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The DiCecco Daily: Two Prospects Who'd Be Good Fits For The Eagles · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Everyone, Welcome into another episode of the check O Daily.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: Andrew decheco Eagles beat reporter Friendsidethebirds dot Com and we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about a couple of different things today. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like a Schmrgesborg, if you will, of topics.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to get into specifically a prospect on
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  Speaker 2: offense and a prospect on defense as it pertains to
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  Speaker 2: the NFL Draft and why I like the player and
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  Speaker 2: their fit for the Philadelphia Eagles. The first player is
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  Speaker 2: a wide receiver by the name of Ted Hurst. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he went to Georgia State, and years ago when I
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  Speaker 2: was covering the different conferences, I focused on the Sun
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  Speaker 2: Belt Conference a lot, so I was privy to the
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  Speaker 2: Coast of Carolina guys and just a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: type of players that kind of go under the radar.
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  Speaker 2: So I was sort of clued into Georgia State and
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  Speaker 2: Ted Hurst I was aware of. He goes to the
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  Speaker 2: Senior Bowl and by all accounts perform as well there.
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  Speaker 2: But this is a six foot four, two hundred plus
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  Speaker 2: pound wide receiver had seventy one receptions for over one
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  Speaker 2: thousand yards and six touchdowns last year.
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  Speaker 1: And what I like.
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  Speaker 2: About him is his ability to separate. He can get vertical.
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  Speaker 2: You like the length, he's a very lengthy wide receiver,
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  Speaker 2: but he can really stretch teams and put a unique
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  Speaker 2: stress on defensive backs.
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  Speaker 1: But he's explosive.
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  Speaker 2: Off the line. I like his ability after the catch.
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  Speaker 2: He'll attack the catch point. He tracks the football well.
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  Speaker 2: He's a big time football player that I think you
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  Speaker 2: can move around formations and his best fits going to
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  Speaker 2: be on the boundary. But I think the explosive qualities
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  Speaker 2: and his ability to win in contested cats situations makes
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  Speaker 2: him a really interesting prospect. And I think you're going
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  Speaker 2: to see him go a little bit higher than you
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  Speaker 2: might suggest, or then.
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  Speaker 1: His school might suggest.
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  Speaker 2: Because of the tools that he has, I think he
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  Speaker 2: can be a number two and a high end number
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  Speaker 2: two wide receiver at this next level. And you may
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  Speaker 2: look at the school and that would be you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you may.
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  Speaker 1: Come to a conclusion.
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  Speaker 2: But they always say scout the player, not the helmet,
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  Speaker 2: and ted Hurst is one of my favorite wide receivers
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  Speaker 2: in this draft class. Just go back to what Greg
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  Speaker 2: Cosell had to say about him. I believe his best
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  Speaker 2: football is ahead of him and there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: more that he can do from a route running perspective,
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  Speaker 2: as I should say route tree. He wasn't asked to
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  Speaker 2: do a ton at Georgia State, and he was able
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  Speaker 2: to win exclusively on just being better than everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: But there's nuanced to his game. I could see it there,
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  Speaker 1: and I.
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  Speaker 2: Know that if you get him into a pro system
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  Speaker 2: around NFL coaches there are going to work with him
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  Speaker 2: to really maximize his ability and even take it to
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  Speaker 2: another level. So keep an eye on him. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's someone that is going to is going to have
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  Speaker 2: a long career, and I like the fit in Philadelphia
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  Speaker 2: because you have Deavonte Smith. He can sort of do
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  Speaker 2: it all. He's a three level threat, one of the
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  Speaker 2: best route runners in the game, and criminally underutilized, I
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  Speaker 2: think in this offense at least in years past. And
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  Speaker 2: Hurst gives you someone who can take the top off
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  Speaker 2: of a secondary, a bigger bodied guy, a lengthier type
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  Speaker 2: of guy, and I believe that he could still add
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  Speaker 2: some strength to his frame to really fill that out.
