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Celebrating 100 Years: When God Spoke Through Moody Radio & From the Occult to Christ with Jac Marino Chen & Rekindling Your Faith with Dr. Mark Yarborough · Karl and Crew

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S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced God, overcome
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S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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S1: the truth daily.
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S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
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S2: and you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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S2: that would make it worth it.
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S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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S3: the life source, which is God.
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S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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S1: and crew.
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S5: Memories are a funny thing. They can be, they can
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S5: be not so good, obviously. And they can be tremendous.
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S5: And usually there's nothing mundane. It's either bad or great.
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S2: Yeah. I mean, the things that stand the test of
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S2: time in our minds. I mean, most people can't remember
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S2: what they ate two days ago or even yesterday couldn't
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S2: recount everything that they ate. But yeah, certain things get
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S2: kind of seared into your brain. Good or bad? You're right.
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S5: Yeah. How long have we worked together? You and me, Allie.
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S2: Uh, boy, we're coming up on nine years.
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S5: Okay. There was one time and one time that I
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S5: remember when it went south. I, I forget, I forget
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S5: what was even going on. I forget what was going on.
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S5: But I was getting chippy with Allie, and.
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S2: I probably got chippy back.
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S5: Yeah, but I'm not going to offer that.
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S2: I'll offer.
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S5: It. But we got we started getting a little chippy
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S5: and then Allie did the right thing. We were about
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S5: to go on air. Allie goes, I need a minute.
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S4: I do remember that. No.
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S5: And now he says, I need a minute. And out
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S5: the door she went.
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S2: I think I probably went and hung out in the
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S2: ladies restroom for like five minutes.
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S5: It wasn't.
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S2: Long. No, like five minutes to just kind of cool
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S2: things off. And, you know, there's nothing like trying to
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S2: go back onto the radio and. Oh, boy. Thankfully, that's
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S2: been a lot of years.
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S5: Oh, that was that was at least seven years.
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S2: We were in the old studio. Oh, at that time,
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S2: because I remember that swinging door, pushing that swinging door
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S2: like I'm out of here.
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S5: Howie, I love you, kiddo.
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S2: Oh, boy. We've had we've had some memorable moments over
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S2: the years.
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S5: I'm crying right now. Those are tears of joy. Oh,
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S5: so that wasn't a bad one. I mean, there's way
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S5: worse than the marketplace, for crying out loud. I have
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S5: to work together for so many hours as a poor girl.
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S5: Pray for her. I mean, it's it's. But it's good.
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S2: It's a joy. And it's yeah, it's it's, it's always
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S2: an adventure. Because the thing about doing a radio show
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S2: like this? Is that you? You really you really can't
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S2: fake it. And so when in that moment, there was
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S2: really no way that we could go on radio and
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S2: kind of sound in any way natural together, united when they're,
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S2: you know, when we had had kind of that moment
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S2: of friction. And so it was.
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S5: I cannot even tell you what it was about. All
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S5: I can tell you is what the downstream was. And
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S5: all I know is that for a few minutes, I'm like,
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S5: should I go look for her? Okay. She'll be back.
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S5: All right. Everything's fine.
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S2: She'll be back. Right? She is coming back. She didn't, like,
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S2: go all the way out.
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S5: Oh, I knew that wasn't the case. No, no. Oh
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S5: goodness sakes, it's funny. I'm laughing. I'm laughing. I got
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S5: tears coming down my face.
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S2: I'm glad to know that I've influenced you in that way.
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S2: I don't think you were a cry laugh before I
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S2: got here.
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S5: No, that was I don't know that I was.
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S2: I tear.
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S5: Up.
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S2: Every time I cry. It's. It's embarrassing because it always
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S2: looks like I'm laughing way harder than the moment requires. Yeah.
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S2: And so like everybody else is normal, laughing and tears
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S2: are streaming down my face. And I'm like, no, really,
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S2: this is just how I laugh.
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S5: So we've had so many good memories here. I mean,
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S5: I can list them on and on. We were doing
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S5: a remote one time at a church, not a remote.
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S5: We were at an event. I just remember being with
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S5: Ali and Henry and their two kids, and just my
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S5: privilege of watching them worship together as a family and
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S5: us out encouraging some folks here in Chicagoland. That was
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S5: super memorable. I think of all the times when we've
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S5: had callers come in with life changing stories that leave
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S5: us gobsmacked, just like, wow. Yeah, and we get a
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S5: front row seat for that.
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S2: Do you remember a couple of years ago? We did.
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S2: Oh boy. This was maybe 2018, 2019. We did like
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S2: a coffee shop tour. Do you remember.
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S5: That? Oh, that was so good.
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S2: Oh, that's a lot of fun. That was one of
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S2: my favorite memories. I remember being out in one of
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S2: the suburbs, and I was at a little coffee shop
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S2: that was right by a train. The train. The the.
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S2: I believe it was the metro, the Amtrak, one of
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S2: the ones that runs from the suburbs to the city.
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S2: And just the amount of people who streamed in. And
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S2: I got to hear so many stories and it felt
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S2: like this family, even though for most of the people
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S2: they'd never seen me, I'd never seen them. But there
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S2: was this faith in common, obviously, but just the joy
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S2: of knowing that kind of we're in this thing together.
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S2: Moody radio is a uniter.
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S5: And we don't get to see you. And obviously now
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S5: that our. Our reach is broadened out and. But what
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S5: a joy it'll be to see our friends from Clearwater
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S5: and from Cleveland and from Indy that we might not
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S5: see this side of glory. Uh, I'm going to be
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S5: speaking at a walk worthy event for a bunch of
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S5: men in Cleveland. That's the first time I've ever uttered that.
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S5: When is that event? Forget when it is.
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S4: Yeah, I'm looking at you going great.
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S5: Coming up this winter or something. But I'm in Cleveland, man.
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S5: I'm going to be in. Uh, speaking at a walk
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S5: worthy event in Cleveland. Fired up to see you guys.
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S5: And we're going to try to get around, but we
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S5: won't be able to see everybody. But boy, those are
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S5: good memories. And to think one day we're going, I
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S5: don't even know how crazy it's going to be, but
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S5: there's going to be this reunion of Saints that are
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S5: reunion only because we've had a communication from afar. It's
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S5: going to be an extraordinary thing. Memories are something else,
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S5: aren't they?
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S2: They really are. And so one of the things that
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S2: we're doing as part of our birthday celebration is collecting
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S2: and celebrating some of these memories. And so we would
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S2: love to hear from you this morning. How did the
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S2: Lord use Moody Radio to meet you in a moment?
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S2: It could have been a joyful moment. It could have
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S2: been a difficult moment, a moment of you were seeking
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S2: the Lord for clarity. Remember that moment when what you
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S2: heard on the radio was exactly what you needed to
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S2: hear that day.
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S5: Yeah.
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S2: That's what we want to hear from you. 805. Five. 578, 98.
