Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: John Hope Bryant Talks Dream Forward Event, Trump Tariffs, Financial Literacy, Economic Growth +More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:05Speaker 3: Everybody is the j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
- 0:09Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 0:11Speaker 3: in the building. Yes, indeed we have John Hopebrian. Welcome back, brother,
- 0:15Speaker 3: be here.
- 0:15Speaker 2: How you feeling bless if John O'Brien is it? I
- 0:18Speaker 2: mean that there's some good things.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Going on in the world.
- 0:20Speaker 2: First of all, you came gifts or bad. But at
- 0:23Speaker 2: least the things that are bad you can explain, especially
- 0:26Speaker 2: when it comes to some financial stuff.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Rainbows only follow storms. You cannot have a rainbow without
- 0:30Speaker 1: a storm. First scientific fact.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Actually, let's let's jump right into that. I was actually
- 0:34Speaker 3: thinking about you the other day. Shout out any socks
- 0:37Speaker 3: for us to socks.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought some gifts, so Walmart made these for us.
- 0:41Speaker 1: This is Green Socks Day. You can go online and
- 0:44Speaker 1: get them. They're April thirtieth. We've got the NBA, NFL,
- 0:50Speaker 1: thank you, Roger Goodell, and NASCAR, hockey, Major League Baseball,
- 0:55Speaker 1: major League soccer. I think that's all of them. We
- 0:57Speaker 1: have all of them. It's never happened before. All the
- 0:59Speaker 1: sports leagues are behind green socks. Day. So I'm asking
- 1:03Speaker 1: everybody to put a sock on and talk about financial literacy.
- 1:07Speaker 1: On April thirtieth, do something on financial literacy. Tag Green
- 1:11Speaker 1: Socks Day on your social media, Highlight a post, and
- 1:14Speaker 1: Nasdaq is going to feature the best posts on this
- 1:16Speaker 1: big board here in New York on April thirtieth. In
- 1:20Speaker 1: the ten top posts, We're going to fly him to
- 1:22Speaker 1: New York City. Let them ring the bell. The New
- 1:24Speaker 1: York stock has changed. So this is the way. You know,
- 1:28Speaker 1: people are arguing over black and white, red and blue.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Can we just agree on some green.
- 1:36Speaker 2: That's why the socks are green.
- 1:37Speaker 1: That's why, Yes, we want the whole country to come
- 1:39Speaker 1: together on April thirtieth, and this is Financial Literacy Month.
- 1:43Speaker 1: By the way I.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Was saying, I was thinking about just speaking of the country.
- 1:47Speaker 3: With all the tariffs that that Trump is putting on
- 1:49Speaker 3: the country, right, and you know people are looking to
- 1:51Speaker 3: purchase their force homes all, what what would.
- 1:54Speaker 4: You advise people to do?
- 1:55Speaker 3: Right, Because they're saying with the tariffs, they're saying the
- 1:56Speaker 3: price of materials are going to go up in price.
- 1:59Speaker 3: They're saying the price of cars and the parts are
- 2:02Speaker 3: gonna be shooting up what would you advise people to
- 2:04Speaker 3: do if they're looking for home ownership at this this
- 2:07Speaker 3: this point in their life, This is.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Gonna seem schizophrenic in my advice. I'm telling you in advance,
- 2:14Speaker 1: ignore the noise. First of all, this is just noise,
- 2:18Speaker 1: Just like DEI was a distraction, Like why are we
- 2:22Speaker 1: are getting overdi? Were fifth on the list? Why are
- 2:24Speaker 1: we the poster child for TI? Right? But they wanted
- 2:28Speaker 1: us to be the poster child Somebody did. Somebody wanted
- 2:31Speaker 1: black people to be because that triggers ratio overtones and
- 2:34Speaker 1: all that other kind of stuff. That wasn't even our fight.
- 2:38Speaker 1: This is not our fight. This is somebody else's problem
- 2:41Speaker 1: at the moment. This is like hitting if you want
- 2:44Speaker 1: to get in a fight. It's like hitting your face
- 2:48Speaker 1: on my fist if you want to fight. That's what
- 2:55Speaker 1: this is. This country is seventy percent consumer spending. Sorry,
- 2:59Speaker 1: the biggest acoutonomy on the planet America. We're twenty five
- 3:03Speaker 1: percent of the global economy. We're forty percent of global
- 3:06Speaker 1: wealth in the world. We're big ballists. Out of eight
- 3:11Speaker 1: billion people, it's only three to fifty million people, but
- 3:13Speaker 1: we lead the whole world. But seventy percent of economy.
- 3:16Speaker 1: It's not rich people, it's not big business. It's you
- 3:18Speaker 1: and me paying for car notes and mortgages and going
- 3:23Speaker 1: to get some coffee which didn't work outside. You know,
- 3:26Speaker 1: it's little stuff. It was a car service that brought
- 3:28Speaker 1: me here. It's a breakfast that we had this morning.
- 3:32Speaker 1: So this economy can't succeed without us succeeding, first of all.
- 3:37Speaker 1: So this party ultimately will pivot back to what's going
- 3:40Speaker 1: to drive the economy. Because this is a capitalist democracy,
- 3:44Speaker 1: big C, little D it's a free enterprise democracy. So
- 3:48Speaker 1: I tell people ignore the noise this stuff. If it's
- 3:51Speaker 1: not working, Washington's gonna have to pivot. There's a strategy
- 3:55Speaker 1: in Washington. I was at the Secretary of the Treasury
- 3:57Speaker 1: a couple days ago, who I actually like. I think
- 3:59Speaker 1: he's actually a decent guy.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Please break that down because I need to know what
- 4:02Speaker 2: the strategy. I don't understand it.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Well, no, no, I didn't say understood it. You're gone
- 4:08Speaker 1: too far. I said, Well, then, first of all, I said,
- 4:10Speaker 1: I like him, and he and I got to work
- 4:12Speaker 1: together on financial literacy. We don't you know, we're not
- 4:14Speaker 1: gonna agree on everything. I was with him for an hour.
- 4:16Speaker 1: I didn't break I didn't address this issue because his
- 4:18Speaker 1: boss has already made up his mind, and I know
- 4:20Speaker 1: I didn't want to put him in an uncomfortable situation
- 4:23Speaker 1: and ask him questions that he can't answer. Uh, this
- 4:26Speaker 1: has to play itself out. I mean, the country is
- 4:28Speaker 1: having one big colonic right dawn. So it's gonna take
- 4:31Speaker 1: as long as it will take. I don't think it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: gonna take very long. You're not talked about this, and
- 4:36Speaker 1: either he's writer or he's not. The only way terroifts work,
- 4:40Speaker 1: and I could break down what a tariff is, by
- 4:41Speaker 1: the way, most peoplen't understand it. The only way a
- 4:43Speaker 1: tariff works is if it's short term and it's tied
- 4:47Speaker 1: to you negotiating something from whoever you're trying to extract
- 4:50Speaker 1: something from another country. If it's your long term strategy
- 4:54Speaker 1: in a country that is consumer spending, it's a disaster
- 5:00Speaker 1: because it's a tax on you and me. I'm getting
- 5:03Speaker 1: ahead of myself.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Let me move the tariff.
- 5:05Speaker 4: For first of all, you ask you this question of yours,
- 5:08Speaker 4: you do the tariffs. So because that goes into this is.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Really important for your audience. I mean, because people run
- 5:14Speaker 1: through these titles. And I did. I did a podcast
- 5:16Speaker 1: on money and wealth last week. You went to the
- 5:17Speaker 1: roof just explaining like normal terms that people recession and
- 5:21Speaker 1: tariff and inflation. Nobody people assumeing people know this stuff.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Who's teaching anybody financial literacy? You're not dumb and you're
- 5:26Speaker 1: not stupid. Is what you don't know that you don't
- 5:29Speaker 1: know is killing you. But you think you know. A
- 5:32Speaker 1: tariff And as simple as I can describe, it is
- 5:36Speaker 1: a tax on American businesses and American consumers. So this
- 5:41Speaker 1: concept of I'm gonna you hit me. You're a China,
- 5:45Speaker 1: you're by the way, Russia didn't get a terror interesting, Uh,
- 5:49Speaker 1: your Russia, you're wherever India you hit me, I'm gonna
- 5:53Speaker 1: hit you back. No, A tariff might because the cost
- 5:58Speaker 1: of the thing has gone up. Might mean we find
- 6:01Speaker 1: Chinese goods less attractive, we find Indian goods less attractive
- 6:05Speaker 1: because what costs a dollar now costs a dollar eighty.
- 6:08Speaker 1: So maybe we say I don't want any more of that.
- 6:10Speaker 1: But the importer of the thing pays the pays the
- 6:15Speaker 1: tach is hard to get a straight face. The import
- 6:17Speaker 1: the American business pays the tax at the duty station,
- 6:23Speaker 1: and what is that importer going to do. What is
- 6:25Speaker 1: a big company going to do when they get hit
- 6:27Speaker 1: with higher prices that there's no fault of their own.
