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Lawsuits Challenging Trump Admin. Policies | Layoffs Are Piling Up · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: It and you get to hear some of the crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: A quick story, some quick stories we're looking at that
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  Speaker 2: are trending. A partial government shutdown is underway, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to last very long.
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  Speaker 2: And the President has said, I said this yesterday, that
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  Speaker 2: Performing Arts for a couple of years while they are
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  Speaker 2: renovating it. And he said he's falling apart, and no
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  Speaker 2: one's refuting that, by the way, but I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the problem is that no one's showing up either.
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  Speaker 2: Tickets are not being used, the performances are half empty.
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  Speaker 2: In many cases of performers are bailing out. Okay, let
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  Speaker 2: me talk about AI, which we've done for ever since
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  Speaker 2: it started.
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  Speaker 1: It's big news.
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  Speaker 2: But what happens with AI is you need data centers,
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  Speaker 2: giant ones that are powering AI, which means these centers
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  Speaker 2: are popping up over all over California, and there are
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  Speaker 2: now fights in communities that don't want to live near them.
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  Speaker 1: This is NIMBI on a huge level.
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  Speaker 2: And this has become an increasing question because there is
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  Speaker 2: a battle going on right now and it's a little wonky,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll try to unwalk it. Unwonk it and Imperial County,
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  Speaker 2: tiny little county that is poor, and a court fight
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  Speaker 2: has erupted between the city and the county. And this
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  Speaker 2: facility is going to be built, by the way, a
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  Speaker 2: million square feet of.
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  Speaker 1: A computing center. Okay, think of.
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  Speaker 2: That, and it's going to be built on county ground,
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  Speaker 2: unincorporated parts of the county, not in the city. Here
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  Speaker 2: is the issue. And by the way, I've already been
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  Speaker 2: zoned for development. But here is the problem. That's seventy
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  Speaker 2: five acres of which this computing center is going to
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  Speaker 2: basically fill up that the county wants and has already okayed.
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  Speaker 2: The City of Imperial has gone to court and said nope,
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  Speaker 2: we don't want it now. Can they stop it? Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Can they slow it down? Oh big time? Because here
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  Speaker 2: is the lawsuit, and it's is just one of many.
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  Speaker 2: This lawsuit says that there wasn't an environmental impact study
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  Speaker 2: done as to how neighbors are going to be impacted
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  Speaker 2: by the enormous amount of energy, the cooling towers, the
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  Speaker 2: water that's neat and the neighbors. The city is saying
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  Speaker 2: we don't want any part of it. The county and
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  Speaker 2: the people who are building it, who have joined together,
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  Speaker 2: I have said, but look at the jobs that we're creating,
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  Speaker 2: look at the tax space we're creating. And in fact
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  Speaker 2: that's absolutely true, except look at the downside. We know
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  Speaker 2: the upside, not necessarily the upside of AI per se,
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  Speaker 2: but the kind of computing that is necessary. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: it's also used in navigation, it's also used in weather forecasting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: AI is going to change the way well already has,
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  Speaker 2: but it's going to change the way we live and
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  Speaker 2: do business in a major, major way. We are just
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  Speaker 2: at the tip of the barrel of monkeys. That on
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  Speaker 2: the camel's hump. That where we're going to go with AI.
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  Speaker 2: So Cornell University released a study twenty thirty the rate
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  Speaker 2: of AI growth will actually put twenty four to forty
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  Speaker 2: four million metric tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: That's five to ten million cars. It would also use
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  Speaker 2: up to one point one two five million cubic feet
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  Speaker 2: of water meters of water, and that's used by ten
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  Speaker 2: million Americans.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: And so the study also found that that amount of
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  Speaker 2: impact can actually be reduced enormously just to a smarter
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  Speaker 2: sighting and planning of the facility. Well, the folks who're
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  Speaker 2: building it say, we've done exactly that. We're using reclaimed
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  Speaker 2: water to cool the computer center, which needs enormous amount.
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  Speaker 2: But they want to be changed to California's They don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be chained to California's environmental laws, saying, come on,
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  Speaker 2: is everything going to stop in California because of restraintictions.
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  Speaker 1: The answer is yes.
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  Speaker 2: The answer is absolutely yes, And anybody can stop a project.
