its attempt to drive you right out
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: of your mind. This is the horror movie to end
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: them all. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre from New Line Cinema.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Rated R.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: No one under 17 admitted without parent or guardian.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Hi, this is.
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: Famous Hollywood producer Robert Evans. You know, I've made a
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: lot of powerful enemies during my time in Hollywood. Like
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: the time I pushed Steve McQueen in front of a
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: moving car on the set of The Getaway because he
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: was macking on my lady, Allie McGraw. But I've made
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: one great friend, a boffo friend, if you will.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Since I retired.
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: It's called Show Show, and it's the best fucking movie
• 21:16
  Speaker 11: podcast ever. It's even better than cocaine, which I would
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: know a lot about.
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: Visit Show Show at showshow.podomatic.com or search Show Show, all
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: one word, in the iTunes store.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Look, there comes one of them now.
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: Show Show.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: My name is George Kosana.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I'm with Night of the Living Dead, and I'm listening
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: to Movie Meltdown.
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: The dead, they're all messed up. It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Shoop.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, Mr.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Shoop.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Congratulations. You've been chosen to teach summer school. Ah, shoot.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: If only I'd known sooner.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: We're going to Hawaii.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: May I remind you, Mr. Shoup, you're up for tenure.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: You want a job next year? Oh, come on, Mr.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Gills.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Look, we got lays on and everything.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: You'll be teaching remedial English. Remedial English?
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Look, I ain't no English teacher.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: See? Double negative. No, I hand out basketballs, check for jockstraps. I'm, like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: very challenged. No, I'm not a real teacher.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's all right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: These aren't real students. They're unmotivated, irresponsible, not too bright.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: They'll relate to you.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: No, no, look, the only reason I got into this
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: whole teaching gig in the first place is to get
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: my summers off.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: No, I'm afraid my answer has to be no. No
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: thank you?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Bottom line, Mr.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Shoup, you need my recommendation for tenure. This is blackmail.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: We call it school spirit.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: I've got a pretty girl who loves me a lot.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I've got a fast car that looks real hot.
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: I've got a fine pad or stereo and I judge
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: you well in the school.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: I go, go, go, go, go, but I'm happy.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: I'm happy though.
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: The world is upside down.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Man, I'm looking over the cast list for Summer School,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: and it, oh, man.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Epic, is it not?
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: It's just like, wow.
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: All right, so we're back.
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: This week's Sofa Theater feature is Summer School.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: The year is 1987, director Carl Reiner. The plot, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you now, I didn't write this. There were
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: several of them. They were all really bad, and I
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: went with the first one, and I had to take
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: about half of it off. So, anyway, it says, A
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: high school gym teacher has big plans for the summer,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: but is forced to cancel them to teach a bonehead
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: English class for misfit, goof-off students. That's a little harsh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: That was accurate.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Granted, some of the basics are accurate, but it's a
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: little harsh. So a big spoiler alert. If you've lived
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a sad life and you've not had the opportunity to
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: bask in the joy of summer school, well, get out
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: there and do it. Otherwise, we're going to, you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming, kill all the clever, twisty plot points in
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: this movie. You know how serpentine this movie is. We
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: don't want to ruin it for you, so it's fair warning.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: So before we get into our thoughts on the movie,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: it is time for.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: One from the vault.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Our ongoing series where we delve into the vaults of
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: an actor and we get to hear their thoughts on
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: a specific movie. This time around, we hear from, well,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: let's be honest, the man who makes this movie, in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: my opinion. Dean Cameron, who you may know as Chainsaw.
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: But yeah, as far as the summer school.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I think that was sort of, especially for like this crowd,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: it is such a defining character. And even, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: me as a kid sitting there, it was kind of a,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it was just sort of comforting to
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: know that, you know, even if he was somewhat fictional,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: there was this other kid out there that was sort
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: of a movie geek to the level that I was.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, is it something that you drew from something
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: specific or?
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: Well, everybody has an obsession about something.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: So.
• 25:54
  Speaker 13: I mean, I had a month before we started shooting
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: the movie, so I watched every horror film I could.
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: And this is 86, so it's a.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Little more difficult.
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: Everything wasn't on VHS at the time, so I had
• 26:05
  Speaker 13: to do some scrounging and called in some favors. And
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't out on video at that point.
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: Like I said, I called in some favors and actually
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: got a copy of it on video and watched it
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: over and over again. But I became obsessed with horror films,
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: and I am to this day a huge fan.
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: And I think there was a.
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: In the script of Summer School, there was a parallel.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: There was a.
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: Whole subplot about the movie Freaks, and that was originally
• 26:35
  Speaker 13: the movie we were going to show instead of Texas
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: Chainsaw Massacre. But for whatever reason, it wasn't in there.
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: But there was this parallel with the movie Freaks, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: the class where Freaks were outcasts and the movie Freaks.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: They were outcasts.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: And so I've always.
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: you know in high school I was into drama and
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: music and stuff and I grew up in a football
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: town so I was an outcast and a freak and
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: so I always had this kinship with the horror fans
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: you know we are all in this together and there's
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: this geeky band I like called Marillion and they have
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: a song called Freaks that I really wanted to be
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: in the movie anyway but they didn't use the Freaks.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Thing it would seem fitting actually just parallel for the
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: cast yeah definitely as far as that I mean that
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: cast was sort of classic that group of people how
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: was it as far as the shoot itself.
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: It was great it was my first feature film and
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: I got.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: Completely spoiled because.
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: Carl Reiner who directed it he was this classic worked
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: with Dick Van Dyke and Sid Caesar and Imogen Koka
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: he would only work from 10 to 6 and I
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: thought this is great movies they shoot from 10 to
• 27:46
  Speaker 13: 6 like a regular job I love this And yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: because he said, there's no reason for you to kill
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: yourself doing a movie, especially a comedy. It was all
• 27:55
  Speaker 13: downhill from there.
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: Yeah, this is setting you up for a big fall.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: It really did.
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: How was he as a director?
• 28:02
  Speaker 13: Well, when he was sober and not on cocaine and
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: not screaming at everybody, you know, no.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
• 28:10
  Speaker 13: He was, I was, I was very fortunate because he
• 28:13
  Speaker 13: looked me out of the loop. And he didn't really
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: let the other cast ad-lib much. And he was great.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Because I did a lot of work.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: On the part.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: And he was great.
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: He saw that I cared and wanted to do a
• 28:27
  Speaker 13: great job and was way into it. This story is
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: on the web.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I've told him a million times.
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: But at my.
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: Audition, he gave me.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: At my last audition.
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: He gave me this really bad piece of direction in there.
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: And I looked at him, and I'm like, okay, well,
• 28:43
  Speaker 13: it's Carl Reiner. I guess he knows something I don't know.
• 28:47
  Speaker 13: And I did it, and it was horrible.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: And he said, thanks, and left.
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: And so I left, and I'm like, oh, that's weird.
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: And I got the job, and so we're on set,
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: and a couple weeks into the shoot, he goes, you
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: remember that really shitty direction I gave you? Yeah, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: he goes, I just wanted to see if you'd listen
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: to me.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
• 29:05
  Speaker 13: So I direct stuff. I direct a lot of the stage, and...
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: I do that occasionally with actors to see if they'll...
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: What you want from an actor is when you say, jump,
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: you want the actor to say, how high and where
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: do I land?
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: So that's a good trick.
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: Yeah, just a test to see if you have faith
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: in them.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good.
• 29:30
  Speaker 14: That's definitely old school, you can tell.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: But no, I guess the ad-libbing works out, because you
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: seem to kind of own the character even more than
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: everybody else, I think. you, yeah, you definitely sort of
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: tie the whole movie together. I think it is sort
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: of what makes that movie.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Well, there was a lot of parallels.
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: I mean, I was a class clown in high school
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: and so I drew on a lot of what, you know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: how I was when I was in high school.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: So big thanks again to Dean for talking to us
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: and giving us his memories of summer school. So, With that,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: we'll move into our own sappy remembrances. So, Katie, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: ask you, where would you like to begin?
