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Steve Price | 7 March · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live.
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Speaker 2: This is Steve Price. Good on you, Denikier. Welcome to
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Speaker 2: Friday Night. Steve Price with you of course, as Cyclone
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Speaker 2: Alfred continues to threaten northern New South Wales and southeast Queensland,
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Speaker 2: we'll have all the latest in the next hour plus.
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Speaker 2: We've got an angry traveling public in Victoria wanting to
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Speaker 2: know how someone to get on board a passenger jet
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Speaker 2: allegedly armed with a shotgun. Where was security? Let's get
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Speaker 2: stuck into what we're doing tonight. Coming up. He was
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Speaker 2: the very public face from Lismore during the twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: two flood crisis, and now the local mayor, Steve Kreeg
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Speaker 2: again finds himself and his community at threat of floodwaters
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Speaker 2: and destructive winds. Steve will join us in just a
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Speaker 2: sec plus. Further north, Brisbane is in the firing line,
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Speaker 2: of course, of Cyclone Alfred, expected to cross the east
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Speaker 2: coast now sometime tomorrow around lunchtime. Former Queensland Premier and
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Speaker 2: Friday Night regular Campbell Newman on how his city is
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Speaker 2: actually preparing and while the people of Melbourne are demanding
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Speaker 2: their government do something about youth crime. It's a crisis
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Speaker 2: with people afraid at night in their own homes. And
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Speaker 2: it's election day of course tomorrow in WA, with Labor
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Speaker 2: seemingly cruising to victory first. Though, while Queensland and New
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Speaker 2: South Wales deal with a natural disaster, in Western Australia
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Speaker 2: votes Victorians are asking what the hell is the state
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Speaker 2: Labor government doing about machette wielding teenagers breaking into homes,
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Speaker 2: terrifying people in the dead of night and then stealing
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Speaker 2: their cars. The Herald's arm this week ran a disturbing
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Speaker 2: photograph on page one of a hooded home invader carrying
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Speaker 2: a deadly machete as long as his arm. That photograph,
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Speaker 2: I think captured on a family security cameras, has come
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Speaker 2: to symbolize all that is wrong with Victoria's broken bail system,
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Speaker 2: a social collapse that's being fed by social media, a
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Speaker 2: play police force simply can't cope, and an incompetent government
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Speaker 2: that's got no answers. Instead, we have politicians from the
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Speaker 2: premier down refusing to answer questions about individual cases of
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Speaker 2: bail and promising change without any detail at all. Now,
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Speaker 2: in my view, it is only a matter of time
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Speaker 2: before someone gets killed here, and I don't say that lightly.
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Speaker 2: It might be a homeowner inclined to refuse to hand
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Speaker 2: over their car keys, or a homeowner so angry that
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Speaker 2: some teenage boy try hard, armed with a knife, has
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Speaker 2: dared break into their castle, their home, and why wouldn't
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Speaker 2: you be angry. Or it could be the teenager attacked
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Speaker 2: with one of his own weapons. So if Premier Allen
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Speaker 2: and her Attorney General or police minister or Youth Justice
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Speaker 2: minister think the public are angry, now wait until someone dies.
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Speaker 2: Wait until that happens. This has simply got to be
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Speaker 2: attacked in a different way because what's happening right now
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Speaker 2: is not working. And the change bail laws changed by
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Speaker 2: the way, by that Labour government in twenty twenty three
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Speaker 2: and brought into action in twenty twenty four, well that's
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Speaker 2: to blame. They change the laws and the laws simply
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Speaker 2: don't work. Guess what they say now. They tried to
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Speaker 2: make bail laws fairer to wait for it, reduce the
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Speaker 2: impact on women, children and Aboriginal people. That's why they
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Speaker 2: changed the Bail Act. All that's done is create a
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Speaker 2: revolving door spun by magistrates unwilling to lock up these kids,
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Speaker 2: despite the majority of them being repeat offenders. We will
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Speaker 2: catch up with the oppositions. Police spokesman David Southwick in
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Speaker 2: the studio later, and I want to ask him what
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Speaker 2: would the coalition, if elected, what would they do about
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Speaker 2: the sale of knives and machetes Google as I did
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Speaker 2: this week machetes for sale near me and you will
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Speaker 2: be staggered at how easy they are to buy and
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Speaker 2: how cheap they are. Banning those would be a start.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: As I said, tropical psyche Olfred is predicted to make
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Speaker 2: landfall sometime around lunchtime on Saturday, maybe just north of Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: The thousands of people across southeast Queensland now many without power,
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Speaker 2: lots of hundreds of houses, beaches are being washed away.
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Speaker 2: We just saw vision there of the Gold Coast beaches.
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Speaker 2: High tides are expected. Local flooding is now a great fear.
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Speaker 2: Now for more, I'm joined by Sky News reporter Harry
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Speaker 2: Clark's in Cleveland on Brisbane's bayside. Harry, I saw Paul
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Speaker 2: Murray on the beach just before down on the Gold
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Speaker 2: Coast at broad Beach. You're back up nearer to Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: What's it like there right now?
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Speaker 1: Can I see well?
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Speaker 4: As we speak, Tropical Cyclone Alfred's about one hundred and
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Speaker 4: twenty five kilometers off the coast and moving ever so slowly.
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Speaker 4: As you say, I'm a bit further up. I'm on
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Speaker 4: the bayside east of Brisbane, on the coastline there, right
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Speaker 4: on bay and there's a whole lot of residential islands
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Speaker 4: that are coming in and out of view as the
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Speaker 4: rain starts to cut in from this cyclone. As it
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Speaker 4: comes in from the east. It's starting to pick up.
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Speaker 4: Although I've been saying that for days now that you know,
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Speaker 4: you think the winds starting to come in, the rain
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Speaker 4: starting to pick up. All of a sudden, the sky opens,
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Speaker 4: blue sky again. But tropical Cyclone alf It is getting
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Speaker 4: closer now, expected to cross some time tomorrow, and the
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Speaker 4: rain that brings with it will last for up to
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Speaker 4: thirty six or forty eight hours.
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Speaker 3: That's the concern at the moment.
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Speaker 4: The wind predictions have dropped back a little and the
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Speaker 4: storm surge levels have also dropped back a little bit,
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Speaker 4: well a little bit. Well, it's the rain that's the
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Speaker 4: big concern, because it's moving so slowly and because it's
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Speaker 4: going to linger over the crossing the coat points for
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Speaker 4: a longer period out here at Cleveland, it's one of
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Speaker 4: the bayside suburbs right at the firing line.
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Speaker 1: Actually it's going to hit the.
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Speaker 4: Bay Morton Bay Islands first, but people have come out
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Speaker 4: as on the eve of tropical cyclone survival, people having
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Speaker 4: the sticky beak is the ocean starts to angrier and
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Speaker 4: the rain starts to come in. See a constant stream
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Speaker 4: of cars here out on the on the lighthouse and
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Speaker 4: people just coming out to take photographs and take what's
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Speaker 4: slowly surely has been become a cyclonic here. There have
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Speaker 4: already been power down across the southeast Queensland area forty
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Speaker 4: six hours something, thirty five thousand of those down on
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Speaker 4: the Gold Coast. Last parts of the Gold Coade have
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Speaker 4: had telecommunication outages twenty six ay tower as they call
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Speaker 4: for mobile phones are out. So we are starting to
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Speaker 4: feel the effects and there are thousands of sees and
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Speaker 4: Ergon Energy Energy's workers trying to mobiles and amend those
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Speaker 4: problems with the power outages and telecommunications outages as we speak.
