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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 6-19-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: To have a Friday every body.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 1: Happy to have you with us here on ESPN seven
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  Speaker 1: and ninety two to one FM.
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  Speaker 2: Fun show lined up for you. The Voice of the Youth,
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley's going to join us in about half an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Dunseth Donny to talk a little World Cup soccer.
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  Speaker 1: It is a game day for the US men's national
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  Speaker 1: team against Australia. Surprisingly strong start for Australia, I think
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of people, a surprisingly strong start to
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  Speaker 1: the tournament for a team USA as well. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: unpack that matchup and then that thing will kick live
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  Speaker 1: while we are on air in the one o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 1: Paul Pugmyer to talk us Open as well. Crazy day
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  Speaker 1: at Shinnecock Hills where darkness had to shut some rounds
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  Speaker 1: down early, including the round of your leader on the course.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have leaderboard updates for you throughout the show today.
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  Speaker 1: But Wyndam Clark had to shut it down early yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and then he had to start again early today. He
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  Speaker 1: actually set a record at Shinnecock Hills, a record round
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  Speaker 1: at Shinnecock Hills yesterday. After all that conversation we had
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  Speaker 1: about how difficult the course is, and only three people
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  Speaker 1: have ever finished a US Open under par at Shinnecock
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  Speaker 1: Hills Wyndam Clark bang best round ever in the US
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  Speaker 1: Open at that course.
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  Speaker 2: So should be a lot of fun to digest that
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  Speaker 2: with Paul Pugnyer today.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll have airing of grievances at one point thirty.
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  Speaker 1: I have a very specific grievance. I've been holding on
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  Speaker 1: to James Folds some sound for me. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: play some sound for you on my grievance. And it's
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  Speaker 1: one that if you have a sports centric dad, which
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  Speaker 1: I do not, I'm lucky enough not to. It's a
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  Speaker 1: grievance that if you have a sports centric dad, it
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  Speaker 1: might really hit close to home for you. So that's
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  Speaker 1: a tease two and a half hours before we're actually
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  Speaker 1: going to air the grievances.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday was a wild one in World Cup play.
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  Speaker 1: What a treat the Mexico Korea game, closing the action
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  Speaker 1: out last night. And you know, there's a strong contingent
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  Speaker 1: of supporters for the US men's national team. There's an
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  Speaker 1: almost equally strong contingent of supporters in our home state
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  Speaker 1: of Utah for the Mexico team for obvious reasons, right
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  Speaker 1: a large Mexican community in the state of Utah, and
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  Speaker 1: even like we were talking about yesterday, some of our
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  Speaker 1: own Native Utahs have jumped on the L three bandwagon.
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  Speaker 2: Mexico gets it done.
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  Speaker 1: They advance out of group play, a couple of wins
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  Speaker 1: under the belt right now, and Korea almost almost almost late,
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  Speaker 1: almost equalized on a really like a point blank header,
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  Speaker 1: just an incredible save by the Mexican goalkeeper and then
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  Speaker 1: the rebound who was kind of bouncing around and he's
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  Speaker 1: effectively on his knee slash backside and has to gather
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  Speaker 1: the ball out of the air as another Korean striker
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  Speaker 1: is coming down to try to put that thing away.
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  Speaker 1: The replay, the second angle replay, the slow motion replay
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  Speaker 1: over the head replay just shows the margin for error
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  Speaker 1: in these World Cup games is absolutely nil. Korea had
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  Speaker 1: just a couple attempts on headers in the box that
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  Speaker 1: they weren't able to put in the back of the net,
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  Speaker 1: and so Mexico advances.
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  Speaker 2: Mexico will be out of group.
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  Speaker 1: Play, and obviously the folks down there, this one was
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  Speaker 1: in Guadalajada, I think they were going absolutely bananas. You
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  Speaker 1: think that the New York Knicks victory parade in New
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  Speaker 1: York City was crazy, the scenes of the fans, the
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  Speaker 1: watch parties gathered in Mexico City and elsewhere, Just that's
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  Speaker 1: a party.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Like, sometimes we can be a little, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: us centric on the sports comparison stuff. You saw Mexico
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  Speaker 1: celebrating that victory and.
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  Speaker 2: It was wild. So today we are all members of
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  Speaker 2: the US men's national team.
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  Speaker 1: Big question about how healthy Pulistic is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: He was training by himself, effectively doing rehab all week
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  Speaker 1: instead of with the team, trying to make sure he's
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  Speaker 1: ready for today. That obviously is going to be pretty
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  Speaker 1: important for this team USA squad to try to get
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  Speaker 1: a off to another great start and try to do
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  Speaker 1: what Mexico did, grab another win and push themselves into
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  Speaker 1: the elimination rounds without any shadow of a doubt.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have some football to talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to draw this particular storyline out any
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  Speaker 1: longer than we need to, but it might be time
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  Speaker 1: for about ten percent of the fan bases for BYU
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  Speaker 1: and Utah, like, let's just put Twitter away for a while. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think I said last year. I guess it would
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  Speaker 1: have been roughly this time last year, maybe a little
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  Speaker 1: bit earlier in the calendar year. I think I made
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  Speaker 1: a claim that this at that time, the Jake retz
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  Speaker 1: Laugh situation was going to be probably the ugliest moment
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  Speaker 1: in my lifetime of the byu Utah rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: And it got pretty ugly, right. I think we might
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  Speaker 2: be passing the Jake Retslaf situation with the Parker Kingston situation.
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  Speaker 2: And I spoke with.
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  Speaker 1: An attorney friend yesterday long after the show, and the
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  Speaker 1: sense that I got was that, like, everyone should basically
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  Speaker 1: just shut up about it, because we actually have no
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  Speaker 1: idea when it's all said and done, when the dust
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  Speaker 1: completely settles, what the final ruling is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: His impression was that the prosecutors down there in Saint George,
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  Speaker 1: who waited a year to build a case and then
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  Speaker 1: brought charges, are not really enthused about letting this thing
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  Speaker 1: just go away, and that a refile is potentially very likely,
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  Speaker 1: and that we might get more injunctions or more appeals
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  Speaker 1: based on the judge in the case and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: So his impression was that this thing is actually not
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  Speaker 1: all the way over. And then, of course, on the
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  Speaker 1: flip side of the coin is the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people think that it is and there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of true blue fans that
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  Speaker 1: are out there kind of pounding their chest about like that, we.
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  Speaker 2: Told you he was innocent, and we don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he is or not.
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  Speaker 1: My hope is, and I said this a long time ago,
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  Speaker 1: my hope is that nobody got assaulted. That is my
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  Speaker 1: sincere hope. And my hope is that justice will be
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  Speaker 1: done in this case. But it's time for a good contingent,
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  Speaker 1: well not a large number, but a loud number of you,
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  Speaker 1: to just put the tweets down, stop arguing back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know, I don't know. We don't know how
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  Speaker 2: it's going to play out.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a far too sensitive and real issue
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  Speaker 1: for people to try to be dunking on one another.
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  Speaker 1: From a sports rivalry perspective, it's ugly, it's petty, it's growth.
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  Speaker 1: It makes you look bad. Whether you end up being
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  Speaker 1: right or not, it makes you look bad, okay, And
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  Speaker 1: some of these tweets and arguments are coming from people
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  Speaker 1: who are like respected figures, former players, things like that,
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  Speaker 1: stop what you are doing. That's my public service announcement
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  Speaker 1: and we'll be done with it there. James Peterson in our.
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  Speaker 2: Broadway studios, holding things down as usual. James, how are
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  Speaker 2: you doing great? Doing great?
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  Speaker 4: US men's national team Australia. The Aussies aren't good at
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  Speaker 4: soccer at all, Like, why are you even trying? We're
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  Speaker 4: at home. Let's get it done, USA, Let's go. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'm thinking a lot about that today as
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  Speaker 4: we get a World Cup game on tap today. NBA Draft,
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  Speaker 4: we got a draft show lined up, we got the
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  Speaker 4: location nailed down, Engine Room over by the Ballpark, thirteen
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  Speaker 4: eighty eight South, three hundred West, six pm on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Pump for this.
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  Speaker 4: I oh see, I'm reading a ton about what people
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  Speaker 4: think the Jazz will do. It sounds like it's all
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  Speaker 4: over the board. I still I still think it's either
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  Speaker 4: a j or Darren, which everyone doesn't go number one.
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  Speaker 4: But there's so much noise about Boozer. What I'm wondering
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  Speaker 4: is is this Danny in Austin trying to do a
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  Speaker 4: smoke screen for someone else who loves Carlo, who loves
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  Speaker 4: Cam Boozer and trying to get them to trade trade
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  Speaker 4: up for him, But I don't know, maybe it's real.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. On the drive with Spence Checkets yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: our guy.
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  Speaker 1: JP chunga Voice of the Royals, voice of the Voice
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  Speaker 1: of the Stars, he was on there and he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got I got a j Debons at number three
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  Speaker 1: on my big board. What number three? And Spence's reaction
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  Speaker 1: was similar to that. His belief is that it'll be
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  Speaker 1: It'll be Darren Peterson one to Washington, Cam Boozer two
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  Speaker 1: to Utah, and then then ag debansa and then Caleb Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: And look, it's all speculative.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we do this with NFL drafts, we do
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  Speaker 1: this to some extent with baseball drafts. We'll be doing
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  Speaker 1: it to some extent with the NHL draft, which is
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  Speaker 1: coming up quickly on us.
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't.
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  Speaker 1: Actually know and the only people whose opinions really matter
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  Speaker 1: are like there's like six people in a room at
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  Speaker 1: the Delta Center who are hammering this thing out, and
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  Speaker 1: everyone else is just throwing stuff against the wall. Even
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  Speaker 1: in a year where we feel like we are so certain.
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  Speaker 1: That is one of the great conundrums of sport, right
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  Speaker 1: the reason we love it is because it constantly gives
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  Speaker 1: us unexpected results. The reason that we feel like we're
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  Speaker 1: informed and we feel like we're experts is because some
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  Speaker 1: things in sports are predictable. And then the curveballs that
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  Speaker 1: come is actually what we love about it. The upsets
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  Speaker 1: actually what we love about it. The conversation that comes
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  Speaker 1: from can you believe that Aj Debonsa slid all the
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  Speaker 1: way down to three or four in this draft? That's
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  Speaker 1: a much bigger headline.
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  Speaker 2: That's a much more compelling conversation than AJ Debonsa one,
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  Speaker 2: Darren Peterson two, Gambooser three, Kleb Wilson four. Like what
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  Speaker 2: we want in our subconscious mind is for something crazy
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  Speaker 2: to happen. What we usually get is for chalk to happen.
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  Speaker 1: And then we love it both ways because we either
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  Speaker 1: are vindicated and correct because we are part of the
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  Speaker 1: hive mind and our group think has told us that
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  Speaker 1: Aj should be one and Darren should be two or
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  Speaker 1: vice versa, and then our biases are confirmed, and that
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  Speaker 1: confirmation bias makes us pat ourselves on the back as
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  Speaker 1: being experts right, And then we also love it when
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  Speaker 1: we're totally wrong. And now you've got to tune in
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  Speaker 1: and now you've got to read every article.
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  Speaker 2: Now you can be like, how did this happen? Where
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  Speaker 2: did we get it so wrong?
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  Speaker 1: How did Indiana become a national champion in NCAA football
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  Speaker 1: that's not supposed to be the case.
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  Speaker 2: How did the Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Golden Knights make it all the way to a Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Cup final They didn't even win forty games in the
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  Speaker 1: regular season. It's fascinating, it's incredible. And this World Cup
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  Speaker 1: is another reason, or another glimpse into why we love
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  Speaker 1: the unpredictable things so much. The Cape Verd goalie, the
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  Speaker 1: goalkeeper for Cape Verd, the forty year old man.
