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But we are back to discuss a little bit about about the NBA
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playoffs and whatnot. We've had a little bit of
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shockers with LeBron and Luka Doncic's both getting the boot
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with the Lakers. As Karl Anthony Towns kind of
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symbolizes, it's it's his NBA. Now the Pacers of course get an
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upset over the Cavs and whatnot, but believe it or not, the NBA
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is not my strongest suit when it comes to talking about it.
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So I luckily have a partner in crime that's going to be joining
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me on the show today. This will be first time in a
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long time he's been on this show.
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Gentlemen by the name Jay, he's actually president and owner of
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the All Sports, All Plays Network, which I was a part of
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for a really long time. Still work with pretty closely
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with Jay. He was actually on last week.
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He kind of came on last second because we had a little bit of a
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ASAP reunion with with our show with Mike and whatnot.
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But we'll go ahead and bring him in because Jay is actually poor.
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Jay is a Suns fan and his sons had a rough season this season
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and whatnot. So we will bring him in and
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we'll talk some NBA, we'll talk some NFL draft and whatnot.
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The interview of the week is brought to you by Jersey Mike's,
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a sub above. What up Jay?
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How are you, good Sir? What's going on, Tony?
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How you doing man? Good.
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How are you? Wait a minute, wait a minute.
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I I hear I hype you up as a Suns fan.
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You got bulls head on. What?
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What did you change? Allegiances.
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I did not. I just had to show a little bit
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of love, Mike, you know? OK.
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I say you're gonna make Mike so happy.
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Although Mike has kind of questioned his his Bulls fan
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over here lately. You know he has, you know, hey,
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but you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm hoping, I'm hoping for both of
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our sake next year we can wear these hats and have playoff
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teams. Hopefully, hopefully they say
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before before we get too deep into the into the NBA playoffs
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and what not so far, 'cause they've been pretty interesting.
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I mean, we've only really had one series kind of cut it close
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with the Warriors and the Rockets and whatnot.
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Obviously that just took place a couple nights ago.
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Honestly, it looked like Steph Curry was shut down pretty,
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pretty effectively, but for whatever reason, the Rockets
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could not get it together And you know, Steph and the Warriors
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and what not show that they're still to do it.
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What, what was kind of your thoughts initially though about
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the Suns not making it 'cause I mean, realistically on paper,
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you got all the talent, you got KD, you got Devin Booker, you've
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got Bradley Beal. Like you got, you got 3 All
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Stars. Like yes.
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But you know, I think what a lot of people, a lot of NBA fans and
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myself included, cause again, I, I don't really watch the NBA.
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I'm looking at them like man, y'all probably don't have much
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depth left on that roster, which which to me, I feel like it's
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probably what hurts y'all more than anything.
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Yeah, you can have three stars, but it's hard to keep all of
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them out there for that long for like 82 games this season.
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Well, it's, it's one of those personnel things.
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It wasn't, it wasn't necessarily depth.
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It wasn't necessarily that we didn't have other players
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because we had Grayson Allen, we had Royce O'Neill, You have
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Titus Jones, Ryan Dunn, which was one of the breakout rookies
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of this year. You, you had also Ichero,
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another breakout dude, big man, we went and got a nickels for
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Nurkic. So it wasn't necessarily depth
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or anything like that. What it was was it's like this,
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you go in the kitchen, you go in the cupboard and you grab flour,
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you grab sugar, you grab hot sauce, you grab all these
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ingredients and throw it in a bucket.
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It's going to taste like shit because.
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You don't have the. Right personnel.
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I thought you're making, like, a marinade.
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I was like, OK, sugar, a little bit of sweetness, hot sauce.
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Like, OK, You doing like, some type of breading?
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Like, OK, OK. I mean, you can make it work.
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What? You try to go after right, you
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know, and I, I, I think that was more of it.
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It was the, it was the wrong ingredients in the pot together
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for what we were trying to do and see.
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And if you look at the two years, I'm gonna put it in the
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in the the last two year window. Fuck it, we'll go 3.
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You went from Frank Vogel, who just came out of winning the NBA
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championship. Defensive minded wasn't doing
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much on the offensive end. They were upset about that.
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We get rid of him, we come in. I forgot who we who was our one
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last year we had they. Say it was it was another big
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name. It wasn't.
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Fuck, why can't I get his name off the top of my head?
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I'm going to have to look it up, damn it.