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S2: What you heard on Moody Radio in one moment was
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S2: exactly what you needed to hear. What was it? Who
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S2: were you listening to? What do you remember about that day? 805. Five. Five. 78. 98.
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S2: Taking your calls. 800 555, 78. 98.
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S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but
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S1: God showed her. She didn't have to. Ali is in
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S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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S5: It's Carl and crew. We're nearing our 100th birthday, and,
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S5: you know, I want to be really clear. This is
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S5: not about Moody radio. It's about the gospel.
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S4: Absolutely.
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S5: There's nothing to do with Moody Radio. It's about the gospel.
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S5: It's about the good news and all that Jesus has done. And,
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S5: you know, the beautiful thing about truth wherever you hear
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S5: it across this dial on Moody radio, here's the awesome thing.
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S5: The truth will set you free on this Freedom Friday.
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S5: We're just saying, what's that memorable moment? How did the
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S5: Lord use Moody Radio to allow you to hear exactly
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S5: what you needed in that moment? Tell us about it.
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S5: I want you to give us a call right now
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S5: if this is you. 805 557898. It can span the
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S5: the scope of life and liberty and everything that we're
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S5: up against. What was it for you? 805 five. 578. 98. Catherine.
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S5: First time caller. Chattanooga, Tennessee. What's your memorable moment, Catherine?
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S6: Last July, you guys had a guest on there that
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S6: was talking about how to, um, how men and women
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S6: feel when they get in an argument. Men feel respected
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S6: or disrespected, women feel unloved. And that really hit me.
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S6: So I actually messaged my ex-husband and apologized for my behavior.
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S6: And that started the dialogue. And we have since reconciled.
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S6: We remarried the day before our third divorce, the anniversary
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S6: of our third divorce.
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S5: Oh, Catherine. Catherine. I don't even have words right now.
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S5: That is one of the most for that to be.
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S5: The first call here is one of the most amazing things. Catherine,
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S5: I want to thank you for listening to the Spirit
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S5: of God. He's done a miracle, hasn't he, Catherine?
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S6: He sure has. Because we're coming up on now what
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S6: will be our 18th anniversary rather than our 21st. But
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S6: God has done a great, great, amazing miracle in our lives.
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S5: Oh, Catherine.
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S2: Wow.
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S5: I think we need to pray a prayer of praise
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S5: right over that one. Allie, would you do it?
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S2: Lord, what an absolute miracle that God that you would
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S2: use the words of a guest speaking the Word of
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S2: God on this program at right at the moment when
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S2: Catherine needed to hear truth? Thank you for the humility
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S2: that it took for her to receive it from you, God,
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S2: and to act on it in obedience, as we've talked
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S2: about this week, Lord, we thank you. We know that
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S2: that is not a work of man. That is not
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S2: a work of moody radio. That is a work of
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S2: your spirit. So we thank you and we praise you, Lord.
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S2: We join in celebration for what you have brought back together. Lord,
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S2: thank you. In Jesus name. Amen.
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S5: Amen. Catherine, you made our day, sister.
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S2: Wow.
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S5: That is so beautiful.
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S6: You guys. I so enjoy listening to all you encourage
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S6: me every morning.
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S5: Oh, you you just I don't have, I don't have
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S5: I don't have any socks on because you just encouraged
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S5: him off of me. Encourage your socks.
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S2: Off. And half. You know, I think that must have
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S2: been Doctor Emerson Eggerichs. That sounds like his love and respect.
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S5: You know, I was, I was I was thinking that
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S5: or Shante because she hits those exact two themes but
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S5: it might have been Emerson. Yeah. But wow. Oh my goodness.
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S2: That's beautiful.
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S5: Okay. We can shut her down. It's amazing. Amazing. Taking
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S5: your calls. Ali, what's the question?
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S2: Yeah. We're asking you for those memorable moments with Moody Radio.
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S2: The Lord used Moody Radio in your life to allow
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S2: you to hear exactly what you needed in a single moment,
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S2: just like Catherine just shared. So not a general this is.
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S2: You're taking us to a moment. You needed to hear
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S2: something and you turned on the radio and that's what
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S2: you heard. 805. 5578, 98.
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S5: Marion Franklin, Indiana. What do you say, Mary?
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S7: Good morning. Um, I was estranged from my son, uh,
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S7: for about three, 3 to 6 months and no talking.
11:29
S7: He was totally lost. And I kept trying to, uh,
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S7: fix things, and I was listening to Moody radio on
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S7: my way into work in this guest was talking about
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S7: how she had a prodigal son. And he, um, she
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S7: realized that she was trying to help God help her son,
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S7: and that when she realized she had to stop and
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S7: totally trust God with her child and get out of
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S7: his way and let God write her son's testimony, I was.
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S7: It hit me right in the heart because I was
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S7: doing the same thing, and I knew that asking God to.
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S7: Allowing God to write my son's testimony would mean that
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S7: he would probably suffer. And I had to release and
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S7: ask him, you know, Lord, don't. I don't want to
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S7: lose him. But if you if you let him die,
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S7: then I'm trusting you for his life. And it didn't happen.
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S7: God worked and he is totally turned a 180 and
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S7: I didn't have a thing to do with it.
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S5: Mary that's so cool, sister. Well, you did, and then
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S5: you backed away and gave him to God. That's what's cool. Yes.
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S5: You got out of God's way. Yes. Beautiful. Mary.
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S7: Yes, it was very hard to do.
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S5: Of course.
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S7: Thank you for the opportunity.
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S5: Yeah. Godspeed to you, sister. Much love.
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S5: Let's go back to the phone lines here. Ali.
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S2: We've got Curci calling in from Chatsworth, Georgia. Curci, tell
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S2: us about that memorable moment with Moody Radio. You heard
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S2: exactly what you needed to hear.
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S8: Yes. I've been listening to you guys for a couple
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S8: of years now, and, um, over a period of about
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S8: a couple of weeks, I kept hearing things about Esther
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S8: and to the point where one morning before I turned
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S8: on Moody, I was in my prayers. I asked God,
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S8: if you're wanting me to study the book of Esther,
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S8: can you give me confirmation? Because I heard it so
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S8: many times. And, um, the first thing that was said
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S8: out of Carl's mouth when I turned on Moody after
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S8: my prayer time was, we're studying the book of Esther,
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S8: We're talking about Esther this week. So I picked that
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S8: as my confirmation and that that took me on a
13:53
S8: journey of just really diving into the book of Esther.
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S8: And I learned so much from it. I got so
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S8: much from it.
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S5: So beautiful.
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S8: You were my confirmation.
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S9: That's great.
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S5: That's great. Glad to hear it. That's really sweet. Kurchi
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S5: from Chatsworth, Georgia. What a sweet story.
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S10: I love it.
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S5: Michaela and Burchfield. Burchfield, Florida. What's your story, Michaela?
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S11: So I was going through a phase where I was like,
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S11: trying to figure out I have the demon of pride.