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  Speaker 2: But I believe that those two would compliment each other well.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not including aj Brown this conversation, but for
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  Speaker 2: right now, he's on the Eagles, and he would also
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  Speaker 2: be obviously in the mix, so that would be quite
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  Speaker 2: a wide receiver trio. And then you have Hollywood Brown
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  Speaker 2: and you see where you go from there. Darius Cooper.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I like the fit a bit and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not exactly sure. I want to say probably third round
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  Speaker 2: for him, but he has the upside that to me,
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  Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me if he goes late too. But
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  Speaker 2: that's the You're starting to hear his name a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: You get that late serge before the draft, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that there will be a team who really values
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  Speaker 2: what he brings from a size, speed perspective and maybe
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  Speaker 2: takes him a little bit higher than where he's being
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  Speaker 2: projected currently. On the defensive side, I would say defensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: He's really a defensive tackle. Caleb Procter at a Southeastern Louisiana.
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  Speaker 2: But what I like about him six foot two, two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and ninety one pounds, He's quick, he's explosive. You
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  Speaker 2: talk about his first step quickness and hand utilization. He's
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  Speaker 2: disrupted behind the line of scrimmage. He had thirteen tackles
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  Speaker 2: for loss last season and nine sacks. That's another name
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  Speaker 2: that you're starting to hear creep up boards a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more, but I was, you know, he was on
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  Speaker 2: my radar going into the draft process, and the more
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  Speaker 2: that I watch him, the more that he kind of
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  Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit of Moro Jomo. And size
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  Speaker 2: that Jomo is right around two ninety two ninety five ish,
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  Speaker 2: but the quickness, the violence with the hands, the ability
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  Speaker 2: to provide pressure from the interior and just be sort
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  Speaker 2: of a disruptive force and use the size and leverage.
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  Speaker 1: To your advantage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of reminds me a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: Moro Jomo. And when I look at the Eagles defensive
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  Speaker 2: line situation, I've talked a lot about this, but you've
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  Speaker 2: invested in Jordan Davis, a big payday awaits Jayalen Carter.
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  Speaker 1: What about Moro Jomo.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's very difficult to envision the Eagles being able
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  Speaker 2: to afford to pay all three players, and a Jomo
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  Speaker 2: offers a skill set I'm talking about the pass rush
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  Speaker 2: aspect of his game that typically commands more money from
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  Speaker 2: prospective suitors, and so it might be a little challenging
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  Speaker 2: to keep Moro Jomo. But this is a good spot
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  Speaker 2: for the Eagles in round four, right around pick one
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  Speaker 2: thirty seven to add a player that gives you rotational
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  Speaker 2: depth but can be someone who can undertake sort of
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  Speaker 2: a Moro Jomo roll down the line. And I think
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Procter is a really interesting player. He has a
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  Speaker 2: number of thirty visits coming up. The anticipation in buzz
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  Speaker 2: is starting to build around him, and I just like
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  Speaker 2: his ability to be a disruptive force and also the
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  Speaker 2: movement ability, the lateral agility that he has. It's an
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  Speaker 2: appealing factor for a defensive lineman. And again, I think
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  Speaker 2: he might be another player I mentioned Ted Hurst. Wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: surprise me at all if Caleb Proctor is someone who
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  Speaker 2: goes a little bit higher than what.
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  Speaker 1: He's currently being projected as.
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  Speaker 2: So I kind of if you're looking for an Eagles comparison,
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  Speaker 2: I would I would say sort of like a Moro
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  Speaker 2: Jomo type of player, might be a little bit longer.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that he has a Jomo's arm length,
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  Speaker 2: because Caleb Procters is thirty three inches.
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  Speaker 1: I think moros are a little bit longer than that.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're looking for numbers, he ran the forty
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  Speaker 2: yard dash at two hundred and ninety one pounds at
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  Speaker 2: four seven nine. His ten yard split was one six'.
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  Speaker 2: Eight he had a thirty three inch vertical and a
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  Speaker 2: nine to five broad. JUMP i know that there are
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  Speaker 2: some who are curious as to how he, tested and
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  Speaker 2: he was A Southern Conference player of The, year as
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  Speaker 2: one might expect with the thirteen and thirteen tackles for
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  Speaker 2: loss in nine, sacks and he even got his hand
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  Speaker 2: up there a little. Bit he had a couple of pass,
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  Speaker 2: breakups and SO i think that he does have some
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  Speaker 2: really intriguing athletic.
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  Speaker 1: Qualities and you.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder about his build and how that might contribute to
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  Speaker 2: his inefficiencies to consistently, anchor and that's a valid. Concern
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  Speaker 2: but we're talking about a projected fourth round, pick not
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  Speaker 2: a down in and down out. Starter and if you're
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  Speaker 2: looking for a complimentary, piece players who can add some
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  Speaker 2: juice and get after the quarterback are going to be in.