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Phoenix coaches Monty Williams. Monty was before Frank.
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I thought we had one more after Frank, before Mike Bullhouser.
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Bullhouser. But the point is then you bring
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in Mike, who if you, if you ask me before we signed him, I'm
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like, why are we bringing in Mike?
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We get rid of Frank, who's a defensive minded coach.
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And the reason why we get rid of Frank is because we weren't
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utilizing Kevin Durant to his full potential in the offense.
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We bring in Buttho Butthouser. And let's be honest with
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Giannis. He didn't fucking have to do
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much on the offense in excuse my French.
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He let he he let them go out there.
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And then you had Drew Holiday, who's on the floor coach.
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You got Drew and you got Giannis on the offensive end.
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So you're not doing much coaching.
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The only thing you're doing is making defensive adjustments.
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Right. So you bring him in and and
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again you're stuck in the same situation.
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So you had Bonnie, you had Frank, then you had Mike
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Budenholzer. So your money, Frank, and then
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Mike. Yeah, Yep.
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OK, so money, Frank and Mike. So yeah.
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And, and out of those three, money would have probably been
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the best for offensively so. And he'd been there for a while,
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too. And I think a lot of that was
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just Ishvia coming in and saying I want out with the old and with
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the new. Right, right.
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Well, that's kind of the crazy part too 'cause you look at it
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and again, I'm looking at it from kind of an outside
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perspective. And I would say this for really
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any sport, not even just basketball.
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Like Monty was there from 2019 to 2023.
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Like you gave him enough time. Like, OK, I can, I can build a
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culture. I can pick the guys that I want.
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I can get guys in the locker room that I feel can be bought
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into the system and he can actually build something while
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he's there. To me, when I when I heard about
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the Frank Vogelhire, I was like, OK, you got to think about where
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Frank really got like his money from.
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Like you got you got LeBron when it was still, you know, LeBron
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was still kind of at, I'm not going to say the peak of his
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career, but kind of towards the end of his prime, like he still
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had a lot in him. You get AD on top of it, which
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was a huge blockbuster deal. And then you have just enough
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other pieces there on that rock that Lakers roster be able to
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make it work. Plus, you know, the whole COVID
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thing, which is, you know, obviously a lot of people put
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the asterisk on it because they got the break and then they came
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back, but they came back just as hot as they did when they left.
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So, you know, he kind of gets that.
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He gets his championship. And then after that, everything
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goes to crap for the Lakers because eventually, like every
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team that it happens to you when you go all in, eventually it's
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going to come. You're going to have to pay dues
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of now you don't have the depth that you have.
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You don't have the draft picks, you don't have the salary cap.
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You're not able to maneuver stuff like you did.
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You got your ring, which is what you wanted, which is the goal.
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But now you now it's come up. And so as far as what you know,
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what you have to owe. So to me is like, I get it.
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He's a championship winning head coach.
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He knows how to do it. It's also one of those it's kind
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of like Mike McCarthy with the whole Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay
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situation. It's hard for you to not be
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successful when you have a quarterback of that talent in
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your prime. Look at Bill Belichick with Tom
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Brady. Bill hasn't been the same coach.
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He wasn't that type of coach, you know, pre Tom Brady.
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He hasn't been that coach post Tom Brady.
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So I mean that that one player. And for Frank's, you know,
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Frank's instance, it's you know, LeBron, he comes to Arizona.
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I'm not saying KD can't be that guy, but to me, KD is one of
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those. You look at how he won his
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championship with the Warriors, like the Warriors already had
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their system set and locked in. And I think for even for KD and
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I think for a lot of these players, it's hard for you to
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build that roster of, OK, this guy is talented.
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And like you said, it's a personnel match up.
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You can put, like you said, for the kitchen, you can put flour,
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you can put hot sauce, you can put all this stuff.
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And on paper it's like, OK, this should work until you do it.
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And it's like, wait a minute, I don't care how this guy work.
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I don't like how this guy works. This guy doesn't do stuff the
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way that I'd want him to. And, and again, when you have 3
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superstar caliber guys, it's let's be realistic.
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You take you separate all three of those guys, all three of them
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are probably going to be the ones on a roster somewhere.
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Like to to me. You, you see, you're hitting all
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the nails in the coffin. The thing that I think that we
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we missed the boat on as as the Suns with the roster was when
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you look at the like championship teams or even even
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right now currently in the playoffs, you look at you look
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at the Nuggets, the Nuggets have a superb superstar in Jokic.
