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Rich Lowry | Editor-In-Chief of National Review Speaks on Latest from Iran · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Which Lowry will admit it too. I think you will.
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  Speaker 2: The amazing editor of the National Review, Richard good Morning,
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  Speaker 2: How are.
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  Speaker 1: You, Buddy good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? You are always right?
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  Speaker 1: Crazy right. I know you know what it is. I'm
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  Speaker 1: being stored here. You know what it is. It's not magic,
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  Speaker 1: and I.
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  Speaker 2: Know what kind of kidding around. But the truth is
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason why I am often right. It's
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  Speaker 2: all instinctual. You know, people love the common sense, common sense.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of it is that, you know. It's just
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to know all the minutia, every intricacy
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  Speaker 2: of every story out there, but I've got great instincts
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  Speaker 2: and common sense. You'd be surprised how many times you
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  Speaker 2: end up right. You got to remove the partisanship, which
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  Speaker 2: for me is always very difficult because I am very partisan.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not that difficult, is it.
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  Speaker 3: Rich I can't say you're wrong, and I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 3: you're wrong because you're always right.
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  Speaker 1: There, he goes, That's why I love which Lowry.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what all kidding aside. I've been
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  Speaker 2: right all along about the Iran war.
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  Speaker 1: Have I not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? So right right in that You're like he's stuck
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  Speaker 3: and we can't get out of this, even though I
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  Speaker 3: support the.
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  Speaker 1: Goals correct one.
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  Speaker 2: And while people were celebrating we won, we already won
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  Speaker 2: talking about economic indicators and all that nonsense.
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  Speaker 3: Deal with bs Yeah, yeah, you're right about that, yeah too.
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  Speaker 1: So where are we with this conflict?
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  Speaker 3: It looks like he's preparing just to hit him real
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  Speaker 3: hard again. I just my take it's it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: come out with something we're going to be happy with
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  Speaker 3: unless you reopen reliably the straight of wore moves by force.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you hit him really hard, you know,
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  Speaker 3: bomb bridges, whatnot, you might get him on another fake deal.
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  Speaker 3: But but you're never going to get them to loosen
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  Speaker 3: their grip on the straight unless you take it from them.
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  Speaker 3: And the problem is it's hard. It's going to be protracted.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it could be a year long operation or
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  Speaker 3: you know, I stretching it next year or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: And the President is not interested in that. That's not
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  Speaker 3: what he signed up for. But he's he's staring in
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  Speaker 3: the face the other option, which is like a BSMU
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  Speaker 3: that basically to facto, gives them control the straight, and
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't like that either. So I think it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a tough situation. I do think it's going to hit
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  Speaker 3: him and see see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing is is we keep talking about no
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  Speaker 2: regime change. It's not our job and it's not just
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  Speaker 2: about the strait up home moves. I'm sorry, and it's
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  Speaker 2: even less about getting the dust, which really, when I
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  Speaker 2: have an honest conversation, is almost impossible.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. Unless you stop putting boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: And you got invade the place right, You got invade
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  Speaker 3: the place that you might as well top of the
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  Speaker 3: regime bang.
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  Speaker 2: That is the only way to victory, which is wipe
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  Speaker 2: out the IRGC, or at least will equipple them. And
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  Speaker 2: there has to be regime change. You don't win this
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  Speaker 2: conflict just by in the straight up warmonds. That's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: I've said all along. Once you started this and blew
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  Speaker 2: up all those guys on that Saturday morning Operation Epic Fury.
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  Speaker 2: There has to be regime change or nothing changes in
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  Speaker 2: ten years.
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  Speaker 1: What's the heart to figure out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we could topple the government in a week
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  Speaker 3: if we wanted to. Right, we have massive power, but
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  Speaker 3: we're really gonna, you know, launch a major ground invasion
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  Speaker 3: of Iran. You know, we're gonna lose probably hundreds of guys,
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  Speaker 3: and there may be an insurgency afterwards, because the RGC
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  Speaker 3: was just kind of fade away and become a terrorist
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  Speaker 3: for US like Camas. And then then you're into a
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  Speaker 3: war of counterinsurgency, and then you're into what the Trump's
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  Speaker 3: allies have called forever wars, or Trump himself is called
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  Speaker 3: a forever war. So I just don't think he there's
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  Speaker 3: the appetite for that. I don't think there's a consensus
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  Speaker 3: in the country for that, and I don't think we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna do that. So that you're right that that wins
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  Speaker 3: the war, but he's not gonna do that. So so
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  Speaker 3: you're left with these kind of less maximal options that
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  Speaker 3: are less likely to deliver the result.
