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MLB Playoffs begin, Mike Palm on the NEW Circa Sports Iowa app, Vinnie Iyer talks NFL · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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Tuesday. It's Des Moines sports station
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one O 6.3 KXNO broadcasting on the Iowa Sports Radio Network
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for the next two hours. Trent Condon, myself, Ken
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Miller, talking sports with you. Thanks for starting your
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afternoon with us. Coming up at 2O clock off the
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bench. Lucas and Sean will be here.
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But in the meantime, we've got a lot to get to, including in 15
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minutes. Mike Palm is going to join us.
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Circus Sports had hoped to be able to unveil their new app in
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the state of Iowa today. They want to make sure it's
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ready to go and there'll be no hiccups along the way.
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So they're going to postpone it by a few days.
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But we'll get the latest from Mike Palm on that.
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And while we've got him, there's nothing, no reason why we
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couldn't pick his brain on what happened this past weekend.
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And maybe a little bit of MLB playoffs.
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And then Vinnie Iyer at the bottom of the hour, he covers
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the NFL for the Sporting News, sportingnews.com.
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He also hosts Locked On fantasy football podcasts on the Locked
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On Network. So Vinny will be here at 12:30.
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Matt Snyder covers baseball for CBSSports.com.
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He kicks off our number 2. We'll do our weekly segment, MLB
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segment with Matt Snyder. And then at 1:30, well, more
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Sporting News personnel the in the Bill Bender will join us
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from Sporting News covers college football and then
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Trent's plays of the day circus sports sponsor those.
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So Week 4 is come and gone. Curtain fell on the on Monday
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Night Football last night. 2 brutal games, quite honestly.
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I mean, they really were. They're just just terrible
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games. But football is football after
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all, and you can clean something of it.
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I love to watch Bo Nicks throw the football.
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I love to watch Justin Fields run the football as that
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touchdown was a thing of beauty. But there's not much going on
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with that Jets team. The Dolphins are.
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They're terrible and they found a way to get by them.
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So off the baseball we go. Boy, baseball got some huge news
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yesterday with the the 2025 numbers.
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I'm not sure. Did you see the viewership and
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attendance numbers? I saw that they were up.
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Oh, up. I mean way up.
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Fox was up 9%, FS 110%, ESPN 21%, TBS 29%, MLB Network 13% up
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NHK what is that NHK whatever it is, it was up 20% and MLBTV was
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up 34%. Attendance for the third
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straight year continued to grow. 71.4 million fans bellied their
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way through the turnstiles into Major League ballparks this
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year. So for the tough day yesterday,
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for the game is dying crowd, the game seemingly is alive and
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well. They could figure out the TV's
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and the blackout restrictions. Who knows where this rocket ship
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would take off to. But a good day for baseball.
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And boy, we've got a good day for baseball coming up here
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today. Yeah, it's a series that are all
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intriguing in their own way, of course.
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The red story, getting in the back door even with the loss and
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what the Marlins did to the Mets over the weekend.
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Do you? Give the Reds any chance.
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Yeah, I mean to. Win a game, can they?
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They can't win the series, can they?
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It's only a three. Game series.
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Why can't they? It's baseball.
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Yeah, but it's the Dodgers in the other dugout.
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Sure. And I like hunter green a lot.
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I mean, Hunter green is unbelievable, but it's the
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Dodgers in the dugout. But no shot.
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I mean, it's baseball. You can't say no shot.
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It would be an it would be a huge surprise if Cincinnati gets
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through this series. Yeah, I I'd like.
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No, I wouldn't. I mean, OK, this is what taints.
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I don't like this about me. You know I want the Dodgers to
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win because of my Betty app, right?
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I would like to see Cincinnati pull off this story, but I don't
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think they will. I don't think so either, but the
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price says that they're -200 the Dodgers to win the series.
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But three-game series, anything can happen.
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You know the interesting thing, we've had twelve of these NOW
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series as they've manufactured it, and yesterday we could have
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had an epic Game one. 16 I know. Can we bring this back?
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No, sadly, we can. Why?
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I don't know. I'm not.
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I'm with. You are are planes.
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Do they shut down? If you put it no, you can still
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get there these. These cities that have Major
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League franchises, their airports open, then it's not
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like it closes up, right? Right.
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They can land the plane at 2:00 in the morning and ask the
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personnel there to get everybody off the plane.
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I mean to think if we would have got Mets Reds game 163 winner
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out. Yeah, no, sign me up.
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We had the Blue Jay-Z. To to play for what they were
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playing. Don't go too far there.
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Well, why not? Well, you play as a head.
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Fan so I don't. Want that?
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You played head for, head for. Years.
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If it would have been the Yankees who would have got the
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one seed, then I agree with. You absolutely take your fandom
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away though. We did this for years and years
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and years. And to think that then The Game
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163, the importance of that with a bi attached to it, what that
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that would have been incredible as baseball fans were robbed of
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it. We'll just go to the the season
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series. Do you remember one pitch of
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Reds Mets this year? Because I sure don't.
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No, exactly I don't. Yet that's what determines who
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gets in the playoffs and who's sitting.
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Bring it back. Bring back Game 160.
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Three. Yeah, not good.
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Probably not going to happen. Getting back to my original
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point as these three-game series only two times in 12 of these
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series. Has it gone 3?
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Have we seen the three games? Isn't that wild?
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I was. I'm glad you found that number
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because I was thinking that, boy, we don't see this a lot.