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S11: I have the demon of this. I have the demon
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S11: of anger. And I was driving one morning and I
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S11: hear you tell your story, Carl, about in the apartment
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S11: when you're in college and you're like, invite this friend
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S11: to your apartment or your room, and you know, he's
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S11: going through this like hour or two with you. And
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S11: then he's like, you don't have a demon problem. You
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S11: have a moral problem. And then Carl, you literally said
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S11: into the microphone, you don't have a demon problem. You're
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S11: the problem. Oh, okay.
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S5: Michaela.
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S12: You spoke right to me. I said okay.
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S5: Isn't that though? Isn't that freeing? When you can finally
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S5: look in the mirror and go, that's my problem right there.
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S12: Yeah.
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S5: Oh, Michaela. Godspeed to you, sister. We love you. And
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S5: thanks for listening here. That's beautiful.
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S10: Oh, this just blows me away.
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S2: Because with each of these stories, it's taking me back
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S2: to a moment because I'm going. Yes, I remember you
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S2: shared that story. Yes, I remember that guest said so
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S2: many incredible moments that we've had on radio, and God
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S2: orchestrates all of it.
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S5: Every bit of it, every bit of it. Few memorable
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S5: moments here. The Lord used Moody radio in some way
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S5: and you needed it big time. 805. Five. Five, 78, 98. 5557898,
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S5: give us a call.
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S1: It's Carl and Crew on Moody radio.
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S5: Rita in Chicago. Thanks for holding on. Rita, what's your story?
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S13: Hi. Good morning and I love you guys. I love
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S13: Moody radio. Um, I actually, a few years ago, I
16:06
S13: found out, uh, while pregnant that I was going to
16:10
S13: have a son with down syndrome. And as someone who
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S13: has lived a very wild, crazy life in the past,
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S13: and if by God's grace that I'm here today, redeemed
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S13: through his Son Jesus. I thought, well, surely God is
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S13: punishing me. I did all these bad things in the past.
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S13: He's punishing me. I kid you not. I sit in
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S13: the car and I'm driving on Lakeshore Drive and I
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S13: turn on Moody Radio, and I don't know who the
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S13: messenger was, but he kept saying the words, God is
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S13: not angry with you. God is not got angry with you.
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S13: He said it like 4 or 5, six times. And
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S13: in that moment, I knew God was telling me that
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S13: he is not angry with me. This is just his will,
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S13: his plan for me, and exactly what I needed to hear.
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S9: Wow. Yeah, it was Rita.
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S5: Bless your heart, sister. Thank you for being a listener here,
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S5: and thank you for being such a great woman of God.
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S5: Takes a lot of courage, and it's a cool thing
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S5: when you can hear something that the Spirit of God
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S5: uses to really encourage your soul. That's just powerful, isn't it?
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S10: It really is.
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S2: You've got Terry calling in this morning from Deerfield, Florida. Terry,
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S2: tell us, what did you hear? That was exactly what
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S2: you needed.
17:22
S14: Well good morning guys. How are you?
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S9: Good morning. Good.
17:26
S14: I just wanted to let you know that you guys
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S14: are awesome. And what you just did this morning, like
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S14: five minutes ago. I think her name was Catherine. Yes.
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S14: From last last year, she had an epiphany that she
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S14: needed to apologize to her husband. And it was something
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S14: that she heard on the radio. and I just heard
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S14: her say it. So I'm going to do the same thing.
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S14: It was it was a stupid debacle that we had
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S14: last night. And it's like, you know, your pride can
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S14: step in the way sometimes. And God gives you the
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S14: exact message that you need to hear to do that.
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S14: And that was this morning, like ten minutes ago.
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S9: Wow. How cool is that? Awesome.
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S14: Awesome. I'm going to do that. And I thank you
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S14: guys so much.
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S5: We love you.
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S9: Terry. Terry.
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S5: It's a great word. That word sister. Going back to
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S5: the phone lines, Jeff in Tampa, Florida. What do you
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S5: say Jeff.
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S15: Hey good morning. The joy of the Lord is our strength, guys.
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S15: And I just want to say a little over a
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S15: year ago, I was listening to Ali give her testimony
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S15: and she talked about how everyone else in church was
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S15: always so excited and raising their arms, and she couldn't
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S15: figure out what was missing in her life. And she
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S15: said something that just stuck. It was I until I
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S15: became privately healthy. I couldn't become publicly fruitful. And it
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S15: changed the course of my life. I dove into the
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S15: word after that every day. And man, man, oh man,
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S15: is God faithful to show up?
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S9: Oh.
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S2: Jeff, that is so awesome. That is a phrase that
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S2: I repeat often. Pastor Toledo or Al Toledo at Chicago
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S2: Tabernacle Church. That is his heart poured out. He's got
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S2: a book coming out actually on that topic with coming
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S2: out very soon. So I want to make sure that
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S2: you get that, Jeff, but thank you so much for
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S2: sharing that. But that's, that's so powerful.
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S5: That is beautiful. Let's go to Eleanor and Alsip, Illinois.
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S5: What do you say, Eleanor?
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S11: Oh my gosh.
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S16: I was estranged from my daughter and I was I'm
19:22
S16: so emotional right now. And it's been 20 years and
19:25
S16: I'm driving and, and I, I cried out to God
19:31
S16: and I said, I guess the prodigal son only works
19:35
S16: for sons and not daughters. And in that instant on
19:39
S16: Moody radio, they started talking about the prodigal son, and
19:44
S16: I knew that God was there and he heard me
19:47
S16: and he heard my pain. And soon after that, my
19:50
S16: daughter and I came back together. And God is always
19:53
S16: on time.
19:54
S9: Oh, I'm.
19:55
S16: Sorry. I'm so emotional.
19:57
S9: It's okay. Wow.
19:59
S5: Eleanor, that is sweet. Sister. We love you. We're so grateful.
20:03
S5: That is beautiful. Martha in Franklin, Tennessee. What's your story, Martha?
20:09
S17: Hey, um, I was living as a Christian, and just.
20:13
S17: It was kind of humdrum. I really wasn't didn't have
20:17
S17: Jesus in my heart, but I was trying to do
20:19
S17: what was right. And I went to the dry cleaners
20:22
S17: one day, and Mark job was on the radio and
20:24
S17: I listened. And then I asked the lady, you know,
20:28
S17: what is that? You know, what station is that? So?
20:32
S17: But from that moment on, I don't remember what he said,
20:36
S17: but he. God. My heart burst open for the Lord
20:43
S17: at that moment. And I'd say, um, my husband and I,
20:48
S17: you know, were baptized together just a little shortly after that,
20:52
S17: you know, but before that, I was just mediocre and
20:55
S17: I don't know how to explain it. But anyway, that moment,
21:00
S17: that moment, it just it's like he grabbed my heart.
21:03
S5: That is so beautiful.
21:05
S17: I'll never forget it. Martha Moody radio. Thank you.
21:09
S5: I'm going to pass that on to pastor Mark Jobe
21:11
S5: for you. I will I will let that be known.
21:14
S5: And that is cool. Didn't even know the station existed.