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  Speaker 1: You want, that don't win the war bottom line.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, you know, I've been thinking a lot about Rome,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the ancient world, because of it's a
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  Speaker 3: Greek story, but because of the Odyssey and other things.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is the Romans they'd lose battles, they'd lose
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  Speaker 3: terrible battles, they get humiliated, and emperors would get captured
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  Speaker 3: and killed. They'd lose a dozen legions and they'd always
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  Speaker 3: win the war because they'd always come back. They're always
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  Speaker 3: completely determined. They always have massive forces. We never lose
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  Speaker 3: a battle. We haven't lost a battle since World War Two,
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  Speaker 3: but we lose wars, and we lose wars like in Vietnam,
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  Speaker 3: arguably Iraq and Afghanistan because we have the massive forces.
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  Speaker 3: So if you have a straight up shooting battle, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna win it. But the other side has more staying
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  Speaker 3: power and we have less, and that's how they win
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  Speaker 3: the war. So that's the situation we may be looking
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  Speaker 3: at here, or at least that's the asymmetrical advantage the
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  Speaker 3: Iranians have is their fanatics aren't going anywhere and can
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  Speaker 3: absorb massive punishment, and we have we have a limit
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  Speaker 3: to our pain threshold.
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  Speaker 1: And they can deliver punishment too.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know, while Peyton Hegseth, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: being completely honest about our munitions, talked about this yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with Solomon.
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  Speaker 1: He agreed, it has a lot more weaponry than we're
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  Speaker 1: telling our people.
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  Speaker 2: Why China, Russia, these countries are providing the Iranians with weaponry,
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  Speaker 2: How do we know we find it? It's got the
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  Speaker 2: country's name on it or the numbers, whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 2: So they're not running out of weaponry anytime soon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they have a lesson they did, but it's
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  Speaker 3: never going to go to zero. And the other thing
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  Speaker 3: is governments. They're often people often accuse the governments of
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  Speaker 3: lying during warfare and times of war, and they do,
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  Speaker 3: but oftentimes they also just fool themselves. So I think
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  Speaker 3: we're just putting the rosy numbers on how much we've
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  Speaker 3: destroyed because that's what we want to believe. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're an intelligence analyst and you look at a hit,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of squint the right way and you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know that one's done. But actually it's just the
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  Speaker 3: bunker was hit and the missiles still there and you
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  Speaker 3: can dig it out, you know. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing is going on as well.
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  Speaker 2: You and I didn't talk, you know, on the show
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  Speaker 2: earlier last week. We haven't talked since the JD Vance
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  Speaker 2: interview with Joe Rogan. I think you know how I
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  Speaker 2: feel about JD Vance. I'm not going to go over
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  Speaker 2: it again, board of it. What were your thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: that awful interview?
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  Speaker 3: And well, we did talk about you know, blaming the
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  Speaker 3: Israeli influenced campaign for undermine mo Ouah, which was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But look, the guy is incredibly talented. He's very glib.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's ever done a bad interview. I
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  Speaker 3: think he'd come on with you and and charm you,
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  Speaker 3: and he will come out with you around and never
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  Speaker 3: be cornered.
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  Speaker 1: He won't come out with me, came on with you, but.
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  Speaker 3: If he did, he would so. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: true of the Rogan interview. And there's one thing relevant
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  Speaker 3: to the Iran debate that kind of set up a
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  Speaker 3: little light bulb in my head. He said, you know what, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: if you went to a rock near the straight ofform
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  Speaker 3: Moves and you bought a couple of drunk commerciales and
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  Speaker 3: put you know, firecrackers on them, you could close the
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  Speaker 3: straighter from Moos for some period of time because all
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  Speaker 3: you have to do is create some level of risk
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  Speaker 3: for those ships. Like one guy. Now, now, we'd hit
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  Speaker 3: Joe Rogan if he did that right, and the threat
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  Speaker 3: would be eliminated. But you multiply that thousands of times
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  Speaker 3: over and it just gets to how hard it is
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  Speaker 3: to reopen it in such a way that insurance companies
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  Speaker 3: are going to ensure people at a reasonable level, and
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  Speaker 3: commercial shippers are going to go through because none of
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  Speaker 3: these guys signed up for military operations, right, They just
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  Speaker 3: signed out to be on a tanker, on a slow
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  Speaker 3: moving tanker for a couple of months, you know, or.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's truly right. Do you believe which Lowry as a
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  Speaker 2: New Yorker? What's going on in this city with this mayn?
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  Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, And you're right about that too. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, almost everything you've been right about I've
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  Speaker 3: encouraged you to be right about over time and said
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  Speaker 3: that you're right, you know. And when everyone's like meeting
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  Speaker 3: with Mom Dommy and saying he's so reasonable and he's a.