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'd like to, how did you find Summer School? And, like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: when was the first time that you watched it, I guess?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It's pretty early on. I think it was relatively soon
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: after it came out. I didn't see it originally in
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: the theater, but it was definitely VHS, probably within a
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: couple of years of it. either VHS or cable, but
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I'd say pretty early on.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, this is like, this was, this movie
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: was my movie to watch with my sister when we
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: were growing up. And it was just like, it was
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: always on TNT or TBS at like the random, you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: like two 30 in the afternoon time when you're just like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I don't know. We got no live. We
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: got to, Summer school raised us, is basically what I
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: can say.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I have many movies that, yeah, I have that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: It was a really big part of my life, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: still is, but it's just like, ah, well, we could
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: start with this, too, because I was watching the Rose Bowl,
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, we started talking about Mark Harmon,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: and about how he was like, the quarterback of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: century pretty much for UCLA. And I was like, wait,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: you mean Mr. Shoop? And everyone's like, what are you
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: talking about? I'm like, Mr. Shoop. You mean Mr. Shoop
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: was like a quarterback? And they're like, I don't know
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: who that is. But I was like, amazing. And I
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: was like, no, no, he's a gym teacher.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: You can't talk to regular people is the moral of
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the story.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: I was like, that's Mr. Shoop. They were very confused
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: and It was like they were trying to steal it
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: from me.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: They were trying to force sports into your heartwarming tale
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: of growing up.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, what? No.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I don't care about sports. He checks for jockstraps and
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: hands out basketballs. I know what he does.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: I know what he throws. He throws tennis balls into
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: the ocean.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Or juggles.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Or juggles.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: When he's supposed to be teaching class.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Ah, it just hurt my heart. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: You were saying it raised you, and I actually, with
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: this one, as we brought up when I was talking
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: to him, to me, it really, like, I really, like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: latched on to specifically, like, Chainsaw, if not the movie itself.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: But it was kind of like the first incident for
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: me of, like, full-on movie geek character, like, in a movie.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, there may be more if you go back
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: in older movies. But for me, I really, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: there were a lot of, like, computer nerds and stuff
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: in movies in the 80s. But I don't remember anybody
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: at that point that was a movie geek. Like, sitting
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: there watching it, I was like, I'm like, shit, that's me.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching it like, I'm that dork. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: dress like him. The horror t-shirts. His room kind of
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: looked like mine. It didn't have all the horror prosthetics
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: and makeup as him. But the random horror movie posters
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: and a straight eyeball sitting around. You know, I have
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. So, it was really kind of weird. Like,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: at the time, it really kind of was, like, hopeful.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Because I felt kind of alone in that. And I
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: guess now it's a little more widespread. But at that time,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't really know anybody else that was like this
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: hardcore movie geek version, you know, like I was. So
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: to see somebody, yeah, they were fictional. But it was
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: kind of reassuring that I wasn't alone. There was some
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: other geek out there that was equally as obsessed with
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: movies and had severed hands sitting around his room.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I guess that's comforting.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: In a sad way, yes.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, yeah, totally. I mean, I wonder, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: have to wonder how, I mean, because Chainsaw pretty much
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: eclipses all the other characters in this movie.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: He really does.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Like, he owns the movie. And I just, I wonder
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: how much of that is, like, his performance, or if
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: it kind of, like, if his character did kind of,
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: I don't know, grow into something much bigger than it
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: was supposed to be initially. I don't know, but... I mean,
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: when you say summer school to someone, that's the first
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: character they think of.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: That's what he was saying. Everybody else had to stick
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: to the character. And I don't know if it was
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Carl Weiner. I mean, he just knows so much about
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: comedy and could tell just how Dean is. I mean,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: he's just naturally funny and naturally sort of a smartass. Maybe, well,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: it plays so well to the Chainsaw character that the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: director kind of gave him license to kind of do
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: his own thing. A little more of him, like, thrown
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: into the character. And everybody else had to stick pretty
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: close to the way it was written. I think that's
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: how it kind of played out.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: That makes sense. And that would probably also explain why
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Rockula was so bad.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I know you guys love that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Just stick to the classic brilliant script, okay? Don't stray
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: from it at all.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Or start rapping.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: That movie never happened in my eyes.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I think we're still going to go back and watch
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: that one. I know, it's not as beloved as this one.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: No. So, okay, I have to ask you this, too.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: So you were so, like, parallel to Chainsaw. I mean,
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: how many pairs of cool dude sunglasses did you own?
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Well, before or after I wrote the letter? Hmm. See,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: he had all these friends and gave them all away,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: but I'm a dork, so I hoarded them all, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I lived off that box of cool dude sunglasses for, like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the next, you know, 20 summers.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're still wearing them now, right?
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I've got them on right now.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Okay, great.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I've got it, well, that and my visor, because, you know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I figured I needed that cool Mr. Shoop visor while
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I did this, you know.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Naturally. You know, I was getting so upset when, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know, like, what the style of those glasses
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: are called, if they're called, like, shades or whatever they are, but,
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: you know, like, Kanye started wearing those glasses.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: And everyone was like, oh, the Kanye glasses. And I
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: was like, no, no, those are the cool dudes, okay?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Like the ones with the lots in them?
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they look like blinds. Yeah. And everyone was giving
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: him credit, like, oh, yeah, those are a big deal
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: now because Kanye wears them. He's like, no, actually, that
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: is not the case.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Kanye's a hack.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: He's a late adopter of freaking the cool dude shades.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: That's all he is.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Leeches onto everything.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: I guarantee you he loves summer school.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Fucking you're not. I mean, that's what I realized going
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: into this. I mean, watching again this week, cause we
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: just had this just actually yesterday when I was sitting there,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: we were having this discussion about a Christmas story. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about that one, but
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: we had this Misty had someone that she knows that
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: hates that movie. And we're like, how the hell do
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: you hate that movie? And then I was like summer
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: school and I was, well, I have that same reaction.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm watching it trying to, you know, I'm,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a professional here, trying to look
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: at it objectively and find something to complain about if
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I needed to, but I can't. I can't find anything
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: that's not likable in this movie. It's just so damn likable.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: It is. It's designed to be perfect. It is. I
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: was going to say, as far as a Christmas story goes,
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think you can get worn out, but still,
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: you watch the movie and it's like, okay, there's nothing
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: to hate. about it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: It's just good.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, TNT, should they really be showing it for
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: 24 hours a day? Like the two days surrounding Christmas? No,
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: probably not.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I like it because then I don't have to worry
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: about catching it. I just turn it on and watch
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: it like a time and a half and then turn
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: it off and you know, I don't have to worry
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: about it. So I like it. It makes it easier.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: You can watch it whenever you want, but I don't
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: know if it helps TNT. I don't know if they're
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of constant viewing, but maybe just everybody
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: hitting it at different times. I don't know.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: Maybe. I just, I mean, I have never understood that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny that all of them are doing it now.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Like last year, they started looping Christmas Vacation, and then
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: one of the other ones.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, I wish they would do it with Scrooged,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: because I never... See, I think that... That's the movie
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: they never play, and they should.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: See, I think that was this year, because I don't
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: think they did Christmas Vacation, but one of them played Scrooged,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and I think they were playing it at least multiple times.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they looped it every.
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: Day, but.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: See, you missed it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: I missed it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: When are they going to start looping summer school?
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah. That, that, see, that kind of was where I
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: was going with it. It was like, you can get
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: worn out, but they never with summer school. That's not
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: a risk that you take because they never play it.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: They used to, you know, when I was, it was like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, again, always on.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Another reason I think I got so attached to it
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: is over the years. It not only did I own
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: a copy of it, but on top of that, We
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: had cable at the house and every day I would
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: turn it on and there it is. And once again,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: it's so likable. It's not like you're going to turn
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: it off. I mean, oh God, here comes my favorite part.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: At any point in the movie, you can be like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: oh God, here comes my favorite part.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's kind of true. With the exception of like
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: the Courtney Thorne Smith stuff is probably, not that I
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: don't like it, but it's probably like my least favorite part.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: You know, her character's not really that intriguing to me.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: That's because it's Courtney Thorne Smith.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Could be that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: No offense to her, but I've seen her in MIDI
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: projects over the years now, and she's never really engaging.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a world's place or according
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: to Jim, she's always just kind of there. It's like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I see you. You're on the screen,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: but you're not really winning me over. I don't really
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: hate you, but you're not really winning me over.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: She's kind of, I would qualify her as like a
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Lifetime Channel grade actress.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but she hasn't like, moved up to that level
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: of stardom yet, I guess. I mean, it's pretty sad
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: when you haven't gotten up to the Lifetime status.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Seriously, that's pretty bad. That is pretty bad.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe one day she'll be the.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: Maybe Oxygen. I mean... Like, one of the, there's, there
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: are different channels, right? Yeah. Oxygen and Lifetime. Okay, great.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, they kind of mesh together.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Well, they have different levels. Oxygen's still the up-and-comer. You
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: get to be a huge name like Meredith Baxter, then
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: you graduate up to Lifetime.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: You've got to be a huge star like that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: That is no joke.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: One day, Courtney Thorne-Smith, you count your blessings and you
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: get up there.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Look, Gills is having a cow about her field trips.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Unless you guys all pass that test, my job is Memorex.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Anybody got any ideas here?
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Get yourself some want ads.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I don't care what your files say.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: You guys are not that dumb.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Actually, Mr.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Shoup, those files are usually right on the money.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: You all feel that way?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I do. I may as well go home.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Mr. Shoup, look, we don't want you to lose your job.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Think about what you're asking. You want us to study?
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: The thought did cross my mind.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: Well, what's in it for us? What do we get
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: out of it?
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Literacy?
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: You mentioned earlier, did you want to go into the
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: whole all-star 80s cast that we have here?
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, this is where I was going with this, too.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at some of the pictures right now, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: this is more as a side note, but I was shocked.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Did you see the informant?