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  Speaker 2: Who before this tournament was completely unknown to ninety nine
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  Speaker 2: point no.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 1: I'm percent of sports fans on the planet now has
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  Speaker 1: more Instagram followers, more social media followers than every single
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  Speaker 1: NBA team, every NFL team, more followers, more people that
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  Speaker 1: have decided to pay attention to him than Victor Wembin
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  Speaker 1: Yama's got explain that for me. It's because we love
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  Speaker 1: the Cinderella, because we love the unexpected, because we love
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  Speaker 1: this sort of snowball effect of attention that happens in sports,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we got, and I'm wondering how much
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  Speaker 1: of that is going to factor in to this United
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  Speaker 1: States Australia feature today group play World Cup one pm,
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  Speaker 1: Mountain time, first kick.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't even know this right.
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  Speaker 1: Because I didn't watch a ton of the lead ups
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  Speaker 1: type programming, the shoulder programming.
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  Speaker 2: The preview shows when the schedule was announced.
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  Speaker 1: When the World Cup draw was announced, Sports CBS Sports
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  Speaker 1: Galazzo commentator Mike Grella said that the Australian soccer team
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  Speaker 1: was a this is the quote layup.
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  Speaker 2: For the US. Okay. For him, it was just like
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  Speaker 2: a oh yeah, okay, cool Australia layup. Australia obviously does
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  Speaker 2: not the soccer.
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  Speaker 1: Rus do not have a long and decorated history of
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  Speaker 1: World Cup championship level.
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  Speaker 2: Same with the US obviously, but it.
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  Speaker 4: Seems like US have made it to the knockout round
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  Speaker 4: more often, though I don't know that to be true,
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  Speaker 4: but it feels like at least that for US men's
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  Speaker 4: national team.
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  Speaker 1: The follow up statement was take nothing away from the
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  Speaker 1: soccer Ruse.
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  Speaker 2: They've been competitive and good.
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  Speaker 1: They stumbled a bit through qualifying, not so impressive. This
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  Speaker 1: is an amazing first team to have for the US.
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  Speaker 1: That was during the World Cup draw. Okay, so that's
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  Speaker 1: when they were pulling the names out of the hats
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  Speaker 1: to sort everybody into their groups, and Australia in the
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  Speaker 1: US was like, ah, sigh of relief. Okay, Australia, you've
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  Speaker 1: got one that you can kind of pencil in as
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  Speaker 1: a win. Well, he used the term layup and that
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  Speaker 1: has been the bulletin board rallying cry that has been
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  Speaker 1: the call for Australia. That has been the thing that
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  Speaker 1: Australian fans are printing on T shirts and the things
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  Speaker 1: that they're developing some kind of song or chant about
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  Speaker 1: as they get ready to go to a stadium in
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  Speaker 1: Seattle to cheer on the soccer ruse.
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  Speaker 2: Layup.
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  Speaker 1: That one word has become symbolic of the US arrogance,
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  Speaker 1: the US confidence, the US over confidence. For Australia, it
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  Speaker 1: is the it is the thing, the rallying cry for
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  Speaker 1: them to say, we are not your little brother.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to come out and beat you.
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  Speaker 1: One word, James, one word from a couple months ago, and.
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  Speaker 4: From a country that has gotten a lot better at
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  Speaker 4: basketball but doesn't isn't known for basketball either, but they
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  Speaker 4: I mean, a layup is very offensive to them.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing, it's amazing that that's what has has happened.
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  Speaker 1: And look you can we've got we've got these things right.
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  Speaker 1: But like in your favorite US Australia soccer, not exactly
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  Speaker 1: a great rivalry, but we love bulletin board material. We
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  Speaker 1: love for there to be some kind of thing we
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  Speaker 1: can attach our vitriol, our venom, our hate, our angst our, worry.
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  Speaker 2: Are are sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Just indignation too, and we want it to be as
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  Speaker 1: concise as possible.
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  Speaker 2: For Australia. It's one word.
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  Speaker 1: It's layup eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what your favorite one is?
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  Speaker 1: Your favorite catchphrase that somebody used against your team that
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  Speaker 1: then you got to throw back at them. You know,
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  Speaker 1: overrated is always the thing somebody says some team is overrated.
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  Speaker 1: Max Hall hates me as something that the Utah fans
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  Speaker 1: jumped on. You've heard back and forth in the BYU
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  Speaker 1: Utah rivalry. Magic happens right all for BYU fans. It
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  Speaker 1: might be pooh poo, shout up to snoop ont Lee.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, they sell poo poo, right, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's always it. It's always something that if if
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  Speaker 1: this game ends up being a layup for the United States,
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  Speaker 1: if we get a four to one victory for a
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  Speaker 1: team USA over Australia, then they're gonna burden those layup shirts.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna stop talking about layups as dismissive and as
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  Speaker 1: disrespectful and because it's gonna look like it was correct.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, it is the bulletin board material. It
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  Speaker 1: is the thing that the coach for Australia is writing
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  Speaker 1: on the whiteboard in all caps and underline, underline, underline,
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  Speaker 1: exclamation point, exclamation point, just pointing to it and telling
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  Speaker 1: those guys to get out on the pitch.
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  Speaker 2: I got on.
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  Speaker 4: I got one for a phrase. I guess it's I
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  Speaker 4: guess probably one word for for jazz fans. This is
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  Speaker 4: now about ten years old, but nightlife was one.
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  Speaker 6: Against the Warriors.
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  Speaker 2: That's one. That's a great example.
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  Speaker 4: I can't really think of any other for jazz specific
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  Speaker 4: off the top of my head again eight seven seven
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  Speaker 4: three five three zero seven hundred, think of some jazz
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  Speaker 4: ones or rsl ones. Yeah, this is a good topic
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  Speaker 4: because we there's always some kind of bulletin board material.
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  Speaker 4: Like you say one word short phrase that we just
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  Speaker 4: we kind of try to glom onto as we feel
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  Speaker 4: as we, you know, feel towards our rivals or like
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  Speaker 4: teams that think they're better than than our local teams
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  Speaker 4: and kind of stump kind of looking down on us.
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  Speaker 4: We love to hate that, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So that's something that keep an eye out when you're
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  Speaker 1: watching this US men's national team play today against Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Keep an eye out for the signs. I guess that
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're allowed, but keep an eye out,
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  Speaker 1: listen for the chance and whatnot. I just caught into
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  Speaker 1: this earlier in the week that Australian publications, Australian broadcast
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  Speaker 1: Australian commentators are still caught up on that one word
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  Speaker 1: and it has become their sort of the tune they're
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  Speaker 1: marching to. This is from Martin on the text line
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  Speaker 1: Cannicorn said Terrero Martini, keep that Cannicicorn warm.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that one.
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  Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. You're
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  Speaker 1: on the Channel College show.
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  Speaker 4: Want to if you wanna give us a little more context,
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  Speaker 4: you can remind us what that one's from.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be great.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be one of those things where when
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  Speaker 1: like the context, the further explanation comes in, it makes
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  Speaker 1: me feel even dumber for not knowing it right off.
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  Speaker 4: The top, right, Yeah, helped make us feel dumber Martin.
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  Speaker 1: And other big news the remember the Protect College Sports Act,
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  Speaker 1: the sweeping federal bill, the bipartisan bill that we were
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: talking about proposed by Ted Cruz and Maria cantwell as
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: this potential exemption for anti the potential anti trust exemption
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  Speaker 1: that would enforce salary cap in college football that would
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: allow for the Pandora's box to be at least partially
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: shut and a single transfer and things like that coming
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: back in well, the Commerce Committee from the Senate, which
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: is apparently the first barrier that this bill had to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: get through, passed pass this through Thursday morning to move
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the bill toward a full Senate vote. So details in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the proposal are subject to change between now and the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: actual vote, so you can kind of tweak things, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they potentially will tweak things. And obviously those tweets are
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: going to be based on FEEDBA for what you're going
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to be told, whether publicly or behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, this is going to get you the votes that
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you need.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: This revision might actually secure more support for the bill,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the sec the Big Ten, Notre Dame. These are all
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the powers, the power brokers that are trying to push
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: this thing all the way through, and the litigation will
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: come after. But it obviously gets more and more difficult
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: when the Senate is involved. When we're talking about the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: highest possible offices in the land trying to push these
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: things through, and it's something that obviously matters a ton for.
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  Speaker 2: The local universities.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's easy to make the argument that it
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: matters significantly more for the University of Utah even that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: it does for BYU, because BYU they've demonstrated a little
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: bit more, whether you call it willingness or ability or
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: enthusiasm for playing in this sort of muddy water that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the new rules of college sports and transfer NNIL have created.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Bhyu's thriving here, the team down South can no longer
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: be dismissed as just the team down south. This is
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: now a team that has the recruiting trail success to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at least start to call themselves resurgent in basketball. While
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Utah is trying to chase it's old glory days, Alex
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Jensen at the Helm and making some significant changes to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the infrastructure with basketball and with spending for basketball and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And then of course.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: You've got the football team that in a power era
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: where BYU was independent, Utah was Packed twelve, far more
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: appealing location for recruits, far more appealing, i should say,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: destination for recruits, because you've got to compete for conference championships,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you got to be on a bigger stage, you got
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to be playing against much bigger teams, and it was
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: just the higher.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Level of football.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Well, BAYU gets invited to the Big twelve, and that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: by itself not a fix. That by itself not because
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the Big Twelve without Texas and Oklahoma is a lesser
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: version of what Big twelve football used to be. Now
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that we're members of the conference at the University of
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Utah and at BYU, like no one can say anything else.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: It's not what we see from the Big ten and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: from the SEC. Those are the elite brands. Some of
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the acc is that most of all of really the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Big twelve is trying to chase that same status. BYU
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and UTA are trying to chase that same status BYU
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: has thrived in this new environment of spending to get
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: what you want. And as much as they will try
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to tell you, it's not only about spending. It's about
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: being a special place and about being a unique environment. Sure, fine,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: but the spending is really the difference maker because every university,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: every coach in every program is trying to make their
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: place appealing and special and develop you for the NFL
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and all those things. There's no coach in the country
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that is like, if you want to go to the NFL,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you got.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: To go somewhere else. Kid. There's no one, especially in
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: power for football.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: There's not one staff that is like, well, we can't
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: send you to the NFL, but we can give you
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: great facilities. We've got a great meal plan, we've got
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: excellent extracurricular activities, we've got a wonderful team culture. They're
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: all promising the same things. And what's separating the week
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: from the chaff here in this new era is largely spending. Well,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this College Sports Commissioned Bill, or this Save College Sports
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Bill again bipartisan in one of the ugliest political times
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: in our country's history, is being pushed through to a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: full Senate vote. You will be able to restrict transfers
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: back down to one. If this passes, you'll be able
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to and I cannot wait to see the details. Are
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: doubt implement something equivalent to a salary cap for UTAH.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I mean every one of the Big twelve. The official
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: company line from the Big twelve offices is that, yes,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: we support this. Nick Saban went to Congress and said
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: we support this. The SEC and the Big ten powers
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that be have said yes, we support this. The people
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: who don't want this are the agents to some extent.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: The people who don't want this are the athletes. I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: think that most athletes like when you really get down
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to it. I think that a lot of parents, a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: lot of athletes are starting to realize that, man, the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: grass has not been greener with this wide open transfer.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: With forty five hundred names in the transfer portal and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: only twenty five hundred of those names come out of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the transfer portal with the scholarship. I think people are,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in their heart of hearts starting to realize that the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: wild West, free for all doesn't serve the overall, the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: greater good. Now, the problem is it still very much
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: serves individual agendas. I think two they don't have to
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: be mutually exclusive. I think you can probably be the mom,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the dad, the player, the high school coach, the junior
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: college coach, the whatever coach and sit back and look
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: at the grand landscape and say, yeah, man, this is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: not that good.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It's actually kind of bad.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: To see all these guys left in limbo because they
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: don't realize that they shouldn't have put their name in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the transfer portal. They shouldn't have burned that bridge with
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the previous university. They shouldn't have said this, they shouldn't.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Have done that. I think there's a lot of people.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: Who can look at the.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Bird's eye view of it and say, yeah, this is
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: probably not good for college sports.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: But those same people when their son their daughter themselves
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: outperforms the FCS level that they're at, or outperforms the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Group of six level that they're at, or becomes a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: first team All Mountain West running back and suddenly gets
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: a phone call from LSU, suddenly you're like, wait a minute,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: maybe the system is not so bad after all. Maybe
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this's free for all because now it serves me, it
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: serves my wants, my needs, my wallet. Now it's a
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: good thing. That's where the disconnect is always going to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: remain until things like collective bargaining are a reality. That's
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: how the NFL, the NBA, Major League Baseball hockey, that's
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: how they have fixed that problem because what serves the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: group and what serves the individual are rarely the same thing.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Because there are outliers, They're always going to be outliers,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: right A max salary or a true hard salary cap
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: in the NFL doesn't serve, didn't serve Patrick Mahomes for
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a long time, didn't serve Tom Brady for a long time.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So now we've got to see if the Senate, a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: full Senate vote approves this reform for college sports. Some
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: breaking news, Christian Polistic is out for the game against
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Australia today.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Not able. He was working hard to get back to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: full health, not able to go. It seems potentially problematic
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: for the.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: US men's national team against a plucky Australian squad.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll have a thought on that. We might
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: have some perspective on that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Bill Riley, the voice of the youth so obviously was
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the voice of RSL for a very long time, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a guy who loves the beautiful game will talk to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: him about the US men's national team matchup.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Today.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: We'll also talk about the Ultro Capital deal going final,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and much more.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Bill Riley joins us next on ESPN seven hundred and
• 29:12
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• 29:27
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• 29:43
  Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show on a Friday.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Welcome in the voice of the youths, Bill Riley.