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Yep. But they have a very, very good
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floor general in Jamal Murray. You look at La when they won,
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you had that that super low pros presence on on on both sides of
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the ball with Anthony Davis. But again, you had a floor
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general with a great ball handling mine in LeBron James.
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What the Sun's issue was is our superstars that we picked up at
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all very similar styles of play. Right.
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So who's the leader in that case?
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Yeah. See if you look at.
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Sorry, I was saying it and it can't be a leadership by like
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committee thing too 'cause then that cause again, that's where
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it gets that's where it gets weird because OK, who do we who
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do we follow if someone tells me to do something like if.
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Wasn't that Lebron's and Kyrie's issue in Cleveland?
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Yeah. Who's supposed to take the last
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shot? Who's supposed to?
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And that ended up dividing them. Imagine how many how many
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freaking NBA championships they could have won.
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Yeah, 100%. Think about how differently the
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the whole entire future and makeup of Cleveland would have
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been had they had they been able to get along a lot better.
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I mean, you look at Boston. Boston was at a pivotal, pivotal
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point about four or five years ago with the whole Jaylen Brown
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and Tatum thing, and it got silenced because they accepted
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Tatum as the number one. Yep.
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So even. Though even though it's funny,
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when they won their championship last year you could honestly
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argue Jaylen Brown was more the leader Jason Tatum was.
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But they were able to. So like New York right now, New
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York right now is a very good example of how to utilize stars.
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Yeah. They they went out and got Karl
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Anthony on a team that was pretty well-rounded.
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So now they say, all right, Jalen, you're probably the one
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of the best closers in the game. We want you to do that.
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Yeah. Don't worry about everything
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else. Let let OG, let Miles, let Carl,
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let let these other guys, Josh Hart, let these other guys eat.
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Have a couple points here and there.
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Stay in the game, keep your rhythm going.
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When it's fourth quarter, you get the.
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Ball right? And, and, and, and that's a way
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to see we had to figure out and there was no coaching on
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offense. There was no coaching on offense
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these last two years that I see. Right.
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You know, we would have. It should have been.
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Hey, Booker Carrier score 30 points through 3/4.
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Kevin Durant close score 20 points in the fourth.
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Yeah, there we go. Now, Bradley Bill's not an
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issue. Right.
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No, I, I definitely get it. We are going to take a real
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quick commercial break when we come back.
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We'll we'll, we'll actually dive deeper into the NBA playoffs as
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as Jay was talking about. We'll dive in, see, see what
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Jay's thoughts is as far as the most interesting ones.
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We've had a little bit of upsets and surprises so far within the
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first round of the semi finals as we move on to the conference
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finals and whatnot. But we'll take a quick
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Give Veterans Voice back with Jay to talk a little bit about
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the NBA playoffs and whatnot. So Jay, we like I said, we had a
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little bit of some upsets and whatnot.
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Obviously, the Grizzlies got absolutely swept by the Thunder.
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Surprisingly enough, the Nuggets and the Clippers actually went
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down to a pretty interesting series.
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Nuggets end up pulling away with a win on that one.
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The Timberwolves and Ant Man absolutely dominate LeBron and
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Luca, which is probably the most surprising things that they not
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only won, they dominated in their wins against them.
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And obviously the Rockets and Warriors came down to a four
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three stretch. The warriors kind of proving
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that that playoff experience is still helping them.
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But even even the last couple days we've had a lot of upsets.
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You know, the the Nuggets end up actually getting a win over the
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Thunder in OK C The Pacers end up stealing a win against the
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Cavaliers and the Knicks, probably the biggest surprise,
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get a win over the Boston Celtics.
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And then tonight we have the Timberwolves and the Warriors
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playing as well as the Cavaliers and Pacers will play Game 2.
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So we get the first game of that Timberwolves and Warriors
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series. Jay, what?
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What's probably been the biggest surprise to you so far out of
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this? The timber?
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Are you talking about just the Timberwolves warrior situation?
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Now the the whole the whole thing.
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If it can, it could be either one.
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You know, even though the Clippers lost, the Clippers
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played extremely well. Extremely well, to the point
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that Denver is battle tested after that first round.
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I think out of all of them, they're probably the most battle
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tested. I don't.
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I don't. I think Golden State.
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Golden State being a 7 is crazy. That's crazy.