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Speaker 4: But here is the storm surgees even though they're going
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Speaker 4: to be a little bit lower, a lot of low
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Speaker 4: lying homes that could see some water coming.
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Speaker 1: Through the cyclone raws nearer.
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Speaker 2: Harry, just before you go, how worried to authorities that
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Speaker 2: you've got there's lull Everyone thought it was going to
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Speaker 2: be pretty wild today it's now going to be tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Are people being lulled into a false sense of security.
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Speaker 4: Being reminded by the authorities, the govern authorities and the
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Speaker 4: authorities that this cyclone is coming. There hasn't been talk
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Speaker 4: of it weakening. They've started to say that it might
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Speaker 4: be as windy in parts, and the storms are just
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Speaker 4: dropped down a little bit. But we're being assured that
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Speaker 4: tropical cyclone outfit will cross the code bring with it
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Speaker 4: large amounts of rain. It's taken a lot longer to
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Speaker 4: get here, but the preparations we're being told by authorities have.
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Speaker 1: Been done well.
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Speaker 4: People are heating the warnings and preparing their homes for
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Speaker 4: what's to come. Now at the point of wait and
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Speaker 4: see what happens, it is taking a bit longer, but
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Speaker 4: people are just sort of now in anticipation of what's
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Speaker 4: going to happen, how the region is going to respond,
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Speaker 4: and where the rain is going to fall, where the
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Speaker 4: wind's to be the worst it's going to get.
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Speaker 2: Good luck with that, Harry, thanks for joining us tonight.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Lismore now in northern New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: The evacuation orders are in place there. They've been issued
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Speaker 2: for residents across the Northern Rivers region. Now searches underway
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Speaker 2: as we understand, for a man that was washed into floodwaters.
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Speaker 2: Now this is further south from Lismore. This happened a
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Speaker 2: further south. His four wheel drive was swept off a
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Speaker 2: place called wild Cattle Creek Bridge. He managed to exit
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Speaker 2: the vehicle and grab onto a tree, but he has
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Speaker 2: since been swept under water. Let's hope that he's found
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Speaker 2: safe and well. The Lismore CBD also at risk again
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Speaker 2: of flooding, only three years on from those devastating floods
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Now, tragically I got to know
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Speaker 2: Lismore Mayor Steve Kreeg too well. Back then he did
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Speaker 2: an outstanding job and it would be giving him nightmares
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Speaker 2: hearing stories about people being swept out of trees. He
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Speaker 2: prosecuted his case for his community. They barely, if at all,
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Speaker 2: in some cases, recovered from what happened back then. And
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Speaker 2: here they go again. Steve Greig joins me now. Good
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Speaker 2: to see him again, my old friend. I wish I
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Speaker 2: wasn't talking you about this. You think it's going to
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Speaker 2: be maybe not as bad as everyone thought.
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Speaker 5: Oh, price here, it's really hard to predict. To be
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Speaker 5: honest with you, it's good to see you again, mate.
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Speaker 5: The forecast keep changing. That leads to all of this
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Speaker 5: uncertainty in our community.
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Speaker 3: What I can say is.
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Speaker 5: That lis More, the CVD, the residents, they're all breaking
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Speaker 5: for the worst.
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Speaker 3: They're prepared for the worst.
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Speaker 5: There's badly behind me, all the cars driving pasts of
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Speaker 5: these disaster, the tourists that like to go and check
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Speaker 5: out the rising floodwaters and the winds just picking up
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Speaker 5: as we speak.
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Speaker 3: But it's a bit sporadic at the moment.
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Speaker 5: But last night was pretty wild and we're expecting tonight
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Speaker 5: to be worse, so encouraging everyone to stay at home,
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Speaker 5: stay safe and batten down.
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Speaker 3: The hatches, so to speak.
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Speaker 2: You're old mate. The premier Chris Mind's was Zea Dio
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Speaker 2: saw you standing there with him addressing the media. Is
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Speaker 2: he stumping up? You've got what you need so far.
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Speaker 3: Pricey, We've had a few quiet chats on the side.
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Speaker 3: Don't worry about that. We need to do better.
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Speaker 5: One thing that I will say, and I gave them
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Speaker 5: state and federal governments a bit of a wrap today
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Speaker 5: because you know, the things that were so badly missing
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Speaker 5: in twenty two, the evacuation centers, all of those state
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Speaker 5: government agencies that we need in a time of crisis
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Speaker 5: have actually been deployed early.
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Speaker 3: We've got the ADF on Stampo.
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Speaker 5: We've got nearly one hundred and fifty odd troops in
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Speaker 5: and around the region, which is fantastic. We're not going
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Speaker 5: to be waiting for weeks on end like we were
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two. So there have been lessons learned.
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Speaker 5: There's still a long way to go. And I'm in
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Speaker 5: the premiere and the Prime Minister's here about making sure
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Speaker 5: that they fund the work that we need as far
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Speaker 5: as flood mitigation, which was promised three years three years
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Speaker 5: ago and as yet no guarantee that that work will happen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're showing some stock of footage of what happened
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. It just reminds me of how
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Speaker 2: bad it was. It reminds me how your community just
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Speaker 2: got smashed. You were made all sorts of promises, you're
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Speaker 2: telling me that mitigation work was it funded and not
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Speaker 2: done or not funded and not done.
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Speaker 5: We're waiting on a scientific report from the CSIRO, but
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Speaker 5: it has the potential if the funding is not allocated now,
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Speaker 5: because it's a big body of work. We need four
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Speaker 5: or five year budget allocation to be able to pay
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Speaker 5: for for the recommendations out of the CSIRO report to
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Speaker 5: make sure that liz More in the whole region of
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Speaker 5: the northern New South Wales is much better protected. But
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Speaker 5: as you say, there was a lot of promises made
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Speaker 5: and there's very few things that I could take you
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Speaker 5: to to make you feel better about the work that's
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Speaker 5: been done in around Lismo three years on, and I've
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Speaker 5: copped a few sprays while I've been down in the
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Speaker 5: CBD from a few angry residents who you know, fair
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Speaker 5: enough they need to vent and local governments are closest
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Speaker 5: to the people, I guess.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's.
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Speaker 5: Pretty hard and pretty heartbreaking when you're gearing up just
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Speaker 5: three years on from the vision that we're seeing now
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Speaker 5: and no real mitigation works being done yet, and here
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Speaker 5: we go again.
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Speaker 2: Supermarket's been pretty much stripped, I guess. Residents you know
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Speaker 2: they're trying to prepare as best they can. Is downtown
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Speaker 2: liz More on the lower side still the area where
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Speaker 2: you're most worried about.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're hoping that the levee doesn't overtop, and the
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Speaker 5: current forecast is that it's should protect the CBD where
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Speaker 5: that's the best case scenario that our levee doesn't overtop.