21:18
S5: Going into a place listening.
21:20
S2: Of all places.
21:21
S5: A dry cleaner. Yeah.
21:24
S9: Wow.
21:24
S5: That's funny. My dry cleaner didn't have moody on. We can.
21:28
S5: You never know, though. They might do it. How sweet
21:31
S5: is that, Ali?
21:32
S2: It's. What's the biggest encouragement to your heart as you
21:34
S2: listen to these.
21:36
S5: Just the smattering of every which situation under the sun
21:42
S5: from thinking what the situation I'm in is God's punishment
21:47
S5: for the past to. And then getting that just totally
21:51
S5: eradicated by one statement or word to salvation's, to sanctification stories. Um, wow.
22:00
S5: I mean, this is, this is awesome. Jeff's story that,
22:05
S5: that quote from Al Toledo and how God used that in,
22:11
S5: in such a powerful way. All of these are just,
22:13
S5: they're just rich. It's God at work.
22:16
S9: Yeah.
22:16
S2: And you think about just the sovereignty of God and
22:19
S2: that he's absolutely the Lord of the details of our lives.
22:23
S2: Like the fact that he orchestrates that a conversation that
22:27
S2: we're having on radio, or that Chris Brooks or Chris
22:30
S2: Fabry or Mark job or the many other awesome hosts
22:33
S2: that you hear and that we're just doing what we
22:36
S2: feel the Lord has called us to do for that day,
22:39
S2: and that somebody turns on the radio not one second
22:42
S2: too early or too late to hear the exact words
22:46
S2: that speak to whatever it is that they're needing to hear.
22:49
S5: It's powerful.
22:50
S2: It's like, it's just, it blows my mind how he
22:53
S2: can make all that work.
22:55
S5: Yeah. Yeah. It is that good? It is that good.
23:00
S1: Take your next step with Jesus today. You're listening to
23:04
S1: cast and crew.
23:05
S5: Well, Freedom Friday. We love hearing stories from the boom crew,
23:10
S5: and on occasion, we'll bring someone in and someone new
23:14
S5: to the show going, all right, how did God change
23:17
S5: your life? I think we got one today.
23:20
S2: We do. Her name is Jack. Short for Jacqueline Jack
23:23
S2: Marino Chen. She is a new voice here as she
23:26
S2: was saved out of a past of abuse, addiction, new
23:30
S2: age practices. There's a lot to your story. It's such
23:33
S2: a story of victory that I know our listeners are
23:35
S2: really going to resonate with. Let's start with those early years,
23:39
S2: because there was trauma early on that marked and shaped
23:42
S2: the years that followed. Go ahead.
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S18: Yes, I thought that I was a Christian, kind of
23:47
S18: like you're born an American, but I had never heard
23:49
S18: the gospel, and I didn't really know who Jesus was.
23:52
S18: And at a young age, I was sexually abused at
23:55
S18: a very young age. And then when I was around
23:56
S18: five years old, Unrelatedly, my dad struggled with drug and
24:00
S18: alcohol abuse, and so my mom separated from him for
24:03
S18: our safety. And so I had a lot of pain
24:05
S18: and turmoil entering the world.
24:08
S5: You know, Jack, when we talk with people on air
24:11
S5: about this, there's some people that are resilient, not in
24:17
S5: their own strength, but in the power of Christ. And
24:20
S5: then there's some that get stuck there. You've gone through
24:24
S5: a lot. Sister. First let's go into the portion of Jesus.
24:27
S5: Save me from me. How did God call you out
24:31
S5: of darkness?
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S18: Oh, amazing. I was deep in the occult, practicing ritual
24:36
S18: magic in a Masonic temple and. Because the Bible was
24:39
S18: used completely out of context, twisted in rituals. And different
24:44
S18: things in the order, I thought I might as well
24:45
S18: read it for myself. And God used me reading the
24:48
S18: Bible to pierce me with the truth of his word.
24:51
S18: And in one of the darkest moments of my life,
24:55
S18: I realized my weakness. As I was spiritually attacked, I
24:58
S18: collapsed to my knees. And because I had heard the gospel,
25:01
S18: I cried out, Jesus Christ, save me! And in that moment,
25:04
S18: I felt the peace I'd been searching for my whole life.
25:07
S18: I was amazed that the God of the Bible, the father,
25:10
S18: the son, and the Holy Spirit is over and above all,
25:12
S18: the powers of darkness that I was in because I
25:14
S18: had thought I was too far gone to be saved.
25:16
S18: And from that point on, I crawled to my bed,
25:18
S18: started reading my Bible that was under it from Genesis
25:22
S18: to Revelation, and was just so amazed by the reality
25:25
S18: and truth of who Jesus Christ truly is.
25:27
S5: So here's the cool thing. Jack Marino Chen is our guest, Jack,
25:31
S5: short for Jacqueline and check you hit two sides of
25:36
S5: a very important coin. You went through ungodly, wretched, undeserved garbage.
25:43
S5: And yet, when you were pierced with the gospel, you
25:46
S5: saw God's redeeming power from that and from yourself. Explain
25:52
S5: that for our listener.
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S18: Yes. So one, I just I was at such a
25:56
S18: dark point that I didn't even want to be here anymore.
25:59
S18: From drug and alcohol addiction to just my own sin,
26:02
S18: this crushing weight of my own wickedness, having channeled beings asking, um,
26:07
S18: dark entities to enter my body, not realizing that I was,
26:10
S18: I believe, going through demonic possession after years of these practices.
26:14
S18: It was just so heavy and so dark that I
26:17
S18: thought I'd dug myself into a pit too deep to
26:20
S18: ever crawl out of. I had no hope. And on
26:23
S18: top of that, I had this crushing weight of holding
26:27
S18: on to the secrecy of that childhood sexual abuse my
26:29
S18: whole life and sin against me, and abusive relationships. So
26:34
S18: between my sin and sin of others to me, and
26:36
S18: then my sin of practicing in the occult. I was
26:40
S18: just crushed under the weight of my sin. And so
26:42
S18: to get to know Jesus, to read about how you
26:45
S18: know God is perfectly holy, we have all sinned and
26:48
S18: fallen short of his glory, and there's a just punishment
26:51
S18: for that sin that is a real place called hell,
26:53
S18: which I was aware of. And yet God is love,
26:56
S18: and he sent his only son, Jesus Christ, truly God
26:59
S18: and truly man, born to a virgin to live the perfect,
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S18: sinless life we have not lived, even though he was
27:05
S18: tempted as we are, that he went to the cross
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S18: bearing sinners sin, and God's wrath in the place of
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S18: sinners dying, raising on the third day, ascending to the
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S18: right hand of God the Father, as the one and
27:15
S18: only mediator between God and man. That those who repent
27:18
S18: and put their faith in Christ alone can truly have salvation,
27:22
S18: their sins atoned for eternal life, freedom from sin. Christ's
27:26
S18: righteousness accounted to us. Like to see the reality of
27:29
S18: the gospel was does not compare to any of the false,
27:32
S18: quote unquote higher knowledge in the occult.