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Well, it's even crazier the fact that the like the two, at least
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in the West, you've got the one seed and the four seed and the
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Thunder and Nuggets playing, which it's like, OK, that that's
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you know, a little bit to be expected.
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The fact that on the other end you have the 6th and the 7th
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seed playing each other, in the next one the second and the
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third seed are both eliminated. It is also kind of crazy to me
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because it's like wait a minute, the the 2 lower seeds in the
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West are doing better than than the two higher, You know, two of
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the higher seeds. Well, I was talking about this
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all year and and This is why I wasn't surprised the Suns didn't
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make the play offs. The West was separated by like 2
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games. The whole final stretch, the
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whole final stretch. And let's look at the, if you
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look at the one through 8 and you say, well, what changed at
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the end? The Lakers got Luca, they moved
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up to third. Is that a true 3rd place?
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I don't think so. You just now you 'cause you got
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to think of it two different ways.
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Yeah, they got to become familiar with each other.
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But we're talking about Luka Donkic and we're talking about
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LeBron James. Great.
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They're going to figure it out pretty quick even if they're not
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used to each other. But on the other end, to play
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defense on Luka and LeBron, it's going to take you a lot longer
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to figure that out than it is for them to figure out how to
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score. So you're going to win a couple
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of extra games there that you may have not won if there was
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already tape and familiarity on the defenders end.
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So I don't believe that as a true 3rd place team, I think
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they would have, they should be like 6 or 7.
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So that makes sense. The Warriors, the Warriors fell
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off that that three weeks before they made that Jimmy Butler
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trade. It was rough for them rough.
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And then the Jimmy Butler came and they had a a decent ending
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which kept them in there. But so, I don't know, man, I
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think it it it's going to backfire for the teams like the
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Thunder and we're already seeing it backfired for the Lakers.
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Yeah, say for for you, and I mean, I know it's been a topic
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for probably years now, ever since honestly, probably ever
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since they won that last championship.
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Do you think after this season, depending on if the Warriors can
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make, I'm not going to say a deeper playoff run, but at least
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keep the series close with the Timberwolves.
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Say they, you know, say they take it to a Game 7 or say, you
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know, it's like a, you know, they start down to, but then
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they fight back 2 and then maybe they, they end up losing it, you
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know, 4-2. If they if they keep it close,
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do you think that will officially mark the end of the
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dynasty? Because I mean, they, they
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already got rid of Clay. You know, Clay's gone.
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You still got Steph and you still got Draymond.
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Draymond's had issues for forever, but it seems like it's
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really been highlighted the last, what, three years or so.
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And then, you know, Jimmy Butler, the whole drama with
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that. He's getting older.
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He'd still perform really well, but he's getting older.
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And at what point does Jimmy say, OK, now I, you know, now I
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won at a Golden State, you know, do you, do you think that
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dynasty in the Warriors time is is starting to come to an end?
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No, no, I think they, I think they extended their window an
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extra two to three years by picking up Jimmy Butler.
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I think that Clay was Clay's on the down downhill and Jimmy is
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still kind of right here. I don't think he's hit his
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decline yet and that has a lot to do with with playoff Jimmy
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and his heart. Any time that you can still up
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your performance, this count this this many levels just
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because it's playoff time, right, bro?
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So now see, the the thing about Golden State, and this is
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something that a lot of these other teams gotta look at Golden
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State drafts really fucking well.
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Yeah, really freaking well, bro, really well.
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So they didn't picked up that the big man, you know, they
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didn't picked up. Oh, boy.
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Nick, what's his name? The shooter.
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Aw, forget his name. What's his name?
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So I'm trying to pull it up. My Internet just hates me.
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I want to pull. I got to pull it up too, but
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Psis, Psowski, Polski, Pulaski, he's really good.
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Let. Me say, of course about the time
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I of course about the time I pull it up on my it comes up.
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Yeah, it'll, it'll come up on my computer.
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So Brandon Pudzinski, he's really good.
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You still got Moses Moody. You know, Trace Jackson Davis,
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he's really good. If I say I remember watching him
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IU, not last year but year before last, he was.
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He was solid for IU. He helped keep them, keep them
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in contention for a long time. A long time, you know, And then
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you picked up Buddy Hill. You still got Kamung Kaminga, so
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you got guys that cause the thing about Steph, unlike
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LeBron, unlike some of the other guys, Kevin, the Steph is a
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shooter shooter. Steph doesn't need to drive to
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the hole if you don't want to. Steph doesn't and he can dribble
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really well. So Steph could still play for
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another five years, right, If you really want to put it down.