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  Speaker 2: You know how to stop a project for years and
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  Speaker 2: years and years. You ask for an environmental impact study,
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  Speaker 2: which has to be done with major projects. The impact
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  Speaker 2: study comes out two years later, and then you appeal
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  Speaker 2: it and bring in your own impact study that goes
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  Speaker 2: the other way, and then you go to court and
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  Speaker 2: then you appeal that decision, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: whatever project is there has just been delayed five years.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what's happening. And if we're going to go
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  Speaker 2: forward with AI, if we're going to go forward with
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  Speaker 2: this computer, these computer this computer growth, you've got to
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  Speaker 2: have these massive centers. You can't do it any other way. So,
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  Speaker 2: assuming we have to have it, what does that mean,
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  Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you what it means. I want it
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  Speaker 2: in your backyard. You can live next to one of these.
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  Speaker 2: You can buy a property which, by the way, the
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  Speaker 2: builder saying, you knew it was zoned for it was
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  Speaker 2: zoned for business, this property next to you, and they're saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we knew it, but we didn't think it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be that and that much. More than six hundred
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  Speaker 2: cases have been filed against the Trump administration and President Trump.
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  Speaker 2: The New York Times has been tracking every single one,
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  Speaker 2: and that since he's returned to office in January twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. He's been in office one year, six hundred cases,
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  Speaker 2: and if you extrapolate times four, you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: twenty four hundred cases. There hasn't been anything close to
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  Speaker 2: what this president is going through in terms of lawsuits.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I don't think in eight
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  Speaker 2: years of any other president.
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  Speaker 1: See there have been this many.
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  Speaker 2: Cases filed literally over the entire tenure of other presidents.
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  Speaker 1: And so who is filing?
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  Speaker 2: Who are the folks immigrants challenging their removal from the country,
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  Speaker 2: States asking the courts to unfreeze billions of dollars in
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  Speaker 2: congressionally approved appropriated funds, schools and universities arguing against the
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  Speaker 2: attempts by the administration and sometimes successful attempts around speech
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  Speaker 2: and research on their campuses and dealing with their DEI
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  Speaker 2: programs or sometimes non DEI programs that just sound like
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  Speaker 2: DEI programs. The Times itself is sued over the restrictions
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  Speaker 2: that the Defense Department is imposed on reporters covering the military.
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  Speaker 2: For example, Pete headsec Has said to The New York Times,
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  Speaker 2: you are not going to have your reporters there. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, you can't publish anything unless I give
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  Speaker 2: you the okay to publish. I mean, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: insane or where do you think that went? Now, there's
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  Speaker 2: sixty six hundred and seventy seven active status judges in
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  Speaker 2: the federal judiciary.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about district court judges.
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  Speaker 2: They're on the front lines of this clash between two
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  Speaker 2: branches of government. The two branches that they're in clash
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  Speaker 2: with is their branch, the judiciary and the president. Is
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  Speaker 2: there any clash between Congress and the presidency.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. President Trump owns the Republican Party straight out.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, the Speaker of Speaker of the House, has
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  Speaker 2: said outright, my job as speaker is to further Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump's agenda straight out. Wait a second, aren't you supposed
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  Speaker 2: to aren't there checks and balances. Aren't you supposed to
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  Speaker 2: look at what's appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: If the president wants it, the president gets it, and
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  Speaker 2: he's in the majority, so that is a little problematic.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 2: The judiciary is really looking at the rising threats to
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  Speaker 2: their safety. That's the other thing, and that is if
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  Speaker 2: you go against Donald Trump, you will get death threats.
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  Speaker 1: That's a given. You've heard that over and over again. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Is that to say that the president is encouraging death threats?
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. Is that to say that.
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  Speaker 2: The followers of Donald Trump are all crazy people?
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  Speaker 1: No, but there are enough out there for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So what's happening is people have complained, those who are
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  Speaker 2: arguing against the against Supreme Court because the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: likes overriding rulings. This is judiciary going against their own court,
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court, because the rulings happen on what's called the
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  Speaker 2: emergency docket, where the White House requests the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: to rule immediately on a given topic, for example, whether Ice,
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  Speaker 2: whether the Ice attempts or ICE operations can continue on
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  Speaker 2: while the underlying case is being heard arguing that what
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  Speaker 2: Ice is doing is unconstitutional. Okay, we'll hear it at
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  Speaker 2: some other point. It's on the docket, but you're allowed
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  Speaker 2: to do it right now until we hear it. And
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  Speaker 2: the Court has done that over and over again. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: without ruling on the final merits, which are going to
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  Speaker 2: be coming down in the next few weeks on some
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  Speaker 2: of them and coming down in June on others. And
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  Speaker 2: so the president, how does the president do of these? Well,
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  Speaker 2: of the five hundred and nine active cases going on
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  Speaker 2: the administration, the policy has been halted one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty nine times, about thirty percent the seventy percent of
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  Speaker 2: active cases, the policies remain in effect. As I just said,
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  Speaker 2: due to the emergency docket situation. Appeals court judges and
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  Speaker 2: not district courts. The next level of Appeals Court have
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  Speaker 2: actually treated Trump more favorably than the district courts. The
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  Speaker 2: judiciary that's most against Donald Trump is the district court judges,
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  Speaker 2: which is the bottom rung. Appeals Court is a next
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  Speaker 2: step up before the Supreme Court. So it's district court judges,
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  Speaker 2: Appeals Court judges, Supreme Court, and then there's some other
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  Speaker 2: things in bank. Do you want the entire appeals court?