• 29:48
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley, Welcome back to the show.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: How are you, John. I'm good. I wishing I was
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: in Steattle at lumen Field today, but doing okay. Seventy
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: six days to kick off, excited about football, excited about
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: USA today against Australia, and ready to go.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: How do you react to the news we just got.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Mauricio Poschattino confirmed with Jenny Taft that Christian Polistic will
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: not play against Australia today.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I'm not surprised at all. He didn't train with the
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: team all week long, so when you're not training with
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: the team and you're doing work on the side, I
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: didn't have any thought that he would play today when
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: I saw the last two days he didn't train with
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: the team. So if this was an elimination game, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: think you'd see him probably try to play. But because
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: it's the second game in group stage, and because they
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: have three points in their back pocket, I think it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: probably the wise move. And as key as he is
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: and he might be the most important and influential player
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: for the team, they do have options. My expectation just
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: to guess, just to guess. Eighteen years and calling some
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: US men's national team games over the years, I know
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: a little bit about the beautiful game. I'm gonna guess
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Tim Wia probably gets to start with his World Cup experience,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: probably goes sixty or so minutes, and then I think
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: we probably see Geo Reina slot in as the second
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: half substitution, depending on how the game's going, if they
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: need a goal, if they're up a couple of goals,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: maybe they go more defensive in the midfield, but not
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: really surprised. I bet we probably see him against Turkey
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: a net next Friday, but not real surprised by the names.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: Ricardo Pepe getting the starts according to the pops.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Really in place of Plisic.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I I've been on air, so I've been able to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: listen to the sound bite itself. But in his conversation
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: with Jenny Teff, this is the Fox Sports report.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Okay, he's out and Riccardo Peppy to get the start,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: so interesting.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, interesting, indeed going with an additional forward. Okay, all right,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: we'll see what Poacha decides to do with this. With
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: this lineup today, it's going to be a physical game. Australia,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: as you know, tend to be very physical in all
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: they do, whether it's basketball, Australian rules football, rugby, whatever
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: it is. The soccer rus are going to make it
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: and I think that's another reason why they didn't want to.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: They didn't want to risk Holistic today too, even if
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: he's close to being back. Australia plays a very physical
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: brand of soccer and I think they probably want to
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: lessen the chances that he's out and aggravates it even longer,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: So I would expect a low scoring, physical game today
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: in Seattle, and what about ninety minutes from now.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I know you do love the beautif and you've called
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it for such a long time, and you know you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: always going to enjoy watching this World Cup. But seeing
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: your home country hosted, seeing your hometown, your original hometown
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: be one of the host sites y and like all
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the accessory stories and things that are coming out in
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the news and on social media and whatnot.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: With all of that stuff, I imagine for me this.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: One has been even more enjoyable than than a typical
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: World Cup.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: How do you feel?
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm old enough to remember us hosting in
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four, but it was just different. I mean,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: the United States wasn't playing a huge though they had
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: a great run, a surprising run there. The game in
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: this country wasn't where it is today. But to see
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: what this game, I mean, we are, We're such a
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: sporting country and we can do big events so very well.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: To see these crowds, to see these events, whether it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: in Kansas City or Seattle, or Los Angeles or Atlanta
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: or Miami or Houston or Dallas, everywhere you go It's
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: been met with just unbelievable enthusiasm by all that have
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: been around it. I've been talking to friends of mine
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: that have in Kansas City and family that are there,
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: and it's you know, Kansas City's got not just the
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: games themselves, but England, Argentina, the Netherlands, and Algeria are
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: all base camping in Kansas City as well, So there's
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of people that are there just to
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: see their favorite national teams practice and train. I just
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: think it's been phenomenal. I thought last Friday night the
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: atmospherit so far for the US men's national team is
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: so great. And the other thing is too It's I've
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: called enough of these games over the years and seen
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: them a lot of times. In these build ups and
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: these friendlies and these qualifiers. The United States will play,
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: you know, Mexico, or they'll play Panama or somebody, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: it's a half and half crowd, if not more the other. Hey,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: these crowds are decidedly American. I would expect the atmosphere
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: up in Seattle today to be even better than it
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: was last Friday down to Los Angeles. I just I
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: think it's been fantastic, and I just think the United
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: States so far, again, we're only a week into this thing,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: but I think it's been it's carried off well, same
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: thing in Canada, up in Vancouver and in Toronto and
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: down in Guadalajara, in Mexico City. I just think so
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: far the games have been really good and for the
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: most part, and the atmosphere has been off the charts.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so far, so good for the World Cup tournament.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And of course we'll be paying close attention the rest
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: of the way and hopefully US men's national team can
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: do what Mexico did last night and they can punch
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: their ticket after two games, they can punch their ticket
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: out of the group stage.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: How likely do you think that is? It would take
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: three points.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's very I think it's likely. I mean,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: and again Polisic not being and is a big deal,
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: but they're better than Australia. This is the most deep
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: and talented roster the United States ever had. I think
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: it's very Even if they say, let's say they drew
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: today and they drew one one or two two with
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Australia today, I still think it's likely they're going to
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: get out of the stage and maybe even still win
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: the group with a draw today. So I like the
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: United States chances. I said all along, I thought that
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: they would get to the quarterfinals. Depending on the health
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: and how they decide to play, There's a chance they
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: could get beyond that. But I certainly think my expectation
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: was win the group and win at least one knockout
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: round game, and I still think they're on part to
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 36:40
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• 36:42
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• 36:47
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the University of Utah. We
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: talked about it, we wondered about it, we speculated it
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: The Otro Capital deal, the first of its.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Kind private equity partnership between Utah and Athletics and private
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: equity for Motro Capital to create Crimson Brand Partners and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a new era of Utah Athletics, is official.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It is signed, it is sealed.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I guess we now get to see what the delivery
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: looks like. You just mentioned we're seventy six days away
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: from kickoff. Is there anything in your mind? Are we
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: going to notice anything different about this capital and fusion
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: is cash infusion in the twenty twenty six football season.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: That's a good question. I think still a lot of
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: it is it kind of unfolds. It's going to be
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: interesting to see how it plays out here. I mean,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I work up here and I'm going to be kind
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: of part of that, a little bit part of that
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: world too, working with it. So I'm really curious to
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: see how it rolls out. I know that they've got
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: big plans long term, but I'm really curious myself to
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: see what the short term impact will be at Rice
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Cycle Stadium. I don't know if the average fan is
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: going to notice anything different in the short but again,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: it's it's also new Sean that I'm I'm very kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: of like everybody else, kind of in the planning stages,
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: seeing how this thing rolls out. So we'll we'll see.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I know everybody up here is very excited for it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: It's been talked about for you know, six seven, eight
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: months now, so I know everybody up here is very
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: excited to see how this thing begins to develop in
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: the short term. But as far as football, I'm kind
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: of like everybody else, I'm kind of in the waiting
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: stage two to see how things play out.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: The biggest no brainer questioned for me, which has not
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: been the biggest no brainer answer to this point for me,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and that could just be a me problem, but is
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: whether or not this capital infusion, this cash infusion is
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: ever going to find its way directly to players and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to NIL funds. And you know, Mark Carlin joined Spence.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: That conversation is available on the ESPN seven hundred app,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: but on ESPN seven hundred sports dot com, and Spence
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: asked the question, and Mark did a good job of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: answering it without really i think, being fully committal or
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: fully clear on whether or not that was an easy
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: mechanism for ultro capital of that money to come into
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the hands of student athletes directly. Do you have a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: sense on whether or not this either directly comes straight
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: through Crimson brand partners to student athletes I legitimate NIL
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: deals or maybe the thought is that it can free
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: up booster money that would traditionally go towards the programs directly,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and now it's now that money from them, from the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Huntsmans and whoever else could be funneled to student athletes instead,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: because that's where Utah's got a They've done a good job,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: but that's where they could obviously improve, like everybody can do.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You know if this new signed, sealed, delivered deal makes
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that more possible.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know that for sure, Sean. I know the
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Crimson Brand Partners will be you know, working hand in
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: hand with you know, sports and athletes and working to
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: enhance nil and things like that, But I don't know
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: what the what the flow of money looks like from
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: you know, the new deal through Crimson Brand Partners, through Athletics,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: any of that stuff. I don't know what those mechanisms are.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: That's those discussions are being had in meetings above my
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: pay grade. But I do know the Crimson Brand Partners
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: one of its core core missions is creating more revenue
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: that will flow directly into Utah Athletics to help elevate
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: and support sports marketing, you know, fan experience, all of
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: that stuff across the board. So but as far as
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: where that money is coming from and where it will
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: go directly that that, I don't know.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Have you had a.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Chance to talk with the new Director of Athletic Performance,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning coach Steve Saunders, who replaced Greg
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: argus and kind of a surprising move, sort of a
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: last minute change after springball.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Have you ever a chance to have any conversations with him?
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: I have not. It's interesting you say that. I've been
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: actually this week starting a podcast series with a lot
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: of the new coaching staff and on on, you know,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: kind of performance staff people around Utah football. These podcasts
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: will kind of drop on both the video and audio
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: platform in July. But I have not had a chance
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: to talk to him yet. I've heard good things. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: know that our mutual good friend Eric Weddle is a
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: big fan of his, but I haven't had a chance
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: to talk to him.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Many of you, no, I haven't, And that's why I
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: was asking you. I And part of the reason I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: ask is because this is kind of a quiet time
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: from a fan perspective for Utah football. And obviously you
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: dismiss players for a month in the summer and let
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: them go back and you know, see their families and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: things like that. But the summertime is like a very
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: very incredibly crucial time for speed development for guys like
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Kelvin Obat on the roster this year,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: who before it's said and done, he's probably gonna gain
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: thirty pounds of muscle in a Utah strength program.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: How much of that is coming on this offseason? Is
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: his body adjusting to it?
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are really really crucial months for Morgan
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Scali and his staff, but there's also rules about how
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: much they can be in contact with the team.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Where the strength and conditioning coach, he.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Effectively becomes your head coach in this time of year,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and that's why I want to talk to him, and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see if you did.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: No, I haven't had a chance. Hit. It's funny you
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: mentioned Kelvin Obot. I did have a nice long conversation
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: with Jordan Gross and I asked him. I said, Jordan,
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: what's something Utah fans would want to know about Kelvin Obot?