- 6:30Speaker 2: They increase.
- 6:30Speaker 1: It's common sense. This is a radical movement of common sense.
- 6:34Speaker 1: They pass that on to you and me, So our
- 6:37Speaker 1: prices of everything is going to go up unless in
- 6:42Speaker 1: a month he changes his mind again, which he's apt
- 6:45Speaker 1: to do and says I was just kidding. Now, let
- 6:48Speaker 1: me go one step further and tell you how this
- 6:52Speaker 1: the only way this could have worked. If he's saying
- 6:55Speaker 1: he wants to promote domestic production, he wants to bring
- 6:58Speaker 1: everything back home. Fair argument. Although American American American manufacturer
- 7:05Speaker 1: very good, American as a Mattriss manufacturing hub of old
- 7:09Speaker 1: school manufacturing ended in the nineteen seventies. That's why there's
- 7:12Speaker 1: more poor whites in America than poor anybody else, because
- 7:15Speaker 1: they had a high school education, hustle, and the jobs
- 7:18Speaker 1: that they were doing walked away. In nineteen forty nineteen fifty,
- 7:23Speaker 1: Detroit was the richest city in the world for automotive
- 7:29Speaker 1: in the world, richer than prayers, richer than their release.
- 7:32Speaker 1: That was one of the poorest because the business plan
- 7:35Speaker 1: from manufacturing walked away from America. It went to places
- 7:38Speaker 1: that were cheaper. Now we can be American. We can
- 7:40Speaker 1: be a manufacturing center today, but it's gonna be high
- 7:43Speaker 1: tech manufacturing. It's gonna be artificial and tight legends and robotics,
- 7:46Speaker 1: which you need education for. Back to the story. The
- 7:49Speaker 1: only way this would have worked is if the president said,
- 7:53Speaker 1: you know, a year before elected, get all the bankers together,
- 7:57Speaker 1: get all the fortune five hundred companies together, and look
- 7:59Speaker 1: you good, I'm gonna be president of the year. Just
- 8:02Speaker 1: believe me. What I need you to do. Go to
- 8:04Speaker 1: your boards, Go to your governance committees at the boards,
- 8:07Speaker 1: Go to your bankers who allocate capital. Go to Wall Street,
- 8:10Speaker 1: tell them I'm coming and tell them to put capital
- 8:13Speaker 1: aside for manufacturing at home. Also, because I'm gonna have Terrace. Also,
- 8:18Speaker 1: I need you to go to Stanton Island. I need
- 8:21Speaker 1: you to go to little towns in Cleveland. I need
- 8:25Speaker 1: you to go to Detroit, whatever and cut deals for land.
- 8:29Speaker 1: I'm just breaking this downright, and and get the cities
- 8:32Speaker 1: to support you and we By the way, you're gonna
- 8:33Speaker 1: need you get ai. You're gonna need a bunch of
- 8:36Speaker 1: energy to fuel these AI factors. You need to get
- 8:39Speaker 1: some uh you know, electricity and water, things generated. But
- 8:43Speaker 1: I need to get I'm gonna give you a year
- 8:44Speaker 1: because it's gonna be tens of billions of dollars in investment.
- 8:49Speaker 1: And know that I'm committed to this my whole presidency.
- 8:52Speaker 1: This is a new America. And the CEOs go, okay,
- 8:55Speaker 1: we're with you. We want to bring this back. And
- 8:57Speaker 1: by the way, what's what's what's in it for us?
- 8:58Speaker 1: And he has these economic mo shows blah blah blah
- 9:01Speaker 1: period of time, this is gonna be short term pain,
- 9:03Speaker 1: long term game. Okay, none of that happened, so there's
- 9:09Speaker 1: no way. I'm just look, I'm not four against. I'm
- 9:12Speaker 1: just saying I like math. It doesn't have an opinion.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Stevie, my friend Stevie Wanner can see this.
- 9:19Speaker 1: None of this is going to work long term because
- 9:23Speaker 1: there is no planning.
- 9:25Speaker 3: So you think, do you think this is a ploy
- 9:28Speaker 3: for Trump to get what he wants? You think it's
- 9:29Speaker 3: a short term play and not a long term play
- 9:31Speaker 3: when it comes to the stats.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I didn't say I understood it. I said I was
- 9:34Speaker 1: gonna explain it. Look, he's been talking about Terra since
- 9:37Speaker 1: nineteen eighty night go to interviews of him from nineteen eighties.
- 9:43Speaker 1: He's obsessed with it. I have no idea where he
- 9:45Speaker 1: got this from. It's like new math. My calculator works
- 9:49Speaker 1: pretty well. Unless he is the most intelligent being on
- 9:54Speaker 1: the planet, unless he has a whole new way of
- 9:56Speaker 1: viewing economics. I just don't understand it. I'm pretty good
- 9:59Speaker 1: at it. I just don't understand. That's why the markets
- 10:01Speaker 1: are in the tank. That's why you know, CEOs are
- 10:04Speaker 1: scratching their head. But no one wants to say anything
- 10:07Speaker 1: because you don't want to get on his bad side. Look,
- 10:09Speaker 1: I want him to win. I'll say it. He's my president.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Whatever the election is over, he's my president. I want
- 10:19Speaker 1: him to win because if he wins, if he loses.
- 10:23Speaker 1: So this, you know, trying to wish him well and
- 10:27Speaker 1: going to Louisiana hitting getting little the little dolls that
- 10:30Speaker 1: time kind of stuff. No, No, pray, pray for your president,
- 10:41Speaker 1: pray for your country. We're all in this thing together.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Like real talk. But and here's my way of thinking.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Talk without being offensive, Listen without being defensive, and always
- 10:52Speaker 1: leave even your adversary with their dignity, because if you don't,
- 10:56Speaker 1: they'll spend the rest of their life working to make
- 10:57Speaker 1: you miserable. It becomes personal. You got a step over
- 11:00Speaker 1: mess and not in it. He is the President of
- 11:03Speaker 1: the United States of America. He's as you can see
- 11:05Speaker 1: from the executive orders, he's incredibly powerful. He's not a king,
- 11:08Speaker 1: but he has incredible power. And we're going to see
- 11:11Speaker 1: that some of the stuff he's doing as a bridge
- 11:12Speaker 1: too far. It's gonna get reversed. But he has incredible
- 11:14Speaker 1: power with the pen. So we need to walk delicately here.
- 11:18Speaker 1: It's an interesting relationship. I was in a relationship years
- 11:22Speaker 1: and years ago, luckily a wonderful wife JJ. When I
- 11:26Speaker 1: was a kid, I was in a relationship with somebody
- 11:28Speaker 1: who was emotionally immature, which he didn't say much for me.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I picked her, but it was like an emotional Hangarnad.
- 11:38Speaker 1: But I was already in it, and I had to
- 11:41Speaker 1: really be careful. I put that hand Gernad back down
- 11:45Speaker 1: on the ground so it didn't explode and tear me up.
- 11:48Speaker 1: This is where we are. We have to be very
- 11:51Speaker 1: delicate about this situation, and we have to find some
- 11:55Speaker 1: way to help him feel like he won, like I
- 11:59Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but whatever in the next
- 12:01Speaker 1: thirty days, next forty five days. This is not sustainable.
- 12:05Speaker 1: We got to give him some out the country of
- 12:08Speaker 1: other leaders where he feels, yeah, my terror strategy won.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Otherwise this economy will slow and your prices will go up.
- 12:19Speaker 1: You already had inflation from the let's clear something else,
- 12:22Speaker 1: though it's too late for this. Biden created inflation ridiculously
- 12:28Speaker 1: completely wrong. In fact, it was Trump then the Republican
- 12:32Speaker 1: Democrat Congress and Biden. Everybody passed five six trillion dollars
- 12:39Speaker 1: worth of stimulus during the pandemic, so the economy didn't
- 12:41Speaker 1: stall because economy was going to stall when everybody was
- 12:45Speaker 1: in their houses. Because this consumer driven economy and that
- 12:49Speaker 1: plus the Federal Reserve, there's about six seven trillion dollars
- 12:52Speaker 1: actually more like nine to win the economy. That's where
- 12:54Speaker 1: the inflation came from. When you have an imbalance of
- 12:56Speaker 1: supply and demand, so you have too much supply money
- 13:00Speaker 1: the nine of the band, it inflates the cost of
- 13:05Speaker 1: things to.
- 13:05Speaker 2: All the stimulus checks in the PvP loans. Everybody loved
- 13:08Speaker 2: that part, that.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Part and it ain't going away, And I said, ain't
- 13:11Speaker 1: on purpose, because there's never been in the history DJ
- 13:15Speaker 1: in the history of the world, there's never been a
- 13:18Speaker 1: trillion dollars of stimulus by any government at any time ever.
- 13:24Speaker 1: And we did nine trillion. Let that sink in. So
- 13:28Speaker 1: how do you think how long you are you gonnaink
- 13:29Speaker 1: it's gonna take for that to work through your transmission system.