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: No, that's the Matt Damon, right?
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the Matt Damon one.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I have heard good things, but I have not watched it.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: It's shockingly good, actually. I was really impressed by it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: The trailer seemed funny to me. So, I mean, I
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: had kind of high hopes, but I really was still
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: impressed because it looked kind of drab, even though the
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: story is fascinating. But the best part, I have to say,
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: is you need... Well, and I don't even want to
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: really spoil it, but one of the cast members of
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Summer School... shows up in this movie awesome and you're
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: gonna you're watching it and you're just like wait a
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: minute i know this person where do i know this
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: person from this and because it's like older now yeah
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: i'll say he is part of like the the class uh.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: They're older now and looking at some of their pictures
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: not some of them have not aged quite as.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: Well as others Yeah, no, but, I mean, he, like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: walks in and it's just like, what? Oh, my God.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: And I think I might have said, like, oh, my God,
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: when I was in the theater watching it. And people
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: were probably like, what? I don't get it. Because it's not, like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: a scene that a lot of stuff is happening in. Oh, man.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: It's great.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: And nobody else had a clue who that person was. Oh, no.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: And even, I had to look it up on my
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: phone when we left the theater because I was like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: I got to be sure. I got to be sure. Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: It was just, yeah, it was crazy. But I'm trying, well,
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Shawnee Smith, she was a big 80s random show up
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: and everything.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: And really didn't make a name for herself until well
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: into the 90s. She was in a lot of stuff
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: in the 80s, and that's when I realized this is
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: an all-star cast, and I'm using that kind of jokingly,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: but an all-star cast of like, oh, it's that guy. Oh,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: look at that girl. I mean... Even Dean Cameron refers
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to himself. If you go to his website, he's like, oh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you're that one guy from that one movie. Like, he
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: even jokes about the fact that everybody knows him, but
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: nobody really knows him. So it's like, this is an
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: all-star cast of, hey, there's that one girl from the
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: People Under the Stairs. Hey, there's that guy from April
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Fool's Day. You've got a whole cast of, like, all
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: these people that are, like, just sort of turn up
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: in everything in that five or six year span of time.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of fun to, like, if you like
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: these cheesy 80 movies, you know, you get this big
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: conglomeration of people.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much. I mean, but for her, too, like,
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: she's in those Saw movies, isn't she?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where she came to be kind of famous.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Or at least the only reason I think people knew
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: her by name was when Saw came around.
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: And see, that's just not right.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I agree.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: Just terrible.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: That's because I don't care about Saw. I know I'm
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: probably in the minority since they've made billions of dollars
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: at this point.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: So.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Just makes me angry. What if it happened to Robin Thomas,
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: the vice principal?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. I don't know, but he is certainly a
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: bite in the ass, is he not?
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: He just, man, he knows how to ruin a day.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I just remember that term. I don't remember it being
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: used in that way ever before, or maybe since. He
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: sure is a bite in the ass.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Just a bite in the ass.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, I need to start working that
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: into a daily conversation.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: I think it works. If you were to take this cast... And, like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: put them into another movie.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I would watch that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, really, they could do anything.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Well, they all sort of deliver. I mean, my favorite
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: unsung hero is Kelly Jo Minter. She delivers some of
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the funniest things in that movie. And the thing is,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: she doesn't, like, she sort of plays it the way
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: you expect her to. But sometimes, and I don't know
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: if that was writing or if that was, like, directing,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: but there were moments in there that are just priceless.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: And they're almost all of her.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a time I will ever not
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: collapse upon myself with laughter when I hear, What, you
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: got dog ears? It makes me laugh every damn time.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: And how many times have I seen this movie?
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: Well, that's just a good joke.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, it is? Or even like her getting out of
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: the car with her seatbelt still on. Oh, God, that joke.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody else could have pulled that off,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: but whatever she did, it's just a perfect mixture. She's
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: just hilarious.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: She would have been in good company in, like, what
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: was that show? In Living Single. No. That's a mashup
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: right there.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is. I don't know about that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right? But for sure, Living Single.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I could see her being, like, a neighbor. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: A sassy neighbor comes over and is sassy.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: On a special guest neighbor on Martin one episode.
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: The one that Martin's not in drag.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: What? I mean, why? Why were the, why? Oh, my God.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I ask that about a lot of Fox shows, actually.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: I'm glad we fit in the Daily Martin reference that happens.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, doesn't everybody have those?
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: I think they do. They don't want to admit it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: It's like they're Steve Martin 7-inch, but they all have them.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Secured in plastic and sitting on a pedestal kept in
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: a locked container, as yours is right now.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Totally. Actually, it's still on.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: It's looping.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: It's just looping very quietly.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay. If we're going to have backup music,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: it's a good way to go.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Makes the mood.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: But I think we're going through the rundown of all
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: the characters. I think that's kind of what makes this movie.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I think because I've seen... A lot of cheesy high
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: school movies and a lot of stuff made it that
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: stuff and made later. And I think what sets it
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: apart is the characters. And it's not like they're all
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: that crazy original. I mean, they hit all the checkpoints.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: You know, we got a jock. We got a nerd.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: We got take your pick on the screw ups. We
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: got screw ups. So they hit all the little cliche.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: We got to have the grouping. You know, we got
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: to have one of everybody. So they've certainly got that covered. True.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: But I think it's a lot of movies wouldn't be
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: able to give these people the character that they have.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Like we don't spend a lot of time with a
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: lot of them. I feel like every one of them
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: gets their moment, and each one comes off as a
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: real character. And not just a, you know, insert your
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: cliche caricature of whoever they're supposed to be here. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: think they really find a way to give them just
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: enough character without overwhelming the story.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: Even the guy who went to the bathroom.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's one of the things I want to go into.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Not that guy. He's pretty memorable. But I always love
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: in any ensemble cast when there's, like, the extras... Really?
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: You realize they're not going to focus on him? So
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: let's talk about the guy with the mullet and the hat.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: What the hell is up with that guy?
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: He has, like, no lines. He's there. Then he'll be gone.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Then he'll be back again. And then by the end,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: he doesn't even take the test with him. Like, he's
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: there half the movie, but he doesn't take the test.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: I don't get that at all. Well, maybe they needed
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: just like an even number.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I guess. But like he's gone in the middle. You
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: don't see him for a while. And then when they
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: do the crazy makeup gag, he's back again.
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: And then they go to like the next couple of
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: scenes to the test and he's not there anymore.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Well, maybe he was supposed to be like the character
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: that really was there for summer school. Like everybody else
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: does kind of end up trying and they like have
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: something to bring to the table. They probably wouldn't have
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: been in summer school like in real life because they
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: are somewhat achievers. That guy was just, nah. He was
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: fucking it in.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: They have a goal and, you know, the rest really
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: have to strive for that goal. I still can't decide.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: One of the cast is listed as Scuzzy Kid.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: Scuzzy Kid.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I swear to God. Scroll on down your list. At
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: the very end, there's someone listed as Scuzzy Kid. And
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: I hope to God it's that guy. Oh, wait.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: David Wakefield as Scuzzy Kid.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I told you. I was like, oh, man, I hope
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: he's Scuzzy Kid. If you could put that on your resume,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I played Scuzzy Kid.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: There's no picture of him on us.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I know. I went searching for him. I can't really
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: find him.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: You Googled him, too, right?
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: David Wakefield. If you're out there, call in. Please, come forward.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: let us know what your role as scuzzy kid consisted
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: of and if you are that dude with the weird
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: mullet hair and the hat uh yeah i.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Mean if you can stand out in this group as
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: a scuzzy kid yeah really that's an achievement actually.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Hanging out chainsaw and dave and you're the.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: Scuzzy one yeah that's wow okay yeah that's impressive seen.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Oh man what happened well then we do lose like
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: a third of the room like that first time when
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: the class gets together it's like a huge class full
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: of kids and when they all run out it's like
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: they never come back like i guess they really didn't
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: want to go to summers because we were like the
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: rest of them after that yeah it's.
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: True they probably knew that it was totally unfair and
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: borderline like not policy what was going.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: On But if they were smart, they'd come back in
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: the last day and take the test like the bathroom guy.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: They still could have gotten their credit, you know, because
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: he got like a 90. He scored.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: That was amazing. They are kind of, though, to go
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: back to what you were saying, I mean, this is
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: pretty much just the Goonies. Like, it's kind of a
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: Goonies cast right here.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I guess. I was going with more like the typical
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: high school. I was going breakfast club. You know, you've got...
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: It's a bigger group, but you've got your jock, you've
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: got your nerdy person, you've got your basket case. Again,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: take your pick. They're all kind of like that. You've
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: got each person kind of represented.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: True.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: They had all the standard, you know, characters here. I mean,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: and especially we've got to have the jock because he's
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: got to get his grades up so he can get
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: back on the team and, you know... it hits all those.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: But again, I think you have to go back to
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the writing. I think it's just written better for these
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: characters and for the situation that it makes them stand out.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: It gives them these moments and these jokes that kind
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: of flesh them out a little bit and give them
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: a chance to sort of be a real character.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Okay. I'll agree with that. Maybe we can compromise and
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: say that they're the cast of breakfast club in the Goonies.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: Cause they just don't feel like they are like banding
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: together to save something like, you know, their education. Well,
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: they do.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: They have to, let's come together and save the community
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: center moment.