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Because you know him, you've coached him, you've known him
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: for three years. He's kind of like one of your own.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: He's followed you here from Fruitland, Idaho. And he said
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: he is the most studious linemen of his age I've
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: ever been around. Is an absolute positive sponge. He cannot
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: get enough. He's always asking me for more information, more
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: feedback on line play and technique and what he should
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: be doing so. I thought that was really interesting to me.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: It's funny at these programs, especially like Utah, the physical
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: side of it always seems to take care of itself.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: These programs have such good strength and conditioning and performance
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: coaches these days. I'm always one that is concerned with
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: if you want to become truly elite, you've got to
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: put in the work yourself. And to me, that work
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: is the classroom work and the study. And to hear
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Jordans say that got me kind of excited about Kelvin Obot.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: One of the more interesting off the field sagas in
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: recent memory in college football came to a close earlier
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: this week. Brendan Sorosby and Texas Tech put down their
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: sores and said, all right, fine, I'm just going to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: go into the supplemental draft. We're not going to continue
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: this billable hours nightmare of lawyers countersuing each other.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: And you know, they waved.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby in Texas Tech by extension, ended up having
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: to wave the white flag here after. Really kind of
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: an embarrassing period in my opinion, of digging their heels
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: in and making these false flag arguments and things like that.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I just want to get your perspective on the Brendan Soresby,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you know, resolution of him not playing for Texas Tech
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I had in my mind, because you're a Game of
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Thrones guy, I had in my mind that visual of
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: John snow standing by himself as the army came charging
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: toward him before his sister, who I don't know why
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: she waited Sansa to the last minute to wave the
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: other army in from the flank, except the other army
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: wasn't coming for John's to support Brendan Soresby in Texas Tech.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: They were kind of standing there waving their swords against
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: the army charging on. It was it was, to use
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: your terms. I thought it was a rather unseemly argument
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: and fight by Texas Tech. They would not have supported
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: this had it been a quarterback at Arkansas or Oklahoma State.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't have done that. They dug their heels in
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, they brought him
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: on board and they were paying him five million dollars
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: or four million dollars or whatever that whatever it turned
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: out to be. They should have dug in and said
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: we're going to support Brendan Soresby because Brendan Soresby says,
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: he's got a gambling problem and a mental health issue
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: that he's got to deal with. But he's bet on
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: not only his own team and his own sport, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: others as well, and we're going to stand by him
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: and let him get some help. We've got good quarterbacks
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: in the program. Heck, Will Hammond is a very good
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: quarterback who's one of ours who should be back very soon.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: They didn't approach it the right way. Everybody could see it,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: and I think the Big Twelve did the right thing.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: You know, they stood up and they said, we're not
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: going to be dictated to by an individual school. We're
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: going to do what's right. Fifteen of our sixteen members
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: are against this, and the rest of college football is
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: standing against this as well. And I think I think
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Texas Tech saw the writing on the wall and they said,
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: this is not going to be something that reflects well
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: on us now in the future, and we've got to
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: probably make make a move. And Brendan Sorsby, you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: he's going to have a chance to play football on
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: the next level. Maybe he's not going to get paid
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: great sums of money this year. But if he's good
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: enough to play, and he could spend the year getting
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: himself ready for a draft or ready for a supplemental draft,
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: and also working on himself as well, I think it's
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: the right situation. It got ugly for a minute, but
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: I think the resolution at the end was probably the
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: right one. Would you agree?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I do agree.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And also the funny thing for me is right And
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I know it's always like perspective, and his overall numbers
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: are good, and his talent is obviously there. But if
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you just took the snapshot of Brendan Soresby at Rice
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Cycle Stadium last year, you would not even believe that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: this national news story, this fight was all over that guy,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: because I mean, he's he's vulnerable as a quarterback. He's
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: someone that if if you've got the right film study
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: ahead of time and you got the right defensive pressure,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you could make him look really, really bad. It's not
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was going to be the savior
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: of Texas Tech anyway, But I think the right thing
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: happened at the end.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I do too, and I think the numbers were
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Sewan Karame. I think he's oh for November. The last
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: two years I think he's O for Ah to eight
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: or something like that close to it the last two years.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: In November, he did not play well. Utah gave the game,
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: game plan or blueprint to everybody else. And if you
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: read maybe Bruce Bruce was Bruce Feldman's article in The
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: End Athletic. He talked to some big twelve coaches and
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: I'm not so sure one of them may not have
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: been on the Utah staff. They were all anonymous. But
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: he did not play well against press man and defenses
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: that really got after him in Utah did that. He
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: had a couple of big big one big run of
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: one big pass down the field, I think the Cyrus Allen.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: But he was eleven for thirty three to two picks.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: He didn't play well, and I think he's got some
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: tools to be a good quarterback, but I'm not so sure.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not so sure that he's going to be a
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: top end draft pick. I think if he goes in
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: the supplemental draft, it might be a fourth or fifth
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: round pick. Some of that might have to do with
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: the off field stuff, but some of it might have
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: to do with the football stuff as well.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Should Cincinnati be getting phone calls right now. Also, because
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you know Soresby his agent, this watchdog organization, I can't
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: remember which one that one of the apps that flags
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: irregular activity allegedly told Cincinnati before the twenty twenty five season,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: and so Orsby's agent said they knew for two years
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and they kind of did the Homer Simpson fading into
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the bushes thing for most of this conversation. But should
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati get a little second look from the Big twelve
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: and the rest of college football?
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I think they.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're doing the right thing, you probably should.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Everybody might just want this thing to go away. But
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: if I'm somebody else that's not a big fan of Cincinnati,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: maybe I raise that question said and say, how much
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: did you guys really know about what was going on
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: with this young man when you brought him in in
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: for the last couple of years. You know, I think everybody,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: now that we've got this resolution he's not going to
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: play college football anymore, I think a lot of people
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: would probably probably at Cincinnati too, would probably like it
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: just to go away.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Will the University of Utah be among the many schools
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: that are calling Parker Kingston and his representation in these
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: next few days.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: I don't think so, I mean, I don't, I don't
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: according to what I read, charges might be refiled again.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: According to the story that I read, I'm not sure
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: that anybody really wants to touch that right now, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: unless there was an absolute resolution on it. But if
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: if something could come back to surface again, I'm not sure.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: If you're a program, if you would want to you
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: would want to bring that in and then have it,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: you know, and then he had him to still have
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: to deal with a legal situation. So I don't know that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: I haven't talked to Scaley or anybody about that. It
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: would seem unlikely to me, though, what about I mean,
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: is he Do you think he's fielding a lot of
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: phone calls from schools?
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I know that.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: There were some that were interested, and it was even
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: some SEC schools.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: And I think there's two reasons for that.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Because I think in the SEC they they only care
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: about like the letter of the law and are they're
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: not worried about any.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Of the pr stuff associated with it. So if he
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: was all the way exonerated, all the way cleared, then
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: it would make sense for them.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: But because there is that sort of hanging question, Mark.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I think it changes the dynamics significantly. And I said
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: on the show yesterday that like, let anyone else call
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: him Utah Camp. It just doesn't make any sense too
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: close to home. The rivalry obviously plays a huge part
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: in how people are going to feel about this, and
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the fact that you know, Morgan Scalley's the first year
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: coach only adds to that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: So I think that for for many, many, many off
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: the field reasons, but even on the field reasons, you
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: don't even entertain that idea as the university.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: Well, Utah's got a really here's the other thing, though,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: Utah's got a really good wide receiver room this year.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and those are the on the field reasons.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: It's like if you're dest the deepest receiver room they've
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: had in years. If ever, I talked to Chad Bumpus
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: this week as well. He he is just glowing about
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: this wide receiver room, and so is Kevin mcgiven. So
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: Will I would tell you there's there's a litany of
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: reasons why I wouldn't, But if I was Utah, I
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: don't think that you really need to. You've got a
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: lot of really good weapons to that You've got to
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: look at that. You know you've got you've already got
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: in your program that have been working there. So I
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: think if you're a Utah football fan, you've got to
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: be excited about what you've got coming this year with
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: guys like Braden Pagan and Kyrie Scholz and Ricky Johnson
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: and Creed Whittemore. You know, Larry Simmons is back, Dadrian Zipperer,
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: not to mention, you know, the tight ends, not to
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: mention some other weapons that you can use there. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: know talking to the offensive staff that they're really really
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: excited about all the pieces that they've got to play
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: with this year. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: what happens with that. But I would I would say
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Utah is probably pretty happy with where they're at right now.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Well roughly an hour away from first kick.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: What does the Bill Riley plan for US men's national
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: team versus Australia.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: To be as red, white and blue as I possibly
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: can from about one o'clock to three o'clock and hopefully
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: see a win at lumin Field today. Hey, by the way,
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you, what did you make of
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: UFC two point fifty at the White House.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, as the PFL guy, I obviously wanted
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I watched that because I love the fights, but I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: also wanted there to be like something to make fun of,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: something to be like, oh, this is stupid all they
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: completely wasted money on this.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: This is a terrible look. And look, there's a lot
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: of ways you can turn this into a political discussion,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: not doing so if you're just talking about the sports
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: viewer experience, the fight fan experience watching that, and you're
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: an American, a red blooded American like you and I.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Are, I mean, they knocked it out of the park.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: It was painfully awesome for someone.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: That real fight was unbelievable. I know you're a Justin
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: Gaetchee guy, right, you enjoy watching him fight?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Who doesn't.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's your favorite fighter's favorite fighter. He
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: is just he's built for this.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: He is the.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Modern American gladiator. And that performance, I think he should
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: retire off that performance. I know there's a lot of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: conversation about him wanting a couple more fights, but it's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: not going to get any better than that that you
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: walk out of the.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Office his age, and I'll be honest, coming in, I
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: thought that the guy that he was fight. What's his
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: name starts with a tech. I thought Toporia was going
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: to beat him. I just did. He looked quicker early
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: and Gaechee just was just peppering him and he just
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: the eyes and the nose and oh my, I mean
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: that was an unbelievable final fight. It really was.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: It really was. It was incredible. It's a Fight of
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: the Year candidate.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: It is the definitive performance of Justin Gaigie's career on
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the biggest stage he's ever been on. He's been an
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: interim champ previously, but he's never been the undisputed lightweight champ.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: That is the weight class, that's the deepest weight class
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: in the UFC, and he won it at thirty seven
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: years of age. I mean, come on, does it truly
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't get better than that. His mom, his dad are
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: ip seats on the White House lawn and talking with
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the President and the first Lady after the fight is over.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Like you, it doesn't go up from there in pretty
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: much any sport, but especially in MMA.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was I'm petty Bill, you know this
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: about me?
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I was like tuning in kind of hoping that they
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: UFC would stub their toe in some way on that broadcast,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: but from the national anthem and fly over all the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: way to the final moments of the final fight, it
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: was pretty stellar.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: He should take a cue from the guy I'm talking
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: to right now, do the mic drop and walk off
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: the stage.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no reason not to. There really isn't like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: what's he waiting for. He's waiting for another young killer
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: to come up and steal that.
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: Belt off him. Walk away while you've got it hung
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: over your shoulder.
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: But you know he's wired differently than the rest of us.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to tell him what to do.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Bill before I let you Gota dot com Handy, and
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you and I both know President Garrett very well.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Give the folks out there listening a reason to call them.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: Well, I hope you don't have to, because if you
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: don't have to call President and Garrett, it means if
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: you haven't gotten into a car accident or haven't been
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: injured on the job or someplace, and you don't need
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: that representation. But if you have, you want somebody on
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: your side that will do a great job for you.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: And that's what Preston and Garrett Handy will do. Over
• 56:27
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  Speaker 1: news for Utah football on the recruiting trail, a high
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  Speaker 1: profile name has offered his commitment to the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Diesel Dart, the younger brother of Giants QB. Jackson Dart.