- 13:32Speaker 1: So of course we're lucky we don't have twelve percent
- 13:35Speaker 1: on inflation. We're lucky we don't have eighteen percent unemployment.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Like what Biden should have done, he should have come
- 13:40Speaker 1: in and said, I'm gonna be present for four years.
- 13:42Speaker 1: I'm your dude, I'm gonna stabilize everything, I'm gonna drop
- 13:45Speaker 1: the mic, I'm a bounce. I'm only here for four years.
- 13:47Speaker 1: That's what he should have done. He should have said
- 13:49Speaker 1: that up front and been done with his legacy. Would
- 13:51Speaker 1: have been fantastic. But you get in that office. I've
- 13:54Speaker 1: been an advisory for three US presidents. That's intoxicated. That power.
- 13:57Speaker 1: That power is intoxicate. You don't want to leave.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Really, ask you a question, do you think the government
- 14:01Speaker 4: will so?
- 14:02Speaker 1: Yes, you should buy a house. By the way, people
- 14:05Speaker 1: don't change your game, don't change your plan, change your mind.
- 14:09Speaker 1: This is this noise is going to ultimately go away.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Three things have never gone down the history of America
- 14:14Speaker 1: GDP Gross Domestic product, real estate's values, and stock market values.
- 14:19Speaker 1: They've gone up. There's a recession, it corrects above the line.
- 14:25Speaker 1: After the recession, it recedes. Recessions, recedes, and then corrects
- 14:28Speaker 1: above the line. Every time somebody might makes an emotional decision,
- 14:31Speaker 1: it's a bad one. Poor people sell in bad times.
- 14:36Speaker 1: What did Warren Buffett say? When people are afraid, be greedy?
- 14:39Speaker 1: When people are greedy, be afraid. Okay, you're about to say.
- 14:42Speaker 4: Something I was going to ask you.
- 14:43Speaker 3: I was going to say, you know, with that that
- 14:45Speaker 3: type of thinking, the prices of everything are going to
- 14:48Speaker 3: go up, right in the next couple of months.
- 14:50Speaker 4: We assume right, build and costs are expensive.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Interest rates might come down, by the way, metals and
- 14:55Speaker 1: all that. Right, you said, what about intro r They
- 14:57Speaker 1: might come down and inter.
- 14:58Speaker 4: Come on the same thing would cost which the pres
- 15:00Speaker 4: it is banking on. By the way, So if.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Somebody these houses and these properties, or they buy these cars,
- 15:05Speaker 3: and they boy these materials, and the prices are up
- 15:07Speaker 3: when this game that we're thinking that he's playing, which
- 15:09Speaker 3: is a short term game, changes back in a couple
- 15:11Speaker 3: of months and he takes these towers offs, and now
- 15:13Speaker 3: those goods are less money you bought when it was high.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Does that hurt help effect? Well, you're assuming the goods
- 15:20Speaker 3: are going to come back down in price.
- 15:21Speaker 4: If the tower's come off, shouldn't.
- 15:23Speaker 1: You're assuming that the price is going to back down.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Greed is an interesting thing. You know. There were during
- 15:31Speaker 1: the pandemic there were container companies, the ones who put
- 15:35Speaker 1: the stuff on ships, because we're all run through international trade.
- 15:39Speaker 1: By the way, twenty five percent of the US economy
- 15:41Speaker 1: is international trade. So there was container companies who were
- 15:45Speaker 1: found to be gorging, gouging prices for no good reason.
- 15:51Speaker 1: The prices had, Yeah, temporarily there was not enough of them,
- 15:56Speaker 1: and the prices went up. But then when they kept
- 15:58Speaker 1: the prices high big because it was you know, layering
- 16:03Speaker 1: their pockets. So and Bash or Andrew Jung says that
- 16:06Speaker 1: men and women fail for three reasons arrogance, pride, and greed.
- 16:10Speaker 1: And greed is the oldest thing on the book. The
- 16:12Speaker 1: only time Jesus Christ they ever got upset was when
- 16:15Speaker 1: he turned the table over the money changers in the temple.
- 16:17Speaker 1: That's the only time you get upset. So I think
- 16:21Speaker 1: that because we're the biggest economy in the world, because
- 16:23Speaker 1: it's consumer spending, because capitalists ultimately want to win, prices
- 16:27Speaker 1: will come down to meet the demand of the consumer.
- 16:31Speaker 1: But it's not going to be like flipping a switch
- 16:33Speaker 1: and with somebody in somebody in Washington things. In my
- 16:36Speaker 1: opinion that if you trigger a mild recession, this is
- 16:40Speaker 1: I don't agree with this. You trigger a mi out recession,
- 16:43Speaker 1: you can blame it on the other guy. I don't
- 16:45Speaker 1: agree with that either. I hope this is translating to
- 16:48Speaker 1: your audience when I say the other guy. You blame
- 16:50Speaker 1: it on the other guy, not the current president. You
- 16:54Speaker 1: then get the FED the lower interest rates, which by
- 16:57Speaker 1: the way, helps wealthy people like me but doesn't help
- 16:59Speaker 1: the average every day, and then the economy's booms and
- 17:07Speaker 1: you're golden for midterm elections. Some people believe that. I
- 17:12Speaker 1: just I just don't think that that's rational, and I
- 17:15Speaker 1: think the timing is gonna be all messed up. Even
- 17:17Speaker 1: if that did work, I don't think it's gonna work.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Here's the problem the White House. I've known none US presidents.
- 17:24Speaker 1: I've known twelve. I've worked with twelve Secretaries of the Treasury.
- 17:28Speaker 1: I've been an advisor for three US presidents both parties.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Have been honored by five from both parties. I've never
- 17:34Speaker 1: seen a White House where nine nine percent of people
- 17:36Speaker 1: are either sent to millionaires or billionaires the advisors. Now again,
- 17:42Speaker 1: I'm very wealthy, but I go to the hood once
- 17:44Speaker 1: a month. Yeah, intentionally. I tell my driver wherever I'm at,
- 17:50Speaker 1: take me, take me to wherever the hood is, and
- 17:52Speaker 1: they are all freaked out. I want to see it.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I want to see how we're living. I want to
- 17:56Speaker 1: see those check cashes and pay day long liverers. I
- 17:58Speaker 1: want to go get out and go into a grocery
- 17:59Speaker 1: store or convenienced. I want to listen what's up. I
- 18:02Speaker 1: want to listen to the I want to get in
- 18:03Speaker 1: then uber driver, you know, I want to get in
- 18:05Speaker 1: the taxi.
- 18:05Speaker 2: You want to talk to the people when people talk
- 18:07Speaker 2: about but never talk to that's right.
- 18:09Speaker 1: So if you are a cented millionaire one hundred million,
- 18:12Speaker 1: if you're a billionaire, you've been taking private travel for
- 18:17Speaker 1: twenty years now. When I go through I do Delta,
- 18:22Speaker 1: But when I go through, I'm with the coach for
- 18:23Speaker 1: all one hundred thousand Delta employees at operation. I was
- 18:26Speaker 1: on Delta yesterday. Now they picked me up at the curve,
- 18:29Speaker 1: do that whole thing. So it feels like private. But
- 18:32Speaker 1: by the way, I had to like three months ago,
- 18:35Speaker 1: something happened. My greeter wasn't there. I had to go
- 18:37Speaker 1: through the airport term. I was traumatized.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Cut it out, John.
- 18:45Speaker 4: Traumatized.
- 18:48Speaker 2: No.
- 18:49Speaker 1: I was like, where are these people, Where these people are,
- 18:51Speaker 1: where they're coming from, what they're doing? What? When are
- 18:56Speaker 1: the kids screaming? Why are the lady in here taking
- 18:59Speaker 1: her clothes off? No, I'm just sayingstation. Yeah. My point
- 19:08Speaker 1: is that I'm pretty normal, and I still to me
- 19:11Speaker 1: a minute to readjust to being in an airport term
- 19:15Speaker 1: because I hadn't been there in months. Imagine if you've
- 19:18Speaker 1: been taking private planes your whole life or the last
- 19:21Speaker 1: twenty years. I'm not hate I love it. By the way,
- 19:23Speaker 1: I one day I have private playing somebody else paid for.
- 19:25Speaker 1: You have.
- 19:26Speaker 2: People have no idea what's going on?
- 19:27Speaker 1: That's right. You've never been in a grocery stores, right,
- 19:29Speaker 1: You've never been no gas station. You even been to
- 19:31Speaker 1: a bus station. It's impossible.
- 19:34Speaker 4: You should fly Southwestern Spirit one time.
- 19:35Speaker 1: You're getting no. I'm good. But it's impossible to make
- 19:40Speaker 1: policy for the average person if you.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Don't understand not connected to them in any way. And
- 19:44Speaker 2: that's what I wanted to talk about, Like, I love
- 19:45Speaker 2: the conversation you were having, but I want to put
- 19:46Speaker 2: some boots on the ground with it. When you talk
- 19:48Speaker 2: about these working class people, the average everyday person living
- 19:51Speaker 2: check the chech, just trying to pay their rent, just
- 19:53Speaker 2: trying to buy groceries, what should they do in regards
- 19:56Speaker 2: to these tasks? Like could you tell you know you're
- 19:57Speaker 2: telling everybody else just to be cool and silace noise.