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And then with guys like Kaminga and Moody and, you know, Jackson
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Davis, these youngsters, Buddy Hill's still there.
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So their window can kind of linger for another three, I
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think 3 solid years if you keep Jimmy there.
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And Draymond's a question mark. Yeah, as I say, I, I feel like
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out of the out of the big three that are there, I to me, I feel
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like, I feel like Draymond's the next to go.
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Like to me, I feel like because Steph has been there for so
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long, because Steph has been there with them through the good
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times, through the bad, through all of it.
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It to me, it's kind of Steph's decision when he wants to leave.
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I feel like and I, yeah, and I don't, I don't see Steph leaving
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for anything. I mean, you realistically, you
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look at it, Steph's got four rings.
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You know, he's he's tied with LeBron.
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You know, he's a part of one of the one of the greatest
26:03
dynasties we've seen as far as the NBA goes.
26:05
He's he's beaten LeBron multiple times head to head.
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So he's got that over him when it comes to like championships
26:12
and when it matters most. So really for Steph, not a whole
26:15
lot more you have to do for your, you know, your legacy or
26:17
your career as far as cementing that you're one of the best
26:21
players or one of the best warriors.
26:22
And like you said, when it comes to perimeter shooting, you know
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if you need a three shot at the last part of the game to
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potentially win it, Steph 9 times out of 10 is probably
26:31
going to be the man to go do it. The only thing that I could see
26:38
is if Steph wanted to beat him in longevity.
26:43
Oh, OK, because I mean, he could still do that with Golden State.
26:49
Yeah, no, because bro, Steph is not LeBron.
26:54
He's not Kobe, he's not Jordan, he's not Shaq.
26:58
None of the he's not going to have the wear and tear on his
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knees, his back and he is as these other guys that we just
27:06
talked about. I mean, you think about Vince
27:08
Carter. Vince Carter had he he went
27:11
through a time period of some decent sized or some real
27:15
injuries. Hey, hey, I appreciate I.
27:21
Appreciate that, MJ Yeah, MJ. Petition.
27:25
Yeah, MMJ knows me because I I typically pull all the stats out
27:29
whenever it comes, like the NFL and in my in my takes and
27:33
whatnot. I appreciate that.
27:34
MJ is actually a huge Penn State fan.
27:36
So usually she comments saying the whole we are but I
27:40
appreciate MJ tuning in. Real quick MJ, was Abdul Carter
27:44
justified for asking for those two retired numbers?
27:48
I know he'd asked for Lawrence Taylor's 50, which I'm going to
27:51
be honest, don't know if you were able to ask Lt. for the
27:55
number. Phil Sims.
27:57
Phil Sims. I'm like, OK, you could maybe
28:00
ask Phil now. And and his defense.
28:03
Phil did say yes. Phil's family outvoted him and
28:07
said no. To in the defense of asking for
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for for Phil's. So you think he was justified?
28:20
OK, OK. In the defense of asking for
28:23
Phil's, not many people know who Phil is, and I feel bad for Phil
28:27
because he's a legend. Well, it's really bad.
28:29
I think. I think it's hurts too, because
28:31
he's no longer like the the color commentator where Tony
28:35
Romo is because it hit that was him and Jim Nance forever.
28:38
And then I remember, I remember, you know, he he got in some
28:41
trouble. He said something I can't
28:42
remember what he said that kind of got him in trouble with CBS.
28:45
And so they were like, it's time for you to move in studio,
28:47
buddy. Here's here's Tony Romo and and
28:51
she does have a point. If you don't ask, you never
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know. I I was, I was always raised a
28:56
closed mouth doesn't get dunked. I mean it it it, it done hurt to
29:00
ask just to see. I just stated Lawrence Taylor
29:04
when I was a little. Yeah, like I said, LTI don't
29:07
know about Lt. You can't you can't be you can't
29:10
be asking one of the greatest, one of the greatest of all time
29:13
when it comes to, you know, not just Giants, but NFL history be
29:17
like, hey, brother, can you you under?
29:18
Time come up off that for me. Like, like, look, man, if if
29:23
you're four years in, if you're in your first part of the
29:26
contract and you just absolutely dominate, like you're, you know,
29:30
sack leader four years in a row, then you can go to Lt. and be
29:33
like, hey, man, I'm a, I'm producing what he should have.