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  Speaker 1: He is obviously a legacies dad. Brandon Dart was part
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: of the Utah defensive backfield back in the nineties and
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Diesel Dart Corner Canyon High School captain has committed to
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  Speaker 1: the University of Utah. Now, we don't always give you
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  Speaker 1: updates on every single recruiting trail commitment, but this is
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a legacy athlete. It is the son
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: of a former Ute who has stayed pretty close to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the scene, so to speak, and obviously the younger brother
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: of an NFL player, high profile NFL quarterback. He plays
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: linebacker slash safety, and he's a three star recruit. He's
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: a productive player. He's a good player down there at
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Corner Canyon. That Casey setera former Ute in his own right,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: is now the head coach down there after Eric Kerr
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: went up to Weaber State University. So nice, little get
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a local kid that has a Utah family and obvious
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: ties to the university, and it comes from one of
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the state's most prominent recruiting pipelines, Corner Canyon High School.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: The other thing about this, right.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: You have to is an incredible flex naming your kid
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: something like Diesel. Okay, like that child, I don't know
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: what his birth weight was, but if that kid is
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: less than ten pounds, and you're naming him Diesel. You're
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: taking a risk, and the Dark family must have known
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: from the very very beginning that this kid was going
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to be something physical. Because naming your kid, I know
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a couple of kids named Diesel. My wife's cousin has
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: a son named Diesel, big old boy, big kid. Maybe
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: there's there must just be like some divine intervention, some
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: spiritual prompting that tells parents, like, yeah, you're clear to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: name this one Diesel. Because when you're naming an infant baby,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: they're tiny, they're fragile.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: You can't name a kid Diesel if he ends.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: Up being five ft eight in a one hundred and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: seventeen pounds Diesel Dart big kid right, six foot plus,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: he'll be too something by the time he feels out
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: all the way he probably already is.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: It's a flex when you name your kid Diesel.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: So congratulations to the Dart family on that name risk
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: working out. At the end of the day, James, you're
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: a big guy. You got some size in your family.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what your wife's family is like stature wise,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the men in her family, you might you could probably
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: get away with naming the kid Diesel.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: Probably could, I'm not sure I would, Okay, don't really.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's fine as a nickname, in my opinion,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. All right, that's great. Is an actual name,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: all due respect to the Dart family, and I'm sure
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Diesel's gonna be awesome. Isn't Hans's kid? Who who's about
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: to go to Utah State?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Right? Is that right? Hans Olsen has.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: A area his son Rock is.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: But it's still like you give middle name, Okay, so
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: it is part of his official name.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: So it's part of his official name. So again, like
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're somebody like that, Okay, you're the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So let's see. Rock would be the great, great great
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: nephew of Merlin Olson if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the jeans. You're pretty safe there, the great nephew.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: And his mom played volleyball in college, and his dad
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: played football and wrestled and played in the NFL and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: played in the AFL. Like that one, you're playing a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: pretty high percentage. And that's how the Dark family is
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: doing it too, right.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if mom was a student athlete or
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: was an athlete of any kind. But I'm assuming that
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: you've got good geens on both sides, because you know, big.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Brother is an NFL quarterback.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Little brother is going to be probably a starter at
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: some point at the University of Utah. But yeah, if
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you're if you're from the Olsen and like, I don't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: know how big Rock was when he was born, but
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I've known Rock for a good chunk of his life,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and he has always been gigantic.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Big He was just like you know, you know.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: You meet those kids, like you drop your kid off
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: at preschool, you pick your kid up from kindergarten whatever,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and there's like one or two dudes that you're like,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: is that a kindergartener, and some other parent or some
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: other teacher will be like, oh yeah, and they're as
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: big as a fifth grader.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Rock. That's Rock. He's I mean, he's like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: he's like six seven or six'.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Eight the photos of him on his mission he's in
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: In New, mexico uh and doing a lot of work
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: on like reservations and, stuff and you just have this, big,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: old corn fed country looking boy that's four times as
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: big as everyone around. Him it's pretty, cool it's pretty.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Funny so, yeah you're you're playing. Percentages like IF i
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: had a, son my my wife's family has some hype
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: in her.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Family i'm not, tiny But I'm i'm just a slightly
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: above average. SIZE i don't THINK i could name my
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: kid like freight train, O'Connell you.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: Know or it's Like tank is another one that's been football,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Players Tank, Johnson, right it was a.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Lineman like, look some of these, Guys like if it's a, nickname,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: sure but a lot of these guys it's like a given.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Name it's, like, yeah, yeah it's one.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: That's a flex man that's eight seven seven three five
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: three zero seven.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Hundred give me an example in.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Your, life somebody you, know LIKE i don't, know you
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: name your kid, speedy he better be. Fast you name
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: your Kid, diesel he better end up being. Something you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i? Mean did you?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: See?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Uh we got a text come in as someone that's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: five Eight i'm, offended ha. Ha i'm at least one
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty, pounds but it's taken a lot of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: lifting and weight gainer shakes to get.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: There, yeah shout out to congratulations six fifty. Five, however
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: if your name Was, diesel it would be a little
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: off the. Mark all, Right, yeah did you also going back,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: to you, know bolton board material for your favorite team
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that you that galvanized your favorite team some negative boltin board.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: MATERIAL i forgot about this. One this obviously was BEFORE
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: i was, born BUT i remember hearing stories about this
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: woody page around the horn Fame Denver post columnist in the,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: EIGHTIES A texter wrote in he IS i believe that's?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Right first round matchup against The. Nuggets he wrote that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: The jazz have no, heart so no.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: HEARTS i would love if some prominent journalists wrote THAT
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: i or my favorite team had no.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Heart that's the easiest one to. Disprove.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: Absolutely if they're, like, oh you're too, small you're too,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: Slow LIKE i can't.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Do much about. THAT i am probably too, small too,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: slow no, Heart come, on that's the easiest one to.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Disprove what real love?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: Me some woody page though on the on the around the,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: horn rip rip two around the?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Horn all? Right?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Uh some an update here in The Daily dump on
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: The utah basketball. Front remember when we were talking about
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: The israeli commit no mi ilkov uh and like there's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: been paperwork, questions there's been eligibility for AN nba.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Draft, process questions about all these. Things, uh he was
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: on campus On, wednesday and we still don't know his
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: final decision in the pre draft process for THE.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Nba the projection has him in the second. Round if
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: he is drafted in the second, round there's still a
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: chance he would play At utah in the twenty twenty
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: six twenty twenty seven. SEASON i don't know how that,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: works If i'm being, honest it would be the reason
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: why from WHAT i FROM i read, here the reason
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: why there's still a d chance he does that is
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: because that's a non guaranteed contract and he might just like.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: He might just say no. Thanks, yeah he might just
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: say no, Thanks i'll keep. PLAYING i don't know how
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: that particular part, works, LIKE i. DON'T i don't know
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: the draftees really have that much say in the whole,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Thing BUT, i at least from what When i'm, reading,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: uh he is the Only the only way That yakov
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: is guaranteed not to play At utah next year is
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: if he's a gets a guaranteed contract in THE, nba
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: guaranteed roster spot in THE nba first round, pick or
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: some kind of undrafted free, agent guaranteed spot type of,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: thing which seems unlikely at this. Point so it's a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: it's a COMPLICATED nba draft process for. Him but he
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: did visit, campus he took. Pictures he seems to be
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: preparing as if he's going to be on the running
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: new roster this. Year but something to, watch especially as
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: we get to THE Nba draft next.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Week we haven't had a chance to get to this
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: so far this.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: Week i've had it on the daily dump list FOR
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: i don't know a few days.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Now we've seen stadium.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Improvement projects locally right, Obviously Rice Ecle stadium got the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: south end zone facelift not so long, ago and, beautiful, lovely,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: incredible AND i know that those things are. Pricey you
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: get the new video, board you get this insane amount
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: of concrete work AND vip seating and, fireplaces you, know gas,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: fireplaces all this great.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Stuff it's, great, wonderful and sometimes you just got to
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: pay for.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: That, florida The university Of florida is going to upgrade
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: one of the most iconic stadiums at all of college,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: football the Swamp Ben Hill Griffin.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Stadium did you know that was the official name of the,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Stadium JAMES.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: I, did, actually but not until a couple of years,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: ago so probably not Until utah played them for the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: FIRST i did not know it had an official name like.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: That so The.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Swamp they've been talking about improving The swamp and kind
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: of the same thing you see in here with, everything
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: with every single stadium project that.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Happens all we need more premium.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Seating all we need to take advantage of some stuff
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that's more down that closer to field, levels some bunker
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: suites that think they like to call, them and they
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to add premium. Seating we got to try to
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: improve our parking, situation our handicap access to, bathrooms, concessions
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: all that. Stuff, right this is not a tear down and,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: rebuild but they're going to improve the.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Stadium and the first bid that they were talking.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: About voting and approving was somewhere three hundred four hundred million,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: dollars which is insanely expensive but kind of what you.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Expect reports this week indicate that the final number that
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: The Florida provosts and company are a proving to upgrade
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: The swamp give it a, facelift is now one point
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: four or five billion, dollars not for a new, stadium
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: for improvements on the iconic old. Stadium and they're trying
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: to play this balancing game where you do make it
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, modern a little bit, fresher but
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you don't compromise any of the classic character of the,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: swamp WHICH i will admit is a very delicate needle
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: to thread and probably very. Difficult and anything that's difficult
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: usually requires a little bit more. Money but a lot
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: of that is just seems like it should just be.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Designed in any, case one point four or five billion
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: dollars for stadium improvements not a brand new stadium is
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: is just.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Disgusting it's. Insane that doesn't even make. Sense you can
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: build a new.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Stadium for That South florida down the road From florida
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: is building a brand new. STADIUM i mean a quarter
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: of the capacity this. Momp but they're building a brand
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: new stadium for a quarter.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: Of the, price like ripping down the other stuff building
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: something new for much less than half of this.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Fine This james reeks of.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Like mob money laundering if it gets funneled back into,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: players and that's how you're baying for your. Nil MAYBE
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: i don't, know one point four or five billion dollars
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: to upgrade.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: An old stadium feels like something fishy to, me.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: And it's it's PROBABLY i don't know you were you
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: were the one that reading the reports about.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: THIS i.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: HAVEN'T i haven't read any of, them but it sounds
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: to me like it's or it seems to me like
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: it's probably some public, funding not only because they're a public,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: university but like even more than, that like we see professional.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: STADIUMS i would guess right they some kind of some
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: kind of raising in local. Taxes you would think for
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: some to be able to get that much money for
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: something like, This speaking of what they're trying to, do
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: because The swamp is such an old building and it
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: has so much of that charm and history of the,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: old the the oldness with it, right it reminds. You
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: it reminds me of the old base some of the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: old baseball. Stadiums Fenway park has threaded this needle over
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: the last twenty, years trying to upgrade its amenities while
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: also keeping it the old ballpark that's been around for
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: over almost one hundred and twenty. Years And Wrigley field's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: done the same thing in with the cubs recent change
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: in ownership not all that recent, anymore but their their
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: current ownership has done a lot of that. Too it
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: makes me wonder, like did they these guys consult those baseball,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: stadiums because those are the only ones that you can
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: really compare and, say how do you do?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: THIS i have no idea who they. Consulted i'm looking
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: at it's the company.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Associated maybe we can look this up for The Fenway
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: park and. Whatnot the company is a main It's Manhattan.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Construction Manhattan Construction group And Hunt Construction group will serve
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: as the management.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Teams, interesting.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Okay expanded, concourses improved concessions and, restrooms enhanced, accessibility upgraded technology,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: infrastructure improve video and audio, systems and expanded premium hospitality.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Areas this is about five.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Hundred million dollars more expensive than any renovation project has ever,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: been and they're doing it at The. Swamp it's supposed
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: to begin after this season and be completed in twenty,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Thirty so have fun with the swamp being under. Construction
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: they're going to keep the capacity the. Same it sounds
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: like roughly just under ninety thousand.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: People oh you.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Know what that that actually reminds me of Another bolton
• 1:14:07
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  Speaker 11: of our number three to talk a LITTLE Us open
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  Speaker 11: as some surprisingly low scores At Shinnekak hills if we're
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  Speaker 11: comparing it to all the HISTORICAL Us open, Performances Wyndham
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  Speaker 11: clark right now on pace to set the all time
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  Speaker 1: Played some news from The National Hockey. League Jonathan, taves
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  Speaker 1: three Time Stanley cup champion he also won Two olympic gold,
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  Speaker 1: medals has decided to retire at thirty eight years of.