- 20:00Speaker 2: They don't have that luxury.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Oh no, this is our time. I mean, you can't
- 20:04Speaker 1: fall from the floor. Black folks, we've been in. Brown folks,
- 20:08Speaker 1: we've been We've been doing so much with so little
- 20:09Speaker 1: for so long. We can almost do anything with nothing.
- 20:12Speaker 1: I mean, a crisis for us is Tuesday. That's right,
- 20:15Speaker 1: We've been dealing with crisis. I mean, we wake up
- 20:17Speaker 1: in Christ this is actually our asset and our problem.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Before now it was just our problem. I wrote my
- 20:22Speaker 1: last book of financial literacy for all, which, by the way,
- 20:24Speaker 1: thanks for helping me launch. It's still number one a
- 20:27Speaker 1: year later. In business finance, not black just black history.
- 20:30Speaker 1: If something is business finans in the world. But two
- 20:32Speaker 1: books before was a book called the Memo, And in
- 20:36Speaker 1: the Memo I said, basically, there's something that is what
- 20:39Speaker 1: we don't know that we don't know. No one gave
- 20:40Speaker 1: us a memo on how the economy works, and I said,
- 20:42Speaker 1: there's three times of people. There's a surviving mindset, there's
- 20:46Speaker 1: a thriving mindset as a winning building mindset. Wealthy people
- 20:49Speaker 1: talk about their ideas. Poor people talk about other people.
- 20:53Speaker 1: So if you have a surviving mindset that the glass
- 20:56Speaker 1: is half empty, not half full, it's the same glass.
- 20:59Speaker 1: But whether you believe you can and whether you believe
- 21:01Speaker 1: you can't, you're right. So to your point, in a
- 21:03Speaker 1: normal environment, the surviving mindset is at a significant disadvantage
- 21:08Speaker 1: because your ability to hustle has no value whatsoever. Your
- 21:13Speaker 1: ability to avoid a bill or avoid a one eight
- 21:15Speaker 1: hundred number was at Chris Rock said, I don't know
- 21:18Speaker 1: if I want a one eight hundred number. I'm not
- 21:19Speaker 1: answering the phone as a bill collector. Our ability to maneuver.
- 21:22Speaker 1: The system has no value in a growing driving economy.
- 21:26Speaker 1: You got to build something, buy something, do something, roll
- 21:29Speaker 1: with something, understand something. But when things are tough, that
- 21:35Speaker 1: understanding is actually an asset. So now we need to
- 21:38Speaker 1: take that understanding, pull it forward and start doing basic stuff.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Go get yourself a term life insurance policy. You can
- 21:45Speaker 1: get it for ten bucks a month for a fifty
- 21:48Speaker 1: dollars if you're in good health. Twenty five thousand and
- 21:50Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars policy is little ten dollars a month
- 21:53Speaker 1: because I don't know how long you're gonna live, but
- 21:55Speaker 1: I dang sure to know you're gonna die. So there's
- 21:57Speaker 1: your generational wealth for one hundred bucks a month if
- 22:00Speaker 1: you're in good health. A million dollar policy DJ a
- 22:03Speaker 1: million dollar policy. There's your generational wealth right there. Go
- 22:06Speaker 1: get you a term life insurance policy. Create a will.
- 22:10Speaker 1: My mother's hid. She had a little inner will. She
- 22:13Speaker 1: worked an hourly job for thirty two years, and she
- 22:15Speaker 1: bought and sold in seven home. She had a credit
- 22:17Speaker 1: score of five eight fifty four when it went that
- 22:20Speaker 1: high she died. She had a million dollar networth in
- 22:22Speaker 1: her will was a poison pill. Anybody who pushes back
- 22:28Speaker 1: on this will is deleted from it. Crickets. Nobody said
- 22:32Speaker 1: anything but my mother worked an hourly job, had a
- 22:34Speaker 1: million dollar networks, which means anybody can do it. So
- 22:37Speaker 1: she had a will, she had a life insurance policy,
- 22:40Speaker 1: she got her earned income task credit. So what's that.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Anybody listening to this who make less than sixty thousand
- 22:47Speaker 1: dollars a year get EITC. If you make thirty eight
- 22:51Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, you listening to this, and you're
- 22:52Speaker 1: in a town anywhere, and you have three children, the
- 22:55Speaker 1: government owes you sixty five hundred dollars cash if you
- 22:59Speaker 1: never file. Is retroactive for three years. So anybody listening
- 23:02Speaker 1: to this who makes forty thousand dollars and goes, what
- 23:04Speaker 1: did he say? You have a check.
- 23:06Speaker 4: So that's two three children, No, no, any of the
- 23:09Speaker 4: word children.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Anybody makes sixty thousand dollars or less, you get a check.
- 23:12Speaker 1: The less money and the more kids, as long as
- 23:15Speaker 1: you're working, the bigger the check. So the sweet spot
- 23:19Speaker 1: thirty eight forty thousand dollars three kids. But if you
- 23:21Speaker 1: have forty five thousand dollars in one kid, you still
- 23:23Speaker 1: get a check. And one of the four Americans who
- 23:26Speaker 1: qualify for EITC never asked for it. That's twenty billion
- 23:29Speaker 1: dollars a year. That's not going away. Got you child
- 23:32Speaker 1: task credit Local. Everybody needs to become like it. We
- 23:35Speaker 1: need to become nosy. Everybody's reading the Constitution Bill of
- 23:38Speaker 1: Rights right now, Like, what's these executive orders? I want
- 23:41Speaker 1: you to learn about financial literacy now, this is your
- 23:43Speaker 1: time to surge. Whatever the city programs are, the state programs,
- 23:48Speaker 1: the federal programs. Banks do down payment assistance for poor
- 23:52Speaker 1: people dj envy. In fact, the worse it gets, the
- 23:54Speaker 1: more the more the banks want to dig in. So
- 23:56Speaker 1: a bank, an FDIC insured bank, if you can get
- 23:59Speaker 1: your score up, and we can help you do that
- 24:01Speaker 1: at Operation Hope. And that's the other thing you need
- 24:02Speaker 1: is get your credit score up. The banks will give
- 24:05Speaker 1: you ten thousand dollars and a grant. Plus undermarket mortgages.
- 24:10Speaker 1: So even though the mortgage a rich person might like me,
- 24:13Speaker 1: might be six and a half percent used to be
- 24:18Speaker 1: I got a two. I got a two point seven
- 24:19Speaker 1: percent moving down never I'll never get rid of that one.
- 24:22Speaker 1: But you can't get that anymore. But for community reinvestment
- 24:25Speaker 1: at cra you might get it for four percent five
- 24:29Speaker 1: percent plus you get a ten thousand dollars down payment
- 24:31Speaker 1: assistance grant that's only available to the least of these
- 24:34Speaker 1: God's children. But we don't know about it. So I
- 24:36Speaker 1: just now covered home ownership earned income task credit is
- 24:40Speaker 1: your down payment maybe for homeownership financials. Get your credit
- 24:44Speaker 1: score up. We have this meeting on April fourth, tomorrow,
- 24:48Speaker 1: a Dream four. We will talk about it. And we
- 24:51Speaker 1: got a business plan for Black America, business plan for
- 24:53Speaker 1: Latino America, business plan for women, a business plan for Asians,
- 24:56Speaker 1: a business plan for Native American Indians. I wrote them,
- 24:59Speaker 1: A business plans for poor whites rural America. I wrote
- 25:03Speaker 1: all the plans, and in one plan it shows that
- 25:06Speaker 1: if you rely on the government black people, first off,
- 25:11Speaker 1: you do nothing, our network will be zero by twenty
- 25:14Speaker 1: fifty three, not poor people, everybody. If Black Americans do nothing,
- 25:20Speaker 1: but what we're doing right now, just chilling net worth
- 25:23Speaker 1: by twenty fifty three is zero. If we rely on
- 25:26Speaker 1: the government, which we've been obsessing about since the Civil War.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Understand the Civil War, Understand Reconstruction, Understand the Civil Rights movement,
- 25:32Speaker 1: Understand the Second Reconstruction, I don't understand. Now, we're all up, uptight,
- 25:37Speaker 1: worked up about what's going on in Washington. Let's assume
- 25:40Speaker 1: they get a deathbed conversion and they decide they'd love
- 25:42Speaker 1: black people overnight. They gonna give us welfare, It'll give
- 25:45Speaker 1: us reparations. Everything that's not gonna happen. But no, but
- 25:49Speaker 1: it's worth three hundred billion to a maximum of six
- 25:51Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Now hold that number by twenty fifty three,
- 25:53Speaker 1: that's only twenty five years from now. If you raise
- 25:56Speaker 1: your credit score one hundred points, a lot of people
- 26:00Speaker 1: have the lowest credit score on average in America, six
- 26:02Speaker 1: to twenty, which means half of us wake up in
- 26:04Speaker 1: the morning locked out of the free enterprise system, can't
- 26:06Speaker 1: get a decent car loan. You go to the car dealership,
- 26:08Speaker 1: you get a Mercedes eighteen percent interest. It's out of Mercedes.