29:36
Done what he should have done, was played, paid homage and took
29:40
65. Right, right.
29:43
I don't. I don't know if I've ever seen
29:45
linebacker wear 65 to be honest with you.
29:47
But hey, I mean, cause 'cause that's what you're saying.
29:51
You're saying that you're about to be so so.
29:56
Great. Yeah, so good not.
29:58
Good, not good 'cause you asked Lt. to on retire.
30:02
You're about to be so great that this number is gonna be iconic
30:08
again. That's what you're saying.
30:10
Yeah, here. So here's the other thing I
30:12
would say too, because I remember this comment has been
30:16
brought up whenever I've seen a lot of people when they talk
30:18
about when you do like numbers one through 100 as far as like
30:23
any sports goes, like who do you think of when you see this
30:26
number? Like whenever you see the number
30:27
one, like who do you think of? Is it, you know, Warren Moon?
30:30
If you see #2 do you think of yo, Matt Ryan, three Russ for
30:35
Brett Favre, you know, all you know, if you think of #6 you
30:37
know, do you think of LeBron James or like he wears 23?
30:40
Well, the most famous 23 most people are probably going to
30:43
know is Michael Jordan. Like depending on like, so to
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me, if I'm Abdul, make it like, I get it. 11 was your number in
30:50
college. Yeah, maybe you want to pay
30:52
homage to Lt. Maybe you were 65.
30:55
Like find your own number and become you.
30:58
Like you got to think about it. Like when Lt. got 56, it was
31:01
like, OK, this is my number. Like I'm just going to do what I
31:03
got to do with it. Like, like make yourself like
31:05
make your own name. Don't don't try to piggyback off
31:08
of somebody else's success like because if you were 56 and then
31:11
you're a bust one, that's disrespectful to Lt.
31:15
'cause it's like, all right, you kind of ruined L TS legacy of
31:17
what he did to build that number up.
31:19
And again, two, unless you truly believe in yourself that much,
31:24
which I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to shame on
31:27
you if you do, But you got to look at a lot of the guys
31:30
nowadays. How many times are we seeing
31:32
records broken from guys that, you know, played for years or
31:36
played for a long time now, like Tom Brady did it, Drew Brees did
31:41
it, Peyton Manning did it. But you look at how long they
31:43
did it, you look at the positions that they played when
31:45
they did it, like they played for, you know, 20 plus years.
31:48
They're very well protected. How many defensive guys are we
31:51
seeing break? You know, you know, you know,
31:53
statistics and stats, records and whatnot?
31:56
Not a whole lot. We're.
31:57
We're seeing them just not in the same frequent, like not as
32:01
frequent as in and there's not, it's not like one year we see
32:04
three players break, break the sack record.
32:06
I mean, that's not going to happen.
32:08
Now, here's the other thing to look at though, Tony.
32:13
Why? You're kidding.
32:15
You came from Penn, you're wearing 11.
32:20
Another guy just came from Penn. He's wearing 11.
32:24
Also Whirlon? Yep.
32:26
Why do you want that shadow? Right.
32:32
You already have it. Yeah, why would you want to be
32:34
in someone else's shadow of, you know, like, like that's why I
32:37
said, you know, make, make your own name for yourself.
32:40
Don't don't worry about, you know, Oh well, I want to be 56
32:44
and no, make, make your own name, man.
32:46
Don't, don't try to do that for for someone else.
32:49
But but that's just me. But real quick for last topic
32:53
before we, before we get out of here, like I mentioned, so Jay
32:56
is from and lives in Arizona. So he's not only a Phoenix Suns
32:59
fan, he's a Diamondbacks fan, but he's also a Cardinals fan.
33:04
And the Cardinals kind of had an interesting draft.
33:06
Even when I did my my kind of pre draft show, I was like, I
33:10
really don't know what the Cardinals need.
33:11
It was like, I feel like the Cardinals kind of need a lot,
33:13
but I also kind of feel like they they did supplement quite a
33:16
bit. You know, they got Hassan
33:17
Reddick in free agency and whatnot.
33:20
They draft Walter Nolan. The two other names that to me
33:24
really stood out in their draft that I feel they got absolute
33:27
steals on. They got Will Johnson in the
33:29
second round and then they got Denzel Burke the other corner
33:33
out of Ohio State. And I watched, I remember
33:35
watching both of these guys, both at Michigan and Ohio State,
33:38
both, I feel like those two guys are steals.