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: It's like, this is our time. And like, we're learning
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: about like, yeah, we are like cool and things are fine.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: And I don't know. I'm kind of stuck on this
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: Goonies thing now.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Well, to use that to get into what Dean said earlier,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: what do you think about the Freaks plot? If it
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: would have unfolded that way, I think it would have
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: tied it in even better.
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: That would have been amazing. That would have been amazing. Because,
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, as much as I love, like, where, obviously...
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: how the movie ended up. I think that for it to,
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: it would have felt more complete and like not as
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: just tacked on to kind of one character's, I don't know, personality.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: And it would have been, I think it would have
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: been better for everybody. It would have rounded out everyone
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: and kind of grouped them together more.
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: It would have had more of an arc to it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't have been just a gross movie for the
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: class to watch. You're not supposed to do that. Just
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: one more crazy thing that he did over the summer.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Whereas that, the movie actually ties to the plot itself
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: and our cast of characters. It's like that seems really
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: clever and like really almost takes it up a notch.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: And it's hard to improve upon perfection. But I think
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: it would have made it even more interesting as a story.
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's sad. But, you know, again, if we hold
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: out for that special edition.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're waiting for that super deluxe special edition of
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the DVD. There are, if you go back, because I
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: was looking through the goofs and trivia and stuff, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: then I went back, and I was watching the movie
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: to see where these moments were, and there was like
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: a whole missing scene where, if you look on the
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: blackboard during that one scene, there's the entire lyrics to
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Papa's Got a Brand New Bag written out behind Shoop,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: and it's a missing scene according to IMDb, and he
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: writes it all out, I guess, trying to teach them English.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: And then he does the entire performance of the song.
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: Oh my God.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: You missed out on seeing Shoop do James Brown. Now
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: think about that. They're really kind of ripping you off
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: on that one.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: They totally, I mean, I'd prefer not to think about
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: it because then I'll just focus on that and be
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: in a terrible mood.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: That one, it's actually funnier, not related. Like if you're
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: just watching it in theater and you could read it,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: it's probably kind of hard if you don't know what
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: it says. But in theaters, it's probably much bigger and
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: you're reading the lyrics and it's probably like, And it's
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: even funnier that there's entire lyrics to a James Brown
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: song on the board behind it with no explanation.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: That's just up there. That's funnier. But the one that's
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: weirder than it always occurred to me, and I never
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: really put enough into it to realize why, but all
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: of a sudden when Larry wakes up and he goes
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: to hand in his paper, he's got this weird greased
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: up hairdo going on. He never had it like that
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: before or even after.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: There's a missing scene, and you can see when he
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: stands up to give him his paper, stop for a
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: second and watch, the desk behind him are covered in
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: hair care products.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: What?
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Seriously, I watched it. Stop it. All these bottles
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: and all this hair care products everywhere. And there's this
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: missing scene where they write to another company about bad
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: hair care products, I guess, and they send them a
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: whole box of them. So there's a whole missing scene
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: where they get this box in and they're messing with
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: hair care products and, like, fixing each other's hair. They're, like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: putting in hair gel and doing some other kind of
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: crazy montage that we're missing out on. And that's why
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: his hair looks like that when he stands up to
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: deliver the dialogue with Shoop. And I remember... Even watching
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: the movie the first time, going, what's up with his
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: hair in this scene? He's got this weird duck tail
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: going on in the back. It makes no sense. And
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: the whole rest of the movie is not like that either.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: So only now, finally, how many years later, does it
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: come out? And I'm like, oh, well, no wonder it's
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: like that. We're missing a scene. Really good.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: That is really good to know.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: So, deluxe edition. I'm asking you, studio, get on this.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: And I hope they make it a funny name like
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: the Life's Beach edition, too. Like, I don't know how
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: they're going to top that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: As long as they don't make the cover look as
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: bad as the current DVD cover. Because I brought that
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: up and I saw that bikini crossing sign. I was like, oh, God.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: You make my head hurt.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: Like, so bad.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: So stupid. And the sad part is that's how they're
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: selling this movie. Some idiot's watching it going, well, that's
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: going to be funny.
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: Awkward sunglasses.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Crazy.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Wonder Mud is pretty damn awesome.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: Now, anyone interested in learning the correct form, please turn
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: to page 46 in your textbook.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Shit works. But going back to how things originally worked,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: he was mentioning that the reason that he got involved
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: in this project... It's because he was on the TV
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: version of, once again, it was a bad idea, but
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: he was on the Fast Times at Ridgemont High TV show. Oh, man.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: And I asked him at the time, I was like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: he was Spicoli, for God's sake. So I was like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: how do you go into something and try to be Spicoli?
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: And worse, the second Spicoli. So even he agreed it
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: was a bad idea.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: But.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: The good thing that came out of it is that
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the person responsible for that was still Amy Heckerling. She
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: wrote and directed that and went on to do the... Well,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: they only had a run of a couple episodes, but
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: she was still involved in doing the TV show. And
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: she was originally the one attached to direct this movie. Oh.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if that was part of that
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: plot line. And again, this was all speculation, but... The
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: fact that it was all originally planned and then fell
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: apart and the fact that she was gone to me
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: seems like it could be a reasonable excuse and why
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: it ended up going that way. So maybe it was
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: just something she had thrown out there and then when
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: they brought in all these new writers to write the
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: screenplay and then it all fell away. And instead they
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: put in something gory so then they could tie it
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: in with the big makeup scene at the end. I
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's the case, but it kind of
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: feels like that's what we're comparing it to. Maybe even
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: more so than The Breakfast Club, something like Fast Times.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: you know, you've got this group of weird mismatched kids
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: that all kind of feel like real high school kids,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: like weird, awkward high school kids. If you're looking for
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: like a group of mismatched characters that all kind of
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: feel like real high school kids, that feel like the weird,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: awkward kids that you really run into, Fast Times really
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: delivers that too. And I can see, I mean, it's
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: not written quite as sharp as Fast Times or Clueless
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: or other stuff that she did, but It definitely has
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: that feel of the way that she comes up with
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: characters and plot lines. And I don't know. What were
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on that?
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, I will just... As you're saying that, like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: we're able to compare it to so many different, like, ensembles.
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: And it makes me wonder, like, why this isn't just
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: automatically included in that canon.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: It should.
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: It totally should be. I mean, this... Like, if you're
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: looking for just basic... Because it is. It's just a
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: basic plot with, like... As, like, a guide for how to...
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: really manage like an ensemble and give everyone the time
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: and kind of, I don't know. This is the perfect example.
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: It's totally fits into all of those movies that we're
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: talking about. And yet it never is mentioned as, and
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: I know it's kind of silly because it's like, Oh,
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: it's summer school. And I, but I'm being really serious that, and,
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: and miles, you know, he, he gives me such a
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: hard time because he's not a huge fan. Summer school?
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I remember hearing that. And that's why when I talked
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: to Dean, I was like, if anybody's going to care,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: it's Katie. And that's how this episode came to be.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, if anybody wants to hear about, you know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: more about summer school, I went to you, you know, so.
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and it always blew my mind because
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: it's like, this is, it's a staple. Like, how do
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: you not, again, like we were saying, like, how do
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: you not like it? But also, how do you not
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: at least acknowledge that it's totally... Like, one of the
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: movies that made the formula.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: And kind of perfected it. I mean, it's a tight movie.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: It's not like it's long. I almost wish it were longer,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: which is, you know, kind of why I wish those
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: scenes were back in. Right. But it found a way
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: to do like a 90 minute runtime and still flesh
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: out All this ensemble of characters, and there's so many
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: movies that do that, and some of the ones you
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: mentioned are the ones that do it right. But there's
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of, I mean, think of how many bad
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: high school movies and how many straight-to-DVD movies that come
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: out trying to do the same thing and fail miserably
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: at it.
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: Miserably.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: And there's so many. So for this one to be
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: as successful at doing what is seemingly a simple thing,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: for them to do it as well as they do it,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: It gets lumped in there as a silly movie and
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't get as much credit as it probably deserves.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: I'm so happy that you agree. It's just insane.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: But I was thinking, if I'm going to critique it,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: if I'm going to come up with something to talk about,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: as I was saying, it's probably not as sharp as, like,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Amy's writing and those other ones. Granted, she's written some
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: stuff that's kind of off, too. But if you look at, like,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: the high school movies, like Fast Times and Clueless, they're
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: pretty damn smart. And they're pretty well pieced together. And
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: then you go to who we're left with here, Jeff Franklin,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: as screenwriter. Now, if you look at the rest of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: his resume, it's not... It's kind of stuff I wish
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: I could erase. Oh, really? And have no connection to this,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: because I was never really a huge fan of Full House.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean, really, just one of the guys
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: is a classic.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, now that one I was going to say. That
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: one is another one that I think does fit in,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: because the girl really doesn't have a whole lot of personality.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: There's not much for her to do. But you look
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: at the guy that she's obsessed with, could very easily
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: be in this cast of Summer School. And the little brother...