- 26:12Speaker 1: It's Mercedes payments, and it breaks down in four months
- 26:16Speaker 1: because the number one way they make money is maintenance
- 26:19Speaker 1: and finance department. They don't even make any money selling
- 26:21Speaker 1: the car. They wait if you to bring it back
- 26:23Speaker 1: to actual literacy. But if you get your credit score
- 26:24Speaker 1: up one hundred points, that's seven hundred and fifty billion
- 26:29Speaker 1: dollars by twenty fifty three. That's one hundred and fifty
- 26:32Speaker 1: billion dollars more than the best estimate of the government's assistance.
- 26:35Speaker 1: And we can do that by ourselves become homeowners. That's
- 26:38Speaker 1: eight hundred billion dollars separate from the seven d and
- 26:41Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars. That's one point five, give or take
- 26:44Speaker 1: trillion dollars. And that doesn't even require the government. We
- 26:49Speaker 1: can do this our salves. There's another trillion dollars on
- 26:52Speaker 1: buying businesses. Am I going too far too fast? They
- 26:57Speaker 1: got to do their research.
- 26:57Speaker 4: They break down is you know, there's tiers when it
- 27:01Speaker 4: comes to credit.
- 27:02Speaker 3: So like when you're saying, somebody go into a car
- 27:03Speaker 3: dealership and they're trying to buy he said, a Mercedes.
- 27:05Speaker 3: It's a mercy dealership, right, a mercy note. So if
- 27:08Speaker 3: your tier is four or five or six, forget about it.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Yep.
- 27:11Speaker 3: Credit rate if your car is usually four hundred dollars
- 27:14Speaker 3: a month is going to be eleven hundred dollars a month.
- 27:16Speaker 3: But if you have Tier one credit, you probably have
- 27:18Speaker 3: to put down less money and your not there's only
- 27:20Speaker 3: four money just based off your credit.
- 27:22Speaker 4: Same thing with home ownership.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Same thing with credit cards, that you buy the store,
- 27:25Speaker 3: whether it's Nordstrom, Sears, JC, Penny Macy.
- 27:27Speaker 4: So that's what he's saying. As far as the tiers
- 27:29Speaker 4: when it comes to credit.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go one step further. The place is where
- 27:32Speaker 1: we grow up. Check casher, next to a payday loan lender,
- 27:39Speaker 1: next to a rent own store, next to a title lender,
- 27:42Speaker 1: as in the title of your car. Yep, pawn shop,
- 27:46Speaker 1: liquor store right there, church down the street, the church,
- 27:51Speaker 1: your lovel therapist. They trying to make sure you don't
- 27:53Speaker 1: go craik cray once a week. Make sure you don't
- 27:55Speaker 1: go postal on Monday. All right. And by the way,
- 27:59Speaker 1: poor white same you go to a poor white real neighborhood,
- 28:04Speaker 1: check cash or pay day long line to rent their
- 28:05Speaker 1: own store, title in the liquor store, they just pray.
- 28:07Speaker 1: The church, they just pray differently. They're quietly loud.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Oh you got about the Fried Chicks bar too, yeah?
- 28:12Speaker 2: Carry out?
- 28:13Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, fast food. By the way, you lived
- 28:17Speaker 1: to sixty one years of age. I mapped every zip
- 28:19Speaker 1: code in America by credit score. You lived a sixty
- 28:22Speaker 1: one years of age in a five hundred credit score neighborhood,
- 28:26Speaker 1: you lived to eighty one years of age, fifteen minutes apart.
- 28:30Speaker 1: In a seven hundred credit score neighborhood, you live twenty
- 28:34Speaker 1: year longer life because of your credit score. And it's
- 28:38Speaker 1: not about the credit score, it's the trending indicators underneath
- 28:40Speaker 1: that hope, well being, faith, confidence, belief, optimism. What disease
- 28:45Speaker 1: is often diseased. Keep keep your stress level, so again,
- 28:49Speaker 1: surviving mindset. You have a surviving mindset. You're stressed out,
- 28:52Speaker 1: you're full of anxiety. If you hanging around nine bro people,
- 28:55Speaker 1: you'll be the tenth. You're up, you're toe up from
- 28:57Speaker 1: the flow up. You're gonna die early, and you're eating
- 28:59Speaker 1: bad food. So this is a game. Man, What did
- 29:03Speaker 1: Malcolm X say. We've been bamboozled, We've been tricked, we've
- 29:06Speaker 1: been food, we've been hoodwinked. Here's one for you. Everybody
- 29:11Speaker 1: wants to start a business. I love that. I've got
- 29:13Speaker 1: this thing called one million Black Business Initiative SHOPIFI put
- 29:16Speaker 1: up one hundred and thirty million dollars up to George
- 29:18Speaker 1: Flord's murder. They just announce it, putting up another sixty
- 29:20Speaker 1: million to help me get to one hundred and ninety
- 29:22Speaker 1: million because they can't be happier with all the businesses
- 29:26Speaker 1: that are black businesses that are now on the Shopifi platform.
- 29:28Speaker 1: It's not d and I is good business. By the way,
- 29:31Speaker 1: the president of Shopifi speaking at the Martin Luther King
- 29:34Speaker 1: Dream Florid Initiative, Harley Finkelstein, it's business for them, which
- 29:37Speaker 1: is which is.
- 29:38Speaker 2: What we want now, inclusive economics.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Inclusive economics, which you helped me pioneer, by the way.
- 29:43Speaker 1: So so okay, so stick with that for a minute.
- 29:45Speaker 1: So we at all these business business people. They want
- 29:47Speaker 1: to be business people now. They want to start a
- 29:48Speaker 1: pizzeria or something in I need fifty thousand dollars. You
- 29:52Speaker 1: do a GoFundMe or whatever it is, and you hustling.
- 29:55Speaker 1: It's in the bank. One give the money. They want
- 29:56Speaker 1: you to personally guarantee your house. All that stuff easier.
- 30:01Speaker 1: It is easier for somebody to go to Wall Street,
- 30:03Speaker 1: which is where we are, and get finance a twenty
- 30:06Speaker 1: million dollar business with non recourse debt, which means you
- 30:10Speaker 1: don't personally guarantee it, than it is to start a
- 30:12Speaker 1: pizzeria with one hundred thousand dollars loans from the bank.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Now that doesn't that to your audience sounds absolutely crazy.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Let me break it down. We have the first generation,
- 30:23Speaker 1: our generation where you're gonna have more people over sixty
- 30:26Speaker 1: five than underage than under eighteen. These are white, wealthy
- 30:31Speaker 1: baby boomers, all trying to go retire and play golf
- 30:35Speaker 1: at the same time. So there is a's about four
- 30:38Speaker 1: hundred three dollars of wealth in the world. About one
- 30:40Speaker 1: hundred and eighty treeing of that is in the one
- 30:42Speaker 1: hundred and eighty training that is in the United States.
- 30:44Speaker 1: About fifty training of that was created since twenty twenty.
- 30:47Speaker 1: I'm trying this is. These are this is are ridiculous numbers.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Fifty threeing of that was just created in the last
- 30:54Speaker 1: twenty five years. These baby boomers made a crapload of money.
- 30:58Speaker 1: They're bawling billionaire sent to millionaires. They want to go
- 31:01Speaker 1: play golf, they want to enjoy their life, they want
- 31:03Speaker 1: to be on their yacht. God bless them. They're all
- 31:05Speaker 1: leaving the stage at the same time. Forty percent of
- 31:08Speaker 1: this country is now black and brown. That's why everybody's nervous.
- 31:10Speaker 1: By the way, black and brown. He's the new interest
- 31:13Speaker 1: of the economy within ten years, it's going to be
- 31:14Speaker 1: a majority of minorities. By the way, A thirty economies
- 31:17Speaker 1: women seven trillion dollars. So it's black, brown women, right.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Some people are nervous about who's taken over. This is
- 31:24Speaker 1: a whole other conversation with this is fueling political the
- 31:28Speaker 1: political environment. By the way, in my opinion, which is
- 31:30Speaker 1: what you're singing in Washington, go back to the numbers.
- 31:33Speaker 1: So now, what's happening with this tree, the one hundred
- 31:36Speaker 1: tree and dollars with the word of wealth, DJ ANDV
- 31:38Speaker 1: is about to transition through inheritance in the next ten years.
- 31:43Speaker 1: The wives and the husbands and the kids wants the stocks,
- 31:47Speaker 1: the bonds, the cash and the houses. They don't want
- 31:51Speaker 1: the businesses. Elone, I'm good. I don't want I don't
- 31:57Speaker 1: understand it. I don't want to do it. I want
- 31:58Speaker 1: to go enjoy my life. Their generation makes it, taking
- 32:02Speaker 1: generation spends it, third generation loses it. But don't mind
- 32:05Speaker 1: me with the facts. I've already made up my mind.