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Speaker 3: But South and North is more residents.
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Speaker 5: It's really hard to predict what's going to happen over there.
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Speaker 5: The scenes of the five hundred and fifty odd state
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Speaker 5: government owned buyback properties now, so the residential situation is
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Speaker 5: vastly different to what we're facing three years ago. But
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Speaker 5: they're the properties that are probably in the in the
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Speaker 5: firing line with this this particular event. But of course,
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Speaker 5: if the CBD overtops, it's just going to devastate our
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Speaker 5: whole If sorry, if the levee overtops, it's just going
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Speaker 5: to devastate our.
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Speaker 3: Whole CBD community.
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Speaker 5: Many people over capitalized to make their properties far more
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Speaker 5: flood resilient. Of you know, there's many stories of second mortgages,
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Speaker 5: the finance.
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Speaker 3: Keeping their business is going and the like. So another
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Speaker 3: another run again.
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Speaker 5: Through with floodwater through this av day will break a
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Speaker 5: lot of people.
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Speaker 3: That's for sure.
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Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you again, my friend. I
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Speaker 2: hope the levy holds and you look after yourself, and
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Speaker 2: hopefully we won't need to talk to you this time
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Speaker 2: next week. Got on you, Steve the mayor of Lismore there,
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Speaker 2: Steve Krug, who's done an outstanding job since twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to some international affairs now and we'll come
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Speaker 2: back to the cyclone shortly. The US Envoy Steve Witkoff,
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Speaker 2: this is Donald Trump's envoy. He's now preparing. We're told
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Speaker 2: to meet with Ukrainian officials. Now they're going to do
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Speaker 2: this outside of Ukraine. They're going to do it apparently
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Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia. Are they going to discuss a potential
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Speaker 2: piece deal with Russia joining me now? Strategic Analysis Australia
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Speaker 2: Director Peter Jennings, What do you make of Witkoff and
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Speaker 2: this plan? Can it work?
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Speaker 1: Do you think? Well?
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Speaker 6: I hope we'll have ano opportunity for some of these
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Speaker 6: negotiations to happen away from the cameras so that they
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Speaker 6: can get to real brass tax talking about what needs
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Speaker 6: to be done. I think it is correct now that
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Speaker 6: Ukraine understands it does need to find some way to
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Speaker 6: a pe steal, Steve. But I think they'd have more
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Speaker 6: confidence in dealing with the United States on that if
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Speaker 6: we could get some evidence that Trump and his team
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Speaker 6: in Washington were pressing the Russians as well, for example,
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Speaker 6: to stop their attacks, to understand what concessions on land
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Speaker 6: Russia might be prepared to make. That's how negotiation works,
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Speaker 6: after all. It can't all be about forcing the Ukrainians
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Speaker 6: to give things up. So I think we've come back
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Speaker 6: from where we were a week ago with that disastrous
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Speaker 6: Oval Office press conference, if that's what you can call it, Steve.
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Speaker 6: But now we're at a point where some careful thought
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Speaker 6: and some hard discussions have to be had privately in
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Speaker 6: order to give space to understand what Ukraine can do,
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Speaker 6: what Russia can do, the role the Europeans will play,
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Speaker 6: and the role the Americans will play. It's pretty complex
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Speaker 6: stuff and it's not going to be solved in just
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Speaker 6: one meeting in Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 2: So pretty you'd imagine that. One of the big sticking
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Speaker 2: points is, you know, if this American envoy says, well,
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Speaker 2: you guys, you know you've fought a really good fight.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing. You know, Putin thought he'd roll you over
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Speaker 2: in three days, but here we are three years later.
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Speaker 2: But you're going to have to give up some territory.
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Speaker 2: That's going to be a major sticking point, surely, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: I think the Ukrainians understand that they will have to
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Speaker 6: give up some territory, and you know, in one respect,
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Speaker 6: it's not necessarily that bad for them because if they
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Speaker 6: lose the Russian speaking, Russian supporting part of their population,
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Speaker 6: it's going to actually make political life easier, and it's
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Speaker 6: left of the European facing Ukraine. So they will be
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Speaker 6: prepared to give up some territory in return for what
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Speaker 6: President Zelenski was asking Donald Trump about, which is security guarantees.
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Speaker 6: And I think that's where if progress is going to
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Speaker 6: be made. That's what needs to happen, is to give
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Speaker 6: some sense of where are the Americans really on security
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Speaker 6: guarantees beyond just saying well, we're going to have economic
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Speaker 6: interests in the country.
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Speaker 2: We know Donald Trump loves a dearly, likes to negotiate,
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Speaker 2: and you know he was talking about these rare earth
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Speaker 2: minerals and this contract that they were going to sign
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Speaker 2: with with Ukraine, and he made the point when he
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Speaker 2: was talking about that that there could be Americans working
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Speaker 2: on those projects within Ukraine, and then those Americans would
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Speaker 2: have to be protected and he wouldn't stand for any
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Speaker 2: incursion by the Russians. I mean, that might be one
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Speaker 2: good road to go down, mightn't it.
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Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, And it's worth reminding the audience that in fact,
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Speaker 6: it was Ukraine which proposed the idea of a rare
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Speaker 6: earth steal some little time ago. And I think it
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Speaker 6: is a good deal. I think Zelensky was badly briefed
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Speaker 6: himself when he went into that Oval Office discussion, not
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Speaker 6: understanding that what was really needed at the time was
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Speaker 6: polite nodding and then go sign the deal and see
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Speaker 6: what could be negotiated beyond that in terms of European
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Speaker 6: security assistance, and I would think some American assistants as well.
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Speaker 6: But a core American economic interest in the future of
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Speaker 6: an independent Ukraine is a good thing. Trump is absolutely
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Speaker 6: right about that, and I think the Ukrainians acknowledge it.
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Speaker 6: So it's all the side issues that now need to
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Speaker 6: be dealt with, most particularly military security.
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Speaker 2: What do you read into the President backing off on
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Speaker 2: the tariffs on Mexico and Canada. He's given them a
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Speaker 2: month now to sort it out. I'm not sure exactly
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Speaker 2: how they're going to do that. They've got to prove.
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Speaker 2: I suppose that they're going to stop the illegal was
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Speaker 2: going over the boar and the drug trade. Is this
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Speaker 2: again showing that Trump's a deal maker and he's happy
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Speaker 2: to happy to say, well, maybe I was a bit
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Speaker 2: too impetuous there, let's talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I mean Trump is never going to be sort of
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Speaker 6: held to task for things he said in the past,
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Speaker 6: and the deal moves on Steve pretty quickly. I understand
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Speaker 6: we're in this situation now, particularly because auto industry leaders
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Speaker 6: were making the point to Trump that this is going
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Speaker 6: to be incredibly difficult for them to deal with from
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Speaker 6: the Canadian side, because the construction sector is so intimately
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Speaker 6: tired that there are tariff goods that will cross the
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Speaker 6: border multiple times before they end up inside a finished
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Speaker 6: American SUV, for example, and you know, working how that
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Speaker 6: can now be.