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: could very easily be any one of these guys. So
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: these side characters, you can definitely see that's kind of
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: that same way that they flesh out these side characters
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: and making them kind of more fun characters and you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: can see them fitting them in and working it into
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Summer School. Yeah, you look at, like, Hanging with Mr. Cooper.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: He went to do tons of TV, and that's what
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like happened, really. And probably why people look
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: at it as more silly than anything else is that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: it almost did get that TV treatment. Because, I mean,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: you were saying you were watching it on regular cable,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: you know, regular TV. So, aside from you take out, like,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: The cursing scene in the classroom. And maybe a couple
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: of the little snippets of the gory stuff at the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: end there. But other than that, you really don't have
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: to take anything out. I mean, it's pretty safe. It's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: like they crossed the line a few little areas. But
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: it still feels like it's probably the best TV writing
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: can get. It's almost like the 30 Rock of the 80s.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Oh my god! People look at that now as like
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: the ultimate version of network TV writing. as funny as
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: you can get, and still have to conform to the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: way that television works. And people are like, oh, well,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: 30 Rock, that's kind of what I feel like this is.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: It still fits into the parameters of, you're not going
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: to piss your grandmother off with this movie, but at
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: the same time, it's smart, and it delivers stuff that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: most movies like this, this cliche, wouldn't bother to do.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, that's kind of what I was
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: coming up with. It falls into that TV treatment that
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Jeff Franklin seems like he went on to do Nothing
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: but that.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: That's really interesting. I mean, maybe that is also one
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: of the things that factored in with it being kind
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: of like more of a silly movie and not one
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: of these staples.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: Maybe that could be... I don't know.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: It may be. It may be. Why? Because it's not
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: quite pushing the envelope. You look at, like, Fast Times.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: That's a lot more hardcore about some of the stuff.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: It takes it a little grittier. Right. And maybe that's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: why people go to that as, like, a real high
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: school movie.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Whereas with summer school, it still feels like almost this
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: fantasy high school. I mean, you live in that general area.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Is every day like this for you? Yeah, you know, what? Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Totally. Because I'm going to be a little pissed at you.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Because you know what? Every day is not like that
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: for me. And it sure as hell wasn't in high school.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we just, in between classes, we rollerblade down the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: boardwalk and.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: On the way to go surf.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: On the way to go surf, which we do on
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: our lunch breaks and.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: You go cruising around with the top down every day.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: I do have to say, and some of that I'm exaggerating,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: but my elementary school, I went to Newport Beach Elementary,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: and the school has been around for over 100 years.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: The school is actually located on the beach, and they
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: still do this, which is crazy, but also crazy awesome,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: is if there's a whale swimming by, they pull all
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: of the kids out of class immediately. take them onto
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: the blacktop, and they let the kids watch the whale
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: swim by.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Well, we do that here. I mean, right?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay. I didn't know.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, any time a whale swims down the Ohio River,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: we go out and look at it. Now, granted, I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: haven't run into that situation in a while, but I'm
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: sure that happens all the time. Okay. Most schools do that.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: Well, then, my bad. It's just business as usual over here.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, once again... The evil jealousy.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: That makes you feel any better. It's like really lame
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: weather right now and very cold.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have that most.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Of the time.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that's kind of true.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: You're not getting bonus points on that.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: Dang it. You guys do have the theaters, though, where
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: you can drink beer, do you not?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: This isn't Paris. A glass of beer. No, not that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: I'm aware of.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: I just assume that everyone except for me has that now.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think we have anything like that. I mean,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: we've had, like, specific shows. There's one that used to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: have it at a bar. But other than that, again,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: it's all, like, whore-ish chains. So, you know, they're busy
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: pushing popcorn. They don't have time for beer. Which actually
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: makes no sense at all. Really, if anything makes money,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: it's beer, so you'd think they'd work that in.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: That's why Alamo Draft House is the best thing that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: ever happened.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: That's what I was just going to say. It's all
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: the draft houses, and they've tapped into that market. But sadly,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: and well, everyone I know here wants to have a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: draft house, but I don't know that we would support it.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: People are so... I mean, if you don't have that town,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: you can't necessarily get people behind it. I mean, you
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: have people that are so used to the boring, straight-laced,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: mainstream theater... And then their boring sports bar mentality. I mean,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: those are two separate things and they don't put them together.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: So if you don't have the people that can get
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: behind that and see how cool that element is, then
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: it's probably.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: Going to go under.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: So maybe we need to write like a cool dude
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: style letter to someone, like a congressman.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: If you can just, you know, get the money together,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I'll throw one together, but yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: Oh, okay.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Well, you're in charge of fundraising.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: So I'm, I'm, I'm killer at bake sales. Awesome. So
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: I'll do a couple of cake walks and, uh, This
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: sounds pretty good. Wash some cars.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, montage. Bake sale and car wash montage. That's what
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: we're missing. We didn't have that in this movie.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: Because people love soapy cake.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't say you had to put them together.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I went there.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: You know, it's original. It takes it in a new direction.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: You shove the cake into their windshield and then they
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: have to get a car wash.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's washing the car with the cake.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: You're scamming them in. You just smear some cake all
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: over the car, and then you're like, oh, and we
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: offer a car wash. Oh, it's going to be awesome.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: So back to our cheesy movie.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Miners drinking on the beach.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Seriously, we never do this. Boy, never, ever.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: There's our English teacher.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Let's ask him.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: Mr. Soup, sir, could you come here just a moment, please?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys. Hi.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Hi.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: What's up?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Found these boys in possession of alcohol.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: That alcohol officer?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's not theirs.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: Whose is it?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 12: It's mine.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: See, I live in that house right there, and they
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: were just watching my stuff.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: It's his. We should have never taken those little baby sips.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: That was wrong.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: God, so very, very wrong.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I think they learned one hell of a lesson, officer.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: We were mentioning the realism, like, you know, compared to
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: those other movies, but they actually put it in this movie.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: And again, maybe it's Carl Reiner. Maybe he's just... has
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: dealt with comedy so much over the years that he
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: kind of knows... when to not take it too far.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Because I'm looking at what's going on here, and it's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: like they have teen pregnancy, dyslexia, underage drinking. I mean,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: you name it, they have every one of those moments
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: crammed in here. But it still stays fun. They touch
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: upon it, and they kind of insert a little realism.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: It's like this is all the real world, so this
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff goes on. But if you gave it
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: to the wrong person, this could be very heavy-handed. I mean,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: you could get to the point of a bad after
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: school special mashup kind of thing with all of these
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: crammed in. And think about it. Think about it. I mean,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: and again, that's how so many of these go wrong
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: with it is they become like really hammering you over
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: the head with this message of, you know, what's bad
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: going on in this school. And they kind of don't
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: hear it. And that's what's funny is because it does
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: at least have a little reality, you know, as silly
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: as it is again. But I mean, because I'm watching these.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: kids drink on the beach, and I'm like, well, yeah,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: that's what kids do, actually. If I remember high school,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: kids would go get drunk at any given chance, so
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: that feels real. It's like, I think it's weird when
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: movies kind of back off and don't do that stuff. So,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: to me, it's a fine line. It always seems really
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: weird if they're like in this Disney world where there's no...
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Nobody's screwing around. Nobody's getting pregnant in high school. Nobody's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: drinking in high school. It's all this fictional school. Everything's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: squeaky clean.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: But then it's a fine line to walk when you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: start shoving the issues down people's throat. And this movie
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: skates it. And it interesting... all these heavy-handed ideas, but
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: then finds a way to back off, and it never
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: does anything that's not just funny. You know, it's always
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: very light in tone while dealing with things that are,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: you know, there's nothing funnier than dyslexia.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is kind of crazy.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's... weird.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's really classy. They handled it in a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: really classy way. Oh, man. I didn't even mean to
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: make that pun, but I'm glad.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 13: That I did.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, that makes it even worse.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: I know, right? Even the stuff with Pam or Courtney Thorne-Smith,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: when he has to kind of say, oh, no, this
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: isn't going to happen between us. It's not like an
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: after-school special moment, but I totally agree. You're absolutely right. Definitely,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: if someone else was doing it, I could see where
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: it would go that way.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Or it really could have gone down a much darker
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: road there. I mean, if all of a sudden he's
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: nailing a student, yeah, that could take a very different tone.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Whereas here, it never hits that. I mean, even when...