- 32:07Speaker 1: I want the cash. That means there's about fifteen trillion dollars.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Please audience, listen to this. This is making smart sexy
- 32:16Speaker 1: on scale. Does fifteen trillion dollars are profitable, successful, branded
- 32:25Speaker 1: real estate, having client having nothing wrong with them, businesses
- 32:29Speaker 1: that nobody wants go buy them. They're already cash flowing.
- 32:35Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with them except the kids and the family.
- 32:39Speaker 4: Don't want them too comfortable.
- 32:41Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it's an opportunity,
- 32:43Speaker 1: that's what. So I think I started this by saying
- 32:46Speaker 1: rainbows after storms. You cannot have a rainbow that a storm. First,
- 32:49Speaker 1: don't look at a problem as a problem, look at
- 32:50Speaker 1: it as an opportunity. All capitalism is is solving problems.
- 32:56Speaker 1: So yes, it's going to get tight. We used to
- 33:00Speaker 1: type black folks are born on probation in the America.
- 33:04Speaker 1: You gotta be twice as smart, twice as intelligence, twice
- 33:06Speaker 1: as world dressed, get up twice as early, stave twice
- 33:08Speaker 1: as late, and worked twice as hard and hustle and
- 33:10Speaker 1: getting no credit for it. Okay, what else is new?
- 33:12Speaker 1: This is? This is our life story. Everybody else is
- 33:15Speaker 1: not used the problems. They're the ones that are going
- 33:17Speaker 1: to be dropping off of one story buildings. We're going
- 33:20Speaker 1: to counsel our white friends about calm down. This is
- 33:23Speaker 1: gonna be okay, so I'm actually quite optimistic about the future.
- 33:29Speaker 4: So what are you doing this weekend? You're doing something
- 33:31Speaker 4: specialist weekend.
- 33:32Speaker 2: Dream Forward, a virtual town on financial inclusion. That's why
- 33:35Speaker 2: I love John because you always have a solution, you know,
- 33:36Speaker 2: one any people that's just always constantly talking about problems
- 33:39Speaker 2: and trying to profit off the problems. He's creating solutions
- 33:42Speaker 2: to the problems.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So dream Forward, thank you, Dream Forward. What
- 33:47Speaker 1: you're what you're involved in, and I would love to
- 33:50Speaker 1: have all of you involved in, by the way, because
- 33:52Speaker 1: you're all voices for this generation. This is uh, this
- 33:56Speaker 1: is a meeting between Republicans and democrat We have Second
- 34:01Speaker 1: Senator Raphael Warnock, who is the fifth chap pastor of
- 34:05Speaker 1: Ebenezer Church and a Democratic Senator. We have Mick Molvaney,
- 34:08Speaker 1: former chief of staff for Trump. We have the black Pope,
- 34:13Speaker 1: Bishop T. D. Jakes. We have the man who was
- 34:16Speaker 1: on the balcony with Doctor King, Ambassador Andrew Young. We
- 34:18Speaker 1: have doctor King's daughter, Doctor Bernice A. King. She's a
- 34:21Speaker 1: great person. We've got the Mayor of Memphis, Paul Young,
- 34:24Speaker 1: who's black. Now, by the way, We've got uh, the
- 34:28Speaker 1: CEO of Walmart. We've got Doug McMillan, who's co chair
- 34:31Speaker 1: of Financial Legacy for All, which is doing the Green
- 34:34Speaker 1: Socks Day. By the way, we can talk about if
- 34:37Speaker 1: you want, d I. I'll be happy to talk about
- 34:39Speaker 1: that as well. People have misunderstood that as well, in
- 34:41Speaker 1: my opinion. We've got killer Mike t I Van Jones.
- 34:48Speaker 1: I'm just going off the top of my head here
- 34:51Speaker 1: Ray MacGuire of Mazar to sign a ducket who runs
- 34:54Speaker 1: a two trillion dollar company called t I a Kraft
- 34:57Speaker 1: which is just basically pension funds, all your pension funds
- 34:59Speaker 1: and of estimas a council probably with t I a Kraft.
- 35:02Speaker 1: It is an amazing lineup. I just talked to doctor
- 35:06Speaker 1: Ben Chavis this morning. There's one hundred delegates, Bounty, delegates
- 35:10Speaker 1: of Mark Morele, the National Urban League, everybody who you
- 35:13Speaker 1: think of or may or may not have known about
- 35:16Speaker 1: who is at the top of the mark. They are
- 35:19Speaker 1: going to be there. In fact that we just now
- 35:21Speaker 1: yesterday the dropping the drop the Mike keynote to walk
- 35:25Speaker 1: out the stage is Sam Altman, who is the Steve
- 35:28Speaker 1: Jobs of this generation. That's AI. So it is a
- 35:32Speaker 1: way to honor doctor King, not by just marching in
- 35:35Speaker 1: the streets but cutting business deals in the suites. It
- 35:38Speaker 1: is continuing his unfinished work of the Poor People's Campaign.
- 35:42Speaker 1: It is his last book. Wherever we go from here,
- 35:45Speaker 1: it's answering that with a dream forward and there's no complaining.
- 35:51Speaker 1: There's no politics, there's no whining, there's no talking about politicians.
- 35:56Speaker 1: This is about us moving forward for two hours, a
- 35:58Speaker 1: positive plan, and we're gonna leap. Tomorrow people will be
- 36:03Speaker 1: able to download the business plans we wrote and can
- 36:06Speaker 1: and you can have it. You can talk about at
- 36:08Speaker 1: the kitchen table, you can mark it up, change it.
- 36:11Speaker 1: But this is full transparency. We wrote a plan. Typically
- 36:15Speaker 1: this happens behind closed doors. We've written these plans and
- 36:17Speaker 1: they will be available to everybody as of tomorrow morning.
- 36:20Speaker 1: People can register at Operation dot org and actually listen
- 36:23Speaker 1: to the global town Hall. Roland Martin is gonna be
- 36:27Speaker 1: streaming it. You guys are gonna be there. We've gotten
- 36:30Speaker 1: I think that the Associated Press is gonna be there.
- 36:32Speaker 1: We have all the networks who have moderators part of it.
- 36:35Speaker 1: We've tried to be as inclusive as we can.
- 36:38Speaker 2: We should streaming Nick, we should screaming it. We thought
- 36:41Speaker 2: about it.
- 36:42Speaker 1: We got a video yesterday from from the new chairman
- 36:45Speaker 1: of the Senate Bank Committee. Uh, Tim Scott Brother, what
- 36:49Speaker 1: time it's It's one to three pm Eastern Standard time
- 36:53Speaker 1: April fourth today. Yeah, and it's noon to two Central
- 37:01Speaker 1: Standard time. Doctor King, by the way, was assassinated April fourth,
- 37:04Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, at six pm Central time. That's the
- 37:07Speaker 1: exact time he He actually had a pillow fight. Right
- 37:10Speaker 1: before he was assassinated. He had just relaxed, and he
- 37:14Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be He knew he was gonna
- 37:16Speaker 1: be killed. The night before. It was the only time
- 37:19Speaker 1: he ever collapsed on stage. He gave a speech called
- 37:22Speaker 1: the Mountaintop. I've been to the mountain. I've seen the mountaintop.
- 37:26Speaker 1: I may not get there with you. He knew it,
- 37:29Speaker 1: and he collapsed in his and Andrew Young and Jesse
- 37:32Speaker 1: Jackson's arms and others. And the next day they Andrew
- 37:36Speaker 1: Young tells me they had this incredible pillow pillow fight
- 37:39Speaker 1: in the hotel. Will be at the Lorraine Hotel, by
- 37:41Speaker 1: the way, I will tomorrow let me today. And he
- 37:46Speaker 1: just thought it was eerie that Doctor King was so
- 37:48Speaker 1: light and he walked on that balcony and the world changed.
- 37:55Speaker 1: And what nobody knows is later on the FBI told
- 37:58Speaker 1: and Basher Young instructions for the shooter was if you
- 38:02Speaker 1: if you missed, the dreamer killed the strategist. That's Andrew Young.
- 38:09Speaker 1: So he hasn't been able to sleep for all these years. Wow.
- 38:13Speaker 1: The guy who created the OSSI and it Harrietville for
- 38:16Speaker 1: black people in the world. Atlanta, Georgia is the only
- 38:18Speaker 1: international city in the South, five hundred and fifty million
- 38:22Speaker 1: dollar economy, the same size as Singapore, by the way,
- 38:24Speaker 1: so we proven we can build a world economy. The
- 38:27Speaker 1: guy who did that brought the Olympics to Atlanta, the
- 38:29Speaker 1: only mayor of it, mentored by doctor King. Can't sleep,
- 38:35Speaker 1: so we owe him a debt. We owe all the
- 38:38Speaker 1: heroes and heroes and leaders who came before us a debt.