33:41
Now. According to ESPN, the the
33:44
Cardinals had five needs that they needed to address and they
33:47
addressed 4 of them in the draft.
33:49
They got the edge rusher, they got Jordan Birch out of Oregon,
33:51
they got the quarterbacks, you know, the two that I mentioned,
33:54
Will Johnson and Denzel Burke. They got a guard, they got
33:57
Hayden Connor out of Texas and then they got Walter Nolan, the
33:59
defensive tackle out of Ole Miss.
34:02
The thing that they says that they need, that they didn't
34:05
necessarily get was a wide receiver.
34:07
And I'm not going to necessarily disagree because I do feel like
34:10
Marvin Harrison Junior does need some help because it's it's hard
34:14
to be like the number one guy in a spot because you know you're
34:18
going to get double teamed every single time and you're going to
34:22
get covered. And he did have a pretty good
34:24
year last year. I felt like he's a little bit
34:25
under the radar as compared to like neighbors Thomas, a lot of
34:30
the big guys coming out of LSU. But Jay, what would you like if
34:33
you had to give the Cardinals like a letter grade like a
34:36
through F? What would you kind of give them
34:38
on their draft as far as what they've done?
34:40
I. Give them a plus and I wouldn't
34:43
say that just to the Cardinals fans.
34:45
It's been a long time since you give, hearing me give some
34:47
grades like that to the Cardinals.
34:51
Listen, there's a few things here.
34:54
You can't keep doing the same thing over and over again and,
34:59
and, and and not grow. Obviously if you keep doing the
35:05
same thing, you're not growing anywhere 'cause you keep
35:07
repeating yourself. We went out and got a first
35:10
round draft pick, wide receiver for, you know what I mean?
35:13
One of the best, supposed to be a generational player.
35:17
You know, prestige pedigrees there.
35:19
All that we got Wilson a year 2 before we got dork still there.
35:30
We can't, we couldn't come back out and draft another high wide
35:34
receiver. Right.
35:36
And I'm not saying do it in the first round.
35:37
I was just saying maybe like the maybe like fourth or fifth
35:40
round, like a guy just to kind of add depth that maybe like
35:43
maybe could be like work his way up to like a two or three
35:47
because you've already got your one.
35:48
Like you don't need another one like you.
35:50
You kind of need the the depth behind that though.
35:52
Like you need a guy that can be productive but isn't going to
35:55
try to over shadow Marvin. Well, and, and that's just the
35:59
thing there. I'm glad we win defense and
36:05
that's why I give them a plus because if you look at our games
36:09
last year, the games that we lost, we lost some of the
36:11
defensive end, not the offensive end.
36:13
We have one of the better running games in the in the
36:15
league. Once we get up, we should be
36:18
able to run the ball out. There was too many times last
36:20
year we went up two scores and lost the game.
36:24
So and then look at it, you got Darian Robinson, who was our
36:28
first pick last year. He ends up getting injured,
36:32
doesn't play but two games the whole season.
36:35
You go out and get Josh wet from on the edge.
36:40
You bring back Kalias Campbell, you you got Nichols, Bilal
36:45
Nichols, who played pretty decent last year.
36:48
You got steals who looked really good as a youngster last year.
36:52
So now you go out and get who is giving you signs of maybe a
36:58
Warren Sapp, a young Kalias or Darnell Dockett really quick and
37:02
get to the get to the quarterback plug the run as
37:05
well. And then you let them sit behind
37:08
Kalias Campbell and learn. Then like you mentioned, you got
37:13
the, you got the two late picks, one of them Ohio State.
37:17
So you got to you got that championship pedigree there.
37:20
Will Johnson coming from Michigan, which should have been
37:23
a top three, top five pick if he hadn't got injured at the end of
37:26
the year. You add that depth at A at a
37:28
corner position that we really, really, really needed help in.
37:32
So we added enough tools. We got players coming back.
37:37
They were injured. I'm glad we went defense.
37:41
And John Jonathan Cannon is a defensive minded coach, so why
37:46
not give him all the weapons he needs to be successful on the on
37:49
the side of the ball that he's the guru in?
37:52
Yeah, most definitely. But no, I agree they, they got 2
37:55
championship caliber quarterbacks 'cause I mean, you
37:57
know, Will Johnson won it with Michigan the year before and
38:00
Denzel Burke with that last year.
38:02
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