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Here's the Reds, a first time in Major League history to have a
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team that no qualifying batter hit above 270, no qualified
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batter hit 25 home runs, no pitcher 115 games.
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No pitcher was able to strike out more than 200 batters.
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And here the Reds are getting their way into the playoffs and
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we'll see where it goes. You know, Speaking of baseball,
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I'm, I'm not sure I want to bring this up with Matt Snyder.
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Maybe I do. And I know you probably didn't
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see this. You'll probably be aware of it.
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And I wasn't aware of it until I went back and watched because
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Saturday we were watching college football.
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Did you see what the Cardinals did to Michael Bush on Saturday?
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Threw at him? No.
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No, actually walked him. OK, so he had a home run, a
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double and a triple. He was a single away, single
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away from the cycle. And they walked them on purpose.
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If I was a Cardinal fan, I would love it if I'm a fan of baseball
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or a fan of any other team. And certainly a Cubs fan.
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I mean, I'd say it was the Padres and the Brewers.
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I just think that's, I don't know, Again, if I was a Cardinal
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fan, I think I'd probably love it.
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Right? Yeah, you get that part of it.
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But I thought that was a little bushly.
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I'm with you. Right.
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Didn't love it. Didn't love it.
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No, not at all. I mean, it's it's it's a cycle
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and hopefully we'll get another chance to do it.
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But, and there's no guarantee, obviously he's going to get a
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single right, but I never had that opportunity to do so.
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So I have the records here for the playoff teams against other
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playoff teams, along with the run differential.
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And this has been a pretty good determining factor if you're
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trying to figure out who's real, who can actually make a run year
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after year after year. At the top of the list is the
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Phillies. They're 31 and 20 against
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playoff teams, plus 32 run differential.
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Up next, the Brewers, 36 and 26. The Blue Jays top the American
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League list 38 and 28 + 31. The Dodgers are 32 and 24, but
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they have the largest run differential plus 45 for them.
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And then after that, though the Reds do have a winning record,
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33 and 32, they're -16 normally not good.
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The Cubs are +2, but do have a losing record, 31 and 32, just
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under 500. But the one that I thought maybe
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would, well, two of them that bear mentioning and certainly
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bear mentioning for you, because the Padres are always a team
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that we seem to talk about one way or the other before the
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season, middle season and the season playoff.
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Can they make a run? 24 and 3410 games under 500
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against playoff teams, but more importantly, they have the worst
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run differential in National League teams -47 that's
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substantial. Who do you like in that series?
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The Cubs. You do.
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I do, yeah. I think you're too close to it.
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No, I think Matthew Boyd has not been great down the stretch and
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that and that's worrisome. Pavetta has not been good in
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Wrigley Field in his career. He has struggled in this
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environment. The record has been poor.
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That is 1 aspect that I look at. Padres lineup is good, no doubt
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about it. They also had some banked up
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pieces that bullpen. I think that is concerning for
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them. I like the Cubs bullpen more in
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the current iteration that I do the Padres and and it's just a
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staff for the Padres. Pavetta.
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King, cease. Cease.
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That's of. Course, that's a whole lot of
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yuck, No, Certainly the guys that we've seen this year.
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Well, look, it would it would be fine if the Cubs advance.
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It'd be great for business. The longer this team goes, the
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better it gets. But we'll see.
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I mean, and they would get the Brewers, the Brewers, the
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Phillies won the National League.
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No, this is the 450. The Three Six would play the. 2
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Which is the Phillies? Yep.
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OK. So the Brewers are awaiting the
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winner of this. Here's another aspect of the
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playoff set. I don't know if I have it right.
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I don't know why. It does bother me a little bit
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that we do have a true bracket that we don't have.
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The top seed gets the lowest remaining seed in the next
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round. I don't know the reasoning
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behind it or the justification of why.
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Probably the same reason they don't play 163 games.
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That's what they agreed to. I I don't know.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. I get your point.
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But that's what the NFL does. Obviously.
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Lowest top seed gets the lowest remaining seed.
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And in baseball, you don't have to have a bracket.
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There's nothing that says, oh, yeah, this makes this isn't the
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NCAA tournament, right? Where obviously that makes a
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whole lot more sense. The College Football Playoff.
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Yeah, you want a bracket there for baseball in this shortened
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kind of environment that we're in.
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I personally think it would make more sense if anybody has a
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reason, because I don't see it. We play 162.
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We talked about 162. Well, shouldn't you be rewarded
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then with the lowest team that makes it on into the next round?
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I want to talk before we get to Mike Palm.
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Rocco Bodelli, your manager will let get the line up these phone
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calls and we'll talk to them if they want to come on.
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But Rocco Bell Deli, I think the twins did him a favor that
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yesterday. Bochy, he was I I guess it was a
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mutual decision for him and the Rangers to part ways.
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It sure seems likely that if indeed he wants to manage again,
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that he'd be given the opportunity to go back to San
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Francisco. I mean, Buster Posey's a general
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manager there. But if you're Bochy, do you want
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to do that? I mean, you've got you've got
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your legacy is intact in San Francisco.
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If he goes back and it doesn't doesn't go well, if there's not
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a playoff appearance, if they're, you know, a nice team.
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Like they have been 80. Two.
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Yeah, 82 and 8083 and 79. You, you won all those World
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Championships in San Francisco. Do you want to do that at his
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age? I hope he doesn't.