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  Speaker 2: I thinkst twenty seven or twenty nine members of the
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  Speaker 2: Appeals Court, and usually it's a three judge panel. And
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  Speaker 2: so fifty one percent of the time the Appeals Court
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  Speaker 2: has been in favor of President Trump. In twenty four cases,
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court started to contemplate the Trump agenda, mostly
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  Speaker 2: considering whether even the issue temporary orders allowing it to
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  Speaker 2: take an effect. Out of twenty four Trump's succeeded twenty
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  Speaker 2: one times, but all of that was on the emergency docket.
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  Speaker 1: Now, is the Court going to go against Trump?
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  Speaker 2: Well, in a couple of areas, it looks that it
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  Speaker 2: looks like it's not going to be in favor of Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And the way you know which way the court goes
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  Speaker 2: is by way of the questioning.
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  Speaker 1: When you see when you hear can't see.
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  Speaker 2: When you hear questions by the justices towards one side
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  Speaker 2: or the other, you can generally tell which way it's going.
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  Speaker 2: In two cases, the Court took a pretty skeptical tone.
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  Speaker 2: One involved reshaping the entire economy by unilaterally imposing tariffs.
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  Speaker 2: The Constitution says only Congress can impose tariffs. Trump has
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  Speaker 2: said he can impose tariffs outside of what Congress is
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  Speaker 2: hours are court has to decide that. Also, this one,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know why the Court is hearing this.
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  Speaker 1: This one stuns me, truly.
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  Speaker 2: And that is Trump signed an executive order revoking birthright
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  Speaker 2: citizenship in straight out violation of the fourteenth Amendment that says,
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  Speaker 2: on its face, anybody born in the United States is
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  Speaker 2: a citizen of the United States, and Trump is arguing
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  Speaker 2: that does not extend to anybody born who is born
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  Speaker 2: of an illegal migrant. I don't even know where you
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  Speaker 2: go on that one. I don't think there's much interpretation.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's plenty of interpretation of the Second Amendment
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  Speaker 2: and the First Amendment, plenty of interpretation the Tenth Amendment
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  Speaker 2: giving States rights that the federal government doesn't have. Plenty
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  Speaker 2: of those. Then the women given the right to vote,
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  Speaker 2: for example. Now, whether you agree with that or not,
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  Speaker 2: as you know what side I'm on. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: women given the right to vote was the worst day
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the United States, the day that
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  Speaker 2: was ratified.
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  Speaker 1: But there is no discussion. What are you going to
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  Speaker 1: how is that interpreted? Either they are or they're not.
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  Speaker 2: And the birthright citizenship the court's hearing it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: I do not get it all right. A couple of
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  Speaker 2: things we're looking at. There's a partial government shut down.
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  Speaker 2: It's happened, but it's going to end very quickly where
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  Speaker 2: we probably won't even notice it. And educators in La
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  Speaker 2: Unified School District have voted to authorize a strike months
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  Speaker 2: of stalled contract talks, and that's the union said this
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  Speaker 2: time for a strike. We're gonna see more and more
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  Speaker 2: of these strikes coming up, just simply because the way
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  Speaker 2: the economy is going now. Talking about the economy, layoffs
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  Speaker 2: s are piling up and workers are feeling increasingly anxious
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  Speaker 2: about the job market. And this has a lot to
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  Speaker 2: do with politics, I mean a lot. We know that
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  Speaker 2: prices are going to affect the midterms big time.
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  Speaker 1: Inflation is going to be a big one.