27:35
S9: Time out.
27:36
S5: Boom. Right.
27:37
S9: Ali?
27:37
S2: Yeah.
27:38
S9: I mean, come on. That was the gospel. Is that
27:40
S9: the gospel.
27:41
S5: Or is that the.
27:42
S9: Gospel? Oh my goodness.
27:44
S2: Beautiful. Jack Marino Chen is with us this morning. Her
27:47
S2: book is called Ensnared Overcoming the Darkness of the New
27:50
S2: Age and Occult in the Light of God's Truth. You know,
27:53
S2: your background, you got pretty deep into this stuff with
27:57
S2: ritual magic and new age practices. It's interesting how some
28:02
S2: of this stuff, and it's what maybe people perceive as
28:04
S2: its milder forms, has become more and more common. You
28:08
S2: hear about people, tarot card readings, the popularity of that
28:12
S2: Ouija boards, visiting psychics, people using, you know, sage and
28:17
S2: things like that. And I don't want to get too descriptive.
28:20
S9: But it's on the uptick.
28:21
S2: What do you say to that? To people, even some
28:24
S2: Christians who don't necessarily see the real risk of some
28:27
S2: of these things.
28:29
S18: Mhm. Absolutely. Well, we see it's getting more and more
28:31
S18: common in our culture. And sadly, because it seems to
28:34
S18: be on every corner the psychic, the tarot reader, the crystals, and,
28:38
S18: you know, normal shops, it doesn't seem as scary anymore.
28:41
S18: And yet those things from Ouija to crystals, all those
28:44
S18: things that looked so glittery and beautiful led me into
28:47
S18: some of the darkest corners of the occult. And I
28:50
S18: love the way the old Puritan Thomas Brooks puts it
28:52
S18: that Satan presents the bait but hides the hook. He
28:55
S18: presents the golden cup but hides the poison inside. And
28:58
S18: so when we see, you know, witch talk and the
29:01
S18: next generation getting really into witchcraft and this desire to
29:04
S18: make ourselves like God, these lies promised to put the
29:07
S18: wand in our hand to create our own reality. And
29:10
S18: yet there are these glittery things that are leading to
29:13
S18: our own demise. It's a bait hiding a hook. It's
29:16
S18: so destructive and so it's so important that we're biblically
29:19
S18: literate and that we're able to compare what is being
29:22
S18: presented in our culture as beautiful with scripture to see,
29:25
S18: you know, that sounds almost right, but it's not right.
29:28
S18: And we know that because we know the word of God.
29:30
S5: Yeah, a lie is nothing but the truth with the
29:32
S5: twist at the end. All right. I want to get
29:34
S5: your take on this one. Ali and I talk about
29:35
S5: this from time to time. In fact, Ali brought it
29:37
S5: up and I and now I see it everywhere. Everybody's
29:41
S5: talking about manifesting something that is it's at best man centered.
29:50
S5: Doesn't have anything to do with God, but it's at
29:53
S5: worst really dabbling in something crazy, isn't it?
29:56
S18: Yes, absolutely. That was one of the biggest gateways to
29:59
S18: me into the new age, as in high school, coming
30:02
S18: across the book The Secret, that was just about the
30:04
S18: law of attraction, the idea that thoughts create reality. And
30:07
S18: that's really where the manifestation thing comes from, believing that
30:10
S18: we have the power inside of ourselves to create our
30:14
S18: own reality, which is super alluring and attractive. The occult
30:18
S18: idea behind it is just as above, so below this
30:20
S18: old hermetic teaching. But basically, if you just boil it
30:24
S18: all down, it's your eyes will be opened and you
30:26
S18: will be like God if you embrace these things that
30:29
S18: are forbidden, you know, we're back in the garden in
30:31
S18: Genesis three. But to our sinful nature, it sounds really
30:36
S18: alluring to be told we don't have to turn from sin,
30:38
S18: but we can gain the power to be like God
30:40
S18: through these practices that are very accessible in our culture. Um,
30:45
S18: and so yeah, it's heartbreaking seeing people using the word
30:47
S18: manifesting just in common conversation. It's not even weird anymore,
30:52
S18: but the core of those teachings are very dark and
30:55
S18: extremely opposed to God.
30:57
S2: Jack. It's Friday and so we have something called Freedom
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S2: Friday here on Carl and Crew. What does freedom look
31:04
S2: like for you now? What are you experiencing that you
31:07
S2: never could when you were in your past life?
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S18: Uh. So amazing. I love the reality of second Corinthians
31:14
S18: 517 that I'm truly a new creation in Christ. When
31:18
S18: I was in the new age and occult, I did
31:20
S18: all these rituals and all these practices and it was
31:22
S18: like a mirage, an illusion. It was, I thought I
31:25
S18: was getting better, I thought I was changing, but nothing
31:27
S18: was really happening. I was still enslaved to my sin
31:31
S18: and lost. And yet in Christ to be born again.
31:34
S18: It's not just the external has changed. It's not new.
31:37
S18: Paint on an old car. Who I am inside is
31:40
S18: a new creation. Freedom from sin, eternal life, and a
31:44
S18: different desires like the whole package from the inside out
31:48
S18: is new. Not because of anything I've done, not because
31:50
S18: of any works I did to earn God's favor, but
31:53
S18: because of what Christ has done. It's amazing. There's nothing
31:56
S18: like the gospel of Christ.
31:59
S5: All right, one final word here, because there's people that
32:02
S5: feel like they are enslaved to something. Some have been
32:07
S5: born again. Some have an illusion of salvation. They think
32:11
S5: they've been born again, but they've really just been church ified.
32:15
S5: Pour out your heart to that person that feels hopelessly
32:18
S5: stuck in whatever can be a childhood. Abuse can be
32:22
S5: their own. Abuse can be wrong thinking that manifests from
32:26
S5: childhood wounds. How do we walk free, Jack?
32:30
S18: Well, one, I totally just. My heart goes out to
32:32
S18: you because I so can relate to that feeling of
32:35
S18: just being stuck, feeling. I felt like I was in
32:38
S18: a feedback loop. And yet my encouragement to you would
32:41
S18: be to look to Christ, to look to Christ in
32:44
S18: whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
32:47
S18: Colossians two three says, so this world, it can be
32:51
S18: so dark and there's so many lies. But the more
32:53
S18: that we look to Christ and really fix our gaze
32:55
S18: on the gospel, on what Christ has truly done, there's
32:59
S18: no higher knowledge than the gospel of Christ. So run
33:02
S18: to him, pour your heart out to him, depend on
33:04
S18: him in prayer, and fix your eyes on the truth
33:07
S18: and get your eyes off the lies.
33:10
S2: Jack Marino Chen, author of the book, Ensnared Overcoming the
33:13
S2: Darkness of the New Age in Occult with the light
33:16
S2: of God's truth. As she writes worship music, she maintains
33:19
S2: a very active YouTube channel. Just text saved. We'll get
33:23
S2: you linked up with her text saved to 805 557898,
33:29
S2: saved to 805 557898.