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Speaker 2: Sort of carved out.
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Speaker 6: I think as part of what's going on here, I
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Speaker 6: also think it's very strange that all of this is
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Speaker 6: tied to fentanyl which is a desperate problem for the Americans,
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Speaker 6: but virtually none of it comes north from Canada. More
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Speaker 6: comes from Mexico, but the Mexicans are now pledged to
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Speaker 6: provide military assistance to secure the border. So will Canadian
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Speaker 6: and Mexican tariffs be the big problem in a few
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Speaker 6: weeks time, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: I think that.
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Speaker 6: They well may be negotiated away. And what's going to
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Speaker 6: be left then is all the Chinese tariffs, which is
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Speaker 6: probably the core interest that Trump needs to pursue.
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Speaker 2: Peter, great to catch up. Thank you for your help
20:40
Speaker 2: tonight now coming up after the break. I would have
20:42
Speaker 2: thought I would have been sitting here tonight talking about
20:44
Speaker 2: an election being called probably tomorrow by the Prime Minister
20:47
Speaker 2: at the latest Monday. But no, he now faces pressure
20:50
Speaker 2: to hold off calling that election as cyclone Alfred approaches.
20:54
Speaker 2: He would he do it while cyclone's on a way?
20:57
Speaker 2: Who knows? Plus the latest newspol suggests way Labor is
21:00
Speaker 2: heading for a major victory tomorrow. But are things as
21:04
Speaker 2: bad as they seem for the Liberals? We'll try and
21:06
Speaker 2: find out. Welcome back to Steve Price with you. I
21:11
Speaker 2: will get back to that issue of Victoria and baile
21:13
Speaker 2: Lau shortly but joining me now former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman,
21:17
Speaker 2: who is in his hometown of Brisbane. Good to see
21:20
Speaker 2: you again. What is it with these lunatics who turn
21:24
Speaker 2: up at beaches, particularly down on the Gold Coast, putting
21:27
Speaker 2: their lives at risk and putting the risk of people
21:29
Speaker 2: who are trying to keep them safe. And it's crazy,
21:34
Speaker 2: It is crazy.
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Speaker 7: There's been some extraordinary saying so on social media and
21:38
Speaker 7: on the TV news Steve, they really have put their
21:42
Speaker 7: lives at risk, but as you say, most importantly those who.
21:45
Speaker 2: Have to go in and rescue them.
21:47
Speaker 7: I shouldn't have been exposed for that sort of risk
21:50
Speaker 7: because of someone's foolishness. I watched David christp fully the Premier,
21:55
Speaker 7: dealing with this. I think he's dealing with a very
21:57
Speaker 7: measured way, but he's clearly frustrated.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be. And anyone who's doing that just
22:05
Speaker 2: needs to pull their head in and go home. We
22:08
Speaker 2: weren't sure you're going to be able to make it
22:09
Speaker 2: to the studio tonight, obviously you have. Frustrating is not
22:14
Speaker 2: the right word. How unusual is it that this thing's
22:17
Speaker 2: now slowed right down again? And I think that you
22:20
Speaker 2: get a sense that people might be becoming a little
22:23
Speaker 2: frustrated and think, oh, well, there is this thing really
22:25
Speaker 2: going to be as bad as everyone told us.
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Speaker 7: Look indeed, Steve, and firstly you just want to talk
22:32
Speaker 7: to Brisbane as opposed to clearly people on the Gold
22:35
Speaker 7: Coaster seeing the impacts and sadly people in northern New
22:38
Speaker 7: South Wales. And my heart goes out to people of
22:40
Speaker 7: Lismore for what might go down there. But Brisbane today
22:46
Speaker 7: it's been extraordinary. As I was driving to the studio
22:49
Speaker 7: this evening, lovely sunny afternoon win picking up. During the day,
22:54
Speaker 7: we've had misty rain, we've had rain pelting down and
22:58
Speaker 7: then these periods of sunshine and so it's been quite
23:01
Speaker 7: a nice day in a lot of ways in the
23:05
Speaker 7: north of Brisbane. But in terms of the mood on
23:08
Speaker 7: the ground, there was two days ago when we're all
23:11
Speaker 7: running around getting supplies and stocking up for the pantry, etc.
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Speaker 7: There was a powerable feeling of anxiety, almost shall I say, fear,
23:23
Speaker 7: But now as you say, I think it's sort of
23:24
Speaker 7: people going well, can we just get on with it?
23:27
Speaker 7: And that's quite dangerous because in my opinion, there will
23:33
Speaker 7: be obviously impacts from wind when this hits in the
23:35
Speaker 7: next twenty four hours, but I think flooding is the
23:38
Speaker 7: issue now. The BOM are forecasting in the next forty
23:41
Speaker 7: eight hours for Brisbane a minimum of eighty at a
23:45
Speaker 7: maximum three hundred and eighty. Now, if this thing slows
23:47
Speaker 7: down and parks itself, then you will see significant flooding
23:53
Speaker 7: impacts around the suburbs of Brisbane. And I hope we
23:55
Speaker 7: don't have a river flood if it goes further to
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Speaker 7: the northwest.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you may be in a situation where
24:03
Speaker 2: you have you know, I've experienced it in Sydney before,
24:06
Speaker 2: where you have an east coast load that just parks
24:08
Speaker 2: itself off the coast and dumps tremendous amounts of water
24:14
Speaker 2: and rain. And when you talk Brisbane with the river
24:18
Speaker 2: and the amount of water surrounding Brisbane, that that becomes
24:20
Speaker 2: a real danger, doesn't it.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely. Our biggest flood events since White settlement about two
24:27
Speaker 7: hundred years ago have been through cyclonic events nineteen seventy four,
24:33
Speaker 7: cyclone wander in eighteen ninety three, which was the mother
24:38
Speaker 7: of all floods. There were actually three cyclones in around
24:42
Speaker 7: February of that year, and they were quite cataclysmic floods
24:47
Speaker 7: compared to what we've seen in the last fifty or
24:50
Speaker 7: sixty years. So that's the problem with cyclones in southeast
24:55
Speaker 7: queenslande and that's really what they deliver.
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Speaker 2: I want to pick your political brain. You think the
25:02
Speaker 2: Prime Minister is sitting around wherever he is tonight. I
25:06
Speaker 2: don't think he's in queens And anymore. Is back probably
25:08
Speaker 2: in Canberra. Is he sitting there watching you? And I
25:11
Speaker 2: am thinking, well, I was going to call this election off.
25:16
Speaker 2: Maybe now I better go down and see the Governor
25:18
Speaker 2: General on Sunday or Monday and go for April twelve. Gee.
25:24
Speaker 7: I don't think he can do that, Steve, I really
25:26
Speaker 7: don't because it's the lead lag effect. If what I
25:32
Speaker 7: have just said, well what the bow him of predicting
25:35
Speaker 7: goes down, you will see signiviant problems around metropolitan Brisbane
25:40
Speaker 7: and surrounding areas. There will be floods, particularly for Parks itself.