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: blatant as she is. I mean, you ever do that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: with one of your students?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Man, that Courtney, she's subtle, isn't she? But no, I mean,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: he plays it off so he's like, I swim hundreds
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: of miles, I'm ready for a nap. And they immediately
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: go back into one of those jokes that, like, pulls
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: it back again. It takes it away from that weird
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: area and he gets up and he's like, alright, that's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: enough and let's leave the room and get out of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: this weird situation. And he backs it off and I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's in the writing or direction or
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: whoever was in charge of that part, but they back
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: away from that creepy territory again. So there's there's all
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: these little favors that get worked into the situation and
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: they could all be really weird and kind of gone
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: down a really dark path, but instead they find a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: way to keep it light and funny the entire time.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: You know, the other thing that, um, we didn't even
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: mention this yet, but like Kirstie Alley, I mean, I'm
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: kind of thinking that even if she wasn't in this,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: like her character at all, I think it would still
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: be a totally intact movie.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, I was.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: How do you feel like she really plays? Other than,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: I guess, pushing Shoop to keep going.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Well, in any movie, you know they have to cram
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: a love interest in there. So that always feels very forced.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Or at least in about 75% of movies, that feels
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: kind of forced.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: So this one is not really important. It just sort
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: of factors in at the end, whatever. But that's just
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: sort of there because... It's in every movie. In the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: book of screenwriting, it says to put it in there. Right.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: But as far as her as like a character, she
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: does sort of need to be there helping him. He
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't know how to teach. And she kind of provides that.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: And if there's anything kind of interesting in it, it's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: sort of the growth of Shu. And yeah, I know,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: you don't get a whole lot of growth in this
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: kind of story. But in the beginning, he's kind of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: okay with just being a screw-up, you know? And he
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't care about anything in his life. And then within
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: this one summer, he learns to care about his career,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: potentially this woman, but more important than that, all of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: these kids. He now actually cares about these kids. Like,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: you look at him when he's just the gym teacher.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't seem like he cared about any
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: of those guys at the beginning. He's just waiting to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: get out of school. But you look at, like, a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: few scenes later, he says, you know, some of these
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: are really good kids. And he starts to get to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: know them as people. And it's, yeah... I know sometimes
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: I read a little bit more into these than most
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: people want to, but I think there really is a
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: little bit of, he is sort of this kid that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: never grows up. And over the course of the summer,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: he's sort of forced to be the father figure and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: he's completely irresponsible at the beginning. And by the end,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: he's telling people, don't wreck my car. Don't set things
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: on fire. You know, he's a dad all of a sudden.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of interesting. And And more than
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: you would give this movie credit for. I mean, there's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: a little bit of character development here. So I think
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Kirstie was needed. I don't know if he could have
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: made that leap without someone there to help him and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: push him along. Right. So, yeah, she's just, you know,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: she's the Yoda.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: There to push him. It also doesn't say a lot
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: for gym teachers, does it?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: No, it really doesn't. I mean, he really is. I mean,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: what does it say? How long has he been in
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: the system that he's never really had to teach a class?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: He's never really had to interact with the kids, basically.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: He just stands around and do what they're supposed to do. But, yeah,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: it kind of paints gym teachers in a bad light.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: And maybe they were already getting that anyway.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: Maybe so. But it kind of makes me want to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: be a gym teacher. It sounds like a pretty sweet gig.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: Well, he does give that speech about wanting to be
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: a teacher, and I know a few now. So you
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: get that thought ahead of time of, all right, summer's off.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: This is going to be the best job ever.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Then you're knee deep into it and you're like, oh man,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: I don't make any money and I have to put
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: up with these bratty kids all day long. So if
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: you're thinking about going into teaching, keep that in mind beforehand.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, Kirstie Alley.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the thin Kirstie Alley. It's so funny to look
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: at her now when I know her as, for years,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: being this other version of Kirstie Alley. To go back
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: and see her... super thin. Like, she's really thin back
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: at this point.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she is. She's really tiny. It's hard for me
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: to kind of look at her now, because she has
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: made herself into a joke.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: And it's really sad, because all of the characters that
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: she's really, like, famous for are these very, like, headstrong
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: women who, I don't know, are just so the opposite
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: of what she, as a real person, ended up being.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: It just makes... I mean, other than like her health factor,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, which is sad to me, it makes it
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: so much more depressing to like see what she's kind
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: of devolved into.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: It is, but it seems like she was always just
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: sort of grasping for a career.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Like she never really found a signature role. Even though
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: she was on a sitcom for, like, what, six or
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: seven years? I mean, that whole last run of that series,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: she played the same character.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: But she never really gelled with any specific character, you know?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: She never became synonymous with that role or any roles.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, that kind of says something about her, that
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: she never really found herself as an actress, you know?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: She was always just looking to have a movie career
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: or a TV career, you know? So she would take
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: anything that came along. So when you see her physically
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: start to fall apart, it is kind of sad because
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: you see her almost go, oh, fat actress, I can
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: use that now. I can use this to my advantage
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: and make it my career again.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: It is kind of sad because I don't think she's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: a terrible actress, but it's like she just never quite
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: found herself.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: I think she's probably one of those, like the TV
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: grade style actresses that we were talking about because even–
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: Even Look Who's Talking, to me, that movie has always
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: felt like a TV movie. And I mean, I'm not
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: saying that it's bad or not fun to watch. I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: think it's really campy and that there is something there.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: But it never felt like a real, like a movie proper.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: No. Well, that's because it's such a lame idea. I mean,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: it's funny for a minute. To me, it's like about
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: a half an hour worth of material. And then they
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: have an hour and a half to fill. So that
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: was the problem, let alone three movies of it. Oh,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: my gosh.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: But there's dogs, though. But there's dogs.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: That makes it even funnier, because there's nothing funnier than
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: talking animals.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Based on the last few years of movies coming out,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: there's nothing funnier than talking animals.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: We've hit the ceiling.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: We can't do any better now. CGI and talking animals,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: what more do you want?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, I can't think of a single thing.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: Man. again, looking at this movie, it's like, if there
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: is anything, you know, it is another one of those
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: that really meshes with pop culture. Like, it really, when
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: you hear Shroop Delight, it's like, I'm Memorex. But it
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem forced. Like, you listen to people later that
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: get so much shit for, like, really forcing the pop
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: culture stuff in there. You look at, like, Kevin Williamson
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: or definitely Diablo Cody, and they got so much crap
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: for forcing it. Where this one, it's like, they work in,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure it's April Fresh. They work in
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: these lines. But it really does kind of come off, like, natural,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: and it does sort of like what these characters would say,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: or something that we worked into an everyday conversation, because
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: we do kind of say cheesy stuff like that as people.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I say that kind of stuff all the time.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: And I think in this, too, it happens so naturally,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: because the setting that they're in is kind of this cheesy, like,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: exaggeration of you know, like this beachy city. And so
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: when you get these kind of just sprinkles and cheesy lines,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: it doesn't take you out of like the moment at all.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: Whereas some of those other movies, it's, you're not, you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: don't feel like, okay, a kid who lives in this
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: town wouldn't be talking like this or, and they wouldn't
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: say it all the time and they wouldn't be saying
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: lines like this, but these characters, because it doesn't happen
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: that often, um, And because of where they are and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: kind of, yeah, like you were saying, like who they are,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: it makes total sense. And I think you always stay
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: in the moment with them. It never really, you're never like, no,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: that didn't feel right at all. Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think that's what it really is.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: And especially once you start working in Dave and Chainsaw stuff. So,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: you know, they're just overwhelmed with, like, you know, they're
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: making the Siskel and Ebert references. And at that point,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: this is sort of the start of the wave of
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: people sort of ripping them off and a lot of
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: other people doing these Siskel and Ebert references. But, I mean,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: it made sense for them. Their entire life revolved around movies. So,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: and again, for dorks that sit around talking about movies
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: all the time, I think it's a little different for us.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: But.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: It is funny watching this wave of people start doing that.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Here it still feels kind of natural. and it still
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: fits those characters. Where if you look at over the
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: next 10 years, another million people start doing Cisco neighbor jokes,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: it starts to feel really ham-fisted and really forced and overdone.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: So maybe it's just that this was so early on.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: But I think that this one still comes off kind
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: of natural, the way that it... Works in a lot
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: of this pop culture stuff.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: Absolutely.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: What else? Anything else we need to hit?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think if I missed anything. It is
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: pretty deep and, like you were saying, there's so many
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: layers of this movie.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: It's sad that there are. I mean, not even, again,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: I delve into the weird, you know, what's going on
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: in the plot line way more than most people care to.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: But I think if you just take it at face value...
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: And again, comedies are a hard sell for me, so
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: it's really got to deliver above and beyond what a
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: lot of normal comedies do, especially lately. They're just so
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: lame and so phoning in what's supposed to be funny.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: And I think you get to something like this, what
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: I find is so funny is all the little stuff.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: All those little moments of her getting caught up in
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: the seatbelt, or you've got Dave trying to steal his
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: fake ID back after the judge takes it. Like, that's...