33:33
S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
33:37
S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
33:41
S5: I'm not big on participation awards, but I'm.
33:45
S4: Not either.
33:46
S5: I'm going to make an exception on this. You are
33:48
S5: either super. I know. And it's just like, ah, it
33:52
S5: just it feels like it's like, okay, I was part
33:57
S5: of this. Me and 200 others. Yeah. Come on up
34:00
S5: and get your blue ribbon. I'm like, I get it.
34:06
S5: But I, I actually, oh, I gotta tell a story.
34:10
S5: So I was, I was in charge of field day
34:12
S5: in little Rock, Arkansas, and our kids were at a
34:14
S5: school where I would go out on recess on Fridays.
34:19
S5: And I was like the, I was the quarterback on
34:22
S5: both teams for all these kids and I. Oh goodness sakes,
34:26
S5: I can get choked up thinking about it. I love
34:28
S5: these kids, man. And and, um, without getting into too
34:34
S5: many details, uh, field day was going to be coming
34:39
S5: and they didn't have anyone to run it. So the
34:41
S5: principal came out and said, you're kind of out here
34:44
S5: trying to be athletic. Why? Why don't, why don't you
34:48
S5: do it? And what I, what I had was, I
34:50
S5: think it was fifth grade, fifth and sixth grade boys.
34:52
S5: So anyway, when the bell would ring, they'd come running down.
34:55
S5: And I mean, this, this thing grew to the point
34:58
S5: where I had had like 40, 50 kids. So I'd
35:00
S5: split them right down the middle. I'd have them count
35:02
S5: off and a couple of the kids, like my son
35:05
S5: was in a rat pack and they'd get, you know,
35:07
S5: positioned where they could get on the same team, you know?
35:09
S5: So I know, know now today I'm cutting it right
35:13
S5: down the middle. Dad, what are you doing? I son,
35:16
S5: just chill out. And so we we'd have we'd have
35:21
S5: a great time out there doing that. It was just great.
35:26
S5: And field day, they said, we need somebody to run it.
35:29
S5: I go, I'll run it. And so I started doing
35:32
S5: all the planning and boy, did we have a field day.
35:35
S5: I brought out a guy that brought a sound system
35:37
S5: and he was spinning records or whatever back in the
35:40
S5: day that was probably CDs or something. Um, but we,
35:46
S5: the day was amazing, but there was one sticking point
35:50
S5: and there were a couple of parents that were on
35:54
S5: the PTA or whatever that's called. And they're like, hey,
36:00
S5: we don't want to do, you know, first, second, third.
36:03
S5: We want to give everyone. I'm like, no, we're not
36:06
S5: doing that. We're not doing that. We're giving first, second thirds. No, no,
36:15
S5: I said, no, I'm running this thing. And I was kind.
36:18
S5: I was kind about it, but I said, and then
36:20
S5: I said, there's some of these kids. This is where
36:23
S5: they excel. They don't excel like your kids do at
36:28
S5: biology or creating volcanoes that erupt or something like that.
36:32
S5: You know what I'm saying? All that stuff. This is
36:34
S5: their lane and we're giving away ribbons. Anyway, it came
36:41
S5: off and it went so well. I came back and
36:43
S5: did it the next year as well.
36:46
S4: That's great.
36:47
S5: But there's there's sometimes when participation is rewarded. And in
36:53
S5: this case, I really believe that your participation will be
36:58
S5: rewarded no matter what it is. And and it's because
37:03
S5: your words are going to be such an encouragement that
37:07
S5: there is reward in heaven for just taking part. And
37:11
S5: we've got this site, this birthday site, and we really
37:15
S5: want your participation and it will be rewarded. So here
37:20
S5: we go. I'm breaking my own rules here, Ali.
37:23
S2: Yes, it is the Moody Radio birthday website. Our 100 years.
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37:30
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37:41
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38:07
S5: Yeah, just take some time to do this. I'm. I
38:11
S5: know what it feels like. I walk out of a
38:13
S5: restaurant and I'm like, I'm going to give them a
38:16
S5: recommendation and then I space it out. My bride's good
38:19
S5: on that one. We were at a place on vacation
38:22
S5: and I said, man, I'm going to give them a recommendation.
38:24
S5: And she reminded me, you're going to give them a
38:27
S5: you're right, I got to do that. And this is
38:30
S5: one of those things that in your heart, you're like, yeah,
38:33
S5: that'd be cool to participate in. I'm asking you to
38:36
S5: follow through. Give us the link one more time. Ali.
38:38
S2: Just next birthday, 805 557898.
38:42
S5: Yeah. What's God done? Give us your story. We want
38:45
S5: to hear it. We really do. Okay. What's coming up here, sister?
38:48
S2: Yeah, we have a special guest, doctor, Mark Yarbrough. Have
38:51
S2: you ever felt like you were in a spiritual slump,
38:54
S2: like your faith needed a bit of reviving? We're going
38:57
S2: to hear from doctor Mark Yarbrough coming up.
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S5: Yeah.
39:01
S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
39:03
S4: You are so so loved. God does not want you
39:07
S4: to stay in your past. And I want you to
39:09
S4: know and believe that today.
39:10
S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
39:12
S5: Uh, using this metaphor of spiritual CPR, mainly because Mark
39:17
S5: Yarbrough has really a passion for this. In fact. Six
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S5: essentials for reviving your faith out of the rekindled heart. Man,
39:25
S5: you want to blow life into dead or near dead things,
39:28
S5: don't you? Mark.
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S19: I love it, I love it, that's what God's in
39:31
S19: the business of doing.
39:33
S2: You know, doctor Mark Yarborough, a popular Bible conference speaker. Professor,
39:36
S2: he's got a book out The Rekindled Heart six Essentials
39:39
S2: for Reviving Your Faith. When somebody is in some sort
39:42
S2: of an emergency situation, whether it's choking or whether there's
39:46
S2: CPR that's needed, it's usually pretty obvious. Sometimes a crowd
39:50
S2: is gathered. Maybe there's been some sort of collapse. There's
39:53
S2: some physical element that cries out, this person needs help.
39:58
S2: How do we know, though, if our spiritual life needs
40:01
S2: to be revived? It doesn't necessarily scream in that same way.
40:05
S2: But there are signs.
40:07
S19: Oh, there are signs. I tell you what I mean.
40:09
S19: It's it's like the picture of a of a fire
40:11
S19: that's gone out. You know, we've all been camping before
40:14
S19: and you know, when that fire is dying down, you
40:17
S19: can feel it, you can see it. I mean, if
40:19
S19: you're sitting by a fire, you even know when the
40:22
S19: heat is going down. And for a lot of us, right,
40:24
S19: with our live, I mean, we know when we're crashing,
40:26
S19: we know when either we're not walking with the Lord
40:29
S19: or circumstances of life have just hit us, you know,
40:32
S19: square between the eyes and you're going, okay, this is
40:35
S19: not what I want it to be.