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  Speaker 2: My immigration, assuming it doesn't change, is going to affect
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  Speaker 2: the midterms. Now, the fact that layoffs are coming hot
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  Speaker 2: and heavy. Is that going to affect the midterms? Are
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  Speaker 2: the politicians going to be blamed? Read the Republicans going
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  Speaker 2: to be blamed for the fact that the layoffs are
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  Speaker 2: coming like crazy? Amazon slash sixteen thousand jobs last Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: corporate jobs three months after laying off fourteen thousand. Why
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  Speaker 2: because Amazon is saying they're restructuring. Why because of AI primarily,
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  Speaker 2: And that's going on across the board. And who gets
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  Speaker 2: blaming for it? Well at this point, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And if I go through the list of the companies
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  Speaker 2: that are laying off, it's pretty dramatic. Ups claiming or
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  Speaker 2: cutting thirty thousand jobs this year, Tyson Foods closing.
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  Speaker 1: A plant thirty two hundred people.
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  Speaker 2: The job losses in Lexington, Nebraska, third of the population
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  Speaker 2: of the entire town of eleven thousand HP between and
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  Speaker 2: four thousand and six thousand employees part of a wider initiative,
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  Speaker 2: including adopting a Verizon laying off more than thirteen thousand
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  Speaker 2: in November. Why restructure structuring Nestley, the biggest food company
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  Speaker 2: in the world, sixteen thousand jobs globally. Novo Nord Dusk,
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  Speaker 2: the company that makes the fat pills Ozempic and Wagovi
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  Speaker 2: one thousand jobs, eleven percent of its workforce. Intel expected
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  Speaker 2: to end or did end seventy five thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Coworkers or core workers through layoffs and attrition.
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  Speaker 2: And that's down from ninety nine thousand that were bailed
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  Speaker 2: at the end of twenty twenty four, so fifteen percent
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  Speaker 2: workforce reduction. Procter and Gamble seven thousand jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Over the next two years.
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  Speaker 2: Microsoft first one six thousand last year, then another nine
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  Speaker 2: thousand same year. General Motors seventeen hundred jobs, sky Dance
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  Speaker 2: to Paramount a thousand, that's no big deal, Target eighteen hundred,
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  Speaker 2: no big deal. And then we Oconnoco Phillips twenty six
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  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty two hundred. Lufthansa is shedding four thousand jobs.
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  Speaker 2: And what is going on? Well, people are sweating bullets.
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  Speaker 2: Is your job? Is your job safe? And you know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people are saying no, their job is
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  Speaker 2: not safe. AI is changing a lot of stuff and
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  Speaker 2: some jobs, matter of fact, shouldn't be safe. You know
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  Speaker 2: people should be worried about their jobs. Will Cole Schreiber.
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  Speaker 2: Why because we can get AI to do the traffic
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  Speaker 2: much more successfully and much more accurate than, for example,
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  Speaker 2: will another job.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, of course it is, but it's true.
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  Speaker 2: Another job that is that I think at risk is Kno,
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  Speaker 2: because the board can be operated by AI.
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  Speaker 1: Yet another job.
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  Speaker 2: Here would be Amy, where the news certainly can be
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  Speaker 2: gathered by AI and produced with voice not voice recognition.
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  Speaker 2: I guess yeah, and Anne has going to have a
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  Speaker 2: real problem. So the only person left is going to
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  Speaker 2: be me, and I'm fine with this. I have to
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  Speaker 2: tell you I have no problem with AI coming.
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  Speaker 1: In a would against you.
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  Speaker 3: The last thing you need to replace me with is
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  Speaker 3: AI fact checking.
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  Speaker 1: You'd never you'd never be able to do this show
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  Speaker 1: with an act. Okay, so let me ask you fact
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  Speaker 1: I am protected. Cono. Do you have a contract, No,
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  Speaker 1: you're gone, Amy. Do you have a contract? Okay? So
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  Speaker 1: when is your contract up? Can I ask this year? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: You're gone, Neil contract. I don't do contracts by history cost. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: then your history and contract? No, I know, I'm okay,
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  Speaker 4: there you are there you are job attrition.
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Uh This is a story of how you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to survive, and it has to do with the Affordable
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  Speaker 2: Care Act Obamacare. As we know, Obamacare expired on December
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  Speaker 2: thirty first of last year, so it's only been gone
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  Speaker 2: for a month, and that means the federal money that
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  Speaker 2: Obamacare gave to people. And this was during COVID is
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  Speaker 2: when all of these additional moneies were thrown into the pile.