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  Speaker 1: Age he's had some struggles. Recently he was out of
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  Speaker 1: the game for a couple of seasons because of LONG
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  Speaker 1: on but played for his Hometown Winnipeg jets this last
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  Speaker 1: season after a career fifteen seasons with The Chicago. Blackhawks
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  Speaker 1: they won The cup in twenty, ten twenty, thirteen two and.
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  Speaker 1: Fifteen he won The Consmite trophy in twenty ten in that.
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  Speaker 1: Series And Jonathan taves is. Out he is retiring from
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  Speaker 1: professional hockey after a very long and decorated, career not without,
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  Speaker 1: controversy but thirty eight years of, age he's hanging it,
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  Speaker 1: Like, that rather than just hanging it up and retiring.
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  Speaker 1: all that, stuff and he battled, back got himself back
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  Speaker 1: on the ice for a final, season ended up scoring
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine, points eleven, goals eighteen assists in this, season
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  Speaker 1: and he peered in all eighty two, games and it's
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  Speaker 1: like he just needed to tell he needed to prove
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  Speaker 1: That this last season was sort of that For Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: with plenty of. Hardware Three Stanley, cups Two olympic gold,
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  Speaker 1: the way back in twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Greats from That Sidney Crosby ovechkin. Generation they're they're finishing it,
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  Speaker 1: still no official word on some of the bigger names
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  Speaker 1: History they're outperforming the historical standard At Shinnecock, hills Especially
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  Speaker 5: Both saturday And. Sunday and.
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  Speaker 9: What he's doing right now is absolutely, historic but he's
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  Speaker 2: Evening when you see the way that the.
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  Speaker 5: Uh and he's doing some amazing. Things what do we know.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: About Jason day being carted off yesterday after an.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: Injury, YEAH i hope he's.
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  Speaker 9: OKAY i don't know any details on.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: That you.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 9: KNOW i will say this About Jason day and AND
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 9: i want to do so in the context of immense.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 9: Respect he's a major champion, winner he has been number
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 9: one in the world golf. Rankings but he has an
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: element in his swing that creates a torsonal torsional stress
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 9: that leads to. Injuries and from this from his very
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 9: earliest days when he first emerged on the nash on
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 9: the on the international, SCENE i, thought this is a
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 9: swing that will not cannot survive with found, injury and
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 9: he has shown a bit of that over the years
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 9: he's had. INJURIES i hope nothing serious is happening to him.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Now, uh you'll have to forgive, Me. PAUL i don't
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: know a lot About Keith, mitchell but he was he
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: was up and. Down YET i guess it was down and.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Up yesterday the way you would probably talk about it
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: from the trend of his golf. Game, uh, disastrous disastrous
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: start to his round and then finished really.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Strong, okay so how walk me through?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: This walk me through a day like this for a
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: professional golfer at THE Us Open boge's double bogies and
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: then somehow you're hitting birdies and ingles eagles in your second.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 9: Nine, yeah there are some mysteries out there that are
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 9: hard to. Know and If keith or anybody could answer
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 9: the question of exactly how do you do? It believe,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 9: me he'd be bottling it and selling. It But Kashmir
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 9: keith one of my favorite guys on, tour a lot
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 9: of game and really cool. Guy he struggled in his opening,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 9: round which was on his opening, nine pardon me on the,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 9: backside and then turned around and just went lights. Out
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 9: every once in a, while these, guys the talent level
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 9: is so. Deep sometimes they just kind of zone out
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 9: and the talent takes over very. Clearly that's what happened With.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 9: Keith and he shucked twenty nine after forty one on
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 9: his on his opening, nine and you, know you look
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 9: at the, card he's even par ho. Hum, no it
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 9: was anything but.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: Tohum it. Was it. Was it was, amazing.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Pretty crazy.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Round and, look you had some guys with their their
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: second round, today maybe they were quiet on day.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: ONE a couple of guys came.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Roaring back up the leaderboard on the second, day and you,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: know for someone like what was It? MORIKAWA i think
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: was five under? Today Is Ander shaffley had a great
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: day to what do you attribute the strong second rounds
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: from those.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 9: Guys the look at the top of the leader board
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 9: and just start counting down From Wyndham clark down the,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 9: top and what you get is major, winner major, winner major,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 9: winner major. Winner there are eight major winners in the top.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 9: Ten what that shows is cream is rising to the,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 9: top and that Is. Shinnacock shinnacock demands the very best
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 9: and is only the very best who will.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: Emerge and so.
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  Speaker 9: This is the one thing THAT i absolutely expected going
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 9: into THIS Us, open is That shinnecock would force the
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 9: very greatest best players with a proven track record and
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 9: a proven ability to withstand the cauldron of a major,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 9: championship in particular THE Us. Open and so it is
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 9: no accident in my view that what you see at
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: the top of the leaderboard are major CHAMPIONS Us open,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 9: winners people who have proved they can walk this. Path
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 9: and so to your question of what makes them turn it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 9: On they know who they, are they know they have that,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 9: talent and they step up and bring their. Game it
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 9: is not more complicated than the very best rise to
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 9: the very hardest.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Test Zach, blair even through two, rounds If i'm not
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: mistaken any plus one, today maybe what do.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: You make of his?
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: Chances because it feels like that this course is in
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: some ways, Unforgiving but because it's equally hard on, everybody
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: maybe you can climb if you have a couple of
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: good rounds this.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Weekend it's equally hard on.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 9: Everybody that's a very good point and equally demanding of.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 9: Everybody but, look we all Know zach and we love.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 9: Him we've been following him since he was a little.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 9: Kid this this guy has.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: Talent this guy has.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 9: Game and there are two things in particular About Zach
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 9: blair's game that match up well With. Shinnakok number, one
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 9: he keeps the ball in front of. Him he keeps
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 9: the ball in. Play shinnacock people will talk about the wide. Fairways,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 9: yeah they're. Wide they also are sloped and contoured and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: there's a lot of crosswind going on at At. Shinnacock
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 9: and the difference between being on the, fairway and slightly
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: off fairway can be. Catastrophic Zach blair keeps the ball in.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 9: Play he keeps the ball in front of. Him number,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 9: one number. Two he is a superlative world class elite wedge.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 9: Player he is one of the best walking the planet
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 9: with a wedge in his. Hand and so when he
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 9: gets into a position where he's got a, wedge whether
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 9: it's to save part or attack for a, Birdie Zach
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 9: blair is in the. Game and so it really doesn't
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 9: surprise me that he is in the top twenty. Ish
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 9: it's jumping around right, now but let's call it top.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 9: Twenty doesn't really surprise me that he is there is
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 9: demanding the shinakok. Is this is a guy who has
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 9: characteristics that match up well with the.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: Course all, Right so who's still within striking? Distance given
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: What Wyndham clark has done to pull himself away from
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: the rest of the leaders so, far who is still
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: within striking distance as we get into the, Weekend.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 9: Everybody in the top, ten and especially not only just,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 9: mathematically you've got to grab, them but also, because like
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 9: we just, discussed look at who they. Are these are
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 9: people who have proven they can meet the.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: Moment but having.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 9: Said, that there's an open. Question clark sits with a
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 9: four shot lead right now going into the afternoon round On,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: friday and the wins will pick up in the. Afternoon
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 9: is he having A tiger?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: Moment you?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: Know tiger wins the ninety Seven masters by. Twelve he
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 9: wins the two THOUSAND Us open by. Fifteen are we
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 9: watching a moment where somebody runs away with and obliterates
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 9: a field in a major. Championship maybe yet to be.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 9: SEEN i think it's more likely that things bunch up
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 9: at the top of the leader board and That wyndham
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 9: comes back a little. Bit but having said, THAT i
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 9: could be very. Wrong he might run away with. It
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 9: he is a FORMER Us open, Champion he's already won
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 9: One Los Angeles Country club a couple of years. Ago
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 9: but everybody in the top ten right, now you figure
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 9: they're going to be in the mix On.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Sunday given what the scores look like right, now we could,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Double we could even. Triple we could quadruple the number
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: of players in history at A Us open At shinnecock
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: that have finished under.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: Par, yeah, okay If i'm Putting i'm giving you the OPTION,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: A b OR.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: C we will double that, number we will triple that,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: number we will quadruple that, number OR i guess less
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: than double like you would. Have it would take a
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys struggling through the. Weekend what is
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: the most likely outcome for?
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: You i'm gonna say? Double, okay, YEAH i go at.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: Least three of these guys will finish under Part.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: YEAH i can see that.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 9: An awfully lot more than. That the wind will have
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 9: to lay. DOWN i don't think that's going to. Happen
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 9: shinnacock is still. Shinnecock it's so. Hard do you have
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 9: a favorite hole or a favorite couple of.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Holes i'll be honest with, You, Paul i'm definitely not
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: going to sit down and watch the whole. Thing i'm
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: not going to sit down and watch a whole round.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow we're On.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Sunday but If i'm cherry picking the holes THAT i
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: want to watch to really give me something emblematic of
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: the shinnacock experience in THE Us, open which holes SHOULD
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: i be?
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 9: Watching let me make three quick comments about. That first of,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 9: all number seven is one of the great par three's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: in the. World it has what's called a Red dan
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 9: green complex, design but it is one of the more
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: severe Red dans in the. World it is so difficult
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 9: to get to the right spot on the green and
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 9: get the ball to stay in the right spot on the.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 9: Green so watch what happens at number. Seven second Observation
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 9: number eighteen is one of the great finishing.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: Holes in the.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 9: World regardless of where we get On, sunday if there
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 9: is any kind of open unanswered question remaining On sunday,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 9: evening eighteen will have a say in. It it is
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: just such a great and demanding finishing. Hole and THEN
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 9: i want to note a fascinating AND i think very
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 9: impactful design, characteristic giving the nature of the land they're
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 9: on there and the way the winds. Shift there are
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 9: three different sections of the course where the holes are
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 9: in triangular, shape three holes in a, triangle three holes
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 9: in a, triangle and then one that's four holes in a.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 9: Triangle and the purpose was to intentionally make the players
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: hit all sides of the, wind regardless of whatever direction
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 9: the wind might be coming from that day or that.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: Hour and so that.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 9: Characteristic of the course is one of the things that
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 9: makes it so, great and it's something to keep an
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 9: eye on as.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: WELL a lot less pleasant the thing to ask, About
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: BUT i want to make sure that before you get
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: out of, HERE i get at least a thought. On you,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Know Phil mickelson appears to be falling from grace and
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: now there's you, know a lot of. This he's disputing
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: the narrative, here and his lawyer's disputing the narrative. Here
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: how is, golf professional, golf the golf community handling what's
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: going on With Phil.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: Michelson it's.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: Sad phil is a great.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 9: Champion he has been a great ambassador of the. Game
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 9: he's one of the great thinkers of the. GAME i
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 9: Think Phil nicholson is a great person in the. Game
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: having said, that he also has demonstrated an ability to
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: exercise poor. Judgment AND i would just observe that as
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 9: soon as the lawyers are, involved when we are quoting,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 9: lawyers you've already. Lost it's a question you're negotiating the
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 9: terms of your. Loss And i'm afraid that that might
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 9: be where we are With. Phil it is so sad
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 9: to me that one of the great people in the
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: game historically will now have this big asterisk on his.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 9: Legacy i'm just sad about.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: It it's unfortunate to see whenever the great, athletes the
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: great achievers in any, sport you, know fall from that
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: pedestal that we put them.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: On back to THE Us, open BEFORE i let you,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Go Wyndham clark or the, field if you had to
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: take one heading in with a four stroke lead Into
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: saturday And, sunday what's you're.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: Taken i'm taking the.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 9: Field and no disrespect To Wyndham. Clark holy, cow he's
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: a great player and he's won A Us. Open THE
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 9: Us open he won at at the Lacc is was
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 9: in a fundamentally different kind of golf course Than. Shinnecock
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: but the reality is he's got a four shot lead right. Now,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: however in taking the, field even in the look at
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 9: all those major, winners you're gonna give.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: Me i'm gonna take that, Group.