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I hope. He does if he wants to.
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You always say you hope that they don't.
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You don't like to see these reincarnations because of.
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Because of what they've. Built.
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I'm not going to forget Bruce Bocci in the World Series if he
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goes back, but when I talk about Michael Jordan, I don't talk
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about the Bullets or the Wizards.
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And a lot of people do, though why I don't know, but a lot of
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people do. It did absolutely nothing.
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He is still the best basketball player I've ever seen.
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Me too. He drugged that crap
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organization on the brink of a playoff and.
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He told him from day one he was going to, and actually he did.
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What were they, 40 and 42 after winning like 20 games the year
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before? That's what Michael Jordan and
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maybe it grew his legacy. 4 of me.
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I think it's too easy just to look at the baseball reference.
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Oh yeah, at the end, it didn't go very well.
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I remember the high moments, I remember those big moments and
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for me the legacy very rarely is tarnished.
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And I heard all the time growing up Willie Mays and the Mets,
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Willie Mays and the Mets, well, I don't see any highlights of
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that. What I see as I look at the
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baseball reference, I see the highlights and I think of him at
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his apex of when he was he was the best player and maybe still
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consider the best all around baseball player might be of all
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time. A lot of people would say that,
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and not because of the. Mets.
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There's not as many of them left right anymore.
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Yeah. Fairpoint.
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All right, let's get Thunder Joe then.
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Mike Palm is coming up. He we're going to get the latest
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from Mike Palm on Circa. Hello, Joe, How are you?
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Well, I'm OK, Ken, you know I respect you, but I got to put
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back on in Bush league. OK, pardon.
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Cardinals still had a chance to send Chicago out to San Diego,
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and Mike Michael Bush was already a four for four with a
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AA triple and two home run. So the walk there, yeah, it's.
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Game. What was the score in the game?
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I don't know the answer to that. What was the score at that
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point? It was like 5 five to two or six
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to two at that point. You still got to play it though.
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And I think the two home runs are like, OK now.
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I had even like 2 double S. He might, he might, he might
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have pitched to him, but the two home runs were overlooked.
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Yeah, no, that's, that's fair. I mean, I I didn't realize he'd
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had two. Obviously he was seeing the ball
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very well that day. It's just the fact that it was
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Cubs Cards. I think as much as anything, if
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it would have been, you know, fill in the blank picture net,
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well, it doesn't need to be a National League teammates
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because they play everybody. Now.
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If it would have been anybody else, then maybe it would have
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been a little bit more palatable.
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But because it's that, you know, that rivalry, I guess it kind of
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rankled some people. Well, and I'm not, I'm not the
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biggest marble fan out there. I was actually hoping.
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I'm surprised he's. Yeah, right.
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I. Thought I thought he'd get
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candidate Yadi Yadi Yadi has actually been guest guest
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coaching a few times this year. I think they're grooming in.
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So I think this is probably Marmos last year, but we'll see.
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Thank you, Joe. Appreciate the call as always.
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Yep, good to hear from you. All right, let's head out to Las
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Vegas. Mike Palm, VP of Operations at
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Circus Sports. Hi, Mike.
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Trenton, Ken, how are you? Good.
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Morning fellas, How are you doing?
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Well, so it's September the 30th wanted to have you on get the
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latest on where the Circa app is.
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All of us Circa customers were given were sent an e-mail this
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pastel Friday, I think it was giving us an update as to, you
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know, what's coming and why the why September 30th is not going
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to be met. And I think you're doing the
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right thing. I mean you the phrase is you
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only get one chance to make a first impression.
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But it's a new app and a lot of people have been waiting for
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this and for it to not be ready and not to have all the bells
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and whistles. You don't want to do that.
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So I think it's prudent that you guys are, you know, delaying
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this, delaying the launch by a few days or whatever it turns
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out to be. Yeah, we haven't set a date.
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Certain probably the goal is in the next week to launch, so stay
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tuned for further details when it's ready.
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The big thing was all the payment options, Kenny.
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It's not necessarily the dust and bolts of the app and what
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new features there are, but we didn't want to launch this and
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have fewer payment options that we actually have yesterday,
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which would have been the case if we launched today, because
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we're still integrating. You have to integrate all the
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different payment options, whether it's your debit card or
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whether it's a PayPal or whatever.
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You still have to integrate it to the new gateways, right, to
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the new software that you have. So that's really what the delay
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is, is integrating the payment methods, payment as well as, you
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know, some deposits as well as withdrawal.
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So we didn't want to go in with a substandard product as far as
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that was concerned. We do.
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We have an exciting promotion coming up probably about a week
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after we launched. So we're kind of keeping those
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dates flexible, but it'll be great and it won't be just for
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new customers and it'll be for existing customers as well.
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Good. Stay tuned for that.
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That gets me excited, gets kind of excited as well.
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Let's jump. Because I just trained my
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account on World Series. Exactly.
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Yes, no surprise on that front. Mike.
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You talked about kind of some of the bells and whistles.
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You mentioned that to us in the past in a rating, some more of
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the things that are becoming in vogue, certainly in the gambling
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space, the same game, parlays, things like that.
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Can you tell us a little bit more about some more of the
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features that we'll see with the new Circus Sports Iowa App?
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Yeah, but the goal is to to be able to offer same game parlays.
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The goal is to have continuous live betting available, right.