- 38:41Speaker 1: We owe those who are trying to fight for our
- 38:43Speaker 1: civil rights now a debt to carry on this work
- 38:47Speaker 1: and not just to be about me, but to be
- 38:48Speaker 1: about we. This is you can't just be selfish anymore.
- 38:53Speaker 1: Like we have got to be about all of us,
- 38:55Speaker 1: and this is this is our time. If you want
- 38:57Speaker 1: to be a part of history, you want to feel
- 38:59Speaker 1: like your life really mattered. It's right now m hm
- 39:03Speaker 1: in my opinion, and there are answers to these questions.
- 39:07Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing that we talked about this morning.
- 39:09Speaker 1: That's rocket science.
- 39:11Speaker 3: Tune in tomorrow and forward on financial inclusion. And what's
- 39:16Speaker 3: the website again?
- 39:17Speaker 1: Uh? You can tune in at Operation Hope dot org
- 39:20Speaker 1: where you can register at Operation Hope dot org and
- 39:21Speaker 1: it will stream and hopefully the Breakfast Club and I heard,
- 39:25Speaker 1: by the way, is covering it. Black Information Network is
- 39:30Speaker 1: covering it. Uh, we have many many maybe platforms. Again,
- 39:33Speaker 1: Roland Martin is gonna be covering it, and we have
- 39:36Speaker 1: our own strength. If you get lost, just go to
- 39:38Speaker 1: Operation Hope dot org and you there'll be instructions there,
- 39:42Speaker 1: or just follow Charlottmane'll he'll, he'll be with us. Uh.
- 39:47Speaker 1: But but this is you know, this is this is
- 39:49Speaker 1: no time to be, This is no time to be.
- 39:52Speaker 1: I understand stress, and I understand this is serious. But
- 39:57Speaker 1: unless you just gonna give up, throw your hands up,
- 40:01Speaker 1: you might as well be positive about it. I can't
- 40:02Speaker 1: guarantee you that being positive is gonna make you succeed,
- 40:06Speaker 1: but I absolutely guarantee you the being negative is gonna
- 40:09Speaker 1: make you fail, absolutely, And these folks want you to
- 40:12Speaker 1: give up, by the way, they want you to throw
- 40:14Speaker 1: your hands up. That's why they did all this stuff
- 40:16Speaker 1: in the first sixty days, was to flood the system,
- 40:19Speaker 1: overwhelm you, so you throw your hands up and you
- 40:23Speaker 1: give up. No, no, we're not gonna give up. We're
- 40:25Speaker 1: gonna double down, and we're gonna be a north star.
- 40:30Speaker 1: What I want at this meeting is civility. I want
- 40:35Speaker 1: us to be civil. I want us to be inelegant.
- 40:38Speaker 1: I want us to be intelligent. I want us to
- 40:39Speaker 1: be thoughtful. Emmy university has already signed up to work
- 40:43Speaker 1: on the plan. They were so impressed with what we
- 40:46Speaker 1: were doing. Their economics department said, this is a great plan. We,
- 40:51Speaker 1: along with the clock Atlanta University Business School, will work
- 40:53Speaker 1: the builders out for six months between now in the
- 40:56Speaker 1: whole global forum in December, where we have another version
- 40:59Speaker 1: of the plan and everybody gets to participate in that.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Everybody but the one hundred delegates will get to participate
- 41:04Speaker 1: and help to shape the plan. So what's going to
- 41:07Speaker 1: be announced at the meeting is going to the framework
- 41:10Speaker 1: of the business plan. I talked a little bit about
- 41:13Speaker 1: that today I mentioned there's seven and fifty billion available
- 41:17Speaker 1: just for black This is the Black American plan through
- 41:19Speaker 1: credit score increases. We can do that ourselves. I'm doing
- 41:22Speaker 1: that at Operation Hope Creasing. Increasing credit score is fifty
- 41:24Speaker 1: to one hundred points. By the way, don't pay anybody
- 41:27Speaker 1: to raise your credits that you don't need that. We
- 41:29Speaker 1: do it for free. You can be a homeowner. Forty
- 41:32Speaker 1: four percent of Black people own a home, compared to
- 41:34Speaker 1: seventy five percent of our white counterparts. The number one
- 41:37Speaker 1: way you build wealth in America is homeownership. Brothers be
- 41:41Speaker 1: talking about oh job, Brian always talking about owner a home.
- 41:47Speaker 1: I don't own the home. The bank owns a home.
- 41:51Speaker 1: If you don't pay. In fact, if you don't pay,
- 41:55Speaker 1: if I own the home, if I loan you the money,
- 41:58Speaker 1: I'm on own the home. Like capitalism, we've got to
- 42:01Speaker 1: stop being emotional. Also man like capitalism is a gladiator sport.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Here's capitalism. This is a table. You're on one side, DJMIV,
- 42:10Speaker 1: I'm on the other. You're you're the capitalist, I'm the consumer.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Your job is to extract as much money from me
- 42:17Speaker 1: while giving me the least. My job is to pay
- 42:21Speaker 1: you the least while getting the most. This is my job,
- 42:26Speaker 1: and that is your job. And every successful negotiation is
- 42:30Speaker 1: where everybody leaves it slightly annoyed. That's a success. You know,
- 42:34Speaker 1: you've been in real estate. You know that to be true.
- 42:37Speaker 1: If somebody's too happy and somebody's too sad, somebody got
- 42:39Speaker 1: messed over. That's going into a car dealership in the hood. Right.
- 42:44Speaker 1: So it always drives me nuts when I hear these
- 42:47Speaker 1: artists talking about, oh, oh these I'm gonna go to
- 42:50Speaker 1: some taboo areas. Oh these jews in music business, they
- 42:54Speaker 1: robbing us. First of all, you weren't saying that when
- 42:57Speaker 1: you when they gave you a record contract. And this
- 42:59Speaker 1: is not the clans man, this is not this is
- 43:01Speaker 1: not nobody forced you to side a contract. You should
- 43:04Speaker 1: have got your attorney. It's that that person's job is
- 43:09Speaker 1: to negotiate the best possible deal for themselves. Their job
- 43:13Speaker 1: is not to give you anything. Their job is to
- 43:15Speaker 1: take every dollar they can off that table. Your job
- 43:18Speaker 1: is to read your contract and negotiating. And I don't
- 43:23Speaker 1: want to I just want to do music. Well, you're
- 43:24Speaker 1: about to get robbed. Quincy Jones told me God rest
- 43:29Speaker 1: his soul if you think you're in the music business
- 43:32Speaker 1: and you don't own music rights, publishing rights, or licensing
- 43:34Speaker 1: rights or some kind of rights. You're not in the
- 43:36Speaker 1: music business. You're a temporary performer. It's a music business.
- 43:41Speaker 1: It's the business of music. So your job is to
- 43:44Speaker 1: go to an attorney and read the contract, hab it reviewed,
- 43:47Speaker 1: come back with changes, redline notices. Charlemagne reads his contracts.
- 43:51Speaker 1: I know that. Go back, say no, I don't like
- 43:54Speaker 1: this part. I don't like that part. I don't want
- 43:56Speaker 1: that advance. That's a loan, that's what it is. It's
- 43:59Speaker 1: a loan negotiate. I want to do what they do
- 44:02Speaker 1: in the NFL. I want a signing bonus. I don't
- 44:04Speaker 1: want to loan renegotiate. But you can't come back four
- 44:08Speaker 1: years later because life didn't work out for you, and
- 44:12Speaker 1: then say you are racist all of a sudden. No, no, no, no,
- 44:15Speaker 1: that's a good negotiator. You should be applauding them. Actually,
- 44:18Speaker 1: they did their job. So I'm just trying to make
- 44:22Speaker 1: it plain like we have got to knock it off,
- 44:24Speaker 1: like we've got to when the rules are published in
- 44:27Speaker 1: the playing filler's level, we kill it. Look at you guys,
- 44:31Speaker 1: you're the biggest in the planet because you know what
- 44:33Speaker 1: you're doing. Sports, we kill it, the arts, entertainment, music,
- 44:41Speaker 1: we kill it. Faith, we kill it. Politics, even President
- 44:48Speaker 1: of the United States, we kill it. Obama, we went
- 44:51Speaker 1: to the top of the mark. Why can we do
- 44:53Speaker 1: it in capitalism? I mean, I'm just asking. It's not
- 44:59Speaker 1: like we did it ried and it didn't work. That's
- 45:02Speaker 1: why I started out with these numbers about the government.
- 45:03Speaker 1: We've been obsessing about the government. We've been at this
- 45:08Speaker 1: trough for too long. They're kicking us out. We should
- 45:11Speaker 1: want to leave. They're kicking us out. That's what the
- 45:14Speaker 1: that's what's happening in Washington. But we should have left
- 45:16Speaker 1: forty years ago to build our own that part. That's right.
- 45:21Speaker 3: Well, today it's going to be a financial inclusion Dream
- 45:25Speaker 3: Forward is a virtual town hall.
- 45:26Speaker 4: And we appreciate you for joining us. Ways, brother, thank
- 45:28Speaker 4: you so much.