25:46
Speaker 7: But then we just go back to what you were
25:48
Speaker 7: talking to earlier on about what's going on in Lismore
25:51
Speaker 7: with the mayor. I mean, are you going to call
25:53
Speaker 7: an election where Lismore was underwater? Again, I think that's
25:57
Speaker 7: I think that's a terrible bad, terribly bad look. So
26:02
Speaker 7: I think he's just got to buide his time. Now
26:04
Speaker 7: see this, see this whole event.
26:07
Speaker 2: Through, So you don't think you'll go He wouldn't take
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Speaker 2: the risk.
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Speaker 7: Well, I would be really surprised if he does, because
26:18
Speaker 7: it won't go down. It won't go down all very well.
26:22
Speaker 3: You know.
26:22
Speaker 7: For example, if this hits the southern suburbs of Brisbane,
26:26
Speaker 7: there are areas just to the south of Jim Charmers
26:29
Speaker 7: electorate of Rankin that will be hit hard if that's
26:33
Speaker 7: where the rain goes, in the Logan sort of local
26:37
Speaker 7: government area. I bet Jim Chalmers wouldn't thank him if
26:42
Speaker 7: he if the prime minister's calling election while Jim's walking
26:45
Speaker 7: around talking to residents of seeing their their possessions out
26:49
Speaker 7: on the footpath piled up in a big heap for
26:52
Speaker 7: the for the council to take away, I mean cheapness,
26:57
Speaker 7: good Clark.
26:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's the there's the political.
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Speaker 7: I hope that doesn't happen, as I hope that doesn't
27:04
Speaker 7: happen at all. Of course, Steve, I take no pleasure
27:06
Speaker 7: in saying that, but sadly that's what might be about
27:09
Speaker 7: to happen.
27:12
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll watch with interest what happens over the weekend.
27:16
Speaker 2: You stay, say thanks for coming into the studio for us.
27:18
Speaker 2: That's Campbell Newman joined us every Friday night. That's cyclone
27:22
Speaker 2: due to hit Brisbane probably around lunchtime tomorrow. Let's go
27:25
Speaker 2: to the other side of the country now, speaking of elections,
27:27
Speaker 2: newspot over there in Wa shows Labor's on track for
27:31
Speaker 2: a really convincing victory. Tomorrow. There'll be extensive coverage on
27:35
Speaker 2: Sky starting at six o'clock Perth time and nine o'clock
27:39
Speaker 2: Australia an Eastern Standard time. All of the experts will
27:42
Speaker 2: be covering at top and tail. Labour's leading the Liberals
27:46
Speaker 2: fifty seven and a half to forty two and a
27:48
Speaker 2: half two party preferred. But however, according to the West
27:51
Speaker 2: Australian newspaper that's where those polls were published, Labour could
27:55
Speaker 2: actually be facing a thirteen percent swing against it in
27:59
Speaker 2: favor of the lib rules and the lipsicors hold. I
28:02
Speaker 2: think it's two or three seats. Join me now, the
28:04
Speaker 2: WA Liberal Party prisoner and Sky News host Caroline the
28:07
Speaker 2: Russo great to see you again, Caroline are we believing
28:12
Speaker 2: the polls or are we getting set for a big
28:15
Speaker 2: swing against the government.
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Speaker 8: Well, Steve, one thing I've really learned in politics is
28:21
Speaker 8: nothing is ever as good or as bad as it seems.
28:25
Speaker 8: And you know, everyone knows that we did not have
28:28
Speaker 8: a good result in the twenty twenty one state election.
28:31
Speaker 8: It has been an uphill battle, it absolutely has. But
28:34
Speaker 8: we're not quit us here in Wa Steve, and we
28:38
Speaker 8: are out on the ground.
28:40
Speaker 2: We are out everywhere.
28:41
Speaker 8: My candidates, I'm so proud to say, not only have
28:44
Speaker 8: they run great state campaigns or great local campaigns, I
28:48
Speaker 8: should say, but they've been standing on pre poll from
28:51
Speaker 8: eight am till six pm every day making sure they
28:54
Speaker 8: get to speak to as many voters as possible, and
28:57
Speaker 8: they will be there fighting for every vote until six
29:00
Speaker 8: pm tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: So is this about trying to claw back as many
29:05
Speaker 2: seats Caroline as you possibly can, knowing that probably you're
29:09
Speaker 2: not going to get there. I mean, we saw in
29:12
Speaker 2: Werriby and Victoria a sixteen percent swing against the Allen
29:17
Speaker 2: Labor government, which is a much worse government than Roger Cook's,
29:20
Speaker 2: but they still couldn't get the Libs over the line
29:23
Speaker 2: because of the way preferences shattered all over the place.
29:26
Speaker 2: What would you be what would you be happy with?
29:29
Speaker 2: I mean, what would the Liberal Party tomorrow night go, Well,
29:32
Speaker 2: we ran a good campaign, that's probably a fair result.
29:36
Speaker 8: Well, to win the election, we would need a twenty
29:41
Speaker 8: three percent swing. And that's why I said it's an
29:43
Speaker 8: uphill battle. It really is.
29:45
Speaker 2: But look, I think it's.
29:46
Speaker 8: Actually been quite interesting in a way, Steve, and I've
29:49
Speaker 8: got this theory if you don't mind, you know that.
29:51
Speaker 8: I mean, we're already in this unofficial federal campaign, we've
29:55
Speaker 8: got this cyclone. Both these things are sucking so much
29:58
Speaker 8: out of the new cycle that the campaign at a
30:02
Speaker 8: state level I think has probably not been getting the
30:06
Speaker 8: airtime that it has so where you've had those local
30:09
Speaker 8: campaigns that have been running really good campaigns, I think
30:11
Speaker 8: it means all the more in this election perhaps the
30:15
Speaker 8: what it ordinarily would. So while we talk about these
30:18
Speaker 8: things in this sense of a uniform swing, I don't
30:21
Speaker 8: think there's going to be anything that even remotely resembles
30:25
Speaker 8: a uniform swing. I even went back to have a
30:27
Speaker 8: look at the swings from the last election, and there
30:30
Speaker 8: were swings from between six percent and twenty four percent
30:33
Speaker 8: so it's very difficult to know where the baseline is.
30:37
Speaker 8: The one thing that I do know is that the
30:40
Speaker 8: party and something that I'm very grateful for internally is
30:43
Speaker 8: that everyone got on you know, everyone got focused on
30:47
Speaker 8: where they wanted to be. Everyone got focused on making
30:50
Speaker 8: the absolute best and doing their best to win this
30:52
Speaker 8: election campaign. So the work got started a long time ago.
30:56
Speaker 8: The pre selections got done early. We have got a
30:59
Speaker 8: lot of candidates out in the field who have had
31:02
Speaker 8: the benefit of twelve month campaigns.
31:04
Speaker 2: So it will be very very.
31:05
Speaker 8: Interesting to see how that comes through tomorrow evening in
31:10
Speaker 8: the count where we have had in that sense, you know,
31:14
Speaker 8: our local candidates on the ground for some time.
31:19
Speaker 2: One of those candidates is my mate Basil Zemplst. Is
31:21
Speaker 2: he going to get up?