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: it's the second and a half worth of something, but
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: all those put together is what makes this movie classic
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: and why I still can't find flaw in it. You know,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: how many years later, right? I think it's, you know,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: it's all those little moments. It's tiny little things like,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: is that your blood? I love that question. And that
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: woman delivering it, it's so good that I really attach
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: onto over the years. And there's plenty of movies that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: come back to, you know, years later, uh, And I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: rewatch it and I'm like, oh, God, this is awful.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Or it just doesn't hold up. But I don't feel
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: a moment of that in this movie. It's just solid
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: as far as writing and comedic performances and timing. It's
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: all just so well put together.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: And that– also that girl, Anna Marie, was that her name?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: She is totally– now that I'm thinking about it, she
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: reminds me of– gloria on modern family do you watch
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: family yeah actually she does i'm shocked at how good
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: that show is um i look.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Again there's a handful of shows that i watch period
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: anymore but that's one that i always try to kind
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: of make a point to watch because it's so impressive.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: Crazy but yeah she's totally gloria yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Kind of she was another one that was in a
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff at that time and like you would
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: see her pop up in movies and all the way
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: up through the mid 90s And she would always kind
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: of be that girl. She was just there to be
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: the cutesy girl with an accent and never really saw
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: much else come from her. I know she was in
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: one of the reanimator movies, but it's one of the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: ones I don't think I've watched. But I'm kind of
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: interested to see her do something else. But all the
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: comedies I've seen her in, she just sort of becomes
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: that cutesy girl again.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: That makes sense. She plays it well, so.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they knew what they were doing when they cast her.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, we gotta work in a bikini scene, you know.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Like, so she's only gonna be wearing... She'll be the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: bikini store girl, and she'll just work at the bikini store.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: And of course, being in the bikini store, you have
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: to showcase the merchandise. So, you know, she's gotta walk
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: around in a bikini in every scene.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: Oh, perfect. And at that point, the writers high-five and
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: they move on. Yes.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, they do. So, once again, for me to wrap
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: up and to illustrate how... ingrained this movie was in
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: my life again I saw it relatively early and I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: still lived at home at the time so I got
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: to the point of moving out and you know you
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: have to get all the things that you have to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: buy yourself to get your own place you're gonna have
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: your own kitchen you gotta have your own you know
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: stuff to go there so of course the first thing
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: I had to make sure that I had was a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: fish shaped potholder and I had it and dork that
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: I was I was so thrilled with it that I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: never even used it. I hung it on the wall. Oh, man.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: Talk about a geek activity. That is wow.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: I hung it on the wall.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: For all time.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: I was pretty proud of that.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: Oh, that is outstanding.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: Now you're jealous.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: I am a little bit. I'm going to eBay immediately
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: after this.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: I would hope you would have at least one. I mean,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Courtney had two. I'm jealous. gosh so once again that's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: how ingrained this movie became on my consciousness over.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: The years that's really impressive i don't have any of
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: that but i i do make reference to this movie
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: on a i don't know multiple times a day usually.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah i there's hardly a day that goes by that
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: i don't say tension breaker had to be done If
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: anybody gets it, and what's worse is half the time
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: there's not even anybody else there. I'll be saying it
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: to my dog or something, but it's rare that a
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: day goes by that I don't say, Tension Breaker had
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: to be done.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: And it's so easy to do because this movie is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: full of those awesome lines that can fit in anywhere.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Almost entirely quotable lines. I mean, I was looking through
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: it and I'm like, I love that joke. I love
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: that joke. And it's like an entire script made up
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: of awesome quotable lines and it's it's impressive that once
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: again it's it's held up this well you know years
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: later coming back and watching it although well there's this
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: and it's very dated but i have to ask you
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: i mean so you're a girl uh which way do
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: you go david lee roth or sean pin.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: Oh wow I don't know, I still think that kind
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: of works.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: It's funny, but now it's such an 80s joke.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: It's funny because the time that has passed. No, totally.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Because now you just look and go, oh, God, look
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: at both of them now.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty bad.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Especially David Lee Roth.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's like, I guess, you kind of have
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: to go with Sean Penn.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: But it's one of those guys.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: At least he has a career. Yeah. At least he's respected.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, David Lee Roth, I mean, shit, he was
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: a mess then, he's.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: A mess now.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: It was a lateral move at this.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: He's consistent.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: I guess you gotta at least be impressed that, you know,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Spicoli is now a multiple Academy Award nominated actor.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at least he's got a stellar career
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: to speak of. Yeah. Still seems kind of like a jerk,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: but whatever. And that was the only thing looking back,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, it really is kind of timeless. I mean,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: and maybe because it's in this sort of fictional school,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: or maybe it's just, to me, it feels like this
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: fantasy school, but.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: I think you could still show it to kids now,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: and they would still get it. I mean, with the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: exception of that line.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Most of it. Okay, the cheesy music. Now, granted, I
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: like a lot of the music, but it's definitely very
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: 80s music. But other than that, I think it still
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: comes off pretty timeless as far as comedy goes.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. I agree. I don't think anything is lost.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's held up amazingly well.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: And I think we've gotten... quite a bit out of
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: a cheesy movie like summer school. I think so. So
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: anything else you want to say to wrap this up?
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: Um, yeah, I don't know. Only that if you, yeah,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: if you've never seen, you've never seen summer school before,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: you are not, I don't know. You're just doing a
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: disservice to yourself. It's, it's such good fun. It's quick.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: It goes by too fast. Like we were saying, and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: like you're depriving yourself of so many like one liners
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: that you can fit into anything.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: But I will say, if you have a problem with
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: dog spit, if you have a problem with human saliva
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: mixing with dog saliva.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, the infamous peanut butter scene.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: And then you get a nice full-on mouth kiss by
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: the end of it.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Pretty big on Wonder Mutt, but I don't know about
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: the full tongue kiss that he gives.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: That's probably the most hardcore.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: It is, actually. He doesn't get near as hardcore with
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: Kirstie Alley as he does with Wondermutt.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: But that's kind of great, too, because you're like, you
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: know what? We know where that mouth has been.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: And yeah, this is more of a shot at Kirstie
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: than anything else. But I mean, truthfully, Wondermutt has a
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: lot more charm than Kirstie Alley. He has a hell
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: of a lot more personality.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: Oh, zing.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: What do you want? I like Wondermutt. No, I mean,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: I agree. I totally agree.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: But yeah, everyone needs to see it. This is something
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: that you should own and reference constantly. Yep.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: And even they have a huge From Here to Eternity reference.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: And how would you expect that in this movie? As
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: silly as it is that they do that entire scene
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: on the beach. But that was another thing I just
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: read that he was also wearing the exact shirt, like
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: the same style and manufacture and model that Burt Lancaster
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: is wearing in the scene in From Here to Eternity.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: That's how hardcore they were in doing this little tribute
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: to a big, you know, sappy war movie. Yeah, it's
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: just funny. It ends up here in summer school.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: I think that's really charming because it's just like, wow, you,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: you're geeks and you're writing for geeks about geeks. And
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: that's nice.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: And it's done so subtly. I mean, it's, it's not
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: over the top, like again, a lot, of comedies now
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: just beat you over the head with it. It's that
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: one shot that's pretty much it. And the rest of
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: it could just be, you know, a normal scene on
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: the beach. And again, if you show it to kids now,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: they have no idea that you're even referencing anything. Right.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: No kid is seen from here to eternity. So once again,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: it doesn't even take away from the scene itself. It's
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: just funny that a movie like this is paying tribute
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: to from here to eternity.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: Another reason to love it.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Yes there are many countless settle down wonder what all
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: right with that we will take a break and come
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: back with the rest of the show.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: I'm sober now that's good for today we.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 7: Live No sense of time.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: Or their own limitations.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: Inside a world.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 10: Of formulas and equations.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: Where our tomorrow is already.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: There Show starts in four minutes.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 14: Universal Pictures presents.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: Everything you always wanted to do in high school with
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: everyone you always wanted.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: To do it with. Hey, bud, let's party. They're the
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: students of Ridgemont High.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: Brad Hamilton, the fast food king.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: I shall serve no fries before their time. It says
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: 100% guaranteed, you moron. Mister, if you don't shut up,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: I'm going to kick 100% of your ass. Charles Jefferson.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: A man with a mission. Oh, gnarly! Linda Barrett. Not
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: exactly the girl next door.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Awesome!
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: Totally awesome!
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: And Jeff surfs up Spicoli.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 15: People on moods should not drive. That was my skull!
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: I'm so wasted!
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: See Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Well, I love the movies.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 14: Welcome to the biggest movie event of the year.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to.
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  Speaker 6: Have a great night, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 5: And the Oscar goes to.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: And the Oscar goes to... Nick Ledger.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, prepare yourselves. It's time for the third
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 8: annual Movie Meltdown Oscar Meyer Party. With all the glitz, glamour,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 8: poor products, and vicious commentary you've come to know and love,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: the Academy Awards will never be the same.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Bacon tastes good.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: Paw chops taste good.