40:37
S5: Yeah. So I got a question for you. Just pressure
40:40
S5: test that. Do you think the church of Laodicea knew
40:43
S5: that they needed to let Jesus back in? I mean,
40:47
S5: it's written to the church that warning. And I they
40:49
S5: thought they had it all going on. So the idols
40:53
S5: of this age can intoxicate us. But there's if we're
40:57
S5: really filled with the Holy Spirit, there's that holy hunch
41:00
S5: that something ain't right here. Right, Mark?
41:02
S19: That's exactly right. And I think that there are those
41:05
S19: that do and those that don't. I mean, let's call
41:07
S19: it what it is. When you find yourself in these moments,
41:10
S19: sometimes it's just kind of slowly going down, and then
41:14
S19: you have a moment to look back and go, where
41:16
S19: have I come from? Why? Why am I currently here
41:20
S19: where I am? There are other individuals, I promise. In Laodicea, right?
41:24
S19: There had to have been individuals that knew, right? And
41:27
S19: they're like sitting there going, something is not right here.
41:30
S19: So what can we do? And that's the question I'm
41:32
S19: asking in the book. How can we have rekindle that heart?
41:35
S19: And what are these essentials for reviving your faith?
41:38
S2: Let's talk about some of those. Doctor Mark Yarbrough. What
41:41
S2: what are some of those essentials to reviving your faith
41:45
S2: when that fire started to dim?
41:47
S19: Well, I tell you, the first one that I challenge
41:49
S19: people with all the time is what I call a
41:51
S19: rekindled devotion, a bold trust in God's Word. I mean,
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S19: it is a basic charge to get back to God's
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S19: Word when we realize and we profess all over again.
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S19: It's good for believers to do this. You know, Hebrews
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S19: chapter four, the Word of God is alive and powerful.
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S19: It's sharper than any two edged sword. We could go
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S19: to second Timothy chapter three, verse 16. One of my favorites,
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S19: all Scripture is God breathed that word that Paul used to.
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S19: Timothy of the Anastasis. It's this powerful Greek word of.
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S19: It's the very exhale of God in written form. So
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S19: here's my point. When we as believers think back to
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S19: when we first came into a relationship with the Lord Jesus,
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S19: and we began to engage with God's Word and realize
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S19: that this is what God has said. It was transformative.
42:42
S19: And so that's one of the things that I ask
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S19: people all the time, hey, if you find yourself in
42:46
S19: a spiritual slump and you need that CPR as you're
42:50
S19: talking about, you need your heart rekindled. I say, how
42:53
S19: much time are you spending in God's Word? Are you
42:55
S19: listening to what he has said? It's a very basic
42:58
S19: call to get back to the book.
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S5: Okay, so here's an interesting thing. I'm not trying to
43:04
S5: take a shot here, but you'll agree with this. I
43:07
S5: think doctor Mark Yarborough is our guest right now. You
43:10
S5: are the president of Dallas Theological Seminary. Now, the old
43:14
S5: knock is don't go to cemetery. It's they're called oftentimes cemeteries.
43:20
S5: And we all joke about that. And when I went
43:22
S5: to Denver Seminary, I heard that over and over again.
43:26
S5: I want you to delineate between people that know the word.
43:31
S5: And it begins to get cold because they become knowledge
43:35
S5: brokers versus that alive dynamism, because that is a threat
43:40
S5: at seminary. It's a threat in church pews and chairs
43:43
S5: every weekend that we get puffed up with knowledge. So
43:47
S5: we know a lot about the word, but the Word
43:49
S5: of God is not alive. It's not rekindling our heart.
43:52
S5: How do we get there and stay there?
43:55
S19: Well, I tell you, number one, I acknowledge what you're saying.
43:58
S19: I agree with what you're saying. And it is true
44:00
S19: that can happen anywhere because, uh, again, as you said, right?
44:05
S19: Knowledge can puff up, but knowledge can also be a
44:09
S19: really good thing to praise the Lord for that. But,
44:12
S19: but what you're asking me is how how do we
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S19: avoid against that? And I'd say the number one thing
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S19: that I would say is that we've got to have
44:19
S19: a broken heart, a constant soft heart before the Lord,
44:23
S19: to let the spirit do his thing in our lives.
44:27
S19: And so that is a temptation at seminary. It's a temptation,
44:31
S19: as you said in the pew at a Bible believing
44:34
S19: teaching church, where you can be in a study. You know,
44:37
S19: one of my mentors of the of the faith, Howard Hendricks,
44:40
S19: longtime professor at Dallas Seminary, now been with the Lord forever.
44:44
S19: I can remember listening to him. He had these prophecies
44:47
S19: and he would say all the time, you know, the
44:48
S19: Bible was not written to satisfy your curiosity. It was
44:52
S19: written to change your life.
44:55
S20: That's the way he said it to.
44:58
S19: There you go. That's it right there. I mean, yeah,
45:01
S19: I'm all about, you know, knowing more information. And we
45:04
S19: want our students to do that, right? We take Bible
45:06
S19: competency tests. We want them to grow in their knowledge
45:09
S19: of the Lord. But I tell you what, man, if
45:11
S19: they have, have not grown in their brokenness before the
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S19: Lord to have their life changed. And it means we failed.
45:19
S19: And that's true of any believer. And that's why we're
45:22
S19: talking about this topic today.
45:23
S2: Doctor Mark Yarborough, our guest, the author of The Rekindled
45:27
S2: Heart six essentials for Reviving Your Faith. Coming up, what
45:30
S2: are the top three reasons that Christians struggle to keep
45:34
S2: their walk with Christ vibrant? We'll ask him that question
45:37
S2: coming up here on Carl and Crew.
45:39
S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
45:42
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S21: What are the top three.
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S2: Reasons.
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S21: That our Christian.
45:50
S2: Faith, our vibrancy can start to fade? Doctor Mark Yarborough
45:55
S2: with us right now, he's written a book, The Kindled
45:57
S2: Heart six Essentials for Reviving Your Faith. What are those
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S2: top three from your vantage point?
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S19: Well, I'll tell you what, there's a lot of things
46:03
S19: I could say. Here's where I'm going to narrow it.
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S19: I'm going to say number one is our own sin.
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S19: And that's not a pleasant thing for any of us
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S19: to talk about. But that's who we are. We're sinners.
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S19: And sometimes we find ourselves in the entrapments of the world,
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S19: and that will put a barrier up between us and
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S19: the growth of our faith, the working of the spirit
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S19: in our lives. And I see that all the time
46:27
S19: when I'm talking with individuals. That's number one. I would
46:29
S19: say that. Number two, I would say it's the sin
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S19: of the world. And what I mean by that is
46:33
S19: that we all live in this Genesis three broken world.
46:38
S19: And again, call it what it is, man, you live
46:41
S19: long enough, bad things happen and bad things happen to you.