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Not the not the book it at the half any book it at the
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commercial breaks, right. So that's, and then the cash
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out, which I think is a huge, which is a huge thing.
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Well, so I mean that's, that's ultimately the things that we
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are are hoping to add to make our, our app, our tech more
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competitive because we think that the, the product that the,
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the limits, the pricing is best in class.
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Now we have to get our menu deeper and we have to get more
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vetting options available for our customers.
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I know that you like to personally like to play in game
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and play. Are you surprised it's gotten as
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big as it seemingly has gotten? Because, you know, listen to
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guys on and Visa, talk to my friends.
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Everybody likes to bet in game. I don't like the number.
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I'm going to wait till the start of the game.
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People are really taking advantage of that now, Mike.
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Yeah, I mean, I always have since the dawn of it.
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I just felt you can handicap the game all you want pre flop
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before the game kicks off or the first pitch is thrown and you'll
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get larger limits and slightly better pricing for that.
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But until you actually see, you know, do you actually see can
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the Iowa defensive line hold up against Indiana?
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Can you know? You have to, you see the game
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and you see a few series in football.
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You see a pitcher come out. You know, there's certain
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pitchers like Yamamoto for the Dodgers.
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You will know him in the first inning for the game because if
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his sliders not working, he's going to get roughed up.
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And if it is, he's almost unpittable.
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I think there are advantages that overcome the five cents
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more in Jews to pay for the end game betting.
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And so it's a growing market. I said five years ago would be
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the most rapid, probably growing market.
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You know, props are probably right there with it.
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Percentage of percentage of volume in the prop market as
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opposed to betting on sides and totals is probably growing just
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as fast. As we get ready for the series
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here with Major League Baseball, in fact underway with the Tigers
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and Guardians early pitch out there in Vegas for that one, I'm
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sure Derek and company and all the Michiganders are in.
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Detroit, by the way. As they jump on early, what have
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you seen with these series, these wild card rounds series,
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anything that has jumped out in terms of the betting market here
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with the four series that we get?
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Well, I think, I don't know this is a surprise, but you know that
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the public will bet the Dodgers at any price.
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That's they just will. Whatever price you put up there,
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the public's going to bet the Dodgers.
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So they'll be every series the Dodgers in.
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It's going to be the most bet upon series.
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I was surprised Syllable was a dog today.
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I bet them I got plus 1/18 on the Tigers today.
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And I also played -102 first five with school.
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So I mean, he has been the best pitcher all year in the American
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League. I know they've struggled down
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the stretch, and I know they blew up in that sixth inning
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where everything went wrong in Cleveland, what, 5 days ago.
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But I mean, he was also ahead to nothing in that game going to
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the bottom 6. So he's come out, he's already
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hitting 100 on the gun in the first inning here.
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So we'll see if they can scratch out a few runs against Gavin
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Williams. Obviously this is the biggest
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start of his life. Yeah, no doubt one of the most
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improbable innings, that last out against Cleveland, that 6th
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inning. Crazy.
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Are your thoughts on San Diego and Chicago?
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I might got to ask you about the Cubs.
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I thought it should be a pickup series and it looks like it
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really is. I mean, the Cubs are very slight
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favorite in game one. You can argue that the Padres
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will have the better starting pitching.
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I think home field means a lot. I think if the series was in San
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Diego, the Padres would probably be $1.35 or $1.40 favorite at
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the hope for kind of cooler weather in Chicago.
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But I think of all the series that that that's the biggest
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toss up of them all. And the Cubs got themselves to
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the spot, you know, and Matt Boyce been terrific.
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I remember sitting at Sloane Park spring training, watching
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him throw 82 and 83 miles an hour.
20:00
I could have never imagined he'd be starting game one of the Wild
20:02
Card Series. But you've got him, you've got
20:04
Horton, you've got, you know, Imanaga.
20:07
So I think it'll be a great series.
20:09
And let's hope the Cubs can advance.
20:11
And the Cubs, Brewers would be a heck of a lot of fun.
20:14
Definitely would sign up for that.
20:15
Major League Baseball, very excited they get Yankees, Red
20:17
Sox here in the opening round. First time in a long time we've
20:20
seen this series happen in the playoffs.
20:23
Betting wise, anything that you've got seen there?
20:26
Kind of hard to swallow. One thing that I looked at, you
20:28
guys have right now, Red Sox in three games.
20:30
If you're looking for a price that's plus 360, but I'm going
20:33
to guess a lot of Yankees money coming in.
20:36
Been a yellow Yankees money and deservedly so.
20:38
They've played great the last six weeks of the year.
20:41
You thought the Yankees were, you know, everybody was betting
20:44
the Yankees no playoffs. I mean, and they had tied
20:47
Toronto. They did everything they could.
20:48
They win every game at home the last week of the year.
20:50
I mean, they're playing really well.
20:52
They've got the starting pitching.
20:53
Can the bullpen hold off? Remember the bullpen right after
20:56
the All Star break was a disaster, so should be a great
20:58
series. I mean the Red Sox were a
21:00
darling pick for a while too because they were outside.
21:02
So people have the Red Sox at good prices to win the American
21:06
League in the World Series. I do have a ticket and the Red
21:09
Sox at 35 to one, a small ticket, but it's nice to be
21:13
alive to some of these, right? The big thing for me is the
21:15
Brewers at 30 to 1 to win the National.
21:17
League. Nice.
21:17
Speaking of being alive, I'm alive into October with our
21:20
survivor for the first time ever, I made October Mike ball.