- 45:29Speaker 1: I love you.
- 45:29Speaker 2: And make sure you subscribe to John O'Brien's podcast, the
- 45:32Speaker 2: Money and Wealth Podcast on the blackfact IEARTVEO podcast network.
- 45:35Speaker 2: You can get information like this.
- 45:36Speaker 1: By the way, time is by the way, it's top
- 45:38Speaker 1: five percent of all podcasts. I was stunned. I was
- 45:40Speaker 1: looking at it last night. It's number thirty two on
- 45:43Speaker 1: the Entrepreneurship podcast for Everybody love It on Apple and
- 45:46Speaker 1: it's top five percent. So our people really do want
- 45:50Speaker 1: to know, like how does this stuff work? Like they
- 45:52Speaker 1: really do. I had eight hundred million video views in
- 45:55Speaker 1: two years. Now, that's nothing to you, guys, but I'm
- 45:58Speaker 1: talking about some boring talking for money. So every and
- 46:06Speaker 1: every week something hits a million views, one of my
- 46:08Speaker 1: videos gets and people like you used to look at
- 46:11Speaker 1: it and it's like two thousand years, eight thousand years,
- 46:13Speaker 1: ten thousand years. People are people want to know how
- 46:15Speaker 1: this game worked. Tell me how this stuff works, Joan,
- 46:18Speaker 1: But no one's broke it down to him. They I
- 46:22Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what to see successful people.
- 46:26Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. I don't know if we're hiding.
- 46:27Speaker 1: I don't know if they're afraid. I don't I don't
- 46:30Speaker 1: know what it is. They want to keep it all
- 46:32Speaker 1: to themselves.
- 46:33Speaker 2: I was in, Uh, I can't And John's giving it
- 46:35Speaker 2: to people, not selling it to people. What a difference.
- 46:37Speaker 1: What did jay Z say, I'm giving you? His four
- 46:39Speaker 1: four four album was a financial literacy album. We're talking
- 46:42Speaker 1: to him about the way about a partnership with financial literacy.
- 46:44Speaker 1: He said, I'm giving you a million dollars or a
- 46:46Speaker 1: game for nine ninety nine. I'm giving you for no.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Ninety nine. I was at this meeting, which I can't
- 46:51Speaker 1: say what the meeting was, but it was a very
- 46:53Speaker 1: meeting of billionaires in Florida early last year, and I
- 46:58Speaker 1: couldn't figure out, why are these wealthy people we're discouraging
- 47:04Speaker 1: home ownership. I'm in this meeting and they don't. They
- 47:09Speaker 1: want everybody to rent, and they're trying to tell me
- 47:13Speaker 1: that people don't want to rent anymore. And I'm like, well,
- 47:15Speaker 1: you know, I was born at night, but not last night.
- 47:18Speaker 1: Like I read the newspaper and I read report and
- 47:21Speaker 1: I got data, and my data says that most people
- 47:23Speaker 1: actually want to own a home, they don't know how to.
- 47:26Speaker 1: And I think I figured it out because it makes
- 47:28Speaker 1: no sense to me that my rich friends would tell
- 47:30Speaker 1: you not to own a home, own a home. The
- 47:33Speaker 1: rich people telling you not to own a home, own
- 47:36Speaker 1: probably three by the way, this might be an interest,
- 47:42Speaker 1: by the way, it's just capitalism. I don't I'm not
- 47:44Speaker 1: I'm not hating them. When you think about uber Left,
- 47:46Speaker 1: I know. By the way, we partner with Uber. I
- 47:48Speaker 1: love I love Dana the dire of the guy who's
- 47:51Speaker 1: CEO that's renting you a ride. You can rent an
- 47:55Speaker 1: RV help me out here, you can rent, you can rent,
- 47:59Speaker 1: dang there anything. Now, it could be that people are saying,
- 48:01Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna own all the houses and
- 48:03Speaker 1: all the assets. Y'all just rent, Just rent your life.
- 48:07Speaker 1: You know your generation, you just want to we'll have fun. Fine,
- 48:10Speaker 1: if you want to be ignorant. Sorry, if you want
- 48:12Speaker 1: to be cool, you gon rent your life. We'll own it.
- 48:19Speaker 1: We'll take care. Don't worry about it. We'll take care
- 48:21Speaker 1: of it. By the way, I'm a landlord, but I
- 48:24Speaker 1: want you to move from rent to own. I don't
- 48:26Speaker 1: want you staying with me forever. I don't want you
- 48:28Speaker 1: working in McDonald's for your entire life. I would say Walmart.
- 48:31Speaker 1: But by the way, do you know that if you're
- 48:33Speaker 1: a if you're a general manager of a Walmart, you're
- 48:37Speaker 1: making a million dollars a year. Did you know that?
- 48:45Speaker 1: That's stunning to me? It is. If you're working one
- 48:48Speaker 1: of these big box retailers, you're making as much as
- 48:52Speaker 1: a million all the year. I almost passed out this
- 48:55Speaker 1: opportunity everywhere. People have got to become obsessed with financial
- 48:58Speaker 1: literacy and AI Literateye, everything is going to change by
- 49:02Speaker 1: twenty fifth, twenty thirty, sorry, by the next five years.
- 49:06Speaker 1: If you got a high school education and you lazy,
- 49:09Speaker 1: and you chilling, you messed up, you toe up from
- 49:12Speaker 1: the flow up, this world's gonna leave you absolutely behind.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Van Jones will be at the meeting said that ninety
- 49:18Speaker 1: nine percent of white people Black people don't know a
- 49:20Speaker 1: thing about AI, but nine nine percent of white people
- 49:23Speaker 1: don't know a thing about AI either. This is mutual discrimination.
- 49:28Speaker 1: And if you're an accountant, your job might be gone
- 49:31Speaker 1: because AI is going to remove it. If you're in
- 49:32Speaker 1: an attorney, your job might be gone. But if you
- 49:36Speaker 1: can master artificial intelligence, everything's going to change. You want
- 49:39Speaker 1: to ride the horse of how AI accounting is going
- 49:42Speaker 1: to be next, or law's going to be next, or
- 49:44Speaker 1: what you've seen robotics and automation technology completely transform radio
- 49:49Speaker 1: and media. So this stuff is changing underneath our feet.
- 49:52Speaker 1: If you're working at a CVS or a grocery store,
- 49:57Speaker 1: you went into one five years, AG go ten counter
- 50:02Speaker 1: clerks at the rest of the grocery store, one tester
- 50:05Speaker 1: line for self checkout. Go to the same grocery store today,
- 50:10Speaker 1: ten self checkouts. One teller tell me, I'm lying. Go
- 50:17Speaker 1: to cb as a Walgreens. You might not see a
- 50:20Speaker 1: teller all at all. Go to the go to the
- 50:22Speaker 1: go to the airport, and go to the fast food restaurant.
- 50:27Speaker 1: It's a tablet. It's happening right in front of us.
- 50:33Speaker 1: Folks have got to be obsessed about what we're talking
- 50:35Speaker 1: about here. Your life literally depends on it. And if
- 50:39Speaker 1: we master this, this country can't survive without black and
- 50:43Speaker 1: brown people and women. God has a sense of humor.
- 50:46Speaker 1: I'm done. When I was here last I said this,
- 50:48Speaker 1: but I'm gonna double down. It's never been in the
- 50:53Speaker 1: history of the world. You cannot be a global economy.
- 50:56Speaker 1: You cannot be the world leader unless you're the economic leader.
- 50:58Speaker 1: There's never been a power that was in the economic
- 51:01Speaker 1: power at the same time. Rome, France, Germany, whoever it was, Britain.
- 51:06Speaker 1: We're the world leader with the economic leader. There's never
- 51:09Speaker 1: been a situation where relied on the northeast to sustain that. Ever,
- 51:14Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty America was ninety percent white, not eighteen
- 51:19Speaker 1: fifty nineteen fifty. America is down incredibly diverse, and there's
- 51:25Speaker 1: not enough college educated, successful white men to drive GDP
- 51:29Speaker 1: Gross domestic product for the next twenty years. There's just
- 51:34Speaker 1: not enough of them. I want every one of them
- 51:35Speaker 1: to be successful, there's just not enough of them. So,
- 51:40Speaker 1: unless we want to be speaking Mandarin in twenty years,
- 51:46Speaker 1: my rich friends eat, my poor friends do better, if
- 51:48Speaker 1: only to stay rich. They actually need us. I'm gonna
- 51:53Speaker 1: say something real crazy. Even the Klansmen, even the racist,
- 51:57Speaker 1: the most racist white person you've ever met, succeeds when
- 52:03Speaker 1: we do well.
- 52:06Speaker 3: Today, tune into Dream Forward, a virtual town hall on
- 52:10Speaker 3: financial inclusion, and we appreciate you for joining us.
- 52:13Speaker 2: Operation Hope.
- 52:14Speaker 1: Thank you, John.
- 52:14Speaker 4: It's John Hope. Brian, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.