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  Speaker 2: Paul.
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• 1:47:10
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• 1:47:13
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• 1:47:16
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• 1:47:19
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• 1:47:22
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• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: Considered, Yeah i'll Just i'll just ask this Of, tyson
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• 1:47:43
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  Speaker 1: Either i'm certainly not telling people that they just don't
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• 1:47:56
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  Speaker 7: BEST i, MEAN i appreciate this event for what it.
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• 1:48:08
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• 1:48:17
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• 1:48:20
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• 1:48:28
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• 1:48:42
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• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: about this tournament because there's plenty that are that are into.
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  Speaker 4: It BECAUSE i feel like in when there's other topics
• 1:48:54
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• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: think of, those those kind of things come to mind
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: for me a lot of times when people say that's
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: being shoved down their, throat there's it's just people are
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: just talking about. It they're not necessarily forcing you to
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: care about. It it's just it's just being talked. About
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: SO i just, wonder are we are being a little
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: too sensitive about people just talking about how cool this
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: is being In america or is? It are there people
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: really being way too aggressive being like why don't you
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: just understand the way that he said, it Which i'm
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: sure that's the case because he went out of his
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: way to say it that.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Way i'll just say that eight.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Seven seven three five three zero seven. HUNDRED i will say.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: This i'm gonna air a grievance about The World. Cup
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: this is a grievance THAT i have permanently with the
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: game of. Soccer, okay just stop. Flopping stop the, flopping.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: Man it really is. Embarrassing it is a, terrible terrible.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: Look and, honestly the effort these guys go to to
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: like fall in a theatrical way is far more danger
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: then just falling, down like when someone comes in with
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: a slide tackle and clips you on the shin or.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: Whatever, Yeah i'm sure that.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Hurts but the flailing and the fact that they like
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: twist their bodies as they're going down and they throw
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: their heads back with this big like they've been hit
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: by a, sniper knock it.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Off it really does need to.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Stop AND i was blindly hopeful that An american And
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: North american Hosted World cup might call it either more
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: onto the carpet and make people feel more self conscious
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: about it or. Whatever but in international soccer it is for,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: me it is the number one deterrent for learning to
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: love this game the way that other people. Do it's
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: LIKE mls, soccer it's not as bad this international soccer.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Stuff it is disgusting how bad it is ANY i,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: mean we're, Watching we're in the thirty sixth minute OF
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: usa Versus.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: Australia i've seen a couple Of american players do. It
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: knock it.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Off, yeah it's it's really bad Oc and it's it's
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: why when a lot of people can plain about the
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: prevalence of that kind of flopping in recent, years over
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: the last twenty years or so in THE, nba it's
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: WHY i don't really argue very much with those people
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: that SAY i just can't stand that, flopping because there's
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: so much like instead of just playing the, game there's
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: so much, like, WELL i gotta sell this so that
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: THE i make the ref see what's going. On i'm, like,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: well if you just play in THE, nba maybe more
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: shots go, in maybe you miss less layups because you're
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: not trying to sell a. Foul for, example if you
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: just play when you, soccer maybe maybe there'll be less.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: Injuries to your point about the exaggeration you're doing maybe
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: being a little more harmful than the actual damage that
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: you're taking from from the foul you're trying to sell, here,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: LIKE i just, it it. Is it is way too.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: MUCH i think THAT i Hope Oklahoma city is Forcing
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: Shay Gildess alexander to watch every single match so he
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: has to see what it looks. Like he's, like oh,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: man why are they doing?
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: That and then people are, like, dude you do the
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: same thing on a basketball. Floor so it's hard to
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: recognize errors in your own. Behavior it's always easy to
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: point it out for somebody else in somebody else's. Behavior
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: so my hope is that he's being forced to watch
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: all of this floppage in The World cup eight seven
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: seven three five three zero seven hundred air year, Grievances,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: JAMES i asked you to pull a SoundBite to air this.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Grievance i've been sitting on this all week do we have?
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: It we? DO i have it? Ready? Okay The New.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: York knicks won their FIRST nba championship in fifty three.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: Years the parade was. Yesterday The FINALS.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Mvp Was Jalen, brunson who looked incredible throughout the, playoffs
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: had a great series in the finals as.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: Well obviously he was Named FINALS, mvp LIKE i just.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: Mentioned and of, course part of the, storyline part of
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: the human interest piece here is, that you, know he's
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: got Some New york. Roots he's got a connection that
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of other players and a lot of other
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: people can't even begin to understand because his own dad
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: was A New York. Nick and then you, know you
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: saw the, pictures you saw the videos of his, dad
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: you saw the proud pop.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Up, well here's a piece of sound and Then i'll
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: air my.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 7: Grievance but just just take a listen To Rick, brunson the,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 7: dad and To Jalen, brunson and just, Yeah, james go
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 7: ahead and hit.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: IT i, Say jack was the greatest phrases.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: Nignty he.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: Was, yeah but he. Was he was a number one
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: pick in the. Draft but so you, EXPECTED i, mean
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: he left.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 13: To stop the argument to you, KNOW i love my Son,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 13: patrick the best nick That i've ever witnessed.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: That people like you know. It, well that's What i'm gonna.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: Say it's going to be.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 13: Debatable, No, no it's going to be debatable now because
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 13: because the other, thing you, know what he has done
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 13: is he is ignited a culture that was not.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: Lit it was the fuse was.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 13: There it WAS i called it the the lamp that
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 13: was plugged in with no, power and they just it
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 13: was Not it was no power In New.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: York and he brought the power To New. York if you.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: Want to clarify that someone besides your own son who
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: just won a, championship who just accomplished something that my own,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: beloved childhood favorite player was unable to, accomplish and, you
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: as the, dad want to point out, that, oh don't
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: don't give my guy too much credit, here don't give
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: my own son too much credit.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: Here the Greatest nick Is. Patrick THAT i have a
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: significant grievance with.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: That if you almost did, it if you almost won the,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: championship if you almost were the guy who pushed this
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: franchise over a hump That Patrick ewing never got them,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: over then, fine when somebody forces you into a corner
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: and asks you and makes you like you could tell the,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: truth even then you should lie and just say my
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: son is the best. One BUT i got a real
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: grievance with dad making sure that everybody knows that even
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: after what his son, did.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: He's not the.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Best Nick, LIKE i didn't have sports dad like this growing.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: Up my dad is just like he's a, nerd he's an.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Academic he's someone that enjoyed watching us play sports but
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: didn't really care if we were good or bad or.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: Whatever AND i never had that thing where your dad
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: was always, like, oh, yeah you better do.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Better you better score three touchdowns next, Time you better
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: hit two home runs next.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: Time what do you gotta do to Get dad's? Approval?
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Here if You're Jalen, BRUNSON i have agreements with, This James.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah and he also there's two different. Ways he didn't
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: really try to pump his or prop his son up
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: when everyone else was doing. It and the first WAY
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: i don't necessarily agree. With but what we caught at
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: the beginning there was inside THE nba people on that
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: panel were talking About Jalen brunson is the greatest free
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: agent signing IN nba, history and he decided to say
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: it's Not, jalen It's shack because he was a free
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: agent when he went to The, lakers and so he
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: pushed his son aside the two in this. Conversation and
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 4: then he goes in and, says and he's also not
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: the greatest nick by the, way that's my my former,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: Teammate Patrick. Ewing so, yeah it feels a little unnecessary
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: for him to do that in his son's big.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: MOMENT i hate.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: IT i, MEAN i cannot stand that his dad did.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: This that's, yeah to, me that is truly. TERRIBLE i,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Mean i'm, sure LIKE i have no. Context he's probably
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: a good. Dad they're probably of a great. RELATIONSHIP i don't.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: Whatever but, man in the moment on, television high profile,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: spot you're just, like, hey just so you guys, know
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: It's Patrick, ewing it's not my.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: Son.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: Grievance what this is the same, guy by the, way
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: who days earlier When steph When Stefan cassel decided to
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: get In Jayleen brunson's face and do a trash talk
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: and make it a little physical There game two went
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: all the way saw that and must have Thought Jayalen
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 4: brunson was still nine years old and getting little scuffle
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: on the playground because he walked all the way down
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: from The knicks bench to stand right next To Mitch
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: johnson basically on The spurs bench to try to, say
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: don't talk to my son like. That that's the same
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: guy who, said, well my son's actually not as great
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 4: as you guys are saying he. Is it's very. INCONSISTENT
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: i don't get.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: IT i don't like.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: It all, right if your dad don't be like completely
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: unrealistic in guessing your kids. Up but when your kid
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: is AN Nba FINALS mvp and champion and the impetus
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: for the first parade for The New York knicks in
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: fifty three, years let him have his.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: Flowers, yeah maybe you're not gonna you're not gonna give
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: him to.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Himimself just let him have him from everybody else and
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: keep your mouth.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: Shut, yeah maybe just let everybody say unreasonable things about
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: him if that's how you. Feel what if that's what
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 4: you feel about what they're, saying just let. Them just
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: let them have the praise that he's getting heaped. Upon
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 4: it looks Like Jalen brunson isn't feeling any bad about
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: that at, all and nor should.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: He he probably knows this is my. Dad it's. Whatever i'm,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: sure it's, fine.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i grew up with some people who had like
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: the hardcore sports, dads and it just became comical to
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: me how impossible it was for them to gain their
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: father's approval when they were like the best baseball player
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: or they had the most monster football game and their dad.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: Just be, like, well you should have done. This it's,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: like what do You you never did? That shut? Up,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: Man LIKE i remember.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: Being this arrogant seventeen year old just be, like why
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: are you saying that to my? Friend he's better than
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: you were at this. Game but you, know that's just
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: you and me.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: Both thankfully we did not have parents that were that
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: way with us in. Sports but you know, what on
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: the other, SIDE o, see maybe that's. Why maybe that's
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: WHY i didn't make my varsity team and you didn't
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 4: go as far in football as you thought you, did
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 4: but you you did it IN mma, Though SO i don't.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: KNOW i GUESS i don't. KNOW i.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: DON'T i think maybe that's WHY i had to CHOOSE,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: mma because you, know there's no. THERE mma hasn't been
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: around long enough for there to be the annoying sports
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: dads in MM. A, yeah like my generation is the
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: first annoying sports dads AT. Mma the guys that were
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: older than, me like, you there were there were no
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: people old enough to be my dad that WERE mma
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: fighters or champions EXCEPT i Guess Randy Cotur so literally. One,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: yeah there's like one guy that could have been annoying
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: sports dat also was a fighter and ended up with you,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: know pretty accomplished as a, fighter BUT i don't.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: Think he was the annoying.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: Kind.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 4: Update IN us Men's national Team World cup Against, australia
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: they had a goal momentarily called back va r check
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: the instant, replay, right that's what they for the soccer
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: novices like you and. Me that's what they call instant
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: replay is vaar. Uh they reversed. It it was called
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: back on off. Side they reversed the, call and it's
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 4: a goal to to Nil TEAM. Usa end of the
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 4: first half here forty ish forty sixth, minute not in
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 4: stoppage time, yet but about to enter stoppage.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: Time i'm sure to.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: Nil sorry all you koala folks down there In, australia
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: but it looks like layup might have been the correct
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: term for this. GAME a gotcha at least minor agreements
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: for me from Against Mauricio poschattino for wearing like a
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: cool guy outfit matching set instead of a shirt and
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: tie or a sport coat and, tie or a sport
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: coat with you, KNOW i guess like a FORMAL t
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: shirt underneath. It i'm a big. FAN i wish that
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: in THE nfl they still wore suits on the. SIDELINE
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: i wish that there was a college football coach would.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: Wear a to.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: See they don't even wear suits in THE nba, anymore
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 4: which is.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 7: Tragic that's such a cool look for a. Coach, yeah
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 7: and you see a.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: Lot of these world These World cup. COACHES i, mean even.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: If you go casual with the the tie and the
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: shirt sleeves rolled.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 4: Up i'm even cool with. That seven minutes of stoppage.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 4: Time by the, way they're through two of those so,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 4: far so still quite a bit of time left in
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: the first, half as it were a lot of stoppage.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: Time, yeah do you have any grievances before we get
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: out of? Here?