21:23
I thought I had two going into the weekend.
21:25
I had the Packers, unfortunately that went by the wayside, but I
21:28
had the Broncos last night and I see October for the first time,
21:31
so I can do it. Good to see.
21:34
Hey Mike. Well, we'll wait for more on on
21:37
what day that will be. We'll look for the promotion the
21:39
week following. We will talk to you on Friday.
21:42
Perhaps by then you'll have more information.
21:44
Know you're busy. Thanks for giving us a few
21:46
minutes and it'll be worth the wait once it does come to life
21:49
in the state of Iowa. You have a great day, Mike.
21:52
Enjoy Super Tuesday guys. Absolutely it is.
21:55
We will. Good stuff.
21:56
See MM Palm, vice president of operations at Circa Sports.
22:00
I like that Super Tuesday. It is a super.
22:02
Boy, hell yeah. I love these days.
22:04
We'll take a time out. We'll come back Vinnie Ayer.
22:06
We'll talk NFL with Vinnie. We have a couple of minutes.
22:10
Well, we'll do it after Vinny. Well, Miller and Condon talking
22:13
sports with you. Glad you're with us on Des
22:14
Moines sports station 106.3 KXNO and the Iowa Sports Radio
22:18
Network. Hi, 1230, welcome back Miller in
22:23
Condon, Iowa sports radio network.
22:26
He keeping you up to date on the Detroit Cleveland series.
22:30
Midway through two in Cleveland Tigers 1 zip over the guardians.
22:34
Let's talk some NFL, shall we? Vinny Iyer writes about it for
22:38
the Sporting News sportingnews.com.
22:40
He also hosts locked on fantasy football part of the locked on
22:43
network and Vinny joins us. Vinny Trenton, Ken, as always,
22:47
thank you for finding some time for us.
22:49
Vinny, I got to start with the Baltimore Ravens.
22:52
I know that you have slid them down significantly in your power
22:55
rankings all the way out of the top 10.
22:57
Not saying that's unfair. They do not look like what some
23:00
people, myself included, thought might be the best team in the
23:02
NFL early in the season or prior to the season with all those
23:06
mounting injuries. Vinny, particularly on defense
23:09
and now Lamar Jackson is is banged up.
23:13
I can't write them off yet, but boy, it's a tough hill, is it
23:16
not? Yeah, I mean, their schedule
23:20
opens up a little bit. I know they still have a chance
23:23
in the division because the Steelers are not running away
23:27
with it at this very moment. They do have a two game lead.
23:30
The Bengals, we know are weekend without Joe Burrows.
23:33
We don't know when they'll get back on track.
23:35
The Browns are not really piece of competition, but the AFC as a
23:38
whole is better with the Colts and Jaguars off to surprisingly
23:42
good starts here. So that helps.
23:44
And the Chargers and Chiefs seem to be on track a little bit.
23:48
And then maybe the Patriots would be a factor in the playoff
23:51
race as well. So look, the Ravens are just not
23:54
playing well. That's the biggest concern.
23:56
It's not like they can flip a switch and start winning.
23:59
But on the bright side, if you're Ravens fan, you'd say,
24:02
look, we played some of our hardest games.
24:05
I mean, the Bills game was a tough one not to win.
24:09
If they've won that game, maybe things will be a little
24:11
different at 2:00 and 2:00, much more than one and three.
24:14
But so far, there are losses into the Lions, Ravens and
24:18
Chiefs. Now, they probably figure they
24:20
should have had a better shot than Lions being a home game.
24:23
So you could say maybe 3 and 1 was their best scenario here.
24:27
So they're underachieving by two games, but you can justify those
24:31
results. But now it's time.
24:34
Now that that margin error for error is gone, you have to
24:37
pretty much be on point the rest of the year.
24:39
Let's go to the team that was on the other sideline that didn't
24:42
move to two and two. Kansas City, certainly an eye
24:44
opening performance out of them, not just winning the game, but
24:46
in the fashion that they did. Vinny, when you look at this
24:49
squad and you look at this Kansas City team, there was
24:52
people hoping to throw some dirt on them.
24:54
Certainly doesn't appear to be the case Now they're healthier
24:56
and they're getting Rishi Rice back here pretty soon.
24:59
You look at this squad and it looks like more of the same.
25:01
Can you make the argument they might be the most complete team
25:04
in the AFC? Well, I think that's been the
25:07
case for a while. I think that's why they've been
25:11
the dominant team in the FC and that's why other teams have not
25:14
been able to breakthrough except for the Bengals in recent years.
25:16
So that's basically business as usual and everyone wants style
25:20
points, I think from the Chiefs, not only them, but the Eagles at
25:23
four and O. But they don't need to do that
25:26
anymore. They've already proved
25:27
themselves. It's like the Patriots, when
25:29
people used to RIP in the Patriots like they have only one
25:32
goal is to stay healthy, play well and get to the Super Bowl
25:37
and win it. So I think the Eagles have kind
25:40
of crossed over to that threshold.
25:42
The Chiefs have already been there.
25:43
Like they don't really care about 2:00 and 2:00 where
25:46
they're at. They obviously don't even care
25:48
about home field because they've been able to get it done without
25:50
home field before. So I think they're just
25:53
methodical. They may not be as exciting as
25:56
people want, but I think some of that exciting Patrick Mahomes is
25:59
starting to come back with. They were Worthy back.