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  Speaker 2: And those additional moneies have disappeared, and therein lies this
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  Speaker 2: huge controversy of the federal government cutting Obamacare. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: federal government let the increased lapse. I mean, that's more realistic.
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  Speaker 2: And so this is a double hit for those people
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  Speaker 2: that received and do receive Obamacare. The federal government still
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  Speaker 2: has say in money that goes to these individuals. It's
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  Speaker 2: just not the same. And it has said to the states,
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  Speaker 2: you take over. If there is an issue of insurability,
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  Speaker 2: it ain't our problem, it is yours. And California, of
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  Speaker 2: course is getting nailed the worst as you would imagine.
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  Speaker 2: And California is now looking at billions of dollars to
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  Speaker 2: maintain the terms the Affordable Care Act, and the deficit
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  Speaker 2: is going to be eighteen billion dollars this fiscal year,
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  Speaker 2: so it's got to come from someplace. And as I said,
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  Speaker 2: it's even more complicated than that because the government is
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  Speaker 2: set up. This is a federal government has set up
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  Speaker 2: some newly imposed red tape where only people that are
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  Speaker 2: eligible are who are not eligible are who now are
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  Speaker 2: receiving able body men who are not involved in childcare,
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  Speaker 2: able bodied people I think between the ages of eighteen
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  Speaker 2: and it was now it's forty five or it used
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  Speaker 2: to be fifty four, and just made it more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: There are more requirements.
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  Speaker 2: So not only are fewer people are eligible, but the
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  Speaker 2: ones that are eligible have to every six months submit
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  Speaker 2: that they have met the requirements under the new federal
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  Speaker 2: guidelines and the promise. The problem is, as people who
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  Speaker 2: are looking at this is this is complicated stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that just don't have
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the wherewithal you ever made an application to a governmental agency.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: For anything, I mean, it can be overwhelming.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: And so California, which is hit the most, has to
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: not only make up if it wants to maintain the
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: terms of the Affordable Care Act the benefits that are given.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But also help people apply.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And this is where the experts are saying, wait a minute,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: this is way too difficult. I mean, the bottom line
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: is that the administration in terms of safety net issues
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: is not a big fan. They are not a fan
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  Speaker 2: of people who don't have the wherewithal, don't have the money,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: don't have the ability to pay. And in terms of healthcare,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and we know our system is broken. I'm going to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: end with the same story that I always talk about
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  Speaker 2: health care and you tell me that this is the
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: greatest healthcare in the world.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Lindsay and I last summer were in Italy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: We're in Palermo, the capital of Sicily, and Lindsay has
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: some lung issues where she snorts this, you know, the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: nebulizer thing to clear her lungs. She had an attack.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: We went to the emergency room in Palermo, Italy. The
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: weight to get in was about forty seconds from the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: time we walked in the door to see a doctor.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: The first thing they did was run an IV. That
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: was within a minute before doing anything. They ran an
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: IV to see if they had to do a blood test,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to see if they had to send some saline down
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to hydrate her. They put a nebulizer in within three
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: minutes because she had trouble breathing, you know over the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: mask that has medicine and water and vapor that she
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: breathed and the doctor thought she should see an ent
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: because there may be blockage, there may be an issue.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So he refers us to an eent right your nose
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and throat specialists, who is upstairs. We walk up the stairs,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: we walk into the office and the doctor with a
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: scope shoves it down her lungs to look from the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: time we walked in to the time we walked out,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and this is world class medicine. We got was one
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: hour and fifteen minutes and we have the best healthcare
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Tell that story.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: We get people from other countries laughing, saying that was
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: for a small thing. If you have anything that is real,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: it's the most horrible system.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I do you know what I say?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You win Once no, my daughter in Spain.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: We were in Madrid when my daughter a little.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: One, and guy was swinging around on those rails that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: people stand in line to get on airplanes kind of thing,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and there was a little piece sticking out. She was
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: swinging herself and she got this huge cut on her
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: head and had to go to the doctor. Uh they
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: had a hospital. This is a Madrid or International. They
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: had a hospital, full hospital in the airport, ambulance service
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in the airport who took her uh to the.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Emergency room and she was sewn up. We made the plane.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: We made the plane. The European emergency rooms are great.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: That's what you've learned.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I have so we have the best system in the world.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: We're done, guys. That's it. We're done.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: It's just I think we have a broken system, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I do think it's to be single payer.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I do think that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Always have some from the day I started broadcasting, We're done, guys.
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