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  Speaker 8: Coming soon to this feed. Don't miss it. Oscar Meltdown 3D.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: It's going to be artery-clocking good.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: It's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: enough movies.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: on with the show.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Pup, calm down.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: I didn't know we were going to have a guest star.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: I know. He chimes in all too often.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: I'm quite familiar with him.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: I feel like he's heard enough.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: He too feels like a cast member.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 11: Pup, come on.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Alright, we're back. Okay, kids, get out your Dakota pins.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: At this point, somebody has to do a big fanfare,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: so that's your job.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: Uh, um, uh, uh, okay.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: All right, that's good. I kind of just wanted to
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: see that reaction. Because no matter how many times I
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: do it with my own people who know that it's coming,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: it still comes out different every time. Great. It's always
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: a train wreck every time, and I kind of like that.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: So I kind of wanted to throw that out there
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: and see once again how it turned out. Fantastic. It
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: is time for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle reveal of
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: an upcoming feature. Again, we've gotten so... It's all sort
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: of gone off the rails at this point, so I
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: don't even pinpoint exactly what's next, because I don't even
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: know what's coming next. But at least, you know, if
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: you're playing the Movie Meltdown home game, I like to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: give you a good idea of where we're going and
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: a few DVDs to go pick up or throw on
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: your Netflix queue or whatever. So I at least like
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: to throw it out there so you can, you know,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: have a chance to get it and Whatever way you
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: see fit. So the new one I wanted to throw
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: out there, I mentioned it a few episodes back. In
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: the near future, we'll probably be watching Martin. Are you
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: familiar with Martin?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: The vampire film? Yeah. Oh, I love that movie. That
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: was a couple years ago for the Spooktacular, I think.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: That made its way, and it's a great movie. I
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: remember being shocked at how much I loved it. Yeah.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: It was one of those that totally caught me off guard.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Years ago, it was a long time ago, I think
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: it was one of those I ran into an old
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: VHS in an old video store and was just like, huh, Romero, okay,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: and just watched it and was really caught off guard.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: how much I liked it. And a week before I
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: talked to Dean, I actually did an interview with the
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: actor himself, the guy who plays Martin.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: And again, I was supposed to be asking him about
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of movies, but I spent half of the
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: time I talked to him talking about Martin. I was
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: just so, what about this? What about this? I went
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: on and on about anything Martin-related. So, yeah, we're definitely
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: going to have to work all that into one big
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: Martin episode.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: That's exciting. I mean, that movie is so unexpected. Wow. No,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: that's awesome.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very original, especially for a movie at that time,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: and it really doesn't even fit the mold of any
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: type of movies.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 12: No, yeah.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty interesting movie to watch. So that
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: is coming in the near future. Okay, Katie, time for
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: your plug. So tell everybody where to find you out
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: there in the cold, cold internet.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: Oh, and it is so cold. So yeah, if you
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: would like to listen to Show Show, you can... Find
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: episodes of the show on iTunes. You can find it
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: at showshow.podomatic.com. And we're on Facebook. And Twitter-wise, you can
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: find Miles at showshowist and me at katiewinner. And I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: don't know. If you can't find us from one of
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: those things, then you're not looking hard enough. And we're
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: also always making random arguments and comments on Palover. which
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: everyone should go to as well.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: Ah, yes.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: That's what everyone loves to do. Make comments and arguments.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I don't know where stuff comes from
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: on that thing.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: But Miles and I start fighting when we don't even
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: know what's fighting on that thing.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: James.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: Forums are just an invitation for trouble i like that
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: we're on them but sometimes no i'm not in the
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: mood for i'm just like oh there's just gonna be drama.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: Pretty much i kind of let him handle it for
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: the most part and then when when a certain amount
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: of time goes by i i say you know i
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: should probably look into this and then when i do
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: i'm just like oh no i get fired up about
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: something and uh It's a dark road, but one that
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: we all must travel.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: I love having them, but sometimes they're a lot to
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: deal with. But hey, that having been said, stop by Paladin.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: You're not sold on it yet. Stop by and see
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: what sort of drama is going on on both of
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: our forums.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: But yeah, go ahead and get a hold of you guys.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: And anybody who hasn't listened to your show definitely needs
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: to check it out. And if you have any feedback
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: for this episode, just email it over. I'm sure you'll
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: have wonderful things to say about Katie. So, yeah, just
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: send them over, and I will forward it on to
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: her so she doesn't miss out.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: Oh, right.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, as far as, you know, I usually round it
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: out with a song. I was going to let you
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: in and take a vote, too. What sort of summer
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: school song would you like to go out on? I've
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: got one I'm leaning towards, but I didn't know if
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: you had, you know, a specific way you wanted to go.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: Do you have one that it's all going to fall
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: apart if we don't listen to it?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: No, I mean, I would, no, you should go with yours.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: Well, and going back and watching it again, I mean,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: there's a lot. I mean, specifically the happy song, I mean,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: it's amazing.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 6: Oingo Boingo.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Oingo Boingo, you can't go wrong with anyway. So that
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: sort of stands on its own. But I thought really
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: what sort of encapsulates the summer school mood as a movie.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: would be Mind Over Matter.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: Do you know how often that comes on my iPod?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: All the time.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: Beef and I sing that to each other sometimes as well.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: Which version, though?
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: My version.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: The one from the movie? Okay, because it's originally a
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Debbie Harry song. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. And
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: then Debbie Harry was supposed to be on the soundtrack, and...
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: There was some sort of legal problem, and E.G. Daly
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: replaced her. And I guess to make up for it,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: they do work in Rapture in one of the strip
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: club scenes. So yeah, I'm sure there was some sort
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: of legal drama going on in that too, but it's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: just interesting that originally it was supposed to be the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Debbie Harry version, and they replaced it. And truthfully, I
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: kind of prefer the E.G.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 8: Daly version.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: I love the E.G. Daly. No, I don't even like
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: knowing that there's any other kind.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: It's a little more, I went just, because I don't
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: know if I'd heard the Debbie Harry one. I went
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: and listened to it, and I'm like, it's very similar, actually.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're not paying attention, I don't know
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: how much you would notice. I mean, the music part
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: of it, like the vocal part of it, they deliver
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: it kind of the same. But the music itself, there's
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: definitely a lot more cheesiness to the EG Daily version.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: Which to me is kind of the charm of this song, so... Yeah,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: that's why I thought, I mean, it fits so well
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: to sum up this movie, because not only is it
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: about using your brain, which our characters triumphantly do by
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: the end, but it's got that 80s cheesy sound that
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: fits so well with this movie. So I thought, you know, together,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: we had to wrap up with that. Absolutely.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 6: No, go with this one. This is the song.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: It's good to know, though, it's already in your consciousness.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Once again, this movie worming its way into your everyday life.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: Every day, on your iPod.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: On my iPod. It's Shuffle, too. My iPod loves listening
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: to the song.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: iPods cheat. Shuffle's bullshit. It plays the same stuff over
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: and over again. I'm like, I know you've got a
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: thousand songs on there. Why do you feel the need
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: to play the same song again? That's not Shuffling.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: It's lazy.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm firing off an angry email to Apple.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: You should be thanking them, but.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: But either way, subject line, shuffle is bullshit.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: So anything else to wrap up this wonderful episode?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Thanks for having me on. This was
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: a lot of fun, and it's a movie that I
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 6: love so much, and I'm just really honored to be
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: a part of it.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: Definitely. Again, as I said, I'm posting my dorky picture
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: of Chainsaw and myself, and I'm thinking, who's going to care? Wait,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: nobody's going to care. And I thought the only person
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: who would really get some sort of level of, oh,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: my God, out of that photo was you.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad that I don't know more people that
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: fully appreciate summer school on that one.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: Well, maybe this episode will change all of that.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: I think it should. I think we've raised the consciousness
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: of just how impressive and well thought out this brilliant
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: script is.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: Even I can do that.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 14: No, you can't.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 6: You tried.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: I gave it a shot. What do you want? Well,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: I guess that about does it. We will return next week.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 12: Keep our feet on the right track. We're strong and
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 12: we never give up. People will talk, saying it's not
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 12: meant to be. But I think that we know differently.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 12: We're doing what can't be done. Mind over matter. There's
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 12: no battle that can't be won.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 14: Mind over matter.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 12: I never say die. We've got the right to satisfy.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 12: We're born to be so brave. Sometimes it feels like
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 12: we're losing out too. But we're the winners at two.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 12: We're doing what can't be done.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: Mind over matter.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 12: Mind over matter We never let dreams die out Mind
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 12: over matter We're doing what can't be done Mind over
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 12: matter Mind, mind, mind, mind Mind, mind, mind, mind People
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 12: will talk, saying it's not meant to be. But I
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 12: believe that we know differently what we're doing, what can
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 12: be done. Mind over mind. We're doing what can be
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 12: done Mind over matter There's a battle that can't be
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 12: won Mind over matter.
• 1:45:42
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• 1:45:44
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• 1:45:47
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