26:02
And if Worthy and Rice can stay healthy together for this team,
26:06
I think they're going to become a lot more dangerous, especially
26:09
when Travis Kelsey is becoming a limited factor.
26:12
But I think the way that Hollywood Brown and Taekwon
26:15
Thornton and other guys have contributed this, this can be a
26:18
very dangerous Chiefs passing game down the stretch, even if
26:21
you don't see Chelsea all of a sudden turn back the clock.
26:25
I'm looking for a team video. I spent last night trying to
26:27
find a team that's kind of in under the radar right now and
26:31
that's kind of how you listed them in your power rankings.
26:34
And I came up with the Seattle Seahawks is the team that, you
26:37
know, I didn't give much chance prior to the season.
26:39
Tough division. Obviously the Rams are there the
26:42
Niners a lot of love for that easy schedule.
26:45
Sam Darnold, we saw him fall apart late in the year, last
26:47
year in Week 17 and then obviously in the first playoff
26:50
game. But Mike McDonald's a terrific
26:53
coach. The defense is absolutely
26:55
loaded. The Seahawks, are they maybe one
26:57
of those under the radar? Keep an eye out for this type of
27:01
team. Yeah, I mean, they're definitely
27:04
playing well. I mean, the defense you figure
27:06
was going to improve with Mike McDonald, That's where they're
27:08
at. They're kind of have pretty
27:10
strict formula. They're going to for some
27:13
turnovers, play some defense. They're a lot like the Vikings
27:15
game plan, except they do a little bit more of the running
27:18
than they do with the passing. So they're kind of following
27:21
that blueprint with the the former Ravens defensive scheme.
27:26
So when you look at that look, they're going to be in it and
27:29
it's a good test this week. They're hosting the Buccaneers.
27:31
The Buccaneers also a good opportunity after their first
27:35
loss, a tough one at home to the Eagles.
27:37
How do they respond? How do they kind of just say
27:41
we're short handed, but game day from Mayfield is playing well.
27:44
So this is a good test for Seattle to see again.
27:48
Can they hang with some of the better teams in the NFC
27:52
consistently go forward? That's what we have to see.
27:55
I mean, they didn't look all that good against the 49ers in
27:58
their first Test. So we'll see how this one goes.
28:00
So we saw the return of Micah to Dallas and a 4040 tie.
28:05
Just an incredible football game.
28:06
So much fun and entertaining. Is this what the Cowboys are
28:09
going to be this season though? Really entertaining, going to
28:11
score a ton of points, give up a ton of points and and is that
28:14
enough for them to at minimum maybe hang around and Dallas
28:18
could be a team with the right kind of December that could find
28:21
themselves maybe into the wild card mix?
28:24
Yeah, I mean, the NFC has got some holes for sure.
28:28
And there's no guarantee on a lot of these teams.
28:31
I mean, you figure Eagles are going to make it.
28:35
Maybe you feel confident about the Buccaneers, then maybe the
28:38
Rams, right? But there's everything else
28:40
that's kind of up in the air in terms of how we're going to see
28:44
these things play out with all these divisions.
28:47
And the North is the division to watch to see if there's multiple
28:51
teams coming out of it again. But when you look at the whole
28:55
landscape, right, Yeah. The Cowboys, they showed some
28:58
signs on defense. But look, the Packers were
29:00
supposed to be this dominant defense.
29:02
They shared cracks, too. So to me, I don't think there's
29:05
a team that can just win with defense anymore.
29:08
Like you have to have ability to outscore the other team and step
29:12
on the gas. We've seen it with the Lions.
29:14
We're seeing it with the Rams now.
29:16
You have to be able to do that in certain games.
29:19
The Eagles and most approved capable do that.
29:21
So again then the profile to be competitive, I think how to put
29:27
this in perspective, I think that the tie for the Cowboys was
29:30
huge. I think the Packers had to be
29:32
disappointed about that tie, but I think the Cowboys can gain a
29:36
lot of confidence. A Packers were supposed to go in
29:38
and roll us the and a big lead. We came back, we fought, we got
29:44
if you're playing hockey terms a point out of it.
29:47
You know that they didn't expect to get in the standings.
29:50
So it's that high can come into play and they get The Jets this
29:53
week. So there should be every
29:54
expectation they get to 500. Vinny Iyers, our guest from The
29:58
Sporting News. Vinny, I watched as most people
30:00
did Monday Night Football last night.
30:04
Joe Burrell, I don't know when he's going to be back, if he is
30:07
that best. It sounds like, you know, early
30:10
December. And I'm not sure if there'll be
30:11
anything to play for at that point or any reason to come
30:14
back. But the reason that he could
30:16
come back is if they make a change at quarterback.
30:19
I know you've suggested Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins is still
30:22
out there. What's the likelihood that the
30:24
Bengals shop for a veteran quarterback?
30:27
A stopgap until Joe Burrow is ready to go?
30:30
Browning, nice story. Last year or two years ago,
30:33
whatever it was when he came in, obviously not the the it's not
30:37
going the same way this year. Do they need to add a veteran?
30:39
Do you believe they will? Well, I think I I just don't get
30:44
how you can look at those two games and say we're in a good
30:47
spot, right? It's just not possible.
30:50
I mean it wasn't even competitive.
30:52
It's a difference between struggling, OK, the Vikings and
30:56
Broncos defense is not easy. Not 2 favorable back-to-back Rd.