46:44
S19: And I grieve when I when I talk with people
46:47
S19: of things that other people have done to them or
46:50
S19: circumstances in life that they had nothing to do with,
46:52
S19: but it was done to them. And that can at times, uh,
46:57
S19: build up a callousness in our sensitivity to the working
46:59
S19: of the spirit. Number three, I would say this it's lethargy. Uh,
47:03
S19: that's a, that's a word that should challenge every one
47:05
S19: of us. You know, I realize that we live in
47:08
S19: a culture where we are tempted to simply just even
47:12
S19: entertain ourselves to death. You know, back on that that
47:15
S19: very first one that we talked about before the break
47:17
S19: of having a rekindled, you know, dependence upon the Lord
47:20
S19: or a rekindled devotion. I took a computer training class
47:25
S19: in a programming class years ago. Um, and I'll never
47:28
S19: forget walking into class and this incredible programmer analyst walked
47:32
S19: in and he said, I got one thing to tell you.
47:34
S19: Trash in, trash out. What comes in will go out.
47:37
S19: All these years later, I remember him saying that. And
47:39
S19: what I know is that sometimes we fill our lives
47:43
S19: up with the stuff of the world. Yeah. And it's
47:46
S19: going to work its way out. And so those are
47:48
S19: the three things I'd say.
47:49
S5: Mark, I gotta tell you, man, we had we did
47:51
S5: a little deal here years ago and, um, asked people,
47:55
S5: what's the one thing that's keeping them back from everything
47:58
S5: that God has for them? Yeah. The sedentary lifestyle or
48:02
S5: biblical word sluggard or not redeeming time. Oh my goodness.
48:06
S5: It was high on the list. Remember that Ali? Oh yeah.
48:09
S5: I mean, that was so high on the list. Speak
48:11
S5: to that for a second because we can do so
48:13
S5: well for 18 hours, but we can find two, three,
48:17
S5: four hours unredeemed. It's Satan's kitchen. He's cooking up junk
48:21
S5: for us, man. It's it's sometimes it's just literally let's
48:25
S5: use our hours. Well here. Right?
48:28
S19: I tell you what I tell people, you know, you
48:30
S19: got 24 hours in the day, seven days a week,
48:32
S19: and you're going to fill up your minutes, your waking
48:34
S19: hours doing something you are. So the question is, is
48:39
S19: have you clocked your day? I think that is an
48:42
S19: incredible discipline for believers to be in, to say, what
48:46
S19: am I actually doing? It is stunning how much time
48:49
S19: there is in a day and what we're doing with
48:53
S19: those minutes, and how to how to redeem those for
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S19: the glory of God and to again, just like eating well, right?
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S19: Putting good stuff in because that's going to make a
49:04
S19: difference in what goes out.
49:06
S2: Doctor Mark Yarborough guest right now, talk about a time
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S2: when you your own faith has dwindled.
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S19: Oh my goodness. How long do we have?
49:15
S5: I'm glad that the president of Dallas Theological Seminary is
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S5: willing to say that.
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S19: Well, I tell you, I tell a story in a book.
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S19: It's still a painful one in my life, you know?
49:25
S19: And this goes all the way back to high school.
49:26
S19: I grew up in absolutely wonderful home. I grew up
49:29
S19: in a home that it was mom and dad. Dad. Jesus.
49:31
S19: I mean, I was introduced to the Lord and early
49:33
S19: on and, and, uh, came to faith at a young age. And,
49:37
S19: and I wasn't rebelling from the Lord in high school,
49:40
S19: but I wasn't. Listen to this. I didn't have a vibrant,
49:42
S19: active faith. Does that make sense? Yes. It wasn't a rebellion.
49:46
S19: It just wasn't. I wasn't actively living it out. I
49:48
S19: had a lifelong friend that I just kind of grew
49:50
S19: up with, and he went down a bit of a
49:52
S19: different path and I could see it and I knew it,
49:54
S19: and I just left it alone. I didn't challenge him
49:57
S19: on it. And, um, it was a tragic thing that
50:00
S19: happened because he died in a drunk driving accident and
50:05
S19: he was the drunk driver. And to this day, I
50:08
S19: look back at that moment and thought, you know, I
50:11
S19: should have been more active. Now, this is not a
50:14
S19: guilt issue. That's not what I'm trying to go down
50:16
S19: the path here. But I did have this tugging in
50:19
S19: my heart of saying, man, Mark, did you lived it out?
50:21
S19: Had you challenged him to not go down that path?
50:25
S19: If I had had a more vibrant, active faith and
50:29
S19: the Lord used that in my life from that point
50:33
S19: forward to say, don't ever miss an opportunity to talk
50:37
S19: to someone about the Lord Jesus. It doesn't mean that
50:39
S19: you're going to see the results that you desire, but
50:42
S19: the Lord just simply calls us to be faithful. Right?
50:45
S19: And to have that vibrant faith that can be a
50:47
S19: connection for other people in some of their dark moments.
50:51
S19: So that's one story of a thousand that I could
50:54
S19: tell just like all of you.
50:55
S5: Yeah. Yeah. This is compelling stuff, bro. Okay. Really quick
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S5: hit here. Of the six essentials for reviving your faith,
51:04
S5: what's the most surprising one that people are going to
51:06
S5: find if they dig into this book.
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S19: I think the the very last one is what I
51:11
S19: call rekindled zeal, having a burden for the world. It
51:14
S19: is so easy for us to put the the hedges
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S19: up and we live in our own little worlds. And again.
51:22
S19: And part of that, we're responsible to do that, right.
51:25
S19: My neighbors are not your neighbors and vice versa. So
51:28
S19: I get that. But there is a call in Scripture
51:32
S19: of saying, lift your eyes up. Set your eyes on
51:35
S19: things above. And one of the heartbeats of God is
51:38
S19: for the nations. And something happens to us when we
51:43
S19: lift our head up and we see what is important
51:47
S19: to God, that God is more concerned about people than things.
51:52
S19: That God has a heartbeat for His Word to transform
51:57
S19: all people in all cultures, because he is the God
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S19: that is for all people and that he has provided
52:05
S19: a Savior that is for all people, and a spirit
52:09
S19: is available that he is available to indwell all people.
52:14
S19: He trains our lives. And so here we are saying,
52:17
S19: what happens when we do that is that it takes
52:21
S19: us out of our own world. And sometimes we can
52:23
S19: all have our own little pity party in our own
52:25
S19: little world. Right? And it, it gets our eyes focused
52:29
S19: on what God is concerned about. And so I think
52:32
S19: when we go in, in the book and we look
52:35
S19: at at Psalm 67, we see that God is having
52:39
S19: this call for the nations to be glad. Uh, it
52:42
S19: makes us realize the grace of God that has been
52:44
S19: poured out upon us. And if you are a grace recipient,
52:47
S19: you're called to be a grace giver.
52:49
S2: The book is called The Rekindled Heart six essentials for
52:52
S2: Reviving Your Faith by our guest, doctor, Mark Yarborough. Just
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S2: text heart to 805 557898. If you want the details,
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S2: text heart to 805 557898.