31:24
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I think so, I hope so absolutely. Again,
31:29
Speaker 8: bas got pre selected early in the piece. He has
31:32
Speaker 8: run a great local campaign and really local That direct
31:37
Speaker 8: vote contact is yeah, Okay, he's a personality here haha,
31:42
Speaker 8: so to say, but he has actually really done the
31:45
Speaker 8: work that he needs to do to be able to
31:49
Speaker 8: get to know the people of church Lands. Because the
31:51
Speaker 8: most important thing that he can do and the only
31:53
Speaker 8: thing that he is focused on is winning that seat.
31:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a very talented young men. Are there any
32:01
Speaker 2: are we going to be able to read any federal implications,
32:04
Speaker 2: Caroline into what happens in Perth tomorrow or in Wa
32:07
Speaker 2: in the wider sense.
32:10
Speaker 8: I'm not really sure about that, to be honest. I mean,
32:13
Speaker 8: this WA campaign is a very state based campaign. You know,
32:19
Speaker 8: health is a big issue, crime is a big issue.
32:23
Speaker 8: There may be a little bit of federal overlap, particularly
32:26
Speaker 8: where you're looking at those regional seats, and I think
32:29
Speaker 8: regional w WA will be a good place for people
32:32
Speaker 8: to focus tomorrow night. I mean, people always like to
32:35
Speaker 8: look to the waterfront seats, but I think regional w
32:38
Speaker 8: WA will tell you a story. WA labor has been
32:43
Speaker 8: just ransied as far as regional WA goes, and I
32:46
Speaker 8: think something like the keep the sheep and the banning
32:49
Speaker 8: of the live experts, banning of the forestry industry and
32:52
Speaker 8: those sorts of things, there will be that overlap. But Steve,
32:56
Speaker 8: as you know, we've had a Chinese warship circumnavigated in
33:00
Speaker 8: Western Australia and that hasn't really broken into the way
33:04
Speaker 8: state campaign conversation at all. So I think while we
33:09
Speaker 8: you know, while we're outdoor knocking and people do so.
33:11
Speaker 8: Actually I had someone bail me up in West Perth
33:13
Speaker 8: today and said will you just get rid of Anthony Albanisi?
33:16
Speaker 2: And I said, can I just deal.
33:17
Speaker 8: With this date election first and then we'll work on
33:20
Speaker 8: getting rid of Anthony alban Easy. But I think this
33:23
Speaker 8: campaign is a very state based campaign at the moment,
33:26
Speaker 8: and come Sunday we flip into federal.
33:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, as it always is in Wa. Caroline, thank you,
33:33
Speaker 2: have a good election day and don't forget, folks, skye
33:36
Speaker 2: News tomorrow night rolling courage of the Wa election campaign
33:40
Speaker 2: right across the night, with all of our experts in too,
33:42
Speaker 2: including of course Tom Connell keeping in the eye on
33:45
Speaker 2: the seats. And don't forget to join sky News tomorrow
33:48
Speaker 2: for all of that coverage. It should be sensational. I'll
33:51
Speaker 2: be certainly sitting down and watching after the break. Victorians
33:54
Speaker 2: demand action as we should to address the escalating youth
33:58
Speaker 2: crime crisis, security questions after an alleged gunman attempted and
34:03
Speaker 2: this is extraordinary to board a flight at Avalon Airport,
34:06
Speaker 2: all that to come welcome back Steve Price with you now.
34:12
Speaker 2: I mentioned at the beginning of the program more shocking
34:15
Speaker 2: examples of just how bad Victoria's crime crisis, youth crime
34:19
Speaker 2: crisis has become. I mean, you've got teenagers as young
34:22
Speaker 2: at thirteen fourteen wielding machetes. The picture that was on
34:26
Speaker 2: page one of the Herald Son Court on a security
34:29
Speaker 2: camera inside a house in black Rock that is just
34:33
Speaker 2: absolutely frightening. The cars were stolen from that property and
34:37
Speaker 2: even a child's piggyback. It comes amid reports that the
34:41
Speaker 2: number of violent break ins are more than doubled in
34:44
Speaker 2: the state in just the past decade. We're joined now
34:47
Speaker 2: by the Victorian Shadow Police Minister David Southwick. A story today, David,
34:52
Speaker 2: welcome about a seven year old boy who's been too
34:55
Speaker 2: scared to sleep on his own since his family home
34:59
Speaker 2: was broken into. That's the social impact this is having.
35:03
Speaker 2: It's got to get better. Someone's got to do.
35:05
Speaker 1: Something, David. It's just shocking. I mean to think that
35:07
Speaker 1: people can't feel safe in their own home. The crime
35:13
Speaker 1: capital of the nation and that's what we're seeing each
35:15
Speaker 1: and every day. Last week in Parliament we tried to
35:18
Speaker 1: ban machetes because I mean, why would anybody need to
35:23
Speaker 1: carry a machete and why would anybody be turning up
35:25
Speaker 1: into somebody's home in the middle of the night with one.
35:27
Speaker 2: So what happened when you tried to ban them in.
35:29
Speaker 1: Government wouldn't have a bar of it.
35:30
Speaker 2: I googled today a machete purchase near me and it
35:34
Speaker 2: was a local min of ten.
35:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just crazy stuff.
35:37
Speaker 2: At the very least, they should be locked away.
35:39
Speaker 1: But they've got to be banned. There is no reason
35:42
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five people should be walking the streets
35:45
Speaker 1: with a machete. And when you are standing over somebody's
35:48
Speaker 1: bed in the middle of the night with a big
35:50
Speaker 1: silver weapon in your hand waving that no wonder that
35:53
Speaker 1: young person can't sleep at night. And it's got to
35:56
Speaker 1: be stopped. We've got to get rid of them off
35:58
Speaker 1: the streets, and you've got to have consequences. If you're
36:00
Speaker 1: turning up in someone's home in the middle of the
36:02
Speaker 1: night with a mitchete with a weapon, you don't deserve
36:05
Speaker 1: to be back on the streets. You don't deserve to
36:07
Speaker 1: be in the community, and there has to be consequences,
36:09
Speaker 1: and the government hasn't done it.
36:11
Speaker 2: Biol laws, how do we change that? I mean, seriously,
36:14
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three BAIOL laws were softened. It was enacted
36:17
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. This was largely about the incarceration
36:22
Speaker 2: of women and it went back to one woman who
36:25
Speaker 2: was alcohol affected on a train, went into prison and
36:29
Speaker 2: sadly lost it. It took her own life or lost
36:31
Speaker 2: her own life in jail. Then you had the argument
36:34
Speaker 2: about Indigenous kids getting locked up. But that's not what
36:37
Speaker 2: these it's not what the BIOL laws are for.
36:39
Speaker 1: That's not what this is. And the government's had a
36:41
Speaker 1: couple of attempts and they're now saying they're going to
36:44
Speaker 1: do another review. And every day they delay in this
36:47
Speaker 1: review is another day where Victorians just don't feel safe
36:50
Speaker 1: and they've got to get on with it. Steve, There's
36:53
Speaker 1: got to be consequences. You can't have people carrying weapons,
36:56
Speaker 1: turning into people's homes, carjackings, you can't have these people.