31:01
starts to take over for an elite quarterback, right.
31:03
It's all that fair. He hasn't played at home and
31:05
Browning might be playing better at home, but they get Detroit
31:08
this week. So I mean that type of offense
31:13
is not going to beat Detroit. So, I mean, I don't know if
31:17
teams look at it that way. Are they just trying to be
31:19
competitive in these games and kind of inflate, oh, yeah, we
31:22
can slow down Detroit enough to win the game.
31:25
Like, I think there's kind of a fallacy to think that, right?
31:29
I mean, you have to think about what can we do to win games?
31:32
What's the problem area right now?
31:35
The problem area right now is you're not getting the ball to
31:37
your wide receivers. And that's where your money is
31:41
on this team when it's not Joe Burrow.
31:43
So go get somebody who's going to put the ball in the hands of
31:46
these wide receivers. I mean, there's lesser backups
31:48
doing this, right? Even if Tyra Taylor knows, OK,
31:51
I'm going to put it in the ball in the hands of my play makers
31:54
and just try your best. I mean, look, there's offensive
31:57
line issues, They're not a great running team, all that stuff.
32:01
But maybe that's why they need somebody who can create a little
32:05
bit more. And Russell Wilson can still do
32:07
that. He's slowed down with his arm
32:08
and his legs, but he's also very cheap and he's not having a job
32:12
right now, and I think he'll be something to watch like Jame or
32:17
Jameis Winston will take anything here just to make the
32:20
Bengals a little bit more competitive because it's kind of
32:23
frustrating to watch their receivers do nothing.
32:26
Speaking of frustrations, there's a feels like there's a
32:28
lot of it for A.J. Brown cryptic tweets and I found
32:31
this that absolutely fascinating.
32:33
First more games of the year, the Eagles have been hit yards
32:37
per play by every single opponent, yet they're four and O
32:40
very difficult to do. I mean yards per play.
32:42
Right now they're hanging out the likes of Cleveland,
32:44
Cincinnati and Tennessee. That's what is happening in
32:47
Philadelphia. Two years ago, though, they got
32:49
that ten and one start. I think we could all see there
32:51
were concerns there. Do you have concerns with this
32:54
Eagles team or there is doing what they need to put piling up
32:57
the wins? They'll be fine.
32:58
How do you look at it? Yeah, I did mention earlier the
33:02
Eagles are kind of like the Chiefs.
33:03
They don't need you over dissecting their dial points or
33:07
how they got to wins. They're in the bottom line
33:09
business really. This is that's what we're doing
33:12
here in the NFL, right? The bottom line, are you winning
33:15
games? And I think people again, comes
33:18
back to the Patriots, people have that same frustration.
33:21
How do they win with this roster, with this type of
33:24
offense and defense? Will they change every week to
33:27
adjust to their opponents and find the best way to attack them
33:30
and beat them, which a lot of teams do not do?
33:33
Well, honestly, the Eagles just kind of OK, you're going to take
33:36
away this, we're going to do that.
33:37
Or we think we were going to go in and do this, but then we
33:41
couldn't. So we're going to adjust and
33:42
pivot to this and this grind out of win.
33:45
I think that's frustrating to some people when you look at the
33:48
Eagles and Chiefs and how they win.
33:51
But that's the price that comes with this.
33:54
Really good, right? You're just good.
33:57
So you can find different ways to win.
33:59
You don't have to light up the stat sheet to do things.
34:02
And I think, look, the Eagles are just fine.
34:05
I mean, they still have not lost the game, but Neil Hertz,
34:09
Devonta Smith, A.J. Brown and Stakewon Berkeley play
34:13
and healthy together. I mean, that's all you need to
34:15
know. Like when those four guys are in
34:17
the lineup, they win. And A.J.
34:19
Brown can tweet all he wants about this, but he's getting
34:22
well paid to do a lot of things for the Eagles when they need
34:27
it. And he's a Super Bowl champion,
34:28
so I don't know what else he wants.
34:31
Like, you know, your time will come.
34:33
You're going to be needed in a bigger spot.
34:36
I mean, so just it's a marathon here.
34:39
It's not coming down to, oh, I didn't get the ball in one game.
34:42
So what I mean, there's a lot of games that you need to get the
34:44
ball in, so. Good stuff.
34:47
Vinny Iyer from the Sporting News Locked on Network where he
34:49
has his daily fantasy football pod.
34:52
Fat locked on network. Sporting News for Vinny.
34:54
Vinny, thanks for jumping on. Appreciate it.
34:56
We'll talk to you down the road. Thank you, Vinny Iyer.
34:59
Yep. Thanks guys.
35:00
Good to talk to you, Vinny Iyers.
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We check in on the NFL. Checking in on the wild card.
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35:08
the top of the third. They're up 1 zip.
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Is there is there another the radar team for you?
36:20
Like to me it's the Seahawks. I'm not saying they're going to
36:22
win the Lombardi Trophy, but I I didn't give them much of a
36:25
chance prior to the season. It would be them.
36:29
I think as I try and identify that, you know, team that's kind
36:33
of lingering in the middle of the pack that just come back and
36:36
maybe take a look in a month or so.
36:38
I think it's still Atlanta for me.
36:41
And that that loss that they had two weeks ago to Carolina, you
36:46
know, this head scratcher, right?