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, uh spent some time with the with some
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: friends and some of their family was around kids and
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 4: every every you, know a couple of the their siblings
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: had had lots of kids and so a lot of
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 4: little kids running. Around spent some time with with those people,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: recently and one of my friends was really upset with
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 4: was really bothered by one of their siblings who has
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: quite a few, children and they have their own, children
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: their own set of. Children they're like because their siblings
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 4: that this sibling would leave he and this in spouse
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: would leave the area and be and not even ask
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 4: permission to be, like, hey make sure you watch our
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: kids a little bit. Here they would just, leave and
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: so they're stuck watching the kids like this happens all the.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 4: Time AND i was mad on their behalf, Right i'm
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: like that this really is ridiculous that they that they
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 4: do this to. You so my grievance is against, parents
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 4: particularly those close enough to where they just feel like
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 4: they don't have to ask to take on five more
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: kids after you already have three or four of, you
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 4: LIKE i ALREADY i already got a lot. Here like
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 4: parents who don't ask permission and just leave their their
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: large amount of young children to just be babysit by other,
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 4: people like at least ask, hey we gotta we we
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: gotta go somewhere you're good to, watch, Right and of
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 4: course if it's if it's a family, situation they're probably
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 4: going to say, yes of.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: Course but.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: If you just like offer the courteous, Hey i'm gonna
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: go grab some, milk will you watch my kids for
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: a second when there's already other kids, there one hundred
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: percent of the time the other adult is gonna say.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: Yes but when it's just.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: NOT i have a we have some friends that we
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: that we will like sometimes go to a, cabin, right
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: and their thing is they they just their kids wake
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: up before anyone else's.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: Kids their kids wake up the whole. House they don't
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: wake up with the, kids so they don't have their
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: they don't take their. Kids, yeah it's the.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: Equivalent it's like they know someone else is going to watch,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: them so, like oh, COOL i get to sleep in
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: today because my kids are running around the house waking everybody.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: Up but you're gonna watch, Him SO i get. It
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: that's a.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: Grievance worthy people don't do it eight seven seven three
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: five three zero seven.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: Hundred it's just discourteous. O, See so let's.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 4: Just ask quite, discourty, like even though you know the
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: answer is, yes especially with, family just just give the
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: courtesy of tell Of at, least what it does is
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 4: it acknowledges. You the other person feels acknowledged, That, hey
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 4: this is actually not a small thing That i'm going
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 4: to have to do, here and you acknowledge that that's
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 4: the case and be, like, Hey i'm, sorry gotta do.
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  Speaker 1: uh do you have any grievances you want to?
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  Speaker 14: GOOD i heard you talking about parents who leave their
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  Speaker 14: children without asking anybody to watch. THEM i don't know
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  Speaker 14: if this is a, Grievance so let's just be honest about.
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  Speaker 14: Something not all babies are very, Cute so, like don't
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  Speaker 14: show me your baby picture if your kid is super,
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  Speaker 14: Because that's not a good, looking good looking, KID i
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  Speaker 2: Not all kids yeah good.
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  Speaker 1: i even like ugly. Babies so, like show me the
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  Speaker 1: picture of your ugly, baby And i'm going to acknowledge
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  Speaker 6: Yeah i'm not saying you dislike the.
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  Speaker 6: KID i very much like children in my.
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  Speaker 1: You, Okay so we were talking About utah football Commit
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  Speaker 1: Diesel dart earlier on the show. Today all, right and
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  Speaker 1: it's Like Brandon. Dart he he was a college football.
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  Speaker 1: PLAYER i don't know what his wife was, like but,
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  Speaker 1: like so you got a fifty percent chance if your
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  Speaker 1: dad's a d one athlete that you're gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. Athlete it's still a risk to be naming
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: your Kid. Diesel, okay it just, Is, yeah it. Is
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: did you grow up with anyone that had one of
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  Speaker 1: talking About Hans olsen's Kid, rock where like that one
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty high percentage. Move BUT i know a
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  Speaker 1: couple of Different, Diesels, Bronco mendenhall kids all have like these,
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  Speaker 1: crazy like cool masculine, names and you're, really it's a
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  Speaker 1: risk you're, taking all? Right they got to live up
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  Speaker 1: to that In diesel darts, Case he's. Fine did you
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  Speaker 1: grow up with anyone who were just, like, wow that
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  Speaker 1: was a choice to have your kid named LIKE i don't,
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  Speaker 6: Managers is the. ECOSYSTEM i grew up In.
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  Speaker 1: Washington your name Is hercules, YOU i guess if You're polynesian,
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  Speaker 1: again you're you're probably okay taking that. Risk but if
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  Speaker 1: your name and your kid hercules and your kid ends
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  Speaker 1: up being, LIKE i don't, know, small then you really
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  Speaker 1: you've really kind of hurt them for the rest of their.
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  Speaker 14: Life, yeah they kind of only have one, pathway and
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  Speaker 14: if they don't end up like fulfilling that, pathway maybe
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  Speaker 14: changing the name is the way to.
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  Speaker 6: Go but, Yeah, diesel.
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  Speaker 14: His first is that is that is his true first
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  Speaker 14: full name Is, DIESEL i, believe so all. Right, yeah
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  Speaker 14: ultimately you're slotted in you're a football player or else
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  Speaker 14: you're probably gonna be changing your.
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  Speaker 3: Name.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah my wife has a cousin whose kid's name Is,
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  Speaker 1: diesel and dad is not that.
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  Speaker 2: Big mom is not that.
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• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: so maybe it's manifest destiny. Thing maybe it's one of
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: those like hidden, influences and you've created that monster child
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  Speaker 1: by naming them something that their biology then knows it
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  Speaker 1: has to live up.
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  Speaker 14: To or you could have been named after AN lds
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  Speaker 14: prophet and just let your entire family. Down it's also
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  Speaker 14: an Several spencers around my age In, utah Several spencers
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  Speaker 14: in their late, forties and then that name kind of
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  Speaker 14: just went away because.
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  Speaker 6: We were all named AFTER. W.
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  Speaker 2: W kimball.
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  Speaker 14: Uh and then there's not a lot of like Younger
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  Speaker 14: spencer's it's it's a name that's not very.
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  Speaker 6: Popular like your name Is, evergreen there will always Be.
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  Speaker 6: Sean's it's a good name.
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  Speaker 2: THAT i, mean it's it's just like The irish version Of.
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  Speaker 1: Square so you know what's funny IS i never actually
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  Speaker 1: put THE i didn't realize the link between your first
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  Speaker 1: name And spencer tunes first name and like guys that
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  Speaker 1: are in that age Demographic.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 6: Spencer lanke never, YEAH i never.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: CAN i never connected those two things BECAUSE i was
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: not of the predominant.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 6: Faith, yeah there was.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 14: Like a three year period where there were a ton
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  Speaker 14: Of spencers and then none at.
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  Speaker 6: All you, know now there's a lot Of.
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  Speaker 14: Dallens you'll notice Some, dallens you, know because there's the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah so in the, culture you.
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  Speaker 14: Have the tendency of naming the sun after one of
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  Speaker 14: the leaders and then just hoping the sun doesn't screw it,
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  Speaker 14: up and then what he, does you just you let everybody.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: Down it's not.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: Fun, NOW i want to know how many bears there
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  Speaker 1: are going to be named in the state Of, utah
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: specifically in probo because it worked for The. Bachmeers they
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: got a, tiger they got a, bear they got you,
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: know it worked for. Them but if you're a, fan
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  Speaker 1: you better make sure you're a fan of a certain
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: ilk or, else like your kid might not be able
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  Speaker 1: to live up to the name.
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  Speaker 2: Bear there were quite a.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 14: FEW i can, remember more than a, few Like, stockton's
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 14: either as a first or at middle. Name have a
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  Speaker 14: family that went a little heavy with the jazz. Stuff
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  Speaker 14: what would the ute equivalent? Be there gonna be any?
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 14: Wits are we done with the? WITS i think we're
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  Speaker 14: probably done with the.
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  Speaker 1: Wits, okay, Look morgan morgan is it's a great gender
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  Speaker 1: neutral name.
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  Speaker 3: Too it.
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  Speaker 1: Is so If morgan lives up to what he can
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: be and what we, think then there might be a
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: lot Of. Morgan's what if there were ever any? Gimmers
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: there were some. GIMMERS i have a, friend a high
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: schooluddy who named his Kid taso. Them, okay that's a,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: choice very very. Provo although Tays and grew up an. Ido, right,
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  Speaker 1: YEAH i think, So but that's the same, thing ye,
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  Speaker 1: fair provo are the? Same no?
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  Speaker 2: Notes?
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  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Dalton remember? Uh Like dalton's a good.
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  Speaker 1: Name there's probably like if you go back to just
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: five years, ago bet there were a lot Of utah
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: fans that had Had cameron's coming. Out you, KNOW i
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: have a four and a half year old daughter whose
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: name Is, cameron but that wasn't why But. Cam there's
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: probably some some kids that were influenced by The Cam rising,
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  Speaker 1: phenomenon The Dalton kincaid, phenomenon The Brant keithy.
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  Speaker 2: Phenomenon maybe you'd have.
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 14: To be a Real iHeart fan to name your child
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  Speaker 14: after the quarterback or somebody that plays for a favorite
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  Speaker 14: college football.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: Team, yeah you, would you.
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  Speaker 6: Would but we love the, Fans we need the. Fans
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 6: we enjoy the.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: Fans you, Know, shaquille the Name, shaquille there's a ton
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: of shacks, Now, yeah you know the. Name the Name
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: shaquille basically did not exist In american lexicon Until shaquille.
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  Speaker 2: O'Neil did you know?
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  Speaker 6: THAT i did not know. THAT i am learning that
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 6: in real time as of right.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah his parents basically invented the Name shaquille and
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: popularized it because, he's you, know a seven foot two inch.
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 14: MONSTER i feel like there's an inordinate amount Of Kobe's,
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 14: now if you hear the yea Dam kobe quite a
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 14: bit coming. Up what was the influence for you and
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 14: naming your your? Daughters any any background?
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: There, now it was just finding names that my wife
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: AND i would agree.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: On it turns out we have opposite tastes and nearly,
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: everything including the names of our, children so we just
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: found the only names that we could agree.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 6: ON i guess she went out in the final. Tally
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  Speaker 6: that's a good.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 14: Guess, okay, good, well happy, Wife, sean happy, wife proud of.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 10: You.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, WELL i got to attach the middle names to
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: each of.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 14: Them, okay well that's not. NOTHING i mean it makes
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 14: you feel like you're part of the, thing so that's.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 14: Good it's like the Participation. Trophy you can have the
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 14: middle name, babe go, ahead.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Great, Anyway, spence have a great, Show thanks, buddy all
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: of you out there, listening have a great. Weekend thank
• 2:16:34
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