37:00
Speaker 2: You get it that people are frightened.
37:01
Speaker 1: Well, i'd hope it'd be a wake up call to
37:04
Speaker 1: after what we've been seeing in the last few weeks
37:06
Speaker 1: and the last people is well the last few ye
37:09
Speaker 1: but well it's post COVID absolutely, and you have a
37:11
Speaker 1: look at our prison numbers. They are half since COVID
37:15
Speaker 1: so serious effect. It's gone backwards backwards. We've got more
37:19
Speaker 1: people in Victoria, we've got more young people coming through
37:22
Speaker 1: and half the numbers in our prison system, and that
37:25
Speaker 1: just says that people are being bailed out to do
37:28
Speaker 1: what they're doing. We've had young offenders been bailed fifty times,
37:32
Speaker 1: fifty times back on the streets committing these violent offenses.
37:36
Speaker 1: And you know what, You've got to say, enough is
37:38
Speaker 1: enough for all four rehabilitating young people that steal a
37:42
Speaker 1: pack of chewing gum when they're turning up with a weapon.
37:45
Speaker 1: They can't be bailed.
37:46
Speaker 2: Didn't the Victorian taxpos and the federal Australian taxpos pay
37:49
Speaker 2: to build a facility in Melbourne that was going to
37:52
Speaker 2: be used as a quarantine cent Yeah?
37:54
Speaker 1: What's in there that's still sitting there? Yeah, and we've
37:57
Speaker 1: got why.
37:58
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you put not youth offenders in there?
38:00
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a whole lot of things. We've
38:01
Speaker 1: got an education precinct that's not being used. Instead we
38:06
Speaker 1: want to or the government wants to have people wearing
38:09
Speaker 1: ankle bracelets going into the education system, sitting alongside other kids.
38:13
Speaker 1: This government doesn't get it. You've got to have consequences
38:17
Speaker 1: for young offenders. Educate them as much as you can,
38:20
Speaker 1: give them every opportunity you possibly can. But when they've
38:23
Speaker 1: run out of excuses, then unfortunately the only way for
38:26
Speaker 1: them is have them locked up and fooling the full
38:31
Speaker 1: force of the law. And young kids see what's happening.
38:34
Speaker 1: They hear about it on Facebook and say, you know what,
38:37
Speaker 1: this person's out, Why can't I just do that?
38:41
Speaker 2: Supreme you're going to say when someone dies.
38:43
Speaker 1: Only amount of time? Steve it? Really it really is.
38:46
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think if you've got somebody in
38:49
Speaker 1: your home with your family, turning up with a machete,
38:52
Speaker 1: of course you're going to defend yourself. And it really
38:54
Speaker 1: scares me.
38:56
Speaker 2: People baseball bets and the golf clubs and they say,
39:00
Speaker 2: if someone comes into this house, I'll attack them.
39:02
Speaker 1: Of course.
39:02
Speaker 2: So what happens if you then accidentally killed someone.
39:05
Speaker 1: Well, you're responsible if you take the weapon off somebody
39:08
Speaker 1: else and then you use that weapon. Unfortunately, you're the
39:11
Speaker 1: one that ends up in jail. And that it's beyond belief.
39:15
Speaker 1: If somebody climbs onto your roof trying to break into
39:19
Speaker 1: your home and they fall and break their ankle. You're
39:23
Speaker 1: up for the insurance claim. I mean the whole lot
39:26
Speaker 1: has to be changed. At the end of the day,
39:28
Speaker 1: Victoria is in a crime crisis and this government, to
39:31
Speaker 1: Cindre Ellen, has a head in the sand.
39:33
Speaker 2: David Groat, to see you as you great to thank
39:35
Speaker 2: you very much. Coming up after the break, shocking revelations
39:38
Speaker 2: about the number of New South Wales public serpents living
39:41
Speaker 2: outside the state. They don't actually live in the state
39:44
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to be working in. Fust a proposal
39:46
Speaker 2: for trials without juries. Is that a good idea? The
39:50
Speaker 2: panel is up next, Welcome back the word according to
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Speaker 2: Rowan Deane. Coming up, let's bring in our Friday night panel,
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Speaker 2: our favorite time of the week. Small business Woman Australia
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Speaker 2: CEO Amanda Rose, can you shorten that title for me
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Speaker 2: at some point? And Sky News contributor Joe hild around
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Speaker 2: great see you both go yeah, Boss lady, that's it,
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Speaker 2: Boss lady is perfect. I know. That's why you're employed
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Speaker 2: as a journalist.
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Speaker 1: Joe.
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Speaker 2: Look to both of you. The good news story of
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Speaker 2: the day. Let's start with some good positive news. Barry Clark,
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Speaker 2: he's the this is the most Australian story you could
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Speaker 2: ever imagine. He's the hero Shearer from that frightening invasion
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Speaker 2: of a jet Star flight at Avalon. He grabbed the
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Speaker 2: alleged government by the throat. Luckily he was sitting in
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Speaker 2: a row one. He's a Jetstar CEO. She today announced
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Speaker 2: that Barry, who's a mad Sydney Swan's fan, that I
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Speaker 2: guess there's some things he's not good at. He's going
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Speaker 2: to be flown free of charge by Jetstar to any
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Speaker 2: Swans game anywhere in the country for the entire footy season. Amanda.
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Speaker 2: That's my definition of good marketing absolutely.
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Speaker 9: I mean, could you get any more Australian than a
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Speaker 9: buzzer saving the day? And I think this is fantastic
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Speaker 9: and you know, hopefully people can actually be encouraged that
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Speaker 9: we have men out there that will do things like this.
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Speaker 9: They'll spot something and say I need to go and
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Speaker 9: fix this, and fix it.
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Speaker 2: Joe. It's just such a great yarn, isn't it. I
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Speaker 2: mean you could not write that script better if you tried. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it is absolutely incredible.
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Speaker 10: I mean the idea that you've got, you know, a Sharer,
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Speaker 10: you know, the greatest Australian icon of sharers who started
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Speaker 10: the Australians workers you knew in Australian labor, Placer quint
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Speaker 10: essentially quit essentially, Assie blake Quet and Bazza. Amazing that
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Speaker 10: he stood up and restored a bit of faith in humanity.
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Speaker 10: I have to say, though, to be perfectly honest, I'm
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Speaker 10: not sure if it's fair that after doing this he
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Speaker 10: then gets basically a lifetime of Jet staff flights. I mean,
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Speaker 10: for the love of God, i'd haven't the poor bloke
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Speaker 10: sacrificed enough.
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Speaker 2: That's very unkind to Jet Star Joe. But we'll need
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Speaker 2: to get away with it a man. Let's talk about
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Speaker 2: the practice of working from home now, before someone jumps
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Speaker 2: online and says, oh, well, Price, that's okay you work
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Speaker 2: from home, which I do because I'm my own boss
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Speaker 2: and I can do what I want. But surely these
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Speaker 2: public servants we heard stories during the week. I think
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Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph revealed over seven thousand, four hundred public
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Speaker 2: servants still living inter state or overseas. There was one
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Speaker 2: story during the work during the week that one of
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Speaker 2: these public servants was actually traveling around Australia on a
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Speaker 2: holiday and simply dialing into work from a caravan park somewhere.