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  Speaker 2: Demand and SO i think that he would be a
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  Speaker 2: really good fit. There and this is an, aside it
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with this, podcast But Ty, robinson
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  Speaker 2: last year's fourth round, pick is someone who's under the
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  Speaker 2: microscope for me going into twenty twenty six because of
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  Speaker 2: you could potentially add a player to that.
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  Speaker 1: Group and if they.
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  Speaker 2: Do and you already Have Byron young and you're committed
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  Speaker 2: To Jordan Davis jay When carter is a standout A
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  Speaker 2: jomo is entrenched in his, role what would that mean
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  Speaker 2: For Ty robinson in year, two for a twenty five
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  Speaker 2: year old defensive tackle that's played.
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  Speaker 1: Sparingly it's something to think.
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  Speaker 2: About but that's kind of WHERE i, am AND i
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  Speaker 2: wanted to mention those two players and make sure you
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  Speaker 2: check them out if you get a. Chance but then
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  Speaker 2: THE hbcu and The International Pathway program also held a
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  Speaker 2: showcase which was a pro day for THE ipp, guys
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  Speaker 2: and that was at The Washington commander's facility in Late.
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  Speaker 2: March there's a couple of players who really helped themselves.
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  Speaker 2: THERE u are Spelled Uar bernard And Joshua. Waru bernard,
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  Speaker 2: is as someone told, Me Javon, gopi WHO i spoke
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  Speaker 2: to the other, day who was a pass rush specialist
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  Speaker 2: and AN nfl consultant and he works with THE ipp.
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  Speaker 2: Guys he's in his first fourth, YEAR i should, say
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  Speaker 2: working with that. Program he has a lot of background
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  Speaker 2: on both and SO i reached out to him to
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  Speaker 2: add some more context to the workouts and get some
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  Speaker 2: of a back. Story where are, they, like what's their
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  Speaker 2: background and how did they find these? Players because to,
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  Speaker 2: me that's always something THAT i find to be really.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting and so we'll start WITH THU.
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  Speaker 2: R bernard and he's six foot four and a half
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and six pounds and he has an arm
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  Speaker 2: length of thirty five and three quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Inches that's.
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  Speaker 2: Insane he hit a four to six y three in
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  Speaker 2: the forty yard, dash a thirty nine inch vertical and
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  Speaker 2: a ten foot ten inch broad, jump and he had
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  Speaker 2: thirty one reps on the bench. Press he's a native
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  Speaker 2: Of nigeria and he played basketball growing. Up he was
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  Speaker 2: a forward and a. Center he lost his, father and
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: you couple that with growing up around a modest income
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  Speaker 2: and the way That gopie explained it to, me it
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: sort of ignited a fire Inside bernard that he wanted
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  Speaker 2: to take this opportunity and really seize it and and,
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  Speaker 2: go you, know per be able to set his family
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  Speaker 2: up and himself up for long term.
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  Speaker 1: Success and, so, yes he was a basketball player growing.
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  Speaker 2: Up and when they Found bernard he was still two
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  Speaker 2: years he was under he was.
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  Speaker 1: Underaged he still. Was he didn't meet the age.
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  Speaker 2: Requirement they discovered him two years, ago but while he
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  Speaker 2: was playing, basketball he began working out with the understanding
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  Speaker 2: that a future opportunity would be.
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  Speaker 1: IMMINENT i mentioned him losing.
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  Speaker 2: His father and what that meant to, him and he's
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: now in a position to flip that script and position
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  Speaker 2: himself for long term security and for the security of his.
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  Speaker 2: Family AND i think if you want to hear about
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: what his singular focus, WAS i have a quote here
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  Speaker 2: That gopi told, me and it was right ahead of
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: THE i popping. Workout he, Said, Coach i'm not going
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  Speaker 2: back To.
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  Speaker 1: Nigeria he was.
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  Speaker 2: Determined he maximized the opportunity with all thirty two teams on.
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  Speaker 2: Hand and here's a funny, anecdote BECAUSE i think this
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  Speaker 2: adds some more context to. It there was a pretesting
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  Speaker 2: session In london back In october and they were unable
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: to find a pair of shoes that were sizable enough
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  Speaker 2: to House bernard's, feet and he resorted to attempting the
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: vertical wearing only, socks and he still soared to thirty eight.