36:47
I mean, there's, there's a couple of those every single
36:50
year. Like not just the team loses,
36:51
loses in that kind of fashion. I still think we're going to
36:55
have kind of look back at that. I don't same thing.
36:57
I don't think they're winning anything big.
36:59
They're not making a run to the NFC Championship game, but a
37:03
playoff team. I still believe that there's
37:05
enough there. They have improved the pass rush
37:07
enough, coupled with Pennix, his growth, his maturation, that
37:11
they're going to be fine. I mean, he's got weapons all
37:12
over the field. Yeah, no, he does.
37:14
It feels like finally, maybe Pitts, maybe the light bulbs
37:17
coming out for him. Obviously London is an absolute
37:19
stud. They got good veterans like
37:22
Mooney. So the peace is there.
37:23
Football, you know, going back to that, that game, that Sunday
37:27
night game against the Vikings, he just, he's such an incredible
37:30
athlete. He is just one of those special,
37:33
special types. So I think there's enough there
37:35
certainly in the NFC that would be a team that I haven't given
37:38
up on 2:00 and 2:00, but I think they're they're still going to
37:40
be definitely be part of the mix.
37:41
Top team in the NFC? Is it the Eagles for you?
37:44
No. It's not the Eagles, all right.
37:46
Is it the AND? There, there's something off
37:49
there. With the Eagles, yeah, you don't
37:51
like their offense. Well, I hate their offense.
37:52
They didn't complete a pass in the second-half.
37:54
I. Know it's hard to believe and
37:55
they're four and O they had a big lead.
37:57
It's a good thing because Tampa, if it would have showed at them,
37:59
is it the Lions? Maybe?
38:01
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way.
38:03
It was so dreadful. They get beaten in a fashion
38:06
that they did. New coordinators, new offensive
38:09
line, a lot of new, yet the talent's still there.
38:12
And because of that, if I power rated right now, because if the
38:16
Lions and Eagles are playing this weekend on a neutral, who
38:18
you taking? I'm taking the Lions.
38:19
See, and, and that's kind of how I like to look at it with my
38:22
power rankings that we do. Heck, if they played the Bucks
38:25
this weekend on a neutral, Yeah. Maybe right?
38:27
I might take Tampa now. I wouldn't take San Francisco or
38:30
Seattle. How about the Rams?
38:32
The Rams, yeah, they they had them beat.
38:34
They had them beat. They dominated that game for
38:37
3/4. I can't believe they lost the
38:39
game and. Maybe it's also the memories of
38:42
two years ago, as I mentioned with Vinny, what happened to
38:45
them. Even with that great start, it's
38:47
something felt off and something, again, just feels
38:49
off. AJ Brown's talking about, you
38:51
know, he's quoting Bible verses about, you know, not saying
38:54
anything and getting out of here when you're doing things like
38:56
that. That's a problem.
38:58
He had 9 targets in the game, 9 targets, 2 catches.
39:01
Yeah. Is something off with Jalen
39:04
Hurts? Do you think there is?
39:06
I don't know. No, I don't think so.
39:08
Obviously, I'll might have a different opinion after they
39:11
play Denver this yes weekend. So let's go.
39:13
Can they beat somebody good please so.
39:15
I think Denver's gonna give me a game.
39:17
You do. Well, I do too, because I do.
39:19
I don't believe in Philadelphia, so that's not going to barely be
39:22
the elixir for me. Look.
39:23
At Denver's defense and and let me stop right now because I was
39:26
screaming at the TV at Riley Moss or leading that football
39:29
game again last night because here we go again.
39:32
And it was here we go again. And then all of a sudden was it
39:34
wasn't. I don't know what they did.
39:36
I don't know what Riley Moss did.
39:38
Or maybe it's a combination of just heating up Jake Browning.
39:42
But T Higgins was a non factor anymore.
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Chase was a non factor when it was Riley Moss on him.
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But Moss got off to a terrible start again.
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But it was he the rest of the game, he was fine.
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Is it the Chiefs in the in the AFC or is it Buffalo?
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And I know you don't like their. Defence I don't if.
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This weekend, Buffalo, Kansas City neutral field.
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I've taken Kansas City. I hate to say it.
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I know you do. I bet the Chiefs against
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everybody that's got a prayer in the NFC last night.
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Every single one of them. I just can't.
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I had to do it. I had to do it.
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Why do we have to have these conversations every year?
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Late September, early afternoon. I try to tell you all spring and
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summer, you won't listen. No, you dig your heels in.
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Yes. And here we are once again.
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It's been a decade, yeah. A freaking decade of domination
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in the AFC West. I mean, we'll see if Buffalo had
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a defense. I think that they've got a
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chance out of the North. I just don't see the Ravens.
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I mean, I hope that they can turn it on.
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Just stay close, win the division, you get a home game.
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You don't need to have to be the one or the two.
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Just win the division. Is that defense beyond repair?
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Yeah, I think it is. I think it is.
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I mean, they're going to get some of their dudes back, but
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Cincinnati? No.
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Can the? Colts keep building.
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I mean this, these offensive numbers are unreal and it's not
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just the non punting things. I mean, you dive into the DVOA
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and some of the other numbers that are out there gave the.
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Rams a hell of a game, yeah. Absolutely.
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And I was shocked. That's where I walked away most
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impressed maybe with the Colts in a loss than I do the three
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victories. That was eye opening.
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No, it was all right. Back to baseball.
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My free and my screen is frozen up, so I can't tell you what's
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going on. Oh, no.
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