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  Speaker 1: Smart guy you went to Brooklyn Tech. No he's not.
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  Speaker 1: He's a scumbag, that's what he is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And from day one I said, stick to your guns.
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  Speaker 3: So look, the potential upside to Mom Dami is if
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  Speaker 3: he's just giving speeches about arresting bb NET and not
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  Speaker 3: doing anything else, that's the city dodging a bullet. The
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  Speaker 3: thing is he's imposing his genda agenda and doing these
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  Speaker 3: crazy things that get to his fervent anti Zionism and
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  Speaker 3: these people. I wasn't aware of this, but the DSA
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  Speaker 3: was founded by someone a guy named Michael Harrington, who's
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  Speaker 3: who is a kind of a good old fashioned socialist.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't an identity politics guy. He hated communists, and
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  Speaker 3: there was a provision in the DSA charter or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is saying, if you're a communist, you can't be
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  Speaker 3: a member of this organization. But what happened. The communist
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  Speaker 3: all came in the last couple of years and repealed
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  Speaker 3: that provision and chased out all the people who were
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  Speaker 3: kind of Michael Harrington types. So what's happened to the
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  Speaker 3: DSA is trying to take is infiltrating and trying to
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  Speaker 3: take over the Democratic Party at the same time, the
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  Speaker 3: DSA has literally been infiltrated and taken over by communists.
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  Speaker 3: It's really bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see the story today too, or going
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  Speaker 2: back to Trump for a second, that the Secret Service
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  Speaker 2: has now probed over ten thousand what they perceived to
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  Speaker 2: be legitimate threats ten thousand the Trump's life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing, but not surprising. I mean, they if
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  Speaker 3: they have any opening to do it, they will try.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what we've seen with the Secret Service lapses,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and Butler and on the golf course there
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  Speaker 3: at the hotel during the White House Correspondence dinner. It's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit like you know, Russia during the time
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  Speaker 3: of the czar is you just had these crazy people,
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  Speaker 3: these anarchists who love thrown bombs, and they're just determined
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  Speaker 3: to kill the czar, and eventually they did it.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about that White House Correspondence dinner, they decided to
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  Speaker 2: reschedule it. Believe it or not, it comes your way
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 3: How about that, Rich, I haven't focused on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 2: One last thing, you know, Trump has done very very
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  Speaker 2: well with his candidate excluding the communist secretary, to win
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  Speaker 2: in New York and around the country.
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  Speaker 1: But it was nice to see the former NFL kicker.
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  Speaker 2: He's a friend of mine too, Jay Peely went out
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  Speaker 2: there in Arizona, and a lot of people are saying
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  Speaker 2: that that seat in Arizona may very well determine who
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  Speaker 2: wins the House.
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  Speaker 1: That was a big win for Trump a couple of
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  Speaker 1: days ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean, there's nothing better in Republican politics
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  Speaker 3: than getting endorsed by Trump. And a competitive primary. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't one hundred percent work out for you, but it
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  Speaker 3: works out for you very often. I love former athletes
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  Speaker 3: Mark Teshia or a friend you know is Texas coming
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  Speaker 3: to Congress from Texas? Yeah, so again, I think the
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  Speaker 3: Republicans are losing the House, and you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: the Senate could be in your run.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, Well, you think the Democrats take the House, and
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  Speaker 2: you think the Senate is what?
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  Speaker 3: I think the Senate is in play. I think Democrats
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  Speaker 3: will win the House and the Senate is in play.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough for them because they got to win a
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  Speaker 3: lot of red states. You know, they got to take
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  Speaker 3: a Texas and Ohio and Iowa and Alaska. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they'll do it, but I think there's there's
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  Speaker 3: definitely some significant chance they do it.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're right in essence, In essence, President Trump's
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  Speaker 2: presidency ends in November, because at that point he'll be
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  Speaker 2: impeached every day. What do you mean, No, they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: peach him every single day. He's being done, anything done?
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  Speaker 3: But is he really going to So much of what
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  Speaker 3: he's done he's done unilaterally. It's not as though he's
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  Speaker 3: governing through Congress. Right, So I think you'll keep doing
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  Speaker 3: the foreign affairs stuff, keep doing the executive actions. But
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  Speaker 3: he's getting impeached at third time, no doubt. And everyone's
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  Speaker 3: getting subpoena everybody, right, yep, they may a youth, Sid
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  Speaker 3: be careful.
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  Speaker 2: If I was that, I certainly would. I gotta tell
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  Speaker 2: you that I certainly would. Rich is always amazing job.
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  Speaker 2: We love having you on every week. We love you,
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  Speaker 2: Rich Lowry. Thank you so much, all right, my man right, dad,
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  Speaker 2: the editor of the National Review. He's so smart, great
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