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  Speaker 2: Inches so he's viewed as a interior four eye at
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  Speaker 2: the next, level and he has been in demand in
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: the ensuing days from. That he has visits on the
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: docket with The Indianapolis colts And Denver, broncos and AS i,
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  Speaker 2: understand others are rowing. In The eagles have also shown
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: interest in, him and they boast the face of THE
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  Speaker 2: ipp program And All pro left Tackle Jordan and What
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  Speaker 2: gopi told me is That milatta has frequented The Training Facility,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: hub which is located to Extrae performance In Physical therapy
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  Speaker 2: In Fort, Myers, florida and he's been a very prominent
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  Speaker 2: resource for the current group OF ipp, players preparing them
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: for what's ahead and doing whatever he can to kind
• 13:22
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  Speaker 2: Up the other ipp prospect AND i talked about him
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: a second. Ago was Is Joshua uru who is an edge.
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  Speaker 2: Rusher that's his profile and he's six foot, four two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty four, pounds comes from a rugby.
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  Speaker 1: Background he's A kenya. Native.
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  Speaker 2: Well he recorded a four four or five forty yard
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  Speaker 2: dash and posted a forty one inch vertical and an
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: eleven to two broad, jump and his arm length measured
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  Speaker 2: in at thirty three and a quarter inch and he
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  Speaker 2: had twenty two reps on the bench. PRESS i mentioned
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  Speaker 2: his size, well he profiles as an edge rusher at
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  Speaker 2: the next level and in. Preparation WHAT i learned is
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  Speaker 2: that he would watch film of pro rushers With gopie
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: practically every other day over the past three, months Including
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Denver's Nick, Benito New York's Brian, burns And Philadelphia's Nolan.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Smith he talked about how the tenacity that stems From
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: maru's rugby, background along with his, explosiveness, intelligence and eagerness
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: to learn as obvious positives that should help him translate
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  Speaker 2: to the next. Level The Las Vegas raiders And Arizona
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: cardinals have shown early interest and other teams are expected
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: to join The. Fray AND i should also add That,
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  Speaker 2: uru Like, bernard should also be viewed as A day three,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: candidate which should appeal to a team searching for that
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: multiple ball clay with potential upside in the final. Rounds
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  Speaker 2: so there's just a spotlight on two ipp prospects that
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: you probably are going to start to hear about in
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the coming days if you haven't. ALREADY i wrote a
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: story about it On inside The birds Dot. Com there's
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: some insight there into those, guys And i'm always fascinated with.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: THAT i did a story.
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  Speaker 2: WHERE i did some digging when The eagles brought In
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: lake And, vakalahi just to learn more about.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Him And.
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  Speaker 2: I'm drawing a blank on the players on the tackles
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: name that The eagles had last, Season Luke. Man it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: going to bother, me but, yes his name. Was his
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: first name Was. Luke But i'm always interested in that
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: because when you have a player on The eagles roster
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: And Jordan, malatta who is one of the best stories
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of development that you could. Find The eagles have the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: player development staff in place and the, structure and they
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: have a good eye for, talent and so either one
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: of those players wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me if with
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: their final pick On day, three if they were to
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: look at a player like that and just kind of
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: bank on the upside and you're coaching staff getting the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: most out of, them because they're both really young at
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: twenty one years. Old AND i just read for you
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  Speaker 2: the eye popping testing numbers that they were able to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: kind of put out, there and there's a reasonable upside
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  Speaker 2: for both.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Players but right, now IT'S. U.
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  Speaker 2: R bernard who's drawing a lot of praise and is
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: sort of the name that's popped up that you're probably
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  Speaker 2: not familiar with that you're seeing a lot more on
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  Speaker 2: social media and you're seeing some stories about. Them so
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  Speaker 2: those are two guys right. There feel free to look
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  Speaker 2: into them a little bit. More and just the possibility
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  Speaker 2: of what they could potentially be or what they what
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  Speaker 2: a team could do with that kind of athleticism is
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  Speaker 2: fascinating on its.
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  Speaker 1: Face but for, now that's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Do it for this episode Of The Checho Daily Andrew
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  Speaker 2: decheco and we'll catch you all on the next.
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