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Speaker 9: Yes, so working from home is different to remote working.
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Speaker 9: And then as part of your contract being paid to
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Speaker 9: come into the office for meetings. People are really you know,
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Speaker 9: taking in the pe here because you know, working from
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Speaker 9: home is supposed to help with your flexibility. You know,
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Speaker 9: you can drop your kids off at school, not Hey,
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Speaker 9: I'm going to work from home, then move state and
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Speaker 9: then if I need to come in from a meeting,
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Speaker 9: then the company or the government has to pay for
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Speaker 9: me to come in. That's going too far. I think
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Speaker 9: we've gone too far to the extreme and unfortunately what
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Speaker 9: people are doing or government's doing, is going too far
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Speaker 9: the other extreme by saying everyone has to come in
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Speaker 9: five days. And the reality is with the new South
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Speaker 9: Iales government, even the federal government, they knew people were
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Speaker 9: doing this, They knew that people were taking advantage of it.
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Speaker 9: But I don't think those who are working from home
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Speaker 9: in a hybrid environment should be punished that whether they're
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Speaker 9: doing the right thing and they're very productive, because those
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Speaker 9: who are taking advantage of it aren't.
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Speaker 2: Joles turned to your Anthony Albanezi, the Prime Minister. He's
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Speaker 2: surely not going to call an election for April twelve,
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Speaker 2: by going to the Governor General's House tomorrow or Monday
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Speaker 2: in the middle of a natural disaster unfolding in Queensland.
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Speaker 2: I mean, none of us know exactly what tropical cyclone
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Speaker 2: Alfred is going to do. It could be not as
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Speaker 2: bad as everyone's thought. Let's hope that's the case, or
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Speaker 2: it could be just as bad. I was doking to
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Speaker 2: Campbell Newman, before you know, Brisbane's still threatening to get
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Speaker 2: dumped on with rain. Do you think he'll sit it out?
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Speaker 10: I think he has to. I just don't understand. I
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Speaker 10: can't picture in my mind a scenario in which him
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Speaker 10: driving to yar Alumla in the middle of a natural disaster,
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Speaker 10: even one that is receding or not as bad as feared,
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Speaker 10: could be anything other than just a terrible look and
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Speaker 10: the sense again everyone I speak to no longer it
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Speaker 10: was all on to be called on Sunday. No one
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Speaker 10: I've spoken to still thinks that that is going to happen.
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Speaker 2: I think that.
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Speaker 10: I mean, just as an example, even if Alfred is
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Speaker 10: a complete fizzer, there are still something like eighty thousand
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Speaker 10: home and businesses last I checked that were without power
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Speaker 10: and with the energy company saying, look, we just can't
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Speaker 10: send anyone out there for days to be able to
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Speaker 10: restore it because it's just not safe. Now, just imagine
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Speaker 10: if you are sitting at home in your cold, wet,
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Speaker 10: dark house with no electricity, and the one bit of
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Speaker 10: news that filters through to you is that the.
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Speaker 2: Prime minister has called an election.
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Speaker 10: Now that's I don't think that's going to do wonders
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Speaker 10: for any incumbent government's re election prospects. And Albo is
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Speaker 10: no fool, and I think he's a decent bloke as well.
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Speaker 10: I think he knows it just wouldn't be the right
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Speaker 10: thing to do, so I think we're probably.
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Speaker 2: Let's be clear here, he's talking sense ow Joe.
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Speaker 9: I think, well, he's talking because Joe's a nice person
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Speaker 9: and he wouldn't do something like that. But sometimes he
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Speaker 9: forgets that when it comes to politics, they will do
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Speaker 9: spin and lie and do whatever they need to do
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Speaker 9: to make sure they're in a position to win something.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we wait, it means Joe a budget though,
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Speaker 2: I mean, if he doesn't go Monday and go for
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Speaker 2: an April election, he's going to have to hand down
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Speaker 2: a budget. That's the last thing he wants to do,
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Speaker 2: isn't it? Yeah, I think it is.
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Speaker 10: I mean, there is one other option, which is that
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Speaker 10: he goes to yar Alumla early and calls for a
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Speaker 10: and then launches a six week campaign. The minimum, the
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Speaker 10: thirty three days only has to be the minimum. You
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Speaker 10: can go for longer than that. That's usually fraught with danger.
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Speaker 10: Bob Hawk famously did it in ninet eighty four and.
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Speaker 2: It was it was a pall.
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Speaker 10: Like everyone, even the greatest campaigner and Australian Labor Party history,
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Speaker 10: got undone by a long campaign. The public generally doesn't
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Speaker 10: like it. But if he really did want to avoid
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Speaker 10: that budget, he could call a six week campaign, so
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Speaker 10: go early and have Parliament pro rogued and the caretaking
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Speaker 10: government in place by then. But you know, I'm not
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Speaker 10: sure that. I mean, just handing down a budget deficit
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Speaker 10: really make a huge amount of difference to the average place.
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Speaker 10: I think, well, I think most of the people who
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Speaker 10: care about budget surfaces are probably not voting for the
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Speaker 10: Labor Party in the first place, and everyone else just
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Speaker 10: wants to see what good is there are in it
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Speaker 10: for them.
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Speaker 2: So but I mean, if.
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Speaker 10: He could avoid it easily, he would have and that's
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Speaker 10: why it was going to be April twelve. And why Frankly,
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Speaker 10: I mean I was told that it was going to
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Speaker 10: be April five, and if he had a called it
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Speaker 10: last week, we would have not been having any of
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Speaker 10: these problems at all.
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Speaker 2: So just listen to me next time. Yeah, Look, he's
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Speaker 2: stuck between a rock and a hard place. I want
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Speaker 2: to look at this, and as we know, hundreds of
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Speaker 2: Brisbane public they're under a thread of a cyclone. But
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Speaker 2: what about this. This is the public e scooters that
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Speaker 2: have been collected in a safe location ahead of the cyclone.
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Speaker 2: But this has caused some difficulties for one joker who
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Speaker 2: needed to move his car. Now, the image of this
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Speaker 2: is just extraord Now this guy's got to try and
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Speaker 2: get that orange sedan out of there. I would just
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Speaker 2: put it in reverse and just back over the whole
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Speaker 2: lot of those things to get out. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be worrying about shifting them all, Amanda. This man
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Speaker 2: has great patience. He does.
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Speaker 9: Actually, I probably would have just driven completely over them myself.
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Speaker 9: But then I probably would have had a Volvo or
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Speaker 9: a four ward drive that could handle that. But why, Like,
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Speaker 9: who made the decision to put all those bikes there,
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Speaker 9: knowing there was a car, we would have it told.
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Speaker 2: Why would you think anyone who's in charge, Why would
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Speaker 2: you think anyone who's in charge of electric scooters would
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Speaker 2: have any common sense? Joe and Amanda thank you very
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Speaker 2: much for joining us. We'll see you next Friday. A reminder,
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Speaker 2: of course, the WA election is on tomorrow. Full coverage
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